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Speaker 2: All Right, everybody, this is going to be a long one.

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Speaker 2: Nick Wright and I talk about everything from Elon Musk

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Speaker 2: to travel plans, NBA, NFL our relationship. It's a long one,

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Speaker 2: but I want to start with a rant, A football

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Speaker 2: rant presented by Netflix's quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at the NFL standings before I came

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Speaker 2: on today, and when you look at the quarterback position

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Speaker 2: I think all fans are reasonable that it's hard and

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Speaker 2: And there's not a ton of pressure on the people

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Speaker 2: I also don't believe Dak and Kirk cousins. Again, most

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Speaker 2: people see them as good B plus quarterbacks. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they face like more than just week to week,

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Speaker 2: as they are viewed by a certain group, perhaps small,

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Speaker 2: And let me give you an example, justin fields. I

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Speaker 2: But at this point, I think he's a sixty to

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Speaker 2: win somewhere between nine and twelve games. Playoffs are not,

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Speaker 2: He's a Hall of Famer. They'll be better everybody gets it.

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Speaker 2: Will they be great? Probably not. But somewhere between nine

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Speaker 2: knows it, the Jets know it, and we all know it.

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Speaker 2: That's not pressure. Justin Fields is different because he shows

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Speaker 2: flashes of brilliance. This is the year that bears ownership

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Speaker 2: I feel like Justin Fields faces the most pressure in

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Speaker 2: the NFL as a quarterback. You could name anybody. Jared Goff,

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Speaker 2: He's been to a Super Bowl, he's been paid. We

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Speaker 2: He's excellent. There's no pressure in Jacksonville. He got to

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Speaker 2: the playoffs last year. But Justin Fields there is a

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Speaker 2: Fields has not exhibited that yet. And this is the year,

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Speaker 2: All right, I bring in my buddy co host First

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Speaker 2: Things for also host of What's Right with Nick Wright,

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Speaker 2: and we do this about every six weeks. We do

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Speaker 2: about forty forty five minutes, and this is kind of

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Speaker 3: I don't believe in the Jets the way some people do.

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00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 3: But you could make a case for him, the Bengals,

429
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: the Ravens case is Lamar's healthy all year. You know

430
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 3: what I mean. We already said the Jags, the Chiefs,

431
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: the Chargers. That's eight teams you could make a case for.

432
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: So it's a it's very odd the imbalance of power

433
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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, before we pivot to NBA. A social media question.

435
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 3: Good.

436
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: The user experience at Twitter has gone in to the tank.

437
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: I said, when Elon must took it over, I said,

438
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm just gonna watch it and see

439
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: what happens. Very quickly it got annoying, then violent, violent videos.

440
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: Now I'm constantly muting them ads, I'm constantly muting them.

441
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: The user experience is more toxic than it's ever been.

442
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 2: And I don't think. I don't think Elon he's obviously

443
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: a bright guy, he's a creative, but I also think

444
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: he's distracted. Threads now gets unveiled and I went on it,

445
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: my staff put me on it. I find it irritating.

446
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: When you look as a young broadcaster coming up, you've

447
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: been very I think you've used been very dynamic on

448
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: your Twitter spaces to you know, engage with people. I

449
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: find the elon Musk Twitter experience, and I try to

450
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: be fair about it, just increasingly a poor or experience.

451
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: So I'm not on it at all. Where are you where?

452
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 3: Where?

453
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: Where are you as a younger person on social media today?

454
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 3: So there's a bunch of social media stuff I'd actually

455
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: like to talk to you about. So for me, I

456
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: and it was one of it was kind of a

457
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 3: sad choice I made, but that I felt I needed

458
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 3: to do it, or it was good for me to

459
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: do it, because I do miss out on some interactions,

460
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: I miss out on maybe some ideas I wouldn't otherwise

461
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: have thought of. But I four years ago, five years ago,

462
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 3: around the time I started to have a real national profile,

463
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: just said I am never I shouldn't say never. I

464
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: am almost never looking at my mentions. I am not

465
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 3: engaging in it whatsoever. Except for if people don't know

466
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: back when the back when Twitter was you know, Musk,

467
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 3: if you were verified, you had a separate mentions tab

468
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: that would only show you tweets from other verified people.

469
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: And so what that would mean is I would if

470
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: any athletes, if any other journalists, if any other broadcasters

471
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: were engaging with what I was saying, positively or negatively.

472
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: I would see it. But and that maybe people going

473
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: to say that's elitist. I'm not listening, but it was,

474
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Speaker 3: it was, it would it was too toxic of just

475
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: I don't care how kind of you know what I

476
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: mean above it you claim to be. If if you

477
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: have thousands of strangers saying basically you suck, it's going

478
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: to get in your head somehow. And the flip side

479
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: is if you have thousands of strangers saying you're the greatest,

480
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 3: it's going to get in your head somehow. And the

481
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: things that and that you talked to Ethan Strauss about this,

482
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: the things that get the most applause on social media

483
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: are not necessarily representative of the things that are what

484
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: I what I use social media for, which is a

485
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: professional vehicle, you know what I mean. And so I

486
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: stopped looking at my mention, so like I to this day.

487
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: I just yesterday at the Yankee game, some guy came

488
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: up to me was like, man, I don't know why

489
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 3: so many people f and hate you. I think you're great,

490
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: And it was like nice of him, but I also,

491
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 3: like I was thinking, I was like Honestly, I'm I'm

492
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: blissfully unaware these days of how many people hate me

493
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: because you gotta find you you better see me in

494
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: person and tell me, and I have seen. So that's

495
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: a very long even and it's not even a full answer.

496
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 3: The reason I mentioned it, musk ripping off that verified

497
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 3: tab to mean anything was to me, very very damaging

498
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: on my ability to engage with anythng on Twitter, very damaging,

499
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: and so that to me was that's a shame. Now

500
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: then you have like, hey, sign up for blue Sky

501
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: and I got an invite code, and then it's like

502
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: sign up for spill and then yesterday it was Threads

503
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: And I'm a'll probably be a begrudging late adopter, but

504
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I got six hundred thousand followers

505
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: on Twitter. I also am blessed to have a platform

506
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: outside of social media where you want to see what

507
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: I have to say. Like I'm on television every day,

508
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: I do a podcast. I don't I don't need. It's

509
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: not my only outlet. Why do you think you and

510
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: I are some of the few that aren't like regularly

511
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: arguing with folks on the internet about random bullshit and

512
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: letting that drain, drain us the way I think a

513
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: lot of I think a lot of folks have, and

514
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: I think it's been hard for me.

515
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just don't spend a lot of

516
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: time on social I go long stretches like Friday after shows.

517
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: A lot of times. I'll just tell my social guy,

518
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: you can run it over the weekend, and I'll tweet

519
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: something funny occasionally. But I just I feel a certain

520
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: responsibility to be available to my wife, my kids, my

521
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: business partners. I just don't have time for it. And again,

522
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: I I kind of take it as a badge of honor.

523
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: Everybody hates Elon Musk, everybody hates Biden. I told my

524
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: wife this once about Barack Obama. I'm like, this beautiful family.

525
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: People were outraged he wore a tan suit. It's like

526
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: there's just people that are just just want to bitch.

527
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: And it's like, Okay, I'm so lucky to have my life,

528
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: so grateful that I have a beautiful wife and all

529
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: my kids are healthy. You know, I just I think

530
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: all of it, it's just it's a circus.

531
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: Speaking of speaking of your life, are you are you

532
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: moving again? I'm looking at your background. It looks like

533
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: you might.

534
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: It's not a the so I sold this. I sold

535
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: this my wife and I sold it.

536
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: I knew it. You hadn't even told me. I am

537
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: the old Colin Coward real estate flipper. You're always doing.

538
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 3: It is unbelievable.

539
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: You just moved in there two years ago.

540
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 3: Oh that's great. But that's like one of your wife's

541
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: favorite things, right.

542
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: No, we have a we have a you know, we

543
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: have a good business real estate, That's what I'm saying.

544
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: But one of her favorite things is doing real estate stuff.

545
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: And that's like you don't want to her. I know

546
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: she's an artist and that's her real trade, but like

547
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: that's one of the things, so can I I don't.

548
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: You don't have to reveal it on there? Are you

549
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 2: moving far from where you are? I am at a

550
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: point where I don't need to own anything in Los Angeles.

551
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to have rent a really nice place oh dope, yeah,

552
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: by the beach. That great, and just be able to

553
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: leave at any time, turn key, don't have to worry

554
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: about yard and secure.

555
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

556
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: So I just want to be as I've aged, I

557
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: just want to be nimble, and that's what I am.

558
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: I've got a ranch in Utah, and that's good.

559
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: I just saw the background. I was like, I bet

560
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: college has been in the process of selling this house.

561
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: I just knew it because when I was there, you

562
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: had read the first time I was there, you had

563
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: recently moved in. And even when you had first moved in,

564
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: you said you were like, yeah, you know, we'll probably

565
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 3: sell this for X percent more than we bought up

566
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: where we got a good deal. And I was like,

567
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 3: this guy's always making moves, always doing stuff. Meanwhile, I've

568
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: lived in New York City for seven years, haven't owned anything,

569
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: rent just rent every time.

570
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: I don't think renting's a bad thing. I mean I've

571
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: been I've had twenty six homes bought sold, you know,

572
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: in my life, and made a profit in twenty four.

573
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 2: I enjoy it. I'm very well. You know, I'm always

574
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: willing to move. I've moved. I've lived in all four

575
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: corners of the country.

576
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: When you're done working, which I know you can't even contemplate,

577
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 3: but when you are actually done, totally done, so business

578
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with it. What part of the

579
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: country do you think you'd want to if you lived.

580
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: Somewhere I can see myself always having, you know, somewhere

581
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: somewhere in California by the water.

582
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so well, I thought you might say, U Tah,

583
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 3: I love the Yeah.

584
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: We my wife and I have a ranch in Utah.

585
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Love it. We're about three months from It

586
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: takes us about a year to fifteen months to we

587
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: buy if we fix it up immediately, so it's always

588
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: you could always move it if you had to. That

589
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: means a lot to us. It's where our kids spend Christmas,

590
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: summer vacation, fourth of July, and so you know, we

591
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: pretty much own it free and clear, so that that

592
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: can stay in the family forever. I would guess I

593
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: would have something in California. I've got a little I've

594
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: got a beach front place, little condo that's adorable. My

595
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: wife during the hurricane, she found something remodeled it. In Naples, Florida.

596
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: Great Florida, great walks on the beach. But I'll take

597
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: you a place, a part of the country that I'm really,

598
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: I absolutely love and it's the Northeast. It's in that

599
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: Rhode Island.

600
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 3: I just love it so.

601
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 2: I Rhode Island is near and dear to my heart.

602
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: I have very good friends. I used to go there

603
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: every summer with my kids. Rhode Island beaches are amazing,

604
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 2: So I love Rhode Island. I've been to the Hampton's,

605
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket, a lot, Stonington. I've been to all

606
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 2: these places out east. And I will spend I would guess,

607
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: and I'm just throwing this out there. I'll spend my

608
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: summers in the Northeast, somewhere in that area, near the water.

609
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 2: And then I'll spend my winters, probably in California, near

610
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: the water, in a T shirt, flip flops, jeans and yeah.

611
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't you barely wear shoes as is.

612
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 3: You're not retired when you're at work.

613
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: So you know, I grew up in a cold water

614
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: beach in Washington State. But there is something to the

615
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: breeze and the sound of the water that to me

616
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: is a little addictive. So that's how I'll wrap it up.

617
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: Oh, it's the greatest. No, it's you know, it's it's

618
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: the greatest. Sorry, I didn't mean to sidetrack you there.

619
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 3: I was just I find it. I find it fascinating.

620
00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: So let's do let's do one NBA topic. So I

621
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: said this, and I thought today it was my lead.

622
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: I said, you see a lot of teams in the

623
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 2: NBA panic, and I thought the Knicks passing on Paul

624
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: George was the greatest Knicks sign I've seen in years.

625
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: They would have made that move ten years ago and

626
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: five years ago they panicked on Mellow. They could have

627
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: waited until the end of the year. They traded for

628
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: him in season and they gave you know, Mellow ended

629
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: up being a ten million dollar chandelier in an empty house.

630
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: And then Amari Stodemeyer. Everybody in the league knew bad

631
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: Knees Sons were trying to get rid of him. They

632
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: you know, that was New York. Ye. Paul George is

633
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: a top six two way player arguably in the league.

634
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: The Clippers would move off him, and the Knicks are like,

635
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: we like him, we're not going to do the deal

636
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: right now. And I thought, because I think the Knicks

637
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: between Brunson Randall, eleven first round picks in seven years,

638
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: and multiple moveable players like you know, like Josh hart

639
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: uh Yep, Archie Barmes, I think they're one smart move.

640
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: I think they're a good team. I think they're one

641
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: smart move. From being a very good team, and I

642
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 2: think a very good team could win the East next year.

643
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: So all all up the ante on you on good

644
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: signs for the Knicks. I'd say this is also a

645
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: good sign they're not in the Dame Sweepsticks because that

646
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: the old Knicks would be, because you know, Portland is

647
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: dying for a competitive and competing offer for Miami. The

648
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: Knicks have the draft capital, they have RJ. Barrett, whom

649
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: Portland would like young player, a wing, not a guard.

650
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: But the Knicks I think are correctly assessing we already

651
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: have a small guard. He's thirty three and going to

652
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: be super expensive. And the Knicks want to keep their

653
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: assets available for if the Hardened thing goes wrong, and

654
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: not for Harden if the Harden thing goes wrong in Philly,

655
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: and embiid wants out CIA. All those connections, and you know,

656
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 3: Mike pal Brian Winnendhorst said ten weeks ago, and it

657
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: was you know, I don't know how many people picked

658
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: up on it, but when the Knicks were in the

659
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: playoffs against the Heat and round two, Wendy said, the

660
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: New York Knicks are ninety five percent focused on Miami

661
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: right now and five percent focused on the future of

662
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 3: Giannis Antennakoompa and with the Bucks yanit. They can offer

663
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: Yannis a contract extension in September. He almost assuredly will

664
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 3: not sign it because there's no incentive for him to

665
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: sign it. He has two years left on his deal.

666
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 3: The Bucks are a very old team that is going

667
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: for it right now, as they should. But Brook Lopez

668
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: just signed a two year deal. Drew Holliday has talked

669
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: about wanting to retire when this contract's over. Chris Middleton

670
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: they just brought back, probably on a slight overpay, but

671
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 3: because they want to keep it all together. The fact

672
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 3: that no matter how this year goes for Milwaukee, it

673
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: could it could be Giannis's last year there, or if

674
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: it's not, he's a free agent in two I think

675
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 3: I think the Knicks smartly understand adding Paul George is

676
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: an improvement if he's healthy, but it doesn't get us

677
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: over the top. Adding Dane would not get us over

678
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: the top. Adding Embiid or certainly adding Yannis, or I'll

679
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: throw one more name out there. You know, if Kyrie

680
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: burns the building down enough in Dallas, Luca could want

681
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: to get out of there. You know what I mean.

682
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: I think they are trying to stay and it's like

683
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: we already have Jalen Brunson. The MAVs had this and didn't,

684
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 3: you know, didn't keep it together. That would be smart

685
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 3: because Jalen Brunson is better than I thought he was. Yeah,

686
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 3: but if he's your best player, you can't win a title. Impossible.

687
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: If he's your second best player. If the team is

688
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 3: built out properly and your best player is a superstar,

689
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: well we already saw it was. The team was even

690
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: built out that well. They made a team with They

691
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: made the Western Mferends Finals with him being the second

692
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: best guy with Luca. So I agree with you. I

693
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: think the Knick staying out of Paul George, staying out

694
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 3: of the Dame stuff is smart. I also think when

695
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 3: Dame goes to Miami, I think they become for next

696
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: year the clear cut favorites in the East. Yes, I

697
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: think Dame, Jimmy Butler, and Bam fit together so perfectly

698
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: and cover up each other's weaknesses so well, I think

699
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: they're the clear cut favorites in the East, and then

700
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens.

701
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: Out was well, I mean, listen, you've watched them get

702
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: rid of Vincent and Strus. I mean, you can see

703
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: what they're doing. And the other thing that tells you

704
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 2: that Portland and Miami are talking is how many leaks

705
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: there are from both teams. So basically they're sending the

706
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: messages out, like Portland continues to say, and leak, we

707
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: will not We're not interested in tire Tyler.

708
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: Hero somewhere else and get assets.

709
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Portland is giving their fans and their side

710
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: of the story. You've got to give us more than

711
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: Tyler Hero and picks. And you know, Miami all these

712
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 2: moves is telling you they're just clearing space. They're getting

713
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: ready for him. So I think he's going to end

714
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 2: up in Miami. And the truth is, you know, it's

715
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: when you were a young broadcaster and you were ten

716
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 2: years into your career and you're young or a Dame

717
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: is eleven years in the NBA. I think there's a

718
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 2: certain level of courage to it. But I do think everybody,

719
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 2: at some point in their professional career needs to give

720
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: themselves the best opportunity to succeed. Right, Yeah, I think

721
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: I think Dame's earned the right to be on TV

722
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: and Late May he's earned the right one.

723
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: And that the other thing about the Dame thing, this

724
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: is not current Blazer's front office fall. But you have

725
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 3: a decade of Damian Lollard and you trade first round

726
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: picks for Robert Covington, you had, you had stick, You

727
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: stick with CJ too long and then don't get the

728
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: right package for him. You you treat Nurkice like he's

729
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: the answer you trade. You made a lot that that

730
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: previous front office regimes made a lot of mistakes. Now

731
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: maybe had they done everything right, maybe they don't win.

732
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: I don't know, but he was It wasn't Lebron with

733
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: the Calves the first time around level of front office incompetence,

734
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 3: but it was pretty damn bad dad between the time

735
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: LaMarcus Aldridge left and right now that his best teammate

736
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 3: was simply a worst version of him in CJ. McCollum.

737
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: Is a terrible job that you know what I mean,

738
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 3: That's a terrible job. And that's one of the reasons

739
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: the Dame thing, to me is different than a lot

740
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: of these other trade demand trade requests. He was as

741
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: patient as anyone could have asked. He held up his

742
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 3: end as well as anyone could have expected, if not better.

743
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: He's coming off your average thirty two points per game,

744
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: and Portland just didn't. It's not that he wasn't the guy.

745
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't want to be in the small market.

746
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: I want to be He didn't have the wandering eye

747
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: the moment he got there, the way people felt with

748
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: Zion in New Orleans or ad in New Orleans. No,

749
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 3: he wanted to stay there and wanted to be there,

750
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: and they blew it. And now so I you know,

751
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: I hope he goes to Miami. I think it'll be

752
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: a great fit, and I think they can win the

753
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: damn title. Eric Spolstra, Jimmy Butler, Bam and Dame. That

754
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: team can win the damn title.

755
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: By the way, when you retire, though it's a long

756
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: way off, what will where you go.

757
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: It's very interesting. So because I kind of have a

758
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 3: two track mind on this one is so I'm thirty eight,

759
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: I uh my, my. What I tell my wife is

760
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 3: in ten years, my daughter, my youngest daughter, will be

761
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: going to college. At that point, if I don't have enough,

762
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: if I haven't put away enough money to be have

763
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: the choice to retire to where everything our whole life's

764
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: paid for. I'm about to be fifty. Then I have

765
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 3: screwed up. My goal between now and when my youngest

766
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: ghost to college is make enough money, put enough money

767
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: away that if I want to be like I'm done,

768
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: I'm allowed to be, you know what I mean, I

769
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: can be done now. My wife tells me I'll never

770
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: be done. She thinks I'll never you know, certainly not

771
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: at forty eight or forty nine. She might be right.

772
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: I don't know. But under that circumstance, what if I

773
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 3: were done and I was still young, I would do

774
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 3: one of two things. I would either go to law

775
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: school or I would travel around and play in poker tournaments.

776
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: Are two very different things, but not that different in

777
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: that I would need to do something that was intellectually challenged,

778
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: and I might you know, I've played around with the

779
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 3: idea of going to law school now like night class,

780
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: Like what if I took two classes a semester. Now

781
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: it's gonna be what I could maybe be done in

782
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: six years, you know what I mean, and then just

783
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 3: have that done. Uh, And maybe I would do that,

784
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: and maybe I will do that. I'm not sure. I

785
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: also think it's kind of bullshit that I have to

786
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: go to law school. I feel like I should be

787
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 3: able to take the bar, and if I pass it,

788
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 3: just good job. Like let me study for the bar

789
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: and take the bar and then someone will hire me. Fine,

790
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 3: but best I can tell, that's only legal in Louisiana,

791
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: and I'm not I'm sure if it's legal in Louisiana anymore.

792
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: A lot of things are illegal, a lot of things are.

793
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 3: Exactly right. So I don't know if that So that's

794
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: not a thing. I don't think. My wife, you know,

795
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 3: my wife has this store in New York City, you

796
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: know it Trintage. That's where we do the podcast. She

797
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: wants to open one in Vegas. Uh and she, you know,

798
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: she says she'd be open to living in Vegas. I

799
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: I think Vegas full time is tough. I think the

800
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 3: Vegas summers are tough, you know what I mean, like

801
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 3: the especially with the way the climate's going. I love

802
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 3: southern California. I loved it, but I was there without

803
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 3: my family. You know. That's when I was commuting Houston

804
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 3: to LA. I know where I won't live. I wouldn't

805
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't live in Texas again. With no respect to

806
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 3: the wonderful people you know, my friends there or whatever.

807
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 3: I couldn't do that again. And I don't think I'll

808
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: live in New York City forever. I love it here,

809
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: and I oddly love Broadway. I really love it. And

810
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: the restaurants are as good as everybody says. But I

811
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: am at my heart, I am a Midwestern kid, and

812
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 3: I miss having a yard. I just miss it. I

813
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: miss being able to go, you know what I mean,

814
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: put my feet in the grass in the yard. And

815
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: I've lived in Harlem for seven years now. So like I,

816
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: I don't think I and I think New York City

817
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: be a hard place to be old. Obviously that sounds

818
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: dumb because there's a lot of old people here, there's

819
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: fifteen million people, But just because of the walking in

820
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: the subway, in the weather, it's just I think it

821
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: would be hard to be an old person in the city.

822
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: So I think the answer is probably uh la. I

823
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: think that My my you know, my youngest, my youngest,

824
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 3: my middle daughter is going to I don't know if

825
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: I told you this. She's going to University of California,

826
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: Santa Cruz, so she's going to be in northern California.

827
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: My son is you know, works on the at Fox

828
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: on the Line. Yeah, and so he's in LA. So

829
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: that's probably where i'd be. But if i'm if I

830
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 3: am done before I'm fifty, then it might I might

831
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: dictate it by what my wife's career is doing. But

832
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 3: I also probably won't be done. I'll probably just, you know,

833
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: just do this for a very long time. I just

834
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know. You got your I think

835
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: you would have not gotten tired of talking about sports,

836
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 3: but I think you needed another huge challenge. And that's

837
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: one of the reasons the volume exists was because, like

838
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 3: I don't I think you're I know how hard you

839
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: work every day on your show, but you've mastered that

840
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: to a degree where it wasn't It's not like your

841
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 3: show's hard to do. It is a lot of work,

842
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: but it's not intellectually difficult for you. You know what

843
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 3: to do, so you created a new mountain to climb.

844
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: I don't know what I would do, because I'm not

845
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: a businessman. I'm not an entrepreneur. I am a gambler.

846
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: But that's also you know, I talked about putting a

847
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: way enough money to retire buying fifty. That's also a

848
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: way to lose that money. So I don't know. I

849
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: don't know what I'll do. I you know, we're coming up.

850
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 3: I got twenty eight more shows and it will be

851
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred episodes of First Things First, fifteen hundred episodisodes

852
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 3: of the TV show. And I was thinking about it

853
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 3: the other day. I was like, what sports TV shows

854
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 3: have been going on without, you know, uninterrupted longer than

855
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: mine and it's yours, undisputed PTI around the Horn, first take,

856
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: and I think that's the list.

857
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting. You just jarred a memory for me.

858
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: You know how earlier you were saying that Twitter sometimes

859
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: can be discouraging. This is a prime example of what

860
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: Twitter is. So one of the reasons I put filters in.

861
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: I didn't mind being criticized on social It bothered me

862
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: when people criticized people at the volume. I didn't like that,

863
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: oh yeah, or like you. And so when you announced

864
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: FS one announced and you announced my show's moving from

865
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 2: the morning to after Collins Show that day, I went

866
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: on to see how people would react to you. Of

867
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: one hundred tweets, ninety nine thought it would fail and

868
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: it was a terrible idea. The show is the fastest

869
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 2: growing show in sports cable, and you and I both

870
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: knew that it was the right move of the show.

871
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: You and I privately didn't discuss it. But what is

872
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: happening to your show? I largely predicted you're going to

873
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: get a stable number. You and I, our personalities are

874
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: saying we're friends. So you and I knew it was

875
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 2: going to work. The company knew it was going to work.

876
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: Twitter abject failure as a boss. As a very smart

877
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: person in my industry once said, Twitter is wrong about

878
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: everything everything but.

879
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: So but and here's the thing. I at, you know,

880
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: the most, not all, but most television shows, and by

881
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: being canceled again not all Some people it's just like, hey,

882
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 3: this is a great run, We're done, whatever it is,

883
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: but like the most successful version of our And I

884
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 3: didn't include Inside the NBA or any of those shows,

885
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: but I'm talking you know what I'm talking about the

886
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 3: daily sports talk shows. You know PTI is the longest

887
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: running and most successful, right, yeah, one day that much

888
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: show you know could get canceled. Who knows if that

889
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: were to happen, there would be an article written or

890
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 3: certainly people you know takes given about it failing it's like, well,

891
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 3: it ran for twenty eight years and had a documentary

892
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: made about it. Like I don't think that. So I

893
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: mean the fact that this thing and we've had different

894
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: iterations of it, but I've been there from day one

895
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 3: and at this point I'm the only one that's been

896
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: there from day one. We are pro again right before

897
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 3: football we will hit fifteen hundred episodes. It's pretty unbelievable,

898
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: made it through a pandemic doing the shows from our

899
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 3: home and now, you know, the me Wilds and Brew

900
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 3: have really hit a rhythm where the show is fun

901
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: and the show is consistently good, and this show I

902
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: could do. I feel like I could do it as

903
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 3: you know, how however, as long as they'll let me.

904
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 3: And you and I did talk about the fact that

905
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: the having your show lead, you know, the wor show

906
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 3: on my show be a block on the network that

907
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: that was If that didn't work, then one of us

908
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 3: like something's wrong, and what has happened is like you said,

909
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: and I don't ever, I don't understand why people in

910
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 3: our business publicize how much money they make. And I

911
00:54:54,520 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 3: don't understand why people you know, try you know, to

912
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: tout ratings regularly. I'm not saying occasionally sending out a

913
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: thank you or whatever. I just feel like you're just

914
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 3: putting a target on your back, especially the salaries thing.

915
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 3: I don't get it. I'm like, you get the ego

916
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: boost of it being written about and your friends from

917
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: high school seeing it. The downside is it almost as

918
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: surely alienates coworkers. It puts a huge target on your back.

919
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 3: It's just insane. So I don't talk about either. But

920
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: what I will say, because you reference it's true, is

921
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: it is crazy Colin that in a time of cable

922
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: contracting and cord cutting, in all of it, your show

923
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: and my show aren't up small percentages. They're up massive

924
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 3: jumps to where you're and where having some of our

925
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 3: best months ever, you know, in a time when that's

926
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 3: not true for really anybody. And I think you know,

927
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 3: I think it's a test to the network, and I

928
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 3: think it's a testament to you and I right now

929
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: and again, if you're listening to this an hour and

930
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 3: five minutes in, you like Colin and I both, so

931
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: I apologize for the self congratulatory nature of it, but

932
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 3: you and I now are both doing the exact show

933
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 3: we want to do. Yeah, and the fact that that

934
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: is working is so gratifying, you know what I mean, Like,

935
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: just like, let me do the exact show I want

936
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 3: to do, and if it doesn't work, then hey, I

937
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 3: was wrong or whatever. But at least, you know what

938
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Let's do it. And we are. And your

939
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: show's as you know, as good as it has ever been.

940
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 3: And my show is so different. I used to be

941
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 3: on at six point thirty in the morning, bald headed scowlings,

942
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: yelling at people, and now I'm bringing out goddamn trumpeters, laughing,

943
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and talking about the prince

944
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 3: of those promised. The show has changed. But it's fun

945
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 3: and it's good and yeah, so in that regard, I'll

946
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 3: do it for I'll do it for a long time.

947
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 2: The Oprah Winfrey once told Jim Gray, the sports guy

948
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 2: who told me about a month ago. He said, Jim

949
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: came out and it was very complimentary of the show,

950
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: and I said, how are things And he said, he said,

951
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: how long are you going to do that for? And

952
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: I said, oh, I like it. I just I really

953
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: enjoy Jason, I enjoy my coworkers. And he said. Oprah

954
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: once told me, if you talk for a living. Keep

955
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: talking for a living. It's the easiest job. And never

956
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: stopped talking.

957
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 3: Before we're done. Can I tell you a quick Jim

958
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 3: Gray story? At the Super Bowl, We're in the hotel

959
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: we're staying at. Jim Gray comes in, uh and I'm

960
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: sitting there with some colleagues and I saw him and

961
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 3: I introduced myself, called mister Gray and mister Gray nick wright,

962
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 3: you know, massive respect. And he was like, he's like, oh,

963
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: I know you Nick, And I was like, okay, sure, thanks,

964
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: but you know, it's the word. But then he just

965
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: engages us and starts telling stories and talking. We're going

966
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: back and forth, and so I somehow, you know, I

967
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: asked him, you know, you know, why are you still working?

968
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 3: Why do you still you know to what you because

969
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: he was about to go somewhere work and he didn't

970
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 3: tell that anecdote or whatever, but he he just you know,

971
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: gave a good, nice answer, and then he was like,

972
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: you know, I'll ask you. He was like, why do

973
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 3: you do this? And I had just talked about I

974
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 3: had I basically started to relay a story regarding Tom

975
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: Brady that I had just done on my podcast, and

976
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: Jim fucking Gray stops me mid story. I was like, oh,

977
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: you told this story last week on What's Right? And

978
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: I almost passed out, bro, And I'm like, I'm like,

979
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: first of all, I'm also scanning in my brain. I'm like,

980
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: at any point on What's Right? Did I ever take

981
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: a shot at Jim Gray? Because that show with Tom

982
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 3: Brady was not like but I was like, I was like,

983
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 3: I never said anything bad, did I? But the fact

984
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: that I was like that was such a cool moment

985
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 3: for me. I'm like, this guy who was you know

986
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: that he has been the Forrest Gump almost of so

987
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 3: many sports moments, iconic sports moments throughout all of history.

988
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 3: At some point was riding in his car listening to

989
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: the podcast that I do with my children for my

990
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: wife's store. I'm like, that's pretty cool. And he was

991
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 3: so nice. He was so nice and so cool. I'd

992
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 3: never met him before that day, but that's a legend.

993
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: That's a legend in the business.

994
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I one of the things that

995
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: I've always appreciated about Brady is, you know, his gratitude.

996
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: He gets emotional now when you talk about, you know,

997
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: his football career, and I think there's so many people

998
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: in America that work really hard and don't love their job.

999
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 2: That I every I drive to work in a good mood.

1000
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just thinking I'm going to talk sport.

1001
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: So I try to convey that to the audience that

1002
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: they have a right to criticize me because I'm not

1003
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: always good, but I think I'm I feel very, very fortunate.

1004
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 3: You know.

1005
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: I grew up in a small town, divorced parents, didn't

1006
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: have a lot, So I feel happy as hell Tonight's

1007
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: AND's not here tonight, so it's I'm currently taping this

1008
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: at five eleven, and I've got to be honest with you.

1009
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: I may just go I may go out and have

1010
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: a cocktail and a steak tonight by myself. That's weird.

1011
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 3: That is when I lived in La Can I tell

1012
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: you a great spot. It's not like a hole in

1013
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: the world restaurant, but a great alone cocktail steak spot.

1014
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 3: The the Del Frisco's Grill, which is like the quicker

1015
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: Del Frisco's, but they have the full menu on the

1016
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 3: right right on by the Santa Monica Pier. They have

1017
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: an outdoor seating area. It's only like four seats instead

1018
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 3: of high top and it is facing the pier, and

1019
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: I used to go there twice a week when I

1020
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 3: lived by myself, out there by myself, put on a podcast,

1021
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: order a seventy dollars steak and a side of spinach,

1022
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: and just sit there silently listening to something, watching people

1023
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: walk the pier. This was when I was living out

1024
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 3: there was right wind. Do you remember when Pokemon Go

1025
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 3: became super popular and everyone was it was the game

1026
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: on your phone, but you had to go like find

1027
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 3: Pokemon in the real world. But it was like but

1028
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 3: it was it was people Like it was just hordes

1029
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 3: of people, a lot of them playing Pokemon Go and

1030
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 3: walking on the Santa Monica Pier and the beach is there,

1031
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 3: and I'm just sitting there and I'm like, I understand,

1032
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: like one hundred bucks for a one person dinner by

1033
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 3: themselves is kind of silly, but also no way I

1034
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 3: could possibly enjoy ninety minutes more. No, I'm just sitting

1035
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 3: here in the corner outdoors the ocean breeze, having a

1036
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 3: great steak, having a drink. I can't recommend it strongly

1037
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 3: in listen.

1038
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm pretty I'm pretty frugal. The one thing I spend

1039
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: money on is cocktails and food. I tell my kids

1040
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: this all the time, education and experiences. I don't look

1041
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: at the check like I'm going to educate my kids.

1042
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to have good experiences. I was telling somebody

1043
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: this recently. There's no place in America that gets more criticized.

1044
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: But it's greater to live than California. I mean, no,

1045
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: we just lost scott Bao, which is a great loss

1046
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: to state, economically, devastating, devastating. But we have Mediterranean weather.

1047
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 2: We have no humidity. We don't get really lightning, we

1048
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: don't get hail, we don't get winter. I guess we

1049
01:02:55,800 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: get earthquakes. I've never lived through one. We have homeless,

1050
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 2: which major cities have. But I think Mayor Karen Bass

1051
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: has actually done a very solid job on that. It

1052
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 2: doesn't feel quite as intense as it was before Karen

1053
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: Bass took over the new mayor. Our crime is overstated.

1054
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: If you look at crimes, crime is overstated.

1055
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. The there are the la You know, what

1056
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 3: is one of the safest places big cities in the world,

1057
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: New York City. No one believes you, but it's true.

1058
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 3: It's now like where I'm from, Kansas City, wildly, Kansas

1059
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: City more dangerous than Chicago, you know what I mean,

1060
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: Like the cities that the crime stats, that people get

1061
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 3: banged over, that all because people don't understand that you

1062
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: have to do everything per per capita. You can't be like,

1063
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 3: well there were this many murders, Well were there twelve

1064
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 3: million people there or one point two million? Because it

1065
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 3: matters and the listen you said. The homelessness that I

1066
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: this is you know, a separate discussion for separate day.

1067
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 3: I think you know, it is a blight on the

1068
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 3: American consciousness that we are seemingly just opting in to

1069
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 3: every major city having a good percentage of its population

1070
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 3: being homeless. That we've just like, ah, housing is n't affordable,

1071
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 3: and we're not going to give people mental health care,

1072
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 3: and we're not going to give people adequate drug treatment.

1073
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 3: So there's gonna be people on the street. But those people,

1074
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: in my opinion, should be angry at those three things.

1075
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 3: Instead they will they are willfully blind to the causes

1076
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: of it, and then just fucking angry that the people exist.

1077
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: They're like, why these people somewhere It's like, well, there's

1078
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: nowhere for anyone to go, and no one can afford

1079
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 3: a house. So that's not an indictment on any of

1080
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: these cities in my opinion. That that and I understand.

1081
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 3: I was in LA and I saw there was like

1082
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 3: a camp. But if you don't affordable housing and you

1083
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 3: don't have healthcare or drug treatment, p people are going

1084
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 3: to have to be somewhere. So I if Las sucked

1085
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 3: and New York sucked, it's not cheap to live in

1086
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 3: either place, there wouldn't be millions of people here. People

1087
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 3: love it, you know what I mean. There's a lot

1088
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 3: of I understand they're like, oh my god, it's so cheap.

1089
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to be an elitist again, I'm

1090
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: from Missouri. They're like, the cost of living in South

1091
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 3: Dakota is cheap. Lands available, you can go. Like people

1092
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: seem to like California quite a bit, listen for a

1093
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 3: lot of reasons.

1094
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 2: I love Chicago. I never feel unsafe. My wife and

1095
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: I go regularly. It's my favorite big city in the country.

1096
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: Las two. I like New York, but Chicago's kind of

1097
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 2: a cleaner version, easier to navigate. I love big cities,

1098
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 2: not all of them, but I don't love all small towns.

1099
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 2: I tend to be just my I like to be

1100
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: by the beach, in the mountains or a city. Right

1101
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: that's you think yourself, well, that's everywhere, but it's not

1102
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: I like to be I like the mountains because I

1103
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: love to ski and I like to hike. I like

1104
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 2: the water because I like the breeze and I grew

1105
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: up with it. And I like cities, and so a

1106
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 2: lot of the country flat without water or mountains is

1107
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: just not appealing to me. That's nothing against the place.

1108
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 3: Why you've never been to Kansas City. It's the only

1109
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: big city in the world you've never been to. That's why.

1110
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: But no city or state gets criticized by Los Angeles

1111
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: like Los Angeles. And I think some of it is

1112
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 2: we tend to lean more left than the rest of

1113
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: the country. Another thing is it's a lot of beautiful people.

1114
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 2: But if the entertainment business was in Cleveland, there'd be

1115
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 2: more beautiful people in Cleveland. It is part of what

1116
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: our economy is based on. And the other thing is

1117
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: people hate what they don't have or they're threatened by.

1118
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: And the truth is it's the biggest economy in the country.

1119
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 2: We've got better weather than everybody else. We're not perfect.

1120
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: Our traffic is hard. Taxes like they are in New

1121
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 2: York and Chicago, these major municipalities. It's very expensive. You've got,

1122
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: you know, education budgets, road budgets, like they're expensive cities.

1123
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: But I do think it's interesting. People often get very

1124
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 2: defensive in America. If I went on the air and

1125
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 2: ripped Kansas City, it would make the newspapers, it would trends. Yeah,

1126
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: people in Arkansas and Alabama ripped California, and nobody cares here.

1127
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 3: Well, so this is and then we can we can

1128
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 3: go because now we're going to I'm gonna start because

1129
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 3: I can't help myself waiting into politics. It I find it.

1130
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 3: I'm not actually offended, but I find it offensive that

1131
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 3: because people know I lean pretty far left, and I

1132
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 3: hate that Democrats have just decided we are going to

1133
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 3: allow the other side to call giant swaths of our

1134
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 3: country not real America, because if it was you you here,

1135
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 3: some conservative politicians talk about these major cities with millions

1136
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 3: of people and say, huh, you know, I was in

1137
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 3: la or I was in New York. It's nice to

1138
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 3: be back in real America. It's nice to be back

1139
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 3: with real Americans. When can you imagine. Can you imagine

1140
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: if someone running for a national office that was a

1141
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,560
Speaker 3: Democrat was like, Man, I was just in Biloxi, Mississippi,

1142
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 3: and let me tell you, it's nice to be back

1143
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 3: to a civilization supposed to that hell hole I was.

1144
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 3: They'd be like, it's nice to be back with real

1145
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 3: Americans here as opposed to that, but it wouldn't allow it.

1146
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 3: I there is the You are one hundred percent correct

1147
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 3: that it has just become commonplace to just be like

1148
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 3: San Francisco, La New York sucks. Don't know why anyone

1149
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 3: lived there. Oddly, it's wildly expensive, way densely populated people.

1150
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 3: You put a house up for a sale and you

1151
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 3: get three over three percent over asking the first day.

1152
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on there, but I that

1153
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 3: so frustrates me, man, And it really frustrates me because

1154
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 3: they act like any of these places, every place you

1155
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 3: go to is the most it is. As far as

1156
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 3: like political affiliation is like sixty five thirty five, There

1157
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 3: is no place in the way you're gonna find in

1158
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 3: the country that's ninety ten or anything like that. Everything

1159
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 3: is people make you know, Republicans and Democrats, gay and

1160
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 3: straight black woy, everybody mix together, and yeah, I don't

1161
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 3: like the way people take shots at Chicago and New

1162
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 3: York and they're major cities. Listen, anywhere where you have

1163
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 3: major cities and a lot of people and a lot

1164
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 3: of industry and a lot of money, you're gonna have

1165
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 3: the good and the bad that comes with That's just

1166
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 3: how the world works.

1167
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: Chicago, excuse my language, is a great fucking time. My

1168
01:09:55,400 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: wife and I eat party friends up all night. I

1169
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 2: have never had a bad night in Chicago. It is

1170
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 2: so much fun. You know what's not fun? Ten o'clock crickets.

1171
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 2: Chicago is a late night big city broad shoulders, water noise.

1172
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: I mean, they're my favorite bar. Remember the one I

1173
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 2: gave you you were going to Chicago when I told

1174
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 2: your wife, did you go?

1175
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, Yes, Oh I went. I forgot to tell you.

1176
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 3: I went to a different place as well. And at

1177
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 3: the end of the meal, it might have been the

1178
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 3: place you told me. At the end of the meal,

1179
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 3: the waitress said to me, she was like, I didn't

1180
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 3: want to bother you until everything was done. She was like,

1181
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 3: but the way she put it was very nice. She's like,

1182
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: I know who you are. I'm like, Okay, thank you.

1183
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 3: She was like Colin Coward was here two weeks ago

1184
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 3: and it was I was like, that is unbelievable. She's like,

1185
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 3: I served him, now I'm serving you. So I think

1186
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 3: it was I forget the name of the place. Was

1187
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 3: the place you recommended? I went there with Danny with

1188
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 3: Danny Parkins.

1189
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: Who you It's my favorite bar in the country. I

1190
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 2: think it's Maple and ash.

1191
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

1192
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: I have met the most interesting people there. I think

1193
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 2: they're going to open one up in Los Angeles. Chicago.

1194
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 3: It is.

1195
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 2: I love it. I can. I got introduced to it

1196
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 2: late Vancouver, BC, LA, and Chicago. Those are my cities.

1197
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 3: So Vancouver's I've never been, but I've heard it's unbelievable.

1198
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 3: The one place that I would add that I love.

1199
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 3: My wife just got back from his New Orleans. Yeah,

1200
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 3: and that just because the culture and the food and

1201
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 3: it's another place with beautiful people. But it's a very

1202
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 3: New Orleans more so than any other city in the country.

1203
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 3: Feels like you're out of the country, you know what

1204
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 3: I mean. There's it almost feels like international place. But

1205
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 3: all these places have their issues, but there's I don't know,

1206
01:11:55,600 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 3: you you got the your defense of Chicago kind of

1207
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 3: flippantly on your show. Yeah, a few months ago made

1208
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 3: like that was a big story in Chicago when j

1209
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 3: Mack was like, Oh, that place sucks, and you were like,

1210
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 3: I love it there. I go there all the time.

1211
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 3: That was a big that was on Danny's Danny's radio

1212
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 3: show in Chicago, a big topic. They it was a

1213
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 3: it was a big thing. But yeah, it gets it's

1214
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 3: used as a cudgel for I think bad actors. But yeah,

1215
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 3: the I don't know that I could live there because

1216
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 3: the winters are so harsh. But in the spring of

1217
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 3: the summer in Lake Michigan pretty unbelievable. It's like having

1218
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 3: an ocean thing so big, it's pretty great.

1219
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,879
Speaker 2: It's also got the best one of the best looking

1220
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 2: people under forty five in America because all it's the

1221
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: one place in the Midwest to get rich largely, so

1222
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: the best looking young men, the most confident men and

1223
01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: women from all those great universities people. Yes, they all

1224
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 2: go to Chicago and you go out on a Friday

1225
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: night and you're like, this is a good looking town.

1226
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 2: There are good looking people everywhere in Chicago.

1227
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:11,799
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

1228
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 2: All right, buddy.

1229
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 3: All right, hey, I love you, it's great to see you.

1230
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 3: You Where are you if you don't mind me asking?

1231
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 3: And then we'll go Where are you going this summer?

1232
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 3: I heard you mentioned you're going on a cruise.

1233
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to Rhode Island for ten days at the

1234
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: end of August, and then I'm going on a boat

1235
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 2: trip with two other couples in a couple of weeks

1236
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 2: through the Desolation Islands in Vancouver, BC, which is the

1237
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: warmest water north of Mexico. It's an amazing oh six

1238
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 2: stay cruise.

1239
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 3: That sounds awesome. I so I taking my wife and

1240
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 3: kids to the Caribbean in a week and a half

1241
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 3: for the family trip. And then a thing my wife

1242
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 3: and I have started doing is when we get our

1243
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 3: week off in August, we take her grandparents, who are

1244
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 3: the most mobile and with it and awesome ninety and

1245
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 3: ninety three year olds in the world. We took them, well,

1246
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 3: ninety ninety two, but the granddad turns ninety three here

1247
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 3: in a few weeks pre pandemic, we took them to Barcelona,

1248
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 3: went everywhere the four of us post pandemic. Last summer

1249
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 3: we took them to Rome and this year the four

1250
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 3: of us are flying to Amsterdam, going Amsterdam to Germany

1251
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 3: to Belgium to Paris. Driving it me my wife and

1252
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 3: her ninety plus year old nonagenarian grandparents, who are our

1253
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,799
Speaker 3: best friends. They're the coolest people, so we've just decided

1254
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 3: as long as they can do it, there are travel partners.

1255
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 3: They're the only couple that likes us enough to travel

1256
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 3: with us, so they're the people we travel with. Yeah,

1257
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 3: so that'll be great, all right. Hopefully I'll be in

1258
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 3: l a uh and we can get together when you're there,

1259
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 3: all right, buddy, great talking all right, talk to you later,

1260
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 3: see you

1261
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:22,919
Speaker 2: H The volume