Speaker 1: I'm Tamika D.
Speaker 2: Mallory and it shit Boy, my son in general.
Speaker 1: We are your host of TM.
Speaker 3: I Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, Motivation and Inspiration.
Speaker 1: New Name, New Energy. What's going on, my son, Lennon.
Speaker 3: It's been a long day, but it's I'm here. I'm
Speaker 3: Blessed Black and Holly Favor and I woke up this morning.
Speaker 4: Along we along several months, not just yeah, yeah, well,
Speaker 4: I guess so I wouldn't say it's been rough as
Speaker 4: much as I would say it's been long, Like it
Speaker 4: felt long to me, just the the traveling, the heat,
Speaker 4: the constant arguments, who agrees, who doesn't agree, who likes who,
Speaker 4: who doesn't like. It just seemed like it went on
Speaker 4: and on and on, and I just wanted it to
Speaker 4: be over.
Speaker 1: I wanted the election to be over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the election was a lot, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was heavy because a lot of us worked hard
Speaker 3: and you know, put a lot of effort into it.
Speaker 3: I think for me, it's just been the last probably
Speaker 3: like a couple of weeks. So many people that I
Speaker 3: know or love have lost their life. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: so that's that's like kind of heavy for me. I
Speaker 3: got friends who's lost parents, you know, just literally just
Speaker 3: this morning, one of my friends lost his life in
Speaker 3: the club, you know, two days ago, Chubby Baby with
Speaker 3: somebody that's loved throughout the industry, like was such a
Speaker 3: good dude, lost his life. You know, we got ca
Speaker 3: can It's just it's just constant people just losing their life.
Speaker 3: And so I'm just I'm blessed to still be alive.
Speaker 3: So I can't complain about any of that, you know,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't feel all the way good to just
Speaker 3: constantly keep seeing death around you. So you know, I'm
Speaker 3: just I'm wrestling with that.
Speaker 4: I think that's what it makes for the conversation around
Speaker 4: how much we allow ourselves to be like divided by
Speaker 4: issues and politics and whatever whatever conflicts we find ourselves in,
Speaker 4: because life goes by so fast, like you think you
Speaker 4: have time, but you really really don't, because you just
Speaker 4: don't know, you don't know what can happen. I was
Speaker 4: just driving the other day and this person did something
Speaker 4: that was absolutely like could have got everybody killed, and
Speaker 4: I was thinking to myself, wow, today could be it
Speaker 4: like over not even me.
Speaker 1: It's not something that I'm doing. I'm not drinking and driving.
Speaker 4: I wasn't texting, I wasn't any of those things, so
Speaker 4: I could get to you know. I think about the
Speaker 4: movies where they're like you get to the pearly gates
Speaker 4: and it's like why me, Like I did everything right
Speaker 4: in this situation this day, but this other person was
Speaker 4: being irresponsible and therefore my life, you know, was taken.
Speaker 4: And I was thinking, Wow, it's so quick, it's so short,
Speaker 4: like you just never know and you really you can control,
Speaker 4: but so much of your destiny because it's not in
Speaker 4: your hands, you know.
Speaker 1: Although you can control.
Speaker 4: The choices that we make, that make that can have
Speaker 4: you know, a what do you call it. I don't
Speaker 4: want to say a quick ending, but can make you
Speaker 4: make your time shorter. But you can't necessarily control when
Speaker 4: life will be when it'll just be over.
Speaker 3: And I'm blessed to be here and have you know,
Speaker 3: had made mends with a lot of my friends, like
Speaker 3: even you know RP to to my man pers you know,
Speaker 3: we had gotten into argument over Trump online, like we
Speaker 3: was arguing back and forth over Trump, you know, and
Speaker 3: we've seen each other and it was always love when
Speaker 3: you've seen each other. We hug each other, we laughed
Speaker 3: about it, you know what I'm saying. And then I
Speaker 3: went to his birthday party, brought him a bottle of champagne,
Speaker 3: took pictures, like, showed him loved and then to wake
Speaker 3: up five o'clock in the morning people calling you saying
Speaker 3: that he ain't here, man, And you just never know,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So a lot of the the little things and the
Speaker 3: tedious and the menial things that arguments and discrepancies that
Speaker 3: you have with your friends, Man, they don't even be
Speaker 3: worth it, you know what I'm saying. I would definitely
Speaker 3: give it all just to have my friend back. So
Speaker 3: it's just it's.
Speaker 2: A lot, man. Chubby Baby.
Speaker 3: I literally just seen Chubby Baby in Atlanta a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks ago. Was sitting there laughing and he was
Speaker 3: talking to me. Were talking about all types of things,
Speaker 3: just because we came up in this game. Just watching
Speaker 3: him from the beginning, you know, early in the early
Speaker 3: nineteen late ninety nine and ninety eight, you know, and
Speaker 3: just watching him grow into what he was.
Speaker 4: And just that's you know, my friend Prophet that I
Speaker 4: grew up with, that's his cousin. So yeah, so that's
Speaker 4: so you know, a sad thing too. And then of
Speaker 4: course Clark Kent.
Speaker 3: Was the first people that I wrapped to in late
Speaker 3: ninety nine. It was like ninety eight. I mean it
Speaker 3: was like, yo, I loved you and was telling people
Speaker 3: about me. So it's just like it's just hitting home
Speaker 3: and it was really just sorry.
Speaker 4: No, you know, you have so many especially men like
Speaker 4: man gotta gotta gotta gotta, got.
Speaker 1: To take care of yourself.
Speaker 4: Guys have to take care of yourself mentally and physically.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not only bad habits, but also the
Speaker 4: depression that can create situations.
Speaker 1: You know, depression can turn into sickness.
Speaker 4: Not having a place to go to place your frustrations
Speaker 4: and your feelings. I was thinking about how we were
Speaker 4: doing the podcast for Icewear Vesso and he you know,
Speaker 4: I was saying when we were talking about why people
Speaker 4: may not like Kamla Harris so much, and I said,
Speaker 4: some of it and some men has to do with
Speaker 4: trauma deths been unaddressed, and how a lot of times
Speaker 4: men don't have a place to go to like bring
Speaker 4: their stuff because every space that you all have to
Speaker 4: show up in it's all about like manly being manly, macho,
Speaker 4: even when you're at home, like a woman doesn't want
Speaker 4: a man in the house that's whining and whimpering. It's
Speaker 4: like you want your man to show up strong, but
Speaker 4: trying to show up strong all the time can turn
Speaker 4: into internal sickness that you know, therefore the alcohol becomes
Speaker 4: the thing. Therefore the drugs or the permit, whatever it is.
Speaker 4: And so you know, I just think that it's an
Speaker 4: important message for us to be out here preaching and
Speaker 4: teaching that you all as men and we also as women,
Speaker 4: but need to be really really taking care of ourselves.
Speaker 4: Y'all need to be taking care of yourself.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about Clark Kent and that was one
Speaker 4: of his messages, like in the last few years of
Speaker 4: his life when we would see him, like his message was, man,
Speaker 4: take care of yourself, you know, check your health, make
Speaker 4: sure you're good. It's not that he could control his
Speaker 4: situation again, right, but I'm sure through what he went
Speaker 4: through he knew that it is important for you to
Speaker 4: be on top of your health. And you know, I
Speaker 4: was looking at messages between the two of us back
Speaker 4: and forth where I said to him, listen, I ain't
Speaker 4: gonna ask you the specifics of what's going on or
Speaker 4: how you're doing, but I just wanted to tell you
Speaker 4: that I care. And he wrote back and said, you know,
Speaker 4: that's just the simplicity of this message means so much
Speaker 4: to me. And he said, and you keep doing what
Speaker 4: you're doing and don't ever stop ever. And that's something
Speaker 4: that'll stick with me for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: That was cluk Man.
Speaker 3: Clark was one of those people that when it came
Speaker 3: to hip hop, he wanted he had all of the knowledge.
Speaker 3: He would give you all the types of the background.
Speaker 3: He would debate you about lyricists. But his energy was
Speaker 3: always beautiful. It was never never a negative energy. You
Speaker 3: walk into a Cluck Kim party. He was one of
Speaker 3: the top DJs in the world. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If you've seen him just in the club, he would
Speaker 3: look at you, he'd give you this love hug like
Speaker 3: you're good to see you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So and much love to his wife Keisha.
Speaker 4: She just beautiful, just amazing, and it just was a
Speaker 4: beautiful They are a beautiful group couple. She will continue
Speaker 4: on with his leg see with his family. So Clark
Speaker 4: Kent and your friend Percy, and the number of individuals
Speaker 4: that just keep I mean, I see it, and perhaps
Speaker 4: the Internet has just made it more real and we
Speaker 4: see it a lot. But there's a lot, a lot,
Speaker 4: a lot, a lot, a lot of death that is taken.
Speaker 2: That's why we got to live life. Man.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, if you don't listen to nothing else,
Speaker 3: so I said, you could debate me about anything, but
Speaker 3: live life.
Speaker 2: Enjoy yourself.
Speaker 3: Surround yourself around people that have positive energy, do things
Speaker 3: in love peace. We are at this age and when
Speaker 3: you get to the forties and almost fifties, you have
Speaker 3: to surround yourself by nothing but love and positivity. Anything
Speaker 3: else is causing stress, is weighing down on your body,
Speaker 3: is taken away from your health. You got to make
Speaker 3: and make sure that you take care of your health.
Speaker 3: Go and get regular checkups, make sure you eating properly, exercise,
Speaker 3: do all the things necessary, man, and surround yourself by
Speaker 3: good and positive energy. I don't want to be nowhere
Speaker 3: around nothing that I gotta force that I gotta worry
Speaker 3: about if somebody gonna shoot me or kill me.
Speaker 2: I don't want, I don't want. I'm past that. When
Speaker 2: you when you was twenty, you thought that was cool.
Speaker 3: I want to go to the club. We might have beef,
Speaker 3: and for some reason it gave you some a drenaline rush.
Speaker 3: I don't know what we thought was so cool about that,
Speaker 3: but you realize now that that was the dumbest I
Speaker 3: want to go. When I look or think there's somebody
Speaker 3: that might have a problem, I don't even want to
Speaker 3: be there now. I don't want nothing to do with that.
Speaker 3: I want blues music. I want slow gems. I want
Speaker 3: R and B like. I don't want nothing that's gonna
Speaker 3: cause any type of drum. I want to leave at
Speaker 3: the end of the night tipsy after a drink on
Speaker 3: a little wine, a little whatever, and I want to
Speaker 3: go to sleep and wake up and say how much
Speaker 3: of a good time?
Speaker 2: That's it. That's what I want to do.
Speaker 1: Now, that's the end of that.
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 4: If somebody says, well, Tomik Mallory, you a dirty two bit,
Speaker 4: no good so and so I'm gonna say, you know
Speaker 4: you're right. I was thinking the same thing about myself.
Speaker 4: Have a nice day, don't care. Not interested in turning
Speaker 4: everything into a fight, because what we're fighting on the outside,
Speaker 4: the things like I keep going back to the person
Speaker 4: in the comments section that said, to whatever these young men,
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna go back over the story. If we
Speaker 4: only knew who the real enemy is was I say, is,
Speaker 4: then we would focus so much more of our time
Speaker 4: on that. And I truly do believe that over the
Speaker 4: next several years we will be.
Speaker 1: Meeting and I don't want to say it as if
Speaker 1: the enemy.
Speaker 4: Hasn't always been around, but we'll be meeting the enemy
Speaker 4: in reform and have to stand up to that. Let
Speaker 4: me tell you my thought of the day. So you know,
Speaker 4: yesterday a video of Donald Trump talking about some of
Speaker 4: his policies and some of the first one hundred days
Speaker 4: like things he intends to do, was released, and one
Speaker 4: of the things that he touched on was that he
Speaker 4: will be immediately addressing the gender affirming care and stopping it.
Speaker 4: Only two genders that will be acknowledged is male and female.
Speaker 4: And you know, there will be no more puberty blocking medicine.
Speaker 4: Any doctor who is found to be administering and prescribing
Speaker 4: those types of medications for minors, they will not be
Speaker 4: eligible for Medicaid, and medicare to go to their medical
Speaker 4: facilities and they'll be placed on different lists or whatever,
Speaker 4: so they will not be allowed to care for minors
Speaker 4: who have any kind of you know, that they're transitioning
Speaker 4: in any way. And you know, in the caption of
Speaker 4: the person who posted the video I saw, they said
Speaker 4: that zero point zero zero six people, like some very
Speaker 4: very small number of kids identify as transgender at a
Speaker 4: very you know, minor kids. Now, you know, throughout the campaign,
Speaker 4: there was this whole thing about there being a youth
Speaker 4: or kids that go to school and then when they
Speaker 4: get back from school they're either And I'm really literally
Speaker 4: trying to paraphrase it because I think for me to
Speaker 4: sit here and even repeat the stupid that I saw
Speaker 4: that people leave home, go to school, and come back
Speaker 4: there was a boy when they left, and they come
Speaker 4: back a girl, I can't even repeat that and make
Speaker 4: sense of it. So I'm gonna say that what they
Speaker 4: probably meant is that the kid would go to school
Speaker 4: and say, you know, I feel this way, and then
Speaker 4: they come back talking about changing their sex, because I
Speaker 4: just can't process the other thought because there's no way
Speaker 4: that that can happen. There are not doctors in America
Speaker 4: giving children sex changes or changing their gender. That is
Speaker 4: not a thing, right, it is not a thing. But
Speaker 4: the gender affirming care that is something that people have
Speaker 4: had to get and had to consult with medical professionals about. Now,
Speaker 4: first of all, let's just be clear the percentage, and
Speaker 4: I've actually wrote this down that there is little to
Speaker 4: no utilization of gender affirming surgeries by kids miners who
Speaker 4: identify as transgender.
Speaker 1: Little to none.
Speaker 4: Also, I couldn't find the exact percentage, but I know
Speaker 4: that everything I read said that it is almost like
Speaker 4: no kids using gender affirming medication except in extreme circumstances.
Speaker 4: So let me tell you when I read what an
Speaker 4: extreme circumstance may be. It's not all about changing your
Speaker 4: sex to something different, right, It's not all about gender
Speaker 4: changing your gender. It could be that you are a
Speaker 4: child who was born as a male assigned or a male,
Speaker 4: and you have male genitilia, but then you also are
Speaker 4: growing breast at the same time, right, and so a
Speaker 4: doctor will prescribe something that is a puberty blocker that
Speaker 4: basically will stop the breast from growing so that you're
Speaker 4: not walking around in society, especially as mean as kids are.
Speaker 4: When you go to school, you in the boys' bathroom,
Speaker 4: or you are playing sports with boys and you are
Speaker 4: a boy, but you also have breast because that's growing.
Speaker 1: That is a thing, Okay, It is also a thing
Speaker 1: that a little girl could have her.
Speaker 4: Female genitalia and then be growing a beard and having
Speaker 4: hair growing in places because there is something chemical imbalance
Speaker 4: or whatever that's happening within her. I don't know if
Speaker 4: that's the correct word, but I would assume it's a
Speaker 4: chemical imbalance when you have two different things going on
Speaker 4: at once.
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I grew up.
Speaker 4: I had a jaj and the vejj and the breast
Speaker 4: grew at the same time. I never was in a
Speaker 4: situation where all of a sudden certain things made me
Speaker 4: feel like I.
Speaker 1: Was boy and then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like whatever, whatever, whatever can be the I don't
Speaker 4: want to misspeak about it because it's too serious. Right,
Speaker 4: And so you have doctors that see these things. You
Speaker 4: might have a child who is extremely depressed, who is
Speaker 4: suffering with, you know, issues, looking at themselves. They're very confused,
Speaker 4: and there are doctors out here who know what to do.
Speaker 4: Now are there doctors that might be actually working with
Speaker 4: and supporting a child who's saying I am not a girl.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm something else and I want to transition.
Speaker 4: Maybe they are, but the statistics, the data shows that
Speaker 4: that is happening at.
Speaker 1: The low, super super super super low rate. So it's not.
Speaker 4: As someone else said to me, someone we both love
Speaker 4: and care for said to me, it's not important at
Speaker 4: all that it should not be happening at all, because
Speaker 4: it's not important to give children gender affirm and care.
Speaker 4: I don't agree with that, but here's what I say
Speaker 4: to all the people that I'm watching online who have
Speaker 4: so much to say about this topic. It is true
Speaker 4: that this is a very very minute issue that is
Speaker 4: not happening at large rates to a bunch of kids
Speaker 4: everywhere you go, because I've asked you, I've asked other
Speaker 4: friends of ours, I've asked family members how many of
Speaker 4: y'all the kids in the class are transgender? Or your
Speaker 4: kids went to school, came back and said, I feel
Speaker 4: like I should be something else, and most people are
Speaker 4: telling me that didn't happen.
Speaker 1: But you know what is at high rates mass school shootings.
Speaker 4: You know what else is a high at high rates
Speaker 4: fenton all deaths among young people. So it is interesting
Speaker 4: to me right that this person who people think is
Speaker 4: the big bad wolf. He's the big bad Trump that's
Speaker 4: coming in to deal with this thing that is this small.
Speaker 1: Is this small, and.
Speaker 4: Yet these other things are this big. And his top
Speaker 4: priority is to address this. You know why, because what
Speaker 4: he's not getting ready to do is go tell the
Speaker 4: NRA and the gun companies that they have to do
Speaker 4: something to stop guns from getting into the hands of kids.
Speaker 4: That's what he's not gonna do. What he's not gonna
Speaker 4: do because he didn't do it while he was president
Speaker 4: before and he had no intention of doing it now.
Speaker 4: To address the issues that Congress has laid before the
Speaker 4: Republican Party to say, sign on to this that will
Speaker 4: help us to deal with people who have access to
Speaker 4: guns with mental health, who have access to guns, as
Speaker 4: they say the Beltway or whatever they call it, where
Speaker 4: there's guns that's being traffic up and down our community.
Speaker 4: And by the way, this is before are the quote
Speaker 4: end quote border crisis, because what about the fact that
Speaker 4: there are companies that profit they make money off of
Speaker 4: So you can't blame this on the immigrants.
Speaker 1: You gotta look at the people.
Speaker 4: It's like they say, drugs aren't being made in the
Speaker 4: black community, so why is it that only people in
Speaker 4: the community are being held accountable for the drugs. Why
Speaker 4: are you not You should be out immediately talking about
Speaker 4: finding ways to crack down on these gun companies and
Speaker 4: the NRA.
Speaker 1: You know what else he's gonna do. Oh, he said he's.
Speaker 4: Gonna target Big Farmer to make sure that they stop
Speaker 4: with gender affirming drugs. Will he also deal with the
Speaker 4: fact that they have profited off of and marketed opioids
Speaker 4: and fentanol and other drugs to our community.
Speaker 1: Are they gonna do anything about that?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: You know why because those are his boys, those are
Speaker 4: his donors, those are his people. So it's interesting to
Speaker 4: me that people feel, which is true, that the issue
Speaker 4: of gender affirm and care is something that it's small,
Speaker 4: it's not something that should be significant, We shouldn't be
Speaker 4: focused on it. Okay, If that is in fact the truth,
Speaker 4: then why in the first days of his announcements did
Speaker 4: he not say I'm gonna get to this because I
Speaker 4: have an issue with this, and it seems that a
Speaker 4: bunch of Americans also have an issue with this because
Speaker 4: we know black folks, we know people of all races
Speaker 4: that have an issue with the agenda affirming thing. But This
Speaker 4: is not as significant as the fact that your child
Speaker 4: and my child are more likely to go to a school,
Speaker 4: a mall, a skating rink, or somewhere and get shot
Speaker 4: by somebody who happens to be a person that has
Speaker 4: a gun in their hand because they probably have some
Speaker 4: mental health issue, right, or to get drugs out of
Speaker 4: the hands of our kids.
Speaker 3: Everything you said is on point, you know, And I
Speaker 3: tell people all the time. Donald Trump is a master manipulator, right,
Speaker 3: He's figured out and now he lined hisself with Elon Musk,
Speaker 3: you know, and he's figured out how to target certain
Speaker 3: things that he know triggers people like as a man,
Speaker 3: like as an alpha male, you want you you you,
Speaker 3: especially when you're young. In the black community, we've been
Speaker 3: taught we've been taught a lot of things about that
Speaker 3: they're trying to demasculate. They're trying to emasculate us, and
Speaker 3: they want us emasculate us, and they want to feminize.
Speaker 2: Us and all those things.
Speaker 3: So those are fears that we have, right, So you
Speaker 3: fear everything. You're like, no, we're not. We're in a way,
Speaker 3: We're not gonna let our kids be emasculate. We don't
Speaker 3: want that for our kids. So he stokes that fear,
Speaker 3: even though as you grow older, you know, when I
Speaker 3: was twenty and all that those things were prevalent. In
Speaker 3: my mind, I ain't gonna be around a gay person.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay it worth for this. And as you
Speaker 3: grow older you're like, well, that's their part, that's their issue,
Speaker 3: that's the that's their reality, that's how they live their lives. Right,
Speaker 3: They're not bothering me. They're not imposing anything on me.
Speaker 3: It doesn't it's not rubbing off on me. I'm who
Speaker 3: I am and they who are, and everybody is an individual,
Speaker 3: and you start to realize, well, that person, that's the individual.
Speaker 3: He's not doing nothing to me. She's not doing anything
Speaker 3: to me, So why is that such a big deal.
Speaker 3: But what Trump knows is that it's inside our community.
Speaker 3: It's a certain thing that it's a conversation within our community.
Speaker 3: So he plays on that. So when he says we
Speaker 3: don't want no transgender and we don't want this, he
Speaker 3: knows that the average person, especially a male who feels
Speaker 3: he's a strong male, is going to say, yeah, we
Speaker 3: don't want that. Far kids, even though you don't see
Speaker 3: it for your kids. When you go to school, you
Speaker 3: don't see it. That's not something your kids are not
Speaker 3: coming home saying, hey, this will happen to my school today.
Speaker 3: You know, they tried to tell me I was trained
Speaker 3: or I went to school and they taught me about
Speaker 3: this is not conversation that happening. But he knows how
Speaker 3: to stoke that fear. He knows if he constantly says that.
Speaker 3: He knows if he constantly says that, even if it's
Speaker 3: not happening, it's just like they're eating the cats and
Speaker 3: they're eating the dogs. Even if it's not happening, people
Speaker 3: keep on the migrants are raping and killing you, even
Speaker 3: though the percentage of that happening is damning.
Speaker 2: So that's what the thing is.
Speaker 3: He focuses on the low vibrational shit that he knowsh
Speaker 3: triggers you, right, So when I have a common day,
Speaker 3: like yo, they given. I had a conversation with a
Speaker 3: guy in Michigan and we just talking about the election.
Speaker 3: He's liked, I ain't voting. I ain't voting nothing. He said,
Speaker 3: i'mnna ask you a question, man. It's Kamala Harris given
Speaker 3: transgender operations in jail.
Speaker 2: I said, what do you mean she's giving people operations?
Speaker 2: Is that's what she's doing?
Speaker 3: Because I've seen the commercial to say that, I said, well,
Speaker 3: I don't know the particulars of it. I don't know
Speaker 3: what if it was a health situation or whatever, but
Speaker 3: I heard that there was one situation with that it happened,
Speaker 3: and it was probably you know, the person had some issues.
Speaker 3: I didn't read the whole thing, but it's not a
Speaker 3: normal thing that happens every day. He said, well, I
Speaker 3: don't want nothing to do with that. I said, well,
Speaker 3: how many? I said, think about this? You so focused
Speaker 3: on that the possibility of that affecting your life is what?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: How many have you been to person? He said yeah.
Speaker 3: I said, have you been around where somebody had a
Speaker 3: sex transfer operation or anything?
Speaker 2: He said no. I said, if he did, how would
Speaker 2: it affect you?
Speaker 3: You go to your cell that person or they sell,
Speaker 3: how would that affect your direct life? He said, I'm
Speaker 3: saying I just don't want it anywhere. I said, okay,
Speaker 3: and I get it. You might not want it because
Speaker 3: that's why you don't got it. I said, but if
Speaker 3: he gives the police immunity, right, you think that's gonna
Speaker 3: affect your life more than that on the one percent
Speaker 3: chance of that you because you out here every day
Speaker 3: with the police.
Speaker 2: You walk every day, your friends get arrested, they gather.
Speaker 3: So imagine if the police had immunity right and they
Speaker 3: was able to pull you over and do what they
Speaker 3: want to you. Do you think that affects you more?
Speaker 3: Or that that one operation that somebody had in the prison.
Speaker 3: And he said, you're right, I said, because that's what happens.
Speaker 3: They get you to focus on shit that really don't
Speaker 3: that don't really affect you, and it don't really matter
Speaker 3: to you, right, but.
Speaker 2: You just the thought of it.
Speaker 3: He knows that it triggers something in you as a male,
Speaker 3: because you feel it.
Speaker 2: So this is what he does. He figures out how
Speaker 2: to trigger things in you.
Speaker 3: That actually the percentage of them having everything because they
Speaker 3: talk about the migrants every day, and I know we
Speaker 3: have immigration problem.
Speaker 4: We know, well, let's not say we have an immigration
Speaker 4: problem because they take little words, but there is in
Speaker 4: fact a situation with the immigrant community, the migrant community
Speaker 4: that needs to be addressed, needs to be a dressed,
Speaker 4: it needs work, it.
Speaker 3: Does any serious work, and they and they figured out
Speaker 3: how to compound it they figured out, you know what
Speaker 3: we're gonna do. We're gonna make sure that when we
Speaker 3: get to the immigrants inside of Arizona, when we get
Speaker 3: them inside of Florida, we're gonna shift them to one
Speaker 3: that We're gonna shift them in Chicago, We're gonna shift
Speaker 3: in LA and we're gonna shift in New York to
Speaker 3: the Democratic States to where they overload, to where it's
Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of them. And they look and then
Speaker 3: people see it, like you look at them, it's busses.
Speaker 3: They done took over this. They figured out how to
Speaker 3: make it look like it's a bigger issue because so
Speaker 3: they and they focus on that, and they make you
Speaker 3: focus on that. And the reality is I've lived the
Speaker 3: once immigrants and migrants my whole life. But my whole
Speaker 3: life I live in the Bronx. It's a melting pot.
Speaker 3: Every time the new immigrant class coming, they come to
Speaker 3: the Bronx. You know, I remember when the Dominicans came here.
Speaker 3: I remember when Africans came here. I remember when Venezuela.
Speaker 3: Like you watch them come in. We figured out how
Speaker 3: to live with each other. Some of them my best friends.
Speaker 4: And the interesting thing about it in my opinion is
Speaker 4: that I know a lot of I know a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm like you.
Speaker 4: I grew up in the Bronx and Harlem and then
Speaker 4: to the Bronx, and I know a lot of people
Speaker 4: who are immigrants. I mean a lot of people who
Speaker 4: are immigrants, or at least the parents were immigrants, or
Speaker 4: the child might have been born in the United States,
Speaker 4: but the rest of their families immigrants. And I can
Speaker 4: tell you right now that those people are mainly the
Speaker 4: most peaceful people I.
Speaker 1: Know, the.
Speaker 4: Citizens that I had to run from. So I'm just
Speaker 4: saying like, and it's very intention very intentional.
Speaker 3: And they figured it out, and they looked at the things,
Speaker 3: and I'm telling you, they have study groups. They sat
Speaker 3: down with the study groups. What what is going to
Speaker 3: trigger these people the most?
Speaker 4: Because we keep saying it, whether it is or not,
Speaker 4: we're going to keep on stoking that fear, and that's
Speaker 4: gonna be the main thing that they focus on.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get so focused on the ship.
Speaker 3: That don't matter, that's barely happening, that the zero point
Speaker 3: one percent happening, that they're gonna forget about the real
Speaker 3: ship that's going on. Right So that's that's what that's
Speaker 3: what Donald Trump has done. And you know, like, once again,
Speaker 3: I do not agree. I do not think any child
Speaker 3: should be should be affirming any gender as a child.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if that's a thing. I don't
Speaker 2: think this is my person.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 4: You know, you and I have had this conversation rigging
Speaker 4: him around the rosie and I you know, I appreciate
Speaker 4: the fact that your position is your position and it
Speaker 4: is what it is. But I do wanted to make
Speaker 4: sure make sure it's clear that we are okay with
Speaker 4: children affirming.
Speaker 1: What we learn to be fact. So let's just be
Speaker 1: clear when when.
Speaker 4: We have we're children and years and it whatever whatever time,
Speaker 4: some already said this is what is going to be called,
Speaker 4: this is this, and that's that male female and.
Speaker 1: Those kids that say I'm a boy, I'm a boy.
Speaker 4: No one has a problem with that, if not no one,
Speaker 4: But people don't have an issue with that. So we're
Speaker 4: okay with kids affirming what has been the social construct
Speaker 4: that they are assigned to. What we have an issue
Speaker 4: is them saying I feel like something else is happening.
Speaker 4: That's when we're like, well, I don't believe that a
Speaker 4: kid should have the right to that. Now, I do
Speaker 4: agree with you. I agree with you one hundred I
Speaker 4: just want to make sure that the premise is clear.
Speaker 4: But I do agree that a child should not be
Speaker 4: able to make a life altering decision before they become
Speaker 4: an adult, because that does not mean that I don't understand,
Speaker 4: believe in one hundred percent feel that parents that know
Speaker 4: their children are going through something because I've had parents
Speaker 4: sit in my face and tell me. We tried to
Speaker 4: ignore it, We tried to do therapy, We tried to say,
Speaker 4: maybe the child is just crazy, weird, this all kinds
Speaker 4: of things because we were ignorant. But once we begin
Speaker 4: to try to understand our depressed child, our child that
Speaker 4: was withdrawn, our child that was cutting it him or
Speaker 4: herself or doing certain things. After we tried to understand
Speaker 4: and they were able to open up to explain to
Speaker 4: us that they don't feel like the body that they're
Speaker 4: in is who they truly are, then we had to
Speaker 4: figure out a way to wrap care around them, to
Speaker 4: take them to the right. Not just any psychic, because
Speaker 4: you got psychiatrists and therapists who also don't agree, who
Speaker 4: might be sitting there telling the kid, oh, you just
Speaker 4: you know, you need these pills to make you you know,
Speaker 4: like like I don't know the right pills. So again,
Speaker 4: I don't want to just be throwing things out, but
Speaker 4: you could give kids stuff or people things that dope
Speaker 4: them down, make them feel like, you know, more depressed,
Speaker 4: instead of trying to help them figure out how to
Speaker 4: cope with the situation that they're in. And so with
Speaker 4: that being said, right, I do believe that families should
Speaker 4: be supportive of their children and trying to understand what
Speaker 4: the kid is experiencing and educating themselves.
Speaker 1: But I do not believe that a.
Speaker 4: Twelve year old, a ten year old, a fourteen, fifteen,
Speaker 4: even sixteen year old should be able to go to
Speaker 4: their parent and say, okay, now I'm ready to change
Speaker 4: my genitulia from one.
Speaker 1: Thing to the next. I don't think that.
Speaker 4: I don't now if they say that they they want
Speaker 4: their name to be something different, and they go to
Speaker 4: their family, and the family sits together and work out
Speaker 4: an understanding, and it takes a lot, it's a lot
Speaker 4: of therapy for everybody.
Speaker 1: It's a whole lot. And I think your children are
Speaker 1: worth investing in that way in them. But I don't
Speaker 1: think that people should be changing their sex at before
Speaker 1: they're grown and able to fully understand the decision that
Speaker 1: they're making. Nevertheless, it's happening at the lowest rate of anything.
Speaker 2: Right, And I agree, I agree. I just said that's
Speaker 2: what I say.
Speaker 3: I just believe that, you know, as children, we make
Speaker 3: a lot of harsh decisions, brass decisions, or decisions that
Speaker 3: we're not one hundred percent aware of. Like I've watched now,
Speaker 3: I've been a fifteen sixteen thought I knew everything. It
Speaker 3: was like, Noah, nah, I want to do this, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do this. And then by the time I was
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty, I'm like, I don't even know what made.
Speaker 2: Me do that.
Speaker 3: So those are realities, and then there's just the reality
Speaker 3: that we just don't know.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: If you're not somebody who identifies as trans, or you're
Speaker 3: not somebody who's dealing with that reality, you don't know.
Speaker 3: So I'm not I don't want to put anything on
Speaker 3: somebody else based on my reality and based on my experiences,
Speaker 3: because my experience is not your experience the way that
Speaker 3: you deal your brain doesn't work like mine, your body
Speaker 3: is not working like mine. So I don't have the
Speaker 3: right to impose my mentality, in my emotions and my
Speaker 3: physical feelings on you.
Speaker 2: It's just not right to me. But I do not.
Speaker 3: Believe that we should be making those lifetime decisions before
Speaker 3: a person is an adult person. I think then you
Speaker 3: let that adult person make those decisions because at that
Speaker 3: point they can't blame that on anyone but themselves, and
Speaker 3: they're fully aware. I just don't that's just what they
Speaker 3: can't give put that on anyone else for themselves not blame.
Speaker 3: It is your decision to make, and I think an
Speaker 3: adult should be able to.
Speaker 1: Do that, you know, so I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3: I believe that they're trying to tell us that they're
Speaker 3: trying to emasculate men, especially black men, and I want
Speaker 3: to clarify that there is definitely an attempt to emasculate
Speaker 3: black men. Is when you look at TV, when you
Speaker 3: look at a lot of different things, you know, this
Speaker 3: whole toxic masculinity thing that's over I feel like it's
Speaker 3: oversaturated as used in too many point of views, and
Speaker 3: everything is not toxic masculinity. I believe there are things
Speaker 3: that are masculine that we do as men that is toxic,
Speaker 3: but I can't believe that everything that we do because
Speaker 3: a lot of those things are we are taught to
Speaker 3: utilize those for survival. And I say this all the time.
Speaker 3: A lot of things that people say it's toxic masculinity.
Speaker 3: If I when I was in prison, if I didn't
Speaker 3: utilize those things, I probably wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1: But does that mean it's toxic, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can't tell you it's time because it was survival mode.
Speaker 3: It was things that we use to survive there. When
Speaker 3: you become when you are in a jungle, you know,
Speaker 3: and you around wolves, you're either gonna be a predator
Speaker 3: or you're gonna be pray.
Speaker 2: Right once they sense that.
Speaker 3: You pray and you and you you crying, and you
Speaker 3: emotional and you you can cry all the time, and
Speaker 3: you got to explain all these things that that doesn't
Speaker 3: work in real life where we are and the real
Speaker 3: where where I'm from, it just doesn't work. So you know,
Speaker 3: I know that those things are real, but I also
Speaker 3: know that we lack a lot of emotional intelligence. We've
Speaker 3: utilized those things that whenever we can't get our way,
Speaker 3: or we don't know how to express something, or we
Speaker 3: feel pain, we react with this level of aggression that
Speaker 3: I believe is toxic. So those both those things can
Speaker 3: exist at the same time.
Speaker 1: And need to break it down.
Speaker 2: We definitely need to break it down, and I think
Speaker 2: we should.
Speaker 3: Those are conversations we should be having, but we should
Speaker 3: not allowed those things to allow us to impose our
Speaker 3: will on other people and the things in the realities
Speaker 3: that they go for, and and not to allow them
Speaker 3: to trick us by using the trans community or the
Speaker 3: LGBTQ community against us, because those individuals are dealing with
Speaker 3: their own, you know, their own situations. So when when
Speaker 3: you start realizing that, you start to evolve and you
Speaker 3: start to grow, you started realizing that a lot of
Speaker 3: things that we took as serious or a lot of
Speaker 3: things that we were taught were just wrong. Like you know,
Speaker 3: we we really as a young black boys in our community,
Speaker 3: we targeted those people. We felt like it was like
Speaker 3: a plague. And as you grow older, these are just individuals.
Speaker 3: These are people were just different realities. I have people
Speaker 3: who that are gay, that are lgbt and trans that
Speaker 3: they are cool people, don't you know.
Speaker 2: It's not that I know a lot, but.
Speaker 3: I've been around them and they and they were fine.
Speaker 1: And respect. They didn't have the.
Speaker 2: They were human beings and their reality was just different
Speaker 2: than minds every respect we have friends.
Speaker 3: Have you in this industry, if you've been this industry
Speaker 3: long enough, then you've been around gay and trans people.
Speaker 2: That's just the reality of what it is.
Speaker 4: I don't know about trans people though, maybe they just
Speaker 4: never say inside the industry, oh okay, okay, okay, because
Speaker 4: I think that's another thing is that people when they
Speaker 4: don't experience something or they haven't been around it, they
Speaker 4: listen to whatever they hear on these shows and they.
Speaker 2: Listen they've been in this industry for years.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying, until I became until my.
Speaker 4: Older years as an activist, I never I did not
Speaker 4: meet I had not met a openly trans person. That
Speaker 4: was not something that I was introduced to. And once
Speaker 4: I did, and once I did, I was.
Speaker 1: Like, okay.
Speaker 4: My first reaction certainly was not a positive one, like,
Speaker 4: let's just be honest, because I had been told they're this.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 3: So you're trying to tell me you never was around
Speaker 3: men that were dressed like women that were like fully dressed.
Speaker 4: Now, what my experience was more of the opposite my
Speaker 4: in my life, may have been one or two men
Speaker 4: that were like kind of like rich what's his.
Speaker 1: Name, Richie, little Richard, little.
Speaker 4: Richard, like kind of like that, right, like a little
Speaker 4: and I'm yeah, yeah yeah, and a little princey, right.
Speaker 4: But they weren't called trans right, Like when I say
Speaker 4: trans gender, I mean that this is a person who
Speaker 4: has fully decided they not this, they're they're that. So
Speaker 4: what I experienced was people who were gay, and mainly
Speaker 4: it was women who dressed up and behaved more masculine,
Speaker 4: like that's how you knew something's up. Maybe there was
Speaker 4: a boy that was a lot more feminine and so okay,
Speaker 4: but that was rare because again, dealing with people's trauma,
Speaker 4: a lot of young men did. They never were able
Speaker 4: to really show you that it was an act of
Speaker 4: rebellion for a woman to be like this is me.
Speaker 1: Like two women were living together and everybody knew in
Speaker 1: the building like that.
Speaker 4: It's a little strange because usually the is man and
Speaker 4: women with children. So when two women, especially with no
Speaker 4: kids or older kids, were living together in the projects,
Speaker 4: you kind of it was like whispers about it, but
Speaker 4: it wasn't a big bowld conversation. Very rarely did you
Speaker 4: have a man who was outwardly openly gay, And if
Speaker 4: you did, he was very flamboyant, like right, and maybe
Speaker 4: he kept it himself. That wasn't my experience.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't.
Speaker 4: And and by the way, later in life, I was told, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, so and so was whatever, or if a
Speaker 4: family member died of like HIV or something like that,
Speaker 4: like they said, well, you know he was into this
Speaker 4: or he was dad in the third, But that wasn't
Speaker 4: what he did. When he came to my parents' house
Speaker 4: or he went to my grandmother's house, or I saw
Speaker 4: him at family thing.
Speaker 1: You see him at the family thing.
Speaker 4: He done turned into the most masculine man ever.
Speaker 1: And then when he's house that's what. That's what. That's
Speaker 1: my experience.
Speaker 4: We know it's there. As I got older, I began
Speaker 4: to understand it. When I was eight year nine, ten
Speaker 4: eleven years old, I didn't see that. I saw more
Speaker 4: women than I did men. So I'm just saying, when
Speaker 4: you don't know, then when I met someone like that,
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, Like what do I say?
Speaker 4: You know, I was all like, oh, I'm all uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: I don't know how I got to speak to them.
Speaker 4: I don't say this, don't say that, And it ended
Speaker 4: up being that the person is kind of like relax
Speaker 4: first of all. Second of all, it's not that deep.
Speaker 4: I understand that you don't know, and so I can
Speaker 4: help you along. And it's not that serious then and
Speaker 4: nowaday like it's not that serious.
Speaker 1: It really is not that serious.
Speaker 4: So anyway, moving right along, the team mind of today
Speaker 4: has to go to our dear brother, trick Daddy. Now,
Speaker 4: now let me say this right. I first of all,
Speaker 4: had opportunity to meet Trick Daddy one time. We were
Speaker 4: on Love and Hip Hop, and he's fairy, he's hilarious.
Speaker 1: He's funny. He reminds me of my family.
Speaker 4: My parents are from Alabama, and you know, my mother's
Speaker 4: from Alabama. My father's ofm North Carolina. My mother's family
Speaker 4: is deep, deep, deep deep deep South, and you've met them.
Speaker 4: These folks, they are hilarious, they are Southern as hell, and.
Speaker 1: He could fit right.
Speaker 4: All you gotta do is bring him to the family event,
Speaker 4: give him a chair and sit him down, and he
Speaker 4: could get right into the conversation because that's people. He
Speaker 4: would be beloved in my family. That's how my family
Speaker 4: members are. But he said the other day that he
Speaker 4: doesn't understand why people want to put Afro in front
Speaker 4: of his of the title for like who he is
Speaker 4: his culture African American, because I ain't never been to Africa.
Speaker 4: I ain't thinking about Africa. I heard it was a
Speaker 4: nice place, It's beautiful and all of that, but I
Speaker 4: ain't no African and I'm not whatever. You know, And
Speaker 4: you know, his point is like, he don't need to
Speaker 4: be attached to African, he can just be American.
Speaker 1: And I feel like.
Speaker 4: We are literally only people in the world that run
Speaker 4: from our heritage so much so that part of the
Speaker 4: reason why we experience the trauma that we go through
Speaker 4: in this nation is because we are unwilling to accept,
Speaker 4: to own, to understand, to learn about our culture, where
Speaker 4: we come from, and what has happened to us and
Speaker 4: how we ended up where we are. And then the
Speaker 4: type of mechanisms, the type of unity, the type of
Speaker 4: strategies that we have to use that draws upon our
Speaker 4: history and our culture in order for us to be
Speaker 4: able to change our circumstances in this.
Speaker 1: Nation, and and and and in this world. And I saw.
Speaker 4: In the comments, people like, yeah, he might have said
Speaker 4: this too, but I can't remember, so I don't want
Speaker 4: to attribute attribute it to him that people white people
Speaker 4: don't say that they are European right, which is not true.
Speaker 4: There are white people, many of them who know I'm
Speaker 4: a European American, a Caucasian or European American here here
Speaker 4: in this country. I've never ever met, not once in
Speaker 4: my life have I met an Asian who said, you
Speaker 4: can't call me an Asian American right, or a Latino American.
Speaker 4: People love to identify and own their heritage and their
Speaker 4: culture right and only we as and I can't say,
Speaker 4: let me go back and not say only we, because
Speaker 4: maybe it's not just only we, but it's prevalent among
Speaker 4: our community that we are very unwilling to own, like
Speaker 4: it's almost like Afro right. It's like it's like a
Speaker 4: it's like a disease on us.
Speaker 1: And then the other part of it.
Speaker 4: So my Tami is that for me, I feel like
Speaker 4: trick Daddy might not understand how damaging it is when
Speaker 4: you have such a big platform and you say things
Speaker 4: like that what it does and how it impacts our youth,
Speaker 4: and how it really chips away at our powerful, amazing heritage, right,
Speaker 4: Like we didn't just we didn't just pop up here.
Speaker 4: There is a story that goes from a long way
Speaker 4: that brings us to where we are today. And there
Speaker 4: is nothing wrong with us owning that heritage and that understanding,
Speaker 4: and our young people listen to us, and.
Speaker 1: Then they become in the wilderness.
Speaker 4: Right, because if you don't know who you are, where
Speaker 4: you've been, what your heritage is, you can't possibly know
Speaker 4: where it is that you're going now. You know, I
Speaker 4: also feel like well, and I think, yeah, this is real. Right.
Speaker 4: Most of the Jewish people I know, their children learn
Speaker 4: about their culture, they learn their culture.
Speaker 1: They never will say to you.
Speaker 4: I'm just an American. They are proud to say I'm
Speaker 4: a Jewish American. Maybe they don't say it in every
Speaker 4: room because they deal with very real anti Semitism and
Speaker 4: so sometimes they have to assimilate. But that's exactly what
Speaker 4: you're doing when you say I'm not Afro nothing, I'm
Speaker 4: just American.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Trick is bugging you know. I love Trick,
Speaker 2: that's my boy.
Speaker 3: But sometimes Trick says some things that you're like, you know,
Speaker 3: I think, especially Trick you know, being as southern as
Speaker 3: he is in the richness of the black culture that
Speaker 3: he has, right and understanding that southerness, it brought some
Speaker 3: of the mother land here.
Speaker 2: Like you can you it's still in you.
Speaker 3: Like when you go deep South, you can feel the
Speaker 3: roots of Africa in the deep South, they still have
Speaker 3: the roots there. So when you disconnect yourself from that,
Speaker 3: you know then and then you try to assimilate, and
Speaker 3: you can already see they don't want you here.
Speaker 2: They're not, they don't. They separate you every every.
Speaker 3: Time they get a chance, they say, African Americans, they
Speaker 3: don't want you to ever think that you just and
Speaker 3: you should. You should grab on and hold it and
Speaker 3: look into your heritages and understand how rich your heritage is.
Speaker 3: You know, you know a lot of people there are
Speaker 3: a lot of people that say that though, like you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of people say, I never been to Africa.
Speaker 3: I don't know nothing about Africa. And that's what happens
Speaker 3: when you disconnect the people from their culture. Right, you
Speaker 3: don't have Asians that will say that they are never
Speaker 3: just going to tell you the American they just not
Speaker 3: because they've been brought up in their heritage. They've been
Speaker 3: brought up in their culture. You know, they have their customs,
Speaker 3: they have the language that they still identify with, all
Speaker 3: of the things they can bring. They show you the
Speaker 3: history and they make you proud of that history. So
Speaker 3: I think has happened a lot of people want to
Speaker 3: disc connect themselves from the African culture and history because
Speaker 3: they don't see the richnesses and they don't see the
Speaker 3: powerfulness in it. They think it's some level of weakness
Speaker 3: or it's some level of you know, beneath because a
Speaker 3: lot of people within America try to push that on them. So,
Speaker 3: you know, I think it's a lot of people who
Speaker 3: who don't understand how connected you need to be to
Speaker 3: your culture, how we need to maintain our culture and
Speaker 3: our heritage and be proud of that heritage. You know,
Speaker 3: in America will make you believe that you need to
Speaker 3: abandon that and you need to be a part of
Speaker 3: me because oh, you're not American. If you're not from America, Listen,
Speaker 3: I'm from America. I was born and raised in America.
Speaker 3: But I understand my heritage. I understand where I come from.
Speaker 3: I understand exactly what I've been through, understand you know,
Speaker 3: the things that my ancestors had to do to actually
Speaker 3: get here.
Speaker 2: And I'm proud of that.
Speaker 3: I'm proud that despite all of the things that we
Speaker 3: went through, you know, as in Africa when we were
Speaker 3: kings and queens. I want to be able to identify
Speaker 3: back to that. I want to be able to have
Speaker 3: that heritage, right. I don't want just the you know,
Speaker 3: the culture of blackness to start in America, because to me,
Speaker 3: that wasn't a good start, you.
Speaker 4: Know, right right as you said, like, our beginnings here
Speaker 4: were not that great, and there were those who traveled here,
Speaker 4: which we learned even before Christopher Columbus, and so we
Speaker 4: as Africans had already.
Speaker 1: Set our feet on this st on this soil.
Speaker 4: Right, we had already before Christopher Columbus claimed to discover America,
Speaker 4: Africans had already discovered that this land was here. And
Speaker 4: of course we know that the natives to this land
Speaker 4: were thriving on it, right. And so when I hear that,
Speaker 4: it makes me think about Marcus Garvey's quote where he
Speaker 4: talks about up you Mighty race.
Speaker 1: He talks about.
Speaker 4: Us being brought here, robbed from our homeland, robbed of
Speaker 4: our names, robbed of our culture, robbed of our religion,
Speaker 4: robbed of our dignity and self respect.
Speaker 1: And you know, and he says we shall rise, But.
Speaker 4: I don't know that you can rise without knowing where
Speaker 4: you come from and never being in a place where
Speaker 4: you want to disconnn with the thing that actually gives
Speaker 4: you so much greatness, it actually sets you aside. And
Speaker 4: I saw so many people writing, oh, because the Africans,
Speaker 4: they don't want us, no way, And that is the
Speaker 4: biggest lie that's ever been told. That's another thing that
Speaker 4: is misinformation. I always tell people, for the most part,
Speaker 4: if you are a person, if you are a person
Speaker 4: who has never been to Africa, when you say Africans
Speaker 4: don't want us, they don't love us, they don't respect us,
Speaker 4: they don't like us, just know that for the most part,
Speaker 4: those are Americanized Africans who learn the same disrespectful shit
Speaker 4: you've learned. That's really the truth, the same disrespectful, rude
Speaker 4: cultural issues that we as Americans have here. Those Africans
Speaker 4: more than likely are Americanized and they come here and
Speaker 4: they learn the same thing everybody learns that quote unquote
Speaker 4: black people, which black is considered a race because it
Speaker 4: is used obviously on every application or whatever. If you
Speaker 4: notice they try to change it to African American. But
Speaker 4: sometimes you'll still see them use race. I mean still
Speaker 4: see the application or something used black. But black is
Speaker 4: actually not the race. It is not the race.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, you know, when you meet these people who
Speaker 4: are Africans here in America, they're exposed to the same
Speaker 4: things that we've been exposed to.
Speaker 1: So just like we can be rude, so can they.
Speaker 4: Well, when you travel to Africa, when you actually touch
Speaker 4: that motherland, you do not find Africans that are mistreating
Speaker 4: African Americans. The main thing we heard every time we've
Speaker 4: been to Africa, and now it's been a number of
Speaker 4: times and places that we have travel, what we always
Speaker 4: hear is we've.
Speaker 1: Been waiting for you. Thank you for coming here. We love,
Speaker 1: welcome home.
Speaker 4: So again we have to put things to come we loved. Yes,
Speaker 4: I'm sure you have encountered an African person who has
Speaker 4: treated you like shit. I've been in uh taxi cabs
Speaker 4: and others where I really am like wow, like damn,
Speaker 4: you just gonna disrespect me.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 4: But that is not the culture. That's our culture in America.
Speaker 4: That these people have adopted to all right, because that
Speaker 4: is not.
Speaker 1: What happens when you go to Africa.
Speaker 4: It is not I don't think I have ever when
Speaker 4: when the times that we've been in Africa, I have
Speaker 4: never experienced a feeling of racism or like I was
Speaker 4: unliked or mistreated.
Speaker 1: Never, not one time, have you?
Speaker 2: I mean no, I haven't.
Speaker 3: I've actually felt loved everywhere until people all the time.
Speaker 3: You know, you need to go to Africa. South Africa
Speaker 3: is beautiful, Ghana is beautiful, Nigeria is beautiful.
Speaker 2: Like it's something that you actually need to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know.
Speaker 2: I have to do so that narrative, you know.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Trick, you know I love you, but you're gonna
Speaker 3: have to grab onto that Afro because use an Afro.
Speaker 4: American, and you know, the darker we are, they definitely
Speaker 4: associate us with our culture.
Speaker 1: And I love it. I own it, and I'm happy
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 4: I mean sometimes I'm more into the Afro than I
Speaker 4: am the American.
Speaker 3: Well look at God, you know. So that brings me
Speaker 3: to my music segment today, right, we was talking about
Speaker 3: I was talking about at the beginning of the show,
Speaker 3: how many people have lost their life and this last
Speaker 3: couple of weeks and how you know, I was just
Speaker 3: trying to find I've been trying to write music actually
Speaker 3: because I wanted to talk about it. But it was
Speaker 3: just a song that touch me by Toby and g Way,
Speaker 3: and it's called when God Cracks the Sky. You know,
Speaker 3: it's not exactly talking about it, but it's just talking
Speaker 3: about he has his daughter on his shoulders and he's
Speaker 3: just in the whole way, and it's like he's talking
Speaker 3: to her about how much he loved her and he's
Speaker 3: going to take care of her, and he was laying
Speaker 3: with her, and she didn't underst she didn't even understand
Speaker 3: how with laying with He didn't even understand what laying
Speaker 3: with her meant to him until he actually did.
Speaker 2: It, you know what I'm saying. So it just it
Speaker 2: just touched me in a different way.
Speaker 3: If you got a chance, please go listen to it,
Speaker 3: When God Cracks the Sky shout out to Toe. We
Speaker 3: got to get in the studio, Like he's one of
Speaker 3: my favorite artists right now, and it's a dope song.
Speaker 1: When God Cracks the Sky. I have to check that out.
Speaker 2: That sounds like it's a lot of different artists on there.
Speaker 1: I love him and his wife and his family. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's just beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've they've created something. And it just shows you
Speaker 3: that's that's nothing but Africa. That's Afro. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's when you come from the motherland. Man,
Speaker 3: you can everything else, but don't take that ad for
Speaker 3: off your name, trick baby, because that thing right there,
Speaker 3: like that coming from them drums man, when you listen
Speaker 3: to that music, it has the richness. Now we go
Speaker 3: to my I don't get it. Now, I don't get it.
Speaker 3: It brings us back to the beginning as well. You know,
Speaker 3: we was talking about Trump, and we was talking about
Speaker 3: how he talked about his plan for the first one
Speaker 3: hundred days, and you know, people can constantly tag me
Speaker 3: and stuff, and one of the things that he said
Speaker 3: that was very interesting to me.
Speaker 2: He said that he's going to grab up all the gangs,
Speaker 2: all the gang members.
Speaker 3: He's gonna lock him up, and he's going to give
Speaker 3: the death penalty for drug dealers.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: And I've seen a lot of people that's like, yes,
Speaker 3: that's right, Well, you just need to stop selling drugs.
Speaker 3: You need to do this, and you need to do that.
Speaker 3: A lot of people. That was like, to me, it
Speaker 3: didn't make sense. It's like, you know, coming from the
Speaker 3: communities that I come from, and it.
Speaker 2: Was crazy to me. Is that a lot of these
Speaker 2: people right that was rooting for Trump?
Speaker 3: I know them, right, I know that some of your
Speaker 3: former some of y'all still dibbling, dabbling. Some of y'allre
Speaker 3: definitely gang members. Whether you're doing a positive or not.
Speaker 3: You you attached the gang, right. So I'm saying to myself,
Speaker 3: did this really make sense?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: But the real thing that I did not get is
Speaker 3: everyone was so critical.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden made the four Crime Bill.
Speaker 3: And then fourty four. Yeah, well listen whatever ninety four
Speaker 3: one three, what it was in the nineties, Joe Biden
Speaker 3: they called him. They call him crime Bill Boden. He
Speaker 3: locked up black people. He locked people up for drugs.
Speaker 3: He locked him up, locked him up too with from
Speaker 3: their family. Oh, he's the worst person in the world.
Speaker 3: He locked up black people. I said, Okay, I get it.
Speaker 3: You know they said, Kamala Harris a prosecutor, she locked
Speaker 3: up black people. No, no, can't vote for her, locked
Speaker 3: up black people. No, No, I can't believe you. Over
Speaker 3: tom as a prosecutor. They locked up black people, locked
Speaker 3: up black people. The same people that said they were
Speaker 3: so anti body for the crime Bill, they hated Kamala
Speaker 3: because she was a prosecutor and she locked up black people.
Speaker 2: Was the same exact people trying to tell me.
Speaker 3: That they was gonna praise Donald Trump for giving drug
Speaker 3: dealers to death.
Speaker 2: Petalis.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm not a new that's not new, but I'm saying,
Speaker 4: but I'm just I'm not the I'm not the smartest person,
Speaker 4: but I know this.
Speaker 3: If I had to choose between somebody locking me up
Speaker 3: for selling drugs and somebody giving me the death penalties
Speaker 3: for selling drugs, I'm definitely gonna say that the death
Speaker 3: penalty is worse. I'm gonna take that time, right because
Speaker 3: a lot of the drug dealers that got locked up
Speaker 3: for the crime, but they.
Speaker 2: Home now, right, they home now. They they don't serve
Speaker 2: their time, they don't changed their ways. They moving on.
Speaker 3: They they're able to look back on their life even
Speaker 3: though they lost they lost time in their life, you know,
Speaker 3: but they did they committee crimes and they might have
Speaker 3: had excessive time.
Speaker 2: But once you give somebody the death penalty, they.
Speaker 3: Ain't coming back. So I'm trying to figure out why
Speaker 3: y'all had all of this smoke for the crime bill,
Speaker 3: and y'all had all of the smoke for Kamala because
Speaker 3: she was locking people up they were selling drugs.
Speaker 2: But you don't got nowhere at all.
Speaker 3: And you telling me these people that were saying, Yo,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not with no no prosecutor locking people up. Man,
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm with Trump, but you ain't. You
Speaker 3: ain't saying nothing about the death penalty for drugs. Now
Speaker 3: you're saying people need to stop selling drugs?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: And what makes it really really serious? And I don't
Speaker 4: have anything more to share, But the thing that is
Speaker 4: really serious is that Trump also when he was in
Speaker 4: office and it will continue now, and he put a
Speaker 4: number of federal judges on the main thing. Then in
Speaker 4: this when he becomes president again, he will have the
Speaker 4: Supreme Court. He also well, he has the Senate, and
Speaker 4: he may potentially it's looking closer and closer like he
Speaker 4: may have the Congress, right or have Congress. Because I
Speaker 4: always have to remind myself and others the Congress. The
Speaker 4: Congress is the Senate and Congress together. But the Senate
Speaker 4: and Congress are two separate entities, so he will have
Speaker 4: all of that, plus the federal judges that he's placed
Speaker 4: on the bench all around this nation. Okay, so when
Speaker 4: you sold the bagawed, or your son or your nephew
Speaker 4: or your friend sold the bagawed, maybe got caught with.
Speaker 1: You know, something that they shouldn't have had.
Speaker 4: Sure, they shouldn't have had it, but people do deserve
Speaker 4: second chances.
Speaker 1: Now you're telling me that the court.
Speaker 4: System under his control, with his judges that don't have
Speaker 4: to have any care whatsoever about you as a good kid,
Speaker 4: free pooky, none of that. They can convict you and
Speaker 4: then send you on this path towards towards the death penalty.
Speaker 4: And you're telling me that that makes more sense to
Speaker 4: you than somebody else who was saying, we need to
Speaker 4: figure out how to help you get a home and
Speaker 4: help you build generational wealth and help you find ways
Speaker 4: to not need to sell drugs or do drugs or
Speaker 4: what have you. It doesn't make sense to me at all.
Speaker 4: And I think when people get an opportunity to understand
Speaker 4: what that trifecta plus the courts looked like, which means
Speaker 4: the White House and the Senate and the Senate in Congress,
Speaker 4: and then of course your federal judges when they have
Speaker 4: an opportunity to see.
Speaker 1: How it looks.
Speaker 4: It is that there are no controls, are no guardrails.
Speaker 4: There is no one there who will be able to say, well,
Speaker 4: you know, we're not going to vote for that because
Speaker 4: we don't you you might be saying, I don't agree
Speaker 4: with X y Z thing. You would hope that there
Speaker 4: is some body of government that can stop it. But
Speaker 4: now he has the ability to push his ideology through.
Speaker 4: And guess what most of the things that he is
Speaker 4: speaking of in this last press conference are or in
Speaker 4: the last speech that he made, these are all things
Speaker 4: pulled directly from Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Listen, man, I'm I'm not here to continue to debate
Speaker 3: about these things. Were gonna am We're gonna because I'm
Speaker 3: not debated.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I'm going to talk about it, but
Speaker 2: I'm not going to debate.
Speaker 3: I'm going to We've already we got the president that
Speaker 3: we have and we're gonna watch the cards for what
Speaker 3: they made. Like we said before, until freedom gonna be outside,
Speaker 3: we was gonna fight whoever was the president.
Speaker 2: You know, we we we.
Speaker 3: Realized that one was gonna be a hard upon it,
Speaker 3: and we got the hard opponent, but we ain't giving
Speaker 3: up the fight.
Speaker 2: But I just want as these four years.
Speaker 3: Progressed, the people who made these decisions, like this decision
Speaker 3: that tried to tell me that the crime bill was something,
Speaker 3: but death penalty ain't. I just want you to constantly
Speaker 3: just take a look in the mirror every every day.
Speaker 2: These as these you know, these.
Speaker 4: Stephen Miller being being a name to his deputy chief
Speaker 4: of staff, and this.
Speaker 1: Man is a raging race but they all raging racis.
Speaker 4: And I think Stephen Miller is something. I hear what
Speaker 4: you're saying, something different. I'm just telling me it.
Speaker 3: Ain't nothing different. This is this is the house that
Speaker 3: Trump built. Trump came back for revenge.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: That man then came here for revenge, and he gonna
Speaker 3: put cases on all you.
Speaker 2: That's what he gonna do. Man.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna let y'all know man, y'all wanted Trump,
Speaker 3: y'all got Trump.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: With that said, I'm not gonna always be right, but
Speaker 3: I know I'm right about Trump and Tamika marriage. And
Speaker 3: I can always be wrong, but we will both always
Speaker 3: and I mean always, be authentic.
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