WEBVTT - JUST IN:  Parole DENIED for Erik Menendez

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is late on Thursday, August twenty second,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have just gotten word that parole has been

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<v Speaker 1>denied for Eric Menindez. Welcome to this episode of Amy

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<v Speaker 1>and TJ. An episode being recorded much later than anticipated

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<v Speaker 1>because as I record this, it is past ten o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>on the East coast, it is past eight o'clock on

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<v Speaker 1>the West coast, And for the past ten hours, the

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<v Speaker 1>parole board hearing for Eric Menindez has been taking place.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a much longer duration than most were anticipating,

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<v Speaker 1>thought this might go three hours or so. It has

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<v Speaker 1>been a long, long day and we're just getting word

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<v Speaker 1>before I started recording here, folks that yes, Eric Menindez,

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<v Speaker 1>all that momentum, all the publicity, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people thought this was going to be it. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Menindez is not going to be getting out of prison,

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<v Speaker 1>at least through the parole system, at least through that

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<v Speaker 1>metthad that for now, because parole has been denied. The

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<v Speaker 1>parole Board says he can come back and it's eligible

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<v Speaker 1>to go before the parole board again in three years.

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<v Speaker 1>But as of now, Eric Menendez is going to stay

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<v Speaker 1>in prison. His brother lyle is up with his parole

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<v Speaker 1>board hearing tomorrow. So what does this mean for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it an automatic? Not necessarily. Just because his brother

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<v Speaker 1>was denied, it doesn't mean that Lyle will be denied.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll explain that in a second. But this parole board

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<v Speaker 1>hearing happened today at eleven thirty am Eastern time, eight

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<v Speaker 1>thirty local out there from the prison in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 1>He was doing it from his San Diego prison. This

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<v Speaker 1>was video conference. He wasn't taken into a courtroom, so

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<v Speaker 1>this was all done via video conference. Now why was

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<v Speaker 1>he even up for parole now? This is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time he has ever been eligible. This is his first

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<v Speaker 1>shot up at this. Well, he's eligible now because after

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<v Speaker 1>they were convicted, he and his brother were convicted of

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<v Speaker 1>killing their parents. They got life in prison without the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of parole. But just this summer, at the start

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<v Speaker 1>of the summer, they were reclassified and they were resentenced,

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<v Speaker 1>i should say, and they were eligible for parole immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why we ended up here. The decision now

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<v Speaker 1>that this board has made is that Eric is not

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<v Speaker 1>suitable to be released. They are saying he is enough

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<v Speaker 1>of a risk that he should be denied bail. Right

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<v Speaker 1>now now. Because of the system and the rules and

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<v Speaker 1>the laws out there in California, we had no access today,

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<v Speaker 1>no video, no audio to this parole board hearing. This

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the same as a court hearing. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>judge in there and lawyers on both sides and people

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at a table. It's not that kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 1>This is actually supposed to be kind of a private event.

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<v Speaker 1>This is supposed to be a very a private and

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<v Speaker 1>confidential happening here a parole board hearing, so it does

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<v Speaker 1>not the same rules that the whole public gets access.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happened and instead this time is that one

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<v Speaker 1>pool reporter was assigned I believe it was from the

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<v Speaker 1>La Times. He was the only person who was in

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<v Speaker 1>there and able to watch, but he wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 1>disseminate that information in real time because there are rules

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<v Speaker 1>about that information going out before the parole board has

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<v Speaker 1>actually made their decision. So so many people, if you've

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<v Speaker 1>kept up on social media, maybe you were following this

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<v Speaker 1>story today as well. Everybody seemed to be doing the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, hitting refresh, refresh, refresh, looking for some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of update of any kind, and it just did not

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<v Speaker 1>come because it could not come the rules did not allow.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've all been standing by and we all got

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<v Speaker 1>the information at the same time just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>ago that yes, the board has denied, denied, denied Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Mendez the opportunity now to get out on parole. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a long hearing in part because so many people,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the reporter inside, showed up to speak on

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Menendez's behalf. By this reporter's count, at least eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>people family friends were there to speak on his behalfs

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<v Speaker 1>that there were a lot of tears during the video

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<v Speaker 1>conference today, a lot of tears during the hearing, and

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<v Speaker 1>the family even made a plea yes about the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>I say the boys, they were twenty one and eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>they're fifty seven and fifty four now. But saying that

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<v Speaker 1>the Eric and Lyle, they've been remorseful, they've admitted what

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<v Speaker 1>they've done, they've been rehabilitated, they plan on doing good

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<v Speaker 1>work and continuing some of their work when they get

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<v Speaker 1>out of prison. They made this claim, but they also said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we have been waiting thirty years for them to come

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<v Speaker 1>home or hoping for them to come home. We have

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<v Speaker 1>forgiven them and the family is trying to move on.

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<v Speaker 1>They even made an argument that one of the relatives

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<v Speaker 1>that was there has staged four cancer and argued that

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<v Speaker 1>they might die before Eric and Lyle get out, And

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<v Speaker 1>that was a part of the argument that some people

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<v Speaker 1>in the family were making, but the board seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be vrding to the reporter in the room, really really

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<v Speaker 1>really interested and hung up on a few issues with Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>because Eric had some rules violations while he's been in

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<v Speaker 1>prison over the past thirty years. And the reason that's

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<v Speaker 1>key is because they are making a decision to put

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<v Speaker 1>you back out into society. You are in prison because

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<v Speaker 1>you broke rules, you did something wrong. If we put

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<v Speaker 1>you back out there, can you still follow the rules?

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<v Speaker 1>And the only indication we have of whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>you can is what you've been doing the past thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years in prison. And he has been violating rules at times. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing necessarily so outlandish, but some of these instances were

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<v Speaker 1>it was caught with a cell phone on occasions that

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<v Speaker 1>is a major no no in prison. I suppo to

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<v Speaker 1>have a cell phone. He was caught with a cell phone,

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<v Speaker 1>also allegedly caught with drugs, also allegedly helped a gang

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<v Speaker 1>in a tax scheme of some kind. Also, he did

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of instances of violence in prison. I

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<v Speaker 1>think one was in the night. If I believe, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have the day's right, so let me not speculate.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's been at least a decade, and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>two decades that one of them allegedly happened. So the

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<v Speaker 1>parole board is really hung up and looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>guy who is convicted and has admitted to a very,

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<v Speaker 1>very heinous crime. Do we want to let him back out?

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<v Speaker 1>This wasn't a one off. This is Yes, it's over

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years, and I guess on average that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot over thirty years, but it was enough. And according

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<v Speaker 1>to the reporter who was listening that they were really

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<v Speaker 1>really hung up on several of those and asked him

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<v Speaker 1>about them in depth. The other thing, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of legal experts talked about this the mom. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all here because Eric and Lyle killed their parents.

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<v Speaker 1>They killed their dad, who they accused of molesting them.

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<v Speaker 1>But the board was hung up on or certainly questioned

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<v Speaker 1>them about why you had to kill the mom. You

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<v Speaker 1>all will remember this case, remember it well. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>these details and this it really was. It was a sensation,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a media sensation. And still the fascination continues

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<v Speaker 1>with this case. There have been documentaries of course that

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<v Speaker 1>hit Netflix series last year. There's just this fascination. But

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<v Speaker 1>folks were always wondering in nineteen eighty nine, you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>your dad was the one who was molesting you, Who

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<v Speaker 1>was the threat? Why did you have to kill the mom?

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't just an instant death for the mom,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, there was some reloading involved in the crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Details are just atrocious, they absolutely are. So the argument

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<v Speaker 1>that was made over the years that the Meninda's brother's

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<v Speaker 1>maid was that this was done in self defense. They

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<v Speaker 1>were in fear of their stepfather who was doing the harassing.

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<v Speaker 1>They were fear in fear of their lives and fear

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<v Speaker 1>of the harassment and the harasser. So why did you

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<v Speaker 1>have to kill the mom? It was unnecessary. She wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a threat, She wasn't an imminent threat of any kind.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reporter in the room said one of the

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<v Speaker 1>board members specifically asked why did you shoot her? And

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<v Speaker 1>his answer were simply a wish he hadn't done it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they have said that they have admitted. But

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<v Speaker 1>the board went through and so much was expected that

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<v Speaker 1>they would go through what happened over the past thirty years,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of and not necessarily go through it and

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to reltigate and relive the entire crime, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to look at how you behaved over

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<v Speaker 1>the past thirty years. But it was interesting to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from the reporter that they did go back. They did

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<v Speaker 1>have questions still about the crime, why you did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was something that they brought up, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were hung up on why did you have to kill

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<v Speaker 1>your mom? And I heard some legal experts talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that before that this could be a challenge, like you

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<v Speaker 1>want to make the argument that the guy was doing

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<v Speaker 1>this to you, your dad was doing this, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was the imminent threat, then why did you have to

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<v Speaker 1>kill mom? And also this idea of the imminent threat

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<v Speaker 1>did you have to shoot them? Right? There was an

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<v Speaker 1>imminent threat in that moment, an imminent threat of something

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<v Speaker 1>happening that night. You had options. Now, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people will tell you these two are these young men

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<v Speaker 1>were abuse victims, and there's so much more we've learned

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<v Speaker 1>over the past couple of decades and even years about

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<v Speaker 1>what goes into and what that kind of abuse can

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<v Speaker 1>do to a person, So don't want to downplay that.

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<v Speaker 1>But still the argument was made that the brothers may

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<v Speaker 1>have had options, so why do this if they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have some other motive. Obviously, the argument has always been

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<v Speaker 1>made because they went on that spending spree afterwards that

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<v Speaker 1>you hear so much about spending tens of and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of dollars of their parents money and

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<v Speaker 1>the immediate aftermath of the deaths, so that continues to

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<v Speaker 1>be brought up. But the board was very interested, very

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<v Speaker 1>interested in that particular thing. Why why did you have

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<v Speaker 1>to kill your mom? Now, the family did express that

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<v Speaker 1>they were disappointed in what happened today, disappointed that they

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<v Speaker 1>are not that he wasn't granted parole. They did put

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<v Speaker 1>out a statement saying, while we respect the decision, today's

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<v Speaker 1>outcome was of course disappointing and not what we hoped for.

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<v Speaker 1>But our belief in Eric remains unwavering, and we know

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<v Speaker 1>he will take the board's recommendation in stride. His remorse,

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<v Speaker 1>growth and the positive impact he's had on others speak

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves. We will continue to stand by him and

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<v Speaker 1>hold to the hope he is able to return home soon. Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>We turn our attention to Lyle's hearing, and while it

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<v Speaker 1>is undoubtedly difficult, we remain cautiously optimistic and hopeful that

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<v Speaker 1>the Commissioner will see in Lyle what so many others have,

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<v Speaker 1>a man who is taken responsibility, transformed his life and

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<v Speaker 1>is ready to come home again. That's the statement from

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<v Speaker 1>the family, And I give you idea of this board

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<v Speaker 1>hearing here. They're actually going to have different board members

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<v Speaker 1>for Lyle tomorrow than they do did for Eric today. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that is just one of the reasons why there is hope.

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<v Speaker 1>There is hope that even though Eric was denied today,

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle could still be granted parole when he goes before

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<v Speaker 1>the board on Friday. How is that possible? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>We continue now. Yes, it is late as of this recording,

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<v Speaker 1>way past my bedtime, and this is way passed When

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people thought that parole board hearing for

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Menndez thought it would be done a lot sooner

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<v Speaker 1>than now. But this thing went ten hours today started

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<v Speaker 1>at eight thirty local times, that's eleven thirty Eastern time

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<v Speaker 1>on this morning, and it went for some ten hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and because we didn't have any cameras, didn't have access,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one reporter that was in there wasn't able

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<v Speaker 1>to give real time updates publicly, we have all essentially

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<v Speaker 1>been standing by for ten hours waiting for any trickle

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<v Speaker 1>of information to come out, and sure enough we got it.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit ago. Eric Menendez has been denied, denied

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<v Speaker 1>parole by this parole board. They say he can come

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<v Speaker 1>back in three years. His brother Lyle is up tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>up on Friday. Now you hear his brother Eric has

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<v Speaker 1>been denied, and there were in this together the same crime,

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<v Speaker 1>then surely he would be denied as well. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is why, not necessarily there was argument that there could

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<v Speaker 1>be a split decision, And here is why. The same

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<v Speaker 1>parole board members are not expected to rule for each

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<v Speaker 1>So you got a different set of eyes, a different

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<v Speaker 1>set of ears tomorrow who will be considering Lyle's case.

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle's case will be considered based on his merits and

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<v Speaker 1>based on his behavior in prison, so he doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>have as many rules violations as his brother, or the

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<v Speaker 1>board members who are there tomorrow could maybe not put

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<v Speaker 1>as much emphasis on those rules violations. You just don't know. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>common sense might dictate and you might assume that he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be denied, but there is reason for possibly

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<v Speaker 1>his case and his history in prison being viewed differently

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<v Speaker 1>by a different set of Parole Board members. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>say all this, we see what happens, but we have

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<v Speaker 1>to remember there's one other option, one other possibility. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Newsom can step in and get them out of prison.

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<v Speaker 1>He can grant them clemency anytime he sees fit. He

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<v Speaker 1>has held off on doing so, but now he might

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<v Speaker 1>not have a decision to make if the parole Board

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<v Speaker 1>denies both Menindez brothers. It's tough to figure that the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was setting up to run for president wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be running a tough on crime campaign and have

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<v Speaker 1>to be asked questions about why he went against the

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<v Speaker 1>parole board and let two double murderers out of prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Politics just comes into that, but take the politics out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. If he just went with the parole board,

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't he listen to the experts on this So

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<v Speaker 1>an extraordinary day with an extraordinary lack of details all day,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was the one that was anticipated for so long,

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<v Speaker 1>after all these years, after all the moments them, after

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<v Speaker 1>all the documentaries, after all the Netflix hit shows, after

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<v Speaker 1>all the celebrity endorsements, after all that's gone on. In

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<v Speaker 1>this case, they finally get to this day and denied.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll keep an eye on it tomorrow as well, when

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle is up. We'll see how long that one goes.

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<v Speaker 1>But folks, just going to hop on and give you

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<v Speaker 1>all the update, and stayed up late to do so,

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<v Speaker 1>so I always appreciate you hanging with us. And a reminder,

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<v Speaker 1>Rogues is out on this one. She is in Bolder

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<v Speaker 1>dropping her daughter off for her sophomore year in college,

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<v Speaker 1>so Robes will be back with me soon. But now

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<v Speaker 1>I always appreciate you all listening.