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Speaker 1: welcome in to the Wednesday Morning Podcast. Now. Usually I
Speaker 1: have eight to ten to twelve minute preamble on a
Speaker 1: variety of sports topics. But since we have Adam Corolla
Speaker 1: on today and he's going to take a good thirty
Speaker 1: forty five minutes, I don't want to waste anybody's time.
Speaker 1: He's the host of the podcast The Adam Corolla Show.
Speaker 1: He was one of the first big podcasts in this industry,
Speaker 1: you know, and from The Man Show. He has a
Speaker 1: book out. His latest book is Everything Reminds Me of
Speaker 1: something advice answers, but no apologies. And with that we
Speaker 1: bring in the world renowned Adam Carolla. So, Adam, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you my take, my ninety second take on
Speaker 1: Will Smith, and then you slice it, dice it, do
Speaker 1: whatever you want with it. As a stand up comedian,
Speaker 1: as somebody who's on stage, you tell me where I'm
Speaker 1: wrong on this. So I'm agnostic. So I don't speak
Speaker 1: about religion. But there's a certain reality for the mobster
Speaker 1: who goes to repent his sins on Sunday then shoots
Speaker 1: the guy in front of a steakhouse on Thursday nights,
Speaker 1: not fooling God right like he's fooling himself. The Hollywood
Speaker 1: athlete or the athlete, or the Hollywood act or the
Speaker 1: leading man, they've all got side dishes right multiple when
Speaker 1: they come out. And I'm not speaking specifically to Will,
Speaker 1: but you know, leading man and athletes, there are no
Speaker 1: industries where men cheat more than those two. They use
Speaker 1: their power in the leverage to gain access to beautiful women.
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of takes from athletes current former,
Speaker 1: a lot of leading men types, big tough guys saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you got to protect your woman and I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 1: Like the mobster who shoots the guy in front of
Speaker 1: a steakhouse, You're not fooling anybody but yourself. If you
Speaker 1: cared about the woman in your life, you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: fucking around all the time. This is about your ego,
Speaker 1: which you couldn't subjugate because your wife cheated on you.
Speaker 1: It's very public, and in this moment you look small.
Speaker 1: This was not about your wife. This was about your ego.
Speaker 1: Take a well. Also, there's a context. You know, you're
Speaker 1: going to be in show business. You're gonna sit in
Speaker 1: the front seat of the Oscars. I've written for two Oscars.
Speaker 1: I've been there. You know. The process is you show
Speaker 1: up days before and they have the pictures of all
Speaker 1: the celebrities and where they're sitting. By the way, always
Speaker 1: in black and white. I always thought to myself, this
Speaker 1: is the Oscars. You can't afford a color ink cartridge.
Speaker 1: But they can't. It's black and white, and by the way,
Speaker 1: some of the older guys and some of the other guys,
Speaker 1: you have to look at it for a while before
Speaker 1: you can realize just who that is. But anyway, so
Speaker 1: there's a context. Your front seat of the Oscars and
Speaker 1: here comes Chris Rock and it is his job to
Speaker 1: roast notable people that are sitting up front. So this
Speaker 1: essentially it's like marrying a porn star, going to the
Speaker 1: set of the porn movie and then freaking out because
Speaker 1: someone's your wife. You you knew the job was dangerous
Speaker 1: when you took it. There's a context. Chris Rock didn't
Speaker 1: show up to your home and start making fun of
Speaker 1: your wife. You sat in the very front seat of
Speaker 1: the Oscars. He's a comic, He's gonna roast. That's your context.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't elicit that kind of response. Adam, I go
Speaker 1: to you her most of Beach Comedy Store. I've gone,
Speaker 1: you know, down on Sunset West Sunset. So I've had
Speaker 1: friends that are comedy writers. I've talked to Leno. You know,
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I wanted to be Johnny Carson.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of kids, I didn't want to be
Speaker 1: a sportscast or. I I didn't even know what it meant.
Speaker 1: Just wasn't talented enough. So I went into sports lower
Speaker 1: bar for that probably. So one of the things I've
Speaker 1: noticed about the great comedians, They've got a set, but
Speaker 1: they played with the crowd, they interact with the crowd.
Speaker 1: I don't think somebody said it's not as scripted. It
Speaker 1: wasn't scripted. It was you look at her. You have
Speaker 1: a line. By the way, g I Jane was sort
Speaker 1: of an empowered woman, right, she was like a powerful,
Speaker 1: successful woman. So in that instance, I think Jesus, if
Speaker 1: you tell comedians they can't add lib in the biggest
Speaker 1: stage in the industry, the Oscars, what are we doing here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I disagree, just because I've been behind the curtain there
Speaker 1: a couple of times. It probably wasn't ad libbed. It
Speaker 1: could have been quickly thought of backstage or at some
Speaker 1: previous point, but it probably wasn't ad libbed. And that
Speaker 1: you get writing assignments. It's like here's here's gonna be
Speaker 1: sitting here and this person's gonna be there, and they'll
Speaker 1: go give me a few jokes for this person, and
Speaker 1: give me a few jokes for that person. So probably
Speaker 1: wasn't off the cuff. Regardless whether it's off the cuff
Speaker 1: or not, you're on stage, you're telling the joke. There's
Speaker 1: no barrier between you and the audience, and sort of
Speaker 1: taking the law into your own hands is not a
Speaker 1: good precedent. Speaking of the law, I literally just got
Speaker 1: done doing a podcast with Attorney Mark Garrigos. And as
Speaker 1: far as the law goes, if Chris Rock doesn't want
Speaker 1: to press charges and there was no damage done to him,
Speaker 1: then the law is going to leave it alone, unless
Speaker 1: you have some prosecutor who's looking for a bunch of
Speaker 1: publicity who would like to take this on. Is really
Speaker 1: a grand stand type type trial? What would you do
Speaker 1: if I was the prosecutor. No, if you were Chris Rock,
Speaker 1: we are a bigger, stronger you. You're a former boxer.
Speaker 1: I think you're something right. Yeah, well, first off, I'd
Speaker 1: be so surprised that I don't know what I would do. Like,
Speaker 1: it's hard to fathom. Chris's brain must have been whirling
Speaker 1: like a dervish, not only from the slap, but just
Speaker 1: from the bizarre context of the whole thing. Right, I
Speaker 1: probably would have done what he did. I probably would
Speaker 1: have just sort of carried on. Now, what I was
Speaker 1: hoping for is that they would escort will Smith out
Speaker 1: of the building and then later on, when he won
Speaker 1: the Academy Award, Chris Rock would accept it on his behalf.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. It was the greatest TV ever. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with Will Smith confronting Chris after right,
Speaker 1: Like right, I just think, keep your hands to yourself.
Speaker 1: It's a public space, you know, let your ego go.
Speaker 1: Um how much of this Like I was kind of
Speaker 1: not kind of I was totally turned off that the
Speaker 1: Hollywood set like not only defended Will Smith, gave him
Speaker 1: a standing ovation. Yeah, we'll turn off. Yeah, we've been
Speaker 1: setting the table for this. Remember a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago when the defensive end for the Browns took his
Speaker 1: helmet off and started swing Miles Garrett started swinging it
Speaker 1: around at the Pittsburgh QB. And remember the kind of
Speaker 1: consensus was, well, he dropped an end bomb or said
Speaker 1: something racially insensitive, and then people kind of went, oh,
Speaker 1: is that what happened? And I was the one saying,
Speaker 1: you're still not allowed to put someone in a coma
Speaker 1: with your helmet because they said something. So we've kind
Speaker 1: of set the table here. It's been it's been around
Speaker 1: for a few years where somebody said, you know, the
Speaker 1: guy behind the counter tried to choke the person at
Speaker 1: the taco bell and they go, what happened, Oh, he
Speaker 1: said something racial and then everyone's ractionalist. Oh okay, well,
Speaker 1: now I guess it's okay. No, it is not okay.
Speaker 1: I don't care what they say. I don't get if
Speaker 1: it's a joke about your wife. I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's Miles Garrett hearing something he doesn't want to hear
Speaker 1: in a scrum. You don't get to weaponize your helmet.
Speaker 1: You don't get to weaponize your hand. This is our
Speaker 1: sort of societal problem. It's like that person put his
Speaker 1: hands on the other person, and then we all go, oh,
Speaker 1: what did that person say. I don't care what that
Speaker 1: person said. You can't put your hands on people. Do
Speaker 1: you still do a lot of stand up right? Yes,
Speaker 1: you drive a lot of revenue and podcasting that we
Speaker 1: all know. I figured you drive a lot of revenue
Speaker 1: in your stand up, which you're very active. Do you
Speaker 1: worry now this incentivizes some idiot for Miller lights in
Speaker 1: the heck? Are you? I have little to no regard
Speaker 1: for my own personal safety. I've just always kind of
Speaker 1: been wired that way. It's never a thing for me.
Speaker 1: I've been in fights, I used to teach boxing. I
Speaker 1: just don't have a fear for my own personal safety.
Speaker 1: But you know, Jeff Ross does, and so he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to think about it when he goes up on stage.
Speaker 1: I am wired from where I come from and work
Speaker 1: in construction and ride a motorcycle getting in fights, you know,
Speaker 1: teaching boxing and stuff like that. I just don't have
Speaker 1: that sure. Oh you know what could happen, And it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it won't. It certainly is kind of greased
Speaker 1: the skids for that behavior, and I won't. It won't
Speaker 1: be in the back of my head when I perform.
Speaker 1: What's your guests? On the repercussions for Will Smith, he
Speaker 1: apologized that was fairly obvious. I mean that you can
Speaker 1: see that that right hand Jerry Cory hook coming from
Speaker 1: an hour away. But what do you think the repercussions are? Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think anything. I think they gave him a
Speaker 1: standing ovation. Forty minutes later, the OSCARS has made some
Speaker 1: discussion about, you know, taking his oscar back or sanctions
Speaker 1: or you know, giving him the Kanye West treatment for
Speaker 1: the next Oscars or something. I suspect nothing. We don't
Speaker 1: seem to universally condemned that behavior. We feel a little
Speaker 1: more the nation is kind of split, sadly on it.
Speaker 1: It seems pretty pretty cut and dry to me. But
Speaker 1: it's also like I remember talking to people during the
Speaker 1: summer and all the riots and all the BLM marches
Speaker 1: and a lot of when stuff got when stuff got nasty,
Speaker 1: And you know, someone would say to me, did you
Speaker 1: see those those cops in New York? They rammed right
Speaker 1: into those protesters, And I'd go, no, let me see
Speaker 1: that tape. And the tape was a bunch of idiots
Speaker 1: on the hood of a cop car, jumping up and
Speaker 1: down and try to kick out the windshield. And then
Speaker 1: the cop car lurches forward and the guys fall off
Speaker 1: the hood, and I'm like, that's not a cop car
Speaker 1: ramming protesters. That's a bunch of jackasses jumping on the
Speaker 1: hood of a cop car and trying to kick out
Speaker 1: the windshield. So we've gotten this weird relationship with violence
Speaker 1: and actions. You know, it's a mostly peaceful protest. As
Speaker 1: the CVS pharmacy burns behind you, you know, something happened
Speaker 1: where we And then we also went the other direction too,
Speaker 1: like did you see Al Franken assaulted that woman on
Speaker 1: the C one thirty cargo play And it's like he
Speaker 1: took a goofy picture with his hands outside of her
Speaker 1: flat jacket. That's not assault. He didn't assault anyway. So
Speaker 1: we've taken this thing called assault and we've twisted it,
Speaker 1: morphed it, and sort of politicized it and used it
Speaker 1: so that if we didn't like Al Franken, then what
Speaker 1: he did was assault, but if we didn't like the cops,
Speaker 1: and what they did wasn't assault when people were trying
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Speaker 1: you know David Spade reacted today when somebody pushed back
Speaker 1: and said, hey, what about Jada Pinkett. She has this um,
Speaker 1: you know disease which is fairly common, actually inability to
Speaker 1: grow hair, And David Spade said, yeah, I don't have
Speaker 1: a medical chart for everybody in the audience. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: That goes back to my point, what's what's funny? What?
Speaker 1: Ricky Gervaise can be really sharp, but then there's stuff
Speaker 1: that can be mean. As a comedian, do you know
Speaker 1: instantly when a joke has written that's over the line
Speaker 1: or is it something? Do you go into shows Adam,
Speaker 1: especially if you don't write all the material and think, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know how this, I don't know how this
Speaker 1: is gonna play. I write all my own material, and
Speaker 1: if it's funny to me and then it's funny, I
Speaker 1: will say it and I will do it. I will
Speaker 1: perform it. Now. The question in my mind now is
Speaker 1: I know it's funny, but we'll see how the audience reacts,
Speaker 1: because they don't always feel comfortable laughing now. So there's
Speaker 1: a kind of a third element to this, which is
Speaker 1: I think it's funny, I will deliver it in a
Speaker 1: funny way, But we don't know if that audience is
Speaker 1: going to have a comfort level with it because they
Speaker 1: heard certain words that were in it that sort of
Speaker 1: made them recoil a little bit. Like I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: I was. I'm a car guy, and I was down
Speaker 1: at the Pebble Beach Car Weekend Race weekend do vintage
Speaker 1: racing there and sitting at this event, and it was
Speaker 1: one of those big events where there's a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of different people and it's outdoors and you end up
Speaker 1: sharing a table with other couples, and you know, you're
Speaker 1: sitting there with your food and your drinks and you're talking.
Speaker 1: You're meeting these other couples, and everyone's a car guy.
Speaker 1: So the guy goes off on some car he has,
Speaker 1: like I have a thirty two Dusenberg, and then the
Speaker 1: other guy's going, I have a Chord and the other
Speaker 1: guy's going, I have a Lamborghini Mura, you know. And
Speaker 1: we're talking about restoring the cars and getting more champagne
Speaker 1: and things of that nature and caviar. And at some
Speaker 1: point I stopped and I said, you know what, this
Speaker 1: conversation we're having here is exactly what black people think
Speaker 1: white people do all day. And one of the women
Speaker 1: at the table went like, okay, all right, no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, and I said, no, I'm just making it. Okay,
Speaker 1: we heard you, we heard you, we heard you. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm making fun of us basically, right,
Speaker 1: but I'm not making fun of black people, and I'm
Speaker 1: making a joke. It's just like, yeah, we heard you,
Speaker 1: we heard Please stop. I was like, people are so
Speaker 1: hair triggered now that if they just hear a topic,
Speaker 1: they're already like, oh, can I clapp can? I laughed,
Speaker 1: I have to tell them the stub. She nervously wanted
Speaker 1: me to stop, which I didn't. But but I think
Speaker 1: that's where the comedian and the sportscaster, that's where it
Speaker 1: kind of it connects, right, Like we're both performers and
Speaker 1: we're both giving kind of a social commentary and sometimes
Speaker 1: intent isn't considered, like you were being self deprecating, and yes,
Speaker 1: it made people uncomfortable. I thought about this Adam athletes
Speaker 1: in my twenty five years of doing this, or thick
Speaker 1: skinned Why because you can have great connections, but they
Speaker 1: have limitations. If you can't hit the ball, catch the ball,
Speaker 1: throw the ball. Make the tackle, you lose your spot
Speaker 1: in the team. Also, athletes deal with very punitive media
Speaker 1: and fans holding them accountable. Hollywood is different connections. It's
Speaker 1: very subjective. Unlike sports, it's very subjective. Connections can have
Speaker 1: an odd leverage for people. That's why you see, like
Speaker 1: families that act, the media is fawning. I mean you
Speaker 1: almost you never see anybody on the red carpet ever
Speaker 1: have a critical word. You're beautiful, your outfits beautiful. Tell
Speaker 1: me more about how beautiful you are. And so whereas
Speaker 1: athletes have thick skin, they get heckled, they get ripped,
Speaker 1: Hollywood doesn't. And I think a lot of that is
Speaker 1: it's an entitled business with a fawning press. Often people
Speaker 1: didn't earn their way in. It was family connections, and
Speaker 1: that's why I think a lot of people cheered Will Smith.
Speaker 1: How dare somebody make fun of us? Now? I'm just
Speaker 1: a layman, right like, I don't even know actors, but
Speaker 1: part of me thinks this is what Hollywood is. Out
Speaker 1: of touch with reality. Many careers are not earned. That
Speaker 1: is not to say Ed Norton and Don Cheetle aren't brilliant,
Speaker 1: but as somebody who covers. Athletes are overwhelmingly thick skinned,
Speaker 1: grateful of shit, incredibly humble, they really are. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's incredible how grateful athletes are. I don't feel like
Speaker 1: Hollywood is. And maybe it's the tunnel where they arrived
Speaker 1: at their career. It's not built for grateful, humble people. Well,
Speaker 1: it's obviously built for narcissists. So you you know, make
Speaker 1: the proclamation that you should be up on the silver
Speaker 1: screen and you should be holding the microphone and the
Speaker 1: great order order in front of all the audience. So
Speaker 1: you know, it's sort of you know, it's a self
Speaker 1: selecting group. You know, you have to think you're pretty
Speaker 1: good looking and pretty smart and have something to say,
Speaker 1: and other people should hear what you have to say,
Speaker 1: and so it attracts the narcissists. And then the other
Speaker 1: thing about the athlete is you were saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: athletes have pretty short careers career wise. I mean, I
Speaker 1: started in show business, I didn't get my first I
Speaker 1: didn't make my first nickel until I was thirty one.
Speaker 1: Most athletes are retiring around thirty one, so it's a
Speaker 1: totally different world. And when it comes to actors, you
Speaker 1: know how many stories have you heard, Oh, this guy
Speaker 1: was originally the guy they wanted to play James Bond,
Speaker 1: and then they got this guy to play James Bond,
Speaker 1: and they wanted to make this guy and this role.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if that guy played this role, this
Speaker 1: role play, you are not necessary as an actor. There
Speaker 1: are a handful of guys that are undeniable, and you
Speaker 1: know that Daniel day Lewis is an undeniable talent. There's
Speaker 1: about seven of those guys, and then there's two thousand
Speaker 1: other guys who need to win a popularity contest. They
Speaker 1: will they will get rid of you if you're not
Speaker 1: on the same page as them politically or whichever way.
Speaker 1: The night geis in. The wind is blowing. So imagine
Speaker 1: if you said to the athlete, you know it's not
Speaker 1: all going to be over when you're thirty four. You
Speaker 1: can go another thirty years in this athletic endeavor you're doing,
Speaker 1: but you better make friends and you better hope people
Speaker 1: like you. And they said, well, what if my fastballs
Speaker 1: not as fast or my forty times not as It's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's a popularity contest at this point, and you wonder
Speaker 1: why they all magically take the same side of every
Speaker 1: issue every single time. It's not because they all individually
Speaker 1: just believe it. Some of these some of these things
Speaker 1: that are going on in the in the world, they're
Speaker 1: they're they're they're nuanced there there you maybe you're for
Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine, but maybe you're against the US
Speaker 1: involvement in the War of Ukraine. And it is a
Speaker 1: thousand other examples how they magically all in lockstep on
Speaker 1: every issue every time because all you have to do
Speaker 1: in that group when it comes to an election that
Speaker 1: is literally a presidential election which is literally split the
Speaker 1: nation and half. You know, he got fifty one percent,
Speaker 1: he got forty nine percent, he got fifty and a
Speaker 1: half percent, he got forty nine and a half percent
Speaker 1: of why the nation completely split. There's not one human
Speaker 1: being in Hollywood who goes, I'm voted for Trump, because
Speaker 1: if you say that, right, then you'll end up with
Speaker 1: Scott Baio somewhere right right right. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: it's an ongoing it's your senior year of high school
Speaker 1: and it never ends, and you're running for prom King
Speaker 1: Adam when you I mean everybody now everything is politics,
Speaker 1: I mean weather is politics. I was talking to a friend.
Speaker 1: I like to ski. There's no ski season and I
Speaker 1: told a friend it's like the ski season now ends
Speaker 1: like March eighth. I'm like, is it global warming? Oh boy?
Speaker 1: I get pushedback and I'm like, I don't know. It
Speaker 1: just you used to be able to ski till April.
Speaker 1: Like the last two years, it feels like it's died.
Speaker 1: You are more aggressive politically, and I kind of stay
Speaker 1: away from it mostly because everybody else is doing it,
Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, ESPN went more heavily
Speaker 1: into it, and I thought it was a business decision.
Speaker 1: To the audience that was turned off by that, I'd
Speaker 1: mostly stay on sports and it worked. It helped as
Speaker 1: you pivoted more into politics. Are you glad you did?
Speaker 1: Are you happy you did? Have there been repercussions? Has
Speaker 1: it hurt revenue as it helped revenue? Where do you
Speaker 1: stand today on that decision? Because I, you know, I
Speaker 1: think of your career and I think Man show, huge podcasting,
Speaker 1: and then we a lot of people just got stucked
Speaker 1: into as performers politics because the whole weather became political.
Speaker 1: Sports is political. How do you view it now? If
Speaker 1: you go back five years are you glad you kind
Speaker 1: of aggressively be moving into that space. I'm in the
Speaker 1: business of saying whatever it is I'm thinking, so I
Speaker 1: can't really control it, per se, whatever I happen to
Speaker 1: be thinking of at the time. More so than other things.
Speaker 1: It doesn't help. I've got a lot of documentaries and
Speaker 1: none of them get into Sundance. That's for political reasons
Speaker 1: for sure, And it doesn't help in Hollywood at all.
Speaker 1: It's a non help. But I still say what I
Speaker 1: want to say, and you know, make enough to keep
Speaker 1: the lights on. And you know, people have this misnomer
Speaker 1: where they go, oh, you're you now become some sort
Speaker 1: of right wing talk mouthpiece and you go over to
Speaker 1: Fox to get paid, and it's like Fox doesn't pay you. No,
Speaker 1: you're going Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity. You don't get paid,
Speaker 1: and you actually lose money because we're in a very
Speaker 1: liberal town and they will blackmail you if you don't
Speaker 1: fall on lockstep with them and all their kookie ideas.
Speaker 1: So no, it's not a good business decision. I tell
Speaker 1: my liberal friends all the time, I say, you get
Speaker 1: you were wrong on the masks, right, you were wrong
Speaker 1: on them. You just you have to own that. If
Speaker 1: you're going to pretend you're the smartest people in the
Speaker 1: room on it, you were wrong. On the masks, you're
Speaker 1: also wrong. There was a moment at the beginning of
Speaker 1: COVID Adam and I'll let you go Jacksonville. A lot
Speaker 1: of people went on the beach in Jacksonville, and people
Speaker 1: went crazy. The media went crazy, And for two weeks
Speaker 1: at him, I kept going to a website to check
Speaker 1: on Jacksonville's COVID numbers. They never popped, of course, And
Speaker 1: I thought, and I remember thinking, you're not going to
Speaker 1: get sick at the beach. That's what I yelled it
Speaker 1: from the mountaintop from from day one. You're not going
Speaker 1: to get sick outside. Now you'll get better outside, all right.
Speaker 1: Adam Crole is busy. He's got a lot of things
Speaker 1: going on. He's trying to get those docks approved into
Speaker 1: the Sundance Film Festival in Park City. You're busy. We
Speaker 1: got we called you last second. Very appreciative of Thank you, sure,
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