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Speaker 1: Problem solved? Is it punt? Is it put? Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: it's put. DeAndre Hopkins, he put it for dockdown. You've

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Speaker 1: up down Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty, right there? Rights the latest news

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Speaker 1: and notes from the guys who cover the teams. Rilled

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Speaker 1: by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, Bring

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Speaker 1: it on. Slam the ground by Fota Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 1: He came flying into the backfield. I scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic. You know what I think we were

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Speaker 1: asemble that remark. Wait a minute, what's the remark? Good question,

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Speaker 1: Darren Herman, Felipe Carl Junior, you're s truly PAULI podcast.

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Speaker 1: When you say that thirty one five, that final score

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Speaker 1: has never happened before in the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And isn't that the stat gentleman, a singular final score

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Speaker 1: of thirty one to five? Is that correct? That is correct.

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Speaker 1: It has never happened in the regular season of the

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Speaker 1: NFL ever before. Okay, I'm just saying that we sort

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Speaker 1: of resemble that remark a little bit. You know, a

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Speaker 1: singular podcast, Cardinals Underground, presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizon Our Cardinals. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We kind of get off to a funky start, mainly

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Speaker 1: my fault every single week, sort of like the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter. Hopefully we finish strong. Maybe there's

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Speaker 1: a stretch in the middle where we go for thirty

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Speaker 1: one unanswered, so ideally, maybe it's not the way we

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Speaker 1: draw it up, but you know what, we'll take it.

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Speaker 1: You're not feeling disconnected, are you? But a little funky?

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Speaker 1: Perhaps the head coach with a play calling when he

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Speaker 1: came back and he met his startight end in person

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Speaker 1: in his office on game day morning, as we found

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Speaker 1: out later. So here we are ready to podcast once again.

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Speaker 1: It might be a rocky first quarter, but we'll make

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Speaker 1: in podcast adjustments. It's a short week, Paul, So really,

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Speaker 1: I mean half speed? You're gonna go half speed on

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Speaker 1: the podcast? I'm not. We're gonna have speed, but I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna tell you right now, get out of bed

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Speaker 1: this morning. We got was late last night writing my stories.

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Speaker 1: I'm expected to come in early and do a podcast

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Speaker 1: when I really my body hasn't had a chance to really,

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Speaker 1: you know, get back into regular, regular week rhythm where

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Speaker 1: we would normally be podcasting later in the week. So

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Speaker 1: now I got to come in here and do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sore you Fleetbay. Do we not have

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Speaker 1: about twenty guys in the practice squad ready to take

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Speaker 1: Darren spot if he doesn't want to. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: the rigors of the NFL, Darren, What where are you

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Speaker 1: sore from after a Sunday game? You know, going into Monday? Like?

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Speaker 1: What it? What? Really? You know, save up on Monday

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Speaker 1: and something's aching. First of all, the thumbs. I've had

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Speaker 1: I hope it's nothing bad. Now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I've noticed the last two weeks writing my right arm

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Speaker 1: being real serious about this right now. I'm like, okay, like,

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Speaker 1: like I go when I'm leaving these First of all,

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Speaker 1: don't have to go to web MD. The thumb is

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Speaker 1: from video games. Too much gaming. Honestly, I think I

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Speaker 1: And the shoulder obviously, too many picks you're setting in

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Speaker 1: the pick and roll in the men's league on Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: so that so, what's the recovery presses? Like how many

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Speaker 1: days by tuesdays? I went ahead and had the epsom

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Speaker 1: You sound a little bit like and I say this,

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Speaker 1: Calle Aaron Rodgers. Did you see Aaron Rodgers greats? After

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Speaker 1: that that is about as old QB as it gets.

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Speaker 1: Like that, that's so like, why why are we doing

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Speaker 1: this something? Well, because ninety five percent of your teammates

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Speaker 1: So you know what, the headline to the story should read,

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Speaker 1: Get off my frozen tundra. Yeah, there you go. That's

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Speaker 1: that's what it should read. You know, start to get

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Speaker 1: that does that? I've never heard of that. Would you

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Speaker 1: like to answer that job? Yeah? Everybody? The Cardinals do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh really? Oh yeah, teams do it now. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: can if you want, but these guys go home. But

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Speaker 1: I fairly certain the night before games they're still in

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Speaker 1: I'm not staying in any hotel in a home game. Well,

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Speaker 1: obviously you don't have to worry about Darren Urban. There

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Speaker 1: we were in Cleveland. It was Darren Alt partying on

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Speaker 1: story just in case Kyler Murray came down with true

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Speaker 1: what about Corey Peters, right, Why wouldn't I get that ready?

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was the only guy because that was the

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Speaker 1: So here we go. It's the seven and all Cardinals

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Speaker 1: against the six and one Packers, and Phelippe, you're saying

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Speaker 1: to yourself, is that the best combined win percentage for

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Speaker 1: would be right, Felipe, it is the best combined win

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Speaker 1: the season. Ever, how about that? I hate it when

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers versus Kylie Murray, what more do you want?

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Speaker 1: You know, well, you would have wanted Davonte Adams, but

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Speaker 1: with that Davante Adams. I'm foreshadowing. What's that movie we

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Speaker 1: reference us Report? Yeah, I'm minority reporting Thursday Night, whatever

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Speaker 1: guy's Twitter account that I ripped off a Packers beat

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Speaker 1: writer who tweeted the following, and I quote Aaron Rodgers. Wait,

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Speaker 1: like three close Packer friends beat writers, and you're not

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Speaker 1: or else. I would you can go to at Paul

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Speaker 1: Calvci and you can see it for yourself because I

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in his last six games without Davante Adams

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Speaker 1: Lost record is last six games minus Davante Adams six

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Speaker 1: and oh he's six and oh, phelippe, thank you? Which

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Speaker 1: would let me continue? He has seventeen touchdowns and one

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Speaker 1: pick in those six games minus Davante Adams. And I

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Speaker 1: mean his passer rating is over one twenty five. So

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Speaker 1: I would throw that up on the screen in case

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Speaker 1: lot easier to beat Aaron Rodgers minus Davante Adams. Think again,

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Speaker 1: because here's the win lost record. I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: a little bit after the last two weeks. It's it's

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Speaker 1: like all these people saying, what what did the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: defense do after they lost Chandler Jones? Got better? They're

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Speaker 1: now number one in scoring d in the NFL. Is

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Speaker 1: that what you're saying? Well, again, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers was playing any defenses that were similar

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Speaker 1: to the Texans offense, that the Cardinals defense as well

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, as long as we're taking shots here,

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Speaker 1: subliminally or otherwise, Dude, you happen to see that the

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Speaker 1: Washington football club out game green Bay four thirty to

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Speaker 1: how many times do you think they got any points

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Speaker 1: in those five trips inside green Bay's thirty I want

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Speaker 1: like he goes, we know on he was talking about

425
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Speaker 1: the defense. He's like, we know on offense, we didn't

426
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Speaker 1: hold up our end of the bargain. And I asked

427
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: him later, I'm like, Okay, I get what you're saying.

428
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Speaker 1: And I know you guys had a slow start, but

429
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: you guys put up thirty one points. You were three

430
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: yards away from getting four hundred yards and that was

431
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Speaker 1: the benchmark. We kept talking about thirty points, four hundred yards,

432
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: and you guys are all acting like you crap the bed.

433
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really amazing. It's what JJ Watts said

434
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: last week. We're six and own. We still haven't played

435
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: our best game yet. I love how the I mean,

436
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 1: they you can say it, but then you gotta live it.

437
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: And I feel like they really are living that after

438
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: the game, and just to build on that real quick.

439
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: After the game, I asked zach Ertz last question. I said, Hey,

440
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: what have you found out about your quarterback that you

441
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 1: didn't know before you showed up? And he said how

442
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: competitive he is? It's what he right away said, Yeah,

443
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: he's competitive in practice us out in that game field.

444
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: And so I think that's what Darren's getting at, that

445
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: this is a guy right now who's striving for perfection.

446
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: Did zach Ertz not take the blame for the interception,

447
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: by the way, they both did? They both did. Zach

448
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 1: Ertz said, it's all my fault. And I brought it

449
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: up to Kyler and he, I said, I don't know

450
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: if you heard about zach he and he cut me

451
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: off and he goes, yeah, he said it was his fault.

452
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: He goes, it's all my fault. So they both took them.

453
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: But if you go back and look at that play,

454
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: one of the defensive lineman for the Texans actually tipped it. Well.

455
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Speaker 1: We were talking about the interception, though now not the

456
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: I think that one was it, but they were talking

457
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Speaker 1: about the blame for the interception, which was way high,

458
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Speaker 1: and I what I am guessing is that zach Ertz

459
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Speaker 1: wasn't quite in the right place. And because I was

460
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Speaker 1: talking to just on purpose, just not on purpose, but no,

461
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Speaker 1: not to kill the play the way I was talking

462
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: to Kent Summers about this, because that's what Kent was

463
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: kind of like, that's weird because it's like, even if

464
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Speaker 1: he's in the wrong place, that was a high throw.

465
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Speaker 1: But I can only imagine if you're a quarterback and

466
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: you're feeling pressure and all this has to happen, bing

467
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: bing bing bing bing, and a guy has to be

468
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 1: in the right place, and right as you're going to

469
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: throw it, all of a sudden, you realize the guy

470
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Speaker 1: is not in the right place and you're getting a

471
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: little bit of pressure up the middle because I do

472
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: think he was throwing off his back foot, and all

473
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that just makes you like flinch or whatever.

474
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: Who knows what that does with a throw. Now. I'm

475
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: not saying that that was a good play by Kyler Murray.

476
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he has to figure it out.

477
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't know who's to play. My guess is it's

478
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Speaker 1: a little of both. But I do love the fact

479
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: that they both were willing to say it's my fault. Absolutely.

480
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean just the fact of think Kyler is much

481
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: more patient this year. Zach I said, take us through

482
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: the touchdown catch, the forty seven yard catch and run

483
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Speaker 1: to the end zone, the longest scoring catch of his career,

484
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: which is incomprehensible. Right, He does it in Game one

485
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals, and he said, well, I didn't

486
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: think it was gonna happen at all because I got

487
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: a terrible release. I couldn't get away from my guy.

488
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't get off the line of scrimmage and get it,

489
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Speaker 1: be said as his as soon as I got into

490
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: my route, I realized, oh my goodness, I am wide open.

491
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: And he attributed that to the Cardinals receiving talent out

492
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: on the perimeter. But Kyler waited for him. Kyler could

493
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: see his wall that it was wide open. He knew

494
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: where the Titan was going to be. Eventually he waited,

495
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: he waited, Boom, he hit him, and then he got six.

496
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: See this is what impresses me about Kyler Murray the most.

497
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, he's dynamic. Yes he can get out

498
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: of place where he should have been sacked, like he's

499
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: done it all throughout these first seven weeks. But you know,

500
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: a lot of the question going into a lot of

501
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: the questions going into into his thirty year in the

502
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: NFL was his arm strength, his accuracy, and that's something

503
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: that he's improved on this year. I mean he's first

504
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL and completions of thirty yards, He's first

505
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL and completion percentage. I mean you combine

506
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: that with his ability to escape sacks, to make throws

507
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: out of the pocket, to make throws inside of the pocket.

508
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: I mean he's improved in his intermediate game as well.

509
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: I mean those ten and nineteen yard passers. I mean

510
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: he's truly turned one of his big this weakness is

511
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: heading into year three into what I think is one

512
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Speaker 1: of his biggest strings. I mean, when you look at

513
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: Kyler Mary play his patients, like you talked about Paul

514
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: in the pocket, I think that's where he's done, you know,

515
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: his most damage. I would agree. And the first thing

516
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Speaker 1: I thought of when I watched the Arts play was

517
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: exactly that, which is, if you had to draw up

518
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 1: a play before the season where you said, all right,

519
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna put you in a scenario that you have

520
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: not done very well, and what happens, that's it. That

521
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: is a slower developing play where you've got to stay

522
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: in the pocket to make it work, and it's over,

523
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: it's in the middle of the field, and he just

524
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: it all came together. The other point I want to

525
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Speaker 1: make about that play was, you know, Cliff Kingsbury said

526
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Speaker 1: after the game, wish our past protection would have been better.

527
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: Was not on point. Earlier in the game, there was

528
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys that did not have their best games. Obviously.

529
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Speaker 1: Josh Jones said something on Twitter at one point kind

530
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Speaker 1: of saying, I need to play better. He deleted it later,

531
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: but he did say it at first that said I

532
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: want to give props on that play, in particular to

533
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Speaker 1: the offensive line because one of the reasons, Yeah, Kyler

534
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: had a step up in the pocket a little bit,

535
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: but he had a pocket, and he had a pocket

536
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: long enough, as you said, so that ERT's even on

537
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: a bad release, he still had time to be there,

538
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: and he wasn't under dress, and there were moments that

539
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: the pocket was there and the blocking was there, and

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Speaker 1: I just thought that in a one play, I just

541
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: thought it hit so many things that showed why this

542
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: offense is different than it was maybe a year ago.

543
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: But I'm confused. I thought Kyler wasn't able to see

544
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: from I thought he wasn't able to see from the pocket.

545
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: I thought Kyler Murray wasn't able to throw from the pocket.

546
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: I didn't think Kyler Murray would be able to work

547
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: the middle of the field because he can't get it

548
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: over the six foot six offensive lineman. I thought a

549
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: fine fellow diminutive American wasn't able to play the position

550
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: with that sort of a If we want to talk

551
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: about the benefits of a shorter quarterback, let's talk about

552
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: the penalty against the Texans. That should have been a sack,

553
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: and by the letter of the law, it was a penalty.

554
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 1: But I understand all the people and uh NFL reporter Twitter,

555
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about like ESPN personalities and people that

556
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: are on Twitter, X players and stuff. We're all over this,

557
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: and I can't disagree. The reason Kyler got hit in

558
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: the head on that is because the guy was bearing

559
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: down into last second. Kyler tried to do the I'm

560
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: gonna hit my ass on the ground right away, and

561
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: as he dropped, the guy was gonna go hit probably

562
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: his shoulders, and he's so short. There's his head and

563
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: you can't do anything about it. And it's like pitching too,

564
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, Paul Calvci up on the plate like you don't.

565
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: You don't have a lot of strike zone there, you know,

566
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: And I feel bad. You can't go low on a quarterback.

567
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and take the Eddie Goodell comparison.

568
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: I did not say I would never say Eddie Goodell.

569
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: Let me say something though, do you know Eddie Goodell,

570
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: all the all the haters on Twitter, guess what he

571
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,239
Speaker 1: got tackled by the helmet for the safety and they

572
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: didn't call out that was scary. It was scary and

573
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: there was no flag on that one. That was a

574
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: face mask, right, Well, it didn't face mask him, but

575
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: he absolutely got drilled. He got tackled by the helmet

576
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: and it looked like the guy grabbed underneath it, like

577
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: it wasn't the mask. It was like I was shocked.

578
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: There was nothing. So if we can summarize everything, we

579
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: can agree that this year, through seven weeks, Kylie Mary

580
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: has been the better quarterback than Aaron Rodgers. Right, is

581
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: that the consensus. I'll say this, I'll play your little

582
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: reindeer game over there. I'll do that, but I'll do

583
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: it based on the Week one result, just because the

584
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals are seven and oz and the Green Bay Packers

585
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: face planet got absolutely jack stopped in Week one against

586
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: New Orleans thirty eight to three. So based on that,

587
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if Aaron Rodgers went into the whole

588
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: relax that whole thing again because they've won six row since.

589
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: But just based on that. Okay, I'll give this slight

590
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: edge to Kyler Murray, but you guys gotta understand, Aaron

591
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: Rodgers and I share one thing and one thing only,

592
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: and oh my god, and that's the Alma Mater. And

593
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell, just say, for decades, we stunk

594
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: before Aaron Rodgers showed up, and we've stunk ever since.

595
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: And he almost got us to a roast bawl, almost

596
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: got us to a Rolls bawl. But only Aaron Rodgers

597
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: can do something like that. Does a degree of difficulty

598
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: there in getting the Alma Mater anywhere and beating Pete

599
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: Carroll and USC at the height of their dominance. By

600
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: the way, coach double rainbow, how's that taste? Fifteen years later,

601
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: Paul Calvci, the heart wants with the highways, and you

602
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: just can't get away from those golden bears. By the way,

603
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: do you see the quote speaking of Kyler Murray's I

604
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: reeled this back in my own self, the Houston defensive

605
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: lineman saying after the game quote, it's like chasing a rabbit.

606
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: That dude's change of direction is crazy and he can

607
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: still throw a dot like playing a video game. That

608
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: was Jonathan Greenard and he actually had a pretty good game.

609
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: The other one was, so you mentioned the throw to Hop,

610
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: Was it for fifteen yards? Where til boom boom, boom,

611
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: avoid like three different sacks. I'd love to know what

612
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Hops said to the Texans sideline because he made that catch,

613
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: he stepped out of bounds and then he was vocal.

614
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: He was he happened to the Texans side say better catch.

615
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know everyone filling the thought bubble. My

616
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: inclination at the time was you know what he's saying.

617
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: He's saying, how do you like my quarterback? How do

618
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: you like my quarterback? Because y'all saddled me with a

619
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: dozen different quarterbacks while I was here, and and and

620
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: Other than Nashwan, it was a lot of nothing. So

621
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: guess what you guys can have whatever you have in

622
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, that's my guy number one. I think

623
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: that's probably a fair I would have said something along

624
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: the lines of, like, y'all, I don't want to pay me,

625
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, isn't that mainly why he left? Like they

626
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: didn't want to give him that contract? Yeah? Left, Although

627
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: after that play, Although Bill, it's kind of hard not

628
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: to give all the credit there, but he tops it

629
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: off with the touchdown. And I mean he led the

630
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: team in receptions, not necessarily receiving yards. But although old

631
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: school Bill O'Brien the Cardinals twenty twenty team MVP, he

632
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: apparently was not on board with the practice habits of

633
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: DeAndre also true, so that there was there was other things.

634
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean there was there was definitely an issue between

635
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and DeAndre Hopkins that weren't beyond the contract.

636
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: But okay, Kyler's status. He ended up on the injury report. Yes,

637
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: please update us, please update us. Well, he he did,

638
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: first of all, on a short week. These guys don't

639
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: really practice practice, so that that is that is part

640
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: of it. Um. But but he did end up on

641
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: the injury report with a right finger injury. Uh wait

642
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: a minute, he is right handed. I just confirmed so.

643
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: But he he would have quote unquote practice full as

644
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: the week opened. Again, I don't he's not gonna get

645
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: tested in practice at all this week because they're they're

646
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: not gonna hardly do anything all week because because of

647
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: just relaxing, you know, making sure their bodies are ready

648
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: to go. So but hey, he ended up in the

649
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: tent twice. So the question was asked after the game, right,

650
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: both Kyler and his head coach and so. And the

651
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: part of the problem for me is is, like, especially

652
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: now that they said finger, is like, I didn't think

653
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: he got hurt his finger on the first trip to

654
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: the tent, and we saw enough throws where I didn't

655
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: think anything of it. The second trip to the ten,

656
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: I'd have to go back and look, But I don't

657
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: know how many throws I saw him make after that.

658
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: So then you kind of I don't want I don't

659
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: want Carson Palm or Philadelphia twenty fifteen again. But if

660
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: there's someone wait, what happened? That's when he that's when

661
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,239
Speaker 1: he messed up his finger. And it was the same

662
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: day Tyrn Matthew blew out his knee and that big

663
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: win in Philadelphia, and it basically derailed what the chances

664
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: they had to win. I think that was a potentially

665
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: super Bowl winning team. And once you lost the heart

666
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: of your defense and the quarterback's finger got jacked up,

667
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: was it a Russell Wilson type of injuries? Oh, he

668
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: played three he missed like one snap, but he wasn't

669
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: quite the same after that. And he never led onto

670
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: the severity of the never worked. Obviously, person would never

671
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: know that. But yeah, it was the early fourth quarter.

672
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: He went to the tent for the second time, and

673
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: at that point it was twenty four to five, and

674
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: then they ran the ball a lot and James Conner

675
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: had the eighteen yard touchdown run to make it thirty

676
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: one to five. So I'd be shocked if Kyler didn't play.

677
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: He did go back. I mean he finished the game.

678
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Cole McCoy, Kyler's got a play. Come on. Um, here's

679
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: the question, Um, what we saw on that first quarter

680
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: is that something they need to fix? What we saw

681
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: in that first quarter where I think the first nine

682
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: plays and ended him fifteen yards or some stat like that.

683
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: You know, what was the adjustment they made? Was it

684
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: more about what the Cardinals did and what the Texas

685
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: are not capable of doing? Uh? You know, he just wonder, Okay,

686
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: did that poor tend anything that needs to be corrected

687
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: on a short week. I mean I would say no.

688
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: I mean they went back to what was working with

689
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: which to me was running the ball. I mean Chase

690
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: Edmons and James Connor had relatively good games. He saw

691
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: Chase Edimons and with what eighty one rushing yards on

692
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: the day, and then James Connor with the eighteen yard touchdown,

693
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: and he had like a seventeen yard run too in

694
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: that second quarter when they started finding the rhythm, and

695
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, to credit zach Ertz, he did come up

696
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: with like a crucial block for James Connor and the

697
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: second quarter on that seventeen yard run. But they went

698
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: back to what was working, which was running the ball.

699
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: It was funny because I was on the Spanish broadcast

700
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: and Tim Delaney was sitting right behind us, and during

701
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: one of the timeouts, he comes up to Rolando. Tim

702
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: Delaney comes up to Rolando and he basically tells him, like,

703
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: what's going on? Why aren't they running the ball? And

704
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: then shortly after, you know, ironically, they started running the

705
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: ball and they got into rhythm and they started protecting

706
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: Kyler a little bit more. Obviously in that first half

707
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily their best pass protection half in the NFL

708
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty one season, but they went back

709
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: to what was working, and I think once they got

710
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: into a groove offensively running the ball, that's when everything

711
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: else opened up. That's when you saw you know, the touchdown,

712
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: the hot the touchdown to Kerk and so forth. So

713
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: it just went back to that, I think. I mean,

714
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: I think the running absolutely helped. I think, look, they're

715
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: a good team, a very good team, but even good teams,

716
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: they're not they can't afford I mean, let's face the

717
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: first quarter. What what happened here? We had uh penalties

718
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: again that they had been able to sidestep for the

719
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: most part. They had a couple of penalties that put

720
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: them in bad situations. They did not block well, whether

721
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: they are running or not. They they they gave up

722
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: way too too much pass rush pressure early, and there

723
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: was a couple of arrant snaps that I think played

724
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: with it, I mean, and had an impact. And you

725
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: added that with okay, maybe maybe you run the ball

726
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more and and it just didn't work.

727
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: Maybe they were trying to look for DeAndre Hopkins early

728
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know what it was. I

729
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: do think they needed a little bit of time. But

730
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: it's funny the idea that again they could have really

731
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: and I think they'd all agree with this, they could

732
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: have a trash first quarter, which is essentially what it was,

733
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: and still almost half four hundred yards and still score

734
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: thirty one points. I mean, I'd have to go back

735
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: and look how many yards do they have after the

736
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: first quarter. I think that's possible. They were close to

737
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: no official yards. So total night yards first quarter thirteen thirteen.

738
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right now. They had thirteen yards

739
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: in a quarter, and they still almost had four hundred.

740
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: There was a single rushing attempt by a Cardinals running

741
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: back in the first quarter, one rushing attempt by James Connor,

742
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: and it got him fourteen yards. Fourteen yard run in

743
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: the first quarter. Otherwise, Kyler was credited with two runs

744
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: for negative two yards. But by a halftime, the Cardinals

745
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: had run the ball by halftime. As I get to

746
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: the right page and on myself some time, by halftime,

747
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: he said, fifteen rushing attempts for seventy three yards, a

748
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: tick under five yards of carry. By the time they

749
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: were done with a game, thirty seven rushing attempts for

750
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: one hundred seventy two yards. So, see, America is going

751
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: to get a bit of a lesson when they watch

752
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Thursday night football. They're gonna learn a couple of things. Well,

753
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are running is not the air raid. Everybody, Now,

754
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: they're not running the air raid. They just ran for

755
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy two yards. Yes, they got a

756
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: big lead and then they started with the ground game.

757
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: I get it. But they've also run for over two

758
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: hundred yards twice this season. Guess what, and not even

759
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: three seasons under Cliff Kingsbury, the Cardinals have run for

760
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: two hundred plus yards in a game six times. Do

761
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: you realize that in the fifteen years prior to Cliff Kingsbury,

762
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals had run for two hundred plus yards

763
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: six times. So it's not the air raid. Here's the

764
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: other thing America's gonna learn about the Arizona Cardinals. Who

765
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: has the number one scoring defense in the NFL, The

766
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. They do play defense. And as we talked

767
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: about last week in Cardinals Underground, if you want to

768
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: take the powers in the NFC, and we will, whether

769
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: it's the Bucks, the Cowboys, the Rams, and always forget

770
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: the other one who also am forgetting here, the Packers.

771
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: Thank you, they're coming to town. Yeah, you might want

772
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: to pay a line up those teams, every one of

773
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: them as an elite offense, and you can pick which

774
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: one you like the best. Different flavors, great, but there

775
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: is one defense that has separated itself as a complete defense,

776
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: and it resides in Arizona. It just does all three

777
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: levels of the defense. Is Stout, unlike the other four

778
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: powers in the NFL. So I think it's going to

779
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: be a bit of an education. We'll see if the

780
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals live up to it on Thursday Night. But I

781
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: will say this, Isaiah Simmons cut me off when in

782
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: my last question during our interview, we'll second last question.

783
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: I'll get to the last question. The second last question

784
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: was about what's next and Thursday night football and measuring

785
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: yourself against Green Bay, and then I went to kind

786
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 1: of I should have cut the question right there, but

787
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: I didn't. I kept continuing it's sort of like I'm

788
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: doing right now. And Isaiah Simmons, Isaiah Simmons coming off,

789
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: and he said, we're juiced. And he said it again,

790
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: We're juiced. And so I think these guys started looking

791
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: forward at Thursday night and primetime and the Packers and

792
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: all the eyes immediately when that clock hit double zero

793
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: against the Houston Texas. I don't think there's any question

794
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: that they're going to be paying attention to this. I

795
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: will say this. You mentioned that they're number one in

796
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: points a lot. I think they're number one in yards.

797
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: I think they're officially the number one defense in the league.

798
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: Now I'd have to double check that, but they're number

799
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: one in third down defense percentage completion percentage or a

800
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: conversion percentage, and fourth down defense as well. I mean,

801
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: it is this defense has been excellent. And they've missed

802
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones for two weeks, which is amazing, and now

803
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: they get them back, they get Zach allenback, they're healthy ish.

804
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I just it is. It is mind blowing

805
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: to me how well this defense has played. They've all

806
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: played at a high level. Vance Joseph is absolutely Look,

807
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, and this is nothing against Vans Joseph,

808
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: but there were a couple writers that decided to do

809
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: the training camp. What Ivans Joseph, you know, is a

810
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: head coaching candidate after the year, and I'm thinking pump

811
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: the brakes. I mean, those those guys come from teams

812
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: that do really, really well in a season, and I

813
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: thought this team had a chance to be in the playoffs,

814
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: but I didn't expect this per se and they were right.

815
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Vance Joseph absolutely deserves some consideration to be

816
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: a head coach again. He has been great with what

817
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: he's got. He's dialed up all the right things. There's

818
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: a confidence in this defense and in what Vance is doing,

819
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: and you can just tell when you talk to him,

820
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: when you watch them play. Confidence is a lot of it.

821
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: And they believe they are a really good team right

822
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: now and a really good defense. And I am fascinated

823
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: to see what it's going to mean on Thursday night.

824
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I'm gonna reach a little

825
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: bit because you now I'm I'm gonna reach because I'm

826
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: gonna say, as great as his offense has been, as

827
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: great as Kyler Murray has been leading in you know

828
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: well to what categories offensively, I think this team is

829
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: going to go as far as the defense goes. I

830
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: think this team has been as good as they have

831
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: been through seven weeks because of the defense. I mean,

832
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: they're third in the NFL takeaways. You're not allowing people

833
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: to score on you in the second half, specifically in

834
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. I mean they've would allowed one touchdown

835
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter through seven weeks, and that was

836
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: that Robert Woods touchdown against the Rams garbage time. I

837
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: mean that's when the games are decided. The games aren't

838
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: necessarily decided in the first half, as we saw in

839
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: Week seven against the Texans, I mean, not scoring in

840
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: the first quarters, still put up thirty one points. But

841
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: when you can hold your opponent from scoring in the

842
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: second half, I think they've opponents have only scored on

843
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: like what four or thirty five possessions in the second half,

844
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: I mean four touchdowns, two field goals. That's impressive. That

845
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: to me is a championship team because when you get

846
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: into the postseason, what a lot of people say, I mean,

847
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: defenses win championships. So you can compliment that by having

848
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: one of the top scoring offenses in the NFL. I mean,

849
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: that's the recipe for success. You see a lot of

850
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: these top offenses, top team contenders. I would want to

851
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: say in the NFL, A lot of people talking about

852
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Bucks, the Rams and all that, but

853
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: what don't they have a great defense? Look at the

854
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year. Everyone talks about TV twelve, and

855
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: rightfully so, but how many touchdowns a Patrick Mahome scoring

856
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl? Zero three field goals, they got

857
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: nine points on the board. That Todd Bowles defense And

858
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: that's my segue. Who was the last Cardinals defensive coordinator

859
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: to get a head coaching gig. Yeah, Todd Bowles And

860
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: what was his calling card? Halftime adjustments? Remember how many

861
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: times we'd say, wow, look at the adjustments and the

862
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: players would rave about it. That's back in the days

863
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: of the open locker room. You could talk to guys,

864
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: have a real conversation and they would tell you, man,

865
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: first off, he was I right. He broke the white board.

866
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: Second of all, he got his message across and he

867
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: made the adjustments. And in the second half we bawled,

868
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: and he called all the right plays. He made all

869
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: the right adjustments. And Todd Bowles rightfully so went to

870
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: a Jets team that continues to struggle, had nothing to

871
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: do with bowls. Here's another guy who might get a

872
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: head coaching gig at the end of this year. We'll see.

873
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: But it's very similar in that regard to me. Him

874
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: advanced Joseph in that you're near the top in virtually

875
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: every category and you're calling card, your signature is a fact.

876
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: In the second half, guess what you're You're just shut

877
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: down defense. And so right now that separates and I

878
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: think we all agree on that, maybe the one thing

879
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: we'll agree on all month. He said, yes, the Cardinals

880
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: defense does separate them from the rest of the NFC.

881
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: At least I think we'd agree on it. Marcus Golden's

882
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: playing really well. Right, Oh boy, when you come out

883
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: of a pile of humanita, you're missing your helmet, but

884
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: you have the football. I mean, does that not say

885
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: at all? Right there? Well, I mean that's that's about

886
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: as typical Marcus Golden as you get, doesn't it. Just

887
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, if we should do if only he would

888
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: have been miked up, because how great would it have

889
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: been to actually here here, Oh, the humanity of it

890
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: all at the bottom of that pile. That would have

891
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: been good stuff. Would have been rated R for rough.

892
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, that would have been good

893
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: stuff to see him miked up on that. But you know,

894
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: to see him come to the sideline and then he

895
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: so worked up he can't sit down. He tried to

896
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: sit down, he couldn't sit down. He gets up, he

897
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: goes to the red sea, starts and pouring him. You know,

898
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: He's like, come on, everyone, get up. Everyone gets fired

899
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: up and he sitting goes on the bike. He's got

900
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: to ride the bike. He's got all this energy. He

901
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: just had to burn it off, and he's just he's

902
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: yelling to know it. He was yelling at like some

903
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: of the assistant equipment guys like intern. He's like, I'm hunting.

904
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm always un to keep hunting, and these kids are

905
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: like his golden bad He's like, these nine years are James,

906
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: mister Goldman? What don't you say? It was just it

907
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: was hilarious. Wait, who, why are you invitating right there?

908
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: That last nineteen year old intern. He's like, I did

909
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: not know that. That's how nineteen year old sound like.

910
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: He was totally he's intimidated. I mean he was like,

911
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean doing that. It's possible Paul's invitation of a

912
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: nineteen year old intern also sounds like the thirty eight

913
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: year old sports writer that's asking a question of press conference.

914
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: But that's okay, by the way, who has the ol

915
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: on one mentality this week? Okay that we're not naming names.

916
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: We love him, we love him. But that was an

917
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: all timer. That was hilarious, And as someone who's asked

918
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: his share of malaprop questions. Put it that way, and

919
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: as someone who got aired out by the head coach

920
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, where were we asked a dumb question

921
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: and he gave me a really snarky answer that I deserved.

922
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And so anyway, I've been there and done that.

923
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: Believe me, on live radio at least, you're only in

924
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: a collection about a dozen media members. Whoever it was

925
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: on the Zoom call. But yeah, just asked Jordan Hicks

926
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: about the Owen one mentality every week that was and Jordan,

927
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: politely with a slight chuckle, did say, well, it's a

928
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: one and old mentality. We're never going in with the

929
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: Owen one right right, So there you go. That's fair. Now,

930
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: if you want to accuse me of having an Owen

931
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: one mentality in my life, either's yeah, I'll speak that

932
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: into existence. So, by the way, the last time, just

933
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: to rub it in on Packer fans, I just throw

934
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: it as long as we throw our rand factoids. You

935
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 1: realized the last time the Arizone Cardinals played the Green

936
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: Bay Packers, they got Mike McCarthy fired, and he was

937
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: fired before the team bus even arrived at the airport

938
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. So it was a cold day. It was

939
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: third and seventeen won and Larry bailed him on the

940
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: believable catch seventeen. Oh my goodness, man, I can understand

941
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: why you'd fire a coach after that. With all due

942
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: respect to the Cardinals, that was not a good Cardinals team. Yeah,

943
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: that was That was telling. When you lost to that team,

944
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: you needed to make change, and they did. I feel

945
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: bad for you, Paul, because that game, uh, we were

946
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: still doing because it was pre COVID, we were still

947
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: doing the Facebook live show on the sideline for ten minutes.

948
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: And I had my suit on with nice shoes, which

949
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: I regret, and and then I had I had long

950
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: underwear on, and I had a coat and had gloves

951
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: and I had a knit cap and we were out

952
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: there for ten minutes and I couldn't feel any part

953
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: of my body when I was done, including my hands,

954
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: which we're in gloves. But that's that's good though, right,

955
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: because you woke up a little bit sorry today, but

956
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: the cold actually helps you, so I'm assuming you didn't

957
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: necessarily wake up. That was also what three years ago,

958
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: and I'm three years older, which also does not help

959
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: the process. It's got those gaming thumbs. That's what happens,

960
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, Felipe. You do all this gaming right now,

961
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: by the time you you know, you get to do

962
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: an advanced age, you know, those thumbs, they're gonna be

963
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: killing you. So Darren's credit, he honestly hasn't even age

964
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: in like ten years. So I appreciate that. It's not true,

965
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: but I appreciate that. Yeah, so that you know. The

966
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: worst is when you're on the sideline in those cold games.

967
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: It's when I hear passion wolf wine from the climate

968
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: controlled booth because the window is open. They think that's cold.

969
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, why don't you guys come down here to

970
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: the sideline where I try and get like in front

971
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: of one of the heaters, and the players love to

972
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: stiff arm you out of the way. They go Derrick

973
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: Henry and they stiff arm you away. They're like, no, no, no, no, no,

974
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: you you're on the outside looking in. No, I just

975
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: went to the go to the I go to the

976
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: other side of the sideline and where they're not currently

977
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: uh you know, collected. I'll go use one of those heaters.

978
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: But you gotta be careful if you're standing next to

979
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: heater watching the game. It will catch your pants on fight.

980
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you that right now. Yeah, it's

981
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: no doubt. So, uh, what else are we looking at

982
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: here in terms of Zach Ertz. Did they just get

983
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: him involved because you know they went to see Houston

984
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: Texans and okay, and here's his intro game and as

985
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks said, he wanted to prove his work to

986
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: his team or is this going to be a consistent threat,

987
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: a productive weapon weekend and week out? Who says what

988
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: on that? I mean, I don't. I mean, he only

989
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: had three catches. It's not like they threw to him

990
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: forty times and you know he broke one. But I

991
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: think that's that's kind of what Max williamses. Now. I

992
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: think Ertz is a little bit more of a runner

993
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: than you know, Max Williams him an inside handoff, So yeah, exactly,

994
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: So I mean they are a little bit different players,

995
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, I think you have a chance

996
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: to get three or four or five catches for him

997
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: every game, somewhere between fifty and eighty yards, maybe a touchdown,

998
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: and that's going to be part of it. And I

999
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: absolutely think there's gonna be options there, especially if teams

1000
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: are gonna look other places, and it just you know,

1001
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: I was talking to one of my airfourmuntioned Packers cover

1002
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: the guys that cover the team, one of my friends.

1003
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: I did a team to team with him this week,

1004
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: and you know, he basically said, like the weapons for

1005
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are I mean, you you you see it

1006
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: all the time and you kind of know, but when

1007
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: you when you get that other perspective, it's like, exactly,

1008
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, exactly what is this Packers defense going to

1009
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: be able to do and cover all these guys with

1010
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: Ertz and Kirk and Hopkins and Green and Edmonds out

1011
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: of the backfield. I mean it's and Randale Moore, I

1012
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: mean it's it's not simple, especially for a Packers team

1013
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: that's beat up in the secondary and possibly has some

1014
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: questions in the first place. Did I bring up the

1015
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: Chris Carter comparison to wide receiver rooms on Cardinals Underground

1016
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: last week? You know, when I'm carrying Wolf on Big

1017
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: Red Rage, I can't remember if I brought up with

1018
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: you guys are not being on an NFL nowhere. Chris Carter,

1019
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame receiver said that ideally, the best wide

1020
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: receiver rooms are constructed like an NBA lineup. You have

1021
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: a big man, you have a point guard, you have

1022
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: a wing, you have a shooting guard, all different swords, receivers.

1023
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: And I knew that would get your attention to course,

1024
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: and I think that And as soon as he said that,

1025
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: I go, I'm trying not to be a homer, but

1026
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: how can you not think of the Arizona Cardinals with

1027
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: four or five different receiving options, all different skill sets, sizes,

1028
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: you know, I mean think about it, whether it's Aj

1029
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: Green the big man, or DeAndre Hopkins sort of the

1030
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: scoring wing, whether it's Rondel Moore, your point guard, Alan

1031
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: Iverson type, you know, a Christian Kirk could be like,

1032
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, Steph Curry of sorts. And then you

1033
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: got a Max Williams is a power forward. Max Williams.

1034
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: A zach Ertz is a power forward. I mean, think

1035
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: about that now. The Cardinals receiving options for Kyla Murray

1036
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: do equit in a lot of ways to a basketball lineup.

1037
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: And the best part is if you went to them

1038
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: and explain that to him, they'd say, yes, let's go

1039
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: to the basketball court. We're also a great basketball But

1040
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: I think DeAndre Hopkins would say, he's like the what

1041
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: Lebron James of the group since he played in college,

1042
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: he played out well. He's also a three time All

1043
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: Pro and so I think I think that's fair point too.

1044
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: I think he saw the benefit of having zach Ertz

1045
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: in your lineup when they were in the red zone,

1046
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: that Hopkins that Hopkins touchdown right, because I mean, you

1047
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: have you're at the two yard line, the one yard line.

1048
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: You you know it's a play action. You give a

1049
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: fake candoff to James Connor, the whole defensive line bites,

1050
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: then the two safeties bite on zach Ertz who was

1051
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: running behind the line of scrimmage, and then DeAndre Hopkins

1052
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: just slides in, you know, for a one yard touchdown.

1053
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: I think that's a perfect example of how you're going

1054
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: to utilize the arts because, I mean, the whole world

1055
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: thought you were going to go to Earth's at that point.

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00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to go to earth just

1057
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: because you know, all this hyper on him. It's his

1058
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: first game. You're trying to get him involved and whatnot.

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00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: But just a versatility that this offense has now, I mean,

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00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: when you're in the red zone and you're a linebacker

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00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: or a safety or whoever on that defense. Who are

1062
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: who's your focus on? I mean, Kyler Murray is still

1063
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: at some point in the next what ten weeks, you're

1064
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: gonna see a Kyler Murray, you know, readoption touchdown at

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00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: the two yard line at some point because he's setting

1066
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: it all up. I mean you saw the again, the

1067
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: fake coundout to the play action with James Connor. It

1068
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: was it wasn't there in a normal week. He's automatic,

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00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: I would say, James Connor when he's at the one

1070
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: yard line. You've seen a couple of times where aj

1071
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: Green has one on one coverage on the right and

1072
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: you go to him. And then now you like mixing

1073
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: ERDs and DeAndre Hipkins said that Shaquille O'Neill's screen that

1074
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: kind of got him open. This offense has potential to

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00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: be one of the best offenses in Arizona Cardinal's history.

1076
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: And yes, that's including that twenty nineteen. It's funny because

1077
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: when Kyler first showed up, Paul and what was and

1078
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: Cliff for showed up and everybody was wondering, I'm like, okay,

1079
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: how consistent that can they be in the red zone?

1080
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: And now Felipe breaks it down. Great. You look at

1081
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: these pieces, especially once they added James Connor. I mean this,

1082
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: this this idea that you could you can zone, not

1083
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: zone read, but almost play action to James Connor at

1084
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: the one or the two, which you absolutely have to

1085
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: deal with because he's he is automatic knowing the quarterback

1086
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: could pull it out and run around the end, or

1087
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: he could pull it out and throw it to one

1088
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: of these menu. I mean, there's so much better in

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00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: terms of the personnel they have in that red zone.

1090
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: It is it's hard to believe. And then you say

1091
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: the Packers usually don't stop anybody down there. That's that's

1092
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: probably a bad combination for Green Bay. The Cardinals were

1093
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: three for four in the red zone, and I think

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00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: there's still top three in red zone touchdown percentage in

1095
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: the NFL. They have been all season long, So I

1096
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: don't see how they would have fallen out after a

1097
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: three for four performance against Houston. Yeah, I completely agree

1098
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: on that front. I mean it's I think I think

1099
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: of Week two, twenty nineteen at and I think it

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00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: wass it was three times inside the five, Yeah, inside

1101
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: the five three different times, and they settled for three

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00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: field goals and I cannot tell you. I can tell

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00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: you now, I cannot tell you how frustrated the offensive

1104
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: line was a Q Shipley and company are like, oh,

1105
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: we need to come off the ball and straight ahead.

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00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: Let's just win in the trenches instead of spreading it

1107
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: out and getting creative in a compressed area. So, yes,

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00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: you could argue that's the biggest evolution of this offense

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00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: in the two plus years under Cliff kings Bearer. Absolutely,

1110
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: And you know what, I did ask him on his

1111
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: TV show this week about how much better they are

1112
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: on the red zone and he sort of smiled and

1113
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: he said, well, we do have a lot better weapons,

1114
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 1: and so he credited Steve Kim In the addition, there's

1115
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: no doubt I think you have to play to your talent.

1116
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: You have better weapons. Absolutely from twenty nineteen. But you know,

1117
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: it's an evolution for Cliff too. It's a mindset wrong

1118
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: with that. There's nothing wrong with saying the coach got better. Yep,

1119
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: over a couple you hope the coach gets better. Yeah,

1120
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Speaker 1: And he's been humble from day one. Yes, he's admitted

1121
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: from day one that he doesn't know everything about the NFL.

1122
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: He came in asking questions of all the veterans. Any

1123
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: smart person, I always told the kids, Okay, I get

1124
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: ready for some poly philosophy. The dumbest people in the

1125
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: world are those who think they know everything. Yea. And

1126
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: the smartest people are those who realize we know a

1127
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: fraction of what there is to know. And so when

1128
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: you come into a new setting where you've never coached. Now,

1129
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: he obviously was a backup quarterback for a number of years.

1130
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 1: He wasn't completely new to the NFL. But any smart

1131
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: person comes into a new environment, new in job, and

1132
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: they try and sort from those around him those who

1133
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: have done at the longest. Sounds like me on this podcast.

1134
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: You know, come into this podcast, you know, a little quiet,

1135
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: and then I got the pep talk from Darren Irvin,

1136
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: and then I'm a little bit more comfortable. In week seven,

1137
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, Cliff and I, you know, we got the

1138
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: same swag. You know, we're both pretty thin man, okay,

1139
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: and we want to learn, and we asked a bunch

1140
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: of questions. I don't know. I don't know either. Similar

1141
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: I've seen pictures of cliffs girlfriends. I haven't seen any

1142
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: pictures of your girlfriends. Oh hell, Okay, that's something I

1143
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: do not want to compare. It's I don't know, the

1144
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: only one of the two of you seems to have

1145
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: the raging ego. That's all I'll say on that one.

1146
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: So they comparison can't go too far. How about some

1147
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: bonus coverage here at the very end of Cardinals Underground,

1148
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: brought you by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner the Airs

1149
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: on our Cardinals. For those who have stuck around other

1150
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: than Craig Grilo, here's here's what we need to throw

1151
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: out there. That if you were wondering, if you were

1152
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: wondering what was up with Danny Amndola in that game. Oh,

1153
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: I was wondering about that. And you know what, people,

1154
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: when you hear Paul tell this story, you're going to

1155
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: appreciate the fact you stuck around because we were joking, like,

1156
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, there's that old famous quote somebody was getting

1157
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: roughed up all the time, and no, who was it?

1158
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: It was? It was I think it was Chase Edmonds's

1159
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: rookie year, and he was getting absolutely killed by this

1160
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: defensive end, not just like a pass rush, like the

1161
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: guy wanted to kick and they came to the sideline

1162
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: and one of the coaches looked Chase Edmonds in the

1163
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: eye and he said, what you say something about his mama? Like,

1164
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: why is he just taking it out on you? Snap

1165
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: after snap? Right? And so let's when I was wondering,

1166
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm watching Danny Amendolma. I said, he says someone about

1167
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: somebody's mama on the Cardinals defense. Well, it turns out

1168
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: that the two of them that he got into it

1169
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: with Isaiah Simmons before the game, a good hour before

1170
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: the game, we're doing the pregame show from the booth,

1171
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: and eagle eyed Jim almahand the best producer in the NFL,

1172
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: he notices down on the field, Wait a minute, there's

1173
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: a tussle. They're rooting in a tuning down there, woman

1174
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: and a stopping almost you got Isaiah Simmons and Danny Amondola.

1175
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: And it turns out I asked, and this is on

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00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: the record, it was over the air. I asked Isaiah

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00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: Simmons after the game. He had no problem answering the question.

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00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, in our opinion, Danny Amadola was in

1179
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: the wrong. He was on our twenty yard line, on

1180
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: our side of the field fielding punts and we said, man,

1181
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: you got a lot of yardage on your side of

1182
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: the fifty. Go over there, and Amidel was like no,

1183
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 1: And so then all of a sudden things were getting

1184
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: a little heated and there were no officials on the field,

1185
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: and Andy Lee, who was in full uniform the Cardinals

1186
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: punner came over and separated him like he was a

1187
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: fight referee, and he's he's separating him. He's no, no, no,

1188
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: come on, guys, And then some other people intervened and

1189
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: there you go. But then once the game started, he

1190
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: saw Isaiah Simmons will all something extra extra on Danny Vendel,

1191
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: and then Byron Murphy obviously got flagged up. Yeah, that's uh.

1192
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: It's nice to know that that Byron had Isaiah's back,

1193
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: although you'd rather not have that, Paul, I just want

1194
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: to add that one of our videographers, Jesse, had on

1195
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 1: them during the like the beginning of the game. He

1196
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: actually texted me, and everything's starting to make sense right now.

1197
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: He actually texted our like social chat our content crew.

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Speaker 1: He said, Simmons wants a fight. That's exactly what he said.

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Speaker 1: WHOA Okay, he didn't name names or aything. That's it.

1200
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: That's all he said, was Simmons wants a fight, so

1201
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: like obviously he was just that heated. He was, but

1202
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: at the and look, he played inspired football. He's a

1203
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals leading tackler again. And I said, there was this

1204
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: to him in our postgame interview. I said, Ron Wolfley

1205
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: paid you, maybe the ultimate compliment in the Wolfley lexicon,

1206
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: and it went something like this. During the course of

1207
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: the game, wolf said, and I quote loosely, Isaiah Simmons

1208
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: won't just put his face in the fan, he is

1209
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: the fan. And Isaiah Simmons actually gave a thoughtful answer

1210
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, I didn't play a whole

1211
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Speaker 1: bunch of inside linebacker at Clemson. Played a little bit,

1212
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: but I played a little bit of everything. Yeah, And

1213
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: he said, it's important to me that I prove I

1214
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: belong when it comes to the physicality of inside linebacker.

1215
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: And I thought that was insightful. I I gotta be honest,

1216
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know, when he was a rookie, we

1217
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: didn't get to talk to him a whole lot. They

1218
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: didn't bring obviously, they had to bring him out for

1219
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: the media all last year, and I didn't get a

1220
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 1: chance to really, I mean, I think he only talked

1221
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: two or three times. It was always over resumed, so

1222
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: you don't get to know him at all. Wasn't playing much,

1223
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: wasn't sure how to take him. But every time he's taught,

1224
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: and he's taught quite a bit this year because he's

1225
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: a more important player. And I think he's really thoughtful.

1226
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: He's a smart guy. I've talked to him one on

1227
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: one a few times and I agree with you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he gets it. I think he is absolutely

1229
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: smart enough to handle all these different positions. I love

1230
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: the fact that he's physical. He's so damned fast when

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01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: they're running some plays on the perimeter, and we've joked

1232
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: about in the past, but Daryl Washington and trying to

1233
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: find that other Daryl Washington, and that's what they're hoping

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01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick was going to be, and that obviously didn't

1235
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: work out. Isaiah Simmons is that guy, the guy who

1236
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: can go fifty three and a third yards sideline a

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01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: sideline in a blink of an eye, and it's just impressive.

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Speaker 1: So we'll wrap it up with that stat once again.

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01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: Everybody now that Aaron Rodgers in his last six games

1240
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: without Davante Adams. What's his record felipe six and oh yeah,

1241
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: and it's the touchdown interception ratio. Yeah, something like that,

1242
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Speaker 1: seventeen to one. Thanks for paying attention to your own podcast, guys,

1243
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: appreciate it. That was like an hour at the very

1244
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: beginning of the poets, right, I'm the one with the

1245
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: on one mentality I didn't have. I didn't have the

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Speaker 1: quote at my disposal earlier. So I'm gonna this is

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Speaker 1: my walk off comment, and I'm quoting Aaron Rodgers because

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Speaker 1: since it's a road game, the Cardinals might have the

1249
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: advantage because he has to sleep in a hotel. Bete.

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Speaker 1: And here's the quote, quoting Aaron Rodgers. Maybe you guys

1251
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: know this or don't know this, but there's an untiquated

1252
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: procedural thing in our league where the most important night

1253
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: of sleep we stay at a hotel, he said with

1254
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: a smirk. And I don't want to blame it on

1255
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: the hotel. It's a nice hotel, but my bed at

1256
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: the house that I sleep in every other night of

1257
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: my time here in Green Bay would probably be a

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: little bit of a better option. I think that's just

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Speaker 1: my opinion. End snark. Aaron Rodgers and that'll do it

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Speaker 1: until game time Thursday night. For this edition, a Cardinals

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