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Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh that's you. I Am

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Speaker 1: all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hey everybody,

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Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast, one of them

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Speaker 1: productions iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast Recap the season finale of

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Speaker 1: season two, episode twenty two, and we and that's called

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Speaker 1: I can't get started And it seems like I can't

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Speaker 1: get started either. We have very special guests once again

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Speaker 1: joining us, Rene Bell. Rene Welcome, How are you? How

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Speaker 1: have you been?

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Rene has been in such movies It's Ghost World, The Terminal,

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Speaker 1: Bring It On, road Trip, Baja Beach Bombs, and jar Head.

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Speaker 1: She had a recurring role in Gilmore Girls, playing Lulu,

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Speaker 1: local third grade teacher, our Hollow Elementary and Kirk's girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: She also has done some voice acting, being in the

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Speaker 1: PSP game Genie d Arc and also voices roles in

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Speaker 1: episodes of animated television series King of the Hill. And

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Speaker 1: we're going to go over this word by word that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get No, I'm kidding. Listen. Jackson and Suki's

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Speaker 1: wedding is upon us. Renie, what do you think of that? Festival?

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Speaker 1: Begin festivities? Christopher shows up it's just mayhem. Lorealized happy,

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Speaker 1: but her future plans before each other get derailed by

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Speaker 1: phone call from Sherry. Oh boy, what a what a

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Speaker 1: bomb to drop in the middle of at the end

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Speaker 1: of this episode boring, It's definitely not boring. And but

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Speaker 1: did you I knew it was going to be something.

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Speaker 1: I'd seen the episode before. I forgot what it was

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Speaker 1: going to be, but I knew it was going to

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Speaker 1: be something. Meanwhile, big surprise turn throws Rory for a loop.

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Speaker 1: Paris convinces Roy to run as her student body vice president,

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Speaker 1: and we have a really special episode here. Written and

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Speaker 1: directed by Amy Sharn Palladino, also written by John Stevens.

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Speaker 1: All Right, so let's discuss Suki's wedding. Hey, they're choosing

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Speaker 1: music for the wedding. The opening, sukis Laurela to invite

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Speaker 1: Emily and Richard, but then Lorelei tells him that it's they.

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Speaker 1: When she tells him, they say it's a pity invite,

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Speaker 1: which is some very funny stuff right there. Suki's up

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the night before her wedding, freaking

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Speaker 1: out about getting married. Lorelei calms her down by telling

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Speaker 1: her that she slept with well not at the wedding.

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Speaker 1: Laurela and Christopher are happy. Everybody's happy, even Emily is glad,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to give it a try. In For me,

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Speaker 1: it was a stomach churning moment. H Rory turns around

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Speaker 1: and sees Jess. He tells her that he moved back,

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Speaker 1: and then Rory impulsively kisses him. Renie, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: going on in this thing, and she enjoyed the level.

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Speaker 2: Of drama upon me as it.

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Speaker 1: Was happening again.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time. I've completely revisited it, like

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Speaker 2: it was a complete rewatch for me, like a new experience.

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Speaker 2: So I was really enjoying the newness of it, and

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Speaker 2: it was it was exciting. Trouble e way, you're comfortable.

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Speaker 1: You think Suki getting married has Loria reflecting on her

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Speaker 1: own love life?

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Speaker 2: Oh and thought of that? Oh yeah, Laura is so

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Speaker 2: like well behaved as a human and such a mature

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Speaker 2: friend that she would never show that to Suki, which

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Speaker 2: is nice. They don't even address that, but yeah, your

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Speaker 2: average chick would probably feel that loss.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. Were you rooting for the moment when the

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Speaker 1: camera revealed Jess was standing there towards the end.

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Speaker 2: No, it was, well, it was it was kind of

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Speaker 2: a like m m oh, okay, here this guy. All right,

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Speaker 2: It was kind of like that. It was like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know about this, But then it was like, but

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Speaker 1: Interesting complications cute.

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Speaker 2: Well, you.

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Speaker 1: Like, we don't know how long we're going to have

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Speaker 1: so we better use him. Yeah, at our top, right, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: that kiss they had, right, it's been a long time

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Speaker 1: coming to to the best of your recollection, Is that

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Speaker 1: the first time they've kissed it?

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Speaker 2: Right? Is it?

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Speaker 1: I don't think I think it is. That's their first kiss? Maybe? Right?

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Speaker 1: it's the first it's the first time they've kissed.

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Speaker 2: Well, that that adds another layer. Man, Rory, she's she's

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Speaker 2: she's not as frail as she looks.

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Speaker 1: She's something. Well, it's been a long time coming. Yeah, interesting,

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's sort of a like my feelings are

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Speaker 1: Definitely quarantine. Dean's looking good, he's acting good. He's a

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Speaker 1: good dude. Right man. He's taller, so it's not fair

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Speaker 1: water isn't? He For god's? Sake and he's just going

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Speaker 2: Guy, well, look this girl's got.

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Speaker 1: Options she's got. Options they're coming out of the. Woodwork,

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Speaker 1: man they my. God all, right let's go To Looks.

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Speaker 1: Down laura finally makes, it and that's that's a pretty funny, scene.

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Speaker 2: So, cute and she's weaving back and forth.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, right that's good. Stuff and then she gets

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Speaker 1: parented by her own, Daughter like you're gonna do, fine

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Speaker 2: Know their dynamic is like really top like it's like

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Speaker 2: just the most there's just so much like there's just

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Speaker 1: Them it's very.

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Speaker 2: Touching it's not like every day you see a mother

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Speaker 1: Humor, no just and this episode, ESPECIALLY i just the

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Speaker 1: zingers were flying in this. ONE i was laughing out

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Speaker 2: It, yeah there are a lot of just.

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Speaker 1: World, yeah there were a lot of belly laughs in this. One,

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Speaker 1: Uh luke's kind of freezing her. Out what's that, About?

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Speaker 1: Ranie what's that? About what's he? Doing you think he's? Done,

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Speaker 1: no because he didn't smirk after she. Left you know

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Speaker 1: How jess always has a little smile after he does

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Speaker 1: some manipulations On. Rory he seems the same game.

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Speaker 2: That dry, humor, right that Dry.

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Speaker 1: Luke but but it's like it's Not it's, LIKE i

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Speaker 1: don't know what's he. Doing he's not giving it, away.

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Speaker 2: So i'm not, sure totally sure what happened beforehand she.

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Speaker 1: Did they got a huge they got a huge. Fight

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Speaker 1: they're fighting about The, yeah it was a big screaming

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Speaker 1: says screw you and he goes screw. You but you,

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Speaker 1: bad and they just sort of ended their. FRIENDSHIP i

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Speaker 1: mean they're not even speaking for for weeks and.

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Speaker 2: They're just friends right, now that's. It but they got

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Speaker 1: The, balls. Right but the thing, is is he? Done you?

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Speaker 1: Think does he seem like he's, Done like he's moved

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Speaker 2: I think she's just being the bigger person in that

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Speaker 2: taking his time with. It that's my. Feeling that's that's

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Speaker 1: Felt do you think he doesn't have the bandwidth to

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Speaker 2: Me well he's a little slower moving with the whole

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Speaker 1: You he, is he's an. Iceberg he's.

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Speaker 2: Slow that tells you all you need to.

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Speaker 1: Know he's an. Iceberg he's. Slow he doesn't come around. Fast,

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Speaker 1: yeah he's Got he thinks about it a. Lot he's

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Speaker 2: Doesn't seem angry in that interaction to. Me he just

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Speaker 2: Stressed, yeah, yeah, yeah it must be weird for, you

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Speaker 1: No it's like a different. Person. Yeah well, yeah so long.

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Speaker 2: Ago it's so long, ago and it wasn't actually YOU i, know, RIGHT.

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Speaker 1: Guy you, know what do you think is this push

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Speaker 2: Oh does it push him away that he's not more

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Speaker 1: If you're not moving, forward you're moving, backwards right in these.

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Speaker 2: THINGS i DON'T i don't remember it being like a

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Speaker 2: i've been left, right that's kind of what.

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Speaker 1: Happened he was Stone he wasn't even looking at her,

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Speaker 2: Is, yeah she's really patient and forgiving and, yes realistic

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Speaker 2: ABOUT i THINK i don't. Know, well she's been through

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Speaker 2: she's already been through it with men quite, young in

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Speaker 2: a high stakes, setting and she's okay with. It she's

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Speaker 1: Got stuff to, do right, Rug polls don't bother. Her

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Speaker 2: Don't get the sense that she freaks out.

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Speaker 1: Easily been, there done. That, yeah that's to just apologize

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Speaker 3: Whatever, right she's done her, part and it's kind of

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Speaker 3: because she's not, boring but she's still kind Of OH

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Speaker 2: That not a reactive, person right, right.

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Speaker 1: All, Right Now luke goes, upstairs she's just. THERE i love.

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Speaker 1: This i'm. Sweet, YEAH i like the. Scene, YEAH i

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Speaker 1: forgot about this. SCENE i forgot about this. Scene So luke, is,

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Speaker 1: Them he Just luke needs to be respected and he

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Speaker 1: there for that. Boy you, know he really feels it

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Speaker 1: because That's jesus last. Chance there's nobody in his life

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Speaker 1: that's going to pull him out of his train wreck

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's so quickly shown with so little, exposition so few.

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Speaker 1: Done now this episode is just so well. Written, gosh

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Speaker 1: this Is amy at her. Best this is, like this

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Speaker 2: Agreed it was, Lovely.

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Speaker 1: It really, was all. Right so let's get To rory In.

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Speaker 1: Paris hilarious stuff of, them you, know and their dynamic

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Speaker 2: Time, yes, right.

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Speaker 1: But performance, wise just the whole thing was just so.

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Speaker 1: Great all. Right, so So paris is running for student body.

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Speaker 1: President she makes that you, Know mussolini like.

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Speaker 2: Speech, yeah camera shotscreen, angle like all, serious.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, right it was you, know they took SOME

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Speaker 1: i THINK i Think amy took some inspiration as a

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Speaker 2: Seen, okay but it's like a it's like a suspense

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Speaker 1: Happy if you, know if they, win they they. Both

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Speaker 1: if she, wins she gets to spend six weeks In

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Speaker 1: washington and some junior leadership. Internship, Okay and then at the,

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Speaker 1: Wedding paris Calls dean to talk To, rory hands over

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Speaker 1: the phone to Tell rory they won And rory is

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Speaker 1: the vice. President she will be vice. President so If

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Speaker 1: paris is assassinated or falls, ill Then rory will be the.

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Speaker 1: President love love the, guilting the guilt, speech, like, hey

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Speaker 1: doesn't get you Into harvard when you would have lived

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Speaker 1: your whole life regret and you're gonna be In Connecticut

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Speaker 2: HARVARD i, know you see the wheels of greatness turning

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Speaker 2: In paris's, head like you see the master manipulator just.

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Speaker 1: By so Obviously paris is, insecure she doesn't know what

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Speaker 1: she's gonna. Win she Needs. RORY i liked.

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Speaker 2: HOW i liked. That it's like there's that kind of

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Speaker 2: realize that life isn't, fair but you didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: Before so it's, Like i'm the, BEST i have the

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Speaker 2: like but that's not what people want from. You that's.

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Speaker 2: Hard that's a hard pill to swallow from someone who

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Speaker 2: cares so. Much SO I i related to. THAT i liked.

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Speaker 2: THAT i thought that was that was sweet and made

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Speaker 2: me like her more.

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Speaker 1: Basic human. Psychology it's tough growing. Up what a funny

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Speaker 1: scene that she pulled well in two, areas but in, Likability, no.

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Speaker 2: The two cutest girls on the planet just.

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Speaker 1: Like, right, yeah like and Then paris, says, uh you, Know,

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Speaker 1: louise get on that right away like.

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Speaker 2: Hers it's just it's it's.

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Speaker 1: Weird and, right like create a, scandal create a scandal

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Speaker 1: with the other male, candidate bring them, DOWN i.

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Speaker 2: Know and then she's just like she's back to being

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Speaker 2: ruthless and.

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Speaker 1: Right i'm on. It oh my.

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Speaker 2: Gosh so it's like these moments where, YOU i like

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Speaker 2: how they make you care about, her and then you're, Like,

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Speaker 2: okay she's all, right she doesn't need my concern at.

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Speaker 1: All, right, Exactly so it looks like opposites are attracting

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Speaker 1: here with these. Two ah, yeah a relationship made in. Heaven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah They it's Like paris really Respects rory and is

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Speaker 2: just kind of feel sorry for. Her But i'm sure

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Speaker 2: she respects some things about. Her but like it's it's

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Speaker 2: kind of they definitely have certain interest in. Common it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Sweet they need each other in a, way Like rory

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Speaker 2: gets to sort of, WELL i Think roy just feels,

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Speaker 2: a good. Person that's like important to her to not

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Speaker 2: make people feel.

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Speaker 1: Bad rory is To paris As luke is To. Jess

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Speaker 1: a lot of. Compassion there a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Chaos, yeah she's like her.

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Speaker 1: Parent yeah, yeah somebody's got a, razor, Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's that's a good. Point it is a sort

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Speaker 2: of yeah, caretaker yeah, yah which is sweet too because

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Speaker 2: like it's like it's also it's also real for, them you,

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Speaker 2: know it's a big. Deal all of, it all.

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Speaker 1: These, dynamics all, Right laura And. Christopher there was a

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Speaker 1: lot Of, christopher a lot Of LAUREL i in THIS

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Speaker 1: i can't be objective, Here but what did you think of? This?

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Speaker 2: WELL i like my first thought was how Sweet laura

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Speaker 2: And christopher were as, Friends that they have an obvious

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Speaker 2: physical chemistry just based on the, past but that they

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Speaker 2: were both kind of okay with, it like they could

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Speaker 2: rise above. It when he was spoken for in the

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Speaker 2: beginning and And LAURA i was just, LIKE i don't,

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Speaker 2: know she was just his, friend but there was a

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Speaker 2: really nice energy between, them and it just seemed like

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Speaker 2: they were kind of nailing the whole co parenting the.

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Speaker 2: Best it was like the best scenario because they were

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Speaker 2: of thinking the best of each. Other and then the,

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Speaker 2: CHEMISTRY i could see how that would happen because they

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Speaker 2: do have, chemistry and there is the, past and he just.

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Speaker 1: Seems to, me does he seem to you like he

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Speaker 1: he comes off so much younger Than. LAURA i, yeah

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Speaker 1: so less, capable so much. YOUNGER i, MEAN i know

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Speaker 1: the same, age but he comes off like, he's you,

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Speaker 1: know five to seven years, younger and.

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Speaker 2: He's, yes well he's the guy that he. Was he hasn't, changed, right.

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Speaker 1: Right that's the that's the immature.

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Speaker 2: Guy, yeah and she's always loved him because of their

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Speaker 2: nice chemistry and because of the good vibes between, them

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Speaker 2: but he always lets her down because that's how he.

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Speaker 1: Is, yeah this is a big one.

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Speaker 2: Thought oh, YEAH i was, like oh and he had

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Speaker 2: to do it? Right why she walks down the, Aisle

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Speaker 2: that's like it couldn't wait ten? Minutes. Whoa that's when

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Speaker 2: you really Respect LAURA, i because she's just, Like, okay

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Speaker 2: have a great. Baby, wow that's a sure.

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Speaker 1: Lady right? Right what else can you? SAY i, mean

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Speaker 1: these guys are, now they're. Intimate you, know they're together.

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Speaker 1: Again everybody's.

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Speaker 2: Happy everybody's so. HAPPY i Mean rory just like The

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Speaker 2: Rory park is, like why did they make this huge

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Speaker 2: announcement like one day after they got together for one?

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Speaker 2: Night like that seemed a little. Premature they could have

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Speaker 2: waited a. Minute there was that like they made this

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Speaker 2: huge national announcement at the, Wedding like, WELL i mean

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Speaker 2: they told several people where it's like it could be

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Speaker 2: wise to take a little. Time BUT i guess they

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Speaker 2: just were. BOTH i Think LAURA i was the one

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Speaker 2: who was just like so. Trusting she had to get

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Speaker 2: hurt again to sort of slow. Down, maybe but he's

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Speaker 2: just the one who's like more impulsive. Anyway. Maybe. Well oh,

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Speaker 2: yeah it was Very it didn't feel. Unrealistic though it

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Speaker 2: felt like things like, this it seemed like it wasn't like.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable it was just more. Information mm.

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Speaker 1: Hm tough to. Watch whole thing was tough to.

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Speaker 2: Watch but that's why it was so hard to, watch

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Speaker 2: because it was like you could see the best and

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Speaker 2: the worst of. EVERYBODY i, mean he didn't just like

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Speaker 2: change his mind for no. Reason it was a legitimate.

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Speaker 2: Reason he just didn't handle it too.

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Speaker 1: Well it's just such A i, mean his his. Character you,

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Speaker 1: know it's LIKE i, know he's not. Cheating he's like

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Speaker 1: With LAUREL, i which you know he gets he gets

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Speaker 1: Right everybody Wants laurela to be, happy so they have

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Speaker 1: this blind. Spot, yeah what does can pontentially do to? Her?

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Speaker 1: Again and this guy he just when she, said when

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Speaker 1: he turned around for the last time and looked at

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Speaker 1: her and he was depressed that he had to leave

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Speaker 1: because his girlfriend was pregnant with his. Kid oh, yeah

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Speaker 1: so he's got so. Much how do you how do

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Speaker 1: you even come. Back, wow, guy go take care of your.

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Speaker 1: Kid you got a baby, coming you. Know oh my,

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Speaker 1: God oh, terrible, terrible. Terrible that was.

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Speaker 2: Awful but that's a big, episode.

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Speaker 1: So, right you have to have.

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Speaker 2: It, yeah and it makes you love lauralit, more which is.

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Speaker 2: COOL i, mean it's just, deeper it goes deep. Whatever but,

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Speaker 2: YEAH i did want to punch him in the. Face

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Speaker 2: BUT i wanted to punch him in the face immediately

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Speaker 2: because he was just a little too familiar WITH i don't,

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Speaker 2: KNOW i just, well you worry right away that he's

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Speaker 2: being a little irresponsible when he's, like should we just

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Speaker 2: make out on this?

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Speaker 1: Couch right when he sat down with the arm and

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Speaker 1: then she leaned back on his, arm and it was, like,

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Speaker 1: whoa this is a little too much, hair right too.

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Speaker 2: Fast you, worry, RIGHT i MEAN i worried right. Away

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Speaker 2: but THEN i was, like, well, look they really care

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Speaker 2: about each, other AND i, mean this is how these

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Speaker 2: all looks really of off, board and the worry was

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Speaker 2: the right. One but she would never have, KNOWN i,

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Speaker 2: guess because they hadn't really revisited this since What roy was.

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00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Born, YEAH i. GUESS i, mean haven't they flirted? AROUND

429
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: i can't even, remember don't. Know it's like this guy's

430
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: always digging, around, right and he's looking for an, opportunity rooting,

431
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: around showing, up.

432
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: Just showing up and rooting, around.

433
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: Showing up in his, shirts my.

434
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: Shirts look at, ME i have a. Shirt look at.

435
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: Me i'm. Back it's on. Touck i'm. Casual, Now i'm so.

436
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 2: Casual i'm amazing Because i'm even here at. All, like

437
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: And rory's also so mature because she's just like so

438
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: kind with him and expects, nothing but she's so happy

439
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: for what he has to. Bring she's just a really

440
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: lovely little child of. Divorce you, know we're not.

441
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: Divorce you, know we skipped over that one scene THAT

442
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: i thought was so. Funny you, know they went To

443
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: friday night dinner And emily was offended at the when's

444
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: the wedding a week from? Now she, Could, oh so

445
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: it's a pity. Invite so the whole pity invite thing was.

446
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: Great and Then Laurel laurelai trying to change the. Subjects

447
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 1: this isn't doesn't.

448
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: Again it was like you see all, that like how

449
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: they they work together as a, team as a, Team

450
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 2: richard And emily worked together as a team because they're

451
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: both like right on the same page. Too he's like

452
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: that was a pity in, Fight they're, like, wow they're

453
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: really hooked up, Too like it's, nice it's kind of.

454
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: Sweet everybody's so close in their. Corners it.

455
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: Was it was very funny When emily showed up at

456
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: the wedding And laurela's questioning, her And emily, says, well

457
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: it would have been equally as rude not to show

458
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: up knowing that we didn't have anything else to. Do

459
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: that's called rising, above but be condescending her own daughter

460
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: by saying that's called rising.

461
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: Above so fun she really.

462
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: Is and so pretty and like put. TOGETHER i just

463
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: like WHENEVER i see her after not seeing her for a,

464
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: while and she's so pretty and, right everything is just

465
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: you just like where of me wants to be like,

466
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: that you, know and so just.

467
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 4: Spicy is there a part of you that wishes that

468
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 4: That lorela had fought harder instead of just sort of

469
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 4: accepting it and being so classy about, it you?

470
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: Know The christopher thing, no, no The christopher, thing or

471
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: does that make her look?

472
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: BAD i think your average woman would have at least

473
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: thrown a little, tantrum made it about, herself and possibly

474
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: drawn this focus from the bride and felt stupid about it.

475
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: Later so she did the best. Thing she just. Had, like,

476
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: really maybe she's been through enough that she knows and

477
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's just Being emily's. Daughter she knows how

478
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: to how to have dignity in the face of. Indignity

479
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: but uh, NO i. DON'T i. DON'T i think she

480
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: knows him well enough that and she doesn't want him

481
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: there because she yelled at. Him she wants him there

482
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: because he wants to be, there and she wants to

483
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: let him maybe have the consequences of his own, choices so,

484
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: that you, know let him say with that without her

485
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: harping voice in his ear to. Blame, NO i doubt

486
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: that was. WHAT i doubt that was really her forethought about.

487
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: It but you, know here's a. Thought maybe she didn't

488
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: fight for him because she knew in her heart of

489
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: hearts that he was not capable of balancing his own

490
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: family and also being there For, rory so she just

491
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: gave him. Up it's like just go do that because he.

492
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: Leaves confirmation of her, fear her worries maybe right, right

493
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: it's like maybe he's. Changed and then she's, like oh,

494
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: god she hasn't.

495
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: Changed, right same old.

496
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: Guy, Yeah and he says to, her you KNOW i.

497
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: DIDN'T i wasn't here for. Worry it's just like that's

498
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: the whole. Point but she's, like that's, Okay i'd be

499
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: there for someone else's. Baby but, okay you, know it's

500
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: like ouch, ouch and she didn't show, it so you.

501
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: Don't it's almost like you feel her pain more because she.

502
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: Didn't you. Know he just is not good at, life is?

503
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 1: He he's he's not very good at. Life so there they,

504
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: are both women are women are standing there heartbroken over

505
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: what just.

506
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: Happened OH i.

507
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: Know just then they start stepping toward the. Wedding it's

508
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: a it's a contrast that is uh quite beautiful for

509
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: a season. Finale oh, yeah it.

510
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: Was it was sort of like the in the sadness

511
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: moment mixed dramatic.

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00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: Moments. Funny where would you rank this in your season

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00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: finale FOR tv, shows other shows that you're fond? Of

514
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: what do you think of this as a.

515
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: SEASON i can't think of a single other season well

516
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: CAN i nothing's coming to mind of a season finale in.

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00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: Particular but those are had some good ones you See

518
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: did you see?

519
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: Those AREN'T i don't remember IF i saw a. SEASON

520
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: i saw some, episodes BUT i don't have a memory

521
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: of the SEASON i, REMEMBER i don't. Know it's like

522
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: a really bad, memory like very shoddy pieces of. Memory

523
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: so WHAT i can say is that it's up there

524
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: now and and there's really nothing wrong with it in my.

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00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: Opinion SO i don't think we'll say season finales or

526
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: any episode. EVER i don't think things that you that

527
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: feel like they were really just spot on are, common

528
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: and so it's hard to it's nice to really give

529
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: credit to that because it's sort of like hard to

530
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: imagine how difficult it is to really pull that off

531
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: because so much isn't good.

532
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: Well whether whether it's a finale or. Not it. Was

533
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: it was one of my. Favorites great episode executed on every.

534
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: Level just just a great one to rewatch and rewatch.

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00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: Anyway it was a delight to have you back. On thank,

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00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: you please come back again and again and again you thank.

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00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: You your comments and insight is deep and Welcome Renie. Bell,

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Speaker 1: Everybody thank you and remember best fans on the. Planet

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