1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya Red and I 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Heart Radio Podcast. Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in. Scrub 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: a dub dub Thursday, Thursday, Thursday. Who's getting CHRONK tonight? 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: Not you, Nada? Are you? Are you on the no 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: alcohol train yet or is it still the casine? I'm 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: not sober curious, but I am sober this week because 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: I'm gearing up for like book launch week, and I 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: feel as though next week is going to be very 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: intense in terms of schedule for me. So I'm trying 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: to eat super clean, drink super clean, your best, feel 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: my best. Yeah, I feel my strongest, because that's important. 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: It is important. Book launch is happening. Yeah, we're like 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: T minus whatever days. I just can't even believe it's here. 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I know this. Here's flying by. It's 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm so happy you said that. Because it's Valentine's Day 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: very soon, then in St Patrick's Day. Then we're basically 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: into summer. After summer, we have the iHeart Rating Music 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: Festival in September, and then it's basically Halloween, your birthday, 19 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: and Thanksgiving and we're done. I'm so stressed. I hate 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: that I hate that mentality. There's so much time in 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: between these things. Not big job. I'm just saying St. 22 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Patrick's not because it's like March and then summer's June, March, April, 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: made Junie. You went from St. Patrick's Day to iHeart 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: Festival in September. There was a large of summer in there. 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: Summer that's July August. That's a lot of time six months. 26 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you're trying to plan big things, 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: it's time to get on that. Also, do you go 28 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: really hard for St. Patty's there? That's not true. I 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: always Celbady to get some cute little sunglasses and like 30 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: go to some sort of pub, not a pub, but 31 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: I do and vibe. Yeah, I think you liked the 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: idea of like participating, but it's not like you're like 33 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: out like in the streets, like on a parade or something. 34 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: I haven't gotten a parade. And I'm just saying, like 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: the way you included St. Patty's Day like it was Christmas, Yeah, 36 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: basically Christmas. Because you know who's on the show today, 37 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: Candice came. I know so Candice and I actually well 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: we met. They were on our podcast a while though, 39 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: her and Kayla and then Beck and I read an 40 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: event like a an industry event and yeah, that's right, industry, 41 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: and Candice was there and I remember, Um, I was 42 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: telling her how I just started dating somebody. This was 43 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: right when robbing I started dating. Oh my gosh. Yeah, 44 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: and that's when she was just so kind and so 45 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: warm and gave me her phone number because I was like, 46 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I've never dated a divorced dad before, and so she 47 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: got my number and has just been such a beautiful 48 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: friend to me throughout this entire process because I feel 49 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: like she'd been there and stuff. So um, I just 50 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: we just created like a really nice bond. And she's 51 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: also a fellow podcaster, and she launched a new podcast, 52 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: a super Blum podcast. So we're going to have her 53 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: on as our guest and scrubbing In right now. So 54 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: right now we're going to back. We'll be right back 55 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: with Candice. Al Right, we are back, and we we can't. 56 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: I don't even remember the year it was when you 57 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: were on Scrubbing In It. It would have been like 58 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: five years ago. Maybe. Yeah, that is the voice of 59 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: Candice King, who Yeah, let's get a warrant here, Thank you, 60 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: thank you. Thank you. We were trying to think of 61 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: when that was, and I was like, that was either 62 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: two or two thousand nineteen. Yeah, I was around that. 63 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: It was like five years ago. It was it was before, 64 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: which it's like a whole basically we were all much 65 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: younger and freer and less concerned then, you know, Yeah, 66 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: and a lot has happened since then, I think for 67 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: all of us, which is great. You know, we've all 68 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: been through different things and growth, and you know, we're 69 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: really excited to have you back. I know you've really 70 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: been a special person for Tanya the last few years, 71 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: navigating her relationships. So I feel like it's been a 72 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: long time since you've been on the podcast, but I 73 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: feel like you have been a very prominent person in 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: my life. And Um, the thing that I think is 75 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: so special about you is because I was saying earlier 76 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: before you came on, we were at some industry event. 77 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was, but it was a 78 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: BFF thing. It was like for yeah, yeah and Taylor. 79 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: Uh it was loft loft loft, Okay, So we were 80 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: all um there and you guys had just come on 81 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: the podcast, and I remember talking to you and I 82 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: was explaining how I was newly dating this guy. We 83 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: now Robbie, UM, but the time, I was like newly 84 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: dating this guy and he was a divorced dad, and 85 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: I remember you were so sweet. You literally gave me 86 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: your phone number right there and there on the spot, 87 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: and you were like, call me if you have any questions, 88 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: text me if you need anything. And it was that 89 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: gesture like people don't do that in l A just 90 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: in general. And I feel like it was just really 91 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: really special and you it wasn't just like a like 92 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: an arbitrary invite, like you really followed through. You were 93 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: always there for me, You answered all my questions. I 94 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: felt like we became like instant best friends and it 95 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: was just so nice. And I feel like it was 96 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I just look at you as 97 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: like this little guardian angel that was sent to me. 98 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: I well, that's everything you just said is so kind, 99 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: first of all, and I'm so glad that we met 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: that day, and and I get it. I mean, I've 101 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: had UM. I feel like I've been lucky enough to 102 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: have other people do that for me, and in a 103 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: whole bunch of different ways in life, whether it's you know, 104 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: navigating career relationships, French anything. I think. Um, you know, 105 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of different kinds of friends you 106 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: can have. Um, A lot of my super close friends 107 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: I've known for a long time know this about me 108 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: that I'm the worst text message person ever, Like I think, 109 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: I just I have like seven hundred unread text messages. 110 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm one of those people. Um, Like the phone scares me. 111 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: But I'm also a writer or die. Like if someone 112 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: says nine one one, I need you right now, I'll 113 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: be like plain booked, I'm there. What can I do? 114 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: I'm great at Like, hey, I have the super vulnerable 115 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: question about like how to navigate this situation? Love that 116 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: if it's like how are you, I'm like, that is 117 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: my nightmare. So I have loved that we've been able 118 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: to reach out to each other over these last couple 119 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: of years and hang out in Nashville and stay in 120 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: touch and it's and it's so fun and and truly 121 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 1: you guys, I mean, Becca, you were the first person 122 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: to be on directionally challenged podcasts that I co hosted 123 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 1: with Kayla for many years who Kayla is still hosting 124 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: now And you don't realize when you're starting something new, 125 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: how you just need someone else to just show up 126 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: for you and be like, hey, I'm here, no questions asked, 127 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: Like no one's trying to get anything from this except 128 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm just here to support you while you try this 129 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: new venture. And so truly both of you do that 130 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: for so many people in your life. So I'm just 131 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: grateful to know you each in those separate ways. I mean, 132 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: I what you and Caleb both were so kind to 133 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: me when I think my It was my first thing 134 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: that I did post Bachelor, I did a photo show 135 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: me your Candice and Caleb were also modeling that day, 136 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: and they were just so kind to me. And my 137 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: sister was like a massive Vampire's diary fan and vampire 138 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: vampire diary, like something came out wrong. Um, And Candice 139 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: made a video for her, and I made a video 140 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: for you my stepdaughters, Yeah, because we wrote we'd all 141 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: watched your season and like I was a superman. Um. Yes, 142 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: it was like this perfect moment of like, like you know, 143 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: super fandom. Um. But I feel like the word model 144 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: is a stretch for me that day, so basically it's 145 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: show me your MoU is a fantastic clothing line. If 146 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: anyone needs like wonderful clothes, go check it out. Um 147 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: it's Cammy a Bear. I've known since Cammy Miller now, 148 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: but I've known her since we were like sixteen years old, 149 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 1: so I remember when when her and Clone started that line. 150 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: So it's just been that that's always just fun. I 151 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: feel like I just get to be along for the 152 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: riot on that. But that was a very fun day. 153 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: I just I you were the first um like celebrity 154 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: at your status. I mean you are a celebrity, like 155 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: let's just acknowledge the facts, but you were the first 156 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: you ever you were. You were the first person I 157 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: met at that level, and I remember thinking like almost 158 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: like it almost ruined everyone else for me because after that, 159 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: I felt like everyone's so nice in this industry. Really 160 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: learned that that is not the case. Yeah, yeah, you 161 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: know it's yeah. I'll just keep my mouth shut on 162 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: that one, but thank you. I'll take the compliment and 163 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: keep my mouth shut. But it is true, like you 164 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: really are this little like angel that for all looks 165 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: around the city and it's responding to text, not responding 166 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: to but she did respond, so like Candice was really 167 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: helping me out, Like kind of you I feel like 168 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: you were like a big sister kind of guiding me 169 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: in this new relationship that I was in. And it 170 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: was really fun because when we went out to Nashville 171 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: to Ben and Jessic's wedding, um I set up like 172 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: a like a coffee date breakfast with Candice and so 173 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: she was finally able to meet Robbie and it was 174 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: kind of like this full circle moment that just was 175 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: really special well of mine. I loved that that coffee 176 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: shop two is the best. Tanya loved it too. There 177 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: was like a cute note thing outside where people left 178 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: like encouraging notes. Yeah, it wasn't like circle. There was 179 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: a little thing where you like drop a note, take 180 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: a note, And I was like, this is the most 181 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: Tanya Box I've ever seen in my life. Well, I 182 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about your new podcast because you have 183 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: gone through a lot of change since we last talked 184 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: to you, and you launched this podcast and it's kind 185 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: of people navigating their own journeys of grief and loss 186 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: and challenges in their life, and I wanted you to 187 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: kind of expound on like what expand on what what 188 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: it's been like and if it's been like a healing 189 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: process for you starting this podcast. Yeah. I mean what's 190 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: interesting is I didn't even first one. I knew I 191 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: wanted to start a new podcast, and I didn't really 192 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: know which way it was, like what I wanted to 193 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: really focus in on. I had a few ideas, and 194 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: part of that is also coming up with a name, 195 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: and it's really hard to come up with the name 196 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: because a lot of them are taken and uh, and 197 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: so super Bloom struck me. There's a band called Mr. 198 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: Wives and they have a song called super Bloom that 199 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: is really really good if you need something to pump 200 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: you up. Um. And it really struck me that I 201 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: actually was able to go and see the California super 202 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: bloom which occurred in the last one was in and 203 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: it was all the California poppy and it was just 204 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: such a big time. And then even just researching what 205 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: a super bloom is, it's I just fell in love 206 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: with the with just the science of it and what 207 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,239 Speaker 1: a super bloom is is it is actually a botanical 208 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: phenomenon and it doesn't happen every year, and in order 209 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: for it's it's this whole giant super bloom of wild 210 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: flowers and an order for the super bloom to happen, 211 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: it only happens in desert landscapes where it's traditionally obviously drier. 212 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: But for the super bloom to happen, you have to 213 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: have it a very wet, rainy season, like it has 214 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: to just rain and just have the heaviest, never ending 215 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: rain downpour, and that because of the heavy, heavy rain, 216 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: the water is able to nurture the seeds underneath the ground. 217 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: And because of that rain, the seeds become stronger and 218 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: are nurtured and are ready to end. They're actually able 219 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: to grow and burst from the ground and create this 220 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: beautiful super bloom. So I think that we can all 221 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: say we've been changed, since there is no one I 222 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: know who hasn't had to have difficult conversations with family, 223 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: who hasn't had to have difficult conversations with themselves, who 224 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: hasn't experienced loss or grief um in any form, And 225 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: so I really kind of I was inspired by the 226 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: concept of sitting down with people to kind of reflect 227 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: on periods of time where even though it seemed like 228 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: that was nothing could get better and it was the 229 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: worst experience of their life, that's actually the time where 230 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: they were being nurtured and becoming the best, most strong 231 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: version of themselves to really come out the other side 232 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: and bloom. So that's kind of the heart and the 233 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: concept of um of what this new podcast is and 234 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: in the root of the conversations that I'm having. And 235 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's been, it's been. I was able to 236 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: talk to Tanya last week, she's on the podcast um 237 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: Um I was. It was so fun um and and 238 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: like one of the conversations I was really moved by. 239 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: I spoke with Amanda Knox a few months ago, and 240 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, I remember following her case and she's our 241 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: age and so it's really and she's a mother now 242 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: and so to reflect on what she's been through, and 243 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: so you know, there's various um it's very like the 244 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: conversations are broad as far as who I'm speaking with 245 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: and what we're necessarily speaking about, but the theme of 246 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: just rebirth and growth is throughout. For sure. Has it 247 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: made you feel um like comfortable and safe opening up 248 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: about what you've been through? Like have you have like 249 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: hearing other people's experiences and struggles. Has it made you 250 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, there's a there's that feeling of hope 251 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: and greener pastures in the future for me, the super 252 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: bloom Like have you felt that? I, well, so I have. 253 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: With the introductory episode to the podcast is actually just 254 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: me on the mic. It's not an interview at all. 255 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: And I appropriately named the episode in the Dirt, and 256 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: so you can take that for what you will. And 257 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm just simply admitting that I am in the dirt, 258 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: you know. And and so that's where I'm at right now, 259 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: and that's totally okay. And um, so I've I've always 260 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: had a hard time, I think, really opening up. I mean, 261 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: put me at a dinner party and I'm just an 262 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: open book. But especially on social media, I feel very 263 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: awkward in front of the camera. I always do get 264 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: nervous about speaking on a microphone. Um, and I've always 265 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: been that way. Yeah, yeah, I can. I can be 266 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: someone who obsesses for a while, wondering if I if 267 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: something came out the wrong way or so. Yeah, it's 268 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: that type a perfectionist and so interesting. I would not 269 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: guess that about you, uh huh huh. Yeah, I know. 270 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: I've done a lot of therapy. Is awesome. It really 271 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: helps helped me a lot over the years, not just 272 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: obsess about like one thing that came out wrong at 273 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: a dinner party or like an event or anything. UM. 274 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I've I've found it cathartic in my own way. 275 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: I think for anyone that listens. I start each episode 276 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: off with, UM, essentially a personal essay that I write. 277 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you if you write that and 278 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: then you read it right, okay, because I was like, 279 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: this is way too poised and thoughtful. Like I was like, 280 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: when we're doing the podcast, we do not sound like that. 281 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: I was listening to and I was like, she's glad 282 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: this is something she wrote down and she's reading and 283 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: it has to be yes, yes, it makes me feel better. Actually, 284 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: I think even if we wrote him down, we I 285 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't know how you know, it's 286 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: very your podcast is very thoughtful. Like it's a story 287 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: that she's like, she's obviously so she's written it and 288 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: she reads it, but it ties into the guests in 289 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: a certain way. That's very It's like a short, little 290 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: anecdotal story and it's like very thought out. And I 291 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: was like, wow, how do you what's the process of 292 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: doing that? I love that? Thanks. I funny enough. I've 293 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: always like writing classes have always been like my little 294 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: secret hobby. UM. I've always found myself in like a 295 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: course or a weekend intensive or even there's a great 296 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: improv studio in l A that instead of taking improv classes, 297 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: I found myself taking the like essay writing classes. UM. 298 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: So it's been like my version of kind of like 299 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: journaling or when I get overwhelmed. Um. But like, for instance, 300 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: I was reminded a friend of mine text me and 301 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: was like this this I loved this essay part. And 302 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: I didn't even remember when I said, but I interviewed, um. 303 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: I interviewed a woman who has a great uh stand 304 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: up routine and a lot of people know where as 305 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: Lady a d h D. And so she was diagnosed 306 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: with a d h D in her forties. She's also 307 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: started a career as a stand up comedian later in life. 308 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: And it's like her story is wonderful and amazing and 309 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: inspiring and and but she also, um, it feels like 310 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: she's always like the loudest one in the room. So 311 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: I started the episode off talking about an experience I had, 312 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of months ago, where I felt 313 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: like the loudest person in the room and it had 314 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: to do with me, like crying in a restaurant and 315 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: feeling just overwhelmed and feeling like I'm too much and 316 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: all because of the way someone described into growny and 317 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: I was moved to tears and and just so obviously 318 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: this is why I write them down because I can't 319 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: speak about it as eloquently as I do when I 320 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: actually type it all out. Um. But I try to 321 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: take things from my own life that um and share 322 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: stories and moments that I have found as a little 323 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: like I don't know if you want to call them 324 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: like winks from the universe or those moments where you go, 325 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: this feels significant for some reason. And so I have 326 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: a dear family friend who who she calls them God winks, 327 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: and I really love that. And I'm not necessaryly, it's 328 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: just something that I really like that. So whether you 329 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: call them little universe winks or godwins or we love 330 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: godwinks over here on this show, yeah, so um So 331 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: those are the moments I try to tie into each 332 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: episode because I feel like they're worth sharing. I like 333 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: the term in the dirt because I do feel like 334 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: you go through those moments and you go, like I 335 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: saw this video the other day, and it was saying, 336 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: how you know, like when it's really hot outside, like 337 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: in the summer, and you're like, I don't I don't 338 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: know if i'll ever feel comfortably cool again, Like I 339 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: can't even imagine that I'll ever like I can't imagine 340 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: feeling cold because I'm so miserably hot right now, right 341 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: and then the winter and the fall comes and you 342 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: feel cold again, and then it's so cold that you're like, 343 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: I just want to feel warm. I don't know if 344 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: I'll ever get warm again because I'm so cold, and 345 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: then sure enough the summer comes, and it was saying, 346 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: how like that's how sometimes it is with like the 347 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: happy moments and the sad moments in life, Like when 348 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: you're when you're happy, you're like, I can't imagine ever 349 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: being sad, like I'm everything's going right for me, I'm 350 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: so happy. And then sure enough something happens because that's life, 351 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: and you feel sadness and you feel down, and then 352 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: the like best reminder is that sometimes when you're going 353 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: through the sad parts, when you're in the dirt and 354 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: you're in the growth process where you're like, I don't 355 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: know if I can ever if i'll ever feel joy 356 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: or happiness or see like the light it comes again, 357 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: you know. And it was like such a reminder. I 358 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: like that term in the dirt because every beautiful flower, 359 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: every beautiful thing that we see, starts in the dirt 360 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: where you don't see the growth of it, like the 361 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: roots and where it's happening. And I think that's a 362 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: beautiful like analogy for what it looks like to be 363 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: a human. I want to ask you more about being 364 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: in the dirt, but we're gonna take a quick break, 365 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: take it away, telling you thank you so much. You know, 366 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm just making sure that it's a well oiled machine 367 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: over here when we need to. Yeah, you keep us oiled, responsible, 368 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: Susan over here responsible, I'm sure Rebecca responsible over here. 369 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. But we're talking about being in 370 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: the dirt, and I feel like, do you want to 371 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: share or like, do you really feel like do you 372 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: still feel like you're in the dirt? I feel like 373 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: you are the podcast in the when the new year started? Right, Yeah, 374 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: but that's you know, I did um. But I also 375 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, I'm absolutely still in the dirt. I'll 376 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: just say that, and not in a bad way. I mean, 377 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: what I think is been really interesting is also realizing 378 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: that I'm someone who likes to just make everything better. 379 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: I want to fix it. Give me a problem, I'll 380 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: come up with ten solutions. I I like and I 381 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: like a schedule. I like a plan. I don't like 382 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: when there's no plan. Um, I'm with you, with you. 383 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: But that's where I think this time in my life 384 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: right now, I'm I have some you know, personal, very 385 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: big changes going on in my life, you know my 386 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: and so I'll just say that just to keep it 387 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: very simple. Um, that involves just a lot of grief, 388 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: and it's in big changes can have all the feelings, 389 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: and I think, um, it's easy to distract yourself when 390 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: you're going through a big change in life. And so 391 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: this process of making this podcast and kind of looking 392 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: at those little moments of life and actually noticing them 393 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: has also really taught me how important it is to 394 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: just make friends with the grief a little bit, not 395 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: sit in it, not just wallow in it, but sit 396 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: next to it and hold its hand and say, I 397 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: see you, and I need to understand you too, because 398 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: I am going to be on the other side of this. 399 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: But but I have to also honor that it's okay 400 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: to have all of these feelings. And it's important to 401 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: honor those feelings because that also means that you know 402 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: you feel that way because you cared to begin with. 403 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: So I feel like there's it doesn't mean that it's 404 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: necessarily a bad thing, and I've actually seen um the 405 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: positive of It's funny. I actually was on a walk 406 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: this morning with a girlfriend and and we were just 407 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: talking about similar feelings of you know, overall theme of 408 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: being in the dirt I'll just say, And and we 409 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: started talking about like future selves because you know, when 410 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: you know you're going to get through the other side 411 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: of it, you know you will eventually, and that future 412 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: person and is always just like so happy. They're like, man, 413 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: I would look how great I handled that. Like they're 414 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: just they're just delated. They feel stronger, they feel better, 415 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: and it's like the present person is always like, yeah, 416 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: you're welcome, You're welcome. This is for you. You're welcome 417 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: for doing the hard part for you. Yeah. Yeah, I 418 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: will say though, I feel like, you know, the thing 419 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: that I think is so beautiful about talking about these 420 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: things is like a lot of people have gone through 421 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: what you're going through. Do you know what I mean? 422 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: And have come out on getting a divorce. I think 423 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: that's the word that it still feels weird to say, 424 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: but yes, that's what I'm going through. And like it's 425 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: this word that I feel like has this like certain connotation, 426 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: but it is. I don't I mean not to make 427 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: it light, but it is very common and people are 428 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: do get on the other side, and like really beautiful 429 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: things can happen post rainstorm, and I just feel like, 430 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, I want to, Um, I want to help 431 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: you and like be that light for you like you 432 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: were for me, you know, two or three years ago 433 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: and I was kind of going through a little bit 434 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 1: of a storm, and so like I just want I 435 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: just want you to know that you always have me 436 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: to kind of you. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. 437 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: It is really beautiful I feel I don't know, have 438 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: you guys felt the shift, you know in this kind 439 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: of post world where I feel like either people are 440 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: still just as distanced or all of a sudden people 441 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: are so heart open and willing like to lead with 442 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: their vulnerability in a new way. Um. I've definitely felt that. 443 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: And what I will say is, yeah, you're completely right, 444 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: the divorce is very common. It is not this like 445 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: thing that no one has ever done before. But what 446 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: I have found interesting is like anything else, like in 447 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: until you've been through the process of you know, losing 448 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: a loved one, Like I don't know what it's like 449 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: to lose a loved one, but anyone who has been 450 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: through that experience before, they have an understanding with each other. 451 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know what it's like to you know, 452 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: or even having a baby, Like when you when you 453 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: see someone else who's been in that like first six 454 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: weeks of having a baby, you just know what they're 455 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: going through on some cellular level. So it has been 456 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: really beautiful to just see um, so many people even 457 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: just like strangers at airports, you know, if you you 458 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: find yourself like just airport bars have just been so 459 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: funny when you start talking to people, and people are 460 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: just so willing to share these days, and so I 461 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: have been so encouraged by this kind of like shift 462 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: and willingness to be vulnerable, um, especially when it's come 463 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: to the topic of like separation and divorce. It's people 464 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: have been very willing to share their stories and and 465 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: I've been really moved by it. So I try to 466 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: do my small apart, but also with keeping healthy boundaries 467 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: because you're in it, you're in it. Yeah. Yeah, I 468 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: felt like that a lot when I before Haley and 469 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: I went public with our relationship, and like the coming 470 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: out process was very interesting because my friends who weren't 471 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: going through that or had never been through that, We're 472 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: just like, but you're going to get so much support, 473 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: Like you're gonna be so loved, you know, like think 474 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: about all the positives. But when you're in it, and 475 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: it's like you're going through that, you're like, but what 476 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: if they don't, you know, like you're thinking of all 477 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: the things of like what could go wrong, the fear 478 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: you're not thinking. And it was like at that point, 479 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: it was like so many people have done it before me, 480 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: so many people have been through the process of coming 481 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: out and sharing their love, and I felt so scared 482 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: because it felt so personal and heavy to me. Even 483 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: though so many other people have done it, It's like 484 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: such a unique experience when it's your own, you know, like, 485 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: regardless of how common it's, it's still heavy and it's 486 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: still your own. Like going through it feels very personal. 487 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: Did you have people you were able did you find 488 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: anyone who you were able to connect with who did 489 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: understand on some sort of you know, equal level, because 490 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: you also, you know, are not just coming out to friends, family, 491 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: but like to the world in a very public way. Well, 492 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: I think because all my friends and family and like 493 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: people close to me knew about it. It was like 494 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: when we did go public last year, there was this 495 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: sense of like safety, knowing that we had that support, 496 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: which was the people that matter so much to us. 497 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: So it almost felt like I I felt ready because 498 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: I knew that I had the support that I needed 499 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: regardless of what people responded or how they reacted. Um, 500 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I think you know, everyone you 501 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: talked to who has gone through the process of either 502 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: coming out or recognizing that um they're queer or whatever 503 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: it is, they kind of have a similar experience of 504 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: like navigating it so that you can relate to people, 505 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: even though if it's very different because everyone's situation is different, 506 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: You find people and you connect to things like, oh yeah, 507 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: I like felt that exact same thing, which is really 508 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: important to like be able to share that and open 509 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: it up because most of my friend group they're all straight, 510 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: you know, like most of my friends are true, I 511 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: didn't have that, you know. It was luckily I have 512 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: two younger sisters that are both um gay, and they 513 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: they were very close to me at the time and 514 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: living with me, so I had them actually for a 515 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: lot of support. Even though they're my younger sisters. It 516 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: was really important to me. So I think it's just 517 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: very important to find your people and to find a 518 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: place that's safe while you're going through something like that. Yeah, 519 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: and take your time, yeah, yeah, and take your time. 520 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: And I like that you said sitting with the grief 521 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: because I think so often it's so easy to distract 522 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: from what's going on and look outside. Yes, it is 523 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: so easy, so so easy. Yes, what's your I really 524 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: resonate it when you said someone texting you about something 525 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: specific or like I really need help or advice going 526 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: through this. But then if someone says something vague, I 527 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: do the same thing, like my brain shuts off. I'm 528 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: like I can't respond to that. No, I know. It 529 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: makes me think back to like being in school and 530 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: when you're passing notes, you know what I mean, Like 531 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: pass a note that's like like do you like so 532 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: and so circule yes or no, Like that's like big 533 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: important information, you know, like don't be like what's up? Yeah? 534 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: Like what what do you? Like? How are you? How 535 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: am I? I don't know? Like I'm on my third coffee, 536 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: like I'm trying to get gas, I can't put my 537 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: keys and now used to sit down for five minutes 538 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: and put out a text message about how I'm doing. 539 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm barely alive. That's how I'm doing. I'm 540 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: not going to write that. I'm like, that's a phone 541 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: call conversation, but there's a good chance I won't answer 542 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: the phone, So I don't know what to tell Like, 543 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: that's definitely a phone call, but I don't know when 544 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: I'll be ready to enter the phone. So yeah, you 545 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: give me a nine one one. I love a nine 546 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: one one. Do you feel like you've met because you 547 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: moved to Nashville kind of? Was it during the pandemic? 548 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: It's right, well, I mean we're all at this what's like, 549 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: what is what isn't the pandemic at this point? Um, 550 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: it's I moved last August. You feel like you have 551 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: like a like a like a home base there? Do 552 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: you feel at home? There no chance I ever moved 553 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: back to l A. I don't think so, unless like 554 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: I actually got a job that made me be there. 555 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: But I really love it here. I mean I spent 556 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: almost a decade in Atlanta, so I was used to 557 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: that speed. Um, I've always loved Nashville. I mean I 558 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: drive to my my drive my kids to school, and 559 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: we passed by horses and turkeys. I mean even on 560 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: our walk around the lake today, like my girlfriend and 561 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: I saw like deer and wild turkeys and little car 562 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: knolls and turtles, you know, And it's just like that's 563 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: our runyan, you know what. And it's beautiful and seasonal 564 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: and I can breathe. And I want l A to 565 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: be a city that works for me so much, and 566 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: it just didn't. I found myself to be there and 567 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: kind of um going backwards in a way of waiting 568 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: by the phone or comparing myself to a lot of people, 569 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: and and the city just felt so big and it 570 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: didn't bring out like the best of me as a 571 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: as a mother, I felt overwhelmed and trying to kind 572 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: of go and do a bunch of things and activities 573 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: with the kids. And here I feel like we can 574 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: just do so many fun things in a day. I 575 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: also I am not scared of moving. I moved a 576 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: lot when I was a kid. I travel alone, Like 577 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: I I'm fine making new friends. Like that's never anything 578 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: that's been really scary. It doesn't mean it's not scary 579 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: in the moment. And weird to try to like make 580 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: a new friend in your thirties. I want to go 581 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: get coffee or like a glass of wine to a 582 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: and um, you know, like what movies do you like? 583 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: Did you hear you on like bumble dff way? I know? Um, 584 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: I got really like I didn't do things I so 585 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: I before moving here, I actually did a Christmas movie 586 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: where I got to play Reba McIntire's daughter. And one 587 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: of the producers of it was Melissa Joan Hart and 588 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: she lives here and so she um, so I got 589 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: her number from her mom. I creeped in, was like, hey, 590 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: paula kind of your daughter's number because I need friends. 591 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: And so she invited me out to like this mom 592 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: group and they are the most and like write or 593 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: die women ever like that. I mean, I remember we 594 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: all there on this text chain, which you know if 595 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: you I'm not a big texture, but they text all 596 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: day all that there's like thirty messages, but I love 597 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: reading it like it's my version of like it's like 598 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: dumois and then that text change. I'm set um, but 599 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: there are me saying and so we do like movie 600 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: nights and dinner nights. I'm also the co leader of 601 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: my daughter's girl Scout troop that we are also a 602 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: very biggest thieves group of women and so fun, very fun. 603 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: It's very very fun. Yes, if you guys need cookies, 604 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: I can hook you up. Let me know. Yeah, I do. 605 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: Are you like true Beverly Hills? Like? Is that you 606 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: just like we are the opposite. We're pretty chill, were 607 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: like the very chill like for all the type a 608 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: stuff that I do. This is where we're pretty um, 609 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: We're pretty relaxed. Yeah, I keep forgetting. I want to 610 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: set you up on a friend date with Meredith Seacrest 611 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: because she lives in Nashville and she's so cute. Yeah, 612 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta fire up the text chain because 613 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: she's so like you guys are one and the same, 614 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: like little angels from Heaven, little Nashville angels. When you 615 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: do you know you're in anigram type? Do you know that? 616 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: Have you ever done that? Wait? Why why? Because everyone 617 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: I have been asked is almost every week for the 618 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: last like three months to decide we operate. And the 619 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: this was my last like girls like night. We went 620 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: and had Margarita's and and that's all like my two 621 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: girlfriends that were like all about the instagrams going deep. 622 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: So finally on the way home, I took the test 623 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: like in my uber and I was like, guys, after 624 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: a few Margharita's, I'm a six. And my friend was like, no, 625 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: you're not, You're a ten. And what's the six? What's 626 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: the six? I don't know, but she thought I was 627 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: like downgrading myself. She's like, no, you're a ten of 628 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: a woman, she was. I was like, what do you do? 629 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: I thought there were only nine intagrams. She's like, why 630 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: are you selling yourself short? I was like, I'm talking 631 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: about the instagram. She's like, oh, I thought you were 632 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: feeling bad about yourself. I was like, no, how did 633 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: we get here when you just said ten? I was 634 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: like I don't know how to tell her there are 635 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: not ten aim So I'm not as familiar with that 636 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: Asbecca is, because well I'm not super familiar. I was 637 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: just thinking about a lot of the things that you said, 638 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: and I relate to a lot of them, But then 639 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: like the planning type a thing is more Tania, but 640 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: I don't I was curious if you New Year's but 641 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: you're six apparently a six after few margharitas, so I 642 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: don't know if that changes. I'm i'd probably be different 643 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: after a few margarita. We should all have an indiogram 644 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: sober and indiogram after a few margharitas and see if 645 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: they line up. Um. But I was also I just 646 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: I feel I really connect to the part of overthinking conversations, 647 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: Like when I go to social events, I leave and 648 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, did I why did I share what I 649 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: shared with that stranger that I just met, Like, honestly, 650 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: I like overshare so much out of I don't know, nervousness, 651 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: social anxiety, whatever it is. And then I leave and 652 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm like anxious about that. And same thing on the podcast, 653 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: where like, I mean, we've been doing this for a 654 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: long time, but I still have times where I'm like, 655 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: did I Misspeah? You're fine, so I you know that 656 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: why I asked. I don't know if it has anything 657 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: to do with your indiogram. It could I don't know, 658 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: but I'm like, it's a word that I've never ever 659 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: heard before. And in the last couple of months, it's 660 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: like every single week I'm like, what, what godwink is 661 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: this to say? Maybe there's something there. I don't know 662 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: what it would be. I don't either. It's got something 663 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: to do with six I don't know. I know you 664 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: do a lot of therapy, but are you lik into 665 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: self help books? No? I try like it's interesting. I 666 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: don't know. No, I'm not. I'm just not. Yeah, I'm 667 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: not like, no, I want to be. I I also like, 668 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: I used to be a very like voracious reader and 669 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden when I had babies and 670 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: it was really hard, Like my brain just doesn't stick 671 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: to the page very well. Um, I can do it 672 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: when I'm like cramming for a podcast episode. I tried 673 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: to read the book or most of the book, um, 674 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: But other than that, it's it's tough for me to 675 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: really get through it because I feel like you're somebody 676 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: that's very like self aware. Yes, I believe that I am. 677 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: I think that there's but I mean that could be 678 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: a whole other podcast episode. Probably I'd have to check 679 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: with my therapist on that one. Um, but it is 680 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: I do. Look, I love therapy. I've I've been in 681 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: therapy since I was eighteen, UM with various therapists through 682 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: the years, and what I've found is, um, I like 683 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: going in with like one thing I'm trying to really 684 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: navigate and seeing if that person is able to kind 685 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: of walk me through that kind of chapter, that path. Um. 686 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: But I love it. I I encourage anyone to give 687 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: it a go. If you're too scared, just go for it. 688 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 1: And also, if you go to therapy and you don't 689 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: like the therapist the first time, it's fine. It's like dating, 690 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: Like just because you go and have a drink doesn't 691 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: mean you're married to them. And sometimes they make it 692 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: weird when you try to break up with them. Like 693 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: I tried a therapist here and she was like, give 694 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: me one more chance, and I was like no, And 695 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: then I was like, wow, this is a breakthrough for me, 696 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: this is like healthy boundaries. No, she was like giving 697 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: you a chance to like work on what y'all talk 698 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: about testing me, testing me like a pass. I graduated 699 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: from your therapy going to college. Now I want to 700 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: talk about what you see if you want to talk 701 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: about it. I want to talk about what you see 702 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: moving forward career wise personally. But first we're gonna take 703 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: a break. Okay, we are back. I scrapped the name earlier, 704 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: but as I said in the beginning, you were all 705 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: night little show called the Vampire Diaries. What did I 706 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: say earlier, Vampire's Diary, Vampire Diary, the Vampire's Diaryire is 707 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:13,959 Speaker 1: this diary? Um? Do you ever see a reunion type 708 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: show happening? It's so funny. I got asked this question 709 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: recently and a questions. I mean, but I with the 710 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: show just technically ended last year because we had the 711 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: original spinoff and then we had Legacies, um, which just 712 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: finished in the spring of one, so I think it'd 713 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: be too soon. You know it it is. I still 714 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: pinched myself. I can't believe that I was a part 715 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: of something that just especially now with streaming, people continue 716 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: to watch things all the time, and it's you know, 717 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: it's like you get older, but then the people watching 718 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: it get younger, and then that feels really interesting. Um. 719 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 1: Today at the coffee shop, at these really sweet girls 720 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: in college come up and they were your voice sounds 721 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: so different, and I was like, well, I've aged thirteen years. 722 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: That's a funny comment to make. That is such a 723 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: funny comment to make. But I do like that. I 724 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: do like the idea behind this, Like where do you 725 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: see yourself? Because you are such a planner, Where do 726 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: you see yourself because you just launch this new podcast, 727 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: Like do you see this going a certain direction? Like 728 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: where do you see yourself going career wise personally in 729 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: the next five years? Or do you have dreams? Well, 730 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: I think that's no dreams. Nope, I've decided to not 731 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: dream anymore. Part of those, I have some vision board goals, 732 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: but I did have for many years at when I 733 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: left the Vampire Diaries, Um, I did have an idea 734 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: of what I thought my life was supposed to look like. 735 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, so here I am. Now 736 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm entering my thirties. I'm going to do this, I'm 737 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, and then and 738 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna take a break in them and do this, 739 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 1: and then there's the rest of my life. And when 740 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: life changes and you realize that you can't really plan 741 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: everything and it doesn't matter how many times you write 742 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: it down on the calendar, like life has its own 743 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: plans sometimes, and um, I just really had to rethink 744 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: about why I felt it's so necessary to have an 745 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: idea of what it was supposed to look like. And 746 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: I had these blinders on and I didn't have that 747 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: when I was younger. I I looking back, I didn't. 748 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: I had like general goals that I was always was 749 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: working towards something. But I was still listening for those 750 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: little opportunities and knew that sometimes you know, it's like 751 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: instead of going through the front door, sometimes you go 752 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: through the side door, or you go through the window. 753 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: And I just had not been really doing that for 754 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: a period of time. I was just so focused on 755 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: it had to be a certain way of the trajectory 756 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,959 Speaker 1: of my career. Um. And so now I'm much more 757 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: open to see, you know, what else is out there. 758 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: And I really I don't know. I love being on 759 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: a set. I love working in television. Television is my 760 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 1: like happy place. I feel very confused on a movie. 761 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: I've not done very many of them, but I'm just like, 762 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: why are we only here for like a couple of 763 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: weeks or a couple of months. This doesn't make sense. 764 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: We're all supposed to know each other for years. Um, 765 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: and I I got so spoiled on the Vampire Diaries. 766 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 1: You don't usually get a run like that, so um, 767 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: I really don't know. Um. I also for a while. 768 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you guys will appreciate this because I was 769 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: just was like Ellen Pompeio, she's got the dream, and 770 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: then that's what I'm gonna do, replicate her career. I'm 771 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: gonna turn thirty three years old and I'm going to 772 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: be on a show and I'm gonna be there for 773 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: like eighteen years and then that's it. And then I'm 774 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: just gonna be happy and making money and like, I 775 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 1: got my babies and I can just take them to school, 776 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: go work, and then that's the life. Um. And then 777 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: when I hit thirty three thirty four and that didn't happen, 778 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I guess it's over. I have 779 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: failed and I will never ever achieve Ellen Pompeio's dream, 780 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: which had become my. And it is so silly to 781 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: put a time stamp on what happens in life, and 782 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: especially I think for anyone that was watching Award shows lately, 783 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: it's so fun to see all of these artists and 784 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: performers who are up there winning awards, going angle. This 785 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: is hilarious. I thought my career was over thirty years ago, 786 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: and so there is no one way that it's supposed 787 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: to look um right now. I'm just very I'm kind 788 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: of I'm here. I'm showing up and interested to see 789 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: like what windows and indoors and and you know a 790 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: little pockets are open um to kind of that. That's 791 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: as that's as good as I have planned right now, 792 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: which is for me actually a really positive thing. Yeah, 793 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: it's interesting that you say that, because I feel like 794 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: I've been some of that vision boards. I do it 795 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: every single year, and I used to I was always 796 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 1: attached to the outcome. It was always I was attached 797 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: to every single outcome, and when those things didn't happen 798 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: when I thought they were supposed to happen, it was 799 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: just like heartbreak after heartbreak after heartbreak. And so what 800 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: I realized, it's like it's having vision and having passion. 801 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: Having purpose is one thing, but like attaching it to 802 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: a specific time online is where things get. You know, 803 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: you're attaching an outcome that you don't know when that's 804 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: going to happen. So it's like I've had to learn 805 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: this like fine balance of having these goals and having 806 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: vision and passion and purpose and drive, but also letting 807 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 1: life just kind of unfold in its own timing, which 808 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: is very difficult for me, but you know, working through it, 809 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: and it's so much more fun when that happens. But 810 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm the same way like I. But it when when 811 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: when when all of a sudden you go, wow, I 812 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: can't believe this is how it came together, but it did, 813 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: and it actually feels fantastic, and I didn't like it 814 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 1: when it does reveal itself. I mean even just Oprey 815 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: Plaza hosting SML ending it with like dreams come true. 816 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's beautiful and you never know 817 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: how it's going to happen. Um. And and also sometimes 818 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: dreams change and it's okay too. I Mean, I grew 819 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: up wanting to be a pop star and that is 820 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: so far from what I ever want to do at 821 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 1: this point, So I you know, dreams change and evolve 822 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: as well, and there's room for that. Um. What about 823 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: writing that seems to be like a passion? Is that 824 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: something you'd ever wanted to be a career? Is that 825 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: one of those things that you hold is like a 826 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: hobby and something that's an escape. It's it's funny. I 827 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: I love writers like I love them like I just 828 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: think that they're so cool, like instead of I would 829 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: rather be at a table full of writers and screenwriters 830 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: than at a table full of actors like that would 831 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 1: it's just more I don't know, I really like listening 832 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: to those conversations. And I'm not to like sound small 833 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: or anything. I just, Um, I have a lot of 834 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: friends who are writers, and I'm just in awe of them. 835 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 1: So it's really been hard for me to ever consider 836 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: myself any sort of or to be a writer. But 837 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: I I don't know that that I would absolutely be 838 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: open to maybe one day. Well, you're good at it. 839 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: As a listener of the Super of a Super Blue podcast, 840 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: you are good at it. So if you could just 841 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: even like compile all those things that you really like 842 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,439 Speaker 1: the audio, you could do like, um, what are those 843 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 1: call maps? Like the call map where you like read? 844 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: Like reading? I used the sleep the Sleep stories. I mean, 845 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't always work, but I've tried. I know it 846 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: works like half of the time. You're like when I 847 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 1: take a melatonin and other things, it works great. I know, 848 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: it's funny. There's I've been I've been like, I've been trouble. 849 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: I've had trouble sleeping, and so I've been binge watching 850 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: shows and so I rebene watched Ship's Creek and then 851 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: I've been been watching Outlander because I never watched it. 852 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: But I went to Scotland last fall by myself for 853 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: like a solo woman like I did like a solo 854 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 1: trip and road trip through Scotland to go fly fishing 855 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: and golfing as one lady does. And so I was 856 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: driving and all the places I ended up like all 857 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: my guides and everyone was like, so you're here because 858 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: of Outlander and I was like, nope, don't know. I 859 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: don't know. No, I'm not. But you're a woman and 860 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: you're in Scotland alone, so obviously you love Outlander. And 861 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: I had no idea. But so I started watching that 862 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: um at night like when I'm kind of falling to sleep, 863 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: and one of the people from the show just did 864 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: asleep story, like it helps me fall asleep, funny Scottish, 865 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: like the Scottish like accent right now is helping me. Like, 866 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: so maybe you can try that. Highly recommend just maybe 867 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: put on like a Scottish audio book. Oay, something about 868 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: the cadence in which like the Scottish accent is spoken. 869 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: It's just very relaxing. I'll try that. We watched it. 870 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: We watch Friends at night, Haley like normally I fall asleep, 871 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 1: but Hailey watches like we It's always on when she 872 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: was ready to go to sleep. Maybe if I had 873 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: like a calm with like Jennifer Aniston, I fall asleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 874 00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if Monica would relax me, but or 875 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: Ross about I would love a ross one. Well I am. 876 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: I just like want everything that you want for yourself, 877 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: for you, because I really think that you're such an 878 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 1: incredible person and I want you to once you're super 879 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: bloom happens, I want it to be everything that you 880 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: hope for and dream for. So me too, I can't 881 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: wait to see your super blooming. Oh yeah, how can 882 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: you wait to see it? And asking my intagram can 883 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 1: wait to see the scientific phenomenon that only happens after 884 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: a lot of rain is pounding on the soil and 885 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: then something that happens and then something beautiful comes out 886 00:47:53,640 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 1: of it. Yes, we're ready to see that you guys 887 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: are both pervs. Herberts. I wasn't going there until she 888 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: went there, and then I've been watching too much Outlander. 889 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: That's what happens show. It's not it's a very historical show. 890 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: It's a lot of history that I wasn't aware of 891 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: mixed in with PERV seeing super bloom of people. Do 892 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: I need to watch that show? It's very good and 893 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: it's very good, like not a relaxing show though, Like, 894 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: isn't it kind of intense? Yeah, so that's interesting that 895 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: you're but that's where I'm operating. That's how I relaxed. 896 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 1: I need to see other people living in chaos to relax. Yes, 897 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: that there might be something there to that. Yeah, it's 898 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: like Housewives and Outlander kills me out house stressed. I 899 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: feel like last night Potomac watching I was like, yes, 900 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: they're also upset and stress out. I feel so much 901 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: better now. Oh that's so interesting because I watched that 902 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: show when I get major anxiety, like, I can't watch it. 903 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: Maybe your life's too calm right now, so you're not 904 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: relaxed by other people. It's not very calm. I wouldn't 905 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: describe it as calm, and the slightest, but OK, well, 906 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: it was so wonderful seeing you and talking with you 907 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: and having you back on scrubbing in. We love you 908 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: and are fans of you. Fans for everybody to check 909 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: out your podcast, a super bloom podcast. Everybody goes show 910 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: cand to some love, tell her your scrubber sender all 911 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: the the scrubber love and encouragement vibes. For sure, You'll 912 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: always provide um. Where can people follow you and know 913 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: about you and watch it? Do you have TikTok? I do? 914 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: I need to get back on it. I like was 915 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 1: like coming in strong for a minute because apparently my 916 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: voice went like viral for some like not my voice, 917 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: well my voice technically, but Caroline, remember the burn it? 918 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: The can' like, um burn it? Burn it? Did? I 919 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: say stand there and looks stupid? So I said burn it. Wait, 920 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: let's do that again. Maybe our podcast can go viral. 921 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: We need it here here first re viral moment it 922 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: goes I don't know, god, burn it? Did I say 923 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 1: stand there and looks stupid? No, I said burn it 924 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 1: something like that. But I had someone helping me with 925 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: TikTok because I had to literally hire someone because I 926 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: didn't understand the app because I'm don't. My brain doesn't 927 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: work like that, and and she was like, you have 928 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: to do it, and I was like, this is so funny. 929 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: It's from the show. I think was it Catherine who 930 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:49,760 Speaker 1: did it? She's like, no, it's your voice. I'm like, oh, 931 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: yeah it was. And then I was in New York 932 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 1: and I'd like the a very like youth people like 933 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: you're just young people being like you're you're the girl 934 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: from TikTok. And I was just like, yeah, kids, I'm 935 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: here and you're like all that hard work to be 936 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: a girlfriend TikTok. That is so funny. I will say, 937 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, Haley had an episode. I don't she had 938 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: an episode on Van Pard. She died quickly, but she 939 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: always said you were so kind to her. She was awesome. 940 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,720 Speaker 1: I definitely remember, Yeah, she was awesome with the angel vibes. 941 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: That's just you know, how to fly. Just wow, that 942 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: was exciting hearing you do that on here. Honestly, and 943 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: like on it it is funny. TikTok is funny in 944 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: the sense that it'll pick the most random thing that 945 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: has no like significance to it. I was going to 946 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 1: totally miss that trend that makes sense to me, or 947 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: I too am not so good on the TikTok, but 948 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying well. I'm gonna be working with the team 949 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 1: again in a few weeks, so then the TikTok's will 950 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: be rolling again. If I don't know how to point 951 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: at the words and make them disappear, so one day 952 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,919 Speaker 1: I'll figure that out. Oh yeah, yeah, I can. Any 953 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 1: TikTok that like is any sort of has any type 954 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 1: of element outside of a video. Becca has to do 955 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: it for me. Yeah, I'm decent um, But where can 956 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,399 Speaker 1: people follow you on the TikTok sorry TikTok? I think 957 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: on it's Candice King on TikTok Um we will and 958 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: then on Instagram I'm at Candice King and I also 959 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: have at a super Bloom pod and a super Boom 960 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: A Super Bloom podcast comes out every Thursday, and I've 961 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: also just started a second um episode each week that's 962 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: coming out on Monday's and it's called like cold Brew 963 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,919 Speaker 1: Caffeinated Conversations. I'm still coming up with the name. I'm 964 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: just very I'm answering questions and talking about pop culture 965 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: stuff while drinking an obscene amount of cold brew, which 966 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: is how I usually super my day. Love that we 967 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,919 Speaker 1: love it to to podcasts a week situation. We love 968 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 1: you so much, We love you so much for having me. Yeah,