1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: There's more than one way to skin the cat of etymology, 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: it's one more thing. I'm strong, and one more thing. 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: So first, Joe used the disgusting phrase more than one 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: way to skin a cat, which we got off on 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: wondering where that comes from, and a whole bunch of 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: people texted, it's catfish, it's the way to skin catfish. 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: That mayn't be true. That may not be I even 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: looked it up. And even if I look it up 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: and find it, that doesn't mean it's accurate because some 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: other website will say something different. That's it within a 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: week anyway, Right, That's been my history of these things. 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: But Joe also used the phrase screwed and tattooed, which 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: I was actually wondering about somewhat and apparently the actual phrases, 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: and I've heard this before screwed, ballued, and tattooed. 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 2: Please tell me this is not horrifying because I used it, 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: you know on the r it can be any of it. 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: At least three things. Where this came from? This this. 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: So blued, that's grammatically incorrect. 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Well on this one, it's it came from ship's mechanics, 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: tighten all parts and screws use bluing to stain the metal, 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: which is something you do, put an inspection mark through 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: the blue paint with a tool, and to tattoo the 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: part to show that it has been taken care of. 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: Screwed blue, its completely taken. 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Care of, right, or it could be this. Before shipping 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: out from a foreign port, call a sailor would see 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: a local working girl. That would be the screwed portion 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: of the conversation. After that he'd dress in his navy 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: blue uniform to head back to the ship. Then he'd 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: get another tattoo to remember where he had been. 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: Okay, bullshit on that one, but it's charming anyway. 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe that one. And then 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: also the one. 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: Tane charming, you know, including the hooker and everything, but 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: at least I don't know. 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: So apparently back in the day, and again this is 37 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: yet another version of this. Back in the day in 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: the Navy, you would take a mercury pill, which was 39 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: a blue pill, to treat the syphilis you got while 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: you were in you know, in town, while you're doctor 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: or whatever. So you got screwed, you got syphilis, you 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: got blued. With the medicine to treat the syphilis, and 43 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: then you'd show your ship's tattoo to avoid being pressed 44 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: into service on another ship to get out of town. 45 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: Huh. I feel like it almost feels like a game show, Katie, 46 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: doesn't it. 47 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go with answer A. I think the 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: first one sounds the most legit out of those three. 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: Uh i uh. I find it interesting that there are 51 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of words and phrases that we use because 52 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: we know what we know what you're trying to say 53 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: with them. But like the origin will turn out to 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: be very very different or whatever. It doesn't make any difference. 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any difference. If it's being it's 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: been used for the last fifty years to communicate a 57 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: certain thing, what difference does the origin make at that point? 58 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Does it make any difference? 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: It's it's interesting, I'm charming, but no, it means what 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: it means currently. Yeah, it's like the whole idiotic BLM. 61 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: And again you have to remember all of that crap 62 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: was fake. It was designed to overthrow the powers that 63 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: be in Western civilization. So the idea that you couldn't 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: use the term picnic, it was just an effort to 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: get you to obey them anyway, just to they are 66 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: calling the shots. They will tell you what you can 67 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: say and what you can't say. The idea was to 68 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: get you on your heels anyway. I came across another 69 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: list of. 70 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: Possibilities of what it might mean. 71 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: Well, it's like funny, a common one we got. We 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time on this. Some politician used 73 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: the term, I think balls to the walls, and then 74 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: people were horrified about it, and then everybody got into 75 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: the etymology of that, and then some of them it was, 76 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, sexual, and some of them it was mechanical. Mare. 77 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: It's all kinds of different, had to do with trains 78 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: or planes or whatever. It wasn't sexual at all, right. 79 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: Or yeah, I can't remember what it was, but it wasn't. 80 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: It was completely not sexual. 81 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you have any look on skinning a cat there, Katie, 82 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: Now not yet. Well, we got a bunch of texts 83 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: on that pole cat, which is a raccoon, is often 84 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: referred to as a cat, and you did skin raccoons 85 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: because the fur trade was a really big deal. Yeah, 86 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: so that could Yeah, that's probably where it came from, 87 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: probably eighteen hundreds, you know, of fur traders. 88 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: But again to your point, using that expression doesn't mean 89 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: you're soft on raccoon skinning or fur in general, or. 90 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: Know anything about the multiple ways to get the hide 91 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: off of raccoon, right exactly. 92 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: It's it's irrelevant to say, you know, that's actually an 93 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: expression that means, you know, that's interesting, but just quit 94 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: with It's that weird presentism thing, you know. 95 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's another form of that. 96 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: It's just a fake, annoying way to show moral superiority. 97 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: So there was an editor's note on one of these 98 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: that said sybilist is actually incurable and mercury will not help. 99 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: But it was believed at the time that it was 100 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: well certainly still incurable. 101 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: No, no, you can cure it with antibiotics unless it 102 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: goes too far. 103 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: Why does Katie? Why does Joon know so much about 104 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious myself there, Joe. I don't actually 105 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: know if syphilis is like a common current one or 106 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: if it's an old timy one. Is it a common one? Yeah? 107 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, Yeah, I don't. 108 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: Know for all yours. 109 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: I'm telling you. I tell you what. 110 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: By the third time I got the treatment, I could 111 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: have done it myself. 112 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: I said, I can give me the needle, had your miroscope, 113 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: and you'd put a little sample under there. A lot 114 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: looks like simphle, it's again, diy, Oh my goodness, hey. 115 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: Honey, syphiliss again. 116 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: I used to work the venereal disease desk the Armstrong 117 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: and Getdy Show. I remember, especially when we were just 118 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: a local show in northern California. The statistics would come 119 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: out every year, and you know, upsurges in gonna rhea 120 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: and syphilis or whatever in the state of California. Some 121 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: department put out a report and I'd always bring it. 122 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: Up, see how the state's doing. Hey, gotta rea down, 123 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: but syphilis up? 124 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: Folks? 125 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: Where that condom? Come on? 126 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: Now? 127 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: I've never understood how old time the Old West prostitution worked. 128 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: It's just I don't know. It's pre condom. I just 129 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: what was going on there? 130 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: Well, they had condoms preest before the modern. 131 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: Using them. 132 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. I wasn't there they were. 133 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't actually know. But like when you watch those 134 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: old timey Westerns and everybody's kind of just joking about 135 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: going upstairs with the local harlet, it's gotta be disgusting. 136 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: Nobody shower abortions, abortions, and and and VD. 137 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: Well and just just being grossly dirty. In addition to 138 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: all that, it's just ah. 139 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: Well, they had water. You could take a bath. You've 140 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: seen the Westerns where you lay there in the. 141 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Like once a month after a cattle drive or something. 142 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: Put as long as it's before the sex. 143 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: And how long since? When did she take her the 144 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: most recent bath? 145 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, ask her. Besides, we did a syphilis soon, 146 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: don't worry about it. 147 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: Here's a fun fact. In the late eighteenth cent made 148 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: out of sheep guts, condoms were soaked for a couple 149 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: of hours and then made to have them be pliable afterwards, 150 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 4: and then they would put a ribbon at the end of. 151 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: Its especially for the holidays. 152 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: Santa hat. Another possibility 153 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: Old timey condoms like great stocking stuff for well, I 154 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: guess that's it.