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Speaker 3: I would like a fight song on this Tuesday, but
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get one.
Speaker 2: No, you should not.
Speaker 4: What are you going to fight about?
Speaker 3: I'm fired up? Oh it's stay number nine of Cowboys
Speaker 3: Coach Search twenty twenty five. The college football season is
Speaker 3: over and now it's full steam ahead for Shrine Bowl Week.
Speaker 3: Here come right at the end of the week.
Speaker 2: How old is that bowl game?
Speaker 3: It goes back as long as long as Randy White
Speaker 3: goes back. A Manster played it in nineteen seventy four,
Speaker 3: whatever year it was.
Speaker 4: This year is one hundred. I was going to say
Speaker 4: one hundred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Producer Supremes got the answer for you.
Speaker 4: Because Randy White is only halfway there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was half one hundred years ago.
Speaker 4: Did you not play a heck?
Speaker 2: No, I went to Grambling. They don't look at us.
Speaker 4: Usually players in Grambling do play.
Speaker 5: No, they don't not back then, back now they do
Speaker 5: now because the Shrine Williams came along, of course there
Speaker 5: had to be something extremely special. But no, if you're
Speaker 5: going to catch those guys, it's rarely HBCU players.
Speaker 4: Well, the Shrine Bowl used to be big time.
Speaker 2: It still is.
Speaker 3: It's going to be played at at and T staate away.
Speaker 4: From compared to the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 3: Well, it's now it's rivaling that they're just going to
Speaker 3: be played at at and T Stadium. Mickey, Thursday, January thirtieth.
Speaker 2: I still have a Senior Boat and they're gonna work.
Speaker 4: Then I found out there was something called the Tropical
Speaker 4: Bowl that they moved from Orlando to Daytona beach.
Speaker 2: Diet This ever, the Portal Bowl.
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 3: Ever, since get this, they actually now play high school.
Speaker 3: Of course, you had Pro Bowl in Hawaii. Now they've
Speaker 3: got high school All Star games in Hawaii. The point
Speaker 3: set of bowl. And I saw the catch of the
Speaker 3: Year on Friday night on the NFL Network, Decorean Moore
Speaker 3: out of Duncanville High School, who's headed to Oregon, number
Speaker 3: one wide receiver recruit in the nation. He made the
Speaker 3: most incredible one handed catch in traffic.
Speaker 2: And I have started out, I know you got it
Speaker 2: on the iPad.
Speaker 3: I can send it to you, but I'm got I've
Speaker 3: already made him my number one pick in the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty eight NFL Big Green Notebook, Big Green Notebook.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 5: Well, I coached them kids the Navy All Star Game,
Speaker 5: All American Game.
Speaker 2: I think that was on that this past Saturday. Oh
Speaker 2: you did? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Was it this bad Saturday for wuk Muhammad all the
Speaker 5: dbs that I coached out there? Man, they were pretty
Speaker 5: good kids and they ended up playing in the the
Speaker 5: Navy All American Game, which is down in San Antonio.
Speaker 5: It was nice, all right, very good. I cast some
Speaker 5: really nice talent there and they played nationwide television that
Speaker 5: Sunday that Saturday following Saturday.
Speaker 4: Did you have coach number twenty nine from Notre Dame
Speaker 4: on the island by himself with the best wide receiver
Speaker 4: in the country?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: Or is Ryan Williams, the Alabama seventeen year old true freshman.
Speaker 2: What happened to him?
Speaker 3: Did? He seemed like he fell because Alban wasn't good
Speaker 3: this year. He fell off big at ther Man Nick
Speaker 3: Saban retired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Nick will say that's why.
Speaker 3: That's Jeremiah Smith, who Texas, by the way, held a
Speaker 3: one catch for three yards, and the true national championship.
Speaker 4: Guy really only had two catches of significance. One they
Speaker 4: chose not to cover him when the corner back back
Speaker 4: then the law. Okay, so the first touchdown, right, he's waving,
Speaker 4: we don't have enough people over here, and he chose
Speaker 4: to go inside and let the best wide receiver in
Speaker 4: the country just uncovered.
Speaker 5: Do you think that's just a jerk reaction, Like, Okay,
Speaker 5: if I'm here, I got a choice, you're number four,
Speaker 5: you're somebody else, and so I come over and I'm.
Speaker 2: Not taking him. I'm gonna take him.
Speaker 4: I say, my job, you know, do.
Speaker 2: You think that?
Speaker 3: You know, now on that play at the end, would
Speaker 3: did they send everybody on the blitz? Was there no safety?
Speaker 4: There was no safe?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, no?
Speaker 3: See, which is you have to question that?
Speaker 2: So well, well, one thing.
Speaker 5: You can't question, regardless of what they decided to do
Speaker 5: with number before or.
Speaker 3: Not, was Jeremiah paramise.
Speaker 5: That catch is still the catch. You know, it's still
Speaker 5: that that was still his moment.
Speaker 3: You know, he was gonna catch it and wide open,
Speaker 3: wide open. I mean, we got to catch it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: what about.
Speaker 4: Just getting on him on the line of scrimmage. You know,
Speaker 4: don't worry about the first down, worry about the touchdown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you you would think, I mean it all
Speaker 3: though it was third.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying it's a hell of a call.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it was third not not particularly it was
Speaker 3: third and eleven. Yeah, you know, and they're not gonna
Speaker 3: the only way you're going to end the game is
Speaker 3: that way, basically, because it was an all out blitz,
Speaker 3: right and uh and so he just reared back and
Speaker 3: throw it to the best receiver in the country, as
Speaker 3: you say, and he made that's right, and and he's
Speaker 3: wide open. And what was interesting about it is if
Speaker 3: if they don't complete that ball, then Notre Dame is
Speaker 3: getting the football back down eight. And by the way,
Speaker 3: Twitter went crazy, but I will tell it about Twitter
Speaker 3: went crazy when Marcus Freeman decided to kick the field
Speaker 3: goal down sixteen points. But really, when you do exactly
Speaker 3: when you look at it in retrospect.
Speaker 2: It would have come down all right.
Speaker 3: Number one, they were not going to convert on fourth
Speaker 3: down the way that game was fourth and nine or whatever.
Speaker 3: It was, right, and you had enough time left where
Speaker 3: you clearly had enough time to get possessions if they
Speaker 3: kicked the field if they make the field goal and
Speaker 3: then it plays out like it did, they got the
Speaker 3: ball back, they scored a touchdown, they would have been
Speaker 3: down with four point fifteen left in the game. They're
Speaker 3: down only six, needing a touchdown and just an extra
Speaker 3: point to win the game. Here was my other thought,
Speaker 3: and I don't know, Twitter is going nuts. Oh.
Speaker 4: I was thinking, you've got limited time and you're going
Speaker 4: to have limited possessions, right, So if I kicked the
Speaker 4: field goal and make it, I can on side kick
Speaker 4: and get a steal of possession back. But if I
Speaker 4: miss on the fourth.
Speaker 3: Down, yeah, I'm toast. I just felt like.
Speaker 4: I thought that's what he was thinking.
Speaker 3: I'm gone, Well, you know what I was thinking. Number one,
Speaker 3: they were bogged in and they weren't. They weren't converting,
Speaker 3: And secondly, what were the odds that they were going
Speaker 3: to make three two point conversions?
Speaker 2: Right? Right?
Speaker 3: And so you were you were probably going to have
Speaker 3: to kick a field goal, and if this miraculous comeback
Speaker 3: was going to happen, they were going to have to
Speaker 3: kick a field goal at some point, and as it
Speaker 3: turned out, there was plenty of time left because they
Speaker 3: finally got a stop and Ryan days much like Lincoln
Speaker 3: Riley where he gets a lead in the game and
Speaker 3: he goes into a shell. They quit running their offense
Speaker 3: and they're just running that little quarterback draw Kansas State
Speaker 3: quarterback run all the time, and so they're not converting
Speaker 3: until they had to throw it deep to the best
Speaker 3: wide receiver in the country in the end of the game.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I wanted to be there and ask him, were
Speaker 4: you thinking of on side kicking because there was like
Speaker 4: four minutes to go and they still needed too.
Speaker 3: Well at that point they were like nine minutes. There
Speaker 3: was eight or nine minutes left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they missed.
Speaker 3: When they missed the field goal, Yeah, yep, there was
Speaker 3: that much time because they got the ball back, scored
Speaker 3: and got it within eight with four and four minutes,
Speaker 3: and I think.
Speaker 5: It just seemed like it was less time because they
Speaker 5: wanted to They just went because they weren't doing it at
Speaker 5: the point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so are if you're Washington and you just banged
Speaker 4: the field goal off the upright, let it bounce.
Speaker 3: In right.
Speaker 2: The bank the mithfield goal.
Speaker 4: Now the one they the commanders, the commanders, the one
Speaker 4: they made.
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, well you got me.
Speaker 4: There, Sorry, I changed I changed it here. So I
Speaker 4: was getting back to the NFL.
Speaker 3: And by the way, we are on at a different
Speaker 3: time because of the holiday yesterday. Yes, we moved to
Speaker 3: nine o'clock on Tuesday, just for this week. Next week
Speaker 3: we will be back at eleven am on Monday. This,
Speaker 3: as I mentioned off the top, is day number nine
Speaker 3: of the coach search. And do you think we will
Speaker 3: have a coach named by the next time we convene
Speaker 3: next Monday at eleven am? Or is it going longer
Speaker 3: than that?
Speaker 4: Well, if indeed they're serious about Kellen Moore, then it's
Speaker 4: going to go longer than they could make that that
Speaker 4: and that game is being played on Sunday.
Speaker 3: If he lost on Sunday, right by eleven am Monday,
Speaker 3: they could name him the coach, kind of like what
Speaker 3: Chicago did with Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2: So Ben's gone.
Speaker 3: Johnson's gone to Chicago, So Mike McCarthy's not the new
Speaker 3: coach of the Chicago.
Speaker 2: Bears, and everything was going to be.
Speaker 4: That was always a ploy to try to get the
Speaker 4: show the Cowboys that Mike McCarthy's got other options.
Speaker 5: And then we don't get to use Ben and Jerry.
Speaker 4: Married thinking about that forever.
Speaker 3: Come, did you ever express to Jerry that thought that
Speaker 3: was a great I just knew some sponsorship.
Speaker 5: From one of the radio shows is gonna say. I've
Speaker 5: been way up man, I've been having that. I think
Speaker 5: I wrote it down.
Speaker 3: Jerry might have actually interviewed him if you give him
Speaker 3: that sponsorship idea.
Speaker 4: All right, So I don't think that was gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. So uh, what would you say?
Speaker 4: Well? Number one, the Bear's job to me would be
Speaker 4: safer because now I've got a young quarterback that I'm
Speaker 4: in charge of developing, right, instead of inheriting a job
Speaker 4: that everybody expects. Okay, we're going now thirteen and four
Speaker 4: because I've got the quarterback. So I think from a
Speaker 4: you know, a five year deal that's safe. I think
Speaker 4: the Bears was probably a better choice.
Speaker 3: We have breaking news, yes, you reported now the Cowboys
Speaker 3: are expected to interview their own offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer,
Speaker 3: for their vacant head coaching job.
Speaker 4: Okay, so last week I was told that there's another
Speaker 4: candidate whose name hadn't come up yet that would be
Speaker 4: the one. And I think this might be.
Speaker 3: The one because his name had not come up yet,
Speaker 3: and the first time I think it may have been
Speaker 3: mentioned by others, but.
Speaker 4: No, it had not.
Speaker 3: The first time that I heard his name mentioned was
Speaker 3: on the Fox pregame show just prior to kick off
Speaker 3: on Sunday when and it was now that I look
Speaker 3: back at it, Kurt Menafee.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was a strange placement in the pregame show, right,
Speaker 3: because that we are leading up to kickoff of the
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Rams game, and usually earlier in the show they
Speaker 3: take care of all the coaching rumors going on. And
Speaker 3: Kurt Menafee said, he set up Jimmy Johnson to say
Speaker 3: something about the Cowboys coach search and Jimmy and this
Speaker 3: is the first time I heard Schottennheimer's name mentioned. He said,
Speaker 3: I think it's going to come down the relationship with
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott is the key here, and so look for
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer or Kellen Moore.
Speaker 4: And I went, huh, And he said it.
Speaker 3: With Jimmy has operation yes.
Speaker 4: With a lot of emotion.
Speaker 3: Confident, yeah, confidence, confidence, I mean he was Jimmy was
Speaker 3: I think, Jimmy, do you know on air, I'm just
Speaker 3: speculating because of the timing. It was late in their
Speaker 3: pregame show. Now, maybe you mentioned it earlier. I don't know.
Speaker 2: That is just what I saw.
Speaker 4: That's what I saw, and.
Speaker 3: I thought, uh, he has found out something here because
Speaker 3: no one else was talking about Shottenheimer. So and then
Speaker 3: sure enough by the next morning, Uh, the odds.
Speaker 4: The odds in Vegas just shot up like he was.
Speaker 3: He was the odds on choice to be the next
Speaker 3: head coach.
Speaker 4: This came down from the mouth right that Jimmy said it.
Speaker 4: Uh huh, odds are here's our betting favorite here.
Speaker 5: I thought I was telling you Jimmy never really speaks
Speaker 5: on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't. That was another thing that Okay, Jimmy's
Speaker 3: not like an investigative.
Speaker 2: No, you know, he's not going to be hey, I
Speaker 2: got something.
Speaker 3: All he's doing is he's doing his answer in his phone.
Speaker 4: And as it as it turns out, I heard that
Speaker 4: his name did get mentioned last week inside the building. Okay, sure, So,
Speaker 4: I mean it was kind of I when Jimmy said it,
Speaker 4: I was thinking, okay, well, that's just kind of putting
Speaker 4: two and two together. Right, he's the offensive coordinator that
Speaker 4: has a relationship with.
Speaker 3: But the way it was packaged, yes, I know, you
Speaker 3: know that was like, okay, it was intentional. Yes, he's
Speaker 3: got some new information here and he wanted to get
Speaker 3: it out there.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean is it legitimate information?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 3: I think it?
Speaker 2: I think it.
Speaker 3: Well, clearly it is now that we are learning they're
Speaker 3: being reported widely that the Cowboys are interviewing.
Speaker 4: I mean, did they have to report they were going
Speaker 4: to interview. He's in the building, right, It's not like
Speaker 4: they got to bring him in.
Speaker 2: But Jimmy said it's important.
Speaker 3: Well, he said it, like, is he still in the building? Well,
Speaker 3: I think didn't all the contracts expire?
Speaker 4: I know, but you still be here?
Speaker 3: I mean you can, yeah, but you can still be here.
Speaker 4: I would think you still get good lunch, like like
Speaker 4: we lunch.
Speaker 3: We last night on our show, I went and found
Speaker 3: some old sound bite from Brian Schottenheimer talking about Dak
Speaker 3: Prescott talking about his relationship with Dak or whatever, just
Speaker 3: for mainly for people. Even though he talks every week,
Speaker 3: we don't typically use Brian Schottenheimer sound bites on TV,
Speaker 3: And so I wanted to show people, Okay, this is
Speaker 3: how this guy talks, which is one of his strengths.
Speaker 3: You know, he's very good communicating.
Speaker 2: Okay, But.
Speaker 3: And just to give people a paint a picture, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is who Brian Schottenheimer is. And I can't remember
Speaker 3: where I was going with that.
Speaker 2: Well, do you consider this low hanging fruit?
Speaker 5: Is this something that's legitimate even though it is it
Speaker 5: has been brought out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, makes the relationship with Yeah, I take it. One
Speaker 3: of the keys on this is they paid a lot
Speaker 3: of money to their quarterback and he's a part of
Speaker 3: this process and it's how he's going to be most effective.
Speaker 3: And if Dak I think Dak probably he's given a
Speaker 3: ringing endorsement to Shottenheimer.
Speaker 5: I'm sure the last thing you want is a big
Speaker 5: shake up while you're trying to come back from a
Speaker 5: major injury. You know, you want to be as comfortable
Speaker 5: as possible. You don't want to have to go through
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of.
Speaker 3: But the other thing, with the other thing with Schottenheimer, Okay,
Speaker 3: if you want him to remain or start calling plays
Speaker 3: now or whatever, I mean, he doesn't have to be
Speaker 3: the head coach to do that, right, that's me.
Speaker 4: I was thinking he could.
Speaker 3: Remain the offensive coordinator and now you've basically giving him
Speaker 3: a promotion where he's calling plays now under another head coach. Well,
Speaker 3: and because what as Mike McCarthy may be finding out
Speaker 3: right now? Okay, where's he going to land?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 4: And if he gets hired as the head coach, do
Speaker 4: they want him to be the offensive coordinator?
Speaker 3: Right? Does?
Speaker 4: Because my bottom line on Friday when I wrote, I said,
Speaker 4: you can give me all these people that are candidates, right,
Speaker 4: but the question everybody's got to answer is who's the
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator? Because if you hire a defensive guy, that's
Speaker 4: the first question I ask you, who are you going
Speaker 4: to hire and so? And if it's an offensive guy,
Speaker 4: are you the head coach? And then you got an
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator? Or are you the offensive coordinator? But the
Speaker 4: key thing here is who's going to run this offense?
Speaker 4: Because if you know, when you got rid of Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 4: you also got rid of basically the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 5: It seems like we're just going for comfort here. You know,
Speaker 5: I don't want to be too comfortable, you know, I
Speaker 5: get it.
Speaker 2: They don't want to change things.
Speaker 5: You know, if we wouldn't have had all these injuries
Speaker 5: last year. I get I get it where they see
Speaker 5: if we could just get most of those guys back
Speaker 5: and won't be so chaotic as it was this past season,
Speaker 5: then we could keep things as close to normal as
Speaker 5: possible as far as keeping the same coaches, as far
Speaker 5: as keeping the same coordinators, you know.
Speaker 4: Or did he have other ideas that they weren't following.
Speaker 4: He was just following what McCarthy said, because if you
Speaker 4: think about the offense.
Speaker 2: He took it over. He took it over the last two.
Speaker 3: Years, last two years. And Schottenheimer see three years ago
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, Shottenheimer was in the building as
Speaker 3: an analyst, primarily looking at the defense at that during
Speaker 3: that season, and then Kellen Moore walked away and went
Speaker 3: to the Chargers in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: And shot Mike wanted to take over it enough.
Speaker 3: And so then Schottenheimer became the quote unquote offensive coordinator,
Speaker 3: though McCarthy was a play caller. And that's the way
Speaker 3: it's been the last two years. And by the way,
Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty three season, DAK was second in
Speaker 3: the MVP voting.
Speaker 4: So now, and here's the other thing that.
Speaker 3: They and they cut down on those interceptions that they
Speaker 3: had with Kellen Morris.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh see, that they did. But remember Kellen, Yeah,
Speaker 4: a lot of those interceptions weren't daxx. Though the criticism
Speaker 4: of Kellen was always he wanted to throw.
Speaker 2: The ball too much.
Speaker 4: What did they do in Philadelphia? Ran the ball at
Speaker 4: the NFL record well until until because they could run
Speaker 4: the ball.
Speaker 3: Vicky until the last drive of the game. The other day,
Speaker 3: and they're in the snow. They've got Saquon Barkley who's
Speaker 3: run for two hundred and five yards in that game.
Speaker 3: And on first down they handed off to Barkley for
Speaker 3: three yards. It's second and seven, and then Kellen Moore
Speaker 3: called a quarterback bootleg and with a quarterback I'm playing
Speaker 3: on a bad knee, and it was a sack and
Speaker 3: the Rams got back in the game because of that
Speaker 3: play call.
Speaker 4: But they ran for two hundred yards exactly.
Speaker 3: But you would too if Jalen Hurts was your quarterback
Speaker 3: in sake, when Barkley was your running back.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But my point is when, and this is what happened
Speaker 3: a lot of times when Moore was here. I think
Speaker 3: you go back to what is in your DNA in critical.
Speaker 2: Oh you mean it's too cute.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, passing is in his DNA well, and so
Speaker 3: on second and second down and seven at the thirty
Speaker 3: three where they need to run the football and not
Speaker 3: give the football back to the Rams, they run a
Speaker 3: bootleg where and get sacked and now you got to
Speaker 3: put the football away.
Speaker 6: I think that the term is he tries. How smart
Speaker 6: of it? That's right, That's what that play was. Just
Speaker 6: just give Barkley the ball in the snow. Anyway, And
Speaker 6: by the way, speaking of that.
Speaker 3: Did you like Ben Johnson's play call on the double
Speaker 3: reverse wide receiver pass in the game against Washington the
Speaker 3: other night. Jamison Williams throws the interception. Talk, I mean,
Speaker 3: what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Cute?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, whoa, this is the offensive genius. Okay,
Speaker 3: they're finally getting some momentum, they're getting back into the game,
Speaker 3: and he decides to call a double reverse pass with
Speaker 3: the wide receiver throwing the ball in the coverage one
Speaker 3: of the already one of the best cornerbacks in the league,
Speaker 3: the rookie Mike Sainras still with Washington, who had two
Speaker 3: picks in that game. So, and you're having so you're
Speaker 3: having a wide receiver and Dan Campbell said after the game, well,
Speaker 3: I wish she would have made the decision to run it.
Speaker 3: You don't expect Jamison Williams to make any decision that's
Speaker 3: rational on the field in that situation. Don't put a
Speaker 3: wide receiver in the position where he has to make
Speaker 3: that decision.
Speaker 5: And you know that's just the waste of his talent
Speaker 5: right to throw the ball? What is he a quarterback?
Speaker 5: Does he have any don't think so.
Speaker 4: But it was a nice pass, yeah, short the spiral,
Speaker 4: Well that whole data. Look Washington, and I wrote it
Speaker 4: on Wednesday, this don't bet against this team because they're
Speaker 4: living a charmed existence. What are the chances? What are
Speaker 4: the chances that on what was it? Fourth and two
Speaker 4: at five and they're not listening to Tom Brady yelling
Speaker 4: you better call time out, You better call time out.
Speaker 4: You got too many guys in the field, right right,
Speaker 4: And then they got penalized and now it's first in
Speaker 4: goal at the two. How does that happen? You didn't
Speaker 4: do anything to create that they are living a charmed existence.
Speaker 5: Well, I must say, regardless of that, they were less
Speaker 5: charmed in this game.
Speaker 2: Than they were in any other game. Well, because I mean.
Speaker 4: That play they turned into a touchdown.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, but for that, for that play, what if
Speaker 5: you stopped them on fort for that play to give
Speaker 5: you a fourteen point win right against this team? You
Speaker 5: see what I'm saying, right, I mean, Detroit should have
Speaker 5: they still they played them as well as I've seen
Speaker 5: anyone play Detroit this year offensively on defense.
Speaker 4: Okay, and so but you still gave up thirty some points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you scored forty five.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 3: The speaking of that, I'm sitting near on Ben Johnson. Okay,
Speaker 3: he's supposed to be this genius, you know, and you
Speaker 3: gotta hire this guy or I can't believe you're not
Speaker 3: an interviewing that that called the double reverse wide pass. Okay. Well,
Speaker 3: then we got the other guy who I love, Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 3: But okay, he is the defensive coordinator and there are
Speaker 3: twelve men on the field there, and so who's responsible
Speaker 3: for this stuff?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And it's like it's like these other candidates, Okay, on
Speaker 3: a fifteen win team, they can do no wrong. Okay,
Speaker 3: they gotta gotta hire these guys. And they're just as
Speaker 3: human as the guys that you've.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you, And I think they got a
Speaker 5: very few, very as you look at they had coaches.
Speaker 5: As you look at all these championship games, there are
Speaker 5: very few coaches that are like the elite coach and
Speaker 5: and these are good teams. But I'm sorry, coaches make mistakes,
Speaker 5: and we have seen it in every game over and
Speaker 5: over again.
Speaker 2: Not the player.
Speaker 5: We're talking about, coaches making critical mistake in the huge games.
Speaker 5: We've been watching them since December. Yep, it's crazy, man.
Speaker 3: The greatest coaches of all time make mistakes all the time.
Speaker 5: Bro, So we we we will manticize the Toms, and
Speaker 5: then with Pittsburgh's coach, we we will manticize those guys.
Speaker 3: But man, Mike Tomlin, Mike Tomlins up a whole lot
Speaker 3: under as much fire as any coach in the league,
Speaker 3: and he's got twenty one straight winning small.
Speaker 4: But he can't win a playoff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, all right, it's got to work for.
Speaker 4: Even Nick Saban might have made a mistake.
Speaker 2: Once, Yeah, every once in a while.
Speaker 4: Don't be flushing the toilets any.
Speaker 2: Time, and don't get that barbecue pit.
Speaker 3: And we're back with more. Make sure.
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Speaker 3: All right, very good, Uh, Mickey, would you like to
Speaker 3: clarify anything on the shrine bowls here?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: He was called on the carping mouth during the break.
Speaker 3: Mickey was called on the carpet for saying that the
Speaker 3: practices would be at Ford Center. They are not because
Speaker 3: we've got Dallas Open Tennis that get started next week,
Speaker 3: and so they would be practicing on tennis courts if
Speaker 3: they were here. So they have They're going to be
Speaker 3: practicing at indoor facilities in the area. And I was
Speaker 3: told last week that you n T was one of
Speaker 3: the That's correct, you and T.
Speaker 4: So I can't just walk down the hall. No, you
Speaker 4: can't like I did last year.
Speaker 2: That's I was told.
Speaker 4: Isaiah standback is on that call, by the way, for
Speaker 4: the Shrine Bowl.
Speaker 3: All right, okay, very good. All right, So we've talked
Speaker 3: about anything else on Schottenheimer that you want to And
Speaker 3: again the breaking news this morning as the Cowboys have
Speaker 3: put in a request to interview Brian shot you have
Speaker 3: to they put a request with their own team guy coach.
Speaker 4: It's just going well, one guy that evidently he's not
Speaker 4: in his.
Speaker 3: Office as John Fossil, right, and the other the others
Speaker 3: of course, just to bring everybody up to speed on
Speaker 3: the long weekend, maybe you were out of pocket, but
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore did a virtual interview on Friday morning, and
Speaker 3: then on Saturday morning, Robert Salah, the former Jet said
Speaker 3: coach was here. And then yesterday it was Leslie Frasier,
Speaker 3: the assistant head coach of the Seattle Seahawks. So Schottenheimer,
Speaker 3: by our count, would be interviewed number four and but
Speaker 3: the third on the premises here.
Speaker 4: So I wonder if they asked my question to Salah
Speaker 4: and Leslie Fraser.
Speaker 3: About who would your offensive coordinator be?
Speaker 4: Yes, better have a good ad, And they.
Speaker 3: Answered Brian Schottenheimer. Right, here's their answer. Here's the answer.
Speaker 3: The offensive coordinator is whoever Dak Prescott wants it to
Speaker 3: be right.
Speaker 4: There you go. What if he says Kellen Moore.
Speaker 2: He won't say Kelling Moore. He will not say you don't.
Speaker 3: Think so, now don't Well Kellen Moore got an interview,
Speaker 3: he got it.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm sorry to yeah, right coordinator?
Speaker 3: All right, yes, okay, that's why I want to make
Speaker 3: sure you're clarified, not making a sideways yeah. You know
Speaker 3: how people will just take a little clip, that little
Speaker 3: sound bite. Well, Everson Wallace s is that like Kelling Moore?
Speaker 2: Well, and I did not not say that.
Speaker 4: And here was here was my Here was my point
Speaker 4: too on answering the question about the offense offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: Five of five of the top seven salaries in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four were offensive guys. So if I'm spending all
Speaker 4: that money on the offense, I better find somebody.
Speaker 2: To run that off offensive right.
Speaker 4: And then next year I figured out seven of the
Speaker 4: top twelve guys were in cap hits are offensive guys.
Speaker 4: So if I'm spending all my money there, then I
Speaker 4: better be able to take care of my top salaries
Speaker 4: and I better be pretty good on offense if I'm healthy.
Speaker 2: I mean, I look at the Detroit game. I was
Speaker 2: very surprised.
Speaker 5: I'm always I always seem like I'm on the outside
Speaker 5: looking in when it comes to favorites. Yeah, I was
Speaker 5: really carrying the banner for Jared Goff for MVP this season,
Speaker 5: which he was doing, which he was doing pretty well
Speaker 5: at the time, right Uh, I mean just really looking
Speaker 5: good through some really good passes in clutch situations all
Speaker 5: season long, even the games as they lost by.
Speaker 3: The way, playing in the one of the worst divisions
Speaker 3: in football, as it turns out if you look at
Speaker 3: the playoffs.
Speaker 5: But it wasn't like that before the playoffs.
Speaker 3: It turns out the Cowboys were playing in the best division.
Speaker 2: And figure that conference. Go figure that, huh right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they went five hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Man, come on, look at the teams that we did
Speaker 5: beat outside of our division. Come on, this team was
Speaker 5: right for agetting out yo yo, Gary go. I was
Speaker 5: gonna say, well, now I see why everyone no one
Speaker 5: wanted him for MVP.
Speaker 2: He's just the way it was.
Speaker 5: He ended up going back to the same old things
Speaker 5: and he did back when he was with the Rams.
Speaker 5: You know, you could see as he and Sam Donald
Speaker 5: to me are from the same cloth, cut from the
Speaker 5: same cloth. These guys don't like pressure. They don't perform
Speaker 5: well underpression. And when I, of course, I'm gonna always
Speaker 5: compare this to what I've seen Dak do. Everyone talked
Speaker 5: about how elite these guys were. Dak has been putting
Speaker 5: been up against this kind of pressure for five For
Speaker 5: the past five years, he's always looking at that kind
Speaker 5: of pressure in big games. He's always had the most
Speaker 5: pressures as a quarterback right put upon him. For I'd
Speaker 5: say he have to be in the top five in
Speaker 5: the last three years as far as being hit by
Speaker 5: more than most most quarterbacks. So when I look at him,
Speaker 5: I look at Sam Donald, I look at Jared Goff.
Speaker 5: You know, I was so disappointed in golf because I
Speaker 5: thought he was gonna show me something different, and he didn't.
Speaker 5: After all of these years, he's still that same quarterback.
Speaker 4: And the same thing happened to darnalda thing that was
Speaker 4: the guy you were used to seeing, and it showed
Speaker 4: up last game.
Speaker 2: Right, it wasn't even close.
Speaker 4: It was like, what are you doing? And that was
Speaker 4: the question you used to ask about that guy.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 5: When that's why defense is so good, That's why good
Speaker 5: defense is so important. You stop a lot of things
Speaker 5: from happening. I'll say this, A good defense stops.
Speaker 2: Some history making plays. They stop history from happening.
Speaker 5: Ye know, if we if you play good defense, then
Speaker 5: then great plays don't happen.
Speaker 4: I hate to point this part out because it sounds
Speaker 4: so clich ish, but watching the college playoffs, the NFL playoffs,
Speaker 4: if you ain't strong up front on both sides.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it, ass Texas, that's Texas, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't.
Speaker 3: They yours was under pressure and that's why. And those
Speaker 3: are two tackles that are supposed to be first round
Speaker 3: draft picks.
Speaker 4: And I keep hearing people saying about yours. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: and any fumbled in the biggest play, and I'm going no,
Speaker 4: it's right. Tackle didn't block the guy?
Speaker 5: My brother from you. He went to ut He hates
Speaker 5: the do what what is wrong?
Speaker 4: He gets blind sighted by a guy that should have
Speaker 4: been blocked.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 5: But you know, we'll see when it comes to us
Speaker 5: next year. But man, as far as a college quarterback,
Speaker 5: as far as the University of Texas, I think that's
Speaker 5: the quarterback they needed at boy I hope Archie Manning
Speaker 5: is at arch arch Manning.
Speaker 2: I hope that he.
Speaker 5: Comes in here and does well because they are depending
Speaker 5: on this young man a lot.
Speaker 3: By the way, my understanding is that, uh, just going
Speaker 3: back to that, we got to go to a break
Speaker 3: here on that goal line situation for Texas and Ohio State.
Speaker 2: Uh, arch arch was not available. They didn't.
Speaker 3: You got him, he got he got hurt earlier on
Speaker 3: the Remember the play he ran the ball, he popped
Speaker 3: up the ball down. Yes, I understand he was in
Speaker 3: protocol and so he was on. No one's ever said
Speaker 3: anything about that, But that's my understanding from inside sources
Speaker 3: down there.
Speaker 4: And just look at Notre Dame last night. The left
Speaker 4: tackle who hadn't played all year. You had to go
Speaker 4: in there and play against their best pass rush, and
Speaker 4: he struggled right and turned a guard and he yeah,
Speaker 4: kicked out the tackle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then you got Kansas City. They got one of
Speaker 3: the best guards in the league, Joe Toney. They've had
Speaker 3: to kick him out, attack and struggle and so anyway,
Speaker 3: all right, we continue with more mix shines in a moment.
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Speaker 3: Bam, that's next week.
Speaker 4: They didn't give you the dates.
Speaker 2: They give me no dates, man.
Speaker 3: The livids February first through the ninth or something like that. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: which is why this February.
Speaker 2: That's it?
Speaker 4: Well when's the when's the Shrine Bowl?
Speaker 3: It's January thirtieth, So yeah, I guess I have to
Speaker 3: set up early for the Dallas.
Speaker 2: You don't even have a for the trying.
Speaker 4: For at and T Stadium.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well we've been We've gotten a lot of a lot
Speaker 3: of time to the Thursday night, Thursday night, a week
Speaker 3: from Thursday, okay, okay, so the prospects will be arriving
Speaker 3: probably on Friday something like that.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: All right, uh, this little note that sounds like the
Speaker 3: Jets have targeted Aaron Glenn as their new head coach.
Speaker 3: He's talking with them today and the goal he played there,
Speaker 3: Yes he did. He was drafted first round draft pick
Speaker 3: of the Jets out of Texas A and M. And
Speaker 3: the goal is to keep him from leaving the building
Speaker 3: today the next head coach of the New York Jets.
Speaker 4: I just really like him, like him as a person,
Speaker 4: like the way he coaches the way he speaks, I
Speaker 4: think he would be good. And again, we got to
Speaker 4: remember when you're hiring a head coach, it's got to
Speaker 4: be somebody can stand in front of seventy people five
Speaker 4: days a week and hold their attention like, Okay, this
Speaker 4: guy knows what he's talking about, or at least you
Speaker 4: say it like you know what you're talking about. Not
Speaker 4: every coordinator is a head coach.
Speaker 5: It's you know, some guys have to manage, you know.
Speaker 5: He Some guys are good at head coaching. Some are
Speaker 5: two different skill set of.
Speaker 2: Being hands on.
Speaker 5: You know, you have to, like you said, you have
Speaker 5: to capture their attention every day, all day.
Speaker 2: And you have to have to be able to manage
Speaker 2: a team.
Speaker 5: You have to be able to manage people, you know,
Speaker 5: And as defensive coordinator, I'm sure he's done that on
Speaker 5: a partial from a partial standpoint, and I would imagine
Speaker 5: the way he saw Dan Campbell do it.
Speaker 2: He's been back there with him the entire time.
Speaker 3: And we're going to get to the Bills and the
Speaker 3: Ravens here in just second, But real quick, what did
Speaker 3: you see in Bill Parcells in the way he managed people?
Speaker 2: He was really good and how he was able to.
Speaker 5: Because with Parcels, he and George Young didn't like each other,
Speaker 5: so he had to deal with.
Speaker 3: A hostile GM.
Speaker 2: GM and I mean they hated each other. I mean
Speaker 2: it was so clear.
Speaker 5: When boom Bill left, George was like, yeah, I finally
Speaker 5: got what I needed.
Speaker 4: And then he made the mistake on who he hired
Speaker 4: after well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he made the mistake by not liking part.
Speaker 5: Sales, you know, not dealing and and and dealing with
Speaker 5: him better on on a more even basis. Uh pars
Speaker 5: Sales was able to keep management out of the player's way.
Speaker 5: He was always good at he He always said, I
Speaker 5: want the team and management to hate me, not.
Speaker 2: To hate each other.
Speaker 5: He was the goal between Okay, keep keep George, keep
Speaker 5: you away from my players, you know, let you. I'll
Speaker 5: talk to you about my players. That that's what you
Speaker 5: talked to me about. You don't go talk to my players.
Speaker 5: I'll take care of that. And when it came to management,
Speaker 5: if players had a beef, then we had to go
Speaker 5: strictly to Parcels. Don't go above him. You could if
Speaker 5: you wanted to. He wouldn't hold it against you. But
Speaker 5: the way he.
Speaker 2: Wanted it was you come talk to me about it.
Speaker 2: I will handle management. So he was just a real
Speaker 2: good middle man.
Speaker 4: And the one thing that he did here he brought
Speaker 4: in a couple of his guys and they were the
Speaker 4: locker room guys of course, right, they kind of not.
Speaker 2: He believed in that.
Speaker 4: Not only ran the locker room, but he was the
Speaker 4: go between between the players and himself.
Speaker 5: And most likely it was a linebacker. Is a linebacker
Speaker 5: type of person?
Speaker 4: Was it Gary? He had? He had somebody on defense offense?
Speaker 4: Was Richie Anderson?
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: So he could kind of monitor. He didn't go in
Speaker 4: the locker room, but he had locker room monitor, that's right.
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, and he commanded.
Speaker 5: It was usually call Banks or Pepper Johnson type that
Speaker 5: would he would take them with it. He took him
Speaker 5: to Cleveland. You saw what happened when Pepper went to Cleveland. Yeah,
Speaker 5: come back in here, and they whipped out butts, you know,
Speaker 5: after they got rid of me. So I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: they don't need you ever.
Speaker 3: But I guess my question for you is more along
Speaker 3: the lines of how he dealt with players on a
Speaker 3: daily basis as far because a lot of it was
Speaker 3: the antagonism type. But he also if it was he
Speaker 3: one of those types that if he's given you a
Speaker 3: hard time, that means he likes you.
Speaker 5: If he's given you a hard time, yes, that means
Speaker 5: you better. That means you better tighten up. Okay, that's
Speaker 5: what that means.
Speaker 3: But he's also there's a good nature.
Speaker 5: Yeah that if he if he doesn't give you a
Speaker 5: hard time.
Speaker 2: You're out. That's right, Yeah, that's right. That's the point
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 3: But he's engaging.
Speaker 2: He engaged with you, then he he wants to work
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got you've got a future.
Speaker 5: He's he's he's you know, he's checking out you. He's
Speaker 5: checking your temperature. I see what you're about. And so
Speaker 5: you know, when I first got there, he did the
Speaker 5: same thing with me. Uh he went around asking uh,
Speaker 5: some of the players that not just came in with me,
Speaker 5: but those were that were there, asking them what kind
Speaker 5: of person did they think I was?
Speaker 2: What kind of player did they think I was?
Speaker 5: He asked Thorn Channel, He asked Steve Diassi, but he
Speaker 5: also asked Pepa Johnson, and he also asked Called Banks.
Speaker 3: But that's all part of managing people.
Speaker 2: No doubt, Because he talked to different types of people.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: That's why. That's the way he treated the media too.
Speaker 2: But that didn't work for them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, if you were smart, you understood if he
Speaker 4: was on you, he was paying attention.
Speaker 3: At least it may sound to an outsider like, well
Speaker 3: he really gave Mickey a hard time, but he was.
Speaker 3: Actually I told you that new Jersey.
Speaker 2: That's new Jersey.
Speaker 5: He's a New Jersey guy. You know, they're gonna be
Speaker 5: real with you. But come on, I'm gonna be real
Speaker 5: with you. I'm not trying to go behind anybody else's back.
Speaker 5: I'm coming to you. But you have some who if
Speaker 5: I'm plus salesmann come to you in that manner, they're
Speaker 5: still uncomfortable and they will go and complain and they will,
Speaker 5: you know, take note unnecessarily.
Speaker 4: That's the half Italian in them.
Speaker 2: I think it is.
Speaker 5: It is, it is, I mean, and you gotta love
Speaker 5: it because it's real. You know, give me a coach
Speaker 5: that's not gonna be ask me man, I really and
Speaker 5: some some players can see it coming.
Speaker 3: And then and the players who can't handle it, they
Speaker 3: don't need to be honest. Team.
Speaker 5: That's why the culture there when I went, when I
Speaker 5: came from here, and simply because we had gone through
Speaker 5: so much here with the Cowboys. There are a lot
Speaker 5: of builty excuses, a lot of finger pointing, a lot
Speaker 5: of blaming every just everywhere. But when you when I
Speaker 5: went to New York, the whole thing was nobody's blaming anybody.
Speaker 5: We are in this locker room. It's the most solid
Speaker 5: locker room I've ever seen. And I've never been on
Speaker 5: the defense. I've never been on the defense like that before.
Speaker 5: I mean, I played with some great players here. I've
Speaker 5: never been on the defense and had that kind of
Speaker 5: culture to where they were the stars of the team.
Speaker 5: The culture was defense, and if you stopped them on
Speaker 5: third and two, you got a standing ovation in the stands,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: And I think that's why I'm not sure about Bloodshell.
Speaker 3: But like guys like Drew Henson, Chad Hutchinson, they were
Speaker 3: not never gonna shrunk. Yeah yeah, but Romo hard. It
Speaker 3: was for Phil Simms, but Romo is not the sensitive
Speaker 3: type where Romo will flourish under it. Yeah, okay. And
Speaker 3: Witton was the same way. It's tough guy. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: love with them, sure right, all right? Tell me about
Speaker 3: the Bill's Ravens.
Speaker 2: What do you think. I feel so sorry for Andrews.
Speaker 2: So sorry. Good pass, right, good pass. It was good.
Speaker 3: It could have been you know, he kind of he
Speaker 3: kind of aimed it, you know, and it was right.
Speaker 2: There's the championship.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like I think it's the same way
Speaker 3: that Roger talks about the past that Jackie Rogers. I
Speaker 3: thought that immediately, but but but Roger would say that,
Speaker 3: you know, I should have given him a better pass.
Speaker 5: But he still got to catch it, right. You come on, guys,
Speaker 5: I remember Drew Pierson. I'll never forget you Pierson. He
Speaker 5: talked about how wide receivers complained about they want to
Speaker 5: pass it. He said, anywhere in here youth is a
Speaker 5: good pass that you.
Speaker 2: Can be as low as you want. Just kiss the damn.
Speaker 4: Ball, bro And he's their best receiver.
Speaker 2: And he's the best receiver. Well, Jackie, he made more
Speaker 2: than one mistake in this game though. Yeah, he made
Speaker 2: like three mistakes. We had to fumble bumble, Yeah, another.
Speaker 3: Mispass, saying like with Jackie Smith, people forget that he's
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame, but so does Mark. Andrews
Speaker 3: drops that ball and Jackie Smith starts trending on Twitter
Speaker 3: and trended in.
Speaker 2: And my brother was like, oh, he's from Ou. A,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, he from you. What do you expect? I
Speaker 2: already used it.
Speaker 3: I was texting with Babeloffenbury what I said earlier in
Speaker 3: the show that, uh, you know Ryan Day, Yeah, he
Speaker 3: quit running his offense late in that game, you know,
Speaker 3: and he got close on him. And I said, that's
Speaker 3: what link. That was the most frustrate One of the
Speaker 3: most frustrating thrink things with Lincoln Riley at OU is
Speaker 3: that he would he would shut down the offense once
Speaker 3: he got a lead in the game. Case in point,
Speaker 3: they played in the College Football Playoff semi final, one
Speaker 3: of the great ones at the Rose Bowl against Georgia,
Speaker 3: which wound up being a fifty to forty eight game
Speaker 3: or something like that. But they got way up on
Speaker 3: him and then he shut down the offense, and I said,
Speaker 3: I texted the baby. I said, yeah, And in that
Speaker 3: game he had Baker Mayfield, CD Lamb and Jackie Smith.
Speaker 4: Mark Andrews gotta be like Jimmy and throw the slant
Speaker 4: to Elvin Harper in the ninety two seed title again, right.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we could have been looking at
Speaker 5: a really classic over time.
Speaker 4: So when we.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, can you imagine if that game went overtime?
Speaker 4: Man, So when we reconvene on Monday, Nick shots at eleven,
Speaker 4: we're going to have a new head coach. No, I
Speaker 4: don't think so. Yeah, I think we could.
Speaker 3: Do you think we could? I think Jason Witten will
Speaker 3: be named the new head coach by Monday at eleven eight.
Speaker 4: I think he'll have a spot. I think he'll have
Speaker 4: a spot on the spot on the on the staff.
Speaker 2: You think he wants that, I mean just the tight
Speaker 2: end coach.
Speaker 3: I don't think he wants just the tight end coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well eventually, No, but.
Speaker 3: I don't think you got to think about what he's
Speaker 3: given up. He's got two more years coaching his son,
Speaker 3: so I think I think just me, just me talking here,
Speaker 3: I think he the only way that he would give
Speaker 3: that up coaching his youngest son for his older son
Speaker 3: is going to Rice. So he's already graduated, he's got
Speaker 3: one more one of the top recruits in the country,
Speaker 3: a safety. He's got him for two more years. He
Speaker 3: would be given that up. So if he were giving
Speaker 3: that up, he would be want to be more than
Speaker 3: just a tight ends coach. He would want to be
Speaker 3: a position on the staff where he is.
Speaker 5: I'll give me some promises. It'd better be a hell
Speaker 5: of a promise. I'd better be considered for something.
Speaker 3: Or he's getting better, He's getting more. Uh, he's getting
Speaker 3: better experience than just being in the tight end room
Speaker 3: for an eventual goal of being a head coach in the.
Speaker 4: NFL is Remember they keep comparing that to Dan Campbell.
Speaker 4: Dan Campbell coached in the NFL quite a while before
Speaker 4: he got the head.
Speaker 3: Come out, and Whitten was in the NFL for seventeen years.
Speaker 3: So it's it's gotta go quick learning curve here, all right?
Speaker 3: Bell went off at eleven am on Monday.
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