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Speaker 1: How we do? Jesse?
Speaker 5: Practice?
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Speaker 1: It's funny because you guys have more podcasts than everybody else.
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Speaker 5: You know, we have more podcasts than everybody.
Speaker 1: Literally, they're more Hanging with the Boys podcast, We're all
Speaker 1: they're like twenty that last there's only two more So
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Speaker 5: Wow them? So how do let's go around? By the way,
Speaker 5: let's enter. Everybody kind of entered. Everybody should know me
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Speaker 8: I'm Jazz Money from Girls Talk, Boys Talk Okay, anything
Speaker 8: else I should share? No, this is my first season
Speaker 8: doing this with the Dallas Cowboys. I've had my own
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Speaker 5: Oh nice, So I would say yes, normally, but the
Speaker 5: last year we had these, I tried to get to
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Speaker 5: So yeah, all right, let's talk some football.
Speaker 1: Let's beef man, Jazz.
Speaker 5: Let's start with you. We're going into the bye week.
Speaker 5: What were your expectations going into the season, Where are
Speaker 5: they now and where do you think this team is
Speaker 5: going to end up at the end of the year.
Speaker 6: Oh lord, where it started, where it's going.
Speaker 8: With my expectations coming into the season, I wanted to
Speaker 8: see what Zim was going to do with the defense.
Speaker 8: With the reputation that he had for being like a
Speaker 8: no nonsense guy. I wanted to see how that would
Speaker 8: pair with what honestly, like, I'm one of those people
Speaker 8: I like to go back to this is what this
Speaker 8: person said, and I was singing about Michael Parsons podcast.
Speaker 8: Now he's all like, I want to be a leader
Speaker 8: and hold people accountable, and I'm like, how's that going
Speaker 8: to work with this guy? So I was expecting to
Speaker 8: see a much like a very disciplined defense that was
Speaker 8: like really on top of their game.
Speaker 6: From the offense.
Speaker 8: I was expecting a lot more comfort with Michae McCarthy
Speaker 8: assistance their second year in a lot of the same players,
Speaker 8: and so far, it's.
Speaker 6: Honestly been unpredictable.
Speaker 8: I can't think of a single thing that's actually been
Speaker 8: consistent this entire season. So it's really hard to evaluate
Speaker 8: them on every week as a whole. That we could
Speaker 8: go back to this last game that we just saw
Speaker 8: and talk about how disappointed we are in just about
Speaker 8: everything except for Brandon Aubrey. But I definitely expected at
Speaker 8: least some consistency in some sense, especially as much as
Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy emphasizes things like complimentary football and everything that
Speaker 8: he said about, you know, wanting to work on the
Speaker 8: run game and just going into the season knowing Okay,
Speaker 8: our biggest problems for the Cowboys are their ability to
Speaker 8: stop the run and to run the ball, And I'm
Speaker 8: just like, Okay, that's like football basics, So they're going
Speaker 8: to get better at that, right And even with the inconsistencies,
Speaker 8: it feels like in that area not so much. So
Speaker 8: I'm hoping during the bye week that something happens. I
Speaker 8: know Dak said that he was going to lick at
Speaker 8: things that they could do to work on. I'm like,
Speaker 8: I don't know what that means, because you're a quarterback,
Speaker 8: not a coach last time I checked. But like I
Speaker 8: I'm trying to be optimistic and just wait and see
Speaker 8: what happens when they come back. Maybe that game was
Speaker 8: like the reality check a lot of people needed, and
Speaker 8: they'll come back as a totally different team.
Speaker 5: You could have that was great. You could have really
Speaker 5: just summed up the whole thing by saying the part
Speaker 5: where you said everything but our kicker. Whenever your kicker
Speaker 5: is the strongest thing that you can talk about, then
Speaker 5: you know the team is in complete disarray.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's like got a record now for like most
Speaker 8: consecutive field goals, and I'm like, that's not really the
Speaker 8: flex that we really want this season.
Speaker 5: When you're talking about your kicker, it is the high
Speaker 5: point of the season so far. That's not a great thing.
Speaker 1: So better than the punter, I guess.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess. So it could be a little worse
Speaker 5: or your deep snap deep say deep snapper, if he
Speaker 5: wasn't the.
Speaker 6: Kicker that he is, it would be the punter with
Speaker 6: some record.
Speaker 5: It probably would be. So what about you?
Speaker 1: No time to give trend Sek his flowers?
Speaker 7: Honestly, honestly, he needs to get that Pro Bowl node
Speaker 7: for me whatever, I was looking at the twenty twenty
Speaker 7: three season and as a holistic approach, you know, looking
Speaker 7: at and being poor Beam. He's heard the same point
Speaker 7: from me one hundred million times on the brink. This
Speaker 7: team was not tough in twenty twenty three. It lacked toughness,
Speaker 7: It lacked physicality. You saw losses against the Bills, the Cardinals,
Speaker 7: the forty nine Ers, the Packers. There was a common
Speaker 7: theme with all of them in the sense that they
Speaker 7: were getting blown off the line, they were getting thrown
Speaker 7: off rhythm and timing in the secondary, and it was
Speaker 7: just they were overmatched physically. You come into this season
Speaker 7: and honestly, I expected that to increase a little bit,
Speaker 7: like to your point, getting Mike Zimmer into the building,
Speaker 7: bringing in a guy like Eric Kendricks, you know, focusing
Speaker 7: in on what DeMarcus Lawrence had kind of said over
Speaker 7: the offseason about wanting to be a more physical team.
Speaker 7: And then we see that out on the field in
Speaker 7: these first three games against the Browns, Saints and then
Speaker 7: the Ravens, and the physicality and the toughness somehow decreased.
Speaker 7: And then you look on the offensive side of the ball. Yes,
Speaker 7: you lose Tyron Smith, but and you have two rookies
Speaker 7: starting up front, but there is no reason why in
Speaker 7: some of these games that they are being outmatched as
Speaker 7: a physically as they are.
Speaker 1: And then it all just kind of came.
Speaker 7: Crashing down against the Lions, and you saw all of
Speaker 7: those problems really just kind of supersede. And it was
Speaker 7: a microcosm of what this team has been over the
Speaker 7: course of the last two years. Not a physical football team,
Speaker 7: not tough, and in this game specifically, not disciplined, and
Speaker 7: we've seen that come about over and over and over again.
Speaker 7: I came into the season understanding that the ceiling the
Speaker 7: expectations the ceiling for this team was a lot lower
Speaker 7: than it was in twenty twenty three, but I still
Speaker 7: expected that ceiling to be they will be among the
Speaker 7: NFC contenders. They'll have a shot right at the end
Speaker 7: to make the NFC Championship. Whereas last year, I thought
Speaker 7: their ceiling was to be able to get to a
Speaker 7: Super Bowl. I think everyone believed that going into the
Speaker 7: year and even going into the playoffs. Last year, I
Speaker 7: think some people would tell you, Hey, there was a
Speaker 7: shot for this team to make the Super Bowl if
Speaker 7: things fell right, and they did fall right, they wouldn't
Speaker 7: have had to go to San Francisco until the NFC
Speaker 7: Championship game.
Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there. Looking at twenty twenty four.
Speaker 7: I thought the expectation would be, Hey, the ceiling for
Speaker 7: this team is to make an NFC Championship. I'm looking
Speaker 7: at it now, and I think the ceiling for this
Speaker 7: team is just to make the playoffs. I think right
Speaker 7: now I'm firmly looking at it. Eight to nine or
Speaker 7: nine and eight squad by the end of the.
Speaker 5: Year, in any win in their future in the playoffs,
Speaker 5: if they get there, I don't, Yeah, why I'm done.
Speaker 1: I don't believe so. I don't believe so, but you, Josh,
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair assessment. At least my expectations
Speaker 1: coming into the season. I definitely thought that we were
Speaker 1: going to struggle in the first half. I thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be a struggle getting used to Mike
Speaker 1: Zimmer's defense, especially the fact that you don't have the
Speaker 1: personnel for a Mike Zimmer defense. It wasn't a plug
Speaker 1: and play situation when it came to Mike Zimmer. These
Speaker 1: guys were gonna have to learn it on the fly.
Speaker 1: The fact that you had all of these injuries on
Speaker 1: top of that, Not to give any excuses at all,
Speaker 1: because all of the same issues that we had from
Speaker 1: last year are now exacerbated. You can't beat good teams.
Speaker 1: You're not winning. You're no longer winning at home on
Speaker 1: the road is sus You got away with a win
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, and now, at least looking at it, like
Speaker 1: Harris just said, you're not a physical football team. You're
Speaker 1: not going to grit your way to a win Pittsburgh. Notwithstanding,
Speaker 1: I don't understand how we got out of that with
Speaker 1: a win. I think they just stopped running the ball
Speaker 1: for whatever inexplicable reason, and we happen to get that win,
Speaker 1: but I expected a struggle up until the bye week.
Speaker 1: After the bye week, I was like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: a get right time. And granted we're still three and
Speaker 1: three right now, but I did not expect any of
Speaker 1: the losses in the first half of the season to
Speaker 1: be as dramatic as they've been. We've just looked horrendous
Speaker 1: at home. It's really disheartening. However, you have people coming back.
Speaker 1: You have Michael coming back, you have DeMarcus Lawrence coming back.
Speaker 1: They're not season ending injuries by any means. And you
Speaker 1: have to Ron Bland on the horizon too, who almost
Speaker 1: went in this game, and I think they sort of
Speaker 1: were like, all right, we need to take a step back.
Speaker 1: This game is not looking good on all fronts. You
Speaker 1: have one of the scariest running tandems in the league
Speaker 1: coming to a t T stadium and it's not going
Speaker 1: to be fun. We don't know how to stop the
Speaker 1: run at all, So to me, it's sort of power
Speaker 1: for the course. However, I'm did not expect the losses
Speaker 1: to be as bad as they were. I expected a
Speaker 1: losing record by this time in the season. Now, looking
Speaker 1: at the rest of the season, you look at the Falcons,
Speaker 1: you look at the Texans, the Commanders, even it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is not as downhill as I thought it was
Speaker 1: going to be. And you have some really tough teams
Speaker 1: ahead of you that are literally tough, whereas we are
Speaker 1: kind of looking for that. And I don't think there
Speaker 1: is an identity on this team. We've talked about this
Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys, of course, but what can you really
Speaker 1: point to?
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, I think there is, and it's that they're soft. Unfortunately,
Speaker 7: use that word lightly, my friend. I know, I know,
Speaker 7: and that was that was told. Unfortunately, I think that
Speaker 7: is the identity that's being created around this team.
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, I think one of your points is
Speaker 5: you could see this team before the season started being
Speaker 5: have a losing record. You're at five hundred, but you
Speaker 5: would almost I mean, you feel bad about that five hundred.
Speaker 5: It's not a positive five hundred. It's like we're very
Speaker 5: lucky to be five hundred.
Speaker 1: If the Steelers had a better game plan, they would
Speaker 1: they should have won that game. We'd looked, we genuinely
Speaker 1: looked so bad. If they would have just kept running
Speaker 1: the ball. I think that's a different story. But you
Speaker 1: know you are what your record says you are, right.
Speaker 5: Don't ask a question, No, you can't ask questions.
Speaker 8: Of course, I kind of want to dive into this
Speaker 8: word soft, like when you say that, what do you
Speaker 8: what do you mean by soft? Because I feel like
Speaker 8: that could refer to a few different things, like physically.
Speaker 8: Obviously people have been talking about the mistackles, but then
Speaker 8: I was also thinking about the fact that we all
Speaker 8: mentioned things that were happening last year that either didn't
Speaker 8: improve or got worse this year, And so it kind
Speaker 8: of makes me wonder when people are using that word,
Speaker 8: is it also like a mental thing where when they
Speaker 8: talk about how mentally tucked they are and resilient and
Speaker 8: all this work that they do over the off season
Speaker 8: for like emotional improvement and ways to mentally approach the game,
Speaker 8: is it maybe not working or not having the desired effect?
Speaker 8: What are you thinking of when you use that word?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just want to see it translated to the field.
Speaker 7: And in these games where the Cowboys have gotten in
Speaker 7: these early deficits, they have not been able to claw back.
Speaker 7: And the entire time that Mike McCarthy has been head coached,
Speaker 7: they've only overcome two double digit deficits only twice, and
Speaker 7: only once since the twenty twenty season. There was one
Speaker 7: game in the twenty twenty season where they were able
Speaker 7: to make up some ground, but it was in a
Speaker 7: game where both backup units were playing. So really, in
Speaker 7: essence one time, that speaks some mental toughness being able
Speaker 7: to overcome early deficits. And so when you look at
Speaker 7: the Detroit game and you're down ten three, seventeen to
Speaker 7: three right there in the early beginnings, Hey, I can
Speaker 7: go ahead and start writing this story, you know, because
Speaker 7: it's we haven't seen this team be able to overcome
Speaker 7: those challenges. And even in Green Bay Againstkreem Bay last year,
Speaker 7: once it got to twenty one three, we're all looking
Speaker 7: around like, dang, this is over.
Speaker 1: So I just want to see it translated.
Speaker 7: Do I think that some of these guys in the
Speaker 7: locker room are mentally and or physically tough, Absolutely, But
Speaker 7: I don't think as a unit that they are, And
Speaker 7: I think it needs to be translated. In two games,
Speaker 7: we haven't seen that happen yet.
Speaker 5: Breaking news real quick before you get back into that.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: Yes, Former Cowboy Amari Cooper has been traded to the
Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills. Reports say, thanks Chris for the breaking news.
Speaker 5: And I think Nick, that goes back several years. What
Speaker 5: it means to me is, I think of this one.
Speaker 5: I don't remember the game. It was I think three
Speaker 5: years ago and maybe four years ago now, Beam you
Speaker 5: may remember. And the backup quarterback was in I believe
Speaker 5: it was in I want to say we were playing
Speaker 5: Cleveland or someone like that, and he just got murdered.
Speaker 5: He slid and a guy came in high hit him
Speaker 5: with a forearm, and not one offensive lineman went over
Speaker 5: there to even help him up, like the man could
Speaker 5: have was Andy Dalton. Yeah it was Andy Dalton. And
Speaker 5: to me that's.
Speaker 9: Been It was the Washington game by the Washington Yeah
Speaker 9: it was Washington. Like your offensive lineman should have been
Speaker 9: over there getting fifteen yard penalties left and right, defending
Speaker 9: the even though he's the backup.
Speaker 5: Right, like taking up for your your your teammate doing.
Speaker 5: And I see some signs of dog on this team,
Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis, you know, I think Smith, I think Demarian's
Speaker 5: got some of that. But I also see some guys
Speaker 5: that are just like they almost seem like they're over it.
Speaker 5: You know. It's almost like that this is what we do.
Speaker 5: We show up and then there's no ramifications for not
Speaker 5: doing your job and missing tackles and not sticking your
Speaker 5: nose in there and things like that. And I think
Speaker 5: that's contagious. And I think when when there's no you know,
Speaker 5: when you're you're supposedly leaders. And I'm not pointing specific names,
Speaker 5: but I think it's a you get that feel as
Speaker 5: the team as a whole.
Speaker 1: It's miscrocosm of all of that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like you look at the lines and you know
Speaker 5: you're gonna get hit, even the offensive line, you're gonna
Speaker 5: get manhandled. Even when we had really good offensive lines,
Speaker 5: you didn't feel like there was Lyell he was a maler, Right,
Speaker 5: you just don't. That's what I say whenever you see
Speaker 5: and you're right. It can mean a lot of different things,
Speaker 5: but I think of just to me, it's a mentality
Speaker 5: of like, you're not going to push us around, and
Speaker 5: when you do, you know you're gonna we're gonna push back.
Speaker 5: And there's not a lot of that to me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't like to use the word soft, but
Speaker 8: like yesterday I was driving around and the word that
Speaker 8: I did think of I think would actually align with
Speaker 8: what y'all are saying, which was it I went back
Speaker 8: to win. After the Green Bay game, they were called
Speaker 8: front runners because I just kept thinking about the fact
Speaker 8: that it's like, Okay, they got down early, right, but
Speaker 8: they still had opportunities, at least in terms of time
Speaker 8: to come back and do something. Had they kind of
Speaker 8: gotten it together and been like, all right, we didn't
Speaker 8: start well, but like, let's let's rite the ship now.
Speaker 8: But it felt like they just gave up so early.
Speaker 8: I felt like, right, the ship, oh the shipka like
Speaker 8: with the sale.
Speaker 1: Yes, fix it.
Speaker 8: But it felt like they gave up so early, and
Speaker 8: like they just didn't have any answers. They had nothing
Speaker 8: to resort to on either side of the ball to
Speaker 8: say like, Okay, here's what we're gonna do now. And
Speaker 8: I watch a lot of sports, right, and there are
Speaker 8: a few tennis players that I like, Serena Williams Coco
Speaker 8: gov They both have the sing about.
Speaker 6: Them where when they start to lose sometimes.
Speaker 8: They'll get like aggressive, and you can tell that, like
Speaker 8: I don't know if they're mad at their opponent or
Speaker 8: they're mad at themselves or just mad at this, but
Speaker 8: it's like they will turn it up like there's a
Speaker 8: fire lit under them when they see that they're not
Speaker 8: playing to the level they want to play to. A
Speaker 8: lot of my favorite athletes are like that, And I
Speaker 8: guess to your point, that's just one of the things
Speaker 8: that I don't see and what you were saying about
Speaker 8: leaders like Deon Sanders, he differentiates leaders from dogs, right.
Speaker 8: He talks about leaders being an example of what you're
Speaker 8: supposed to do, when dogs being an example of what
Speaker 8: attitude you're supposed to have. And if you ever, like
Speaker 8: look at the Colorado jerseys, some of them have an
Speaker 8: L and some of them have a D. That's how
Speaker 8: he identifies who, so you can kind of tell. And
Speaker 8: so I do think that there are some dogs on
Speaker 8: the team, but none of them are like also leaders.
Speaker 8: And so at the end of the day, people follow leaders,
Speaker 8: so it's up to them to kind of set the
Speaker 8: tone if that's what they want the team to be.
Speaker 1: Like, I think so too and soft is a very
Speaker 1: operative for it. I mean, I don't want to be like, yeah, sawft,
Speaker 1: these guys are swaft. I think when it comes to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and how they get down early and how
Speaker 1: that translates for the rest of the game. It kind
Speaker 1: of feels like PTSD in a way. It feels like
Speaker 1: all of it, Even in the press box, all of
Speaker 1: us are thinking back to that wild card game that
Speaker 1: really just broke the team, you know, it really just
Speaker 1: demolished us inside it out. Granted we weren't playing well
Speaker 1: in December leading up to that game either, but to me,
Speaker 1: when like you just said, you're down ten to three
Speaker 1: against the Lions and then everybody's thinking, oh no, oh no,
Speaker 1: like it's happening again, and it is a self fulfilling
Speaker 1: prophecy in that moment, and the guys aren't stepping above
Speaker 1: what they're expected to do because they're accepting it. They're accepting,
Speaker 1: oh no, this is just gonna. I know, I've seen
Speaker 1: this movie before, and this is what's gonna And.
Speaker 5: It's gotta be a terrible feeling for those guys when
Speaker 5: they look turn the tape on and they look what
Speaker 5: they're about to play that week, and they know they
Speaker 5: just don't have the personnel that too. They don't have
Speaker 5: you know, even if they play their their best game,
Speaker 5: they've got to make a lot of mistakes on their side.
Speaker 5: For us to win. So it's got to be defeating
Speaker 5: no way, especially when you're down as me. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I know people have a opinions, but
Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody could have coached that team
Speaker 5: to not lose by twenty with all the injuries they
Speaker 5: had in that game. I mean, if you look at
Speaker 5: the injury report, especially on defense, it's like, Okay, how
Speaker 5: do you deal with this? But it's got to be
Speaker 5: And I bet that compounds too as an athlete on
Speaker 5: a team in a team sport, you know, the biggest
Speaker 5: of all team sports, where everybody has to do their
Speaker 5: job to know you're out matched and whatever you're trying
Speaker 5: and whatever's happening, you're just you just can't get it done.
Speaker 5: It's got to just you know, and you see it
Speaker 5: on their faces in the third and fourth quarter.
Speaker 8: It's just like, yeah, but here's what I'll say to that. Yeah,
Speaker 8: on paper, it didn't look like they were supposed to win.
Speaker 8: But teams that aren't supposed to win on paper, they
Speaker 8: are able to pull off miracles all the time. It
Speaker 8: happens all the time. That's where the phrase any given
Speaker 8: Sunday comes from.
Speaker 5: And yes, but for that to happen, you have to
Speaker 5: play a team that's either unprepared or underestimated.
Speaker 6: Do you have to have a really good day, which
Speaker 6: is what they needed.
Speaker 1: So like they did not have a good day.
Speaker 6: They not at all.
Speaker 8: Yes, they had some injuries, and anybody could point to
Speaker 8: those entries, but it's like you could also even point
Speaker 8: to some of the things that were in the right
Speaker 8: direction leading up to the game, and they didn't even
Speaker 8: do that well. I like, I listened to a lot
Speaker 8: of people's predictions for that game, and even the people
Speaker 8: who predicted that the Cowboys would lose didn't think that
Speaker 8: it was gonna go like that. And that's what I
Speaker 8: think the bigger problem is. I don't think it's just
Speaker 8: that they lost. I think it's the way they lost
Speaker 8: that This is literally a historical loss for the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 8: and even with the people who are on the field,
Speaker 8: there's no excuse for that. Like there's no excuse for
Speaker 8: Dak Prescott to be throwing off his back foot the
Speaker 8: entire game. I can hardly think of a throw that
Speaker 8: he was even able to step into what was going
Speaker 8: on in the run game, Like even Mike McCarthy didn't
Speaker 8: have answers.
Speaker 6: He's like, yeah, Recoa should touch the ball more.
Speaker 8: Okay, well what if yeah, if only the play caller
Speaker 8: agreed with you. Oh wait, you know, or like even
Speaker 8: on the defensive side, like so many misstackles, like just
Speaker 8: so many of the of the disciplinary issues that they
Speaker 8: have been talking about all season in terms of people
Speaker 8: doing their job, not playing hero ball, Like all of
Speaker 8: a sudden, those things are coming back. So it was
Speaker 8: just like, even for what they put on the field,
Speaker 8: they didn't even rise to the ocsion considering that group
Speaker 8: and what we've seen from them in that regard, even
Speaker 8: if you just look at the fact that going into
Speaker 8: that game, the way that that seeding Lamb's numbers were
Speaker 8: looking against man coverage, I was like, Okay, if he
Speaker 8: can at least do that and they can improve on
Speaker 8: that just a little bit, like they should be all right. No,
Speaker 8: every every single thing was worse. And I think that's
Speaker 8: the part that people are looking at when they're like, Okay,
Speaker 8: that's that's what's making people say, why isn't Mike McCarthy's
Speaker 8: jobbing question.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that it should be.
Speaker 8: I'm just saying that that's why a lot of people
Speaker 8: are saying those things.
Speaker 6: That's why the discourse is there exactly.
Speaker 5: And I thought discourse was an app used on the
Speaker 5: internet to talk about videos. Sorry, let's take our first break.
Speaker 5: When we come back, we'll talk some more. What is
Speaker 5: this team's identity? Josh brought it up earlier. We'll get
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 5: I don't have any identity at all for this team.
Speaker 5: This was this was a point that you you wanted
Speaker 5: to bring up, so you what is your your take
Speaker 5: on this team? Do they have an identity?
Speaker 1: You know? And then we just talked about it, and
Speaker 1: I'm still not of the idea that the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: soft quite yet. I think the identity was supposed to
Speaker 1: be that the offense was going to carry you. Dak
Speaker 1: was going to be you know, for god, he was
Speaker 1: going to go out there and do his thing right.
Speaker 1: He had the same offense that you did last year,
Speaker 1: the same play caller, and they were going to start cooking.
Speaker 1: You had the first five weeks of last year that
Speaker 1: looked exactly like the rest of the season, right, and
Speaker 1: then they got it back together after the charge, they
Speaker 1: picked it up. They were able to scheme players open,
Speaker 1: you know, and CD was just going bonkers. But now
Speaker 1: you have the season where this Lion's game. Correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. This was the best second half CD
Speaker 1: has had all year long. By matter of the fact
Speaker 1: that he only caught more than two balls in this
Speaker 1: second half. CD has not been playing very well and
Speaker 1: we're six weeks in. You can't blame it on training camp,
Speaker 1: you really cannot. It's six weeks into your regular season.
Speaker 1: He should be on in sync with Dak Prescott, and
Speaker 1: you see it in their press conferences. They're all talking
Speaker 1: about you know, yeah, look in the mirror. We got
Speaker 1: to look in the mirror. We got to see the
Speaker 1: take accountability for how we're playing and the details.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, they're all in sync on that front, but you're
Speaker 1: not seeing it on the field. You're seeing CD and
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson run into each other on routes. It to me,
Speaker 1: it's just not necessarily soft. It's just they're they're not
Speaker 1: in sync. They're not playing with the same idea in
Speaker 1: mind getting on the field at least that's what it
Speaker 1: looks like.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: You only can judge the results, not the intent. So
Speaker 1: as far as I'm sitting here, I it just blank
Speaker 1: John Doe for me. As far as the identity of
Speaker 1: this team, it's a cadaver with a toe tag on it.
Speaker 7: Oh wow, just kind of add on, Ceedee Lamb. In
Speaker 7: the first five games and second halfs five receptions for
Speaker 7: twenty four yards. In this game it was three receptions
Speaker 7: for forty three.
Speaker 1: Yards, so doubled it, almost almost doubled it. Three receptions though,
Speaker 1: and that's his best half second half.
Speaker 5: So did you just Josh refer to the Cowboys as
Speaker 5: being in a body bag for the second half of
Speaker 5: the season. You said they're cadaver with a toe tag.
Speaker 5: So are you writing them off? Or they done? They did?
Speaker 1: I said this was after the Ravens game. I said,
Speaker 1: if you lost any of the next three games, I
Speaker 1: would be hitting the panic button any of the next
Speaker 1: three Pittsburgh, New York and the Lions. I am firmly
Speaker 1: Why the Lions? Why the Lions? Like, let's just say
Speaker 1: it was a close loss. You still would have felt
Speaker 1: that way. I still would have felt that way. Why
Speaker 1: Because after the Ravens loss, you can't look like that again.
Speaker 1: If it was a close loss, maybe I would have
Speaker 1: been a little hesitant on it, but it was. It
Speaker 1: was what I expected out of the Lions loss.
Speaker 5: I felt better if it had been a close game
Speaker 5: because I think the Lions have a legit shot of
Speaker 5: going to the super Bowl in the NFC after seeing
Speaker 5: what they're there. Yeah and there, you know, especially the
Speaker 5: weapons they have on offense and you know, but barring injuries.
Speaker 1: My thing was you, to me, the real test on
Speaker 1: the schedule, the demon in the closet that's been haunting
Speaker 1: you for the last five years as the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. Yeah, you have them on your schedule
Speaker 1: right after the bye WEEKI to me, it was like,
Speaker 1: you need to stack wins and then prove that you
Speaker 1: can beat the forty nine ers for you to kind
Speaker 1: of get by against You defeated the Giants, fine, but
Speaker 1: to kind of get by against the Steelers and then
Speaker 1: to drop yet another disciplin pointing home loss to the Lions,
Speaker 1: to me, that just says, yeah, this team's just not it.
Speaker 1: It's not ready.
Speaker 7: All about you, Nick identity wise, Yeah, if we're looking
Speaker 7: for something positive, I don't think it's been I don't
Speaker 7: think it's been figured out at all. Like I said,
Speaker 7: if there was, if there was an identity that I
Speaker 7: had to place on this team right now, is that
Speaker 7: they're not physically uh, they're not physically tough. And and
Speaker 7: that's that's proven in games that they've lost and even
Speaker 7: in some games that they've won. You could look back
Speaker 7: to a to a couple last year, but even this year,
Speaker 7: specifically looking at the Pittsburgh game, second half, offense couldn't
Speaker 7: find anything. I mean, if that's an incomplete pass on
Speaker 7: that fourth down to Jalen Tolbert, we're having a different
Speaker 7: conversation about that Pittsburgh game too. You know, that was
Speaker 7: a game that they were outmatched physically, but they were
Speaker 7: still able to find a win. I think that's probably
Speaker 7: where the mental toughness probably came in came into the equation,
Speaker 7: especially after losing Marshaw Kneeland on the fourth play of
Speaker 7: the game and you're already down too. Edge rushers and
Speaker 7: those guys on the ends did step up. That's probably
Speaker 7: where the mental toughness did come into play. But I
Speaker 7: think from a physical standpoint, you have guys that are
Speaker 7: not willing to tackle out in open space. You have
Speaker 7: past protection issues, and it's trickling down to all five guys,
Speaker 7: including Zach Martin, who had the worst game of his
Speaker 7: career against the Lions.
Speaker 1: It's not a tough football team. That's my identity right now.
Speaker 8: About you, Jazz I also don't have a very positive
Speaker 8: word for their identity. Earlier this season, the question was asked,
Speaker 8: who's to blame for the cowboys rough start? And at
Speaker 8: that time I said it was a players, because the
Speaker 8: players were saying it was a players. Every bit of
Speaker 8: sound you heard from them was then pointing to each other.
Speaker 8: You know, Mike is saying guys need to step up,
Speaker 8: Jay Lou saying that, you know, guys need to do
Speaker 8: their job, Cavante.
Speaker 6: Saying people need to be on their p's and q's.
Speaker 8: Everybody was pointing to the other guys in the locker
Speaker 8: room and themselves. Right, So, if I follow that same
Speaker 8: trend of going by what they're saying, then their identity
Speaker 8: is that they're unprepared, because that's.
Speaker 6: What they're saying now.
Speaker 8: Dak is saying that they can't just show up on
Speaker 8: Sunday and they need to prepare better and Mike McCarthy
Speaker 8: even when he was asked about it, he's like, oh, well,
Speaker 8: it doesn't mean they're not practicing hard, they're just not
Speaker 8: practicing well. And I'm like, okay, that's still not great. Yeah,
Speaker 8: So they're unprepared on the field and off the field.
Speaker 8: It seems like they all know the right things to say,
Speaker 8: and they fall in line behind Mike McCarthy, Like when
Speaker 8: Dak said, well, I don't care to share the message
Speaker 8: that he that he gave us, I'm like, well, we
Speaker 8: all know what it is, because like three of you
Speaker 8: have said it now.
Speaker 6: It was look in the mirror.
Speaker 4: We know.
Speaker 8: And so like you hear that mirrord, But how often
Speaker 8: do you hear people really say what?
Speaker 6: What exactly does that mean?
Speaker 8: And it sounds good in theory when when we think, okay,
Speaker 8: they're gonna they're gonna go self scout, they're going to
Speaker 8: like really examine what they need to do better as
Speaker 8: an athlete in order to show up as their best selves.
Speaker 6: But we don't really know, you know. So they're unprepared
Speaker 6: and they say the right things.
Speaker 1: After the fat they're saying the right things. And I
Speaker 1: loved what Tommy Irish asked Dak Prescott after the game
Speaker 1: where he said it's like, okay, well, you know, looking
Speaker 1: in the mirror, what do you want to see in
Speaker 1: your reflection when you go go up to San Francisco.
Speaker 1: And Dak was a little puzzled by the question first,
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, that's a really good question,
Speaker 1: and I think that kind of sums it up. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have the right answer, but what are the results? Man?
Speaker 1: Are the results?
Speaker 6: You have to take action with that.
Speaker 8: And I'm glad you brought that up because this past
Speaker 8: postgame press conference was probably the first time I remember
Speaker 8: ever seeing Dak Prescott looking like he was at a
Speaker 8: loss for what to say because it was that one.
Speaker 8: And also when he said that they needed to prepare
Speaker 8: better and somebody was like, well, that was the problem
Speaker 8: two weeks ago, and he was like two weeks ago,
Speaker 8: and I'm like I'm watching this. I'm like, yes, Dak,
Speaker 8: you said that two weeks ago, and apparently it's still
Speaker 8: a problem. So yeah, there were a couple of moments
Speaker 8: during that press conference that he just seemed like he
Speaker 8: just wasn't prepared for the question.
Speaker 7: If there's preparation problems, if there's practice problems, then there
Speaker 7: are foundational issues around how they operate on a daily basis,
Speaker 7: and that just that gives me a little bit more
Speaker 7: pessimism about how an entire season can go. When you're
Speaker 7: already six games in and you're talking about key foundational
Speaker 7: things that you start your campaign with that you started
Speaker 7: in with OTA, when you started with Mini Camp, it's like, Okay, hey,
Speaker 7: young guys, Hey new guys that are in the building,
Speaker 7: this is how we prepare every single day. This is
Speaker 7: how we attack the day. That's what OTAs in Mini
Speaker 7: Camp is there for. So that when you do get
Speaker 7: to training camp, when you do get in the season,
Speaker 7: there's an expectation that you don't have to go over.
Speaker 7: Now we're in the bye week, they're going to be
Speaker 7: coming out of the bye week just now trying to
Speaker 7: put these things in and even if they do get
Speaker 7: them in place within three four weeks, that's not an
Speaker 7: overnight process. And then by then you're looking at the
Speaker 7: back half of a schedule. You have a lot more
Speaker 7: games already under your belt. By that point, then you
Speaker 7: have left. So I just it's going to take a
Speaker 7: really intentional coaching job and a really intentional approach by
Speaker 7: the players to be able to correct the issues that
Speaker 7: they have from a foundational standpoint going into the rest
Speaker 7: of the season. If they want to reach that ceiling
Speaker 7: that they had coming into the year.
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Speaker 1: give your answer for the identity of the team and
Speaker 1: at least, uh, just a bit, just give me a bit.
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, tell the people you don't have one, like,
Speaker 5: you don't have a passing game. Your passing game is
Speaker 5: not existent. You're you're the people, the two people you
Speaker 5: paid all the money to or not for whatever reason.
Speaker 5: And there's many reasons that everyone would like to know
Speaker 5: and pinpoint what it is. But you don't have a
Speaker 5: passing game, you don't have a running game at all.
Speaker 5: It's running back by committee. I think we were all
Speaker 5: everybody was worried about that going into the season, right
Speaker 5: because it's not fixed. It's not fixed. You're not gonna
Speaker 5: I don't think you're gonna fix it. I think Rico
Speaker 5: Dubtell is a good running back. I don't think he's
Speaker 5: he's not going to be able to do anything with
Speaker 5: what's around it, right. I think he's a good supplemental guy,
Speaker 5: but he's I mean, could Derrick Henry come in here.
Speaker 5: I know everybody talked about that, they wanted him in
Speaker 5: the off season. They still would he have even been
Speaker 5: made a difference on this team because your offensive line
Speaker 5: is the way they are. So I think they're probably
Speaker 5: frustrated and there they don't even know what the identity is.
Speaker 5: There's no you know, it's not a defensive team. You're
Speaker 5: giving up forty points a game when you lose. You're
Speaker 5: not a You're not a home team, You're not an
Speaker 5: on the road team. You're I mean I don't think
Speaker 5: you have one, and I don't know if they're going
Speaker 5: to figure it out. I don't This may just be
Speaker 5: one of those years where it's like, let's just get
Speaker 5: through the year, right, Let's just get from game to game.
Speaker 5: And because I think what makes this year different and
Speaker 5: feels different as from a fans perspective, is every other
Speaker 5: year there were things that were wrong and you had hope.
Speaker 5: I think this year, I don't know if there's any
Speaker 5: hope right now. I think it's like it is what
Speaker 5: it is. And you know, even when you say, well,
Speaker 5: when Micah comes back and when Tank comes back, and
Speaker 5: like years probably fixed, they're not fixed right in the past,
Speaker 5: you would think like that's gonna make a difference. And
Speaker 5: I feel like the fans probably feel like there's a
Speaker 5: lot more going on. Like you said, there's foundational things,
Speaker 5: and what have caused those I don't know. But even
Speaker 5: when the guys, like you said, when they go and
Speaker 5: they talk after the game, I think they're looking for answers,
Speaker 5: they're trying to figure out what the identity is. So
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Speaker 5: this early in the season. That's the thing. Six games
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Speaker 5: I think going out, you have to play a good
Speaker 5: game against San Francisco or you're gonna lose the team,
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Speaker 5: could do that. You have the tools to do that, right,
Speaker 5: you just have to figure out how things work. And
Speaker 5: you know, hopefully those guys are still plugging away and
Speaker 5: they feel that way. So anything can happen in the NFL.
Speaker 5: You can get hot. Look at the Giants at the
Speaker 5: end of the year when they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: They ripped off you know, five six wins at the
Speaker 5: end of the season and won the Super Bowl. They
Speaker 5: were bad during the year. So nothing's beyond you know,
Speaker 5: being possible. But do you feel like the season is
Speaker 5: lost or do you think they can You said your
Speaker 5: your ceiling is getting to the playoffs now right, do
Speaker 5: you think that's attainable or are you kind of like
Speaker 5: that's pie in the sky tight?
Speaker 7: Now? I think it's attainable. I think it's a table
Speaker 7: to get to the playoffs. You still have really talented
Speaker 7: players on this team. You have a Dak Prescott, a
Speaker 7: CD Lamb of Michael Parsons when he comes back, which
Speaker 7: I assume will be in San Francisco. You have guys
Speaker 7: on both sides of the ball, all three phases. If
Speaker 7: you want to count in Brandon Aubrey, that can win
Speaker 7: you ball games and that can step up and be
Speaker 7: able to be that guy whenever they need one guy.
Speaker 1: To step up.
Speaker 7: Eventually the talent is going to show up, and we
Speaker 7: haven't necessarily seen it so far. Even in their wins.
Speaker 7: It's been more of a cumulative effort, whereas in years past.
Speaker 7: You could point at, Hey, that was the Mica game.
Speaker 7: Hey that was the CD game, the Detroit game last
Speaker 7: year was the CD game. You could look at a
Speaker 7: DAK game. We haven't seen any of those so far.
Speaker 7: Those games will come. I'm confident in that I think
Speaker 7: there is still talent on this team. But I think
Speaker 7: from an overall perspective, whenever you look at the twenty
Speaker 7: three to fifty three on this roster, I don't think
Speaker 7: there's enough there to lead me to believe that this
Speaker 7: can be a team we look at in late January
Speaker 7: that's still playing.
Speaker 5: So the depth, to you is what's causing a lot
Speaker 5: of this is when you lose your key role players,
Speaker 5: there's not the depth and the quality of depth to back.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's just a lot of young players that
Speaker 7: are that are getting these reps and eventually that will
Speaker 7: pay off down the line. You know, these young players
Speaker 7: getting this this type of time and experience young in
Speaker 7: their career, it's gonna help, but not this season. You know,
Speaker 7: I think this season it's it's taking the learning curve
Speaker 7: and understanding that that will you know, read the rewards
Speaker 7: in future seasons, but as of right now, you need
Speaker 7: that one to twenty two.
Speaker 1: Back healthy, Let me let me cook for a second.
Speaker 1: Does this feel in a way? You know in high school?
Speaker 1: You you you study hard, you're getting ready to graduate,
Speaker 1: you know, Freshman year, I know, sorry, senior year, senior year.
Speaker 1: She's the only one with a book in front of it.
Speaker 1: I believe it.
Speaker 5: I believe it.
Speaker 1: It's all about to come to an end senior year.
Speaker 1: And there's a little thing called senioritis when you have
Speaker 1: a coaching staff that is on the final year of
Speaker 1: their contracts. Difference. I wasn't getting paid my senior year
Speaker 1: of high school. That's fair that there are millions of dollars, millions.
Speaker 7: Of dollars with the threat of not having that money
Speaker 7: come back if I didn't do a good job that
Speaker 7: senior year.
Speaker 1: But that's fair. But I think at least with the
Speaker 1: players around you, you know what I mean. Do you
Speaker 1: think the mentality do you think that creeps in a
Speaker 1: little bit where it's like, of course it does. It's
Speaker 1: coming to an end here, guys. You know, I think for.
Speaker 6: The players and how they feel about McCarthy.
Speaker 5: I don't want to say that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that explicitly, but I'm saying,
Speaker 1: is that even a fact. I don't think it is.
Speaker 1: I really don't.
Speaker 6: I don't think it is among the players who matter.
Speaker 8: I think obviously there are just gonna be some some
Speaker 8: guys who, like like you mentioned the twenty three through
Speaker 8: fifty three, there'll be a few among them who and
Speaker 8: it wouldn't even have anything to do with McCarthy. That
Speaker 8: just might be the attitude that they have in general.
Speaker 8: But I feel like when it comes to players, they
Speaker 8: play for their pride, they play for their future contracts,
Speaker 8: they play for their incentives. They there's a lot of
Speaker 8: guys on the team who don't seem to end joy losing.
Speaker 8: So I just don't see them being like, oh, well,
Speaker 8: there's gonna be a new system next season.
Speaker 1: So I think there's no guarantee that.
Speaker 5: I think for the exact reasons of what you just said,
Speaker 5: there is some of that. They're playing for their contracts,
Speaker 5: they're playing for their incentives, they're playing for that next contract.
Speaker 5: I know most of you guys aren't gonna be here,
Speaker 5: So if I can freelance a little bit to get
Speaker 5: my numbers up and get good tape out there and
Speaker 5: do something, you're not gonna be here to tell me
Speaker 5: what to do next year anyway, So I'm gonna get
Speaker 5: my money, like I'm gonna pull out some good tape.
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a lot of that, but I.
Speaker 1: Think they're on the same page with me a little
Speaker 1: bit that that's kind of where I'm getting at. I'm
Speaker 1: definitely don't.
Speaker 5: Think anybody is out to get coach McCarthy, like we're
Speaker 5: gonna sabbotelage him and do that. But I do think
Speaker 5: there's a little bit of Okay, I'm gonna get mine
Speaker 5: because this might not be around me next year and
Speaker 5: I don't have to answer you know, I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: have to answer this. There's gonna be a new system
Speaker 5: in place, and so I'm gonna do what I can do.
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel quish apathy in that respect.
Speaker 5: Personal great question.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's set in yet. I think if
Speaker 1: it does, it'll look up.
Speaker 7: We'll look up after Thanksgiving, and if this team is,
Speaker 7: you know, at the bottom of the ocean, then.
Speaker 1: That's that's way you start to see that happen.
Speaker 5: How bad is let's don't even talk about that. Well,
Speaker 5: it looks like it does now without appat you imagine
Speaker 5: what it would look like with that.
Speaker 1: And to your questions, this is something that Nate Newton
Speaker 1: told me last year when I was first starting with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, was that you don't really know who a
Speaker 1: team is until Thanksgiving. So that has sucked with me
Speaker 1: since because I kind of had a better idea of
Speaker 1: who the team was last Thanksgiving and now I'm kind
Speaker 1: of waiting for that. I don't think the season is
Speaker 1: lost by any means, speaking of speaking of right there
Speaker 1: respect more than anyone, and he has different feelings for me.
Speaker 5: But late.
Speaker 1: What's going out. Let's going out.
Speaker 6: To people.
Speaker 5: I ain't trying to brag.
Speaker 6: We need the hand most. We are the number one.
Speaker 5: View Oh Josh just told me somebody cooked the numbers.
Speaker 5: We had two more shows than anybody.
Speaker 1: Else last it was more like three buttons. All right, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all right. That's why we're number one. I got
Speaker 1: more views and all the other shows that you rosters,
Speaker 1: we're still number one. You have the same you have
Speaker 1: the same olds. It's entire time, last seven years. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They're familiar with you guys.
Speaker 5: That's all right, Just so you know, Nate Newton and
Speaker 5: Jesse Holly just walked in the studio. They are on
Speaker 5: the player's lounge next right after it. Normally, no, we
Speaker 5: have we have a little great speriod, we have a
Speaker 5: little thanks.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Jazz for the terrible.
Speaker 5: These jokers, thanks for stopping by. Miss y'all. What was
Speaker 5: your point?
Speaker 8: Sorry, I was just gonna say for me, I agree
Speaker 8: with you all that this season is not over. I
Speaker 8: think I've been I've been trying not to look at
Speaker 8: this as a movie that sucks and more like a
Speaker 8: series that like left us at a midseason cliffhanger. Yes,
Speaker 8: like they're going into the bye week and Noah doesn't
Speaker 8: feel like they're saying the right things. But we have
Speaker 8: seen examples of a lot of these guys performing a
Speaker 8: lot better than we saw against the lines. If they
Speaker 8: can do something to harness whatever got them to those points,
Speaker 8: then maybe there's a little bit of hope. There's a
Speaker 8: lot of stories that need to be told here. Like
Speaker 8: there's a story of Dak Prescott as a leader who's
Speaker 8: trying to, you know, navigate this situation with this unmotivated,
Speaker 8: well seemingly unmotivated offense. There's a story of Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 8: getting paid and people expecting him to show up as
Speaker 8: a leader, and some people in the locker room saying
Speaker 8: he's the leader, but people not really seeing it. There's
Speaker 8: all these guys on defense, Like who knows what kind
Speaker 8: of perspective Michael Parsons and d Law might come back
Speaker 8: with after like looking at the team more so from
Speaker 8: the outside looking in, and how that might impact their
Speaker 8: role on the team. We've got the whole situation with
Speaker 8: the running back room and how are they gonna get
Speaker 8: on the same page. Like, I mean, the offensive line
Speaker 8: is a whole soap opera within itself. Like I just
Speaker 8: feel like there's a lot of stories to be told here,
Speaker 8: and depending on how each of the stories goes, that's
Speaker 8: what's going to determine how this season goes. So it's
Speaker 8: like it's not like there's like one thing that's going
Speaker 8: to be the thing. I feel like there's each Each
Speaker 8: person has an opportunity right now to do something different
Speaker 8: that can impact the rest of the season. And I
Speaker 8: feel like if you get most people going in the
Speaker 8: right direction, then the team will go in the right direction.
Speaker 5: I like it, and don't lose hope. There is hope
Speaker 5: because if you look at the standings right now, six
Speaker 5: weeks in. There are teams in the very bottom of
Speaker 5: their divisions that are going to turn it around and
Speaker 5: they're going to be at the top, and there's ones
Speaker 5: that are at the top that are going to be
Speaker 5: at the bottom. I have every year in the NFL. It
Speaker 5: just feels really the no identity part. You don't have
Speaker 5: anything to cling on to, and it feels a little hopeless.
Speaker 5: So but what's not hopeless is this show because guess what,
Speaker 5: we will be back tomorrow doing the same show at
Speaker 5: the same time.
Speaker 1: Six less Pro Bowls, but we'll be here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, in three Super Bowl Championships less, but
Speaker 5: we'll be here. So thank you. This was awesome, nice
Speaker 5: hanging out with you, Jazz YouTube, Nick, what was your name.
Speaker 1: Again, Josh Josh, Thanks, thanks for the shure.
Speaker 5: You're welcome man, Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air. Josh,
Speaker 5: you're not in the back anymore, Jazz, thanks for keeping
Speaker 5: Chris company in the back. And Jesse. Jesse was back
Speaker 5: there today. We will be back tomorrow, same time, the
Speaker 5: same place. On Hanging with the Boys, it's just been
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