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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's week six of Bachelor in Paradise. Ashley is here

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Speaker 2: with us to break down this week's chaotic I'll call

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Speaker 2: it confusing.

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Speaker 3: We're going with the confusing theme again. Where we said

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Speaker 3: confusing last week was like, it's.

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Speaker 2: Still confused, like this is. But this is confusing to

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Speaker 2: me in the sense it felt like a whirlwind of

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Speaker 2: craziness that I could not I had to draw a

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Speaker 2: chart before this episode to figure out who's still with

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Speaker 2: who and why they're with each other, because it feels

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Speaker 2: like nobody's back together anymore.

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Speaker 3: Well, Jared and I on our recap last week, we're

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Speaker 3: saying that, like, none of these super are running up together.

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Speaker 3: Like I've never watched this season and been like, okay,

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Speaker 3: but nobody here is getting married.

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Speaker 2: Going into this week, I really thought that we could

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Speaker 2: have some surprise engagements.

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Speaker 3: I thought, oh, like Eliza and Aaron. That's the only

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Speaker 3: one I thought.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought that Rachel and Braden might not get engaged,

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Speaker 2: but I thought they would be dating.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. I'm pretty surprised at his surprise moving fast, and.

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Speaker 2: I really thought Blake and Jess would come out of

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Speaker 2: this thing on top like that. We hadn't seen a

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Speaker 2: lot from that.

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Speaker 3: I'm fading out, especially after last week.

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Speaker 2: But how do we know that because we don't see anything,

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Speaker 2: Like we kind of see they get it. There's a confrontation.

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Speaker 3: We knew that because because she basically said she now

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Speaker 3: she is confused. Jess is the most confused. She's like, hey, like,

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Speaker 3: I think I don't know that I'm sold on this, Okay.

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Speaker 3: She tells him basically like in so little words, I

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Speaker 3: want to sort of date other people, and then in

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Speaker 3: this episode he decides to do that because she told

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Speaker 3: him that they should, and then she was like very

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Speaker 3: sad and annoyed.

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Speaker 2: Bryet, Yeah, she I think Jess as a catch. I

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Speaker 2: personally watched this and I'm like, that is somebody that

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Speaker 2: with the right guy on this beach. I could see

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Speaker 2: her getting engaged from this because it's too young, I think,

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Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think she's not ready. She doesn't know, she

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Speaker 3: doesn't know what she wants because she and then she

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Speaker 3: also said something in this episode that made me be

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Speaker 3: like what she said like nothing's going my way here,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, Jess, what are you talking about? You're

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Speaker 3: with Blake the entire time, and then last night you

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Speaker 3: said that maybe you should explore other options and what's

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Speaker 3: not going your way.

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Speaker 2: True, that's a good point. Yeah, well, we have a

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Speaker 2: lot to talk about. I think the main thing when

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Speaker 2: I say confusing, and maybe that's just that, you know,

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Speaker 2: the consensus for this whole season is it feels like

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Speaker 2: a whirlwind and it's confusing to me because we don't

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Speaker 2: have any couples that at this point were like, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm confident that they're going to be together at end

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Speaker 2: of this This is going to be a cool love story.

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Speaker 2: And we're getting farther and farther along in the season.

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Speaker 2: We're at week six, Like, at this point, it's rare.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I remember a season where there's

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Speaker 2: not one really strong couple. Now, to set the stage

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of this episode, the couples that exist

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Speaker 2: are Eliza and Aaron b We have Braden and Rachel.

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Speaker 2: We have Tyler and Mercedes. We have Tanner and Kat,

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Speaker 2: we have Jess and Blake.

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Speaker 3: Tanner and Kat are a little up in the air,

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Speaker 2: The closest thing to a couple that we have. We

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Speaker 2: have Olivia and Tyler and is that it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, John Henry and Olivia, John Henry

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Speaker 2: Who's Tyler with Mercedes? That's right, Mercedes. Yeah, okay, so

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Speaker 2: we got them all now, we got them all paired

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Speaker 2: up here right. The episode starts with some teasers charities

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Speaker 2: arriving at the beach. We really don't know why at

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Speaker 2: this point in the episode. And uh, there's distance between

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Speaker 2: and it's kind of the cat show through this whole episode.

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Speaker 3: The entire season is mostly the cat show. She is

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Speaker 3: a really good reality TV character. She is a nut.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you what are you getting at

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Speaker 2: a cat?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: What I'm understanding is cat she said it. I guess

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Speaker 2: I can only go off of the words that she says.

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Speaker 2: She feels like the guys that she's dated in a

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Speaker 2: can't break up with her. She has to break up

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Speaker 2: with him, right. She also had you know, has kind

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Speaker 2: It's I guess what I'm trying to understand, and you

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Speaker 2: She's obviously attractive.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she's extremely gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: But at this point the guys have seen.

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Speaker 3: But the guys, yep, I know what you really did.

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Speaker 2: Like, the guys have seen that she is volatile and

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think the only reason that John

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Speaker 3: Henry is entertaining her in this episode is because he

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Speaker 3: And I actually still think he likes Olivia Moore and

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Speaker 3: let's talk about their conversation. Initially, Tanner comes back from

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Speaker 3: his date with Davilla Davia Davia the day earlier, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think our personalities are compatible, because he sees

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Speaker 3: that she is fiery and a little scary, totally intense.

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Speaker 3: Is the anti she has, like this personality that really

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Speaker 3: puts men off in my personal perspective, but not also

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Speaker 3: saying that, like I've been there, because like I would

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Speaker 3: like to think of like myself in paradise, like walking

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Speaker 3: on a date with me, but most guys didn't because

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Speaker 3: my reputation personality wise preceded me.

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Speaker 2: So are you saying that you think she walked down

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that she's like confident and like feels Yes,

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Speaker 3: I feel like she does think she's a catch, and

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Speaker 2: I think, Well, and I wonder I'm curious kind of

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Speaker 2: Dovey's in a weird place because she just got there.

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Speaker 2: She probably doesn't have the depth of friendships that these

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Speaker 3: I think she just didn't want to get involved with

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Speaker 3: Cat's drama. She is the most dramatic person.

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Speaker 2: It is feeling. I just didn't expect to set a Cat.

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Speaker 2: I guess this is what my whole point is. I

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Speaker 2: didn't expect Cat to be this way because during her

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Speaker 3: Being so she was way more subdued.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember her being in my top two most

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Speaker 3: The Tanner thing is so selfish for sure, or self centered?

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Speaker 3: She is self centered. I somebody's throwing around the narcissist word.

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Speaker 2: She's just definitely out like there is no there's no

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Speaker 2: around her now. It is interesting me, outside of maybe

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Speaker 2: how we're seeing her being shown, it is interesting me

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Speaker 2: that Olivia continues to be the one that is caught

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Speaker 2: up when somebody else wants somebody else's man, right, Like

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was Kylie. She was going up against with

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Speaker 2: I guess Kylie Naven is the relationship we never mentioned

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Speaker 3: I read somewhere that he made some sort of snip

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Speaker 2: Well sorry, but to be honest, so Cat to calm

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Speaker 3: You guys seem pretty like you yeah, pretty together, but

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, every good couple in Paradise never gets shown.

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Speaker 2: I know, it happens every season until like the last

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Speaker 3: That's just not TV.

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Speaker 2: It's not TV. You can only show people like having

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Speaker 2: it is interesting me that Olivia continues to get kind

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Speaker 2: a little bit too personal with Kat during some of

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Speaker 2: I still want I mean, I still want Olivia to

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Speaker 2: to me because yeah, John Henry is everything Olivia says.

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Speaker 2: He is right, he is sweet, he's good looking. I

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Speaker 2: I think he is a genuinely good dude who doesn't

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Speaker 3: He's pretty aloof. Yes, yeah, he's I also think that

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Speaker 3: he is a loof. I don't think he's like imagining

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Speaker 2: And that's fine, but I do think he is. He's

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Speaker 2: he's treading dangerous water right now, because how this could

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Speaker 2: play out for him actually is if this goes poorly

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Speaker 2: for John Henry, and it will, it's there's too much

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Speaker 2: the water settling. But if this goes poorly and he

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Speaker 3: I know, a very scary situation right now.

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Speaker 3: So despite the fact that we're all confused about timelines

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Speaker 2: I think there's a middle ground. Yeah, I believe them all.

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Speaker 3: Because aren't you shocked? Like Charity really liked him, really

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Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know if that's wrong to go on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like you're still going to get the what

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Speaker 2: I think there's a better future possibly with, and that's Charity.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we can be upset about that, Like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because like, really, could you imagine leaving your soulmate

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Speaker 3: On Okay, all right, I kind of I guess would

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00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 3: really boil down to it. I guess I do agree

438
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 3: with you. I think what we were concerned about here

439
00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 3: is if he left, went on the show and did

440
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 3: it with the intent that perhaps he was going to

441
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 3: get back with her. Is there any at all that.

442
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 2: It could be. I mean, it definitely could be that

443
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: maybe he went on the show again could be a.

444
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: Huge read flag. That's just not a huge read flag,

445
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 3: do you because I'm not sure.

446
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 2: I think it is a red flag enough for Eliza

447
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: to confront him on it and be like, tell me

448
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: more at this. Yeah. I think he did a terrible

449
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: job at explaining.

450
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 3: Explaining it like so bad because he was so awkward, Like,

451
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 3: I get it, he was cornered and there's probably some

452
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: truth to it all, he was way too vague and

453
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 3: just felt like it just felt like in his explanation

454
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 3: he was trying to just get it over with.

455
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: Sure, I think he did a terrible job and explaining himself.

456
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: But if if what we said, if what he said

457
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: when you boil all the confusion down is actually true

458
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: that a relationship was ended and he went on the show,

459
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: I don't think it's like a red flag enough for

460
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: Eliza to be like, I can't date you anymore because

461
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 2: your values and your morals don't align with mine. I

462
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 2: don't think that's the case. I do think Eliza has

463
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: questions now, and I think.

464
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: She should be more skeptical now.

465
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: She could be more skeptical, yes, a little bit, but.

466
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 3: Also like, think about all the people who get annoyed

467
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: seeing their x on the show.

468
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 2: Here's what I don't love. The Bachelor world is is

469
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 2: one where you know, there's a lot of communication, positive

470
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: and negative going around all the time about every contestant

471
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 2: who has made any type of name for you know,

472
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: from the show, especially those that are living in going

473
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: to Paradise. I don't love Cat's move here. I think

474
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: that was probably the worst piece to me. She brought

475
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: Charity the bachelorette into a situation that Charity was not

476
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: around to defend herself or to speak to because she

477
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: wasn't on the beach yp and Kat is good friends

478
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: with Charity, besties, they say.

479
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: Which it's an odd couple there. There's must be a

480
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: whole other side of Cat that we're not seeing because

481
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 3: the girls actually seem to have some sort of loyalty

482
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 3: to order.

483
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: Well, I think she's funny, and I think she's like,

484
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: I think she's probably your friend that you're like, that's

485
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 2: just Cat, Like yeah.

486
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah.

487
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: But if Kat is like if I told you something

488
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: actually in confidence, or even if I didn't say, hey,

489
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: please don't tell anybody this, if I just told you

490
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: something and then I saw you on Paradise and you're like,

491
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 2: you know, Ben told me that that person kind of

492
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: like isn't as good as I thought he was. Ill

493
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: I would be upset with you. I would be like, Ashulely,

494
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: you brought me into television when I wasn't I wasn't there,

495
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: and I don't like that. You're a friend of mine,

496
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: and I respect kind of the code of privacy to

497
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: be able to confide in you you in a friendship

498
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: and know that it's never going to come back to

499
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: bite me.

500
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 3: It sounded as if Charity wanted this information to get

501
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: out because she said, like my girls. She was like,

502
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 3: my girls, all my guys are wonderful that are going

503
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 3: except watch out for him. So I do think it

504
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 3: was something for everybody to sort of know that.

505
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: Could make sense. She gave that permission that I get it.

506
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: She didn't seem annoyed by it. Okay, So besides that storyline,

507
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: which we have no idea what kind of move Eliza

508
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: is going to make after that, we need to talk

509
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: about Brayden bringing Becca on this date or back up

510
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 3: bringing Braiden on the date. It was I think a

511
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: bummer for all of us, just because we were really

512
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 3: rooting for Rachel and Braden. They seemed so cute last

513
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 3: week and now it's actually only a day after their date.

514
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: That sounds seems wacky, but yeah, it's a day after

515
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: their date. And Beca invites him on and they're and

516
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: he says early in the date that he thought he

517
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 3: had the great time somebody can have with Rachel, but

518
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: then this date far exceeded it, really early on. That's oh,

519
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: that sucks.

520
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, good for them that they have such

521
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: a good date. I do think Braiden, I don't think

522
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: this was a great move on Braiden's part, because I

523
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: think you needed to give Rachel a little bit more time.

524
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: I do think there was something special there. They had

525
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: a lot of fun together. It does, in a wild way,

526
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 2: kind of fit for me, the two.

527
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: Of them together, and you mean Rachel and him.

528
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: Rachel and him. Yeah, and even if he was interested

529
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: in Becca at some point during this whole process, actually,

530
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: I would assume I've never been again, never done it.

531
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 2: I would assume, as attractive as everybody is and as

532
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: cool as everybody is, at some point you say, hey,

533
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna if I came here looking for love, I'm

534
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: gonna settle down now, like I need to at least

535
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: play this one out, And it felt like Rachel Braiden

536
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: had enough fun and enough chemistry where he could have

537
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: easily said Becca, I'm super interested. You're gorgeous, but I

538
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: want to play this one out for a bit with

539
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: Rachel to see where it goes.

540
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was too giddy. The giddiness made me disappointed

541
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 3: because I thought the giddiness was a reserved for Rachel

542
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: at this point. But maybe it was a little bit

543
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 3: too early on. And I'm also not ruling them out

544
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: having something, even though he did say that on their date.

545
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: I think Beca just seems like I just feel more

546
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: substance with what he has with Rachel, so we'll see.

547
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: Well, we know Rachel better too. I think that's why.

548
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: We're obviously rooting for them, because we have such more

549
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: of a loyalty towards Rachel.

550
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a shocker for me. It was

551
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: a shocker that Braden is going on another date. It's

552
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: a shocker that really any man here that had it

553
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: feels like that kind of has a connection with Rachel

554
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: is not like super interested in it because we know

555
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: her well and she has some incredible qualities, she's beautiful,

556
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: she took the chance on one on the beach. It

557
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: would just I would just assume.

558
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: So freaking good this season, she just looks amazing, so

559
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: glowing in paradise.

560
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: At some point, somebody's going to be like, you know what,

561
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 2: I want to try this thing out with Rachel. If

562
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: it doesn't work, it doesn't work, but at least this

563
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: is a good like a good thing for me because

564
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: I think she's great and we think she's great. So,

565
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Charity does come down to the beach. Now,

566
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: after kind of all this being said, she sits down.

567
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: Mostly the big thing here is with Eliza to kind

568
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: of go over what we've already talked about when it

569
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: comes to her concerns about Aaron B. Eliza confronts Aaron

570
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: B and we get the really really confusing, super super

571
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 2: confusing answers from Aaron B that make no sense. And

572
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: we have done everything we possibly can during this podcast

573
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: to try to clear up what he was trying to say,

574
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: but he just didn't say it well and and so

575
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: we were yet to be seen what happens now moving

576
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: into the next episode, with Eliza making that choice on

577
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: if she you know stays in this relationship or not. Ashley,

578
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: I guess to kind of close up here, do you

579
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: hope she stays in this relationship?

580
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

581
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah I do.

582
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: I don't feel like so strong, Like I don't like

583
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 3: have like a ton of strong feelings for them, But

584
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: I don't think this is breakup worthy.

585
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So we have the sneak peeks for next week.

586
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: John Henry, we see kiss Cat, so maybe he is

587
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: in the Cat.

588
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's definitely gonna be some real ceremony drama

589
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: over that triangle.

590
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: We see the Cat in Olivia confrontation, which I cannot

591
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: wait because, like I said, I think the two of

592
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: them are probably the most quick witted and also have

593
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: no hold back on what they will say to each other.

594
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: That could be a front seat that I would like

595
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: to have.

596
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: It could be like the entire episode. I'd be okay

597
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 3: with that.

598
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be wild. It's gonna be interesting.

599
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god. And what we don't see teas but

600
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: I can only imagine is coming. It must be coming.

601
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: We're going into week seven is Katie Thurston's arrival, especially

602
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: with Blake coming back from this date with Genevieve.

603
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: At some point she's had to show up. We know

604
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: she was there, we just don't know if it's going

605
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: to be shown now or not. I guess, and.

606
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: I'm eager to see what happens with Jess and Tyler

607
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: and Mercedes Ashley.

608
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: To close up everything, I want to play a little

609
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: game with you after next week's episode. Let's assume there's

610
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: no new arrivals. Okay, no new arrivals. We're ending next

611
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: week's episode. This is going into the week eight. Now,

612
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: what couples will be together?

613
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: I do think Eliza and Aaron b will be together?

614
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 3: Are we talking couples? Are like? Who's going to give

615
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: roses to? Who?

616
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: Who's going to give rose to? Who?

617
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: Predict the next rose ceremony?

618
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: Sure?

619
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: I think Tyler is going to give Jess's rose. I

620
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: think Blake is going to give Genevieve's rose. I think

621
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: that even to Kylie will probably be the most secure relationship. Oh,

622
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: Peter and Sam. I think Peter to Sam, We're not

623
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: going to see a lot of them because I don't

624
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: think it's very heavy. I actually think Brandon is going

625
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: to end up somehow giving Rachel arose. It's just my guess.

626
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: And then who am I missing, and then who's gonna

627
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: give catterer? I think John Henry's rose. Who do I

628
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: think John? I think it's going to be I want

629
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 3: to Okay, I think it's going to be Olivia.

630
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So we'll say Mercedes and Becca will be going

631
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: home then at least from this group that we expect,

632
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: and I would say I agree with everything you just said,

633
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: and Kat would be then going home as well.

634
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: You do you pick Olivia over Kat?

635
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: I think at this point I have a feeling that

636
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: one of these dudes is going to sit down with

637
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: John Henry and be like, what are you doing? Like, yeah,

638
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: I know everything your body's telling you yes, but.

639
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: Will be going giving to I.

640
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: Think everybody's gonna say that John Henry's body tells him yes,

641
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: but his mind should start telling him no, and that

642
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 2: he should uh, he should just pick Olivia and uh

643
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: and make his life a little easier. I don't know

644
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: that that the conversations about his tonguering really made be uncomfortable.

645
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: There was a lot of innuan so much, so much,

646
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: so much goodness gracious, that poor fella he is is

647
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: gonna get he is going to get destroyed.

648
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: The vibrating tongue ring, A.

649
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: Vibrating tongue ring. M I can't imagine. Anyways, Hey, this

650
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: has been this week's episode of Bachelor in Paradise breakdown.

651
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: Actually and I are going to continue with another episode

652
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: of The Golden Bachelor. We've had headlines this week, so

653
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: make sure you go back and listen to those until

654
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: next week when who knows what the tornado of cat

655
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Speaker 2: Olivia and the poor guy John Henry is going to

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