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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stop? Mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From house top works dot Com, Hello and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. This is Molly and I'm Kristen. Kristen. It's

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Speaker 1: summer in vacation time. The high today is in the nineties. Molly, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's in the nineties. It's summer, and I know that

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Speaker 1: you're headed off for the beach. Yes, I am too

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Speaker 1: shortly boil applia tomorrow. But the thing I also know

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Speaker 1: about you thanks for doing this podcast, is the number

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Speaker 1: one piece of advice you've got from your mother, always

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Speaker 1: wear sunscreen. My mom is a huge proponent of sunscreen use.

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Speaker 1: So I just gotta I gotta say, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: your beach trip, and I just want to say, your

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Speaker 1: mom is going to tell you. Your mom brot me

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Speaker 1: speak for her, says where sunscreen? When when you were

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Speaker 1: I'm going to where sunscreen? Yes, otherwise I will burn

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Speaker 1: to a crisp. I have read undertones, and I instead

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Speaker 1: don't want to sunburn. But I got a few days

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Speaker 1: on the beach. I'm not gonna lie. Okay, I want

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Speaker 1: to come back a little bit darker. I would like

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Speaker 1: a summer tan. You would like a tan? Yeah? Well today,

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Speaker 1: christ and we're going to talk about why you might

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Speaker 1: want this tan. Because if I may pretend to be

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Speaker 1: I were a dermatologists, I would tell you there's no

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Speaker 1: such thing as just a summer tan, a healthy tan.

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Speaker 1: That is a contradiction in terms. Once your skin changes color,

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Speaker 1: you're damaging your skin, your risk for skin cancer, melano,

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Speaker 1: but a whole host of things. This is not going

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Speaker 1: to be surprised to anyone. How many times have we

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Speaker 1: heard where your sunscreen or face the consequences? And yet

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Speaker 1: still you, Kristen, as I know you to be a

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Speaker 1: gonna look at why do we want these tans? Why

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Speaker 1: do we continue to tan even if we know it's bad?

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Speaker 1: For us. Basically, we want to put a lot of

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Speaker 1: nuggets in your head that might just ruin your summer

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Speaker 1: think he's pretty well known that being pale used to

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Speaker 1: be in vogue before the Industrial Revolution because it was

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Speaker 1: wealthy people go outside and it starts to be uh,

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Speaker 1: featured in fashion magazines in health journals. But let's talk

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Speaker 1: about one favorite fun fact about the pale rich before

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Speaker 1: we move on, Kristen. Yes, because this goes bad for

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Speaker 1: much a twentieth century development that the tan is fashionable

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Speaker 1: And then favorite detail that is they would take blue,

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Speaker 1: University of South Florida, Florida. It's very cool. I've got

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Speaker 1: an email here from Anna and this is in response

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Speaker 1: to our episode on flight attendants, and she taught English

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Speaker 1: in Japan and the company she worked for also offered

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Speaker 1: a course called Cabin Attendant English because the cabin attendant

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Speaker 1: is what they referred to as flight attendance. But she

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Speaker 1: writes that only the male teachers were permitted to teach

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Speaker 1: these classes so that the flight attendants could get accustomed

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Speaker 1: to speaking with foreign men. However, some former flight attendants

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Speaker 1: chose to take our regular classes, which is how I

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Speaker 1: got to meet them. These women are all beautiful and

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Speaker 1: quite sharp, but many expressed that they became cabin attendants

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Speaker 1: because they didn't want to get married right away and

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Speaker 1: because they wanted some independence. In every case, they seemed

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Speaker 1: wistful about their sky high adventures, and most of them

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Speaker 1: admitted that they were only taking English classes because they

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Speaker 1: missed speaking with new people. And she notes in Japan,

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Speaker 1: the majority of the women still quit their jobs when

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Speaker 1: marrying and give up most of their independence instead of

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Speaker 1: focusing on homemaking and raising children. In many ways, the

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Speaker 1: guidelines for early female flight attendance in the US holds

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Speaker 1: true for Japanese cabin attendants. They misfit physical requirements can

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Speaker 1: only be at a certain age, and marriage and children

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Speaker 1: are barriers to continuing their careers. A lot of women

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Speaker 1: only last about five years in the job. However, it

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Speaker 1: is something young girls aspired to because it allows them

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Speaker 1: to maintain an independent lifestyle for longer before marrying, and

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Speaker 1: the money is good. So thank you for that insight

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Speaker 1: on flight attendance in Japan from Anna, and thank you

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