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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hammer Territory podcast.

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Speaker 1: This episode two six six. I am your host, Brad

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Speaker 1: willand coming to you deep into the night on a

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Speaker 1: Wednesday into Thursday, and I'm joined today by Stephen Tolbert,

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Speaker 1: a man who's doing his third podcast in as many

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Speaker 1: days on this feed. We are working Stephen in the

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Speaker 1: boat because Scott Coleman had the nerve to leave the country. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: what's going on?

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Speaker 2: What's up, buddy? Yeah, Scott is just I mean, he

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Speaker 2: has just abandoned us at our darkest hour it has been.

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Speaker 2: It's been a rough couple of weeks here in Brave's Country,

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Speaker 2: as everyone knows by now. Tonight's game was no different.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna spend an awful lot of time on

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Speaker 2: the game, to be honest, but we do have some

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Speaker 2: interest stuff to get to. There's so actually some decent

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Speaker 2: news that came out today that we're gonna kind of

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Speaker 2: break down. We have it, spent a lot of time

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Speaker 2: on it. We're going to talk about it tonight.

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Speaker 1: We are. It's been busy on the feed. So if

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Speaker 1: you are new to the podcast, check us out, subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the show. We definitely appreciate it. We covered the

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Speaker 1: Braves all year round and there were episodes on Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: Monday Night, and Tuesday night. So this is our fourth

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Speaker 1: show in as many days. We've been busy on the feed,

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Speaker 1: so catch up on that. But as Steven just allude to,

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Speaker 1: not a ton of game talk tonight, the Braves lost

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Speaker 1: their fourth straight series. That's okay for where they are

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Speaker 1: right now, it doesn't actually matter very much the results

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Speaker 1: at the moment. Chris Sale was good, always pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Nothing else really was a terribly high note, and we'll

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Speaker 1: move on from there. But there was a news story

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Speaker 1: that we bumped up in the rundown to the top

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Speaker 1: kind of a centerpiece of Braves talk on social media

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Speaker 1: and comment sections, et cetera. And that was the Brian Sticker,

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Speaker 1: manager of the Braves, of course, was asked about his

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Speaker 1: plans for next year basically today before the game on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: I won't read the entire quote, but he referenced quote

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Speaker 1: unfinished business. He also talked about basically it was not

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Speaker 1: the standard like I'm going to retire answer that Braves

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Speaker 1: fans were hoping he would give. And I know we've

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Speaker 1: said this a lot on the show, but I want

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Speaker 1: to be very clear before we start this, Steven, we've

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Speaker 1: always said this and give him the caveat Everyone has

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Speaker 1: been assuming he was likely to retire. It's never been announced,

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Speaker 1: it's never been indicated by a team. There's been some

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Speaker 1: I actually thought, I've actually thought some overly aggressive frame

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Speaker 1: certainly retiring. He still might retire, but this is today

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Speaker 1: was a reminder to me. That's my takeaway, and I'll

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Speaker 1: go to you that like he has not said anything

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Speaker 1: approaching I'm going to retire, and there's some interesting details

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Speaker 1: to both what he said, which wasn't necessarily groundbreaking, it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously this has now become a very serious

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Speaker 2: And one thing that Bowman mentioned today is that maybe

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Speaker 2: so that the fans everybody could kind of give Snitker

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Speaker 2: But there was this idea that just first, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's grateful point and one that I think has

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Speaker 1: on some On some level, this is an organizational lifer.

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Speaker 1: I understand he's been managing the team for a while, but,

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Speaker 1: he won a World Series, He's been objectively a successful

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Speaker 1: essentially right, But there's also the realities of this has

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Speaker 1: been a terrible season that's not on SNIT by any means,

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Speaker 1: but he's a part of it. He's there. And also

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Speaker 1: I think for a lot of this would have been

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Speaker 1: it would have been a big story in February that

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Speaker 1: Snicker had an expiring contract. But because he was never

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Speaker 1: to say, are we going to offer your contract amount?

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Speaker 1: Because Alex earlier this week, I think you guys even

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Speaker 1: I would love, we would all love. I'm sure Bumma

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Speaker 1: team next year. I tend to think it probably is

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Speaker 1: more muddy than fans want it to be. I think

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I'll throw it to you, Stephen, like

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Speaker 1: What happens now, like.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's just that's the interesting thing, because like the

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Speaker 2: Braves could have offered a contract to Snit at any

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Speaker 2: at any point, they could have just said, all right,

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Speaker 2: we know you haven't made a decision. Here's a contract.

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Speaker 2: If you want to sign it, sign it. If you don't,

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Speaker 2: he does not have it.

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Speaker 1: He would have signed it. I mean, just to say this,

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Speaker 2: And it like you, like you said, it is not

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Speaker 2: And then Snit comes in today and kind of blows

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Speaker 2: because I've imagined the scenario where like alex Is, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's absolutely he's absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Thought about everybody, every every every executive, even like eighties

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Speaker 2: And so I was I was laughing because I was

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Speaker 2: I mean, it really has. I guarantee you it's thrown

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Speaker 2: And now we are I mean now it is literally

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just to say this, this is not a

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Speaker 2: our hands. Offense didn't really show up, so it kind

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Speaker 2: of kind of, you know, fluttered out. But whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the the offense was not the best. The only

433
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Speaker 1: player who had multiple hits now matt Elson did reach

434
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Speaker 1: base three times, but Olier had multiple hits. This is

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Speaker 1: a professional segue, Stephen was Marcel Zuna. Marcel Zuna had

436
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Speaker 1: two hits today and he, you know, given the Seann

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Speaker 1: Murphy injury, which you guys covered in depth, Ozuna is

438
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Speaker 1: going to play well, probably should play more. He's gonna

439
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Speaker 1: play as much as he was probably already playing, but

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Speaker 1: he's back in there, and because he's playing more, I

441
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Speaker 1: think Pop, we're talking about this now. There's been a discussion,

442
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Speaker 1: in fact, you and I exchange tweets publicly about this

443
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Speaker 1: today about whether Marcel should be brought back. It's not

444
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Speaker 1: a new topic. It's been out there kind of bubbling

445
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: below the surface, but it kind of reached a larger

446
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Speaker 1: pitch in the last couple of days post Murphy injury.

447
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Speaker 1: What do you think, because like we've I've shared a

448
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Speaker 1: little bit, Bess, but I want to know what you

449
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: think broadly about this, because there is a split, and

450
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Speaker 1: that's predictable with a player like Marcel who's aspiring contract

451
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Speaker 1: all those things. But like, is there a scenario in

452
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Speaker 1: which you would want Marcel back or are you of

453
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Speaker 1: the camp where it's like, no, thank you, I'm clearing

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Speaker 1: my dhpot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, uh, I can't remember exactly the con. I

456
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Speaker 2: think Bowman said out a tweet about like the only

457
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Speaker 2: scenario where it makes sense is if he came back

458
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Speaker 2: on a really small deal, And so I replied, I

459
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Speaker 2: just I think personally, I'm just done having a full

460
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Speaker 2: time DH that cannot play anywhere on defense and you're

461
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Speaker 2: just kind of stuck with the lack of flexibility, especially

462
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Speaker 2: and honestly, the real reason behind this opinion is that

463
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Speaker 2: I want to have a fourth full time starting caliber

464
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Speaker 2: outfielder because one, the Braves have had an impossible time

465
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Speaker 2: keeping outfielders healthy, like for more than like two months

466
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Speaker 2: at a time, for I mean for years, Like we're

467
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Speaker 2: on like year five of this, and I'm kind of

468
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Speaker 2: sick of it. And what I want to do is

469
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Speaker 2: I want to go get another starting caliber outfielder. You know,

470
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Speaker 2: there's a bunch of free agency Kyle Tucker, Cody Bellinger,

471
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Speaker 2: there's a bunch Kyle Tuckers.

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Speaker 1: We're leading with that year player. That'd be fun.

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Speaker 2: The Braves should be in those talks that they're usually not,

474
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Speaker 2: but they should be. But yeah, just a not a

475
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Speaker 2: not a depth piece, not a fourth outfielder, a legitimate

476
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Speaker 2: starting caliber outfielder that can help carry some of the

477
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Speaker 2: outfield load and then have that person Jerks and Profile

478
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Speaker 2: and Ronald Cooyea Jr. Just rotate the DH next year

479
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Speaker 2: to try to keep everybody healthy. A kunya in profar

480
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: are not like elite defenders that you have to have

481
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Speaker 2: out there at all times. You're more than happy having

482
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Speaker 2: those guys a get off their feet every once in

483
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Speaker 2: a while and just hit and b let somebody else.

484
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Speaker 2: Like coding Gulger like actually makes a lot of sense,

485
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Speaker 2: as somebody who could actually play in the field could hit,

486
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Speaker 2: and you just have all four of those You just

487
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Speaker 2: have all three of those guys rotating those three positions

488
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Speaker 2: left field, right field, and DH next year, and it's

489
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Speaker 2: so much more flexibility because the people you're using at

490
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Speaker 2: DH can play the field, which allows you to do

491
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Speaker 2: a lot more laden games. When you just have a

492
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Speaker 2: DH only player and you're paying him a ton of

493
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Speaker 2: money and he has to be in the lineup every day,

494
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Speaker 2: there's just no flexibility and I'm I'm kind of sick

495
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Speaker 2: of that. And I know that you can get a

496
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Speaker 2: really good hitter and he can potentially change your lineup,

497
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Speaker 2: but also a lot of these DH types are like

498
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Speaker 2: on the wrong side of thirty thirty five. You don't

499
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Speaker 2: really know what you're gonna get year to year. Like

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Speaker 2: Marcelo Zuna this year is a perfect example. He just

501
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Speaker 2: wasn't the same. And that happens with dudes this old

502
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Speaker 2: like it just does. Like everybody's talking about Kyles Schwarber. One,

503
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Speaker 2: the Braves are not gonna be Kyle Sharper's gonna make

504
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: so much money the Braves. And two that's another like

505
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: already plus your old DH only player, like you're you're

506
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Speaker 2: you're just stuck. If that guy is hurt or not

507
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Speaker 2: as good as you thought, you're paying him a ton

508
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Speaker 2: of money. He's got to be in the lineup. I'm

509
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: just sick of that lack of flexibility.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I can already hear people saying,

511
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Speaker 1: what about the catchers too, because if they have two

512
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Speaker 1: catchers and you guys have discussed on if you already

513
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Speaker 1: won won't recycle all that that that's a factor too.

514
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Speaker 1: Like I am of the mind that you don't want

515
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Speaker 1: a catcher dhing every day because no matter who the

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Speaker 1: catcher is, they're not going to be as good of

517
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Speaker 1: a hitter as a DH would be. Even Drake Baldwin,

518
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Speaker 1: who like maybe maybe he may be awesome, and he

519
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Speaker 1: already he's very good. We know that Drake Balwin compared

520
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Speaker 1: to DHS at the plate, is not special, right, He's

521
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Speaker 1: he's still fine, but like he's special compared to catchers.

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Speaker 1: Catchers is ideally you do not want your catcher dhing

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Speaker 1: in a perfect world without injuries. So but another spot

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Speaker 1: where you can do that. I am with you one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent on this. I don't I don't want and

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Speaker 1: what I said to you in response to but Bowman

527
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Speaker 1: said when you said was the only way that I

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Speaker 1: would understand and support to a degree bringing back marcelo

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Speaker 1: Zuna is if basically he doesn't have a market and

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Speaker 1: he comes back on a deal that is small enough

531
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Speaker 1: where you as whoever's managed the team, by the way,

532
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Speaker 1: whether it's Stid or something else. Honestly, this would probably

533
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Speaker 1: work better if it wasn't Brian snicker for being a

534
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Speaker 1: person honest because SNET trusts Marcel too much exactly, but

535
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Speaker 1: that dynamics plays in there too. But that aside, if

536
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Speaker 1: you pay him a number where it's small enough where

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Speaker 1: you can bank on him not playing every day, if

538
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Speaker 1: you're playing more. If you're paying Morselo Zuna six million

539
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: dollars instead of sixteen million dollars, you can say Marcel

540
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Speaker 1: is our number one bench bat and he will DH

541
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Speaker 1: sometimes and that's fine for that job. If you're paying

542
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Speaker 1: him what he's making now, he can't be that like

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Speaker 1: you can't. Obviously, the season is different because if the

544
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Speaker 1: season was over, we've plenty called for him, and not

545
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Speaker 1: much because the season was over. But if they were

546
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Speaker 1: competitive right now he was healthy, you don't really have

547
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Speaker 1: an argument to not play him. Like he's gonna have

548
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Speaker 1: to play making the money he's making now, But I

549
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: don't think anybody would pay him the money he's making

550
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: now to be one hundred percent honest, I don't see

551
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Speaker 1: that market being there.

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Speaker 2: There's also the comment, like there's also like this whole

553
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: hip thing that has been out there all You're like,

554
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Speaker 2: he's gonna have hip surgery at the end of the.

555
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Speaker 1: Year, right, it's the hip. He'll be thirty five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he is the DH only with all DH

557
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: only is too, I mean Schwarber is too. But like

558
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: and look, it's it's not this simple, but it is

559
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Speaker 1: as simple when Marcel is putting up a one to

560
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: fifty WRC plus for two years, nobody cared because but

561
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Speaker 1: that's also what you kind of have to be. If

562
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Speaker 1: you're a DH only, you have to be that there's

563
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Speaker 1: no margin for air.

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Speaker 2: That's what you have to have to give up, the flex.

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Speaker 1: To give up the flexibility and that's I don't think

566
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Speaker 1: there's a reasonable world where you can project that anymore

567
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: from ourselves, right, and he could hit her, he's still

568
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: gonna hit her out, Like I think some people, including

569
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Speaker 1: me probably have kind of maybe glossed over that even

570
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Speaker 1: in a kind of a down injury plug season, his

571
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: first repuse is one fourteen. Like he's still he's still

572
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: an above average hitter, but as a full time DH

573
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Speaker 1: that's just not good enough. Like you need him to

574
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Speaker 1: mash and he's not doing that. Plus, uh, this isn't

575
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Speaker 1: his fault. The one position he actually can kind of

576
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: fake is first base, and they don't need that because

577
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: Midelsen knock on wood plays every inning of every day.

578
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Speaker 1: So uh, you know, it's.

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Speaker 2: It's so not only that, but like there there's this

580
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: whole thing where like Marcel is also just not Like

581
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: I made the joke the other day that, you know, Alex,

582
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: they came out that Alex and Doppolis lost sixty pounds,

583
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Speaker 2: and I made the joke on Twitter that Marcel found

584
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Speaker 2: them all because like he is not like aging, Like

585
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: it's not he's not agent. I don't He's not somebody

586
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: that looks like it's going to age well, it looks

587
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Speaker 2: like somebody is gonna, like maybe be out of baseball

588
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: in a couple of years. I just I'm I'm just

589
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: kind of ready to move on.

590
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am too, and I I believe that it's

591
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Speaker 1: the most likely and the best thing is to hit

592
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: for him to go somewhere else. Yeah, I just laying

593
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: out the scenario where I would understand it, which basically

594
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Speaker 1: is like I don't know that, I don't know the number.

595
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it's six million, maybe it's less than that, I

596
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: don't know. But what you do not want to be

597
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: doing is paying him enough where he has to and

598
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: I mean has to play. There is a role there

599
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: for somebody like Marcel. It does have to be Marcel

600
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Speaker 1: Zuna to be like number one bench bat and part

601
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: time DH. That's a role that can exist. That's fine,

602
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: But we are aligned in not wanting a full time

603
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Speaker 1: every day because look, you mentioned it. But just to

604
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Speaker 1: say this, like I think Ronnie should DH more. Yeah,

605
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Speaker 1: I think Profar defensively is pretty bad. Yeah, a lot

606
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: of time, and I think Ronnie probly should DAH more

607
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Speaker 1: than Profar, But you wouldn't. It's not a bad idea

608
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: to have Profar every once in a while be dhing. Eventually,

609
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: maybe you get to the spot where you might need

610
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: somebody else to do that too. Maybe you get a

611
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: hot streak for Murphy or Baldwin where you're like, you

612
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: know what, we want this kind of hit every day

613
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: for three weeks. Cool, but none of that can happen

614
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: at Marcel's on the team.

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Speaker 2: Well not only that, but like another outfielder not only

616
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Speaker 2: allows you to rotate DH, but it also is just

617
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: built in insurance. Oh yeah, if Akunya does get hurt,

618
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Speaker 2: if Michael Michael Harris has spent a lot of time

619
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Speaker 2: on the you know, it probably needs to be somebody

620
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Speaker 2: that could play center field.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, ideally you need a center fielder

622
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Speaker 1: because we know prof can't play there and they're not

623
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Speaker 1: gonna ask for I mean, there used to be a

624
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: Runams the insurance bolster there. That's no longer the case.

625
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: He's never played centerfield, so it is.

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Speaker 2: It is complicated, but it just makes it just there's

627
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Speaker 2: so many positives to doing it this way versus having

628
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Speaker 2: just a full time DH. Now listen, if they want

629
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Speaker 2: to go balls to the wall for Kyle Schwarber, I

630
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Speaker 2: I don't see it and I would be very hesitant

631
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Speaker 2: paying for another career year like Schwarber has gone nuts

632
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Speaker 2: this year, and I if I had to put money

633
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: on it, I'd say, this is probably gonna end up

634
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Speaker 2: being his career year. It's probably going downhill from here.

635
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: I'd be very careful paying for what is going to

636
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Speaker 2: be a career year. But if they want to, it's

637
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Speaker 2: not my money, go for it. I would just sure

638
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Speaker 2: I would like them. I would like a little more

639
00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: lineup flexibility.

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Speaker 1: I agree investing in an outfielder would make more sense

641
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: than paying at THEH. I just what I won't what

642
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: I won't do and we can move on, is is

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Speaker 1: rule out. More so, I've seen a lot of people saying, well,

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Speaker 1: there's no will be back. I'm like, well, they like

645
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Speaker 1: I mean, the team likes it. There is a world

646
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Speaker 1: in which he's back. I don't think that they probably should.

647
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: But again, I could see a scenario where, especially when

648
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: you throw off and look, I know this is a

649
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: polarizing topic, but the off field history would scare some

650
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: teams away.

651
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I could see.

652
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: And the hip and the age, I could see there

653
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: a world where there really isn't a big market for ourselves, UNA,

654
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: and if that happens, I think they would certainly probably

655
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: gleefully sign him for a big discount. And I would

656
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: feel better about it if it if it was not

657
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: Snit managing it that was the case, because this is

658
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: gonna play every day, and I would be I.

659
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: Would have to look around the league. But I feel

660
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: like not a lot of teams have just a full

661
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: time time anymore.

662
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: It something we were just saying, the teams know this.

663
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: The bar is so high for that. I mean when

664
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: even when the Braves signed him originally they thought he

665
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: was gonna play some left field. That wasn't like they

666
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: were signing him to only be a DH But now

667
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: we everyone knows he is a DH on. Everyone knows this.

668
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: Maybe there's a world in which you could play first

669
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: base somewhere, but that wouldn't be in Atlanta. So that

670
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: is that's it. And I mean, I don't I don't

671
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: want to do the math right now. Like you got Otani,

672
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: you got Schwarber, but like there are not that many

673
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: guys who are like legitimately as he does. But I'm

674
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: talking about like even even at the plate, like DH

675
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: only players are like kind of extinct, like Devers is

676
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: kind of a DH only but he didn't want to be.

677
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking at right now, only a handful of

678
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: guys have played more than ninety games at D this

679
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: year in the whole league. It's Otani, it's Shorber, It's Devers,

680
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: Christian Yelich Uh because he's got a back issue, Brett Rooker, Marcel,

681
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: and that's kind of it. Everybody else can either can

682
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: play outfield like Aaron Judges d H fifty times this year,

683
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: but like he's can still play the outfield like he.

684
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: Played center he played center field last year.

685
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: George Springer can play the outfield, like he's not good

686
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: out there anymore, but he can play there. Mike shut

687
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: is on this list. Mike is mostly a corner I mean,

688
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: but like he could still play corner outfield, he can't

689
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: do it. There are only a few guys, it really

690
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: is only honestly, it's only Schwarber, Marcel and Devors then

691
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: like can't do anything else and breaking news, Azuna in

692
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six is not as good as a hitter as

693
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: Shober Endeavors so.

694
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Speaker 2: And I will say this, I also think what maybe

695
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: originally think about this idea was back when the Byron

696
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: Buxton News came out and I was like, well, they

697
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: have three outfitters, but wait no, they what they really

698
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: need is four. They need four starting ye outfielders is

699
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: what they need. And I just think it's a much

700
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: better use.

701
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: Of the roster. Spot your in agreements on that.

702
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: Time for your weekly Arena Club segment where we see

703
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 3: what AJ pulls from a slab pack and here we go,

704
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: pull a little Emerald pack this week. AJ looking for

705
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Speaker 3: something big.

706
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: Always, I'm always looking for the big thing next.

707
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: Big things, got big money, big money.

708
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Speaker 1: Baby.

709
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Speaker 3: We've got a Dave Winfield card from nineteen to seventy four,

710
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: seventy four tops card from this Emerald pack. Estimated value

711
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: three hundred bucks. You could sell it back for two

712
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: seventy sold sold. I feel like you are into more

713
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: of the current players. Would that be accurate?

714
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: Like legend in my showroom, I have a Robin you out,

715
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: I have a Griffy Rookie card. That's true, So I

716
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: mean I have some older vintageer players. Bob Gibson, Oh yeah,

717
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: you have Gibson. So I know I disagree Scott, but

718
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: Dave Winfield for that, mone me back, I'm reselling.

719
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: It, and if you want to get your own pack

720
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: or new card, you can get twenty percent off your

721
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: first slab pack or card purchase at arenaclub dot com.

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00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: Slash foul.

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Speaker 1: All right, Steven, let us get out of here with

724
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: a little bit of news and a quick peek at

725
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: the weekend. This is not a huge news topic, but

726
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: it is an interesting one. Nacho Alvarez is going to

727
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: play in the Arizona Fall League.

728
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that.

729
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Is a little bit weird, not necessarily bad, but weird

730
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: because Nacho has been starting for the Braves four a

731
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: month plus now now out of necessity because of Austin's injury,

732
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: but it is anytime you have a guy who's going

733
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: to probably play like sixty major league games as a starter,

734
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: that is not a guy you typically would would send

735
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: to the Arizona Fall League. You're talking about prospects. The

736
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: other guys in the Braves are sending are all like

737
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: prospects who've never seen the majors. Now. The spin from

738
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: the team is that they want to get him at bats,

739
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: which makes sense. He did have the injury earlier of

740
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: the season mess a much time, but what are you

741
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: making this? He's so young, he's twenty two. But what

742
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: do you think they want to have Is it just

743
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: is it simply just at bats? Like, what's the point

744
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: of this.

745
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is weird to have a guy who played

746
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: the majors be in the Arizona Fall League. It's it's

747
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: usually a you know nothing but prospect heavy league. And

748
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: I think actually Nacho's is going to graduate from any

749
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: prospect list because he spent so much time in the majors. So,

750
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: but he did miss a ton of time in the

751
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: first half. He's actually dealt with quite a few injuries

752
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: the last few years. It's really cost him some development.

753
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's all they're thinking about, is you know,

754
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: he even probably got robbed a little bit of some

755
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: development with Austin. You know, he would not have been

756
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: in the majors without Austin's injury. So no, it's not

757
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: where they wanted to have him all season. They want

758
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: him to be in Triple A. So I'm sure they're thinking,

759
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: we've kind of lost a lot of development with his

760
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: kid the last two years. Why not why not just

761
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: give him another month of at bats against high level

762
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: probably mean some of the best prospects in baseball you know,

763
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: a Nacho as a prospect. I'm still not sold on

764
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: the bat. I think he's going to be a utility player.

765
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: He's got to get bigger. Like if I'm if I'm

766
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: Nacho Alvarez's agent this offseason'm like, dude, we gotta add

767
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: some muscle because you're gonna be a third baseman. I

768
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: think that's clear at this point. The team thinks you're

769
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: a third baseman. They don't think you're a short stop.

770
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: He came up as a short stop.

771
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: No short stop's done. It's it's second or third.

772
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: That's that's the only If you gotta play third, you

773
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 2: gotta hit. If you're gonna play one of these corner spots,

774
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: you gotta hit. And so we got to add some muscle.

775
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: We gotta add some exit velocity. We got add some doubles.

776
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: He's never gonna be a big homer guy, he's not

777
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: that big. But we got to pull the ball in

778
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: the air. That's what I want to see from Nacho.

779
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: If he really wants to graduate to potentially like an

780
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 2: everyday role, it won't be with the Braze, of course,

781
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: but it could be with somebody. He's got to hit more,

782
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: and so we'll see, we'll see what happens.

783
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not to go in this rabbit hole

784
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: too deep, but he's slugging three thirty three in the majors. Yeah,

785
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: Like his barrel rate is one percent expected. His expected

786
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: slugging is even lower than his actual slugging. Like he

787
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: just does hit the ball hard like he does. He does.

788
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: He does have the I think he has a profile

789
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: that could actually be a pretty high OBP guy if

790
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: he puts it together. But if you have I don't

791
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: almost It's not like it's not Nick like Nick Allen's

792
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: zero in power. It's not that, but like he doesn't

793
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: really have a lot of power. And maybe that's if

794
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: you can find a little bit more to your point

795
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: and just developed because you know the I think as

796
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: a podcast we've never been a huge Nacho Alvarez believing podcast.

797
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: But there is a path to him being a major leaguer.

798
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: I think we've seen that. It's just what he's going

799
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: to be because you're right, third base, this bat is

800
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: not a third baseman full time. Like that's not the thing.

801
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: But it's also it's also just limiting to not be

802
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 2: able to play shortstop and not be able to hit

803
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 2: as an infielder, Like.

804
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can very he could probably fake short

805
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: Like if he was a great hitter, he could probably

806
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: fake shortstop. I'm thinking about both, like the like the

807
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: Bobachette profile, where like he's not a good defender. We

808
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: all know it, but like, okay, maybe, but Na Joe

809
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: is not a good defending shortstop. And if you're a

810
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: bad defender, if you're a bad hitter sor if you're

811
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: a bad defender at shortstop, you have to mash Man.

812
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be He's not gonna do that, nor

813
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: is he and Nick Allen level glove who could play

814
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: short stop. So it's like this he's kind of cloting

815
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: in between. But the positive thing is that he is

816
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: so young still, he's only twenty two. Like if you're

817
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: a believer, that is the place to place your belief

818
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: is that he did lose development time. He is only

819
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: twenty two years old. The Braves, I think you could

820
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: say I probably would say this, honestly, the Braves sending

821
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: him there to Arizona actually could be like an endorsement

822
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: of what that like we still believe in you kind

823
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: of thing, like we're gonna treat like a prospect, like

824
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: a real prospect. Yeah, so I kind of see that

825
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: just an interesting story, like we're not gonna be chronicling

826
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: there's on a Fall league day by day on this podcast.

827
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: That's that's the department of Gorev and Garrett and those

828
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: guys who do this better than we do. But I'll

829
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: follow it closer now, honestly, because not's there. It's like

830
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: a guy that we know, and we'll be there before

831
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: we get out of here, Stephen. And we've already gone

832
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: longer than we thought I was gonna because that's what

833
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: we do on the podcast, you and I. The Braves

834
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: are off on Thursday. We're coy this Wednesday night. This

835
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: seems right, but also seems wrong. They have sixteen games remaining,

836
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: that's it, two and a half weeks. That's the list.

837
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: They play Friday, Saturday Sunday against the Astros in Atlanta.

838
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 1: They have nine home games and seven road games left

839
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: in the season. Houston. Of course, we all know the

840
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: Braves are not playing for anything other than takeathon position,

841
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: which I believe they are fourth right now in the

842
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: Tikathon odds page. I'm looking at anything to look for.

843
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean Waldrop against the Astros on Friday is probably

844
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: the headliner of the weekend. To see how he looks

845
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: against another good offense, like he looked pretty good against Seattle.

846
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes.

847
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's I believe it's Astros, Nationals, Tigers, Nationals

848
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: Pirates in the.

849
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: Just an absolutely riveting slate of games. No, I mean,

850
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: the Tigers are going to the playoffs leading the division,

851
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: and the Astros are the Astros. They're good. The Nats

852
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: aren't the Pirates.

853
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: That last series, that last Pirate series might be a

854
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: tankethon series like we might. We might have oh number two,

855
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 2: number two odds on the line.

856
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: They are, they are what one game apart right now

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Speaker 1: that actually is a little bit of intrigued for the

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Speaker 1: absolute sickos in the last series of the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, you guys did the this last night. I agree.

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Speaker 1: I was nodding along when you were talking about the

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Speaker 1: Cubs fans in the building this week. That is Cubs fans.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of Cups fans the WGN ERA, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of Cups fans. I don't think there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be as many Astros fans this weekend. Number one's the

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Speaker 1: number one. It's the weekend. People are gonna go to

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Speaker 1: the game, uh locally include people in this podcast right now,

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Speaker 1: but also like it's a what it should be pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine there'll be more Braves friendly crowds. I

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Speaker 1: hope on the weekend. I think, I think, I do

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Speaker 1: think charitably. The Cubs series was probably the low point

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Speaker 1: for that particular thing because it was the Cubs and

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Speaker 1: it was a weekday. We are weekdays of games.

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Speaker 2: It felt like Wrigley East. Yeah, the last three days.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of one of those like when Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay has the Yankees in town or Tampa Bay has

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Speaker 1: the Red Tucks in town and it's like eighty twenty

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Speaker 1: visiting team. But we'll see. So yeah, Waldrip's probably again

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Speaker 1: the thing that I would be looking forward to the

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Speaker 1: most is Walterrup on Friday. He still has not allowed

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Speaker 1: more than two runs any start this year, which is crazy,

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Speaker 1: but it's the Braves did announced Waldrip Friday Elder on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, I'll just been good the last

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Speaker 1: sporter I think four starts cinearrow and then Joey Wentz

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Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon and then hopefully the return of one.

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Speaker 2: Scott Coleman, the man, the man, the myth, the legend. Scott.

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Speaker 1: We will see if he ever returns. And if he

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Speaker 1: comes back and he says I'm retiring, well I won't

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Speaker 1: be able to blame them too much. But Steven, anything

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Speaker 1: else to add before we sign.

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Speaker 2: Off, No, just appreciate all the fans. Just appreciate all

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Speaker 2: the support. It's been a We have done our level

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Speaker 2: best to try to come up with content on this team.

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Speaker 2: The team has actually helped us out quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: Which yet the last two weeks have been really nice

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Speaker 1: from the team.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, different, rand, I mean a shortstop out of

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Speaker 2: nowhere and then snit. So we well, we do appreciate

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Speaker 2: all the supported I know it's not the season anybody wanted,

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Speaker 2: but you guys have supported us really really strongly, so

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Speaker 2: we do appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely do. I would echo that strongly, particularly

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Speaker 1: in season which the Braves had another one to run

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Speaker 1: lost night. They're now nineteen and thirty four in one

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Speaker 1: run games. That is some like was it twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three Padres they couldn't win a close game? Yes, at

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Speaker 1: the season it was This says that kind of vibe

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Speaker 1: to the season. Las here we are Steven, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for doing this on a Wednesday night, ask for everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, Thank you for watching. Please subscribe

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Speaker 1: we'll see you all next time.

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Speaker 2: This