1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: Please. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back on Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. This 4 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt. A 5 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago we put together are Steelers Top 6 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: four picks, as the Steelers will do, they will uh 7 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: for for people who aren't regular listeners. The Steelers typically 8 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: wherever they're picking at, if it's fifteen, they'll come up 9 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: with fifteen guys, If it's eighteen, they'll be eighteen, they'll 10 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: come up with twenty four guys that they would take 11 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: at pick. Yeah, you need to have that order in 12 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: case if by chance the three go that you don't 13 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: want to go. Who's if you can't get out? You 14 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: know you're you're sitting there at let's say fifteen, and 15 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: seven of your top fifteen guys are still available. Somebody 16 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: gets on the phone and say, hey, you want to 17 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: move back three spots. Well, yeah, we can still get 18 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: one of our top fifteen. We'll do ahead and do that, 19 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: and there's probably tier breaks there, you know what I mean. 20 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: But if one of those guys is available, that you really, 21 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we got him. You know, he's our 22 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: tenth best guy, and he's still available here at twenty four. 23 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: We gotta take him, you know. I think it's just 24 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: a good exercise too, and maybe even listeners would want 25 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: to do it. Is put yourself in Kevin Colbert, choose 26 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: and rank this class from one to twenty four. I mean, 27 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: if worst case or you have to make a pick 28 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: atwenty four and your favorite twenty three guys are there, 29 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: who's it gonna be? I mean, and you know, some positions. 30 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: I know the Steelers aren't involved in, but if Chase 31 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: Young were in this draft, Chase Young falls, he'd be there. 32 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: You'd figure out what to do with them. You know. 33 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: If Aaron Donald's there, yeah, you'll figure out what to 34 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: do with them. I mean, elite prospects have to be included, 35 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: and some of that's moot. I mean, having Trevor Lawrence 36 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: on this list, he's not going to be available, but 37 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: he takes away from one of you. But until if 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: he were, you would take it, of course, of course, 39 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: and you don't have to fight over one versus two 40 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: versus three. But he might not be you know, I 41 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: know we looked at this a little bit differently. You 42 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: stacked your quarterbacks one through four and you put them 43 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: at the top. But to me, you know, if I'm 44 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: looking at this the way I ranked him, well, there's 45 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: some quarterbacks I would take position players ahead of them 46 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: because I don't have the quarterbacks rated nearly as high. 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: I just think the value of the position is so 48 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 1: monstrous that if Justin Fields would happen to be there, 49 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm taking them super fast. I mean again, it's such 50 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: a mood point because it's just not going to have 51 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: long gone. I mean, we could talk about mac Jones. 52 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: I think he's going third overall. Um, it's just there. 53 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: There is a quarterback problem on the horizon. If I 54 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: can nip it in the bud with a star before 55 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: then great, But you're not going to write it's just 56 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: not going to happen. So Number one, we both had 57 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, no surprise there, no uh. Number two you 58 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: had Justin Fields. I had pay Sewell, understandable. I mean again, 59 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: neither one's going to be it's just not going to 60 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: be there. I think Fields is clearly the second quarterback. 61 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: I think so too. And I put out my quarterback 62 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: rankings and like you know again, we both have a 63 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: lot of respect for Daniel Jeremiah and he hasn't as 64 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: his number four most seemed to or yeah, and he 65 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: might go fifth. That Mac Jones really goes third, Yeah, 66 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I think, I mean, you send 67 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: me something today on Spark Scores and all that stuff. 68 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: And he's again he's he's Lamar Jackson, but he's a 69 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: better thrower and he's a better and I'm much better 70 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: thrower than MT could be. I don't know. I mean, 71 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: if I was in charge of the Niners and I 72 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: make that move, it's for fields, But I don't think 73 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: that's the case. Uh. At three, I had Kyle Pitts. 74 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: At three, you have Zack Wilson. And again, I'm just 75 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: gonna put quarterbacks is because they're worth more. He pits 76 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: to me is almost the biggest wild card. I think 77 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: him and co Woshu Cormora are the two biggest wild 78 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: cards in this draft because typically you wouldn't look at 79 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: a tight end and say, well, we gotta take him. 80 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: You know again, I got him third, um and he's 81 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: not going to go that high could because he's not 82 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: a quarterback. But if he did, I might or fifth. 83 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: If he did go third, nobody would blink an eye 84 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: because he's he's that kind of talent. I saw something 85 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: on on ESPN or NFL and the I can't remember 86 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: which one. And how do you rank him against the 87 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: wide receivers? I mean, if you were if you were 88 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: looking at things and he didn't have a A T 89 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: E T next to his name, would he be rated 90 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: higher than any of the wide receivers in this draft? 91 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: And I think you can make an argument that, yeah, 92 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean he ran four four. Yes, Okay, we haven't 93 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: talked Pitts in a while because I've really come to 94 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: the conclusion that not only is he the best non 95 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: quarterback in this draft, because they they're all they're their 96 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: own beast. It's by far. I mean, with all respect 97 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: the soul and Chase, I've never seen anyone like this guy. 98 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he is unbelievable. And we talked, well, 99 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: there's some corners we're gonna talk about J. C. Horne 100 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: and certain that's who the defense is put against him, 101 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: and he ate them alive, you know, because not you know, 102 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's amazing to me, and he's 103 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: an able blocker, but the t e distinction doesn't matter 104 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: right all. I mean, this isn't what we're talking about, 105 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: but there's a big conversation since he might get their 106 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: choice of Soul or Chase or Pits. I'd take Pitts 107 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: and draft guards and centers and stuff in the second 108 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: and third round. I think he's the most special player here, 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: maybe including Lawrence. Here's the thing that let's say, for example, 110 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: last year, Chase Claypool was asked to work out with 111 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: the tight Ends, had they put a TE next to 112 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: his name, because because his physical traits were similar similar, 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: not quite as nobody's freaky, but he ran. He ran 114 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: four fours. He you know, he he's six six four 115 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: and two thirty eight pounds, are very similar sized players. 116 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: You know if if if he had the TE next 117 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: to his name, would he be talked about as a 118 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: top ten pick last year? I mean maybe even another 119 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: example with somebody like Ingram with the Giants, who was 120 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: the first round pick, ran like a four or four flat. 121 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: Wasn't as big as pizza, No, no, no, I mean 122 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: like he was six he's like is you know, right, 123 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: with crazy long arms and a very willing blocker. I mean, 124 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: he's not bad in that regard her line up in line, 125 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: I think he's just so freaky. But your point about 126 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: laypools right, I mean, and I think the NFL is 127 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: looking at it less and less of what room you 128 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: go to, what position room you go to. And you know, 129 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: Pits is phenomenal. Um. I actually had Rashawn Slater at 130 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: four up again because of position. You had Trey Lance. Yeah, 131 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: you had quarterbacks ranked the top four. At five, I 132 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: had Micah Parsons. I think he was just had a 133 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: ridiculous workout as well in the tape matches the workout. Uh, 134 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: you have Pits, then you had school right at six. 135 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: A's six. I have Patrick Certain, you have him at seven. 136 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: So we're not far off on that. Again, that's a 137 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: pretty because I put the quarterbacks had a premium position quarterbacks. 138 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: I went pit Seul Certain, So we're not much different there. 139 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: It's it's seven. I had Fields, it's seven. You have 140 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: certained eight. You have Jamaar Chase, which is interesting because yeah, 141 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: it's not it's it's not a high need. But again, 142 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: if he's available, you take him, you take him. I mean, 143 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: I just raved about Pits, and I would take Pits 144 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: over Chase. If I'm the Dolphins, the Falcons, the Bengals 145 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: at you know, six, five, four, But again it's it's 146 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of a moot point because he's not gonna 147 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: be available for He's not getting out of the top six, 148 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: so it really doesn't matter. But if you don't ever 149 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: turn down a prospect like that at eight, I had 150 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: to Zack Wilson. At eight, you have Chase nine, I 151 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: have J C. Hornet nine, you have jac Horne about 152 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: that man coverage, corner, tough, you know, physical. The fact 153 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: that Farley has to fall a little probably bumps Horn 154 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: up a little because there's a little bit of a 155 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: position scarcity there at the top. Attitude to fit in 156 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: around here as well. Yeah, um, you know, in the 157 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: same school is to find Gilmore. They're not the same player, 158 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: but there's some trades similarities, some traits. And I mentioned 159 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: how you know he guarded pits like he's one of 160 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: the few corners at the top of draft. He would 161 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: follow everybody true number ones in the sec. At ten, 162 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: you have Parsons. Yes, at ten, I have Nause Harris. 163 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: That's higher than I could go with a running back. 164 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: But I understand, Yeah, I mean, I just think that. 165 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: You know, if I'm gonna start looking at which guy 166 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: should go where, um, you know, in need? You know, 167 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: if I'm basing this off of need, that's where I 168 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: would put him there. There aren't many guys that I 169 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: would take in this draft based on need ahead of him. Yeah, obviously, right, 170 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: I don't have a much further down. No, you're you're 171 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: right there with me. Uh ten. You you have Parsons 172 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: at eleven. You have Slater, So again, you had all 173 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: those guys, I didn't have all the quarterbacks rated ahead 174 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: of those guys. At twelve. I have Caleb Farley and 175 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: he's it is going to be one of the more 176 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: interesting guys. I saw something. The reason why I put 177 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: him at twelve apparently the procedure that he had on 178 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: his back was to fix a disk issue that that 179 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: guys get that done now and it's not that big 180 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: of a deal. So he expects to be ready for 181 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: training camp and ready for the regular season. If that's 182 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: the case, then he should be way higher on my list. Yeah. 183 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: I had him as my number one corner going into 184 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: this whole process. I bumped them down a little bit 185 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: because of that. But man, if he's available, you know 186 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: if the medicals are good, and he'll be at the 187 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: combine recheck situation and everyone will get this information if 188 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: he passes all those I have him at twenty two, 189 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: but I'm pretty much sure. Just putt a huge asterix 190 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: by him. He could go anywhere, like he could go 191 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: anywhere in the first round that nobody would blink an eye. 192 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: Like if he went right, he went eight, people are okay, 193 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: they got good medical info. Yeah they trust the info, right, Um, yeah, 194 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: I would. I don't know if I take him over Parsons. 195 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: I would take him over Slater though, who I aye? 196 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: If he was pretty clean medically, you know, I really 197 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: like him. Uh Okay. You had Jalen Waddle at twelve. 198 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: At twelve, I had Farley at thirteen. I have Javonte Williams. 199 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: I'm still a Javonte Williams fan. I still like his game. 200 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: People ask me, why why did you have not Why 201 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: do you now have Harris above Williams's all I wanted 202 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: Williams at two. I want he came into this pro 203 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: day at two and twelve pounds. Now he he did 204 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: that to make him, you know, probably get his forty 205 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: time up a little higher, which I get uh and 206 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: he ran four five five, which is fine, that's great. Um, 207 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: what's he gonna run at twenty? That's what I don't know. 208 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: I I looked at him as a two pound back. 209 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: A t N went the other way. He balked up 210 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: to fifteen and still ran a four four. I still 211 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: have Williams ahead of a t N on my over 212 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: It's again, it's not. These three running backs, to me, 213 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: are all pretty interchangeable. They're on that same tier. Yeah, 214 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: and they're the again, they're they're they're the only ones here. 215 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: That's why I have them so high on the list 216 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: because if they aren't and you pass someone, you're not 217 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: getting one in the round two. Um. And you know 218 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: this obviously, and I assume most of our listeners do, 219 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: but pro days and combines, these guys are doing whatever 220 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: they can to improve their stock. So if my biggest 221 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: weaknesses Harris didn't run, Harris didn't run, So I'm not 222 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: gonna show you that. Um. If my biggest weakness is speed, 223 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut a little weight to get faster. If 224 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: my biggest weakness is size, I'm gonna balk on a 225 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: few pounds and look good in my underwear. And that's 226 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: probably a T N S move, you know. So I'm 227 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: sure you have to talk to the coaches and and 228 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: and Williams himself to say where do you want to 229 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: play at? And the Steelers did that with levy On Bell. 230 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: You know, I levy On Bell played at pounds in college. 231 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: You know, Mike Thomas said, hey, we'd like you to 232 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: get down to two thirty range and that first year 233 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: and then he got down to thirty and like, okay, 234 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: you could keep drawing. You know, you're you're getting rid 235 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: of the weight pretty well. What do you look like 236 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: at or two twenty? And it worked out really well. 237 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: You know, what would they want Williams to play at? 238 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they'd want him to eighteen or I don't know, 239 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: because he's plenty quick enough. But this is also where 240 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: scouting comes into it. Where whoever you're North Carolina scout 241 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: is he knows that strength coach really well. In North Carolina, 242 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: they wait, they wait. Those guys are a regular basis. 243 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: What was what do you play at last? Where was 244 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: he at his best? You know, what's the most comfortable? 245 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: Where does he carry too much weight? You know, those 246 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: are things they know we don't um at thirteen. You 247 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: have Christian derrisaw after Waddle at thirteen. I had Williams 248 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: at fourteen. I have Travis a t N. I value 249 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: I value the running backs highly here. I I don't 250 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: blame you at all. I mean some of these guys 251 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: to me. Actually, my next guy in the list is 252 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Davante Smith. I didn't know what to do with Waddle 253 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: and Smith. I pushed the receivers down a little bit. 254 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: I just thought that some of the other needs and 255 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: I don't see the Steelers. Yeah, those guys, those guys 256 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: are notable. Here's the thing that I figured out in 257 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: this draft. Like those first three wide receivers, there's those three, 258 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: and then there's a then there's a gap. The wide 259 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: receiver group is deep, and you can get a lot 260 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: of these guys into the into the fourth, fifth round. 261 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: But those first three guys they're on They're on their 262 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: own tier. They are I'm a little nervous about saying 263 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: that too. And I do agree with you because last 264 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: year we said the same things about Judy Rugs and 265 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: Lamb and didn't we play off that way as a 266 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: rookie year. You know, Jefferson and Claypool and you know, 267 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: but a lot of that too, is about where did 268 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: you go? Absolutely? Absolutely, Um, I'm really high on Bateman. Yeah, 269 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: he was my number four. He's my number four, and 270 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: I think he's closer to the top three than he 271 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: is the number five. He came in a little shorter 272 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: than he was also a little lean to he was 273 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: like one nine. Again, he probably did that because he 274 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: ran in four three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's just 275 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: what do they want to show you? Um, I mean, 276 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers aren't in the Davante Smith Wattle game. It 277 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: really doesn't matter where I put them on. But I 278 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: really but they're going to go before the Steelers pick 279 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, as much I like Chase is kind 280 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: of a side conversation. There's so many good receivers to 281 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: your point that are that we're second right there in 282 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: the league. Now that our second rounders and four of 283 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: them Metcalf and Davante Adams and Michael Thomas, I'd be 284 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: a little hesitant, as much as I like Chase to 285 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: use the fourth, fifth, sixth pick in the draft for him. 286 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean, if it's Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Julio Jones, yeah, 287 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: let Pits fits into that ranch. He's like Calvin. Yeah, um, 288 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: it's fifty. Calvin Johnson was. I started this morning. Calvin 289 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: Johnson was two d and thirty seven two thirty nine pounds. 290 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: He was saw when again, when when Chase Claypool did 291 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: what he did at the Combine last year, the comp 292 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: was Calvin Johnson. He nobody had done the things that 293 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: he did at the Combine since Calvin Johnson at that 294 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: weight and size. I also heard this morning. I can't 295 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: confirm it. Pits is wingspan is the greatest in combined 296 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: history or something like that, probably for a skill player. 297 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: And I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure there's been some offensive 298 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: tackles like that, but uh, it's fifteen. You have Nauj. 299 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: Harris's fifteen. I had jam And Davis. I've been watching 300 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: a lot of tape on him. He was my kid, 301 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: he's my next, but he was next. I think he 302 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: feels a need like you if the running backs aren't 303 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: there and some of those offensive tackles aren't there. I 304 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: put him above Zavan Collins. There's there are two different animals, 305 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: but the height is the same position, The heights the 306 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: same more or less. The range is not. The range 307 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: is not in the hands and every I mean, Davis 308 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: has good Collins has good hands as well, and but 309 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: they're different. I think, you know, next to Devon Bush, 310 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: Jam and Davis could I mean, they would have the 311 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: fastest defense in the league. I don't care what everybody 312 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: else runs. Yeah, the super Bowl? Yeah, And I guess 313 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: the other name to mention there is a Woson core More. 314 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: It's right because all three of them are kind of different. 315 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: Staggered in terms of he again a wise of Core 316 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: Moore is a tough What is he? What is he? 317 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: Because I know he wait, you know, he's a guy 318 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: that I think that probably went up at his at 319 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: his calm, his pro day workout because he waited into 320 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: two twenty. He does not want to show up a 321 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: two hundred. Yeah, But the question I would have with 322 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: him is can you get higher than two twenty? I 323 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: don't think he can. Oh, I bet he's bullooned up. 324 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: I bet he drank a gallon of water before he 325 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: steps up a scale, right, you know what I mean? 326 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: So what is you know? Is he a safety? I 327 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: don't think so. No. Is he a linebacker? Maybe a 328 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: little too small? If you've got another you know, if 329 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: you've got a Devin Bush in there, who's a pretty 330 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: small linebacker. You would be really you'd be really like 331 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: you'd be really fast, really fast, but you'd be really 332 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: like your d tackles better to keep people off the 333 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: keep him off him. And that might work a little 334 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: better with Casey Hampton, you know what I mean. You 335 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: gotta protect them a little bit. So I pushed him 336 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: a little farther down than the other two. Than the 337 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: other two guys, he was twenty four for me, and 338 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: and Davis would have been twenty five. But the more 339 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: I think about it, I think your points are strong 340 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: that Davis is height and being a true linebacker probably 341 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: would put him ahead of him for yeah. Yeah, And 342 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, honestly, I think Davis could put on some easily, 343 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: put on some weight if you want, if you wanted 344 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: them at two forty, he could get to two forty 345 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: pretty easily because he's like I think he's like to 346 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: thirty four. It is it is uh pro day. So 347 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's not he's kind of a narrow waisted guy. 348 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean he's not a super I forget what they 349 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: call macro morpher or whatever your your skeleton structure man. 350 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: He can get into the backfield and he's got yeah fly. Um. 351 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: At fifteen and sixteen, you had Harrison a t n. 352 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: It's seventeen you had Greg Newsome. I Newsom a lot. 353 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: I know it's not a super sexy pick. He's from Northwestern, 354 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: but he touched them well on the tape and he's 355 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a high pick. It's seventeen. I had Tevin Jenkins, Okay, Um, 356 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: I'm not far off on him. At eighteen I had Newsom, 357 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: so we're pretty close. On the eighteen you have Javante Williams. 358 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: Nineteen you have Tevin Jenkins. So we're all in that 359 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: same neighborhood with those guys. I mean, if it came 360 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: down to crunch time and it's Williams and Jenkins on 361 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: the board, that's a tough I like Williams a little 362 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: bit better. Yeah, and I think I I think all 363 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: of these guys in the teams, our potential Steelers drest 364 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: like these are guys that they could take. Yeah, yeah, right, 365 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: this is probably the area that they're picking from. The 366 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: Wattles and Smiths aren't right. Those guys aren't gonna be there. Yeah, 367 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: I agree with you. Um. The one thing about Jenkins, 368 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: like if I'm not grading for the Steelers, if I'm 369 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: just grading for the NFL networker, you know, like DJ 370 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: and those guys do, I would have a higher grade 371 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: on him than Williams because but for the Steelers, and 372 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: I know this means less than it ever did. If 373 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to bring in the tackle, I'd prefer a 374 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: traditional left tackle type, right, you know what I mean, 375 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: because banners really are right, that's gonna play last, you know, 376 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: like the light footed past protector I would prefer for 377 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: this team. Yeah, this is this is what he is. 378 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: This is another one of those you know. Yeah, he 379 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: might even be a guard, another dancing bear right right. Yeah, 380 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: he's a little bit short armed, but I love his game. 381 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: But for the Steelers, they kind of have those guys. Yeah. Um. 382 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: At nineteen, I put a Woe Suequaramoa. Um Again, I 383 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: didn't know where to put him, and I put him 384 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: right ahead of a lot of the I get the receivers, 385 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: basically finishing out my couple of linemen and the receivers. Uh. 386 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: At nineteen, you have Jenkins. At twenty, you have Zaven Collins. 387 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: And I do think it's a conversation Collins versus Davis. 388 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: As you mentioned Collins pretty freaky. You watch his tape too, 389 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: It's like, wow, guys, oh yeah, I mean he would 390 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: not you know, flinch. They didn't hurt him either. Uh. 391 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: At twenty I have Jumar Chase obviously, sure he's right. 392 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: At twenty one, I had Elijah Vera Tucker and he's 393 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: another one though that I'm not sure he's what they need. Yeah, 394 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean they've lined up and had Kelly and Beach 395 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: and play left tackle in the past. And I was actually, 396 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: as I came out of mouth, I thought, maybe he'll 397 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: just be the undersized left tackle for the Steamers because 398 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: he has better he can do it right. He's not 399 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: the masher right tackle. Um. The fact that he can 400 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: play guard though, doesn't appeal to me in this team, 401 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: like from the right. So I'm like, okay, yeah, he's 402 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: gonna And that was somebody asked me about that. Why 403 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: do you know where do you where do you see him? 404 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: I said, well, he's gonna be one of your top five, 405 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: so you figure it out. Okay, he's one of our 406 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: top five. He's gonna be in the mix somewhere. If 407 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: I have two dudes, it can only play one position. 408 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: I'm putting them into that position. But do I prioritize that. 409 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: Probably not right. He's really good and he's going in 410 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: the first round. I don't think he'll be there when 411 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers pick Um in a way. Slater's that way too, 412 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: but it's a better version, right, yeah. Uh twenty two 413 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: Tree Lance, I think there's a you know, clear the top. 414 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: I think the top three or the top three, and 415 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: then I think Lance is number four, So I think 416 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: he's His accuracy worries me a little bit. Um. I 417 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: think he's gonna go really high. He's just much of 418 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: an unknown, right, that's the problem. But I think he's 419 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: I think there are more traits there than mac Jones has. 420 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: It's three at Davonte Smith, at Jalen Waddle. They're not 421 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna be there. Twenty two you had twenty one, you 422 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: had very Tucker. Twenty two you had Caleb Farley right, 423 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: probably going up if that news you said it's true, 424 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: or if we get some good medical reports, he's gonna go. 425 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: Then you had mac Jones at twenty three. He didn't 426 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: make behind that. I knew you weren't gonna have him 427 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: in there, and I want to put him in there, 428 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: just to bring it up. I'm not a mac Jones fan. 429 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: I would never take him at three. I've said this 430 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: over and over that the Williamson family had five Toyota 431 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: Sienas in a row. It's a wonderful minivan, very reliable. 432 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: You could, you know, throw all kinds of groceries in there. 433 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: But we didn't pay Lamborghini prices for it, which is 434 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: what you're going to do, which is ifs take him three. 435 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: They paid Bentley prices exactly right for a wonderful minivan. 436 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: It's very reliable. But if those twenty two guys were gone, 437 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: I would consider taking mac Jones for the Steelers with 438 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: only this logic in mind is I'll take my minivan 439 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: at quarterback, but I'm gonna surround him with Lamborghinis because 440 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: he's I'm gonna have the first time in a million years. 441 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: I just think the money in the quarterback room. To me. 442 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: I keep going back to my argument that if he's he's, 443 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: he and Kyle Trask flip schools. I hear you, would 444 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: they be Would we be talking about Kyle Trask in 445 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: that spot, in which case I can just if that's 446 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: what I want to do, I could take Kyle Trask 447 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: in the third round. I like Jones better, but your 448 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: arguments strong. I just think I can find that kind 449 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: of quarterback later in the draft this year, next year, 450 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: the year after special processing. In all those things, though, 451 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not he better be outstanding, better be outstanding. 452 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: But I think he can be Kirk Cousins. And if 453 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: you had Kirk Kirk Cousins was a fourth round draft pick. 454 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: I know, I know I'm saying round. He could be Jimmy, 455 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: he could be Cousins, he could be at the pro level. 456 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 1: None of those guys are first round picks. I know, 457 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: I know. But if you give me Kirk Cousins or 458 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy's a perfect example. Jimmy went to the Super Bowl 459 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: two years ago. He lost, with a lot of Ferraris around, 460 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, and they were paying Jimmy good money. Next year, 461 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: you might be able to get Jimmy Garoppolo for nothing. 462 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: Not nothing. You're gonna pay his contract, but you can 463 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: probably get for a second round pick right now. Next 464 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: next year, next year, they're probably gonna cut him. They 465 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: may keep them both this year, but next year, you know, 466 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: next year, they may say we're gonna shop Jimmy. If 467 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: we can't get rid of him, we're gonna We're gonna 468 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: cut him free. But he's not twenty two clear of 469 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: injuries and on a rookie deal for five years. But 470 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: he's also got starting experience, which is which is you 471 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: know what he is the Only reason I consider mac 472 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: Jones though, is just because if I can have five 473 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: million dollars in the quarterback room for five years, give 474 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: a take, I get it. There's there's no doubt. You 475 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: never lose Bud the prex, you never lose. There's also 476 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to use the first round 477 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: pick on the guy I want him to be special 478 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: is different than the top ten though. It is. But again, 479 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean the guys, the guys that you brought up 480 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: are we're mid round draft picks. And again, if I'm 481 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: gonna take that guy at twenty four, if it comes 482 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: to again, that's why he didn't make my list, because 483 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: if it comes down to Zaven Collins or Mac Jones, 484 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm taking Savin Collins. He's the more special player and 485 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: he helps you out more. Right now. I wanted him 486 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: in my talk twenty four just so we could have 487 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: this conversation you know it's not gonna matter, but I 488 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: didn't have Jamon Davis and I had a wose to 489 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: core more behind him. In reality, i'd probably take both 490 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: those guys ahead of them. I mean, they're dynamic, help 491 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: you now, defensive, helping now players that are gonna you know, 492 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: probably be immediate starters and and and help you win. 493 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: Um that that's why I couldn't put them him on 494 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: that list. I'm not taking you know, I'm not interested 495 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: in from the Steelers or me, but I wanted to 496 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: have a conversation. If I'm the Steelers, I'm not. You know, 497 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: these all these things that are all these mock drafts, 498 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: and even though the ones that have later picks that 499 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: have the Steelers taking a quarterback this year, it doesn't 500 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: doesn't work, It doesn't compute. You've got two young quarterbacks. 501 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: Well and Mason Rudolph's not super young anymore, but he's 502 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: still a guy that you want to get snaps to. Right, 503 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: It's different if you'd get justin Field, you got Joyne, 504 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: you had d Wayne Haskins for nothing. You at least 505 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: want to see him. You want to see him take 506 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: some you know, hey, what do we got here? If 507 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: you if you're gonna do that. And he was the 508 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: fifte pick in the draft. And I don't know that 509 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: anybody when he was the fifteenth pick in the draft 510 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: said well that they way over reach for that at all. 511 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he was a first round guy. I don't 512 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: know about you, but and maybe it's just revisionist history. 513 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: When they signed Paxton Lynch, I didn't have the optimism 514 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: of boy, I can't wait to see Lynch in the season. 515 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, I bet he doesn't. There's no chance he 516 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: works out, saying maybe true for Haskins. I mean their 517 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: their career paths are pretty similar, right, but I feel 518 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: like there's a chance Haskins has already started more games 519 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: in his career than Paxton Lynch. Everything. Actually, at least 520 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: he's seen the field at least, right, so you have 521 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: a bit of a baseline here. Okay, here's what he 522 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: can do. Now, what can he do for us in 523 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: this system? What can we make him into? I don't 524 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: know that you had that with I think Paxton Lynch 525 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 1: started five career games something along those lines. I mean, 526 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot there because he just never showed it. 527 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: And they were starting guys, you know, Denver was starting 528 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: guys ahead of him who were wider, and I'm trying 529 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: to think of some of the other the guy they 530 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: got from Chicago and just anybody, you know, anybody. Yeah, 531 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't that. Haskins career has been glowing right right right, 532 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: But I have more hope for Haskins than I did 533 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: for Lamp. So you want to see those guys get 534 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: some you know, get some work as opposed to you know, 535 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: if you take a young quarterback this year, you got 536 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: to get him all the work. And this will Mac 537 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Jones conversation isn't gonna matter, but next year we might. 538 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: Next year it a lot. Next year you're having that 539 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: conversation and there will be boring quarterback. Nobody was talking 540 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: about Joe Burrow two years ago as a as a 541 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: first round draft pick. Nobody going into this season, in 542 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: this past season was talking about Mac Jones as a 543 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: first round draft pick. Right my Mac Jones conversation again, 544 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: it's going to really carry over the next year. Nobody's 545 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: talking about Zack Wilson. Is the first round? Very true, 546 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: but it really applies to a team like Minnesota. Like 547 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: if you were the Vikings, I would consider taking Mac 548 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: Jones at fifteen or whatever. If I already knew, I 549 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: can get rid of out of, get out of Cousins deal, 550 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: get basically the same quarterback play and then a thirty 551 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: million to play with every year. You know, I think 552 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: you're a better team with keeping Stefon dig signing Tuney 553 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: and running back with act you know, Zack Jones and 554 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: Cousins or you know something along this. I mean, yeah, 555 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: because you know what Cousins ceiling is. That's the thing. 556 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: And then you're this guy has the same ceiling probably, 557 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: but he's cheap. He's cheap. You can you can around 558 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: them a little bit easily. Their problem is you mentioned 559 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: the Vikings, is that they gave guaranteed money to Cousins. Now, 560 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: even going down that road right now, you can't like 561 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: the Rams would have been better off with a Zach 562 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: Wilson than the golf contract because they they don't lose 563 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: all their studs either, you know. But interesting, And we'll 564 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: do this again before the draft. I'm sure the list 565 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: will change. I did. I did want to do this 566 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: so after most of the pro day stuff had ended, 567 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: because there are guys. Farley is the one. Farley is 568 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: a tough one. I think. I think Jayme and Davis 569 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: athletically helped himself a lot with his pro day. Um, 570 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: did you consider Davis's teammate Joseph at all the corner? 571 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: He was kind of in my can't miss list. It's 572 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: a little rich for me. Probably not in the first round, 573 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: but man, I never consider him a first rounder. I 574 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: jump all I jump all over him in a second. Yes, 575 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, and even if you see some some of 576 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: these mock draft stuff, haven't going to the third that's 577 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: all you know. Did you consider any centers? Ok? Yeah, 578 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: I had. I had the Creed uh Humphrey on that, 579 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: and he was on my previous twenty four. I bumped 580 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: him down off that. Um, Dickerson's kind of like Farley. 581 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: If I knew he was clean, i'd consider it. I 582 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: would consider it. I just don't know that in the 583 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: first round that you make that move with as deep 584 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: as I think that the center group is, I think 585 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: there's now you know, before when we were talking about, 586 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: well there's three or four centers here that you've gotta 587 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: get in, and you know you can get a guy 588 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: like a Kendrick Green or someone like that, you know, 589 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: in the third round and be you know, they've they've 590 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: played center, and they're and they're good and they're good players. Miners. Yeah, um, yes, 591 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: although my center take has changed a little, there's three 592 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: that I think have stood out a little that I 593 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: think still think there's six I could live with or 594 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: something like that that or be welcome additions to the Steelers, 595 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: But Miners Humphrey Dickerson to me are the ones I 596 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: want because I think Miners need to play him right 597 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: this minute. He's such a good athlete. Yeah, he really 598 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: tested well. He would fit in well around here, really 599 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: tested well. If you told me the Steelers have one 600 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: of those three and round two. If you think if 601 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: I if I told you the Steelers came out of 602 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: the first two, the first two rounds of the draft 603 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: with Nause, Harris and Quinn Miners, he'd be pretty happy. 604 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: And to be very honest, I think that's what's gonna happen. 605 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: The more and more I think about this draft, I 606 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: think it's gonna go running back center, best available at 607 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: that and I'll take it, and I think it'll be 608 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: one of those three centers. I think be one of 609 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: those three backs, and then you can get because of 610 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: the depth of the positions an offensive attack, one inside linebacker, cornerback, 611 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: best available. I mean, if I get those two needs 612 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: knocked out with high upside and immediate help, I'll take it. 613 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. My running game just took a big 614 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: stride forward. Yeah, you really helped your running games. Anyways, 615 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm 616 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: Dale LOLLI. You've been listening to the Drive here on 617 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. 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