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The Colin Coward Podcast 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:54.480 presented by the Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi everybody, and 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:59.640 welcome in to the Wednesday Morning Podcast. Now. Usually I 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.520 have eight to ten to twelve minute preamble on a 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.200 variety of sports topics. But since we have Adam Corolla 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:07.840 on today and he's going to take a good thirty 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.000 forty five minutes, I don't want to waste anybody's time. 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.839 He's the host of the podcast The Adam Corolla Show. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.920 He was one of the first big podcasts in this industry, 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.600 you know, and from The Man Show. He has a 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.080 book out. His latest book is Everything Reminds Me of 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:27.039 something advice answers, but no apologies. And with that we 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:34.280 bring in the world renowned Adam Carolla. So, Adam, I'm 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.399 gonna give you my take, my ninety second take on 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.640 Will Smith, and then you slice it, dice it, do 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.560 whatever you want with it. As a stand up comedian, 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.759 as somebody who's on stage, you tell me where I'm 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.560 wrong on this. So I'm agnostic. So I don't speak 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:54.120 about religion. But there's a certain reality for the mobster 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.279 who goes to repent his sins on Sunday then shoots 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.920 the guy in front of a steakhouse on Thursday nights, 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.920 not fooling God right like he's fooling himself. The Hollywood 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.720 athlete or the athlete, or the Hollywood act or the 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:12.119 leading man, they've all got side dishes right multiple when 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.480 they come out. And I'm not speaking specifically to Will, 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.880 but you know, leading man and athletes, there are no 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.200 industries where men cheat more than those two. They use 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.320 their power in the leverage to gain access to beautiful women. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.800 I saw a lot of takes from athletes current former, 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.040 a lot of leading men types, big tough guys saying, hey, 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.799 you got to protect your woman and I'm like, no, no, 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.560 Like the mobster who shoots the guy in front of 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:43.560 a steakhouse, You're not fooling anybody but yourself. If you 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.359 cared about the woman in your life, you wouldn't be 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.040 fucking around all the time. This is about your ego, 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.480 which you couldn't subjugate because your wife cheated on you. 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.760 It's very public, and in this moment you look small. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.880 This was not about your wife. This was about your ego. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.200 Take a well. Also, there's a context. You know, you're 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.280 going to be in show business. You're gonna sit in 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:09.840 the front seat of the Oscars. I've written for two Oscars. 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.960 I've been there. You know. The process is you show 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.679 up days before and they have the pictures of all 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.440 the celebrities and where they're sitting. By the way, always 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.239 in black and white. I always thought to myself, this 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.919 is the Oscars. You can't afford a color ink cartridge. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.880 But they can't. It's black and white, and by the way, 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.519 some of the older guys and some of the other guys, 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.240 you have to look at it for a while before 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.240 you can realize just who that is. But anyway, so 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.760 there's a context. Your front seat of the Oscars and 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.080 here comes Chris Rock and it is his job to 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:49.680 roast notable people that are sitting up front. So this 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:54.520 essentially it's like marrying a porn star, going to the 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.760 set of the porn movie and then freaking out because 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.680 someone's your wife. You you knew the job was dangerous 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.280 when you took it. There's a context. Chris Rock didn't 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.600 show up to your home and start making fun of 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.560 your wife. You sat in the very front seat of 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:15.200 the Oscars. He's a comic, He's gonna roast. That's your context. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:18.560 It shouldn't elicit that kind of response. Adam, I go 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.520 to you her most of Beach Comedy Store. I've gone, 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:25.120 you know, down on Sunset West Sunset. So I've had 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.080 friends that are comedy writers. I've talked to Leno. You know, 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.839 when I was a kid, I wanted to be Johnny Carson. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:30.960 Like a lot of kids, I didn't want to be 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.440 a sportscast or. I I didn't even know what it meant. 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.880 Just wasn't talented enough. So I went into sports lower 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.920 bar for that probably. So one of the things I've 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:43.359 noticed about the great comedians, They've got a set, but 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.520 they played with the crowd, they interact with the crowd. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.240 I don't think somebody said it's not as scripted. It 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.320 wasn't scripted. It was you look at her. You have 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.680 a line. By the way, g I Jane was sort 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.200 of an empowered woman, right, she was like a powerful, 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:01.720 successful woman. So in that instance, I think Jesus, if 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:06.479 you tell comedians they can't add lib in the biggest 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:11.080 stage in the industry, the Oscars, what are we doing here? Yeah, 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.520 I disagree, just because I've been behind the curtain there 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:18.520 a couple of times. It probably wasn't ad libbed. It 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:23.680 could have been quickly thought of backstage or at some 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.960 previous point, but it probably wasn't ad libbed. And that 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:33.200 you get writing assignments. It's like here's here's gonna be 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.360 sitting here and this person's gonna be there, and they'll 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.760 go give me a few jokes for this person, and 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.920 give me a few jokes for that person. So probably 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:47.039 wasn't off the cuff. Regardless whether it's off the cuff 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.240 or not, you're on stage, you're telling the joke. There's 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.479 no barrier between you and the audience, and sort of 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.039 taking the law into your own hands is not a 0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:00.360 good precedent. Speaking of the law, I literally just got 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:04.000 done doing a podcast with Attorney Mark Garrigos. And as 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:09.640 far as the law goes, if Chris Rock doesn't want 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:14.600 to press charges and there was no damage done to him, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.440 then the law is going to leave it alone, unless 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.560 you have some prosecutor who's looking for a bunch of 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.760 publicity who would like to take this on. Is really 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.960 a grand stand type type trial? What would you do 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.599 if I was the prosecutor. No, if you were Chris Rock, 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.279 we are a bigger, stronger you. You're a former boxer. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.840 I think you're something right. Yeah, well, first off, I'd 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:44.039 be so surprised that I don't know what I would do. Like, 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:48.360 it's hard to fathom. Chris's brain must have been whirling 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.400 like a dervish, not only from the slap, but just 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:56.840 from the bizarre context of the whole thing. Right, I 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.840 probably would have done what he did. I probably would 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:04.440 have just sort of carried on. Now, what I was 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.320 hoping for is that they would escort will Smith out 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.400 of the building and then later on, when he won 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:15.640 the Academy Award, Chris Rock would accept it on his behalf. 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:21.160 That's interesting. It was the greatest TV ever. Well, I 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:25.560 don't have a problem with Will Smith confronting Chris after right, 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.400 Like right, I just think, keep your hands to yourself. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.400 It's a public space, you know, let your ego go. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:38.080 Um how much of this Like I was kind of 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:43.040 not kind of I was totally turned off that the 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:48.840 Hollywood set like not only defended Will Smith, gave him 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:53.760 a standing ovation. Yeah, we'll turn off. Yeah, we've been 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:58.920 setting the table for this. Remember a couple of years 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.480 ago when the defensive end for the Browns took his 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.040 helmet off and started swing Miles Garrett started swinging it 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:10.040 around at the Pittsburgh QB. And remember the kind of 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.880 consensus was, well, he dropped an end bomb or said 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.240 something racially insensitive, and then people kind of went, oh, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.960 is that what happened? And I was the one saying, 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.679 you're still not allowed to put someone in a coma 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.720 with your helmet because they said something. So we've kind 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.920 of set the table here. It's been it's been around 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.840 for a few years where somebody said, you know, the 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.800 guy behind the counter tried to choke the person at 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.280 the taco bell and they go, what happened, Oh, he 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:43.080 said something racial and then everyone's ractionalist. Oh okay, well, 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.439 now I guess it's okay. No, it is not okay. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.560 I don't care what they say. I don't get if 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.400 it's a joke about your wife. I don't care if 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.240 it's Miles Garrett hearing something he doesn't want to hear 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.440 in a scrum. You don't get to weaponize your helmet. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.719 You don't get to weaponize your hand. This is our 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.080 sort of societal problem. It's like that person put his 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.360 hands on the other person, and then we all go, oh, 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.840 what did that person say. I don't care what that 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:10.240 person said. You can't put your hands on people. Do 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.920 you still do a lot of stand up right? Yes, 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.640 you drive a lot of revenue and podcasting that we 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.120 all know. I figured you drive a lot of revenue 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.679 in your stand up, which you're very active. Do you 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.920 worry now this incentivizes some idiot for Miller lights in 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:29.199 the heck? Are you? I have little to no regard 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.719 for my own personal safety. I've just always kind of 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.559 been wired that way. It's never a thing for me. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.200 I've been in fights, I used to teach boxing. I 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.320 just don't have a fear for my own personal safety. 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.880 But you know, Jeff Ross does, and so he's gonna 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.720 have to think about it when he goes up on stage. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:52.240 I am wired from where I come from and work 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.120 in construction and ride a motorcycle getting in fights, you know, 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.440 teaching boxing and stuff like that. I just don't have 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.920 that sure. Oh you know what could happen, And it 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.400 doesn't mean it won't. It certainly is kind of greased 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:09.160 the skids for that behavior, and I won't. It won't 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.280 be in the back of my head when I perform. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.760 What's your guests? On the repercussions for Will Smith, he 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.880 apologized that was fairly obvious. I mean that you can 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.280 see that that right hand Jerry Cory hook coming from 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:26.679 an hour away. But what do you think the repercussions are? Um, 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.199 I don't think anything. I think they gave him a 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:34.800 standing ovation. Forty minutes later, the OSCARS has made some 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:39.040 discussion about, you know, taking his oscar back or sanctions 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.680 or you know, giving him the Kanye West treatment for 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:48.760 the next Oscars or something. I suspect nothing. We don't 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:53.199 seem to universally condemned that behavior. We feel a little 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:57.160 more the nation is kind of split, sadly on it. 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.560 It seems pretty pretty cut and dry to me. But 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:04.640 it's also like I remember talking to people during the 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.280 summer and all the riots and all the BLM marches 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.520 and a lot of when stuff got when stuff got nasty, 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.760 And you know, someone would say to me, did you 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.240 see those those cops in New York? They rammed right 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.720 into those protesters, And I'd go, no, let me see 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.600 that tape. And the tape was a bunch of idiots 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.960 on the hood of a cop car, jumping up and 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.080 down and try to kick out the windshield. And then 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.200 the cop car lurches forward and the guys fall off 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.720 the hood, and I'm like, that's not a cop car 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.960 ramming protesters. That's a bunch of jackasses jumping on the 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.920 hood of a cop car and trying to kick out 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:48.760 the windshield. So we've gotten this weird relationship with violence 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.640 and actions. You know, it's a mostly peaceful protest. As 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:57.480 the CVS pharmacy burns behind you, you know, something happened 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:02.800 where we And then we also went the other direction too, 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.360 like did you see Al Franken assaulted that woman on 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.760 the C one thirty cargo play And it's like he 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.440 took a goofy picture with his hands outside of her 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.440 flat jacket. That's not assault. He didn't assault anyway. So 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:17.480 we've taken this thing called assault and we've twisted it, 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:21.480 morphed it, and sort of politicized it and used it 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.160 so that if we didn't like Al Franken, then what 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.760 he did was assault, but if we didn't like the cops, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.280 and what they did wasn't assault when people were trying 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:39.080 to assault them. 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In West Virginia, 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:13.800 you know David Spade reacted today when somebody pushed back 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.760 and said, hey, what about Jada Pinkett. She has this um, 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:22.320 you know disease which is fairly common, actually inability to 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.560 grow hair, And David Spade said, yeah, I don't have 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:28.560 a medical chart for everybody in the audience. I'm sorry. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:33.200 That goes back to my point, what's what's funny? What? 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.760 Ricky Gervaise can be really sharp, but then there's stuff 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.000 that can be mean. As a comedian, do you know 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.920 instantly when a joke has written that's over the line 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.000 or is it something? Do you go into shows Adam, 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.640 especially if you don't write all the material and think, man, 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:49.480 I don't know how this, I don't know how this 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:54.720 is gonna play. I write all my own material, and 0:14:54.920 --> 0:15:00.080 if it's funny to me and then it's funny, I 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.920 will say it and I will do it. I will 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:07.320 perform it. Now. The question in my mind now is 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:12.479 I know it's funny, but we'll see how the audience reacts, 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:17.040 because they don't always feel comfortable laughing now. So there's 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:21.880 a kind of a third element to this, which is 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.360 I think it's funny, I will deliver it in a 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:30.640 funny way, But we don't know if that audience is 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.880 going to have a comfort level with it because they 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.760 heard certain words that were in it that sort of 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:43.440 made them recoil a little bit. Like I'll never forget. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.720 I was. I'm a car guy, and I was down 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:51.640 at the Pebble Beach Car Weekend Race weekend do vintage 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:56.520 racing there and sitting at this event, and it was 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.560 one of those big events where there's a whole bunch 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.240 of different people and it's outdoors and you end up 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.240 sharing a table with other couples, and you know, you're 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.600 sitting there with your food and your drinks and you're talking. 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.600 You're meeting these other couples, and everyone's a car guy. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.000 So the guy goes off on some car he has, 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.920 like I have a thirty two Dusenberg, and then the 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.240 other guy's going, I have a Chord and the other 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:24.360 guy's going, I have a Lamborghini Mura, you know. And 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.600 we're talking about restoring the cars and getting more champagne 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.680 and things of that nature and caviar. And at some 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.320 point I stopped and I said, you know what, this 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:40.520 conversation we're having here is exactly what black people think 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.360 white people do all day. And one of the women 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.600 at the table went like, okay, all right, no no, no, no, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.120 no no, and I said, no, I'm just making it. Okay, 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:51.840 we heard you, we heard you, we heard you. And 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.640 I was like, I'm making fun of us basically, right, 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.000 but I'm not making fun of black people, and I'm 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:00.880 making a joke. It's just like, yeah, we heard you, 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:04.760 we heard Please stop. I was like, people are so 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.240 hair triggered now that if they just hear a topic, 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.879 they're already like, oh, can I clapp can? I laughed, 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.080 I have to tell them the stub. She nervously wanted 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:18.400 me to stop, which I didn't. But but I think 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.320 that's where the comedian and the sportscaster, that's where it 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:26.240 kind of it connects, right, Like we're both performers and 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.600 we're both giving kind of a social commentary and sometimes 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:35.520 intent isn't considered, like you were being self deprecating, and yes, 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:40.000 it made people uncomfortable. I thought about this Adam athletes 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:42.800 in my twenty five years of doing this, or thick 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.479 skinned Why because you can have great connections, but they 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.040 have limitations. If you can't hit the ball, catch the ball, 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.520 throw the ball. Make the tackle, you lose your spot 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:56.440 in the team. Also, athletes deal with very punitive media 0:17:56.520 --> 0:18:01.640 and fans holding them accountable. Hollywood is different connections. It's 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:06.199 very subjective. Unlike sports, it's very subjective. Connections can have 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:10.760 an odd leverage for people. That's why you see, like 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:15.359 families that act, the media is fawning. I mean you 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.960 almost you never see anybody on the red carpet ever 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.239 have a critical word. You're beautiful, your outfits beautiful. Tell 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.600 me more about how beautiful you are. And so whereas 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.200 athletes have thick skin, they get heckled, they get ripped, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.719 Hollywood doesn't. And I think a lot of that is 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.440 it's an entitled business with a fawning press. Often people 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.680 didn't earn their way in. It was family connections, and 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.080 that's why I think a lot of people cheered Will Smith. 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.720 How dare somebody make fun of us? Now? I'm just 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.919 a layman, right like, I don't even know actors, but 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:51.640 part of me thinks this is what Hollywood is. Out 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.760 of touch with reality. Many careers are not earned. That 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.600 is not to say Ed Norton and Don Cheetle aren't brilliant, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.720 but as somebody who covers. Athletes are overwhelmingly thick skinned, 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.560 grateful of shit, incredibly humble, they really are. I mean, 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.679 it's incredible how grateful athletes are. I don't feel like 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:14.399 Hollywood is. And maybe it's the tunnel where they arrived 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:20.840 at their career. It's not built for grateful, humble people. Well, 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:25.520 it's obviously built for narcissists. So you you know, make 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.000 the proclamation that you should be up on the silver 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.159 screen and you should be holding the microphone and the 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.280 great order order in front of all the audience. So 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.160 you know, it's sort of you know, it's a self 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.040 selecting group. You know, you have to think you're pretty 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.200 good looking and pretty smart and have something to say, 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:44.200 and other people should hear what you have to say, 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:48.960 and so it attracts the narcissists. And then the other 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.760 thing about the athlete is you were saying that, you know, 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:58.640 athletes have pretty short careers career wise. I mean, I 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.359 started in show business, I didn't get my first I 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.520 didn't make my first nickel until I was thirty one. 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:10.480 Most athletes are retiring around thirty one, so it's a 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:15.359 totally different world. And when it comes to actors, you 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.880 know how many stories have you heard, Oh, this guy 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.560 was originally the guy they wanted to play James Bond, 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:22.840 and then they got this guy to play James Bond, 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.520 and they wanted to make this guy and this role. 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.919 Can you imagine if that guy played this role, this 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:33.880 role play, you are not necessary as an actor. There 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:39.800 are a handful of guys that are undeniable, and you 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:45.440 know that Daniel day Lewis is an undeniable talent. There's 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:49.200 about seven of those guys, and then there's two thousand 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:54.280 other guys who need to win a popularity contest. They 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.719 will they will get rid of you if you're not 0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:00.240 on the same page as them politically or whichever way. 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:03.480 The night geis in. The wind is blowing. So imagine 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.919 if you said to the athlete, you know it's not 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.399 all going to be over when you're thirty four. You 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:13.720 can go another thirty years in this athletic endeavor you're doing, 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.919 but you better make friends and you better hope people 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:20.040 like you. And they said, well, what if my fastballs 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.919 not as fast or my forty times not as It's like, no, no, 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:28.200 it's a popularity contest at this point, and you wonder 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.600 why they all magically take the same side of every 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:35.680 issue every single time. It's not because they all individually 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.920 just believe it. Some of these some of these things 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:41.800 that are going on in the in the world, they're 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.320 they're they're they're nuanced there there you maybe you're for 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:47.920 the war in Ukraine, but maybe you're against the US 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.439 involvement in the War of Ukraine. And it is a 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:54.720 thousand other examples how they magically all in lockstep on 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.280 every issue every time because all you have to do 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:05.199 in that group when it comes to an election that 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:09.040 is literally a presidential election which is literally split the 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:12.679 nation and half. You know, he got fifty one percent, 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:14.800 he got forty nine percent, he got fifty and a 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.119 half percent, he got forty nine and a half percent 0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:22.560 of why the nation completely split. There's not one human 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:25.960 being in Hollywood who goes, I'm voted for Trump, because 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:28.600 if you say that, right, then you'll end up with 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:34.520 Scott Baio somewhere right right right. You know, it's a 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:38.679 it's an ongoing it's your senior year of high school 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:42.200 and it never ends, and you're running for prom King 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:49.360 Adam when you I mean everybody now everything is politics, 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:51.600 I mean weather is politics. I was talking to a friend. 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:53.919 I like to ski. There's no ski season and I 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.280 told a friend it's like the ski season now ends 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.440 like March eighth. I'm like, is it global warming? Oh boy? 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:01.680 I get pushedback and I'm like, I don't know. It 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:03.600 just you used to be able to ski till April. 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:05.840 Like the last two years, it feels like it's died. 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:11.120 You are more aggressive politically, and I kind of stay 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.640 away from it mostly because everybody else is doing it, 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.520 and I feel like, you know, ESPN went more heavily 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.360 into it, and I thought it was a business decision. 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.240 To the audience that was turned off by that, I'd 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:27.440 mostly stay on sports and it worked. It helped as 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.480 you pivoted more into politics. Are you glad you did? 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.720 Are you happy you did? Have there been repercussions? Has 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:35.840 it hurt revenue as it helped revenue? Where do you 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:40.280 stand today on that decision? Because I, you know, I 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:46.119 think of your career and I think Man show, huge podcasting, 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.080 and then we a lot of people just got stucked 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.560 into as performers politics because the whole weather became political. 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.320 Sports is political. How do you view it now? If 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.120 you go back five years are you glad you kind 0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:01.280