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Speaker 4: Flavor gets its wings.

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Speaker 5: Surprise, it's not named Newton, Jesse Holly, Shannon Gross and

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Speaker 5: Kurt Daniels. But we will tell you who is here

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Speaker 5: on our White Elephant week on Hanging with a Boy

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Speaker 5: You're looking live at Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Fort Center

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Speaker 5: at the Star in Frisco, Texas, where it is very

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Speaker 5: lively out there. There's a lot of action on the plaza.

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Speaker 5: It is eighty three degree. That may have something to

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Speaker 5: do with it. And the HI today is ninety one

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Speaker 5: and I just found out the load to night is

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Speaker 1: Turn me up, let's go. I'm about that. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you were listening to what is it you are? Shannon?

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Speaker 1: This is Jazz. This is Nick Harris in the back

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Speaker 1: of Christopher Beemer.

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Speaker 5: There we go.

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Speaker 1: Hi, am Josh Rodriguez you're listening to Hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: the sports talk equivalent of Brielley with the Boys and

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Speaker 1: Goal Poe metaphorically, when we.

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Speaker 5: Speak, there we go. Chris asked Jesse, asked Jess how

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Speaker 5: he did?

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Speaker 6: I missed it?

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Speaker 5: Asked Jesse how he did?

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Speaker 1: How we do? Jesse?

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Speaker 5: Practice?

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Speaker 1: Practice practice? Okay, I tried to do a tone down

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Speaker 1: is down from Jesse. You know what I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 1: you have to tone it down. I can't go to that.

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Speaker 1: If you're going into the bye week needing some practice,

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Speaker 1: You're not the only one around here.

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Speaker 5: And just to say shots, we are brought to them

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Speaker 5: each and every day by Wing Stop Flavor gets its way. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we got.

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Speaker 6: Practice.

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Speaker 5: We all listen to all shows either. So, but how

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Speaker 5: does it feel to sit in the seats of the

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Speaker 5: number one rated podcast on the Dallas Cowboys Network.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because you guys have more podcasts than everybody else.

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Speaker 1: So it's funny how that number works out.

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Speaker 5: You know, we have more podcasts than everybody.

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Speaker 1: Literally, they're more Hanging with the Boys podcast, We're all

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Speaker 1: they're like twenty that last there's only two more So

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Speaker 1: let's not let's oh Josh, okay, okay, you're sharing right

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Speaker 1: sometimes Okay, the mood, so we're talking about quantity.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know we were coming on the air and

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Speaker 5: starting to throw rocks at people, like.

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Speaker 6: I'm just here to talk ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the show.

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Speaker 5: By the way, I didn't know we're here.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, so the number one show, that's a fact.

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Speaker 5: That's a fact. Apparently we have more shows than everybody.

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Speaker 5: So that's an excuse you can use until next week.

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Speaker 1: The number of episodes.

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Speaker 5: Yes, all right, let's go.

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Speaker 1: It's fair enough.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 7: The second best fight between radio hosts today.

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Speaker 5: Wow them? So how do let's go around? By the way,

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Speaker 5: let's enter. Everybody kind of entered. Everybody should know me

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Speaker 5: and Josh because we're we're interact on the show all

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Speaker 5: the time on this show. So for the people that

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Speaker 5: don't know, Nick, introduce yourself. Sorry, let me introduce the

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Speaker 5: lady on the show. First, Jazz introducer.

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Speaker 8: I'm Jazz Money from Girls Talk, Boys Talk Okay, anything

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Speaker 8: else I should share? No, this is my first season

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Speaker 8: doing this with the Dallas Cowboys. I've had my own

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Speaker 8: podcast on YouTube for a while.

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Speaker 5: Oh nice, So I would say yes, normally, but the

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Speaker 5: last year we had these, I tried to get to

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Speaker 5: Let's get to know each other. Where are you from?

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Speaker 7: What are you doing?

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Speaker 5: It was terrible radio. So that's that works perfectly, So

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Speaker 7: Okay, all right, I'm gonna use that you a shortened sweet.

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Speaker 1: I'm to Carris.

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Speaker 7: I'm on the Break formerly of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 7: now with the four star Tillgram and Josh.

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Speaker 5: For folks that don't know who you are, I just.

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Speaker 1: Kind of work here, man, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: He was like, who's Josh? And I'm like, he's just

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Speaker 7: always doing something very important. But he's always in the

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Speaker 7: room with Beam, always doing something very important. Go introduce

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Speaker 7: yourself and this is fair. This is fair a vip

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Speaker 7: of sorts.

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Speaker 1: No, not note at all, And you're on which shows

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Speaker 1: Escape by Talking Cowboys, the flagship podcast on the Dallascowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com radio network.

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Speaker 5: Baby apparently with two less shows than us every month.

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Speaker 1: So just a couple less shows and it just was

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Speaker 1: And anyways, no excuses, no excuses. You guys are number one.

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Speaker 5: You take us live and man, we've been working for

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Speaker 5: that for ten years. Let us have our moment.

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Speaker 1: You take it your number one podcast. I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: be I'm honored. I'm honored to be on hanging for you.

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Speaker 5: Sit and keep pushing those buttons because the button pushers

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Speaker 5: in the back wind up doing big things with this organization.

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Speaker 5: So everyone gets out of the basement Jesus except Chris.

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Speaker 1: Chris Chris.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, all right, let's talk some football.

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Speaker 1: Let's beef man, Jazz.

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Speaker 5: Let's start with you. We're going into the bye week.

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Speaker 5: What were your expectations going into the season, Where are

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Speaker 6: Oh lord, where it started, where it's going.

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Speaker 8: With my expectations coming into the season, I wanted to

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Speaker 8: I was expecting a lot more comfort with Michae McCarthy

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Speaker 6: Honestly been unpredictable.

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Speaker 8: I can't think of a single thing that's actually been

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Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy emphasizes things like complimentary football and everything that

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Speaker 5: point of the season so far. That's not a great thing.

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Speaker 1: So better than the punter, I guess.

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Speaker 7: for me whatever, I was looking at the twenty twenty

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Speaker 7: a microcosm of what this team has been over the

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Speaker 7: course of the last two years. Not a physical football team,

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Speaker 7: we've seen that come about over and over and over again.

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Speaker 7: I came into the season understanding that the ceiling the

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Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there. Looking at twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: This game is not looking good on all fronts. You

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Speaker 7: Unfortunately, I think there is, and it's that they're soft. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 7: and that was that was told. Unfortunately, I think that

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Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, I think one of your points is

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Speaker 1: If the Steelers had a better game plan, they would

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Speaker 1: know you are what your record says you are, right.

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Speaker 5: Don't ask a question, No, you can't ask questions.

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Speaker 8: Of course, I kind of want to dive into this

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Speaker 8: what do you mean by soft? Because I feel like

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Speaker 8: that could refer to a few different things, like physically.

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Speaker 8: Obviously people have been talking about the mistackles, but then

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Speaker 8: What are you thinking of when you use that word?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just want to see it translated to the field.

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Speaker 7: And in these games where the Cowboys have gotten in

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Speaker 7: And the entire time that Mike McCarthy has been head coached,

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Speaker 7: essence one time, that speaks some mental toughness being able

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Speaker 1: So I just want to see it translated.

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Speaker 7: Do I think that some of these guys in the

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Speaker 7: I think it needs to be translated. In two games,

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Speaker 7: we haven't seen that happen yet.

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Speaker 5: Breaking news real quick before you get back into that.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Former Cowboy Amari Cooper has been traded to the

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Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills. Reports say, thanks Chris for the breaking news.

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Speaker 5: And I think Nick, that goes back several years. What

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Speaker 5: I don't remember the game. It was I think three

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Speaker 5: He slid and a guy came in high hit him

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Speaker 9: it was Washington. Like your offensive lineman should have been

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Speaker 9: over there getting fifteen yard penalties left and right, defending

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Speaker 5: Right, like taking up for your your your teammate doing.

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Speaker 5: And I see some signs of dog on this team,

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Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis, you know, I think Smith, I think Demarian's

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Speaker 5: You know. It's almost like that this is what we do.

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Speaker 5: We show up and then there's no ramifications for not

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Speaker 1: It's miscrocosm of all of that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like you look at the lines and you know

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Speaker 5: you just don't. That's what I say whenever you see

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Speaker 5: And there's not a lot of that to me.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't like to use the word soft, but

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Speaker 8: But it felt like they just gave up so early.

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Speaker 1: Yes, fix it.

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Speaker 8: But it felt like they gave up so early, and

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Speaker 8: I watch a lot of sports, right, and there are

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Speaker 8: a few tennis players that I like, Serena Williams Coco

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Speaker 8: He talks about leaders being an example of what you're

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Speaker 8: And so at the end of the day, people follow leaders,

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Speaker 1: Like, I think so too and soft is a very

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Speaker 1: when like you just said, you're down ten to three

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Speaker 1: like it's happening again, and it is a self fulfilling

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Speaker 1: prophecy in that moment, and the guys aren't stepping above

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Speaker 1: what they're expected to do because they're accepting it. They're accepting,

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Speaker 1: oh no, this is just gonna. I know, I've seen

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Speaker 5: It's gotta be a terrible feeling for those guys when

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Speaker 5: they look turn the tape on and they look what

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Speaker 5: they're about to play that week, and they know they

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Speaker 5: just don't have the personnel that too. They don't have

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Speaker 5: you know, even if they play their their best game,

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Speaker 5: they've got to make a lot of mistakes on their side.

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Speaker 5: For us to win. So it's got to be defeating

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Speaker 5: no way, especially when you're down as me. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I know people have a opinions, but

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Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody could have coached that team

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Speaker 5: to not lose by twenty with all the injuries they

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Speaker 5: had in that game. I mean, if you look at

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Speaker 5: the injury report, especially on defense, it's like, Okay, how

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Speaker 5: do you deal with this? But it's got to be

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Speaker 5: And I bet that compounds too as an athlete on

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Speaker 5: job to know you're out matched and whatever you're trying

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Speaker 5: and whatever's happening, you're just you just can't get it done.

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Speaker 5: It's got to just you know, and you see it

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Speaker 8: It's just like, yeah, but here's what I'll say to that. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: on paper, it didn't look like they were supposed to win.

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Speaker 8: But teams that aren't supposed to win on paper, they

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Speaker 5: And yes, but for that to happen, you have to

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Speaker 6: Do you have to have a really good day, which

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Speaker 6: is what they needed.

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Speaker 1: So like they did not have a good day.

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Speaker 6: They not at all.

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Speaker 8: Yes, they had some injuries, and anybody could point to

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Speaker 8: those entries, but it's like you could also even point

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Speaker 8: to some of the things that were in the right

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Speaker 8: direction leading up to the game, and they didn't even

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Speaker 8: do that well. I like, I listened to a lot

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Speaker 8: of people's predictions for that game, and even the people

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Speaker 8: it was gonna go like that. And that's what I

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Speaker 8: think the bigger problem is. I don't think it's just

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Speaker 8: that they lost. I think it's the way they lost

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Speaker 8: that This is literally a historical loss for the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 8: and even with the people who are on the field,

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Speaker 8: there's no excuse for that. Like there's no excuse for

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Speaker 8: Dak Prescott to be throwing off his back foot the

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Speaker 8: entire game. I can hardly think of a throw that

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Speaker 8: he was even able to step into what was going

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Speaker 8: on in the run game, Like even Mike McCarthy didn't

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Speaker 6: He's like, yeah, Recoa should touch the ball more.

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Speaker 8: Okay, well what if yeah, if only the play caller

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Speaker 8: have been talking about all season in terms of people

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Speaker 8: doing their job, not playing hero ball, Like all of

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Speaker 8: a sudden, those things are coming back. So it was

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Speaker 8: just like, even for what they put on the field,

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Speaker 8: they didn't even rise to the ocsion considering that group

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Speaker 8: and what we've seen from them in that regard, even

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Speaker 8: that just a little bit, like they should be all right. No,

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Speaker 8: every every single thing was worse. And I think that's

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Speaker 8: the part that people are looking at when they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 8: that's that's what's making people say, why isn't Mike McCarthy's

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying that it should be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't.

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Speaker 5: I don't have any identity at all for this team.

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Speaker 5: This was this was a point that you you wanted

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Speaker 5: to bring up, so you what is your your take

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Speaker 5: on this team? Do they have an identity?

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Speaker 1: You know? And then we just talked about it, and

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Speaker 1: I'm still not of the idea that the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: soft quite yet. I think the identity was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be that the offense was going to carry you. Dak

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Speaker 1: was going to be you know, for god, he was

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Speaker 1: going to go out there and do his thing right.

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Speaker 1: He had the same offense that you did last year,

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Speaker 1: the same play caller, and they were going to start cooking.

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Speaker 1: You had the first five weeks of last year that

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Speaker 1: looked exactly like the rest of the season, right, and

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Speaker 1: then they got it back together after the charge, they

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Speaker 1: picked it up. They were able to scheme players open,

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Speaker 1: you know, and CD was just going bonkers. But now

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Speaker 1: you have the season where this Lion's game. Correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. This was the best second half CD

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Speaker 1: has had all year long. By matter of the fact

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Speaker 1: that he only caught more than two balls in this

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Speaker 1: second half. CD has not been playing very well and

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Speaker 1: we're six weeks in. You can't blame it on training camp,

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Speaker 1: you really cannot. It's six weeks into your regular season.

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Speaker 1: He should be on in sync with Dak Prescott, and

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Speaker 1: you see it in their press conferences. They're all talking

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Speaker 1: about you know, yeah, look in the mirror. We got

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Speaker 1: to look in the mirror. We got to see the

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Speaker 1: take accountability for how we're playing and the details.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're all in sync on that front, but you're

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Speaker 1: not seeing it on the field. You're seeing CD and

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Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson run into each other on routes. It to me,

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Speaker 1: it's just not necessarily soft. It's just they're they're not

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Speaker 1: in sync. They're not playing with the same idea in

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Speaker 1: mind getting on the field at least that's what it

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Speaker 1: looks like.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: You only can judge the results, not the intent. So

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Speaker 1: as far as I'm sitting here, I it just blank

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Speaker 1: this team, it's a cadaver with a toe tag on it.

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Speaker 7: Oh wow, just kind of add on, Ceedee Lamb. In

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Speaker 7: the first five games and second halfs five receptions for

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Speaker 7: twenty four yards. In this game it was three receptions

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Speaker 7: for forty three.

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Speaker 1: Yards, so doubled it, almost almost doubled it. Three receptions though,

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Speaker 1: and that's his best half second half.

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Speaker 5: So did you just Josh refer to the Cowboys as

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Speaker 5: being in a body bag for the second half of

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Speaker 5: the season. You said they're cadaver with a toe tag.

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Speaker 5: So are you writing them off? Or they done? They did?

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Speaker 1: I said this was after the Ravens game. I said,

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Speaker 1: if you lost any of the next three games, I

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Speaker 1: Why the Lions? Why the Lions? Like, let's just say

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Speaker 1: it was a close loss. You still would have felt

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Speaker 1: that way. I still would have felt that way. Why

659
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Speaker 1: Because after the Ravens loss, you can't look like that again.

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Speaker 1: If it was a close loss, maybe I would have

661
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Speaker 1: been a little hesitant on it, but it was. It

662
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Speaker 1: was what I expected out of the Lions loss.

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Speaker 5: I felt better if it had been a close game

664
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Speaker 5: because I think the Lions have a legit shot of

665
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Speaker 5: going to the super Bowl in the NFC after seeing

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Speaker 5: what they're there. Yeah and there, you know, especially the

667
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Speaker 5: weapons they have on offense and you know, but barring injuries.

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Speaker 1: My thing was you, to me, the real test on

669
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Speaker 1: the schedule, the demon in the closet that's been haunting

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Speaker 1: you for the last five years as the San Francisco

671
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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. Yeah, you have them on your schedule

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Speaker 1: right after the bye WEEKI to me, it was like,

673
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Speaker 1: you need to stack wins and then prove that you

674
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Speaker 1: can beat the forty nine ers for you to kind

675
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: of get by against You defeated the Giants, fine, but

676
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: to kind of get by against the Steelers and then

677
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Speaker 1: to drop yet another disciplin pointing home loss to the Lions,

678
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: to me, that just says, yeah, this team's just not it.

679
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Speaker 1: It's not ready.

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Speaker 7: All about you, Nick identity wise, Yeah, if we're looking

681
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 7: for something positive, I don't think it's been I don't

682
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Speaker 7: think it's been figured out at all. Like I said,

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Speaker 7: if there was, if there was an identity that I

684
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 7: had to place on this team right now, is that

685
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 7: they're not physically uh, they're not physically tough. And and

686
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 7: that's that's proven in games that they've lost and even

687
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 7: in some games that they've won. You could look back

688
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 7: to a to a couple last year, but even this year,

689
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 7: specifically looking at the Pittsburgh game, second half, offense couldn't

690
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Speaker 7: find anything. I mean, if that's an incomplete pass on

691
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 7: that fourth down to Jalen Tolbert, we're having a different

692
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 7: conversation about that Pittsburgh game too. You know, that was

693
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 7: a game that they were outmatched physically, but they were

694
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 7: still able to find a win. I think that's probably

695
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Speaker 7: where the mental toughness probably came in came into the equation,

696
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Speaker 7: especially after losing Marshaw Kneeland on the fourth play of

697
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 7: the game and you're already down too. Edge rushers and

698
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 7: those guys on the ends did step up. That's probably

699
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Speaker 7: where the mental toughness did come into play. But I

700
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Speaker 7: think from a physical standpoint, you have guys that are

701
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 7: not willing to tackle out in open space. You have

702
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 7: past protection issues, and it's trickling down to all five guys,

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Speaker 7: including Zach Martin, who had the worst game of his

704
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Speaker 7: career against the Lions.

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Speaker 1: It's not a tough football team. That's my identity right now.

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Speaker 8: About you, Jazz I also don't have a very positive

707
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 8: word for their identity. Earlier this season, the question was asked,

708
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 8: who's to blame for the cowboys rough start? And at

709
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 8: that time I said it was a players, because the

710
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 8: players were saying it was a players. Every bit of

711
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 8: sound you heard from them was then pointing to each other.

712
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Speaker 8: You know, Mike is saying guys need to step up,

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00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 8: Jay Lou saying that, you know, guys need to do

714
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 8: their job, Cavante.

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00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 6: Saying people need to be on their p's and q's.

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Speaker 8: Everybody was pointing to the other guys in the locker

717
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 8: room and themselves. Right, So, if I follow that same

718
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 8: trend of going by what they're saying, then their identity

719
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 8: is that they're unprepared, because that's.

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Speaker 6: What they're saying now.

721
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Speaker 8: Dak is saying that they can't just show up on

722
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Speaker 8: Sunday and they need to prepare better and Mike McCarthy

723
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Speaker 8: even when he was asked about it, he's like, oh, well,

724
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Speaker 8: it doesn't mean they're not practicing hard, they're just not

725
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 8: practicing well. And I'm like, okay, that's still not great. Yeah,

726
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 8: So they're unprepared on the field and off the field.

727
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 8: It seems like they all know the right things to say,

728
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 8: and they fall in line behind Mike McCarthy, Like when

729
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 8: Dak said, well, I don't care to share the message

730
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 8: that he that he gave us, I'm like, well, we

731
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Speaker 8: all know what it is, because like three of you

732
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Speaker 8: have said it now.

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Speaker 6: It was look in the mirror.

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Speaker 4: We know.

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Speaker 8: And so like you hear that mirrord, But how often

736
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 8: do you hear people really say what?

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00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 6: What exactly does that mean?

738
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Speaker 8: And it sounds good in theory when when we think, okay,

739
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 8: they're gonna they're gonna go self scout, they're going to

740
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Speaker 8: like really examine what they need to do better as

741
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 8: an athlete in order to show up as their best selves.

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Speaker 6: But we don't really know, you know. So they're unprepared

743
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 6: and they say the right things.

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00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: After the fat they're saying the right things. And I

745
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: loved what Tommy Irish asked Dak Prescott after the game

746
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: where he said it's like, okay, well, you know, looking

747
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: in the mirror, what do you want to see in

748
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: your reflection when you go go up to San Francisco.

749
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: And Dak was a little puzzled by the question first,

750
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, that's a really good question,

751
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: and I think that kind of sums it up. It's like, yeah,

752
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: you have the right answer, but what are the results? Man?

753
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: Are the results?

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Speaker 6: You have to take action with that.

755
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Speaker 8: And I'm glad you brought that up because this past

756
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 8: postgame press conference was probably the first time I remember

757
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 8: ever seeing Dak Prescott looking like he was at a

758
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 8: loss for what to say because it was that one.

759
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 8: And also when he said that they needed to prepare

760
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 8: better and somebody was like, well, that was the problem

761
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 8: two weeks ago, and he was like two weeks ago,

762
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 8: and I'm like I'm watching this. I'm like, yes, Dak,

763
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 8: you said that two weeks ago, and apparently it's still

764
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 8: a problem. So yeah, there were a couple of moments

765
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 8: during that press conference that he just seemed like he

766
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 8: just wasn't prepared for the question.

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Speaker 7: If there's preparation problems, if there's practice problems, then there

768
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 7: are foundational issues around how they operate on a daily basis,

769
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Speaker 7: and that just that gives me a little bit more

770
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 7: pessimism about how an entire season can go. When you're

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Speaker 7: already six games in and you're talking about key foundational

772
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Speaker 7: things that you start your campaign with that you started

773
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Speaker 7: in with OTA, when you started with Mini Camp, it's like, Okay, hey,

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Speaker 7: young guys, Hey new guys that are in the building,

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Speaker 7: this is how we prepare every single day. This is

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Speaker 7: how we attack the day. That's what OTAs in Mini

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Speaker 7: Camp is there for. So that when you do get

778
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Speaker 7: to training camp, when you do get in the season,

779
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Speaker 7: there's an expectation that you don't have to go over.

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00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 7: Now we're in the bye week, they're going to be

781
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Speaker 7: coming out of the bye week just now trying to

782
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Speaker 7: put these things in and even if they do get

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Speaker 7: them in place within three four weeks, that's not an

784
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Speaker 7: overnight process. And then by then you're looking at the

785
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Speaker 7: back half of a schedule. You have a lot more

786
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 7: games already under your belt. By that point, then you

787
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Speaker 7: have left. So I just it's going to take a

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Speaker 7: really intentional coaching job and a really intentional approach by

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Speaker 7: the players to be able to correct the issues that

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Speaker 7: they have from a foundational standpoint going into the rest

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Speaker 7: of the season. If they want to reach that ceiling

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about what they can do between now and Yes, Well.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to hear what you had to say about Well, we.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what any of that means, but

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Speaker 1: I have Google literally opened right in front of me.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait.

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Speaker 5: It's like I'm on a cowboy's wifie.

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Speaker 6: A chance, I mean, like, not.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's not this minute today.

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Speaker 4: A chance.

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Speaker 5: Not a chance before we get to what they can

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Speaker 5: do to show up against and show out against San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: What you had a question for me? You were gonna

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Speaker 5: let me talk.

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Speaker 1: No, I wanted. I wanted you to to kind of

874
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: give your answer for the identity of the team and

875
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: at least, uh, just a bit, just give me a bit.

876
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: And we talked a little bit off air.

877
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, tell the people you don't have one, like,

878
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 5: you don't have a passing game. Your passing game is

879
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 5: not existent. You're you're the people, the two people you

880
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 5: paid all the money to or not for whatever reason.

881
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 5: And there's many reasons that everyone would like to know

882
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 5: and pinpoint what it is. But you don't have a

883
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 5: passing game, you don't have a running game at all.

884
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 5: It's running back by committee. I think we were all

885
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 5: everybody was worried about that going into the season, right

886
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 5: because it's not fixed. It's not fixed. You're not gonna

887
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 5: I don't think you're gonna fix it. I think Rico

888
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 5: Dubtell is a good running back. I don't think he's

889
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 5: he's not going to be able to do anything with

890
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: what's around it, right. I think he's a good supplemental guy,

891
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 5: but he's I mean, could Derrick Henry come in here.

892
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: I know everybody talked about that, they wanted him in

893
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 5: the off season. They still would he have even been

894
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 5: made a difference on this team because your offensive line

895
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 5: is the way they are. So I think they're probably

896
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 5: frustrated and there they don't even know what the identity is.

897
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 5: There's no you know, it's not a defensive team. You're

898
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 5: giving up forty points a game when you lose. You're

899
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 5: not a You're not a home team, You're not an

900
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 5: on the road team. You're I mean I don't think

901
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 5: you have one, and I don't know if they're going

902
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 5: to figure it out. I don't This may just be

903
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 5: one of those years where it's like, let's just get

904
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 5: through the year, right, Let's just get from game to game.

905
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 5: And because I think what makes this year different and

906
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 5: feels different as from a fans perspective, is every other

907
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 5: year there were things that were wrong and you had hope.

908
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 5: I think this year, I don't know if there's any

909
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 5: hope right now. I think it's like it is what

910
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 5: it is. And you know, even when you say, well,

911
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 5: when Micah comes back and when Tank comes back, and

912
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 5: like years probably fixed, they're not fixed right in the past,

913
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 5: you would think like that's gonna make a difference. And

914
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 5: I feel like the fans probably feel like there's a

915
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 5: lot more going on. Like you said, there's foundational things,

916
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 5: and what have caused those I don't know. But even

917
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 5: when the guys, like you said, when they go and

918
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 5: they talk after the game, I think they're looking for answers,

919
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 5: they're trying to figure out what the identity is. So

920
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 5: you know, there's just a lot a lot of questions, man,

921
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 5: this early in the season. That's the thing. Six games

922
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: in and you're life. You know what's what's next. And

923
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 5: I think going out, you have to play a good

924
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 5: game against San Francisco or you're gonna lose the team,

925
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 5: You're gonna lose the fan base. You're I mean, you

926
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 5: may not even you may not win, but you can't

927
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 5: do what you did against Detroit because I mean, then

928
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 5: these shows aren't going to be any fun. Like you know,

929
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 5: we're gonna be talking about you know, dating apps and

930
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 5: upside down pineapples. So I mean, you know, what, what

931
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 5: do you guys think? And anybody feel free to jump

932
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 5: in on this one. What what do they have to do? Well,

933
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 5: let me ask you guys this. Do you guys feel

934
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 5: like the seasons? I mean, anything can happen in the NFL. Right,

935
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 5: We've seen a year every year there's a team that

936
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 5: starts off terrible and they come on strong at the

937
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 5: end of the year and they figured out, Yes, you

938
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 5: could do that. You have the tools to do that, right,

939
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 5: you just have to figure out how things work. And

940
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 5: you know, hopefully those guys are still plugging away and

941
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 5: they feel that way. So anything can happen in the NFL.

942
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 5: You can get hot. Look at the Giants at the

943
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 5: end of the year when they won the Super Bowl.

944
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 5: They ripped off you know, five six wins at the

945
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 5: end of the season and won the Super Bowl. They

946
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 5: were bad during the year. So nothing's beyond you know,

947
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 5: being possible. But do you feel like the season is

948
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 5: lost or do you think they can You said your

949
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 5: your ceiling is getting to the playoffs now right, do

950
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 5: you think that's attainable or are you kind of like

951
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 5: that's pie in the sky tight?

952
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 7: Now? I think it's attainable. I think it's a table

953
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 7: to get to the playoffs. You still have really talented

954
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 7: players on this team. You have a Dak Prescott, a

955
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 7: CD Lamb of Michael Parsons when he comes back, which

956
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 7: I assume will be in San Francisco. You have guys

957
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 7: on both sides of the ball, all three phases. If

958
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 7: you want to count in Brandon Aubrey, that can win

959
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 7: you ball games and that can step up and be

960
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 7: able to be that guy whenever they need one guy.

961
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: To step up.

962
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 7: Eventually the talent is going to show up, and we

963
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 7: haven't necessarily seen it so far. Even in their wins.

964
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 7: It's been more of a cumulative effort, whereas in years past.

965
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 7: You could point at, Hey, that was the Mica game.

966
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 7: Hey that was the CD game, the Detroit game last

967
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 7: year was the CD game. You could look at a

968
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 7: DAK game. We haven't seen any of those so far.

969
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 7: Those games will come. I'm confident in that I think

970
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 7: there is still talent on this team. But I think

971
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 7: from an overall perspective, whenever you look at the twenty

972
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 7: three to fifty three on this roster, I don't think

973
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 7: there's enough there to lead me to believe that this

974
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 7: can be a team we look at in late January

975
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 7: that's still playing.

976
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 5: So the depth, to you is what's causing a lot

977
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 5: of this is when you lose your key role players,

978
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 5: there's not the depth and the quality of depth to back.

979
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's just a lot of young players that

980
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 7: are that are getting these reps and eventually that will

981
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 7: pay off down the line. You know, these young players

982
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 7: getting this this type of time and experience young in

983
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 7: their career, it's gonna help, but not this season. You know,

984
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 7: I think this season it's it's taking the learning curve

985
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 7: and understanding that that will you know, read the rewards

986
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 7: in future seasons, but as of right now, you need

987
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 7: that one to twenty two.

988
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: Back healthy, Let me let me cook for a second.

989
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: Does this feel in a way? You know in high school?

990
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: You you you study hard, you're getting ready to graduate,

991
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: you know, Freshman year, I know, sorry, senior year, senior year.

992
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: She's the only one with a book in front of it.

993
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: I believe it.

994
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: I believe it.

995
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: It's all about to come to an end senior year.

996
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: And there's a little thing called senioritis when you have

997
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: a coaching staff that is on the final year of

998
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: their contracts. Difference. I wasn't getting paid my senior year

999
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: of high school. That's fair that there are millions of dollars, millions.

1000
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 7: Of dollars with the threat of not having that money

1001
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 7: come back if I didn't do a good job that

1002
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 7: senior year.

1003
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: But that's fair. But I think at least with the

1004
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: players around you, you know what I mean. Do you

1005
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: think the mentality do you think that creeps in a

1006
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: little bit where it's like, of course it does. It's

1007
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: coming to an end here, guys. You know, I think for.

1008
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 6: The players and how they feel about McCarthy.

1009
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 5: I don't want to say that.

1010
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to say that explicitly, but I'm saying,

1011
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: is that even a fact. I don't think it is.

1012
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: I really don't.

1013
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 6: I don't think it is among the players who matter.

1014
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 8: I think obviously there are just gonna be some some

1015
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 8: guys who, like like you mentioned the twenty three through

1016
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 8: fifty three, there'll be a few among them who and

1017
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 8: it wouldn't even have anything to do with McCarthy. That

1018
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 8: just might be the attitude that they have in general.

1019
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 8: But I feel like when it comes to players, they

1020
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 8: play for their pride, they play for their future contracts,

1021
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 8: they play for their incentives. They there's a lot of

1022
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 8: guys on the team who don't seem to end joy losing.

1023
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 8: So I just don't see them being like, oh, well,

1024
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 8: there's gonna be a new system next season.

1025
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: So I think there's no guarantee that.

1026
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 5: I think for the exact reasons of what you just said,

1027
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 5: there is some of that. They're playing for their contracts,

1028
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 5: they're playing for their incentives, they're playing for that next contract.

1029
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 5: I know most of you guys aren't gonna be here,

1030
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 5: So if I can freelance a little bit to get

1031
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 5: my numbers up and get good tape out there and

1032
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 5: do something, you're not gonna be here to tell me

1033
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 5: what to do next year anyway, So I'm gonna get

1034
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 5: my money, like I'm gonna pull out some good tape.

1035
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 5: I don't think there's a lot of that, but I.

1036
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: Think they're on the same page with me a little

1037
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: bit that that's kind of where I'm getting at. I'm

1038
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: definitely don't.

1039
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 5: Think anybody is out to get coach McCarthy, like we're

1040
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 5: gonna sabbotelage him and do that. But I do think

1041
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 5: there's a little bit of Okay, I'm gonna get mine

1042
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 5: because this might not be around me next year and

1043
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 5: I don't have to answer you know, I'm not gonna

1044
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 5: have to answer this. There's gonna be a new system

1045
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 5: in place, and so I'm gonna do what I can do.

1046
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel quish apathy in that respect.

1047
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 5: Personal great question.

1048
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's set in yet. I think if

1049
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: it does, it'll look up.

1050
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 7: We'll look up after Thanksgiving, and if this team is,

1051
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 7: you know, at the bottom of the ocean, then.

1052
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: That's that's way you start to see that happen.

1053
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 5: How bad is let's don't even talk about that. Well,

1054
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 5: it looks like it does now without appat you imagine

1055
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 5: what it would look like with that.

1056
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: And to your questions, this is something that Nate Newton

1057
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: told me last year when I was first starting with

1058
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, was that you don't really know who a

1059
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: team is until Thanksgiving. So that has sucked with me

1060
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: since because I kind of had a better idea of

1061
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: who the team was last Thanksgiving and now I'm kind

1062
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: of waiting for that. I don't think the season is

1063
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: lost by any means, speaking of speaking of right there

1064
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: respect more than anyone, and he has different feelings for me.

1065
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 5: But late.

1066
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: What's going out. Let's going out.

1067
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 6: To people.

1068
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 5: I ain't trying to brag.

1069
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 6: We need the hand most. We are the number one.

1070
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 5: View Oh Josh just told me somebody cooked the numbers.

1071
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 5: We had two more shows than anybody.

1072
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: Else last it was more like three buttons. All right, yeah,

1073
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: that's all right. That's why we're number one. I got

1074
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: more views and all the other shows that you rosters,

1075
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: we're still number one. You have the same you have

1076
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: the same olds. It's entire time, last seven years. You

1077
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They're familiar with you guys.

1078
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 5: That's all right, Just so you know, Nate Newton and

1079
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 5: Jesse Holly just walked in the studio. They are on

1080
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 5: the player's lounge next right after it. Normally, no, we

1081
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 5: have we have a little great speriod, we have a

1082
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 5: little thanks.

1083
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Jazz for the terrible.

1084
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 5: These jokers, thanks for stopping by. Miss y'all. What was

1085
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 5: your point?

1086
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 8: Sorry, I was just gonna say for me, I agree

1087
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Speaker 8: with you all that this season is not over. I

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Speaker 8: think I've been I've been trying not to look at

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Speaker 8: this as a movie that sucks and more like a

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Speaker 8: series that like left us at a midseason cliffhanger. Yes,

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Speaker 8: like they're going into the bye week and Noah doesn't

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Speaker 8: feel like they're saying the right things. But we have

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Speaker 8: seen examples of a lot of these guys performing a

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Speaker 8: lot better than we saw against the lines. If they

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Speaker 8: can do something to harness whatever got them to those points,

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Speaker 8: then maybe there's a little bit of hope. There's a

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Speaker 8: lot of stories that need to be told here. Like

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Speaker 8: there's a story of Dak Prescott as a leader who's

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Speaker 8: trying to, you know, navigate this situation with this unmotivated,

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Speaker 8: well seemingly unmotivated offense. There's a story of Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 8: getting paid and people expecting him to show up as

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Speaker 8: a leader, and some people in the locker room saying

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Speaker 8: he's the leader, but people not really seeing it. There's

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Speaker 8: all these guys on defense, Like who knows what kind

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Speaker 8: of perspective Michael Parsons and d Law might come back

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Speaker 8: with after like looking at the team more so from

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Speaker 8: the outside looking in, and how that might impact their

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Speaker 8: role on the team. We've got the whole situation with

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Speaker 8: the running back room and how are they gonna get

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Speaker 8: on the same page. Like, I mean, the offensive line

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Speaker 8: is a whole soap opera within itself. Like I just

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Speaker 8: feel like there's a lot of stories to be told here,

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Speaker 8: and depending on how each of the stories goes, that's

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Speaker 8: what's going to determine how this season goes. So it's

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Speaker 8: like it's not like there's like one thing that's going

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Speaker 8: to be the thing. I feel like there's each Each

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Speaker 8: person has an opportunity right now to do something different

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Speaker 8: that can impact the rest of the season. And I

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Speaker 8: feel like if you get most people going in the

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Speaker 8: right direction, then the team will go in the right direction.

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Speaker 5: I like it, and don't lose hope. There is hope

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Speaker 5: because if you look at the standings right now, six

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Speaker 5: weeks in. There are teams in the very bottom of

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Speaker 5: their divisions that are going to turn it around and

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Speaker 5: they're going to be at the top, and there's ones

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Speaker 5: that are at the top that are going to be

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Speaker 5: at the bottom. I have every year in the NFL. It

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Speaker 5: just feels really the no identity part. You don't have

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Speaker 5: anything to cling on to, and it feels a little hopeless.

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Speaker 5: So but what's not hopeless is this show because guess what,

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Speaker 5: we will be back tomorrow doing the same show at

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Speaker 5: the same time.

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Speaker 1: Six less Pro Bowls, but we'll be here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, in three Super Bowl Championships less, but

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Speaker 5: we'll be here. So thank you. This was awesome, nice

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Speaker 5: hanging out with you, Jazz YouTube, Nick, what was your name.

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Speaker 1: Again, Josh Josh, Thanks, thanks for the shure.

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Speaker 5: You're welcome man, Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air. Josh,

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Speaker 5: you're not in the back anymore, Jazz, thanks for keeping

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Speaker 5: Chris company in the back. And Jesse. Jesse was back

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Speaker 5: there today. We will be back tomorrow, same time, the

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Speaker 5: same place. On Hanging with the Boys, it's just been

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