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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

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Speaker 4: get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This

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Speaker 4: is Mandy be Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of

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Speaker 4: the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome,

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Speaker 4: to another episode of selective Ignorance. I'm your hosts, Mandy

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Speaker 4: beet all right, and today we are cutting through the

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Speaker 4: noise to figure out what really matters in music right now.

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Speaker 4: I love these conversations that I'm joined by a very

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Speaker 4: special guest to talking to it. Today, we're taking the

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Speaker 4: posts of the culture. We're talking hip hop, R and

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Speaker 5: So what is the state of hip hop?

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Speaker 4: Depending on who you ask, the genre is either in

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Speaker 4: a golden age of creativity or teetering on the edge

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Speaker 2: It's time to watch the party, Doe.

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Speaker 4: And you can't talk about that without mentioning the Drake

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Speaker 4: And then, of course Drake is tangled up in that

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Speaker 4: UMG lawsuit. Are we looking at business as usual or

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Speaker 5: Meanwhile, Radio, y'all know that I'm in I'm a little scared.

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Speaker 4: It's having its own identity crisis. Payola whispers are getting louder.

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Speaker 4: Is the old game of money for spends finally catching

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Speaker 4: up to everyone? And what does a rollout even mean

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, when surprise drops and viral snippets

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Speaker 5: And we do want to talk Cardi B.

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Speaker 5: We must talk Cardi B.

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Speaker 4: Cardi B is in another chapter in her story and

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Speaker 4: every move right now seems to be headline worthy. What

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Speaker 4: out some predictions as well. This episode is being recorded

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Speaker 4: before her album drops. We know it drops this week,

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Speaker 4: but we talking about it today. And don't think we

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Speaker 2: My boy says as to do it, don't do.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about all the things, and per usual, I

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Speaker 4: He reigns from the music industry. He is one of

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Speaker 7: So that was a really, really great introduction. I don't know,

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Speaker 5: And I said, we gotta went on. We gotta have

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Speaker 7: Life is amazing? Life is amazing. I woke up today.

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Speaker 5: Bro, I hate summer. It's hot, like you gotta you

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Speaker 5: It's called global warming, climate change, it's climate change. I

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Speaker 4: It was easy to get a nigga to pay a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Closs, I'm excited.

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Speaker 5: Twenty thirty thousand dollars a month just on TikTok, like

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Speaker 4: Your YouTube channel now, and then that's the other thing too,

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Speaker 8: I'm my YouTube and that's my TV I watch. I

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Speaker 4: I like listening to everybody in their opinions on everything,

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Speaker 5: It sucks. The aliens are here, we have a hot

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Speaker 5: I enjoy making content. I fucking love it.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I'm glad that your ass is on

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean so for for me, like yo, media

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Speaker 5: Not I want to met you. I don't think I

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Speaker 2: Nah, nobody did.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to be rich and nobody knew me, you

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Speaker 7: the system. Right, Oh, I'm signed the complex. When that ends,

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Speaker 7: then I signed to Amazon's right, I left a relationship,

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Speaker 7: And then I said, yo, you know what, I'm just

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Speaker 7: So I'm doing this all myself. They saw the vision,

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Speaker 2: So the problem was people come into my crib like

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Speaker 7: They go to the bank, cash a million dollar check,

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Speaker 2: Like that listen. If you have a do you have

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Speaker 7: If my dog like fresh fries, if he sees me

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Speaker 5: That means there was a rolex in there one point yees.

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Speaker 7: It's a new established relationship with you don't know. But

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Speaker 7: So I ain't even tripping, but I just opened. I

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Speaker 5: You don't know until you don't know.

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Speaker 4: I do date regular niggas like not every person that

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Speaker 5: You could have never talked to him again. And that's

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Speaker 4: Whoever saw the rolex box, people think it's rolexes are.

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Speaker 2: Let me say no, no, you're bugging the funk out.

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Speaker 2: You keep been doing so good. No not even you've

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Speaker 5: I haven't lost my touch. I get Listen, you have.

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Speaker 7: You said you could get a watch for five thousand.

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Speaker 5: Names I get you.

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Speaker 7: You know how many people you walk past every day

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Speaker 7: I bought my daughter, Like my daughter has a Rolex.

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Speaker 5: I know that's right.

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing, and I get you could talk

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Speaker 7: So, speaking about a person, if anybody has three something

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Speaker 7: I've known my mother for forty two years. We've never

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Speaker 5: That's crazy.

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Speaker 7: We've never been on It's not crazy. It's not crazy.

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Speaker 7: We come from the ghetto.

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Speaker 5: No, it's crazy, because what you mean you ain't take

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Speaker 2: No, it's not you. No, no, no, no, no no, my

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Speaker 2: So if you see a nigga that take their kid

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Speaker 2: You know what the average man is. The average man

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Speaker 5: The average man is judging you about that Rolex box

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Speaker 7: He is.

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Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: It's not even his fault. His fault is that I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel me. So it's like you have to

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Speaker 1: Bad intel for him. You don't know him like that.

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Speaker 1: Did you wait till he left?

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Speaker 5: Or my dumb ass?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And I was just like, damn, my dumb ass, I

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Speaker 4: No, he left, and then I was like, fuck, I

445
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Speaker 4: hope my watch still enough because he.

446
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Speaker 5: Used the bathroom.

447
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Speaker 8: So now that you found the watch was still in

448
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Speaker 8: the bathroom, did you invite him back at some point?

449
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Speaker 1: Oh, y'all good? Or how did you?

450
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

451
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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I mean, but now it's just interesting, like

452
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Speaker 4: the way you said betting, I just got to bet

453
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Speaker 4: who I let in my home now. And I'm also

454
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Speaker 4: doing media in my home now too, so.

455
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Speaker 2: Do you. And you're from Florida.

456
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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm from Florida, but I just lived in New

457
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Speaker 4: York for thirteen years. I hate imagery I Florida. SOI said,

458
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Speaker 4: I need two guns. I went upstairs, the one downstairs.

459
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Speaker 1: In the bathroom, everywhere you might go. You need to

460
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Speaker 1: have said that.

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Speaker 8: He said that if dude did something a long day,

462
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Speaker 8: and I'm not saying I'm just saying.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have a long day because I'm gonna blast

464
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Speaker 5: you on the internet.

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Speaker 2: That's brokey stupid.

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Speaker 4: Anyways, we have a segment called double Down and Take

467
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Speaker 4: It Back where we bring up something that you said

468
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Speaker 4: on the internet that we may or may not agree with,

469
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Speaker 4: but we want to see if you're gonna stand on

470
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Speaker 4: business or if you want to walk back some of

471
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Speaker 4: your take Jason had is the clip real quick and

472
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Speaker 4: let's see what you had to say, okay?

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Speaker 7: Or we don't need gatekeepers, and I think that we

474
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Speaker 7: do need gatekeepers back.

475
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Speaker 2: I want to talk about media aspect of it.

476
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Speaker 7: This platforms, right, these platforms aren't curated by a network anymore.

477
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Speaker 7: On the Radar, for instance, Love on the Radar, those

478
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Speaker 7: my guys literally watch Gabe, you know what I mean.

479
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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to sit here and say I

480
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Speaker 2: was in the trenches with them or nothing.

481
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Speaker 7: But I've been going to Power one O five for

482
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Speaker 7: about fifteen years, having relationships with everybody over there, and

483
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Speaker 7: I heartened, you know, tons of people and watch Gabe

484
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Speaker 7: start an idea from him interviewing people and turn it

485
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Speaker 7: into a performance platform. And while I think that on

486
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Speaker 7: the Radar is great, and it's been a lot of

487
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Speaker 7: blood sweating tears that people don't get to see in

488
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Speaker 7: order for them to build that platform, too many people

489
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Speaker 7: got access to it.

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Speaker 2: Or we don't need gatekeepers.

491
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Speaker 4: I disagree here, but I wanted to know you're where

492
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Speaker 4: were you going after that? Like, what is the problem

493
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Speaker 4: that you you feel like we need gatekeepers?

494
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Speaker 5: And what is too much access?

495
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Speaker 7: Okay, hold on, just to let everybody who's listening to

496
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Speaker 7: know that is I do it myself. You could find

497
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Speaker 7: it on YouTube clean on one one nine.

498
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Speaker 2: That's my ship.

499
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Speaker 5: I shoot and and it looks like that he has

500
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Speaker 5: a whole timberland behind him.

501
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Speaker 1: Facts.

502
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Speaker 2: You're so sad again.

503
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Speaker 4: I want to know if you if you genuinely believe

504
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Speaker 4: a the gatekeepers are necessarily specifically in the media space.

505
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Speaker 4: I want to stay there before getting into music this episode,

506
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Speaker 4: but also what having too much access means and.

507
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Speaker 2: Why I'm gonna give you simple Can anybody come sit

508
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Speaker 2: right here with you? Anybody?

509
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Speaker 5: I don't know what that means.

510
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Speaker 2: Can anybody come.

511
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Speaker 9: Any guess they don't want to be on your show?

512
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Speaker 7: Anybody anybody that you could think of that say, hey,

513
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Speaker 7: I do podcasts too? Can they come up here? Have

514
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Speaker 7: they earned the right to come sit next to you

515
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Speaker 7: and talk to now? Okay, So, like I said on

516
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Speaker 7: the radar, I put a lot of disclaimers on there

517
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Speaker 7: because I have a great relationship with those brothers and

518
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Speaker 7: the sisters over there.

519
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

520
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Speaker 7: They're great people, but too many people can do it.

521
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Speaker 7: That's why it's not special. Let me ask you a question, Yes,

522
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Speaker 7: men and women, does anybody do you want to walk

523
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Speaker 7: in a room with your men that you decide to

524
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Speaker 7: be with and every woman that's in there that you

525
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Speaker 7: know is out there like that could say that they

526
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Speaker 7: had a PC a man. No, But I like, let

527
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Speaker 7: me that's fine, Like, I just want to make the point,

528
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Speaker 7: no said the first thing you said was no, no,

529
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Speaker 7: but no no, no, no no, you said no.

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Speaker 2: Let's just leave it at no.

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Speaker 10: Right.

532
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Speaker 7: When it comes to platforms, too many people have access

533
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Speaker 7: and that's what deteriorates the craft of what it is

534
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Speaker 7: you're saying you're doing. You tell me you're an artist,

535
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Speaker 7: right right, Hey, listen, I think that media is this

536
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Speaker 7: thing everybody should have a chance. Okay, what's the steps

537
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Speaker 7: that you took to be able to be on this platform?

538
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Speaker 2: This is a platform.

539
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Speaker 7: And like I said, I'm gonna put a hundred disclaimers

540
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Speaker 7: on this because Gabe is my man and I never

541
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Speaker 7: want him to feel no way that Nigga had Drake

542
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Speaker 7: on his platform. You think that when jay Z did

543
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Speaker 7: RAHP City that any nigga that work at Costco could

544
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Speaker 7: just walk in and be like, I'm a freestyle too,

545
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Speaker 7: I rap. Just it deteriorates the brand. Because, don't get

546
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Speaker 7: me wrong, the brand is what it is. People gonna

547
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Speaker 7: mess with it regardless. But I just think that you

548
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Speaker 7: have to earn that. It's something that you have to

549
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Speaker 7: earn now with media, we said specifically media, Yeah, we

550
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Speaker 7: could say it media, with media specifically.

551
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Speaker 2: Right for myself, don't get me wrong.

552
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Speaker 7: If you approach me the right way, I'll speak to

553
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Speaker 7: anybody if you approach me the right way. But everybody

554
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Speaker 7: can't sit with me on a camera.

555
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Speaker 2: Everybody.

556
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Speaker 1: I'm not.

557
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Speaker 2: I'm not sitting with any single artist.

558
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Speaker 7: You want to know why, because I also have to

559
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Speaker 7: keep some sort of integrity from my brand and what

560
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Speaker 7: I represent.

561
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Speaker 2: Now people could feel however the fuck they want about that.

562
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Speaker 2: I don't care.

563
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Speaker 7: I want to talk to people that I want to

564
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Speaker 7: talk to and they want to talk to me. I

565
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Speaker 7: don't want to be a promo stop for niggas. No

566
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Speaker 7: I gotta mixtape coming out, yo, let me be on

567
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Speaker 7: the plot. No so, and I get it because I

568
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Speaker 7: was listening to you earlier, and I was gonna wait

569
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Speaker 7: to say somebody when you were saying about like even

570
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Speaker 7: with media, how much money it is, you gonna make

571
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Speaker 7: money regardless, but we can't. The thing is you can't

572
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Speaker 7: chase the money because once you can't chase it no more,

573
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Speaker 7: then you have to figure out what it is with

574
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Speaker 7: the streaming shit. Streaming is a craft for something people

575
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Speaker 7: for sure, you know what I'm saying. So when you say, yeah.

576
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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get the money.

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Speaker 7: That already I mean I'm not. I get what you

578
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Speaker 7: and my sister I know where you know where in

579
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Speaker 7: my head?

580
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Speaker 1: Is that too?

581
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Speaker 2: Because words count?

582
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Speaker 5: I get that, But also so does comprehension.

583
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Speaker 4: And so when I say other things around outside of

584
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Speaker 4: getting the money, I also talk about loving what I do.

585
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Speaker 4: I talk about having an opinion and wanting it to

586
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Speaker 4: be platformed in all of these different ways. So the

587
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Speaker 4: greatest word you said is comprehension. That the ship is

588
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Speaker 4: a skill that people lack. Oh, mad people, how many

589
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Speaker 4: episodes Jason do? I say, comprehension skills are like but that's.

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Speaker 7: What But that's the only rea I'm not trying. I'm

591
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Speaker 7: just saying it's like you know exactly everybody. I'm just saying, right,

592
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Speaker 7: I take pride in coming up here to sit with

593
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Speaker 7: you because I know your grind. I know your fucking grind.

594
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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna come be here with my sister because

595
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Speaker 7: I know how. But that don't mean that everybody could

596
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Speaker 7: come up here.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 4: However, when I've talked about the issue in media is

599
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Speaker 4: gatekeepers as well, like so for me, so where you

600
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Speaker 4: say we need them, I have.

601
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Speaker 5: I normally have an issue with gatekeepers.

602
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Speaker 4: I think that us not sharing information with each other

603
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Speaker 4: about what these contracts and deals look like keep us

604
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Speaker 4: making less especially considered to our white counterparts. I think

605
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Speaker 4: we have to be realistic with with even even the teams.

606
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Speaker 5: That we have.

607
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Speaker 4: Hey, the cameras that we use, like I don't like

608
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Speaker 4: the people they get into this space, succeed and then

609
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Speaker 4: essentially gate keep the information to keep other people, specifically

610
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Speaker 4: black creators, elevating in the way that they.

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Speaker 11: Do decision makers gatekeepers or or just he's talking about

612
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Speaker 11: gatekeeping in terms of like curation, Like many's talking about

613
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Speaker 11: like sharing information I'm.

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Speaker 5: Talking about Okay, you're talking about who.

615
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Speaker 7: Gets they can't go I don't think so this is

616
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Speaker 7: the thing. I just think that things have to be earned.

617
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Speaker 7: And like one time I did a panel with no ID,

618
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Speaker 7: and no Id was like, Yo, if you want to

619
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Speaker 7: be an electrician, that's classes you have to take. It's

620
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Speaker 7: things you have to pass. You can't just say that

621
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Speaker 7: you're an I'm certified right for people? You know how

622
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Speaker 7: many people say that they are artists, like I'm an artist,

623
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Speaker 7: I'm an artist. I'm a artist, and then majority of

624
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Speaker 7: what they do is copy and paste to the last

625
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Speaker 7: person they see, so there's no individuality, which in turn

626
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Speaker 7: whole shit back. Now, I'm not saying that a person

627
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Speaker 7: don't deserve a shot. I'm just saying that people need

628
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Speaker 7: to earn their shot. Your shot can't be Yo, we

629
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Speaker 7: need content, so just let them in.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We need more content.

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Speaker 7: Yes, So it's like, all right, if I was a

632
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Speaker 7: person who because I haven't launched my platform when I

633
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Speaker 7: speak with people, but if I was a person that

634
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Speaker 7: just I talked to anybody, how special is my plan?

635
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Speaker 4: So then let me ask you though, in terms of output, right,

636
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Speaker 4: because it's what we see even and listen, I'm a

637
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Speaker 4: fan and I'm also a friend of a lot of

638
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Speaker 4: people up there. It's what we see in terms of

639
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Speaker 4: out put though, and so I'm curious as to how

640
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 4: you navigate a show when you start putting out Hey,

641
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 4: if you do one episode a week, what is that

642
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 4: fifty one to fifty two episodes for the year?

643
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Speaker 5: Cool?

644
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: But guess what is fifty two people that you care

645
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Speaker 4: to sit and have a conversation with. So it reminds

646
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Speaker 4: me of the Joe Butten podcast, who, even though he

647
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: has one hundred co hosts with him, he's now having

648
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 4: to lean into interviewing people because conversations can get stale.

649
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 4: And now how many people actually deserve to sit up

650
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Speaker 4: there with him? Not just anybody. But when you lean

651
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Speaker 4: into a guest based show like an on the Radar,

652
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: who is a performance based, interview based platform guest space,

653
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Speaker 4: you're gonna have to lean into sometimes people you don't

654
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Speaker 4: want to sit and talk to me because how many

655
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Speaker 4: people really do you know or do you care to

656
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Speaker 4: even talk to?

657
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Speaker 7: But as a human beings, see all right, So look,

658
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Speaker 7: everybody can't get on just incredible they can't. But all right,

659
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Speaker 7: so you said Joe Button podcast, right, Yeah, Now, the

660
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 7: thing with Joe Button podcast is that the thing of

661
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Speaker 7: his brand regardless is hearing him talk with people. It's

662
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Speaker 7: never just been him by hisself, no matter how many

663
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Speaker 7: people he's changed out, it's never been him by hisself.

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Speaker 7: So but the thing is is that when you have

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Speaker 7: a person on there that's ancillary, that's extra because people

666
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 7: are so used to So this is the approach that

667
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 7: I took with doing my my Ship because everything was oh, wait, no,

668
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 7: you need a call hold, you need academics, or you

669
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 7: need this.

670
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: When I did, remember I did your podcast. When I did,

671
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: y'all don't even know.

672
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 5: I want to wait on as my call host.

673
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 7: After I was like, I started getting this nickname online

674
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 7: as the sixth man of podcasts. So people were saying, oh,

675
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 7: he's better going on somebody else's shit.

676
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: So I told, yeah, wait.

677
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 4: Tell him about how uh Joe wanted way no hold on.

678
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: This is something y'all don't even know. Y'all don't even

679
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 4: know if it's telepin yes, you do exclusively. So when

680
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: when see the thing is went from three to two,

681
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: immediately there was like, okay, well we want to keep

682
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 4: this a third. And the reason why at one point

683
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: it needed to be a third was because my contract

684
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: with Decisions Decisions, horrible decisions, was that I couldn't have

685
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 4: another duo based show that talked about That's even why

686
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 4: we had a third to begin with. On say, the

687
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 4: thing is I have a contract with Weezy about what

688
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: content I could do with another CA host. Didn't help

689
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: that I was also sitting next to another biracial you

690
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 4: know what I mean, so so literally, so literally when

691
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: we started having different guests come on, Weno was one

692
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: of the first guests to come on.

693
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 5: And baby you it worked. We liked it so much.

694
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: Soda where Joe was like, this is it, Let's get

695
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: a joke, starts hitting us up like you. I think

696
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 4: Joe might have had a couple of calls or at

697
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: least ian they were trying to get a contract to

698
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Speaker 4: figure out how how are they?

699
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, because you cut it off quick. You

700
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 5: were like, yeah, fuck, I don't want to sit next

701
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: to them to biracial bitches. No, it's but literally, almost.

702
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: Immediately Joe was like, Waena, when is it. Let's let's

703
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 4: try to get Weno is the third. I mean it

704
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 4: didn't go very far, but here on the point was

705
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: considered to be.

706
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 7: But so what happened. Also, I had already signed the

707
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 7: deal with Amazon, and a few people wanted to sign

708
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 7: me too. Deals right, A few people like, what you

709
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 7: about to do next?

710
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: And then I had the podcast? Now I was because

711
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: I did the podcast.

712
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 8: I had my own podcast, yes, exact.

713
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: Look, he didn't know my government name.

714
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, who said oh?

715
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 7: But so what it was was I started telling everybody like,

716
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 7: let me do what I could do on my own.

717
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 7: I just come from doing this was never my plan,

718
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 7: and I just come from doing this ship for three

719
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 7: years with two other people, So let me see what

720
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 7: I could do on my own.

721
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: But that is what you said, I will say respectfully.

722
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: You were like, yo, I just got out.

723
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 7: Will was because I was trying to make a point

724
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 7: before you went on that we was talking the podcast.

725
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: And yes, the podcast, right, So you said about and how.

726
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 5: If you're if you're sitting with this many people.

727
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: How do you are not.

728
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Speaker 1: Right?

729
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 2: So all right?

730
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 7: So my my thing to that was right because you

731
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 7: said fifty two if you do fifty two episodes. The

732
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 7: thing is that in today's game, people have to see

733
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 7: you fifteen times to see you. Once they had they

734
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 7: literally got to see you fifteen times to be able

735
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 7: to say, I see what you're doing. So but there's

736
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 7: a very very thing line between persistence and annoyance, right

737
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 7: Like if for myself, if I wanted, yo, I promise

738
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 7: you tomorrow, I could be way bigg as immediate personality

739
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 7: if I started antics.

740
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 5: Yeah you said, I'm not slutting myself.

741
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: If I could, if I told them like you, I

742
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: don't even know.

743
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: List.

744
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: I ended up in some clickbait shit and I didn't

745
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: even know how I want it. Please the North for real,

746
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: the Dreamville because clickbaiting. Yeah, but the.

747
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 5: Dreamville shiit, I remember, I remember, but.

748
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: See, but I didn't have no ill intention.

749
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 7: What it was was if we have in general conversation

750
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 7: about anything, just on some regular shit, I think that

751
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 7: that's just whatever.

752
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: That's cool.

753
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 7: Like if we sit and we behind it, we talk

754
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 7: about Lebron and Mike, and I'm like, yo, I was

755
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 7: chilling with the d TD niggas and most of them

756
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 7: think is better than Mike. I'm just speaking generally. I'm

757
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 7: going to keep it a hundred. As long as I've

758
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 7: been on the internet on camera, I do not know

759
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 7: how the ship works, no for real, So so I

760
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 7: did when I did Dreamville. It's I've been I've had

761
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 7: a great relationship with Dreamville over the years.

762
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: So it's a certain nigga. We arguing about Kendrick and

763
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: and and Drake.

764
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 7: So I'm thinking, you don't think I didn't know I

765
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 7: promised with loll he Dian, I did not know that,

766
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 7: like saying something like that was me trying to get a.

767
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: But to be honest, when that came out or when

768
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 4: you had that conversation, it was it was before the

769
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 4: Big Three argument.

770
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: No, it was not.

771
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 7: It was it was during I was during no Listen.

772
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Speaker 7: It was during the time when when when when j

773
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 7: Cole is seven seven minute drill, So I didn't remember

774
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 7: that's the last time I seen you dream So we

775
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 7: had dreaming. Everybody arguing talking talking about I'm not thinking

776
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 7: that it's like this deep ship about if I.

777
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 5: Wait, was that the year that Drake was there but

778
00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 5: didn't go?

779
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: This is it was two years ago twenty Yeah, that

780
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: was twenty twenty three.

781
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: It was last year. That was last year, twenty twenty.

782
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: Four, because this year, this year, this year they did

783
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: I didn't.

784
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 5: Right, that's right, that was last year, last year, last year, last.

785
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 7: So what I said I'm like, yeah, I said, some

786
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 7: of the Dreamville niggas think that Kendrick is overrated. Bro listen, no,

787
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 7: but the dream So Jay, this is what you said,

788
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 7: like clickbait, right, I did not know.

789
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: I swear to everything was going to be. But I

790
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: did not know that it was going to be a

791
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: big thing.

792
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: Because you it's you that said it. It's dream Field.

793
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: People know the dynamics.

794
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 7: You know what people took it, like the way they

795
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 7: took it, like I'll be at cold House at Christmas

796
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 7: and we always sitting around and he was like and

797
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 7: all of it was like Kendrick, like that's the way

798
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 7: they made it. I did, I swear to everything. I

799
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 7: did not know that that's how that ship worked. Because

800
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 7: then somebody clipped it and then they said, oh, I

801
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 7: think hes talking about Jed, and yeah I did.

802
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 5: They did do that, and then jid response like it

803
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 5: became it was a thing.

804
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: And then and then and then they was like then

805
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: it was like the dreaming, like, oh, niggas doing shit

806
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: for clicks. I'm like, I don't even know none of this.

807
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: You never have to follow up with.

808
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 6: Ses.

809
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: I'm not even saying.

810
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 8: I'm gonna get because of relationships. Yeah, what was the conversation.

811
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, listen, listen. I did fall out with somebody

812
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: I was cool with.

813
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 7: But at the same time, this nigga started saying ship

814
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 7: that it sounded like he always wanted to say to me.

815
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 7: That ain't have nothing to do with what I said. Yeah,

816
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 7: because look like this is the thing. Right then, I

817
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 7: had conversations with people and I was like, oh, like

818
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 7: I didn't like. I had a conversation with somebody and

819
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 7: I was like, I didn't mean it in that context,

820
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 7: but I understand how it looks.

821
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: Second.

822
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 5: But again, comprehension, skills, perception all the way.

823
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 7: What I'm saying is what I did was I really

824
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 7: worked the internet that day.

825
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: Without working the internet, I did not know that that

826
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: was gonna go.

827
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 7: Like cause for me, I'm sitting in my crib pressing record,

828
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 7: editing it and putting it out and my channel ain't big,

829
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 7: So I don't think of it as way No.

830
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 5: Said, you never know what's gonna go, but I don't.

831
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: But this what I'm saying.

832
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 7: Listen the way I talk like, you see how you

833
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 7: said a person when you first described you said a

834
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 7: person from from the music industry, I'm a nigga from

835
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 7: a hund.

836
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: Nineteenth for election.

837
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 9: Ta that part, you know what I'm saying.

838
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 7: So it's like everything the way I talk is like

839
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 7: me being on my block. That that's my mindset. I

840
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 7: don't never think about how it affects people. I'm just

841
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 7: starting to learn that within it. Because keep in mind,

842
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 7: that's my first year of doing media by myself. If

843
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 7: I would have did that on Complex, somebody'd be like, nah,

844
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 7: let's take that out.

845
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

846
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 7: It's been times with certain shit we said they like,

847
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 7: now let's take that. I know I keeping gatekeeper, all right,

848
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 7: so I still have.

849
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 4: A part of it Jay that I just I mean,

850
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 4: I mean to me, it's unfortunate because I mean, even

851
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 4: when I was just talking about Mellow in the last episode,

852
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 4: You're like, is that is that known?

853
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 5: Is that out?

854
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: Like I remember, I ended up and it sucks because

855
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: I didn't want it. And I'm still a huge fan

856
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 4: of her. I lover, but I don't think she'll ever

857
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 4: want me around. But I mess up an opportunity with

858
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 4: Lotto just sharing something that I didn't know anything. Listen, no,

859
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 4: and I love her, I love but even I ended

860
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: up getting phone calls because I know people. So basically,

861
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: when it was I think it was right before her

862
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: seven seven seven album or the Lucky the Lucky album.

863
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: She was supposed to be doing like some huge, like

864
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: in person installation.

865
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 5: With AI and all these screens.

866
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: They wanted me to host it, and I went on,

867
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: I think this was one I had see the thing

868
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 4: is And it was when she did an interview talking

869
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 4: about some nigga that was featured on her album was

870
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 4: trying to come at her in terms of her doing

871
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 4: something for a verse right, and she shared the story

872
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: but didn't put a name on the bullet. Well, the

873
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: Internet took that it was Kodak because Kodak was on

874
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: the album. Well, I hopped on my little platform and

875
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: shared that I knew who it was. And when I

876
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: shared it, mind you, here's the thing. I know her team.

877
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 4: So niggas on her team hit me because then they

878
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 4: were like, did you talk to this and their to

879
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 4: me out because I shared who it was and I

880
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 4: was like, no, I know who it is because I

881
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 4: know a bitch that fuck him and he told me

882
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 4: all this. Anyways, it was a it was a gossip

883
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 4: and shit because at the end of the day, y'all

884
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: don't know. I'm not a whole no more, but I

885
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: still know all the holes and everybody, and I know

886
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: everybody's business. But like, I still have niggas hit me like, hey,

887
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: you heard.

888
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 5: My name lately.

889
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: I just need to know because one of my bitches

890
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: is mad at me and I need to know what's

891
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 4: going around.

892
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 5: Being talked about me.

893
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: But it was it was Wayne that did the thing.

894
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 4: I shared it and literally from there team was like, damn, bruh,

895
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: you know it's crazy Lotto mad that you you know,

896
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: and I was like, damn, I'm still team Lotto.

897
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 2: Love Lotto.

898
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 5: By the way, Lotto.

899
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 4: Hopefully I get to see you and we can hash

900
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: things out. None of your team told me anything. It

901
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: was actually one of Wayne's bitches.

902
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 8: But yeah, you know, hearing y'all talk, right, I saw

903
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 8: something in myself that that I purposely hold myself.

904
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: Back because of relationships.

905
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 8: But hearing you talk about how you had to deal

906
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 8: with that, it's up you kind of don't have You

907
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 8: can't give a fuck because you can't.

908
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: Because because I feel like without.

909
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 8: That interaction happening, you would have not known that said

910
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 8: person that you that you didn't specify felt the way

911
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 8: about you personally, so that they would have been playing

912
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 8: the industry game because of something that you are passionate about,

913
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 8: which is normal regular conversations a hip hop fan.

914
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 7: But but you know what I mean, Ultimately he's a bitch.

915
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 7: But because I'm gonna keep it on hnted.

916
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 9: Like it would have came out anyway.

917
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm not listening.

918
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 9: Listen, I don't gonna come out.

919
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 2: I'm never listened. Let me say something. I never said

920
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: nothing to nobody because I was mad.

921
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 7: Right if I tell you how I feel, because that's

922
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 7: how I really feel, period, So I'm not like if

923
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 7: you say something negative to me about me and you

924
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 7: you could have been you mad or could.

925
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: Have been how you felt.

926
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 7: I'm gonna just take that as it is because I

927
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 7: don't treat situations like that, right, Like if if somebody

928
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 7: do something that I dislike, and then I tried to

929
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 7: talk to the person like I was like yo, like

930
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 7: because guess what, Like I'm not no tough guy, but

931
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 7: I'm stupid. So I'm so for a second, I'm like

932
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 7: I was about to say something really stupid to.

933
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 5: Him, like for real, alum was gonna come out?

934
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 2: Not even I'm a grown fucking man.

935
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 7: You're not going to just be talking to me however

936
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 7: you feel like you talk y'all niggas don't do y'all

937
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 7: can't do ten push ups. I'm not gonna be talking

938
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 7: to me crazy. So so I was about I said something.

939
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 7: I said, nah, let me not because I got love

940
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 7: for this nigga. Let me not even say that. And

941
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 7: then he came back and said some more shit. I said,

942
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 7: all ror whatever, Like you know what I mean, That's

943
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 7: just a relationship I.

944
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: Had to lose.

945
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 7: But the thing about the relationships is them sit be

946
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 7: fake anyway. And I'm not saying that about Dream Villain

947
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 7: is totality because they've put me in great positions to

948
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 7: look good on their platform, and without them put me

949
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 7: in those positions, it's checks I wouldn't have got.

950
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 5: It's also just it's industry. It's entertainment.

951
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 2: Also, bringing niggas is not my front.

952
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 5: Listen, the workers aren't your but they're not going to be.

953
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 9: Coworking, you know what I mean.

954
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 7: What I understand is there is that majority of the

955
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 7: people that I deal with, and this ship is not

956
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 7: going to be at my funeral.

957
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: That just is what it is.

958
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 7: Like many you know you, me and you known each

959
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 7: other over ten something years.

960
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 2: This is my sister.

961
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 7: Every time she'd be like, wait, come on, let's go,

962
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 7: I'd be like, nah, I don't, and she don't, and

963
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 7: then then she asked me why, I'd be like, I

964
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 7: don't feel like being around these people because I've been

965
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 7: in this ship. Bro, I've been in this ship since

966
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 7: jay Z was first dating Beyonce. I don't seen so

967
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 7: much fake Yeah, I'm old. I didn't seen so much

968
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 7: fake ship. I just and I don't.

969
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 8: Got somebox from him one time, not the rebox, ain't

970
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 8: never get had shifted, it was dope.

971
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: I just don't want it.

972
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 7: The thing is like, I just don't want to be

973
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 7: out here trying to fake, like I like, because I've

974
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 7: been the person to try to fake.

975
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 5: That's it's training.

976
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: And then listen, listen you.

977
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 7: I've been the person that's been and I don't even

978
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 7: call it fake because every every every relationship I built

979
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 7: was on a quadial position. And then when you ask

980
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 7: a person something, yo, is it possible I could do this?

981
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 7: Then they just don't say nothing, Like bro, just say no,

982
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 7: don't treat me.

983
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: Like I'm like I'm begging you for something.

984
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 7: I never asked, not one person in this ship for

985
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 7: nothing but an opportunity. And if the worst thing you

986
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 7: could tell me is no my mother, nobody's no hurt

987
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 7: more than my mother's you know what I'm saying. So

988
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 7: it's like I don't give a fuck about none of

989
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 7: the ship. That's the reason why I started doing my

990
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 7: own media. I like it because I don't want nobody

991
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 7: telling me what the fuck the period. Excuse me for ranting,

992
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 7: but I just don't like nobody telling me what to do.

993
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: All these niggas, and.

994
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: I don't like working with partners, so I'm glad, Like

995
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I would have loved working with you.

996
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 2: But that's why I'm.

997
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 5: Doing this shit but myself. But also people to put the.

998
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 9: Period on the intro because we got Wayne, so I

999
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 9: want to get a lot of me.

1000
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we getting music with time.

1001
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 6: But for the you know, gatekeeping is protecting stuff, right,

1002
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 6: So sometimes you're protecting your feelings, Sometimes you're protecting other feelings.

1003
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 6: Sometimes you're protecting your talent or into Gabe's point, just

1004
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 6: I'm example of on the Radar, it's protecting something that

1005
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 6: he built, right, And you know what I'm saying you

1006
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 6: don't want everybody in your house.

1007
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 9: He built his house break by brick.

1008
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 6: Sometimes everybody can't come in, right, and so sometimes gatekeeping

1009
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 6: is just that right, like or if you're a genuine person,

1010
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 6: and sometimes you're gatekeeping, like I'm genuine and you're being fake,

1011
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 6: and so I gotta close that off, right And so

1012
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 6: to the point of, like what you said on the

1013
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 6: clip of occurrency hip, like, sometimes gatekeeping.

1014
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 7: Works sometimes is detrimental because I like the fact that

1015
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 7: you brought up like the big.

1016
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 5: We were on two different sides.

1017
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: Well, let's get into music, guys, and this is where

1018
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 4: we might disagree agree.

1019
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 5: We'll see.

1020
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 4: Uh, We're gonna start with Lizzo, who recently talked about

1021
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 4: Song of the Summer. There's actually been quite a few

1022
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 4: people talking about this song of the Summer debate. There's

1023
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: been the conversation of labels messing up releases that should

1024
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 4: have been songs of the Summer but they dropped too

1025
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 4: late in the summer. So we have a clip real

1026
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 4: quick to kick off this conversation around her thoughts on

1027
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: why there was no Song of the Summer, and then

1028
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: Weno actually thinks there was.

1029
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 5: We're gonna get into that, all right, We're gonna get

1030
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 5: into it. This is where I had to say.

1031
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 10: A multiple Grammy award winning artist with multiple number ones

1032
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 10: and multiple platinum plaques to be diamond plaque. The music

1033
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 10: industry is in complete shambles right now, and you can

1034
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 10: use that to your advantage. Back in the day, the

1035
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 10: music industry was very algorithmic, as any other industry was,

1036
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 10: but that industry was controlled to a certain extent. Now

1037
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 10: that we're in the digital streaming age, there is no

1038
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 10: control over the algorithm, and it is stressing people the

1039
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 10: fuck out self, concluded. Every major artist besides Beyonce has

1040
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 10: dropped music this year, or is planning to drop music

1041
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 10: this year, or has featured on somebody's record this year.

1042
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 10: I dropped a mixednape over the summer. I had Sisa

1043
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 10: and Doja Cat drop the deluxe to my mixtape today,

1044
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 10: and yet there are still people who don't even know

1045
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 10: I dropped music. Artist from Lady Gaga to Drake has

1046
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 10: dropped albums this year, and yet everyone is saying there's

1047
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 10: no song of the I'm going to be completely honest

1048
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 10: with you, guys, it's not because the music isn't incredible.

1049
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 10: It's because the way that the algorithm is set up,

1050
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 10: no one can serve the masses anymore. This industry used

1051
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 10: to be based on serving the masses, basically like servicing

1052
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 10: your song out to certain channels and certain radio stations.

1053
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 10: The internet space wasn't so congested. There was a clear

1054
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 10: channel back in the day for major artists to put

1055
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 10: their music out and serve the masses.

1056
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 5: Now you have to serve your people a few things.

1057
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 5: And I agree with her.

1058
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 4: I don't think there was a song of the Summer,

1059
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 4: by the way, in terms of mass consumption, mass popularity,

1060
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: and one across all genres, which if I go back

1061
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: to myself growing up, but hear me out back then

1062
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 4: we had I mean, and I'm gonna say top forty

1063
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 4: when we're talking about this, I don't want to lean

1064
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: into top song of the Summer for hip hop, song

1065
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: of the Summer for R and B, song of the

1066
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: summer for country. Growing up, Yeah, there used to be

1067
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 4: a song that it didn't matter if you were in

1068
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 4: a restaurant, if you were going shopping, if you were

1069
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 4: in your car. You heard it almost everywhere, right right

1070
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 4: or wrong. I don't believe that we had that record.

1071
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 4: This summer, we did not.

1072
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 5: And he's like, I don't know. I agree with her now,

1073
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 5: I do believe it's to the way that we consume

1074
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 5: the way that we consume music, the way we're able

1075
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 5: to find music, and the way we listen to a

1076
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,959
Speaker 5: song and then we're waiting for the next person to drop.

1077
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 5: We're not even like to me.

1078
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 4: One of the records that I wish did better that

1079
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 4: I think is phenomenal artistically, I think the video was dope.

1080
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 5: Is Zoja Cat's new record Jealous.

1081
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love it. I think she's a

1082
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: fucking puer artist. She's a pop star. It's great it

1083
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 4: didn't go.

1084
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: Glad that it couldn't go. It's just didn't.

1085
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 8: You mentioned back in the day how we consume music

1086
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 8: and how it's being pushed and how we're getting it

1087
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 8: as consumers is different from before we used to get

1088
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 8: the record from the radio outlets.

1089
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: Could we actually listen to the radio?

1090
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: Well no, it's not even gatekeeping as much as we're

1091
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 4: now listening to it now. Is like music discovery, Look

1092
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: all right, music not ready to come in.

1093
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: Scream in music Discovery.

1094
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 8: All of these different things kind of altered how we

1095
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 8: get that song of the Summer as opposed to what

1096
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 8: you said back in the day, right the metrics?

1097
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: Okay, So then let me ask you, let me let's

1098
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,479
Speaker 4: let me ask you and Jason before we get to Wayna,

1099
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 4: who want to to our asses out? What song do

1100
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 4: you think was song of the Summer? And Jason, I

1101
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 4: want you to answer if you think there was one,

1102
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 4: and if so, what it was.

1103
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 6: I don't think there was one, Okay, the closer, the

1104
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 6: closest there would be one. I think it's probably like

1105
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 6: a country artist, and I think people don't want to

1106
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 6: acknowledge it.

1107
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 5: Which which song?

1108
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 9: I can't remember it.

1109
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 6: It's like Morgan Wold would take mc craig, don't. It's

1110
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 6: not my bag. So I don't know the song. The

1111
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 6: song tight off the top, but it's it's.

1112
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 5: A song, okay and a king? What is your thoughts?

1113
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: So I guess I'm not gonna I'm not looking at

1114
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: the other genres. I'm speaking.

1115
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 4: You're gonna speak to urban Okay's pop, urban hip hop?

1116
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Right she is?

1117
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 8: That's what I'm thinking that she's speaking speaking to Okay,

1118
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 8: the metrics that we have, it's the charts. The metrics

1119
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 8: that we have is our here when you go to

1120
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 8: the supermarket.

1121
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 5: Or you go anywhere.

1122
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 8: What the intros of ESPN or you know one of

1123
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 8: the sports segments I listen, I think that's that contributed.

1124
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 5: What was the song of the summer.

1125
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 8: Based on the metrics, it's shaking based on the based

1126
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,959
Speaker 8: on the metrics I'm saying based on.

1127
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 5: I disagree.

1128
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 4: I think that was the spring. It wasn't a summer hit.

1129
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: And it's not the song that you heard when you

1130
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: went outside.

1131
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, way, no, no, no.

1132
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 7: First off, she kept saying matches, right, So I'm a

1133
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 7: person that I speak pretty literal. I wanted to look

1134
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 7: up the word masses here. We got coherent read it

1135
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 7: typically large body of matter with no no definite shape, right,

1136
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 7: A large number of people or objects crowded together, okay,

1137
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 7: assemble a cause to assemble into masks or one body.

1138
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 5: Okay, so we would say.

1139
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: You did that. We got to get back to that.

1140
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 5: Things.

1141
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 7: First of all, while all of us in here talking

1142
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 7: like record executives about metrics and fucking charts and all

1143
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 7: of that, when that's not why we like anything.

1144
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: We ever like.

1145
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 7: When I when when you was young, when I was young,

1146
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 7: when you was young, when you was young Jay. Did

1147
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 7: any of us know what the fuck dark and hell

1148
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 7: is hot soul?

1149
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: The first week? Did any of us know what get

1150
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 2: at Me Dog was doing on the charts?

1151
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean there was people who not in real time.

1152
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: About why No, yet you brought up numbers.

1153
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 5: And where we listened to everything.

1154
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't held, I don't bring that you did? I listen?

1155
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: So you telling me now the thing about Lizzo, love

1156
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: Lizzo and all that she old?

1157
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 12: What you mean she?

1158
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 8: Oh?

1159
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: No, listen, I'm keeping it.

1160
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm old old.

1161
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 9: Are you saying she's old because of what she's using?

1162
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 9: The judget by or.

1163
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: Just she's first of all, she used two things.

1164
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 5: She's thirty seven years old? She she oh.

1165
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: And she she got ten?

1166
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 7: Now all right, so you know what the song of

1167
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 7: the summer is, whim Whimmy Pluto.

1168
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: That's a dream dere said when Wimmy by Pluto. You

1169
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 2: listen what.

1170
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 9: You're saying hip hop?

1171
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: Hip hop?

1172
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 9: Are you saying like whim whimmy Pluto?

1173
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: You want to know why?

1174
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 7: Because when has what the charts have told us to

1175
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 7: determine what we see and feel? You could say, however

1176
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 7: you feel. You look at people who are consumed and

1177
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 7: consumed excuse me, consuming something massively right from all the

1178
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 7: all the kids that's running the ship up that them

1179
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 7: turned it into a hit from TikTok that's translated to

1180
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 7: where they had to play on radio, to where Morris

1181
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 7: Chestnut is using it for his fucking rials.

1182
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 5: I disagree.

1183
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: Wait a second, I'm not done.

1184
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 7: I let you say what you have to say, right,

1185
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 7: because what we determined, now that we're all old, were

1186
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 7: we determined for a fucking yo. Yeah, what we determined

1187
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 7: to hit is we start talking all this number ship

1188
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 7: and oh, well, you know it didn't reach top You

1189
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 7: said top forty.

1190
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: You said that I used that too, I said, you

1191
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: said top.

1192
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: I said we ain't. Never. We ain't never went the

1193
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: top forty. To tell us what was culturally impactful, never

1194
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: that song, that Pluto song, whim whimmy.

1195
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 7: Now, we also can't determine where we hear it at,

1196
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 7: because if I say I hear it, I could tell

1197
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 7: you one hundred places I heard that song at where

1198
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 7: you said you didn't.

1199
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 9: I'm yeah, that's part of that, But that's part of it.

1200
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 9: That's part of what you're supposed to do.

1201
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: I've been in fucking New York.

1202
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 7: I was in New York and they running that When

1203
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 7: I was in New York the last time, they was

1204
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 7: running that ship back to back to back. Every place

1205
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 7: that I've traveled this year, people have been running that song,

1206
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 7: not just kids.

1207
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: I was about to say, you hanging.

1208
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 5: Up TikTok like track stip.

1209
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 4: There's been a lot of songs that became hits from

1210
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 4: TikTok that I don't think ended up.

1211
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 5: They title like song of the song is the song?

1212
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: Listen if that it is that?

1213
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 5: I can't even that.

1214
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 7: It is just that sh it is just just as

1215
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 7: big as f n F was a couple of years ago.

1216
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 7: Now f n F was, Yes, it was, Yes, it

1217
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 7: is how f n F was big. You want to

1218
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 7: know why, because you old.

1219
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 5: No, I'll be with the young pitch.

1220
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: No, you don't have to. I don't have to be

1221
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: with them.

1222
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 7: You just gotta see the energy, if I'm telling you,

1223
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,479
Speaker 7: you just have to see the energy. If you start looking,

1224
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 7: and that's what I'm saying, you start talking in the numbers.

1225
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 7: Why did Lizell jump on the song? Why did she

1226
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 7: do a freestyle over the song?

1227
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: She's a fucking she. She started off a video. I've

1228
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: sold millions of records.

1229
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 7: I have number ones, I have number two, and.

1230
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: The why the fuck you jump on that song if

1231
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't the biggest song of the year. Tell me.

1232
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 6: So let me ask you a question. Though I agree

1233
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 6: way is it for like hip hop? But do you

1234
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 6: but do you agree that Commandy is point what she's

1235
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 6: saying out of all genres, Like.

1236
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: I don't listen to all genres, bro, I'm just keeping it.

1237
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 6: But my point is it'll come to you, like I

1238
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 6: don't listen to sabreing a carpenter, but that song came to.

1239
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 5: Me like that Espresso song was everywhere.

1240
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 9: It was just everywhere.

1241
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 6: So like I think when we're talking some of the summer,

1242
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 6: what Manny's saying is like that type of song is

1243
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 6: regardless of it's your genre.

1244
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 9: Now it comes to you because it's everywhere.

1245
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 2: And that's my thing.

1246
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 4: When Whammy is not being played, even though I used

1247
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 4: to talk about it right like like Migo's future like

1248
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 4: hip hop to how it's had like a cultural impact.

1249
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 4: I remember me and Crystal we were in Vegas. Nigga,

1250
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 4: you go to fine dining, you hear me, guess what

1251
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 4: they're playing fucking Migos future hip hop. The fact that

1252
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 4: when Whammy is a song that has not transcended from

1253
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 4: a from a global standpoint, from a super not even

1254
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 4: global in terms of like and we're talking about song

1255
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 4: of the Summer, you hear that ship everywhere when Whammy

1256
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 4: is not one of them.

1257
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 5: God damn Reppert record, I'm gonna hear I'm hearing migos.

1258
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: Maybe.

1259
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 8: How how are we listening differently from a demographic from

1260
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 8: let's say eighteen questions?

1261
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 2: We are old?

1262
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Ye old?

1263
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 8: Are we listening to our eighteen to twenty five? Listening

1264
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 8: to Spotify, Apple, all the streaming platforms. Are they just

1265
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 8: going merely to TikTok? Are we all listening the same way?

1266
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: Way? Because radio still exists. But I don't think the

1267
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: kids are listening.

1268
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 4: I'm not listening to radio, Like I don't have a card,

1269
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 4: sad part.

1270
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 5: I don't listen. I mean, I'm not on the radio.

1271
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: Told YouTube, So then this YouTube?

1272
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: How are you?

1273
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 5: How do you come to music now?

1274
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: Why?

1275
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 6: No?

1276
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: I don't even beat Yeah.

1277
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: No, no, I live on Spotify.

1278
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 9: That's a good question.

1279
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: So this is the thing.

1280
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 7: But I also and this is another point I wanted

1281
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 7: to make song of the Year of the summer means

1282
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 7: different things for different people. Chains and whips might be

1283
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 7: your song of the summer, you know what I mean.

1284
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 7: Like that might be your song of the summer. That

1285
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 7: might be within the in the world you live in,

1286
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 7: that might be all your niggas is bumping. Okay feel me,

1287
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying, Like the whim Wear Me song,

1288
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 7: I don't think that there's anybody in any age demographic

1289
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 7: that could say in hip hop, I can't speak.

1290
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: For all genres. Women is not gonna be. But that's

1291
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. That's why I'm saying.

1292
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 7: We having a crazy conversation, because when have we ever

1293
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 7: had a conversation about a hip hop song being the

1294
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 7: top song of everything? We don't have that last year,

1295
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 7: that that's an anomaly though, that's that's light No no, no,

1296
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 7: But but don't.

1297
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: You think it's a lightning about all?

1298
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 9: Almost every year for no, no, no, no, no, no no.

1299
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 7: No, because because don't because don't listen specifically, I don't

1300
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 7: even know the year what was the name of.

1301
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 2: By Chief Keith?

1302
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 7: Even if you do not listen to Chief Keith at all,

1303
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 7: you do not even like Chief Keith.

1304
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 2: You know Fanito and you know what's that of a song?

1305
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 2: Don't like?

1306
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 7: Righty them songs is not nominated for the Song of

1307
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 7: the Year. March Madness probably Future's biggest regular it's not

1308
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 7: nominated for.

1309
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:52,479
Speaker 2: So what are we talking about.

1310
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 4: We're not talking about nominations, but we are. What I'm

1311
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 4: saying where you're hearing you know what I'm saying.

1312
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 2: Is is it don't have to beat What I'm saying.

1313
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 7: The only point I'm making this it don't have to

1314
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 7: be considered for Grammy or any of that for it

1315
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 7: to be a song a song of the year. It

1316
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 7: don't have to be that. And and depending on who

1317
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 7: you are, it might be the new MF Doom song

1318
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 7: that's your song of the year. You know what I'm saying.

1319
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: Music is all subjective.

1320
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Speaker 7: So music if we're not talking like music executives and

1321
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 7: talking about charts and I don't give a fuck about

1322
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 7: no Charts.

1323
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 5: Day, but we're not in terms of in terms of

1324
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 5: previous years.

1325
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 4: Though we collectively have been able to say, Yo, this

1326
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 4: song we couldn't fucking get away from.

1327
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that about when.

1328
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: Whammy you oh yo, yo?

1329
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 6: Do you think even like because I hear what you're

1330
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 6: saying like this, culturally, we're not counting any of that stuff.

1331
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 9: Culturally, it's wam whammy.

1332
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 6: And then you said to the point like we're all

1333
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 6: having our own kind of song of the summer. Do

1334
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 6: you think it's even pointless because you talk you mentioned

1335
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 6: like ten minutes ago, you're talking about consumption and even

1336
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 6: when man they asked you like how you're listening to

1337
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 6: and not even like what platform you listen to.

1338
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 9: Music comes to us in all kinds.

1339
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: Of different ways.

1340
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 6: And then do you think, like the song of the

1341
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 6: summer trying to collectively group all these genres and all that,

1342
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 6: like it's just not even a second pointless conversation.

1343
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 7: I think because when we talk, like keep in mind,

1344
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 7: you know, when we're talking, we're talking from a perspective

1345
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 7: of hip hop culture.

1346
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: So unless we having a conversation about like.

1347
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 7: If hip hop culture is the most dominant this year,

1348
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 7: then I think that that doesn't matter if we're talking

1349
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 7: about what the song in the summer is, because I'm

1350
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 7: not looking for the white lady that shops at zels

1351
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 7: to know what when whammy is, Like you know.

1352
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 9: What I'm saying, I'm not looking it's crazy for.

1353
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 7: That ass though, I don't even know what, but that

1354
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 7: lady exists. I'm not looking for her to know what

1355
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 7: the song is, you know what I'm saying. I'm just

1356
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 7: saying for the space that we speaking in the space

1357
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 7: that we speaking, and we have to acknowledge when people

1358
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 7: is putting the work. And my only point, because Lizo

1359
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 7: said it, I do agree to fact. Listen, music is different,

1360
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 7: business wise, sound wise, identity wise is different. But there's

1361
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 7: a reason why you jumped on that girl song for free.

1362
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 7: You knew it was going to get you hot.

1363
00:56:59,239 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 5: But not only that.

1364
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 4: Let's talk about jumping on songs or jumping on even

1365
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 4: remixing right because we have everyone jumping on folded right now.

1366
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 4: We have everyone that dropped on the Chris Brown record

1367
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 4: with Bryson Tyler doing the dance and remixing it. They

1368
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 4: all did the same with Leon Thomas, like we got

1369
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: about fucking six different versions of it to where depending

1370
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 4: on what version come on, you'd be like, God, damn it,

1371
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: I didn't want this version. And so Lizzo jumping on

1372
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 4: this record doesn't even still necessarily make it that title

1373
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 4: of song of the Summer when it's what we're seeing done.

1374
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: People have done that people have done. No, but people

1375
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: have done that just the beginning of the time.

1376
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 7: People have always jumped on we're talking about listen, I'm

1377
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 7: just saying what she said. She talking yo, this girl

1378
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 7: and one Grammy's Yo. You know how hard it is

1379
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 7: to get a lizzle verse and it's very expensive.

1380
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: But look at the reason why she's speaking like this.

1381
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 8: She's speaking like this because no, not that the music

1382
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 8: is not good, but the way the business is business

1383
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 8: of music is right now, it's hard for her to

1384
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 8: get her music out to the audience that she's talking

1385
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 8: about because she's not she she wants her to do

1386
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 8: this case study.

1387
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: About the algorithm the song of the Summer.

1388
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 9: But is she saying is she's saying it's hard for people.

1389
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 6: I think she's saying her fans knew about it. I

1390
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 6: feel like she's saying, it's hard for me to.

1391
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: Know you got it because now you gotta listen.

1392
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 7: Remember what I said about you gotta be seeing fifteen

1393
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 7: times to be seen once. You want to know why?

1394
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 7: Because and I'm not even knocking her, she's motherfuck like Lizo.

1395
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 7: Ain't no push on Lizabeth. She's a fucking talent, one

1396
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 7: of the most talented artists we've seen in a long time.

1397
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 7: She not about to be doing twenty five things to

1398
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 7: put on ig or to put on her YouTube so

1399
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 7: that you could listen to her song. Because when she

1400
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 7: came in at twenty seventeen, she did not have to

1401
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 7: have to do it.

1402
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: That's the whole adjustment.

1403
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 7: I know we're gonna talk about Cardi B. You see,

1404
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 7: I'm listen. Cardi B is a multi platinum diamond artist.

1405
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 7: She fucking walking on the train doing all.

1406
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 5: Why do you so you think she's doing that because

1407
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 5: of where it's at?

1408
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: Do you not know already She's already He's already priming

1409
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: to do that.

1410
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 7: Cardi has a person People love her personality that's more

1411
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 7: than her music, if not just as much, for sure.

1412
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 7: But Cardi B has to She's in a place where

1413
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 7: she has to play this the ship you got to do.

1414
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 7: You have to be doing shit in order to be seen.

1415
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 7: People think contact mean create a dance for TikTok. That's

1416
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 7: not what content means. It means creating, like when you

1417
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 7: have a channel, right, Jay King, why do we sit

1418
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 7: on ESPN a day because they have twenty different shows,

1419
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 7: but they keep bringing it back to Sports Center and

1420
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 7: they have twenty different shows. But we'll sit and how

1421
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 7: many times has your woman be like, are.

1422
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: You watching this shit?

1423
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 7: But when people make channels, they don't understand that the

1424
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 7: channel is for you to do multiple things on.

1425
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: It's not just for your video no more.

1426
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 7: It's not just for you to say, hey, when I

1427
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 7: made this song, I was just in a certain type

1428
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 7: of mind space. No, nigga, we need fifty things from

1429
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 7: you so we could understand why we need to like

1430
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 7: it once and it's fucked up?

1431
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 5: But was it before? And is it?

1432
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 6: That?

1433
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: Is it?

1434
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 4: Because we now have it in our hands because did

1435
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 4: everyone Because everyone's also saying what Carty is doing is

1436
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 4: the old school way of rolling out, but you're saying

1437
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 4: it's the it's.

1438
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: No need to things. Is one of the same.

1439
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 7: It's one of the same because it ain't like everybody

1440
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 7: ain't have to do promo. But guess what, there is

1441
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 7: no radio personality for Cardi B to go sit with

1442
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 7: the promote her project that's gonna make people listen to

1443
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,959
Speaker 7: Italid Like even breakfast Club.

1444
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: It is not the same as it was before.

1445
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 7: Like if you had a good breakfast club interview, a

1446
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 7: good fucking song and you had like good marketing. You

1447
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 7: were selling, you're selling. That's not the way, no more.

1448
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 7: And you gotta go see hey, k you do you.

1449
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 5: Gotta you gotta go and eat change.

1450
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: On the streets doing Fantom podcast.

1451
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 5: I know she did. I can't. I can't wait to see.

1452
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: That both Dominican. It counts.

1453
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Phantom just did the GQ ship where

1454
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 4: he sat do you see the ship he did with GQ.

1455
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 4: He sat at the corner store the restaurant in New York.

1456
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 4: And when I say, I said, oh my god, I

1457
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 4: need all of this concept from him.

1458
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 5: I need more. Phantom is great. I hate that they

1459
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 5: fell out, but I.

1460
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,479
Speaker 1: Hate podcasting changed. How that even Beau, because you had.

1461
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 8: A time when on Combat Jackshaw, we would try to

1462
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 8: reshape how managers and a and rs would present the

1463
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 8: music because we were like, yo, can we play this

1464
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 8: like you can't play music and we want to talk

1465
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 8: and have the experience with.

1466
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: The said artists.

1467
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 8: So now I think radio adopted to that metric and

1468
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 8: you said, okay, yeah, we'll get to that, Mike, sure

1469
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 8: or whatever, but we want to get to the com

1470
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 8: We want to talk about the relationship.

1471
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: We want to talk about your mom and your daddy

1472
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: and was doing it.

1473
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 7: When y'all was doing it, we had to like that

1474
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 7: was the extra because every it was such a new

1475
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 7: thing when we was coming, Like when I had East

1476
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 7: and we was coming to Yard, it was such a

1477
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 7: new thing that it's like, bro, you have to get

1478
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 7: on this wave, right. It's like now if you do

1479
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 7: every radio show should be a stream about you want

1480
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 7: to know why, because yeah, all of that cool, I'm

1481
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 7: gonna be behind the scenes.

1482
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: Yo play too much.

1483
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: Effect not fact.

1484
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 7: But you see Playboy Cardi, he started that mysterious only

1485
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 7: one picture ship and then everybody tried to run with it.

1486
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 7: Everybody cannot do that. You have to be and people's

1487
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 7: hands to be seen, and you still have to do

1488
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 7: it at your discretion. Like the only thing that be

1489
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 7: messing me up with streaming Some days I just don't

1490
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 7: feel like doing it. I just spent an hour and

1491
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 7: a half in the gym and shot two episodes.

1492
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 5: Calls, and now I gotta get on stream.

1493
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 7: It's a lot, but you if you want to succeed

1494
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 7: in that space. So like with Cardi, I don't think

1495
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 7: Cardi is like you know how people say, oh, she

1496
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 7: sold her soul is some dumb shit. I don't think

1497
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 7: it's not like that. She's doing what she's comfortable with doing, and.

1498
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 4: Well, she's doing what's worked for her as well, it

1499
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 4: has she gotta You also have to look at Cardi

1500
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 4: b in the space of she is a superstar, and

1501
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 4: if a superstar is willing to stand on the train

1502
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 4: and play with her, her merchant say, yo, I got

1503
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: to do it.

1504
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: She's doing it as satire.

1505
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 7: Like yo, hey, y'all you know at Yeah, she's doing

1506
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 7: that because she has.

1507
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 5: But what about then?

1508
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 4: For the last ten years or so, and maybe only

1509
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 4: the last five, there's been a trend in the secret

1510
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 4: album drops that.

1511
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 5: Have worked for a lot of people to just.

1512
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: Beyonce did it, Drake did it, and you just got

1513
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 4: the secret something.

1514
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 6: I just want to always say, Beyonce did an album

1515
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 6: plus eighteen videos.

1516
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 5: She didn't do it.

1517
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't want.

1518
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 5: Two years to do You're right, You're right, you're right,

1519
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 5: you're right, you're right.

1520
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: Quiet. Have you seen yis the movie?

1521
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: No?

1522
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 4: Wait, okay, but I'm not gonna lie. No, No, I did,

1523
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 4: but Denzel, Yes, the worst Denzel movie I've ever seen.

1524
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 7: But I want you, Oh my secret album, The Secret album.

1525
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, like there's a there's there's been an a lord.

1526
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 4: Even when we talk about Kendrick, right, there's almost an

1527
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 4: allure about taking the time and and writes and something

1528
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 4: the same, Like, you know, he didn't like that he

1529
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 4: had to be in so many people's faces, but that's

1530
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 4: kind of what's required. But then we've also champion the

1531
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 4: artists that take their time. They're going be secret, they're

1532
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 4: going to be mysterious that then drop and they selling.

1533
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 7: Yes, But guess what y'all are talking about four percent

1534
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 7: of what this ship is.

1535
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 12: You said, listen, listen like you said, you said, you said,

1536
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 12: that's like that's like you're saying Michael Jordan, Lebron, James

1537
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 12: Kobe b Like that's.

1538
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: It's only it's only seven of these niggas like you.

1539
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 2: Everybody cannot do that.

1540
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 7: And the problem that the younger acts is having is

1541
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 7: that they think that their music is just.

1542
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 2: Enough now and it's not.

1543
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 7: These everybody we mentioned is ten plus year development acts.

1544
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 7: Every single one I've been in Sneak of Pimps, Kendrick Lamar,

1545
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 7: everybody put your hands up and everybody looked at this

1546
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 7: nigga like who is he?

1547
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 2: I didn't see all of them.

1548
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 7: So the new end this there's no music scenes, right,

1549
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 7: Like every city used to have like what was basically

1550
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 7: like an s ob as.

1551
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 2: A seed New York we had all well, but we don't.

1552
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 7: We don't even have it in New York because because

1553
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 7: because Drill coached and took over every single city to

1554
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 7: the point and youngs can't even come.

1555
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: They don't, they don't want to.

1556
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 5: They don't want them at the venues, they don't want

1557
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 5: them in the US.

1558
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 7: What I'm saying, it's like like, but if you you

1559
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 7: have to, you have to veer like you had to

1560
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 7: veer off in order to make your ship.

1561
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 4: It's crazy because you say, you say the Drill the

1562
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 4: Drill element in terms of its coach hip hop. But

1563
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 4: I've been having the same conversation behind the scenes with

1564
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 4: management and A and RS in R and B. In

1565
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 4: terms of A, everyone was banking on the festival, the

1566
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 4: festival bucks, right. Niggas didn't really want R and B

1567
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 4: at the festivals because niggas they going there, like you

1568
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 4: you got to hype up the crowds. You sitting here

1569
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 4: performing in front of thirty to fifty thousand people. The

1570
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 4: R and B X weren't getting that money. But then

1571
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 4: the R and B X also aren't being played in

1572
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 4: the clubs. It luckily they're playing being spun on radio,

1573
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 4: but it's not the same. But the conversation now about

1574
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 4: how and what to do with R and B X.

1575
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 4: They're not making money for the labels almost at all,

1576
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 4: and they were being dropped ship at the top at

1577
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 4: the end of last year. To now everyone that I

1578
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 4: know that was signed everybody independent.

1579
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 7: Now, I think it's because we have it's too Listen

1580
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 7: this nigga Thanos was right, Bro, we got too much

1581
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 7: at everything. No for it don't make us appreciate nothing.

1582
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 7: We have too much of everything. It's like, like you

1583
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 7: see what you said about R and B. It's not

1584
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 7: that people ain't putting out good ARM and B because

1585
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 7: it's good arms. It's just that everything everybody's trying to

1586
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 7: blur everything to where it's like, no, this should be

1587
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 7: just R and B festivals. That's target that demographic for

1588
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 7: people that just want to see that. And it can't

1589
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 7: be as big as a Roland Loud because because if

1590
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 7: I if I'm again, i am old, I'm the people

1591
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 7: that go to rolland Loud.

1592
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: They are my kids.

1593
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 7: Go to Roland, they going to get no for real,

1594
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 7: they going to get vibe.

1595
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: They not trying to see is sitting there singing and

1596
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 2: all that. But there are people who do.

1597
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 7: They have not created a platform for that because everybody

1598
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 7: just wants everything to be one thing, because we have

1599
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 7: too much of everything. We haven't too much like Yo,

1600
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 7: Maria is scientist. That song burning, Oh my God, so good?

1601
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 7: That song that you know, I said, that's I kid,

1602
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 7: you know, I said, I was saying this to my

1603
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 7: I was saying it, was saying, this is my daughter.

1604
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:22,479
Speaker 2: I was saying this to somebody else.

1605
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 7: If you're a man and you want to hear an

1606
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 7: R and B song, no matter how many times, you

1607
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 7: got something special, that song.

1608
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 5: That's so good, so good.

1609
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 2: But I'm sorry I got people keep telling me about

1610
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: I don't listen to rady. I only listen to radio.

1611
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 2: You and time you heard, I'm gonna listen to it.

1612
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what happened. I didn't know that

1613
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: was part.

1614
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 9: It's just it's too much.

1615
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 6: I can't I can't really listen to R and B

1616
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 6: that much anymore because I'm trying to keep up with

1617
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 6: hip hop.

1618
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: I would get my hair braided right too much everything.

1619
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 8: My hair braid is huge, R and B head and

1620
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 8: I'm like, my head is back and my eyes is

1621
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 8: closed and I'm like, who the fuck is that?

1622
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: And I look and you gotta get it's by.

1623
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 8: Mariah, So I said, who is that? I thought it

1624
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 8: was Marija's. She's like, that's Kilanie, I said, And I'm

1625
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 8: looking at it.

1626
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:18,440
Speaker 5: I'm like, Kilanie got got that one? What got that one? Visually? Sonically?

1627
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 2: Like?

1628
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 7: But I'm just saying it's right now. We just have

1629
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 7: too much action. And that's why I feel like I just.

1630
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 4: Say when people say that, because they kind of say

1631
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 4: that about medium podcasting, satrated, I believe it's too much.

1632
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 7: Yes'm I'm gonna tell you why.

1633
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 1: This goes back to the I used to say this.

1634
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: He's always encouraged niggas. Why don't you jumping there? I

1635
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 1: want to y'all do it? And I'm like, why you

1636
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: keep telling these niggas it's too much? Too much? Then?

1637
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 8: And I only said that because I saw what was

1638
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 8: gonna happen with the rappers. I said, these rappers are

1639
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 8: not gonna be good anymore. They're gonna want to talk

1640
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 8: and look. But everybody, and they don't do it long enough.

1641
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 8: You see them do four five episode done.

1642
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: Because people because people is not serious about it. See,

1643
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 2: this is the thing.

1644
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 7: The first thing that people start saying about something new

1645
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 7: to do is how much money you can make? That's

1646
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 7: the time about it. They're not looking at it. And

1647
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 7: I'm just I'm gonna.

1648
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 5: It took me a year and a half.

1649
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna jump my.

1650
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 7: Own I'm gonna toot my own horn because because just

1651
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 7: doing YouTube content, yo, me being way o and having

1652
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 7: one hundreds something thousand followers on i G and a

1653
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 7: nice follow on Twitter was not enough, yo, Like it

1654
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 7: was not enough. It's because YouTube is its own community.

1655
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 7: So at first I put myself on a schedule three

1656
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 7: times a week. You have to, and but even the

1657
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 7: three times a week wasn't enough. But I had to

1658
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 7: get better at what it was I was doing. And

1659
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 7: I had to say, all right, I can't just be

1660
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,919
Speaker 7: up here talking. We are in a time where everybody

1661
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 7: just talking about anything and everything and they not putting

1662
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 7: no yes something yes, even if if you're.

1663
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: Talking about sex, it could be about sex. Just have

1664
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: some substance and sex.

1665
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 5: I have substance time.

1666
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 7: But that's why you are in a small percentage of

1667
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 7: the people where you are.

1668
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 5: But I like what you said too.

1669
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 4: In terms of even what I'm seeing musically happen, people

1670
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 4: care about numbers, right. People are getting signed because they

1671
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 4: have these millions of followers or even a good amount

1672
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 4: of followers. Tiana Taylor love her to death. Her project

1673
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 4: is a little too bogey for me, but I love

1674
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 4: her music.

1675
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 2: What you know, but I love.

1676
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 4: Jianna Taylor has eighteen point two million followers, sold sixteen

1677
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 4: k her first her first week, and not to get

1678
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 4: metrics and all those things doesn't matter.

1679
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I'm let finish.

1680
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 4: What I was gonna say is what I was leaning

1681
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 4: back into what Wayno had to say right in terms

1682
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 4: of you have all these followers here, You have all

1683
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 4: these followers here, but can you get them to go

1684
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 4: somewhere else and either purchase or by And that's what

1685
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 4: I think too. People are are are not in terms

1686
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 4: of I know albums, albums, I know tours that were canceled.

1687
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 4: I know people who said they were doing one thing

1688
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 4: and weren't doing it. I think there's a difference too

1689
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 4: that people aren't considering you can have people listen to

1690
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 4: your song from TikTok Er because it gets played, But

1691
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 4: do you have the buying power? Do you have people

1692
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 4: that are actually gonna go out and get your record

1693
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 4: and get your album and download it. That's why I

1694
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 4: love what Cardi and those are doing with the vinyls.

1695
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 4: There's hard cover things like all of those things you have.

1696
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:16,879
Speaker 2: To do with Tiana.

1697
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 7: Keep in mind, right, like a lot of these people

1698
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 7: that we mentioned in they don't have the same they

1699
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 7: don't have the same infrastructure that they once had. Tiana

1700
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 7: got a lot of things going on at one time.

1701
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 7: She's creative directing people's tours, She's she's acting and filmed,

1702
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 7: she's doing she's dating Mufassa.

1703
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 5: She's doing a lot of.

1704
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 7: Things and and and she doesn't have that Like before

1705
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 7: Tiana could just focus on the promo run. Valid she

1706
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 7: don't have the time to just focus on the promo

1707
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 7: run like and I'm not this is not that's the

1708
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 7: syst long. I didn't even know that she had a

1709
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 7: project out. But that's because dam you ain't know about

1710
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 7: Escape Row. I don't know about this. I be in

1711
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 7: the crib, I be watering, I be pressure washing my house.

1712
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 2: Like, that's what It's.

1713
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 5: Funny you said that, because it's same with Sierra I was.

1714
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 4: I was talking about having here on and my friend

1715
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 4: was like, well, what y'all gonna talk about Russell?

1716
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, she got a whole album, she

1717
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: just drops.

1718
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do.

1719
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: You know, but even when it comes to the metrics,

1720
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: But even when it comes to the metrics.

1721
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 9: I was about to say, way, don't tell me about it.

1722
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 7: But even when it comes to the metrics, though, the

1723
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 7: metrics need to change because listen, my favorite albums I've

1724
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 7: ever bought in my life, whether that was Big Time

1725
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 7: as I got that work right, Okay, I don't think

1726
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 7: I've listened to that album twenty five hundred and fifty

1727
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 7: times to count it as one self.

1728
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1729
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 2: And I love that.

1730
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 7: Album Lil Wayne, or let's say jay Z Blueprinter. I

1731
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 7: bought these albums for ten dollars. I don't know if

1732
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 7: I've listened to them albums seventeen hundred times.

1733
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: You have to listen to something that many times and

1734
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 2: for it the count is one.

1735
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 5: I can't remember.

1736
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 4: I can't remember what streaming. Not only that, I can't

1737
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 4: I can't remember what artists said it. It's maybe why Tiana,

1738
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 4: as a musician of beautiful dope boys dope artists, has

1739
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 4: to do all these other things. There was someone on

1740
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 4: an interview I can't remember which podcast, but literally just

1741
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 4: said one million streams count as four thousand dollars. Like

1742
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 4: for the artists, they're seeing four thousand dollars off of

1743
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 4: a million streams.

1744
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 2: It's a Ponzi scheme.

1745
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 5: It is.

1746
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: It isn't because who said the parameters.

1747
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: But the money. But the money is still made. But

1748
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 2: that's another thing.

1749
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 7: That's another miscon And I could just speak to this

1750
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 7: as a music executive, because people think that like sales

1751
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 7: is the only way to make money off for music,

1752
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 7: and it's not.

1753
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: It's you can make like a person sells.

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01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 7: Let's say they get a lot of promotion, they sell

1755
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 7: fifty thousand equivalent units from their streaming. They'd be like, oh,

1756
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 7: that ain't shit. They ain't sell nothing. Guess what they

1757
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 7: might have had four or five sinks on that album,

1758
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 7: four or five or six sinks that made the album

1759
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 7: the money they spent to make that album back. So

1760
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 7: it's mad ways that these companies are monetizing the music

1761
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 7: The only problem is that we do not have like

1762
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 7: people becoming stars because everybody he looked the same.

1763
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 2: Everybody got the same chain, the same car, the same clothes,

1764
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 2: the same girlfriends. The girls got the same clothes. They

1765
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: can buy it the same body. Yo. We have too much.

1766
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 2: We have way too much.

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01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 7: And that's why nobody appreciatesh it because everybody got the

1768
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 7: same thing.

1769
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 2: Yo. We could see a Lambert. We could see the

1770
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 2: top Lamborghini.

1771
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 7: Pull up in the parking lot right now, and nobody's

1772
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 7: gonna say wow. You want to why because the streamer has.

1773
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 5: Because we've been seeing the lamb.

1774
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: And I'm not hating streamers because I loved it.

1775
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 7: I would have been a streamer like you got them

1776
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 7: when I was you you gotta do stream But I'm saying,

1777
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 7: like the ship that.

1778
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: The old Absolutely no, I want to be a no,

1779
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: don't say that. I hate that term.

1780
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 9: Go ahead, do you so like you know how like

1781
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 9: from music?

1782
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,759
Speaker 6: Like you said, for metrics, it's always like albums sold

1783
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 6: from movies, box office from movies, not different.

1784
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 9: You know, it's revenue.

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 6: Do you think what when you say, like we need

1786
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 6: a new metrics, do you think it was something like

1787
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 6: revenue where the star and you can sell albums and

1788
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,839
Speaker 6: stream albums and do merch like it should be your revenue.

1789
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 6: And that way, maybe there's more transparency about how much

1790
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 6: bread gets made, how it gets the artist.

1791
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 7: I don't know what it's going to be, but I

1792
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 7: just think that the problem, BRO, is that we had

1793
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 7: we in people business too much. Like I shouldn't know,

1794
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 7: like Bro, Netflix, I don't know what a Netflix movie streams.

1795
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to look at us.

1796
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 6: I don't like a Disney Plus it's just.

1797
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what its streams.

1798
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 7: And that I don't know if the movie flopped, if

1799
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 7: they put out your we see Robert de Narrow put

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01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 7: out a new movie on Netflix.

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01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if the movie flopped or not.

1802
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 7: I just know if I like it or not, because

1803
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 7: what it does business wise is not my business. But

1804
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 7: we just in a time where everybody wants to know

1805
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 7: somebody's net worth. They want to know what they sold.

1806
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 7: But because but but because guess what, because the person

1807
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,759
Speaker 7: who's I know your salary.

1808
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 2: Every time you miss a shot, I'm basing how I

1809
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 2: feel on you because I'm that much.

1810
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 7: But I don't know if I walk into Bro I

1811
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 7: just I'm a drift off for one second. But it's

1812
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 7: like my son had a job interview. He told the

1813
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 7: people that he didn't want the job because they was

1814
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 7: paying certain amount of money. He want a certain amount

1815
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 7: of money, I said them. I said, niggas you even

1816
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 7: worth the amount of money you asked or for real.

1817
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 7: But but that's the thing. But he wanted that number

1818
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 7: based on the number.

1819
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 2: That he heard people say. We are in people's business

1820
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: too much.

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01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 7: Even with the sales and all of that, like I

1822
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 7: get it, gold, platinum, They're all like achievements, so we

1823
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 7: want to celebrate, but we are so fucking nosy.

1824
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. Bro. It's like somebody be like yo with

1825
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: its soul or that shit must be trying.

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01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 8: I remember during the pandemic I was on I was

1827
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 8: on chatty house.

1828
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, oh yeah, ago, and then it was

1829
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: like something.

1830
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 8: Had came out and they were like, oh but that

1831
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 8: I heard that shit ain't do too good.

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01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, did you You didn't even listen

1833
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: to it. I'm like, how do you feel about this?

1834
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 4: The conversation we just had when Ishan Bari were up here,

1835
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 4: The way that people don't even have the capacity comprehension.

1836
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 4: They don't even have the capacity to inform their own

1837
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 4: opinions because they refuse to just take the time to

1838
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 4: go listen, actually something crap their own opinion. It's easier

1839
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 4: for them to get on the timeline, see what numbers are,

1840
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,799
Speaker 4: see what everyone else is saying, and then.

1841
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 9: Just jump to the Do you think that's because there's

1842
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 9: too much?

1843
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but numbers don't.

1844
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 7: The thing about I understand numbers, but they don't they

1845
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 7: don't tell a story right like me currently. And I

1846
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 7: learned this from Westside Gun. West Side Gun don't sell

1847
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 7: a lot of records, but I'd be damn if that

1848
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 7: in the game. Rich Out is a and he taught

1849
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 7: and he taught me so for myself, even with doing media,

1850
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 7: I was like, yo, I don't care if I get

1851
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 7: an episode that do a million views. I want to

1852
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 7: sell four thousand T shirts because because a million view.

1853
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 7: If I if I got a twenty minute episode with

1854
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 7: that that does a million views, it's gonna make me

1855
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 7: some money.

1856
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie. You know who else do that?

1857
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 5: Larry June?

1858
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 4: But I know a lot of people When I bring

1859
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 4: up Larry June, the masters might not know who Larry

1860
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 4: June is, but he's rich.

1861
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 7: But because we culturally, culturally see the thing about it

1862
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 7: was like we used to celebrate somebody's success based on

1863
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 7: their achievements because of the craft, because of the music,

1864
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 7: because we like the music.

1865
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 2: Now it's their accolades.

1866
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 7: A motherfucker can have a house that got five five bedrooms, right,

1867
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 7: which is not average. If you if you, if you

1868
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 7: have a five thousand dollars rolex, regardless of what she said,

1869
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 7: you're not average.

1870
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: It's not average.

1871
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: Right.

1872
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 7: But then a person said, and I read this in

1873
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 7: a book, The Way to a Meaningful Life. I got

1874
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 7: my TV gotta be bigger than yours, my car gotta

1875
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 7: be faster. That's how people have lost their way because

1876
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 7: we too nosy. We want to be in everybody business

1877
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 7: and not concern with our own. That's why we can't.

1878
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna say we can't because I got some

1879
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 7: wheel finish. But that's why people can't really even lean

1880
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 7: into their own things, because they're so.

1881
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 5: Concernable with watching everybody going on and doing.

1882
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 7: And it's affecting us. And that's why I be done

1883
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 7: with the music.

1884
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 4: Let me ask you from maybe not from a media perspective,

1885
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 4: only because I like to know in terms of what

1886
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 4: they put out. You could you could do metrics, you

1887
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 4: could do impact, you could do cultural conversations. Who then,

1888
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 4: right now is the top five artists, the biggest artist.

1889
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: The biggest artist, And what do you mean?

1890
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 5: I mean in our culture, in our culture, which isn't

1891
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 5: just hip hop. Yes, no, it's not, because I think

1892
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 5: we have.

1893
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 1: Is of everything else though.

1894
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not talking. I cannot tell you who the

1895
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: top five is.

1896
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 5: No, no, no, like the top five is like culture, like

1897
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 5: the urban cult.

1898
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 7: Currently right now, urban culture, as far as like notoriety big.

1899
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 7: I mean, yes, cultural impact, as much as I might

1900
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 7: not do as much as I is criteria, but as

1901
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 7: much as I might not agree with him, Drake still

1902
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 7: like he's still a big artist. I say, Kendrick Drake

1903
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 7: number one to I wouldn't say Drake number one. I mean,

1904
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 7: because I'm not basing it if I can't base it

1905
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 7: purely awful with somebody strict, because that's what people base everything.

1906
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 5: We're not. I say just cultural impact, cultural biggest stars.

1907
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 7: Right now right now, I say cultural impact be Kendrick

1908
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 7: Kendrick within the past year, like and currently right now,

1909
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 7: number two Drake still Drake is still.

1910
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 2: I don't give you like he's still one of them ones,

1911
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 2: like you you know what I mean?

1912
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 5: Okay? Number three?

1913
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 2: Three? Should I say scissor?

1914
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:15,879
Speaker 5: Okay?

1915
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: I say scissor okay? I say for future? Oh no, yes?

1916
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: What?

1917
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 7: No?

1918
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 2: Future has more number one albums than.

1919
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 4: M Okay Today down Okayumber and number five I don't.

1920
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 2: Even know because I don't do listen to all that ship.

1921
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: I don't even know. Like they have were talking about

1922
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: only artists. Yeah, oh wow.

1923
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 9: Who are you gonna say?

1924
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say not, oh no for sure, but.

1925
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: Speed.

1926
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 7: I was gonna say speed speed, Okay, them kids is amazing.

1927
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 5: Who would be your five musically?

1928
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 1: Though?

1929
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 7: I don't know, yo, because I don't know what the

1930
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 7: criteria is for that criteria, I don't have a crowd.

1931
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 7: I don't know, because that's for me to pick five.

1932
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 7: I gotta think of seven things.

1933
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 8: Right now to pick the fifth person, Like who's your

1934
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 8: personal top five right now?

1935
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 5: I mean the fact that Chris Brown has to be

1936
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 5: in there, Chris, He's.

1937
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 7: Doing stadium, this is your personal I would say, yeah,

1938
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 7: I would say Chris Brown.

1939
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 5: I would say Chris Brown finish.

1940
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna tell you something about these lists.

1941
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 4: Okay, I know you always say personal.

1942
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would do.

1943
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 4: I would say Chris Brown probably number one. Then Ken Drake,

1944
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 4: gotta put Drake Cardi.

1945
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Playbook no no no.

1946
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 5: Cardi b what he said that.

1947
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: Playboy you old?

1948
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 5: No no no. Then let me let me think my

1949
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 5: number five, my number five.

1950
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 1: We officially the ends the facts.

1951
01:21:55,000 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 5: No for real, bro our culture number five, Damn, I

1952
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 5: don't even.

1953
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 4: I just gotta throw it in there because she's changing

1954
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 4: the way. No, no, I'm not delusional.

1955
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 5: I would say Beyonce. I gotta throw her in there.

1956
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 4: She just did two or three stadium towards, back to

1957
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 4: back to back to back to back, and in terms

1958
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 4: of urban impact, she's changing nominations in the Grammies because

1959
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 4: she's taking over her whole other genres and ship.

1960
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 5: So I would say, I would say Beyonce and that

1961
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 5: would be my five and said that you.

1962
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 7: Act like that, but Playbook Cardi though, because she don't

1963
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 7: be doing I mean, they was.

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01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: They were still, they were still.

1965
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 4: I like, let me, let me, let me take off,

1966
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 4: let me take off Beyonce, and we're leaning into culture

1967
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 4: because again, Beyonce transcends it. She's a superstar, right, she's

1968
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Speaker 4: holy girl, young boy and be a young boy.

1969
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 2: And what he's doing. This is why I hate list.

1970
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 7: But that's why you go ahead, because they just they

1971
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 7: just devisive, yo, Like this is all this is all

1972
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 7: personal preference. But they run, they run like these they

1973
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 7: run these conversations on the internet where we cannot really

1974
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 7: appreciate what's happening culturally in this totality because minds is

1975
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 7: better than yours. It's gonna be specifically about you in

1976
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 7: general general people. And I mean it's not like it

1977
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 7: wasn't happening. I didn't literally seen friends fall like when

1978
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 7: Tupaca VIGGI was going through it.

1979
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: I've seen so many friends fall out with one another.

1980
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 7: But I'm just saying, it's like these lists is all

1981
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 7: divisive to black culture.

1982
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying is because we don't You.

1983
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 5: Don't think they have lists in white culture.

1984
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,799
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm not saying that they don't have lists.

1985
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 2: I know how. I don't know how they react.

1986
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 7: To the because I know, punch you in your mouth

1987
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 7: if you say that somebody not top three.

1988
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: That's why I do know you know what I'm saying.

1989
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 8: So I'm just saying that these lists, Oh my.

1990
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 7: God, what Bro, I'm just saying is that like these lists,

1991
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 7: they just become there's no there's no there's.

1992
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 2: No award for it, there's no real These lists are black.

1993
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1994
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 7: But but it's like it's like Mount like people be

1995
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 7: like Mount Rushmore and then then the Mount.

1996
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 2: Rushmore turning the twelve niggas. It's like, you can't even bro,

1997
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: It's only.

1998
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 7: Mount Rushmore was only a marketing tool. It wasn't really

1999
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 7: your brotherish it was even built for people.

2000
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: That was the best? Wa?

2001
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 5: Wait what was the market in two of them?

2002
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 6: It was only supposed to be three Wait wait what's

2003
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 6: the best?

2004
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they messed up, had to put another one on mess.

2005
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying.

2006
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 7: We don't even be knowing what we be looking about

2007
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 7: this not even Mount rush was not even our coaches, Bro,

2008
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 7: I swear, I'm telling you.

2009
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 5: Wait wait why did they add for?

2010
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: Wait?

2011
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 5: What is I like the story?

2012
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 7: Look, don't listen, I'm not gonna say it very beat him.

2013
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 2: I looked it up one day because I one day.

2014
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: Whoever was watching, don't judge.

2015
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 7: I don't know all that, but I looked it up

2016
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 7: because I was just like, what was the Mount Rushmore for?

2017
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: Right?

2018
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 7: And he said that this artist like he did it

2019
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 7: because he just wanted to show hot, Like he basically

2020
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 7: wanted to show how nice he was with the ship.

2021
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,560
Speaker 2: That ass. He basically wanted to try how nice he

2022
01:24:58,680 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 2: was with the ship.

2023
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 7: And it wasn't like, oh, I'm gonna put the best

2024
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 7: like I'm gonna I'm gonna make it as this is

2025
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 7: the best, and it's gonna define times of how.

2026
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: People consider who's the best.

2027
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 7: As therefore, he just did it, and then they needed

2028
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:10,759
Speaker 7: to put somebody else in wait.

2029
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 4: So.

2030
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 7: Give myself at eight point five.

2031
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 9: He's a foreign sculpture.

2032
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 6: He got hired to do the job, and so you

2033
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 6: know they specifically picked like the first two, right, and

2034
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 6: then the third one.

2035
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 9: You know, they were like, all right, we need more.

2036
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 6: They do the third and so the way he wanted

2037
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 6: to put it, he kind of like messed up the

2038
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 6: way he started it. So that's why there's like that

2039
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 6: one that's kind of facing off because he did that.

2040
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 6: And so then they had to squeeze the fourth ones back.

2041
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 6: That fourth one paused the head is too small, so

2042
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 6: that's why.

2043
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 9: That's why there's four now?

2044
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 5: What is think about? Who determined who these people was?

2045
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 5: Is what I'm saying.

2046
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 7: I just feel like I get lists, you know what

2047
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 7: I'm saying. I just like I'm a point where I'd

2048
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 7: be like, man, who cares?

2049
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 6: Bro?

2050
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 4: What is your overall outside of I mean, what I

2051
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 4: get from you is that it's over oversaturated essentially is

2052
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 4: what you keep coming back to. But where do you think, then,

2053
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 4: overall we currently are. I know we didn't really lean

2054
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 4: into what's happening with the radio and the payola, but

2055
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 4: that's a tell is all ast time that now is

2056
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 4: possibly you know, catching up to everyone. I mean me

2057
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 4: and me and a King were talking about this off air.

2058
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 4: We don't think fans is gonna be involved, Like there's

2059
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 4: a way. I'm sure they're funneling it, doing all the

2060
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 4: things to make it make sense. But where do you

2061
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 4: think we are then currently with the state of our

2062
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 4: culture in.

2063
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 5: Terms of music?

2064
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 7: I think in music, I ain't gonna lie. I think

2065
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 7: it's a great time. Okay, I'm gonna tell I think

2066
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 7: it's a very very great time. Because if you will

2067
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 7: lose because not the artist, yes, for artists, I'm gonna

2068
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:43,840
Speaker 7: tell you even.

2069
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 5: Though they're not making money.

2070
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 2: Hold on making money is subjective.

2071
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 7: Listen, don't here we go want me to start talking

2072
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 7: about contracts and all of that, because when you start

2073
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 7: talking about contracts and what people agree to when you

2074
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 7: sign a deal, it's not just your deal. When you

2075
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 7: sign a deal, it's not just your deal. It's a

2076
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 7: deal for both parties. I give you money if I

2077
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 7: tell you could live in my house, but under these

2078
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 7: certain certain circumstances, and you say yes, and then the

2079
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 7: job becomes too hard.

2080
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: Nigga, I still want what I want. I know that's

2081
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 2: right now.

2082
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 7: And I'm not pro label, and I'm not pro label,

2083
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 7: but I'm not I'm not against artists now.

2084
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: I agree that people.

2085
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 7: I think there's not enough artists that understand their business

2086
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 7: like they understand your way.

2087
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 2: How much money you got?

2088
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 7: I used to tell artists like, yo, listen, I'm gonna

2089
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 7: give you a deal that when you start out, we're

2090
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 7: giving you X amount of dollars, but your your masters

2091
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 7: will revert to you after this amount.

2092
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: Of time out of the be like wait, how much money?

2093
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 2: You said? Only one hundred thousand. Now let me go

2094
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 2: talk to somebody that got a million.

2095
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: Not even talking about the masters amount of time.

2096
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 2: They talking about what they could get at the moment.

2097
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 7: So they'll sign. Listen, they'll say a million. The lawyer

2098
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 7: is explaining to you, Yo, this is what it means.

2099
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 7: This is what it means.

2100
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 2: This is what they mean. Whatever with a million? Are

2101
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 2: they get the million?

2102
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 7: And then once they don't uphold they wanted the bargain,

2103
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 7: you get me, They're like, oh my god, everybody.

2104
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 1: Took advantage of me.

2105
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 5: I didn't.

2106
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 7: The lawyer didn't tell me nothing, My manager didn't tell

2107
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 7: me nothing. Everybody left me alone. The money's going on.

2108
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 2: That's a whole nother convo.

2109
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:06,879
Speaker 7: Where music is good currently right now is because direct

2110
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 7: to consumer and this is what this is the approach

2111
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 7: that the majors is trying to take, which I ain't

2112
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 7: gonna front. Working in music in the past ten years, professionally,

2113
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 7: they was really pushing. A lot of the labels was

2114
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 7: pushing that, but artists wasn't with it. But Cardi B

2115
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,839
Speaker 7: was doing that's director consumer engagement. I think it's perfect

2116
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 7: for people who want to do the work. And you think,

2117
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 7: if you think, yo, I just did a fire song,

2118
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 7: put my shit out, give me a rap caviar, Get

2119
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 7: me a YouTube, billboard, give me this, give me that,

2120
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 7: give me whatever.

2121
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be straight. If you think that's how it works,

2122
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: it's horrible for you.

2123
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 7: If you understand that I need to get up and

2124
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 7: I need to work every single day. Brother, when I

2125
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 7: was working at Rockefeller, we was on the roll with

2126
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 7: the young Guns.

2127
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 2: We was in the radio every yo. We go to sleep.

2128
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 7: We have to go to sleep at eleven o'clock because

2129
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 7: we have to get up early six o'clock in the stake.

2130
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 2: And I'm going to the next place, be at the

2131
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: radio doing me in Greek.

2132
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: And probably with different.

2133
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:06,759
Speaker 7: And that what I'm saying, your access as fucked people

2134
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 7: up because now I don't got to do that. I

2135
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 7: could just make money off a TikTok so that that

2136
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 7: rapper that's making thirty kick that like why I'm doing that?

2137
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 7: What I need to do that for it? And then

2138
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 7: when people not into your music, then you're like, y'all know,

2139
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 7: if you are artists that you want to do the work,

2140
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 7: it is a perfect time. But you have to have

2141
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 7: some sort of identity. You have to stand for something,

2142
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 7: even if you stand for bullshit. If you a street

2143
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 7: nigga and you stand on stupid ass street principles. Just

2144
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 7: say that and lean into it and say this is

2145
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 7: what I stand for, so people understand who they dealing with.

2146
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 4: This is this is this same literal advice. Is what

2147
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 4: I say to people that want to be podcasts.

2148
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah you gotta.

2149
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 5: You could. You could have the funniest jokes, You could

2150
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 5: be the best on the mic.

2151
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 4: If you're not willing to learn everything that happens to

2152
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 4: go behind it, if you're not willing to really do

2153
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 4: the work, if you're not willing to be consistent, if

2154
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 4: you're not willing to really like say, at this whether

2155
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 4: money is coming in or not. If you're not willing

2156
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 4: to grow an audience organically, it's not gonna work.

2157
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 5: You're not I'm gonna be able to be here ten

2158
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 5: years later.

2159
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 2: But that's the thing. People just trying to hit the lick.

2160
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 2: So yo.

2161
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 7: I'll tell you you know, I was working at QC

2162
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 7: for three and a half years.

2163
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 2: You know how many people went came.

2164
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 7: Past my I could have signed everybody, and a lot

2165
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 7: of them went and signed a million dollar deals. You

2166
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 7: never even heard of these kids for real, never even

2167
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 7: heard of them. You want to know why though, because

2168
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 7: they wasn't doing they weren't willing to do. It wasn't

2169
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 7: just that it's that we were rewarding anything. It's too

2170
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 7: much money they give you, not giving people the chance

2171
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 7: to earn their money. Like I had a I tried

2172
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 7: to structure a deal with I feel like this, if

2173
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give you a million dollars, all right, cool,

2174
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 7: let's give you a million dollar deal.

2175
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 2: Let your first the first project.

2176
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 7: Our benchmark need to be X amount of numbers we

2177
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:38,759
Speaker 7: need to hit so that we could make us some money.

2178
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 7: You get this check when we get to the next one.

2179
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 7: Then you get the next check when we get to

2180
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 7: let's do it like that. Niggas like because they don't

2181
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 7: want to even have a career.

2182
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 2: They just want what they want right now. And that's

2183
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 2: the problem that we have.

2184
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 7: People think that they are artists now niggas is just

2185
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 7: money hungry people that got lucky rhyming.

2186
01:30:56,439 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

2187
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:58,759
Speaker 1: A lot of people do that. They have the incentive

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Speaker 1: base deals.

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Speaker 8: If you if you make the Pro Bowl, this trigger

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Speaker 8: is this incentive and you get this this big ass bonus.

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Speaker 4: It's funny because in terms of even basketball players getting

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Speaker 4: into the podcast space. That was the conversation with a

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Speaker 4: lot of people too, like Kenya lou Will, like they

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Speaker 4: came in, they have a talent, they got paid to

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Speaker 4: check out the gate.

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Speaker 5: This podcast shit is different.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're not gonna be able to just sit

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Speaker 4: here and get a six figure, seven figure.

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Speaker 5: Deal because of who you are or you're talent on

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Speaker 5: the mic. You gotta prove that people.

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Speaker 2: Want to listen to Manny.

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Speaker 7: Look even if you can, because there also now we

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Speaker 7: know it's some people that do get the deal. Now

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Speaker 7: they do even at the point, I just feel like

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Speaker 7: if even at the point if you get a podcast

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Speaker 7: deal and a slot of money, uphold you into the

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Speaker 7: bargain for sure, like uphold your end of the bargain,

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Speaker 7: do the fucking work, Like don't.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, uh who is it? Kim k Michelle Obaumam.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that sucked that up for

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Speaker 4: us too, a lot of a lot of really big

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Speaker 4: names got them bags from the Spotify, got them bags

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Speaker 4: one hundred, one hundred, you know, fucking ten million dollar

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Speaker 4: deals and then didn't uphold their their end of the bargain.

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Speaker 1: Do the work.

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Speaker 4: And now look and now everyone's recharging. We not get

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Speaker 4: more Nigga's straight rep share deals like Nigga's not even

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Speaker 4: getting that money up front, no more.

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Speaker 5: They got to prove they worth trust.

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Speaker 1: Trust.

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Speaker 7: But that's why you But that's why. And I learned

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Speaker 7: this from watching you. I learned this from you and

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Speaker 7: recipes to my big bro combat. You know what I'm saying,

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01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 7: y'all was doing the work. So what I learned and

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01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:25,759
Speaker 7: this is the biggest equation in my whole career, leverage, leverage.

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01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 7: You want everything I tell you I want, but you

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01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 7: know I treat it. I ain't ona front. I treat

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Speaker 7: the way I do business like being a woman dating

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Speaker 7: mm hmmm, that's serious one a while, because how you

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Speaker 7: do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you. Let me let me. Let me

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Speaker 2: tell you.

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Speaker 7: So if I'm a and I was raised by women,

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Speaker 7: that's the only reason why I can say this right

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Speaker 7: in that context. But like, if you want to date me,

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Speaker 7: if you want to be with me right like, and

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Speaker 7: you want me to be exclusive to you, then show

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Speaker 7: me right, put in the work, right, put in the

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Speaker 7: work if you because every man who goes after the

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Speaker 7: woman they want put in a fucking work.

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Speaker 1: You can have a.

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Speaker 2: Hundred chicks the one that you want.

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Speaker 7: Nigga, You're gonna do everything everything she say, everything that

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Speaker 7: she needs because that's what you want, right and and

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Speaker 7: and business show me that.

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Speaker 2: So you could tell me a hundred time you know

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Speaker 2: how many you know how many people call me yo?

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Speaker 1: Ain't no?

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Speaker 2: I love what you're doing, Yo. It'd be dope if

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Speaker 2: we could do this together week. That's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: I have my leverage. I have my lever.

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Speaker 7: My leverage is my cameras, my editing. But the person

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Speaker 7: who does on my transcription.

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Speaker 2: I have all of that.

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Speaker 7: So as I keep getting bigger. At the point where

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Speaker 7: you tell me you want to do something, they're not

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Speaker 7: can negotiate how big my ringa. Then I can tell

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Speaker 7: you how big my ring is. And then you better

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Speaker 7: be willing to put that ship on my finger. And

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Speaker 7: I'm a bye bye my what you want me to.

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Speaker 4: And then he gonna keep the box for it in

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Speaker 4: the hallway.

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Speaker 5: This is what I love.

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Speaker 2: She can't never turn that ship off.

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Speaker 1: I should have got.

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Speaker 2: She can't devastate it off.

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Speaker 5: Red list. I always got to bring it back in

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Speaker 5: my if. I in my past life, I was a

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Speaker 5: comedian and you know.

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Speaker 1: Everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking all the branch you. I'm not exclusive to you.

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Speaker 1: What you got here.

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Speaker 5: I was just telling him that.

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Speaker 4: I was just telling him, I'm U T A n

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Speaker 4: W and me I'm urban one in our heart.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Baby?

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Until somebody put that ring on the fingers?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Take me to dinner?

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Speaker 5: Fact, take me to caviar. It's not gonna be a

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Speaker 5: very cheap dinner. Okay, Jesus, I think we kind of

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Speaker 5: got to everything.

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Speaker 4: Wait, no, thank you, thank you having this fun journalist,

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Speaker 4: Jason Uh. Let everyone know where they can help you

2285
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 4: build your god damn coop out here. So you could

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Speaker 4: see waiting on one one now on everything.

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Speaker 7: Man, if that's Twitter, well x Instagram, PlayStation if you

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Speaker 7: want to get cooked in two k wait on one

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Speaker 7: one nine on YouTube. You know what I'm saying, I'm

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Speaker 7: launching some some new things I'm extremely proud of. I

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Speaker 7: didn't taken time to really really put into work. Like

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Speaker 7: I said, I'm building my leverage. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: And I understand what I mean to this media space,

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01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 7: and I'm gonna call my I'm not competing with nobody,

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01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, I'm competing with myself.

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Speaker 2: I'm out.

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Speaker 7: I'm out doing myself last year to this year in

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Speaker 7: media tremendously period, you know what I'm saying. So I'm

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Speaker 7: just staying on that path. Thank you, man, I'm staying

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Speaker 7: on that path. And if you mess with me now

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Speaker 7: we're doing. If you're doing, eventually you will.

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Speaker 4: So y'all make sure that y'all support for my guy

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Speaker 4: who ain't know who didn't become my co.

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Speaker 5: Host because he cost too much.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Hey, if you guys want to support everything I'm doing,

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Speaker 4: y'all already know. I'm a New York Times Best motherfucker seller,

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Speaker 4: no host, bard a doing manifesto of sexual exploration and power.

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Speaker 4: If you're in Atlanta, you can listen to me every

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Speaker 4: Saturday six to eight.

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Speaker 5: I'm Hot on a seven nine. We off the clock.

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Speaker 5: It is a new type of mix show.

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Speaker 4: So I'm giving you politics, I'm giving you gossip, but

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Speaker 4: a game they're playing the Fever and I don't even

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Speaker 4: get see Caitlin clark Man annoyed about that. Anyways, y'all

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Speaker 4: if you want to listen to me every Monday on Decisions,

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Speaker 4: Decisions every Tuesday and Friday right here, Selective Ignorance Shout

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Speaker 4: out to my super producers Jason and a King. I

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Speaker 4: love that y'all are back with me.

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Speaker 5: Both of you.

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Speaker 4: Hey, y'all, this is another episode of Selective Ignorance, where

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Speaker 4: curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter.

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Speaker 5: See you next week. Peace.

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