Speaker 1: Be Around with the NFL podcast. Can't pronounced wibbled it
Speaker 1: live ish from London. It's Around the NFL Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansas. I come to you from a
Speaker 1: hotel room filled with some heroes, Ricky Hollywood on the
Speaker 1: ones and twos sitting across from me, looking comfortable and
Speaker 1: alert after a ten hour flight. It's Greg Rosenthal. Here
Speaker 1: we go, Baby back in England. We home, Baby. Jet
Speaker 1: lag is for the week. You know, jet jet lag
Speaker 1: is a mind state. We're gonna overcome this. We're gonna
Speaker 1: come with the best podcast we ever did. Straight off that.
Speaker 1: This is how Greg talks now. By the way, it's
Speaker 1: so weird. He got on the plane, flew halfway across
Speaker 1: the world, and now he talks like a local television
Speaker 1: tough guy. It's great. Welcome. I'm I'm thrilled. It does
Speaker 1: feel good to be here. It feels good to be
Speaker 1: to be well rested, with the help of Erica's medication
Speaker 1: she gave me on on the flight. You guys, you
Speaker 1: guys are hurting after taking the naps. Can't take the naps.
Speaker 1: The knaps classic mistake, rookie mistake. Yeah, paying for it.
Speaker 1: I'm hanging on by a thread here and we're about
Speaker 1: a minute thirty into the show. Yeah, we're in the
Speaker 1: hotel room. We're all on the same floor here in
Speaker 1: uh downtown London, and um, we set a goal to
Speaker 1: start taping at four thirty. We have Neil Reynolds of
Speaker 1: Sky Sports fame, who should be arriving and knocking on
Speaker 1: the door. A gentleman will be knocking on your door
Speaker 1: at any moment, Ricky, Wow, once again I got the
Speaker 1: biggest hotel room. I'm not sure how that happened. Um,
Speaker 1: and any bigger than mine? Please? All right, well then
Speaker 1: you should host. The host has the smallest hotel room.
Speaker 1: This is a recurring theme every time we got on London.
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to do the thing where I
Speaker 1: try to move rooms. This aggression will not stand. It's
Speaker 1: a microaggression. You did it last time in Miami. I
Speaker 1: think mine is actually a little bigger, um and slightly
Speaker 1: nicer than eric As if you wanted to take a
Speaker 1: look last time. I last time we were in London,
Speaker 1: you guys were all in palatial estates and I was
Speaker 1: in like a converted boiler room. I remember it was
Speaker 1: like legitimately a dangerous place to live. There was steps
Speaker 1: in a hot pipe right next to the bathroom, and
Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself, like, is this this is
Speaker 1: supposed to be a luxury hotel. This is not a
Speaker 1: luxury hotel. Now I'm overlooking, like the dining area while
Speaker 1: you guys have a view of the city out your
Speaker 1: window will not stand. I'm going down to the lobby
Speaker 1: male Karen style. This is just con savory. This is
Speaker 1: a five star hotel. The NFL sent us over to London.
Speaker 1: We've come a long way. We've come a long way. Um,
Speaker 1: you know since five I will not overlook the dining patio.
Speaker 1: I will overlook the city of London. And right on cue,
Speaker 1: Neil Reynolds walks into Erica's room with confidence. It's like
Speaker 1: he's done that before. Just strolls right into a lady
Speaker 1: hot coffee for me to sleep anyway. So Neil is
Speaker 1: going to join us in just a bit, and we
Speaker 1: are giving you a little a little bit of an
Speaker 1: early jump on the preview episode. This week. We're going
Speaker 1: to go through every game inclusive, including Thursday Night football,
Speaker 1: which is actually played on Friday. I just learned this
Speaker 1: all this time I've had I knew it was late,
Speaker 1: but I never connected with me that Thursday night football
Speaker 1: is actually Friday morning football. In the UK. There is
Speaker 1: no such thing as Sunday night football. It's Monday morning football.
Speaker 1: There is no such thing as Monday night football. It's
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning football. That's what it's like. So just to
Speaker 1: reminder all the people that wonder what it's like to
Speaker 1: be a football fan on on this side of the world,
Speaker 1: it is different. You've got to be legit to stay
Speaker 1: up and watch all these games. Why it's just the
Speaker 1: the in depth analysis that we just got a day
Speaker 1: of the weeks that turned in the morning. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'd just wake it up here. He's right, though, there
Speaker 1: is something to it. There is something to it that
Speaker 1: to be a fan over here or in Australia or
Speaker 1: really wherever you're gonna be, it brings out a special
Speaker 1: sort of fan, like it brings out the sort of
Speaker 1: fan that is going to pack out Jets Falcons at
Speaker 1: a neutral site on Sunday. If you put Jets Falcons
Speaker 1: at a neutral site in the States, maybe you'd fill
Speaker 1: the stadium, maybe you wouldn't, but you wouldn't have like
Speaker 1: a super Bowl like atmosphere, which we really will have Sunday.
Speaker 1: I've been to enough of these games that like the
Speaker 1: crowd is going to be going wild. Uh and they're
Speaker 1: they're not even Jets or Falcons fans. I mean, who
Speaker 1: who are Jets and Falcons fans? Anyways, we are here,
Speaker 1: we are proud. I'm gonna be at Jets practice. I
Speaker 1: think Ricky's coming with me on Friday. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: our live shows on Thursday night. There's two shows, one
Speaker 1: sold out, there's another one where the tickets might be available.
Speaker 1: Check it out, Ricky the plug in Top Secret Comedy Club.
Speaker 1: I think um Greg just posted on his Instagram about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: checking stories, uh yeah and uh and we also might
Speaker 1: try to do a surprise pop up at least I
Speaker 1: know I want to with the buddy at some of
Speaker 1: these uh NFL sponsored bars that are here. But enough
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, there's like a Falcon's bar and there's
Speaker 1: a Jet spar that's open all week, and so people
Speaker 1: should check that out. You never know who you might see,
Speaker 1: but you know, we know we're I can almost hear
Speaker 1: like the the American fans and the Asian fans, they're
Speaker 1: just like, get on with the week, Get on with
Speaker 1: the week five previously Asian fans. They're all over the place.
Speaker 1: We have we have tons of Asian fans Australia, australiantern European,
Speaker 1: Eastern Europeans, like Western Europe. They always gets the pop.
Speaker 1: It was just it was just funny that you singled
Speaker 1: out the Asian fans having a particular issue with us
Speaker 1: going on about our trip to England. Right now, my
Speaker 1: father in law, you know, he's a big listener. He
Speaker 1: is literally walking right now, um from Tokyo two Osaka,
Speaker 1: I believe, by himself, with no purpose, just like oh
Speaker 1: he's doing he's like walking. He's just walking. It's gonna
Speaker 1: take him about a month and a half, not with anyone.
Speaker 1: Didn't really tell him many people. He just decided to
Speaker 1: start walking to two weeks into it. Yeah, he's got
Speaker 1: some nice boots. It's a pretty wild situation. He sends pictures.
Speaker 1: He's a strange man, is he is? He going to
Speaker 1: be at the live show on Thursday night? He won't
Speaker 1: be there, Okay, maybe he could swing by. All right,
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna go through
Speaker 1: all the games, including Friday Morning football uh and uh,
Speaker 1: Monday Morning football. Uh, Tuesday morning football, and guess what,
Speaker 1: Let's do it this way. Neil is here. He's sitting
Speaker 1: in the chair. He only brought one coffee. Even though
Speaker 1: I I was sleeping. We were scheduled to start at
Speaker 1: four thirty. I sat up in a flash panic from
Speaker 1: my bed at four thirty seven. Um, in a sleep.
Speaker 1: So now it's five oh eight. So I'm not totally awake,
Speaker 1: but I'm awake enough to talk to Neil. How are you, buddy.
Speaker 1: I'm good, I've got I always will heat the cool
Speaker 1: whenever you guys asked me. So it's great to be
Speaker 1: back on, but a couple of issues. Yes, well, yes,
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Okay, so it's fifteen minutes and I'm not Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's that's one of the issues. Because you told
Speaker 1: me i'd be on for thirty minutes, and then I
Speaker 1: realized we're drafting games. I listened to you guys. You
Speaker 1: never draft in thirty minutes, right, Julie's got the dinner
Speaker 1: on now you can. You can leave halfway through the draft,
Speaker 1: just trying to give you flavor and then and then
Speaker 1: move you along your way. I don't need to move on.
Speaker 1: I'm good. On the other one. Yes, I always listen.
Speaker 1: You don't know this, but I drive ninety minutes to
Speaker 1: Sky on a Sunday night, on a Sunday afternoon before
Speaker 1: the show, and I always listened to the preview show.
Speaker 1: Now I can't listen to it. You know, I know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. So that's Sunday rude. Well, maybe
Speaker 1: you can listen back to it and critique your own
Speaker 1: performance and annoying voice. You know you add class to
Speaker 1: the proceedings. Neil, Let's make get my phone. I haven't
Speaker 1: got the games in front of me. You do you
Speaker 1: need your phone. I don't know the games. You know,
Speaker 1: the listener won't know what you do. You'll be right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go for it. We'll have Neil. We'll go through the
Speaker 1: primetime games, maybe start the draft, and then let Neil
Speaker 1: get home to Julie and the family. UM. I feel
Speaker 1: like that would make us class acts. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Let's start, yes, by previewing the first game of the week.
Speaker 1: It is the Los Angeles Rams at the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Huge division matchup here for two teams, one coming off
Speaker 1: a win, the Seahawks, who went to San Francisco and
Speaker 1: righted their ship, Neil with a huge win of the
Speaker 1: Niners and then a Rams team that got humbled a
Speaker 1: little bit, no doubt about it. They have the Cardinals
Speaker 1: another division game. The Cardinals came to Sofi Stadium and
Speaker 1: whipped them, and I think Neil. One thing I took
Speaker 1: away when I was watching these games in Week four
Speaker 1: was if you are in these division showdowns in the
Speaker 1: NFC West and you do not bring your a game,
Speaker 1: you can get embarrassed. And I think about what the
Speaker 1: Rams are going to encounter, get the Seahawks, and it
Speaker 1: could happen again if the Rams don't play better football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to trust one of these two teams,
Speaker 1: so I think I trust the Rams and Sean McVeigh.
Speaker 1: I'm really worried about Seattle's defense. I mean, I actually
Speaker 1: think it's okay. I don't think it's getting better. Um.
Speaker 1: I still believe in Matthew Stafford Shaw McVeigh, and I
Speaker 1: believe they can bounce back more. I think there was
Speaker 1: a large period of that game against San Francisco where
Speaker 1: Seattle just weren't very good. That score line kind of
Speaker 1: flattered them at the end. I think it was convenient
Speaker 1: for them that tray Lance came in, so that sound
Speaker 1: weird when I say tray Lance, not Lance. No, I
Speaker 1: like it again, you bring some class when tray Lance
Speaker 1: comes in, like a posh British accent. This is it,
Speaker 1: this is what? This is just one No, I know,
Speaker 1: but there's there are many and I can't tell the difference.
Speaker 1: But they'll be like, oh he's rich, and then other
Speaker 1: people here and there's like, oh his parents are are
Speaker 1: something he's ashamed about, Like which I'll start to pronounce
Speaker 1: my teas a bit more if I'm trying to be careful,
Speaker 1: otherwise I might. Yeah, that's like the in The Departed
Speaker 1: when Matt Damon's uh, you know, going after DiCaprio's character
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, so you know when you're you're lace,
Speaker 1: You're lace curtain, aren't you. You know, when you're when
Speaker 1: you're hanging out with your family and your nice town,
Speaker 1: nice part of New England, you're all dignified. Then you
Speaker 1: go to Southey and you drop your rs and become
Speaker 1: a tough guy. Like are there different levels to Neil's
Speaker 1: English accent? Yeah? Yeah, I mean if I'm if I'm
Speaker 1: talking to you know, the builders building a wall in
Speaker 1: my garden, right, yeah, bring bring it all the way
Speaker 1: down anyway. I like I like the I like trade
Speaker 1: lines is great, and we should only call him tray
Speaker 1: Lions for the week. And I'm excited about that game too,
Speaker 1: because I think this is sort of a big week
Speaker 1: in the NFC West. The last two weeks they played
Speaker 1: this round robin, and I personally believe there's a big
Speaker 1: separation between the Rams and Cardinals at the top and
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and at the bottom, just in terms of
Speaker 1: how they've played so far. Now, it hasn't totally shown
Speaker 1: up in the standings yet they've only played four games.
Speaker 1: But this is a week where you could see that
Speaker 1: separation because if both Arizona and the Rams win, and
Speaker 1: I think they will, then that separation becomes real. They
Speaker 1: look like the teams that are more complete. I look
Speaker 1: at Seattle and I just think, like, you're not getting
Speaker 1: a lot of juice from Jamal Adams. You know how
Speaker 1: everyone's well, he's a he's a great pass rusher. How
Speaker 1: many pressures does Jamal Adams have this year? Dan, take
Speaker 1: a guess. If I had a guess, I'll say six
Speaker 1: zero zero pressure, zero big plays. Hasn't gotten his hand
Speaker 1: on the ball, and I just think he has doesn't
Speaker 1: have a pressure in four games six. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're using him quite as much. He has
Speaker 1: been around the ball, but he's not making a big impact.
Speaker 1: And I just think there's so many mismatches when you
Speaker 1: look at their cornerbacks and the Rams, unlike San Francisco
Speaker 1: a week ago, has so many different players that they
Speaker 1: can throw to that Sean McVeigh can find the matchups
Speaker 1: that mismatches. Matthew Stafford did not throw the ball well
Speaker 1: last week, but if you have open receivers, he'll hit him.
Speaker 1: And whether it's Jefferson or it's gonna be a Woods
Speaker 1: game or Higbeer, someone's gonna have Trey Flowers or DJ
Speaker 1: read or who whoever Seahawks cornerback is struggling in this game,
Speaker 1: like they will find him. They beat him twice last year,
Speaker 1: two out of three times, including that playoff. He's six
Speaker 1: and three against uh Pete Carroll overall Sean McVeigh, So
Speaker 1: he has a nice little history and this would be
Speaker 1: a nice win to wipe that taste out and kind
Speaker 1: of bury the Seahawks here. So the only thing that
Speaker 1: didn't work the only thing that worked last year is
Speaker 1: not being used that way this year, right Stafford. One
Speaker 1: quick thing on Stafford I just want to point out
Speaker 1: is that he's had sort of like a almost like
Speaker 1: a boring season. If you look at PFFS numbers, he
Speaker 1: is not in the top twenty in big time throws,
Speaker 1: which is just kind of like a stat they use
Speaker 1: for like really impressive wow plays. And he's not in
Speaker 1: the top twenty five in turnover worthy plays, which is great.
Speaker 1: So he to me, he's like playing very much within
Speaker 1: the scheme, like he's a system quarterback in a great system.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's better at it than Jared Gofflin, Like
Speaker 1: a lot of wow there, there seems to be a
Speaker 1: disconnect there, And you know, pff that's subjective, of course.
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like the Rams offense has been
Speaker 1: significantly more explosive this season than it was at any
Speaker 1: point last year. Doesn't it feel that way? I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say it. Look at the Stafford Ramses throws to open
Speaker 1: receivers that maybe you know that that he's making good decisions.
Speaker 1: Even last week I thought they were open receivers. He
Speaker 1: just missed him, Like the Cardinals defense probably got a
Speaker 1: little too much credit in that game. The Seahawks needed
Speaker 1: that game in a big way last week. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think Jamal Adams, you know, he's too good to
Speaker 1: be held down for this long. So all that tells
Speaker 1: me more than anything is, first of all, you know
Speaker 1: Seattle is like, whoa, we just gave this guy all
Speaker 1: this money, you can't disappear on us. But also tells
Speaker 1: me he's probably due for a big game, and I
Speaker 1: can see that happening here. Um. And the thing about
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, Neal is their defense as bad as it
Speaker 1: was the first three weeks. I know you had some
Speaker 1: things work in your favor with Jimmy g getting hurt
Speaker 1: in that game, Robbie Gould getting hurt, but I saw
Speaker 1: a progress there. So this game, who a you got
Speaker 1: in this game? I'm gonna go with the Rams, just
Speaker 1: because I feel like there's still a team that's like
Speaker 1: Gregg talks about the separation, I still feel like they're
Speaker 1: at the top end of this division. Is only a
Speaker 1: two games separation from top to bottom of the moment,
Speaker 1: But we're only four games in, so that's question right now.
Speaker 1: One In d v O A, I think so far
Speaker 1: they have given up a out of plays like they
Speaker 1: have not been the same defense. So maybe we get
Speaker 1: a little bit of a shootout. I think we could.
Speaker 1: And you're relying on Russell wilson magic still too much.
Speaker 1: I think I don't have a good feeling about Seattle generally.
Speaker 1: Alex Collins did some things on the ground for Seattle,
Speaker 1: but I still would like to see Russ Wilson throw
Speaker 1: more than twenty three times in a game. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: see it on Thursday. And let's move now to the
Speaker 1: primetime games Sunday Night football, the Chiefs at excuse me,
Speaker 1: the Bills at the Chiefs. This is good, oh man, alright,
Speaker 1: So power rankings. I had the Bills number one Sunday
Speaker 1: night when I sent the preliminary list to our producer.
Speaker 1: Jenkowski had him at number one. After they beat the
Speaker 1: Texans word his zip and we're seeing the defense shutting
Speaker 1: teams out and the offense humming uh or looking much
Speaker 1: better than it did early in the season. And then
Speaker 1: I said, I can't do that. I can't do that
Speaker 1: off a Texans pasting. It's the Texans, give me one more,
Speaker 1: show me one more game. And I looked ahead of
Speaker 1: the schedules. Okay, if they can go to arrowhead Neil
Speaker 1: and beat up the Chiefs, this is it. This is
Speaker 1: that they're the number one team in the a f
Speaker 1: C and arguably the whole league. It's a big test,
Speaker 1: but perhaps the biggest test in this game, when you
Speaker 1: just drill down to it, is can the Chiefs get
Speaker 1: any stops to keep this from being just a back
Speaker 1: and forth shootout? And that's that's the difference. To me,
Speaker 1: We're gonna look at Josh Allen, We're gonna look at
Speaker 1: Patrick my homes, but which which defense can come up
Speaker 1: with a timely turnover, a timely stop? Um in a
Speaker 1: bit to be more like Dan hans as, I do
Speaker 1: power rankings as well, But then, well, I know no
Speaker 1: one reads something you do we have a lawyer on returning?
Speaker 1: Or do we have to call the league office every
Speaker 1: other because you know other companies obviously there's a lot
Speaker 1: of power rankings pretty much. But he works for the NFL.
Speaker 1: You can send an email to your that Reynolds NFL
Speaker 1: and if you're listening, just send them emails to Empower Rankings.
Speaker 1: I'll delete and ignore. I don't to I don't tend
Speaker 1: to even recognize the presence of other power rankings, but
Speaker 1: I might have to Yeah, I might have to stamp
Speaker 1: this out where you've been doing it for thirty years.
Speaker 1: So apparently apparently. But I did have Buffalo top. You
Speaker 1: had them one, yes, And I think obviously Josh Allen's
Speaker 1: the big thing that everyone pays attention to, but it's
Speaker 1: the defense as well. Their defense looks back more to
Speaker 1: what we saw for most of two thousand nine team,
Speaker 1: what we actually saw in the playoffs against Baltimore as well,
Speaker 1: which we kind of forget because their rankings were kind
Speaker 1: of middling last year. Um So if I'm going to
Speaker 1: look for one team to get a timely stop or
Speaker 1: a turnover, then I think it's Buffalo. That's ridiculous that
Speaker 1: the Chiefs might lose two within the first five weeks
Speaker 1: of the season. Arrowhead, I don't know the thing with
Speaker 1: Greg the hand ring about the Chief's offense. I just
Speaker 1: found that to be laughable. And then you go into
Speaker 1: week four and you're like, oh, yeah, this is if
Speaker 1: they if they don't shoot themselves in the foot. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs are as deadly now as they've been ever been
Speaker 1: to me, And what you saw it's not just Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: It's Andy Reid and the scheme they they had, um,
Speaker 1: they had the Eagles twisted in so many directions. It
Speaker 1: was so easy to score for the Chiefs, and it
Speaker 1: just made me think that as much as I respect
Speaker 1: what Buffalo has done, and yes they have two shutouts
Speaker 1: already in four games, I don't think the Bills are
Speaker 1: gonna stop the Chiefs. I just don't see. Maybe they'll
Speaker 1: get a couple of punts, but I don't think this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a situation when you're gonna see Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes looking frustrated coming off the field for multiple punts.
Speaker 1: Do you you see Buffalo finding way to slow down
Speaker 1: this case the attack? I think I could get a
Speaker 1: couple of stops, which is more than most teams. That's
Speaker 1: something right they haven't in the past. That you mentioned
Speaker 1: that Bill's playoff defense, Well that that good streak ended
Speaker 1: the second day, went to Arrowhead and got drilled, just
Speaker 1: like they got drilled in Buffalo last year in a
Speaker 1: different sort against we haven't seen them pulse. It's their
Speaker 1: chance to topple and I'm so fascinated to see the
Speaker 1: approach because Kansas City is winning now on offense in
Speaker 1: a very different way to your point, Dan about how
Speaker 1: effective they are. They're actually scoring more points now per
Speaker 1: drive than any previous Chiefs team. They're they're scoring more
Speaker 1: points per drive than any team in the history of
Speaker 1: the NFL. Now it's through four weeks. You're probably not
Speaker 1: going to keep that up, but like more than the
Speaker 1: oh seven Patriots, more than anything. That's how effective they are.
Speaker 1: Teams have effectively shortened games against them, and so that's
Speaker 1: why they're They're point total isn't quite as high as
Speaker 1: you would think when they're historically good per drive. They
Speaker 1: practiced Mahomes and Read talked about all off season basically
Speaker 1: that if teams are going to back off and they're
Speaker 1: gonna make us thinking dunk and they're gonna make us
Speaker 1: run the ball, then we'll take that bet. Let's get
Speaker 1: better at running and let's get ruthlessly efficient at throwing
Speaker 1: the ball short. And they have had some turnovers, so
Speaker 1: that's why they have two losses. And the running game
Speaker 1: took a minute. But last week was the first time
Speaker 1: you said, wow, like this offensive line. They're starting two
Speaker 1: rookies who are playing really well. They're starting to run
Speaker 1: the ball well. If they can do that, then they're
Speaker 1: almost unstoppable. If I'm the Bills, though, I still take
Speaker 1: that approach like I still would take that then going
Speaker 1: man coverage and hoping you can stop Tyreek Hill, because
Speaker 1: if I was picking a quarterback to make a couple
Speaker 1: of mistakes in this game, I'd still go with Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: not my homes Alan is second in the league and
Speaker 1: turnover worthy plays this year. According to PFF. He's put
Speaker 1: the ball in harm's way, including like even last week
Speaker 1: against Houston. If you watched that game, wasn't a super
Speaker 1: clean game. You know he fumbled. He put in harm's way.
Speaker 1: And that's probably what the Chiefs are hoping for because
Speaker 1: they are not nearly as balanced as the Bills. And
Speaker 1: Matt Mulano, Man, I can't pick this game. I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. I I have a column
Speaker 1: to game picks every week Down, not just Power Down,
Speaker 1: all about power rankings. I know, I know. I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say, Matt Mulatto, your boy, one of the
Speaker 1: most important players on the Bill's defense, suffered a hamstring
Speaker 1: injury last week out. His absence is going to be
Speaker 1: felt as well. So I think if This is a
Speaker 1: tough one to pick. I'm gonna roll with the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and just think that as much as I respect the Bills,
Speaker 1: they have to show me that they could beat the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it happens here. All right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm gonna go Buffalo. I picked Buffalo to
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. You have number one ranking in
Speaker 1: the unofficial Yeah, I had. I had Josh Allen on
Speaker 1: the cover of my season preview magazine. Um. I did
Speaker 1: also in that magazine have a feature on Urban Maya
Speaker 1: that was titled Plan to Win. I think what you think?
Speaker 1: What you want about that? Um, everybody's got a plan
Speaker 1: and yeah, until you get well, yeah, we'll get to
Speaker 1: that in a bit. Sorry, Rickie, there's first bit. Toad
Speaker 1: it out. I'm gonna go Buffalo, I think your podcast,
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah, I'm gonna go Buffalo. And I think
Speaker 1: they think whoever's got enough. I started the week thinking
Speaker 1: Buffalo because I do think they're the better team overall,
Speaker 1: and I do think just them winning this game at
Speaker 1: this point in the season makes sense, even if Kansas
Speaker 1: City ends up getting them back later on like this,
Speaker 1: it just makes sense. And yet when when I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to sit down and write it, I think later,
Speaker 1: and I think I'll just have a hard time doing that,
Speaker 1: and I'll probably just take my homes because when I'm
Speaker 1: watching the game and Mahomes has the ball, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna be like, how stupid was I to pick against
Speaker 1: them at home when in doubt pick Mahomes. But as
Speaker 1: bad as their defense has been, the Chiefs um and
Speaker 1: it's been bad. It's thirty one in total defense, uh,
Speaker 1: lasting yards per play and big plays allowed and red
Speaker 1: zone defense. They're not getting the ball turned over much.
Speaker 1: It is it will will be a red alert uh
Speaker 1: for Big Red if they lose this game and fall
Speaker 1: back below five and the defense is not showing any progress.
Speaker 1: That's something to watch you that that case, defense has
Speaker 1: struggled all year long. All right, let us move on
Speaker 1: to Monday night football, Tuesday morning football, Tuesday morning football.
Speaker 1: We'll just be we'll be arriving home at about half time.
Speaker 1: I believe we do have some Sunday night football. I
Speaker 1: don't have confused things, but you know, six o'clock kickoff.
Speaker 1: It is. It is very confusing to me. Neil, you
Speaker 1: have all so you do you would think the multiple
Speaker 1: trips and then the year. Understand, here we go. He
Speaker 1: already wants to get back to America and itching for
Speaker 1: the Red, White and Blue right now. Now here we go.
Speaker 1: Cults at Ravens Monday Night Football, our last Island game,
Speaker 1: as we call it. The Colts. Neil got off the
Speaker 1: matt in Miami and put together what I thought was
Speaker 1: an all around solid effort. You don't watch a game
Speaker 1: and think to yourself, oh wow, the Colts not only
Speaker 1: have they figured it out, they're about to get go
Speaker 1: on a major run. But it was the type of
Speaker 1: game maybe a week later than I expected it personally,
Speaker 1: because I thought we would get this performance against the
Speaker 1: Titans the week before, where a well coached team with
Speaker 1: veterans and some playmakers um steps up and gets a
Speaker 1: w They got seventeen. It's a different deal against the Ravens, though.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not the Dolphins. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough game on the road. How do you
Speaker 1: see this game? I just I'm not feeling the Colts
Speaker 1: at all. There's such a disappointment. I really thought they
Speaker 1: were going to be better than they are. And I
Speaker 1: don't read much until last week's result at all. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins are terrible. Um, I think the Colts were just
Speaker 1: the better of two bad teams. I'm not believing in
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz yet. Um I'm obviously watching I mean the
Speaker 1: Sky Sports studio, so I'm watching red zone clear, so
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing much. My son George is a Cults fan.
Speaker 1: He's watching every snap. He's like, we can't cross midfield
Speaker 1: with We're not We've got no difference makers. We've got
Speaker 1: no one who can do anything explosive. It's Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 1: or bust Really, Um, I just don't see them going.
Speaker 1: It's Baltimore and winning this game. It's a tough matchup
Speaker 1: because Baltimore is built to stop Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, is
Speaker 1: built to stop the run and make them one dimensional.
Speaker 1: And Baltimore, who I was worried about in terms of
Speaker 1: like whether they'd be the old Ravens defense with all
Speaker 1: the crazy blitz is Man, they threw so much stuff
Speaker 1: at Teddy Bridgewater and Drew Lock like their heads were spinning. Uh.
Speaker 1: Their their defense still mixes it up again, especially against
Speaker 1: bad offensive lines, and the Cults are a bad offensive
Speaker 1: line right now, Like they haven't proven that they can
Speaker 1: protect Carson Wentz. I saw the line in this game,
Speaker 1: it's a touchdown, and I thought that maybe too much.
Speaker 1: I can see the Colts hanging in there to the end.
Speaker 1: But the more I think about it, just wink Martindale.
Speaker 1: He deserves more credit as one of the best coaches
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL when he smells blood in the
Speaker 1: water with like a bad line and a quarterback that
Speaker 1: maybe isn't as Um, that isn't Drew Brees or Tom
Speaker 1: Brady back there, like he can just make them look
Speaker 1: crazy bad. The defense, the Ravens defense, and that's why
Speaker 1: I'm locking up the Ravens. Oh, it's a touchdown, has
Speaker 1: to be under a touchdown. He tried, what's your record
Speaker 1: in the lock game right now? Oh, you lost again
Speaker 1: last But if you include her record last season, it
Speaker 1: would actually be five and fifteen, five and eighteen, Greg
Speaker 1: tracking and didn't even said, didn't even look any of that.
Speaker 1: He just split it out the rules, sent it to me,
Speaker 1: Sent it to you, Greg, you are less psycho. Why
Speaker 1: why are you tracking her in this game? This way?
Speaker 1: Speak to it. Um, here's the real I had to
Speaker 1: find out when she quit last year? When when remember
Speaker 1: she quit at some point, so I was like, she
Speaker 1: did quit and then it was like week sixteen or something,
Speaker 1: so you went out of your way to do research
Speaker 1: on this. This is this is a bit skip when
Speaker 1: I'm driving to work. Now I can't. I'm having to
Speaker 1: live through it. It's the tension that it is a fog.
Speaker 1: There's a fog. Um. Henry Hotchen just rolled in with
Speaker 1: more stuff. And this is the most British snack that
Speaker 1: I've ever been handed in my life, called Percy pig
Speaker 1: and pals. Yeahs pigs fantastic. Then wow, I have never
Speaker 1: felt more at home right now. I feel bad that
Speaker 1: I'm just bringing in my coffee when coming in with
Speaker 1: one Starbucks, just coming in with an hour flight. It's
Speaker 1: just like, whoa bro, what hospitality is that? Um? Anyway,
Speaker 1: so Ricky try to lock up? Are we gonna let
Speaker 1: rules rules? There's a code um anyway? Two fifty four
Speaker 1: yards the Baltimore defense allowed last week. Uh so I
Speaker 1: don't I don't imagine Indie's gonna move the ball? Well,
Speaker 1: I really I really like the Ravens in this game.
Speaker 1: Uh And I don't know this could this could be
Speaker 1: a blowout. I think, Yeah, trust the Colsons, Why why
Speaker 1: are they giving the bottle of Otavius Murray they bring
Speaker 1: back Tyson Williams. That this is the worst running game
Speaker 1: the Ravens have had since Lamar Jackson took over at
Speaker 1: quarterback by far, which maybe that doesn't hurt them this week.
Speaker 1: And it's fascinating to me that they took a heavy
Speaker 1: pass first approach against Vic Fangio and the Bronco is
Speaker 1: one of the best past defensively, So anyone out there
Speaker 1: who was like, hey, the Ravens aren't built to play
Speaker 1: from behind her, Hey the Ravens that can't just like
Speaker 1: rely on Lamar's arm, Like that's what they've been doing
Speaker 1: this year. They've totally flipped the script because they can't
Speaker 1: run the ball right now, which long term I think
Speaker 1: is a problem. They gotta play Tyson Williams and anyone
Speaker 1: who's gonna watch Carlson went still five o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: Oh credit, that is that's legit fandom. And if we
Speaker 1: talk about the dominance of Patrick Mahomes in September, we
Speaker 1: should mention that Lamar Jackson is seven and oh in
Speaker 1: his career in October, that is, that's kind of a
Speaker 1: random stat. But that's just something you should know. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then I look at his stats. Seven touchdowns, five interceptions,
Speaker 1: one passer rating, so not that impressive. But the Ravens
Speaker 1: have been winning in October since he took over as
Speaker 1: the starter. Um, let's pause quickly for a break. All right,
Speaker 1: do you really have to get back to your wife?
Speaker 1: Skip the draft? I'm good, No, I'm good, alright, I
Speaker 1: don't have the games still. Is this room like a
Speaker 1: concrete bunk? Curl something I've noice signaled? All right, let's
Speaker 1: do this, Neil, Let's do because we're gonna be here
Speaker 1: all day at this rate. Let's do one round of
Speaker 1: the draft and then we'll say goodbye. Let's do it
Speaker 1: that way, and since you are our guest, we will
Speaker 1: give you the first pick in the draft. You want it,
Speaker 1: you want to look at my I know I've got
Speaker 1: my first one, so I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: maybe off the board. And and if you want, you know,
Speaker 1: to get a lock out there, you know Ricky has
Speaker 1: already started the lock process in a horrifying way. If
Speaker 1: you have a lock throw out there before you leave it,
Speaker 1: tire that maybe it's this game, get us gone? Have
Speaker 1: you checked with Robert Rosenthal. Rosy, I can I can
Speaker 1: give a lock. Greg is the authority for all things
Speaker 1: lock related, but only specifically to Erica's all right, I'm
Speaker 1: going to take the first pick. I'm going to take
Speaker 1: Green Bay and Cincinnati. So obviously we'll have all just
Speaker 1: enjoyed the Jets and Falcons at Tottenham Hotspur and then
Speaker 1: we settle down and watch Aaron Rodgers. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing during Falcons? Um Jets? You're hosting
Speaker 1: hosting show? You you know, I know, but you're coming
Speaker 1: into so you thought that you would just host. We
Speaker 1: just saw you with the whole show. Now I know
Speaker 1: we're on the sidelines. Whether are you going to be
Speaker 1: like asking us questions? Just basically yes, So I'm going
Speaker 1: to be up like some kind of ivory tower of
Speaker 1: a studio throwing crumbs down to you, airtime, crumbs down
Speaker 1: to you. Do you miss? Do you miss? Used to
Speaker 1: Greg Let's he was hosted like with a big sort
Speaker 1: of we didn't think we were hosting. I know what
Speaker 1: you do during the normal games, but this is like
Speaker 1: your game is actually on underneath, so I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened will be in the studio. You'll be honest,
Speaker 1: ask us, ask us some good questions, maybe better questions. Wow,
Speaker 1: but now you really got to go after Greg on
Speaker 1: live TV on Sunday at the big time. So yes,
Speaker 1: So after we've after we've watched the Jets of Falcons,
Speaker 1: which I will be a part of as the anchor
Speaker 1: of the coverage, and we dropped the anchor in a
Speaker 1: big spot. I love it, Reynolds style. I will then
Speaker 1: be watching because that's our next game on Sky Sports.
Speaker 1: Will be watching the Bengals and the Packers, and let's
Speaker 1: see if the Bengals are for real. I think Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow has shown us that he is. We saw that
Speaker 1: last year. Um, I've seen enough of that already this year,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna he is, saving Zach Taylor's job
Speaker 1: and making that job more secure for him. Um. But
Speaker 1: I like the Packers as well. So this is a
Speaker 1: really tough one to to cool. But I like to
Speaker 1: see good young quarterbacks playing well, and that's what this is. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think everyone's excited to see what's next now from
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. This is coming off ten day layoff we
Speaker 1: saw in Thursday Night Football. Um Burrow was you know
Speaker 1: so exciting and leading a comeback win in the second
Speaker 1: half over the Jaguars. However, it was the Jaguars, so
Speaker 1: this is a big step up. Now they have, uh,
Speaker 1: they have a chance to really make a statement against
Speaker 1: Green Bay. And yet I look at the Desert, Greg
Speaker 1: and this one's stunned me. Right now, the Desert has
Speaker 1: it as Packers by a field goal, and I'm thinking, too,
Speaker 1: my off, like, obviously the Desert knows things. But in
Speaker 1: what world are the Packers you know, almost you know,
Speaker 1: in the same ballpark of Cincinnati. I'm just not there yet,
Speaker 1: I guess, is what I'm trying to say. With the Bengals.
Speaker 1: I think the Packers, even on the road, are going
Speaker 1: to have their way with the Bengals and continue to
Speaker 1: roll roll momentum. And that is why, Yes, he got it.
Speaker 1: If the Desert's gonna give me a field golf, I
Speaker 1: only have to lay that little amount of wood, Ricky,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock it up. What do you think? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's surprising to you? Right you would have said four
Speaker 1: and a half five, Yeah, I I it is surprising.
Speaker 1: But I think if you look at the two defenses
Speaker 1: right now, Bengals top five in the league right now
Speaker 1: in d v O, a pretty good Packers defense might
Speaker 1: not have Jane Alexander, probably won't their best player, Zadarius
Speaker 1: Smith we'd ever mentioned on this show, is undergoing back surgery.
Speaker 1: He's been out and you know we knew that, but
Speaker 1: now he might not return for the rest of this season.
Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins, the replacement for back t r at left tackle,
Speaker 1: hasn't played in a couple of weeks, so you've got
Speaker 1: some missing key pieces. Those are like top ten players
Speaker 1: on the Packers and and one reason why I'm really
Speaker 1: excited to watch this game not just Burrow against this
Speaker 1: Packers defense, where I think he can move the ball,
Speaker 1: but Rogers and the Packers offense has been good. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's been like the next level this year.
Speaker 1: For the most part. It's had its moments, and I
Speaker 1: think there's a really tough matchup. I do kind of
Speaker 1: believe in this Bengals well coached scheme. And one of
Speaker 1: the reasons they gave up some plays that Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: last week was they did not have their two best
Speaker 1: players in the secondary available for that game, Jesse Bates
Speaker 1: and a Woozier. And I think they'll both be back
Speaker 1: for this game, So I think it's I think three
Speaker 1: points sounds about right. I think it does. This is
Speaker 1: a game for someone like Jesse Bates and actually for
Speaker 1: the entire Bengals thing, because we probably don't pay as
Speaker 1: much attention to them as as we should, and they
Speaker 1: to be on this stage now where they're playing against
Speaker 1: Green Bay. He is going to be good for this team.
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of with you, Dan, I think it's
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a nice stage to be on
Speaker 1: for for the Bengals, but they're not they right, He's
Speaker 1: picking up for this is very much a west Lock
Speaker 1: right here, his boy Aaron Rodgers against the team that
Speaker 1: he never has any faith in, the Bengals. Because it
Speaker 1: was funny last week because all the Westley brothers, brothers
Speaker 1: are at the game. It was so cool that the
Speaker 1: Bengals won for you know, for them, and Colleen mentions
Speaker 1: Chris on the broadcast and that was like amazing. But
Speaker 1: part of me was thinking, to like, man, Chris hated
Speaker 1: this this Bengals team. He would never he would never like,
Speaker 1: he would know what to do. He would love Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow and he loves that his family loves it, but
Speaker 1: I think this is like the moment where he would
Speaker 1: expect the Bengal season to start the create her. So
Speaker 1: that was always kind of a fun conversation with Chris
Speaker 1: Um after Burrow was drafted, because there was always that potential.
Speaker 1: He loves such a fun um quarterback with such a
Speaker 1: high ceiliens, just kind of a charismatic guy that and
Speaker 1: I think that's the vibe that you're picking up in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati on Thursday night as he was leading that comeback,
Speaker 1: like we might have something specially, this is something if
Speaker 1: we can keep this guy upright, we have a chance
Speaker 1: to really build uh, this organization back into a winner
Speaker 1: with this guy leading the way. And they you know,
Speaker 1: they couldn't protect him in the first two weeks. Uh,
Speaker 1: they did protect him in the last two weeks. I
Speaker 1: think they were moving people against the Jaguars. I know
Speaker 1: it was a Jaguars, but they were kind of pushing
Speaker 1: him around a little bit. That to me, that will
Speaker 1: be the story of this game because if the Green
Speaker 1: Bay offense isn't running um at full capacity and they're
Speaker 1: not putting any heat on Burrow, this game is gonna
Speaker 1: get very uncomfortable, very easily. I'm starting to talk to
Speaker 1: myself out of my life, but I'm going to stay
Speaker 1: the course and I still feel good about it. Um.
Speaker 1: But I'm I guess I'm saying I respect where the
Speaker 1: Bengals are at right now, and they if they do
Speaker 1: somehow beat the Packers, they start to become one of
Speaker 1: the biggest stories in the NFL. Because they are they
Speaker 1: will be seen as a Cinderella story on the rise.
Speaker 1: So that's that's a good one just to pick for
Speaker 1: Sky Just a quick West memory. I remember you obviously,
Speaker 1: we do the hits on Sky Sports and you guys
Speaker 1: come on and you were all doing them in your
Speaker 1: respective bunkers during the pandemic and wet last season. Came on,
Speaker 1: must have been week four or five, I think, and
Speaker 1: he was in his den or his office or wherever
Speaker 1: it was, and he had like a white board behind him.
Speaker 1: He always had just like a board behind him, and
Speaker 1: he had written up on their in scribbled marker, Penn
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is the real deal. Yeah, And I would
Speaker 1: say that to us like West, come on, this guy
Speaker 1: he could be the one. It's can you get back?
Speaker 1: Can you get back? Together? With the Bengals. He never
Speaker 1: budged an inch. West wasn't one to budge an inch
Speaker 1: once he had made a decision on something. But I
Speaker 1: always think someday he kept it going. H And by
Speaker 1: the way, just one last note on the Packers, Um Rogers,
Speaker 1: you know victory is big and small against the Steelers
Speaker 1: and Week four. To be able to work Randall Cobb
Speaker 1: into that game and have him be a factor five
Speaker 1: for sixty nine and two touchdowns after Cobb disappeared, I
Speaker 1: mean you know, you know that he slept even better knowing,
Speaker 1: Like did you see the celebration when he got Cobb
Speaker 1: but touchdown? I've never seen Aaron Rodgers looked more like
Speaker 1: a twenty two year old boy. He's so happy, he's
Speaker 1: there's still a few more days left. He's gonna get
Speaker 1: Clae Mathews a sack on something Behind the scenes, I
Speaker 1: honestly think Aaron Rogers it's more important to him to
Speaker 1: stick it to the GM goody than to win a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It's a good thing for the Packers and
Speaker 1: their fans. Is that kind of it all works together anyway?
Speaker 1: But if you actually uh peeled back the layers of
Speaker 1: the onion, like what his true motivation is it's making
Speaker 1: Goody look to be a fool, and that should be
Speaker 1: a ridiculous statement, but that sounds really really like winking
Speaker 1: at Mike Tomlin. He seems like he's having a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. All right, let's uh, Greg, why don't you
Speaker 1: grab the next game? Let's go forty Niners Cardinals in
Speaker 1: the late window. I hope this is Trey Lance his
Speaker 1: first NFL start, So I really want to see that.
Speaker 1: We're taping Wednesday evening here, uh in London, So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of unknowns right now. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a little bit strange right of the timetable. So Jimmy
Speaker 1: g leaves at halftime, and Henry's leaving, Like I would
Speaker 1: love to like hang out with Henry, butnately a sandwich.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to hang out with Hank in London
Speaker 1: because he's a handsome devil and you know he's got
Speaker 1: all sorts of contacts here. I want to take me
Speaker 1: to the post London Underground of nineteen sixty nine, Like,
Speaker 1: is there a way? I feel like you have some
Speaker 1: time travel possibilities here. What are we gonna get crazy tonight?
Speaker 1: The train? Okay, all right, not exactly what I had
Speaker 1: in mind. I thought we'd be wearing tight eye and
Speaker 1: listening to Magical Mystery Tour. I don't know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, uh where were we? You were talking about Jimmy.
Speaker 1: So he leaves at halftime with a calf. It's going
Speaker 1: to be a long one, he says immediately at the
Speaker 1: postgame press. So, yeah, I'm gonna be down. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: messed up. And then the next day Kyle Shannon is like, actually, no,
Speaker 1: it's a contusion. It's just a bruise, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he'll play. And and I guess Greg what jumps
Speaker 1: out to me with that is like, Kyle, and that's
Speaker 1: there's something that we don't know. This is your window
Speaker 1: to just let the kid get in there, get a
Speaker 1: start here. He got a half of football to get
Speaker 1: his feet wet, and and if Trey Lance plays really well,
Speaker 1: bam we roll forward. And if he doesn't, then you
Speaker 1: gave Jimmy an extra week off and you put him
Speaker 1: back in the lineup. Why wouldn't you take this opportunity
Speaker 1: to put it in the kid. I also, I totally
Speaker 1: agree with what you said. I also think that Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo on the topic is more reliable. How many times
Speaker 1: has Kyle Shannon lied about his quarterback situation just this
Speaker 1: year long? And so it doesn't when you have two
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks that are so different, my instinct would be
Speaker 1: he's just trying to make the Cardinals prepare for both.
Speaker 1: You're not happy that Jimmy's gonna right when Jimmy. When
Speaker 1: Garoppolo said that immediately, that was one of my first
Speaker 1: thoughts was like, players usually don't say that because coaches wanna,
Speaker 1: you know, keep that sense of suspense. I would expect
Speaker 1: it beat Tray Lance. And again I was totally wrong
Speaker 1: and thought it might be Andy Dalton a week ago,
Speaker 1: so you never know which way the coaches are trying
Speaker 1: to confuse you. It should be Trey Lance for this
Speaker 1: game because the Cardinals run defense is really bad, and
Speaker 1: I thought I thought the Rams would take advantage of it.
Speaker 1: And they did run the ball well early in that
Speaker 1: game with Darryl Henderson, and then they kind of lost
Speaker 1: track of it because they fell down by two scores
Speaker 1: and that hasn't been who they are this year. But
Speaker 1: if you go back and watch the Vikings destroyed them
Speaker 1: on the ground. The Jaguars ran the ball really well
Speaker 1: against them, and um, last week I thought the Rams
Speaker 1: did when they tried. So to me, Trey Lance like
Speaker 1: the first trade Lance start, you do not want to
Speaker 1: be the defensive team to go up against him because
Speaker 1: you're just not sure what he's gonna bring. It gives
Speaker 1: me a little r G three And in two thousand
Speaker 1: twelve Week one vibes, I would say that yes, from
Speaker 1: the from the running threat. Just looking at the game
Speaker 1: last week when he was in there, it was and
Speaker 1: we used this term with quarterbacks when they're not kind
Speaker 1: of settled or experienced. It was just too frantic, so
Speaker 1: like there wasn't his game plan though, yeah, true, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'd still I still worry that it was like
Speaker 1: too much and that he's too raw. You know the thing,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you do this, but we've got
Speaker 1: so we got like labrador dogs and like when you
Speaker 1: put a labrador dog in the middle of the living
Speaker 1: room and then say all the family members call him
Speaker 1: and said, if he comes to me, he loves me more.
Speaker 1: That was done. And your dogs like looking in every
Speaker 1: direction like every yeah, about five times per second. Dogs
Speaker 1: are dumb, And that was I'm not saying that Tray
Speaker 1: Lance is dumb. I'm just saying he moved his head
Speaker 1: around like he was my labrador or some of us there.
Speaker 1: As a RAF reminded me, you know, he reminded me
Speaker 1: a lot of was Josh Allen as a rookie good
Speaker 1: and bad, Like there's gonna be badass plays, but man
Speaker 1: like the bad throws are like, whoa, you're in the NFL. Wow,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Looks worse than when a quarterback does
Speaker 1: a full three sixty and it ends up right back
Speaker 1: where he should have beated the first place. It's gonna
Speaker 1: get And that's why unlocking the car. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: is that allowed? Oh yeah, that's understand. I'm with Ricky h.
Speaker 1: You never never get in lockstep with Ricky on the
Speaker 1: lock game. That is always they're a heavy favorite, but
Speaker 1: they're not a touchdown. I don't think listen, this is
Speaker 1: I can't you know. I know. Kyle Shanahan is a
Speaker 1: figure of fascination. Uh, he's always been on our podcast.
Speaker 1: Everyone loves Kyle Shanahan and I respect the hell out
Speaker 1: of him. And that's part of the reason why I
Speaker 1: can't wait for Jimmy g to be out of the picture.
Speaker 1: And I just they're not fun to watch, and I
Speaker 1: think that's why you should go. I was thinking about this,
Speaker 1: you know, writing qbn X because I thought this might
Speaker 1: be Jimmy G's last you know, sex check section in
Speaker 1: the article for the year, and it was like, if
Speaker 1: you think about and what I mean more is like
Speaker 1: what I mean more is like this is it for
Speaker 1: his time in San Francisco possibly, And what an anti
Speaker 1: climax because it really felt like this year they were
Speaker 1: chasing some sort of ideal that they had a few
Speaker 1: years ago, Like Jimmy G used to make some great throws,
Speaker 1: some throws with anticipation, some wow throws plays down the field,
Speaker 1: like the reference really used to look better, but this
Speaker 1: year it was it's so ultra safe with no big plays,
Speaker 1: and it was like they were chasing Nick Mullins. Like
Speaker 1: Nick Mullins playing quarterback moved the ball better. So for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, I don't know why, it just wasn't working.
Speaker 1: And I think this is a dangerous lock for you too.
Speaker 1: I will take the Cardinals in this game, but you
Speaker 1: can see not as Russian two. It's just such a
Speaker 1: surprise factor and the Cardinals in the same way that
Speaker 1: the Rams were coming off this statement when last week,
Speaker 1: are coming off this high moment. I would not pick
Speaker 1: against Kyler Murray right now. He has taken his play
Speaker 1: to another level. He's number one in the QB Index
Speaker 1: right now. He to me is just like he is
Speaker 1: seeing the field. He's making such good decisions and when
Speaker 1: he needs to improvise like he is the best. So
Speaker 1: I would still take the Cardinals. But I just the
Speaker 1: surprise factor of it all with this team. I got
Speaker 1: one a little worried one of the note on this game.
Speaker 1: And it's just funny when I sit so far away
Speaker 1: from the the action, thousands of miles away, but when
Speaker 1: when NFL worlds collide, it just makes me laugh. So
Speaker 1: Josh Norman was in the Super Bowl, was in the
Speaker 1: studio with with us. Remember when it was the Chief
Speaker 1: He stuck his finger right in my face. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but I have a picture of it. And
Speaker 1: on that show, Josh Norman labeled Jimmy Garoppolo a game manager.
Speaker 1: He actually said on it he's nothing more than a
Speaker 1: game match. Then I'm like, now, Josh just turned up
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. These worlds great and there haven't. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. Look at the snaps. One last thing on
Speaker 1: the forty nine. I think the Snaps tell the story,
Speaker 1: playing Josh Norman, playing Drake Kirkpatrick who they picked up
Speaker 1: two weeks ago sixty one snaps. Kyo us Check has
Speaker 1: played more in the last two weeks than he's ever
Speaker 1: played in his career. It's because it's like they need
Speaker 1: him most. A new who was almost out of the
Speaker 1: league is playing like steps. It's it's sort of eroded somehow.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it happened exactly, but it's definitely
Speaker 1: like the talent there thought of as this like really
Speaker 1: talented team, but like are they I mean they have
Speaker 1: a deep Deebo Samuel leads the league and receiving He's
Speaker 1: been having some big chunk plays it seems like every
Speaker 1: single week. And yeah, it's funny you have you have
Speaker 1: Kyler number one of QB Index. I have the Cards
Speaker 1: number one in the power rankings. I wonder how they
Speaker 1: come into this game coming off that high against the Rams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because big NFL dot Com people, they're checking a Tuesday
Speaker 1: power ranking Wednesday QB index gets straight to their head.
Speaker 1: I just wonder the lesson nine power rankings that we
Speaker 1: that we be annoyed at them because they're only second
Speaker 1: in those and he's like, you know, going back and
Speaker 1: finding the super Bowl coverage, finding that game manager line
Speaker 1: from Norman, like they're just all over the coverage that
Speaker 1: comes out of it emanates out of this hotel room.
Speaker 1: But no, I think if the Cardinals are going to
Speaker 1: have a letdown, it could happen this week. I still
Speaker 1: like the Cardinals. They're too good five and they're the
Speaker 1: only undefeated team left in the league. All right, Neil,
Speaker 1: let's do one more game? Did you pick one? I'm
Speaker 1: going to do it right now to get you off
Speaker 1: to your But I know how it works as well.
Speaker 1: I should have known that Cleveland at Chargers, and he
Speaker 1: thought of making this the second Sky game. Is it
Speaker 1: not too late? Do you know what? Do you want
Speaker 1: to go behind the curtain? Take me? All right? So
Speaker 1: we get we do we every Monday. We we have
Speaker 1: a group that discussed what the games are? Right? Do
Speaker 1: you have I am in that group? You have a
Speaker 1: loud voice in that Do have a Yeah? You carry
Speaker 1: I don't want to playing. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: carry the biggest stick. No, but we we do. We
Speaker 1: do discuss the games, and we discussed the games this week,
Speaker 1: and I was quite busy, and I've been writing the
Speaker 1: game programs for the London games, so I've been quite
Speaker 1: busy the last couple of weeks outside of broadcasting. Don't
Speaker 1: tell me about the labor show me the baby Bill
Speaker 1: Parcels and I I am nobody raised the Charges and
Speaker 1: Browns game, and I didn't call him on it, and
Speaker 1: if I would, so when did they go at Giants
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys? Those are good games? You know, there are
Speaker 1: three really great games. It's a great window this week.
Speaker 1: I can never go wrong watching justin Herbert, so I'm
Speaker 1: very excited for this game. Herbert. Of course, um, you
Speaker 1: know he is getting to the point. Herbert is playing
Speaker 1: at a level and you know he's one of the
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league now, there's no doubt about
Speaker 1: it week after week. But I think what really jumped
Speaker 1: out to me and Monday night, on Monday night or
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, depending where you are in the world, was
Speaker 1: how he's not doing it alone. I mean the Chargers
Speaker 1: they are We've always talked about this and it's always
Speaker 1: been kind of a frustration because they have all these
Speaker 1: great stars, but we can never get the stars aligned. Injuries.
Speaker 1: I have always played a factor. And now you have
Speaker 1: Joey Boss screaming off the edge. You have Derwin James
Speaker 1: closing out games with big players. You have Austin Ekeler.
Speaker 1: Pound for pound. That's a great nickname, by the way,
Speaker 1: pound for pounds one of the best nicknames, UH speaking nicknames.
Speaker 1: I have a article coming out in the UK programmed
Speaker 1: for the games here Dolphins Game, Dolphins Jack's Game, talking
Speaker 1: about the greatest nicknames in NFL history, the old Zeuser.
Speaker 1: It was a good, nice little hook there. Neil get
Speaker 1: tugboat involved on the copy there. I was happy to
Speaker 1: do it. But pound for pound Austin Ekeler, Yeah, was
Speaker 1: all over that signment. I love doing it. Um you
Speaker 1: know the one that gets me uncomfortable? Yeah? Which one?
Speaker 1: Daddy Rich? Oh yeah, that sounds That's the only one
Speaker 1: that I didn't give myself. That was a Chris Westling joint.
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, that one. Want to say something ba
Speaker 1: about Daddy Rich the christ we'll play that. What's the
Speaker 1: other one? The new Old Berman? Anyway, Austin ekelerd what
Speaker 1: he did. He completely carried uh the offense on Monday.
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't so much Herbert, although Herbert obviously
Speaker 1: played his role um So when everything's humming for the Chargers,
Speaker 1: they're hard to beat. And for Cleveland, it's like, I
Speaker 1: want to see this defense now with a big time assignment,
Speaker 1: and stopping the Chargers on the road is a big
Speaker 1: time So I'm not saying I need to be proved.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't say. I'm not saying Cleveland needs
Speaker 1: to prove to me that they're a legit defense, because
Speaker 1: they are. But how good Neil are the Browns on defense?
Speaker 1: I think this will be a real This will be
Speaker 1: this will be a real test. And I do think
Speaker 1: they've they've stepped up on defense, you know, all the
Speaker 1: additions have been real. I still feel I'm leaning towards
Speaker 1: the Charges on this one. I just there are certain
Speaker 1: players always love to watch my homes, you know. I
Speaker 1: always love to watch Aaron Rodgers and Justin Herbert. When
Speaker 1: I watch him, it's like when you're one of the
Speaker 1: haves against the have nots. In terms of a franchise quarterback,
Speaker 1: it's just a completely different game to watch. It's just
Speaker 1: you are a contender and you are watchable if nothing else,
Speaker 1: And I can't watch Justin Herbert through a normal lens.
Speaker 1: Now I'm a Dolphins fan. I'm always watching Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: and her it's through the tour lens. And I think
Speaker 1: we've seen enough. And I know people say, well, Tour
Speaker 1: was in and out of the lineup last year and
Speaker 1: two has been her I've seen enough Dolphins got it wrong.
Speaker 1: Well's that is not so much yet? Yeah, they did.
Speaker 1: Is that about to h It's about that this guy's
Speaker 1: a generational player. Yeah. I mean there's nothing to do
Speaker 1: if I'm not going to say that. Like Joe Ball,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit about too, because the Bengals. The
Speaker 1: Bengals also chose Joe Burrow over Justin. Joe Burrow is impressive.
Speaker 1: It's like I would take Justin. I would take I
Speaker 1: would not trade Justin Herbert for Joe Burrow in two
Speaker 1: first round picks. It's like, I just want Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: You know, I get it. But if you're not going
Speaker 1: to have Herbert, you're okay. If you're with Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: and if you're right now, you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: did we make the biggest mistake and franchisees. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's mistake the coach of Oregon. I don't know how
Speaker 1: college football is, you know, run that well, but you're
Speaker 1: running this thinking dunge off into the national champion because
Speaker 1: if you sold this the number one pick right, it
Speaker 1: was there all along. And it makes me think, like,
Speaker 1: which franchise would you rather be? This game is fascinating.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch this. It's crazy to think
Speaker 1: that the Browns and the Chargers come into this game
Speaker 1: feeling like two of the uh best run organizations in
Speaker 1: the NFL right just like that they're in the best
Speaker 1: spot that I'm not. The Chargers have had a lot
Speaker 1: of problems and so of the Browns, and the Browns
Speaker 1: seemed clearly on the right track and the Chargers, you know,
Speaker 1: we got to give them a little more time before
Speaker 1: we get there. But I believe in this coach at least,
Speaker 1: and they're in this new stadium that's great, and I
Speaker 1: believe in the quarterback. It's like, that's really all that
Speaker 1: matters is your coach and your quarterback more than anything,
Speaker 1: And like, would you rather be the Chargers or would
Speaker 1: you rather be the Browns? Right now? And ultimately I'd
Speaker 1: rather be the Chargers just because they have justin to
Speaker 1: choose one. I think so, I think, well, this year,
Speaker 1: I would maybe give the Browns a little bit of
Speaker 1: an edge of being a better team in the long run,
Speaker 1: But even that, I'm not sure I'd all be the
Speaker 1: charges of teams in the NFL now, I think justin
Speaker 1: habit's that good. They're loaded, They're loaded. And on the
Speaker 1: other side, you know, another first round pick, a quarterback,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. That was one of his worst games. Um,
Speaker 1: I've seen at least you know, since his rookie year. Um,
Speaker 1: that was one of the worst schemes of his career,
Speaker 1: fifteen of thirty three. And it wasn't just that he
Speaker 1: was inaccurate. It was some of the misses, you know,
Speaker 1: the that easy walk in touchdown that he couldn't connect
Speaker 1: with Odell Odell Beckham on type of throws. Just like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Is this a mechanics issue or what?
Speaker 1: I would say that this is not a time to
Speaker 1: panic necessarily because this has kind of always been part
Speaker 1: of the experience of Baker streaky. But it also made
Speaker 1: me think at a certain point greg the Brown's decision
Speaker 1: not to extend Mayfield, that that is looking more and
Speaker 1: more smart, because we need to see more from Baker.
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, if you want to get if you want
Speaker 1: to give this guy a second contract, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to show you that he is as a spice Rack
Speaker 1: put it when we were talking about the Bengals last
Speaker 1: week when they had, you know, about ten years ago,
Speaker 1: what he thought or eight years ago a super Bowl
Speaker 1: roster and a wild card quarterback? Like, are the Browns
Speaker 1: in that situation themselves with Baker or is this just
Speaker 1: something where it's a bump in the road. He'll be okay,
Speaker 1: yeah to me, the contracts, no rush. She has a
Speaker 1: fifth year option. He's under contract for two more years,
Speaker 1: you know, this year and next. So I'm with you,
Speaker 1: it makes sense to wait and see because you are
Speaker 1: going to learn a lot more about him in the
Speaker 1: second year. This is a tough matchup. Brandon Staley. Our
Speaker 1: guy Daniel Jeremiah pointed out that the Chargers have held
Speaker 1: each one of their opponents to the least amount of
Speaker 1: points that they've had this year. And those are good offenses,
Speaker 1: you know, those are offenses like the Chiefs, and and
Speaker 1: I know it's not like they shut them down, but
Speaker 1: they made enough big plays they really shut down the
Speaker 1: Raiders like they're I think they're a tough team to
Speaker 1: prepare for. I would really be afraid if I'm the
Speaker 1: rest of the a f C West and just as
Speaker 1: a charge. As a long time Chargers fan, I can't
Speaker 1: believe I wasn't higher on them this year. They have
Speaker 1: shown so much variety. I'm just saying this is I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it's a long time Chargers, but you really
Speaker 1: you always trying to push back on the narrative that
Speaker 1: you're a fan of thirty one teams. The Chargers are
Speaker 1: that are As a long time Chargers, I mean, Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers has always been a little my guy and Herbert
Speaker 1: from the get go. They've been my number two if
Speaker 1: I had a number two. My point is I didn't
Speaker 1: expect their coachings have to be this ahead of the game.
Speaker 1: They've shown so much variety in all four weeks. I
Speaker 1: think that's what really impresses me. Each week is a
Speaker 1: very different game plan, and they have helped They have
Speaker 1: handled them pretty well. They cut down on some of
Speaker 1: the sloppy stuff. I don't think this is a, you know,
Speaker 1: anything more than a field goal game. I have a
Speaker 1: hard time picking. I don't know who I'm going to take,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm leaning Chargers. I think I would I
Speaker 1: would pick Charges. I think it's Brown's defense pretty sweet though,
Speaker 1: and the offensive the running game is sweet. Like they
Speaker 1: just need to be Baker and they're gonna beat most
Speaker 1: every team. I just think when you look at the
Speaker 1: Baker situation and you look at Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert's
Speaker 1: already kind of knocking on Patrick mahomes door and right
Speaker 1: up in that neighborhood, I think, is Baker Mayfield ever
Speaker 1: going to get to that that level? I thinking around right,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't. I think is better and more complete
Speaker 1: than the Chargers, and so he doesn't need to be
Speaker 1: at that level, Like they could have gone won the
Speaker 1: suion and doesn't if they had this defense at the time.
Speaker 1: I really believe it. And I get the numbers weren't
Speaker 1: great last week, and the numbers make it look like
Speaker 1: it was a bad game, But why where it's worse?
Speaker 1: His numbers can be deceiving. It's what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Big moments? And he missed the Odell pass than which
Speaker 1: you're right to point out that's relatively routine throw for
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. How about the Kareem Hunt won in
Speaker 1: the first quarter. That was more the one that got
Speaker 1: me going, because it's just kind of the classic Baker
Speaker 1: play where he's on the move and and you either
Speaker 1: not quite athletic enough to make it, maybe like Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: maybe misses that throw too, and but just you want
Speaker 1: your quarterback to be able to make that throw that
Speaker 1: should be routine at this point in the NFL being
Speaker 1: able to make that throw on the run and he
Speaker 1: overshot it. It's a flashpoint game for the Browns because
Speaker 1: if you know, if they go to l A and
Speaker 1: they play a great game and that defense dominates Herbert
Speaker 1: and they win, they will be a team that Clowney
Speaker 1: is a problem, your boy Clowney. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: players on that defense, and it is a good looking
Speaker 1: defense if they if they go, if they go into
Speaker 1: l A and when people are going to be uh
Speaker 1: pumped up about this Browns team as a super Bowl favorite. Potentially, Conversely,
Speaker 1: if Baker bombs out again, there's gonna be a panic
Speaker 1: in the streets of Cleveland that, oh my god, we
Speaker 1: have this great team and the quarterback is lost. So
Speaker 1: I'm very interesting. I feel like this is a coin
Speaker 1: flip game. I'm gonna put I'm gonna give Herbert respect.
Speaker 1: That got the chargers, um Neil. Before we say goodbye, Greg,
Speaker 1: Erica and I are going to move out of the
Speaker 1: way a second because Greg would like to address something
Speaker 1: with you. Well, that's true. We're in this hotel. Um,
Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't stay where we're staying. You just have
Speaker 1: well you can, you can edit that out. And it's
Speaker 1: giving me memories. I I only stayed here once before.
Speaker 1: It was in two thousand sixteen, and I remember, this
Speaker 1: is so awkward. I want to leave the room. It's
Speaker 1: not awkward at all. I'm loving I like awkwardness is
Speaker 1: when I feel most myself. We know, um, And it
Speaker 1: was two thousand sixteen, and I remember Dan and Mark
Speaker 1: called me in West. Now I'm feeling awkward because Eric
Speaker 1: is putting a video on me. Don't put a video
Speaker 1: on um. And you know we called up. We we did,
Speaker 1: uh we. I did a little bit of the show
Speaker 1: that night, was about one thirty in the morning. That
Speaker 1: night had been a long day, and I gave a
Speaker 1: little giant Rams recap. You know, tough day for Jared
Speaker 1: Goff for for case Keenum. Yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: case Keenum. It was like, why aren't you putting in
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, Jeff Fisher. He's like, okay, maybe you want
Speaker 1: to get back from the UK. But the real reason
Speaker 1: I remember it is because I made an ass out
Speaker 1: of myself that night, and I just wanted to extend
Speaker 1: an apology to Neo and the rest of the Sky
Speaker 1: Sports crew whole gang for some derogatory comments I made
Speaker 1: in the in the heat of the moment with the
Speaker 1: TV in the corner and just having fun feeling my owns.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm traveling international for the NFL for the first time.
Speaker 1: I've been working for eighteen hours. It's just an excuse
Speaker 1: that doesn't excuse bad behavior. And I made a couple
Speaker 1: of comments that you know, we don't have to repeat here,
Speaker 1: but basically alluded to, um, do you remember the comments
Speaker 1: that you're around the team, could do could do a
Speaker 1: great job on Scott. Remember my response, yes, we'd like
Speaker 1: to hear that so well. First of all, point number one,
Speaker 1: I wasn't overly offended because I wasn't the anchor then,
Speaker 1: so it was different. I did sort of out that
Speaker 1: that the host, you know, was putting it on the
Speaker 1: wrong tracks. Neil was in a tough spot in the
Speaker 1: analyst role. It was. It was a tough situation. I
Speaker 1: definitely remember reaching back out to Greg. Uh, do you
Speaker 1: think you are rosen tall? You'll never make it in
Speaker 1: my country? Ever, it's a lone I actually I wish
Speaker 1: I had said that. I reached out through a handsome handcard,
Speaker 1: dear friend Henry Hodgson, and I told you to come
Speaker 1: and be a part of the solution and not to Uh.
Speaker 1: I haven't even gotten point number three he did, and
Speaker 1: point number three apology accepted. Apology wasn't needed. And you know,
Speaker 1: I love you guys. So now you're part of the
Speaker 1: fraternity until Gregor fend you in some way and you
Speaker 1: have to work through personal issues with him, and now
Speaker 1: you're truly part of the group. He didn't need to
Speaker 1: do that. No, No, it was a genuine apology. It
Speaker 1: was not it was not fair to you. Um, it
Speaker 1: was it was you know, my mouth has gotten me
Speaker 1: in trouble sometimes it was bad. What I look back
Speaker 1: on it and think is funny in some way. You
Speaker 1: got to take some humor out of these is like
Speaker 1: no one really said anything. We just put it up
Speaker 1: like no It was no consideration. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: like we're doing a live show. We just like put
Speaker 1: it up. And what I remember most about it, um,
Speaker 1: because it did occur to me, was that a good idea,
Speaker 1: not for like, hey, are we ever gonna work with
Speaker 1: these guys, because I felt pretty confident I was, you know,
Speaker 1: putting that one up in flames that was never gonna happen. Um.
Speaker 1: But it was the tone of the messages that I
Speaker 1: got from Henry Hodgson disappointed. Henry, it was he was pissed.
Speaker 1: He still was pissed. I brought up this idea of
Speaker 1: apologizing to you, of bringing it up, um, And even
Speaker 1: now he just says, well, yeah, you were. You were
Speaker 1: such a you're an asshole. You should be apologizing. It's
Speaker 1: about time to you know, you know, squash that beef.
Speaker 1: And I was like, there was no beef. Neil and
Speaker 1: I did speak about talking about pretty soon after the saying.
Speaker 1: We talked about it soon after got to yeah, we've
Speaker 1: had a great relationship since good and it shows I know,
Speaker 1: this shows your own personal growth as well. Greg, So
Speaker 1: let's give it was unlucky. It was unlucky for Greg
Speaker 1: as well, because it was I was still in that
Speaker 1: checks Twitter every five minutes phase of my broadcasting career,
Speaker 1: whereas now I go on ours live TV. I don't
Speaker 1: care what people say. I don't even look at it.
Speaker 1: Give a show now. But that was that was wow,
Speaker 1: that was that was nice. It's a nice way to
Speaker 1: end it. And Neil, we will be with Neil Reynolds
Speaker 1: all week we're heading Greig didn't realize he's gonna be
Speaker 1: with me, all right, And do you have a chance
Speaker 1: to get revenge? By the way, just uninviting Greg for
Speaker 1: the rest of the cover. I mean not for nothing
Speaker 1: I have. We have helped be part of the solution.
Speaker 1: We've made that Sky Sports coverage better. There we go.
Speaker 1: Neil will be with you at Sky Sports later this week.
Speaker 1: We will be helping your gang with the coverage of
Speaker 1: the Jets and Falcons. We can't wait to do it.
Speaker 1: And Buddy, UH really appreciate you coming by here to
Speaker 1: the hotel and Uh it's been great and thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. And that was perfect timing because I've
Speaker 1: just finished the coffee that I brought for myself. I
Speaker 1: just got to the end of it. I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: this as an opportunity to stop down and get something
Speaker 1: to drink myself. All right, there goes Neil Reynolds, king
Speaker 1: of his domain. We roll forward. Now, let's um, let's
Speaker 1: go through all the games in order. Let's drop the
Speaker 1: draft because it's gonna be a funky week for us, Greg,
Speaker 1: We're gonna be at the stadium doing the sky coverage.
Speaker 1: Can't wait for that. UM, So let's just um go
Speaker 1: through the games in order from this point onward. So
Speaker 1: let's start speaking of the game at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium,
Speaker 1: the Hot Toddy, the Big Tot, the Big Top over
Speaker 1: the Big Tot, the New York Jets at the Atlanta
Speaker 1: Falcons to one in three teams. Um, here's the thing, Greggy,
Speaker 1: I was extremely worried because everything always works out terribly
Speaker 1: as a Jets fan. I was extremely worried that I
Speaker 1: was going to be on a plane going to London,
Speaker 1: UH to cover an owen four Jets team coming off
Speaker 1: four dispiriting losses in a row where Zach Wilson was
Speaker 1: making no progress and everything was going wrong in the
Speaker 1: Jets were the worst team in football. They're still not
Speaker 1: far off from that. Okay, there's still a lot of problems.
Speaker 1: The Jets are a work in progress, very much so.
Speaker 1: But what we saw and I'm very interested. We haven't
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk about this, Craig. What we
Speaker 1: saw from Wilson in that game against the Titans gives
Speaker 1: me hope that this season could have some real exciting
Speaker 1: moments going forward. He might drive me crazy with some
Speaker 1: mistakes he makes, because he made his fair show against Tennessee.
Speaker 1: But Zack Wilson made the splash plays we were waiting for,
Speaker 1: and it helped them beat the Titans, especially as a
Speaker 1: chance this week at the big Hot Toddy Hot Toddy
Speaker 1: the top the todd. I mean, he's got to be
Speaker 1: Boomer Bucks. He just took your first sip. It's not
Speaker 1: the copy. Wait, wait, before you should we just say
Speaker 1: real quick what Dan did when he came back into
Speaker 1: my hotel room. I had my back on, you know,
Speaker 1: sitting on the side of the bed, and I was
Speaker 1: just looking at some you know, information for NFL stuff,
Speaker 1: and I hear sort of like rumbling, and I turned
Speaker 1: behind it. Dan has his coffee and my coffee in
Speaker 1: his hands, and he's hunched over like trying to be
Speaker 1: a gremlin, and he's making it like a Steve Belichick
Speaker 1: sideline face with the tongue on bla la la la,
Speaker 1: and then Greg's just behind him slowly. I didn't you
Speaker 1: know we That was actually a lesson. I it's Greg
Speaker 1: and eyes responsibility on some level to protect you here
Speaker 1: in London. And what I was trying to teach you
Speaker 1: was you don't leave your hotel room ajar the door ajar.
Speaker 1: And it shows you a gremlin can just roll in
Speaker 1: at any time if you don't protect yourself. You're a
Speaker 1: woman alone in a hotel room. That's a lesson. I
Speaker 1: knew you, guys, I knew you'd be right back. And
Speaker 1: you never know if Steve Belichick is walking around there.
Speaker 1: Literally could not be more scary thing than Steve Belichick
Speaker 1: rolling into your hotel room. Well, we walked away, We
Speaker 1: walked across to the to the tube station. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of Steve Belichick looking guys over there out England
Speaker 1: takes a shot in a big spot anyway, No wonder
Speaker 1: you know, Hanky cleaned up. You know, Zack Wilson um
Speaker 1: has a chance to do things against the Falcons Greg
Speaker 1: who once again, uh could not get out of their
Speaker 1: own way. They're very luckily lucky to have the win themselves.
Speaker 1: That Giants game, Uh, they kind of stole that at
Speaker 1: the end, got got a lucky break on a Doory
Speaker 1: Jackson interception drop, and then they find a way to
Speaker 1: kick away a game at home to Washington, and it's
Speaker 1: just like Arthur Smith is going to age like a
Speaker 1: sitting US president. It's even doubt they should be a
Speaker 1: one in three team. The Jets should be a one
Speaker 1: in three team. That that's what they are. One of
Speaker 1: these teams gotta feel pretty good. They're coming back off
Speaker 1: the last fight, a long flight two and three out
Speaker 1: of the start of this season. Zach Wilson made a
Speaker 1: lot of mistakes in that game against the Titans. I
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily expecting that, just that I chart like near
Speaker 1: picks or near turnovers, and I had him for more
Speaker 1: in that game than uh in the Patriots game. So
Speaker 1: he put the ball in Harm's way quite a bit.
Speaker 1: But he made three or four throws that were just ridiculous,
Speaker 1: that were like god mode level throws. And it's like,
Speaker 1: if you give us that mix as a rookie, then
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot of fun, especially when we
Speaker 1: play teams that can't really rush the passer or aren't
Speaker 1: great in the secondary, and that's what we got this week,
Speaker 1: the Falcons lousy defense. I think the Falcons offense is
Speaker 1: coming together. That was easily the best Matt Ryan looked
Speaker 1: with Arthur Smith. Maybe he's getting more comfortable. I think
Speaker 1: we could have some points in this game, could have
Speaker 1: some points. Marcus May again out for the Jets. Their
Speaker 1: secondary has been better than expected, their defense has been
Speaker 1: better than expected. But you imagine that Matt Ryan will
Speaker 1: be able to move the ball, Kyle Pitts breaks through.
Speaker 1: And by the way, we do have um another lock
Speaker 1: involved with this game. It comes from West Incorporated. Wow
Speaker 1: listening the podcast being in London, We're going to focus
Speaker 1: on Jets Falcons this week. We all thought the Falcons
Speaker 1: offense would be explosive. Has been disappointing to say the least,
Speaker 1: and that Jet t has looked okay. Zack Wilson showed
Speaker 1: us a little something last week and that's why we
Speaker 1: are all, hell no, we can't lock up the Jets.
Speaker 1: They stink the Falcons big and we're locking it up. Haymark,
Speaker 1: if you're listening, get Wilson. Isn't the same without you.
Speaker 1: I love you. Bron Yes, yet, well, Mark sess, I
Speaker 1: don't understand why. I don't know why I deserve that.
Speaker 1: That was a little untour. But then I think about
Speaker 1: I locked up against his blove at Cincinnati Bengals. That
Speaker 1: wasn't on purpose either, So I'm not gonna take it personal.
Speaker 1: Plus like, yeah, that was weird. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna come with that much, do it with a little
Speaker 1: more pizzas, a little more personality. I've seen Nick in
Speaker 1: a bar. I mean, this guy is one of the
Speaker 1: most fiery, uh guys in delivering a sports take opinion
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I think you're gonna bury the Jets,
Speaker 1: just burying, that's fair. And I think Nick he's trying
Speaker 1: to show like he's like the James Dean of the
Speaker 1: Westling Brothers. He's a little cool and a a little detached,
Speaker 1: a little kind of ironic and a little winking and subversive.
Speaker 1: That's what Nick's going for. Uh, let's let's drop. Let's
Speaker 1: drop the acniic. We want the real Nick Westling next
Speaker 1: time you make your pick. And by the way, but
Speaker 1: you better be careful what you wish for. I always
Speaker 1: look for a new head coach. Did they bring something
Speaker 1: to the table. Is there something to find that they
Speaker 1: definitely have? And when you got Jonathan Franklin Myers and
Speaker 1: fought A Kassi and all these Bryces I never heard of.
Speaker 1: You got Bryce Hall, Bryce Huff. I don't know who
Speaker 1: these guys are, but they're coming after you. And that
Speaker 1: like when you're taking other guys players and you're making
Speaker 1: them into players, that shows me you got something. Sal
Speaker 1: is a really good defensive coach. And I say it
Speaker 1: to you every Sunday. See j Mosley is making plays
Speaker 1: every week as well. All right, let's move forward. Up
Speaker 1: next on the docket, we have good one the Eagles
Speaker 1: at the Panthers. Did you say a good one? You're
Speaker 1: excited about this. I'm not enjoying Eagles football. It's not
Speaker 1: very watchable. You're gonna get but it's watch Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like the last two weeks I
Speaker 1: haven't found them overly watchable. And the fact that you
Speaker 1: know they continue to make these mistakes. You talk about
Speaker 1: Robert Salo and you're seeing some good things about what
Speaker 1: he's bringing to them, especially on the defensive side. Of all.
Speaker 1: The the lack of attention to detail fundamentals, just general mistakes. Um,
Speaker 1: you could look at that and say, Hm, this Nick
Speaker 1: Sirianni experiment maybe not off to a great start. And
Speaker 1: now they go to Charlotte to face the Panthers. Who
Speaker 1: I gotta say, Greg, you take out a phenomenal third
Speaker 1: quarter by the Cowboys, and you can't really do that
Speaker 1: because you've got to look at the game as a whole.
Speaker 1: But they really did play the Cowboys tough for most
Speaker 1: of that game. Um, with the exception of that third quarter.
Speaker 1: I I came out of the game the two three
Speaker 1: and oh teams that people have questions about the Broncos
Speaker 1: and the Panthers. The Broncos that came out of their
Speaker 1: loss of the Ravens being like, Okay, I don't know
Speaker 1: about them. The Panthers I came out of being like,
Speaker 1: that's okay, they'll be all right. And now they have
Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmour. I mean, what a trade. Stefan Gilmore is
Speaker 1: a Carolina Panther. All they have to do is give
Speaker 1: up a sixth round pick for him. We anticipate, where's
Speaker 1: the g m app that's it? Round pick? No one
Speaker 1: wanted him. This is two thousand nineteen Defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year, A cornerback, and I know he's coming off
Speaker 1: a major injury, but we also don't even know how serious.
Speaker 1: You know, the quad injury was so mixed up in
Speaker 1: the stew with the contract squabble, that would it surprise
Speaker 1: you Gilmore all of a sudden pops up and is
Speaker 1: playing in a couple of weeks and is a big
Speaker 1: time performer for them. No, he's on the pup list,
Speaker 1: so he's out at least a week or two more.
Speaker 1: He wanted more money from the Patriots. There was a standoff.
Speaker 1: According I'm kind of piecing together a bunch of reports,
Speaker 1: but Albert Bera had some of this ian at some
Speaker 1: of it. I think the Patriots surprised him by putting
Speaker 1: that notice out today saying that he was going to
Speaker 1: be released. I think he was hoping to work something
Speaker 1: out for the with the Patriots. It sounded like the
Speaker 1: Patriots were kind of just done with this whole standoff.
Speaker 1: The standoff was we want to see you on the
Speaker 1: field before we give you any more money, and his
Speaker 1: position was I want more money before I get on
Speaker 1: the field, And maybe he thought there was more time
Speaker 1: to negotiate because he was on the publist. It didn't happen.
Speaker 1: They got sick of it and they got rid of him.
Speaker 1: That's a big risk. A torn quad, though, is an
Speaker 1: injury that's changed career as it's ended some careers. He's
Speaker 1: later in his career, and the key here is that
Speaker 1: he wants more money now. So the Panthers, I anticipate
Speaker 1: are going to give him a hefty raise for this
Speaker 1: year and likely into next year as part of that.
Speaker 1: That's why apparently no team wanted to trade for him,
Speaker 1: because the report was that the Patriots put some feelers
Speaker 1: out there, couldn't get anything yesterday, and then their version
Speaker 1: of the g m AP damn was just putting this
Speaker 1: report out that they're gonna cut them and see if
Speaker 1: they can scare up something. All they got was it's
Speaker 1: almost such a shameful return, and it's such a great
Speaker 1: player who helped them win a title that it's almost like,
Speaker 1: don't even don't even don't even do it, Just get
Speaker 1: give him, let him free. This is a man who
Speaker 1: I passed by every uh day on the way to
Speaker 1: our office because his picture is is on the top
Speaker 1: of the shut Down Corner. There's a conference room called
Speaker 1: Shutdown Corner Conference Room. It's Gilmore making that leaping interception
Speaker 1: against the Rams to seal that Super Bowl. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm bored of it, just like all the Patriots fans
Speaker 1: that get mad at me listen to the show or
Speaker 1: a board of it, like me having critical comments about
Speaker 1: Bill Bill Belichick. But it's like it does again point
Speaker 1: to that no one's bigger than the team. I don't
Speaker 1: care if you're a star. I don't care what you've
Speaker 1: ever done for me in the past. I will get
Speaker 1: rid of you. I will move on without you if
Speaker 1: you're not going along with my plan. And it's just
Speaker 1: I just wonder as you as you spin forward with
Speaker 1: the Patriots post Brady, you know that will become an
Speaker 1: issue in terms of being able to recruit top free agents.
Speaker 1: When you see these big time stars leave the building
Speaker 1: and and and acrimonious terms. I think that's just you know,
Speaker 1: the way this ended is it's pretty grim. This guy
Speaker 1: has been uglier. It's been much uglier for a lot
Speaker 1: of other players, leaving Assante Samuel Richard Seymour. This always
Speaker 1: had a measure of respect. Bill Belges like love Gilmore,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't going to give more money coming off
Speaker 1: this torn quad he just wasn't gonna do it, and
Speaker 1: and they might be right, and the Panthers are going
Speaker 1: to like they might be right. The Patriots usually are
Speaker 1: right when they give these players away. Um, but it's
Speaker 1: it's worth a shot for the Panthers. Wow, what a
Speaker 1: defense they're putting together. I think you saw after touch, Greg,
Speaker 1: how about a little bit of a softer touch in
Speaker 1: New England that the fact that it got to this
Speaker 1: point it was so acrimonious, maybe if you handle it
Speaker 1: a little bit different. Was it acrimonious? Though it really
Speaker 1: seemed it seemed like it went very well between the
Speaker 1: two sides. I'm sure Gilmore he didn't. He didn't say
Speaker 1: a word the whole time, and he and he expressed
Speaker 1: regret that he couldn't work it out, and they always
Speaker 1: talked great about him. I think they tried to keep
Speaker 1: it professional, but it was just like it's a business
Speaker 1: and they felt they felt differently. Let's stalk the game.
Speaker 1: He wasn't quite he wasn't quite the same player when
Speaker 1: we last saw him, and he's now coming off an injury.
Speaker 1: In theory, I think the Eagles have the game plan
Speaker 1: to do a little bit of what Dallas did a
Speaker 1: week ago, which was really pushed around Carolina up front.
Speaker 1: They hopefully get Lane Johnson back, he was out with
Speaker 1: a personal issue last week. They might get Jordans my
Speaker 1: Latta back. I think it's a it's a boom or
Speaker 1: bust offense, but it's a frisky offense. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't just chalk this up as a win for the Panthers,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, I mean you got a garbage
Speaker 1: time score to make that look better for the Eagles.
Speaker 1: They also, I will say, you know, they had four
Speaker 1: fifty yards of offense against the Chiefs. So I think
Speaker 1: overall it's it's a mixed bag Philadelphia right now. Um,
Speaker 1: but I would say that Jalen Hurts is progressing. I
Speaker 1: think he's showing you, maybe not that he's some breakout start,
Speaker 1: but that he has the ability to get the team
Speaker 1: moving and move the ball. So we'll see what he
Speaker 1: does against this Carolina front and what's the type of
Speaker 1: game that Carol Carolina wants to make the playoffs. A
Speaker 1: home game against the Eagles. You're three and one, You're
Speaker 1: without McCaffrey. Darnold has been not facing a lot of
Speaker 1: heat last week. I think he's handled it okay, but
Speaker 1: I think it's a tough thing to ask week after week.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is not played as well, so that's
Speaker 1: something to watch. It's a big game for the Panthers.
Speaker 1: Shack Thompson out. He has been just the breakout star
Speaker 1: that defense this year. So that's another thing for Carolina overcome.
Speaker 1: Remember Christian McCaffrey not on I r UM, so I
Speaker 1: guess you could see a possibility that he returns next
Speaker 1: week logically, but we shall see. I think they kept
Speaker 1: that door open just in case a tweet just now.
Speaker 1: That good news is McCaffrey was practicing today even so
Speaker 1: maybe he maybe he plays in this game. Interesting, that
Speaker 1: would be huge. Tuba Tuba Hubbard, Cuba. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: he looked pretty good. Actually, So even if McCaffrey um
Speaker 1: doesn't play, I don't think it means they're running game
Speaker 1: is shot. But if you have McCaffrey in the mix,
Speaker 1: that would be huge. Right up next, let's go to
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Patriots. So the Patriots now the post post
Speaker 1: Tom Brady post Tom Brady week for madness. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they're very happy to have that in the rear view.
Speaker 1: Now it's post Stephon Gilmore and a nice little spot
Speaker 1: for them. I know there are no gimmes, especially when
Speaker 1: you're one in three team, but when you're kind of
Speaker 1: trying to get your season back on track, a trip
Speaker 1: to Houston to face Davis Mills and the Texans is
Speaker 1: very nice because any the kind of sweet story about
Speaker 1: Houston Texans fighting hard didn't attract to well last week
Speaker 1: against Buffalo, and in general they are back to me
Speaker 1: uh as the worst team in football. Oh yeah, with
Speaker 1: Davis Mills. If the Patriots lost to Davis Mills, oh boy,
Speaker 1: that would be that would be nerv trade for stuff
Speaker 1: on Gilmore give up like a third round pick. Um.
Speaker 1: I wonder if the great performance by the Patriots secondary
Speaker 1: against Tom Brady, in which they showed incredible communication and cohesion,
Speaker 1: very vintage Patriots passing off receiver is next level stuff,
Speaker 1: and they've gotten better each week. I wonder if that
Speaker 1: influenced it. That Bill Belichick thought we don't really need
Speaker 1: Gilmore still doesn't make sense to me, Um, because can't
Speaker 1: you just make them play? Was you're gonna sit out
Speaker 1: the whole season? If even if you didn't want to
Speaker 1: give him an that I'm just saying I wonder if
Speaker 1: that helped that. It's also like a steady rain, if
Speaker 1: you were drawing your confidence of your defense off that
Speaker 1: one game. I don't know the secondary. I think what
Speaker 1: they threw out of back to the game plan, I
Speaker 1: imagine the weather. I think they you know, from all accounts,
Speaker 1: I'm not like Greg Costell, you know, knocking down all
Speaker 1: these exce and nose. But from what everyone said in
Speaker 1: terms of what they showed Brady changing looks basically every
Speaker 1: play and being able to accomplish that, I mean, they
Speaker 1: should be able to scramble Davis Mills, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're adding Jamie Collins back to the mix.
Speaker 1: So like, wait, what about the idea of like, all right,
Speaker 1: not to get hung up on this, but you're like,
Speaker 1: we need to get Jamie Collins back in the building.
Speaker 1: The only way is to clear the cap spaces to
Speaker 1: trade steff On Gilmore for a sixth round pick. Jamie Collins.
Speaker 1: You need him back in the building so bad that
Speaker 1: you're gonna pull the trigger and on the rip chord
Speaker 1: on Stephan Gilmore defensive player that you're Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 1: I give up. I don't think well, Jamie Collins is
Speaker 1: the super Bowl champion too. I believe probably that's just
Speaker 1: a guess. At some point he must have been on
Speaker 1: one of us two fourteen. I think, Ricky, can you
Speaker 1: find out Jamie Collins is a super Bowl ring thank you?
Speaker 1: And I think they had the cap space. I wonder
Speaker 1: about Jamie Collins joining this group, but I think it's
Speaker 1: telling because their linebackers aren't getting it done. We were
Speaker 1: sitting very close to each other in that film room, Dan,
Speaker 1: you did not um paint an accurate picture. We were
Speaker 1: having fun. We were having mail bonding with other males too. Well.
Speaker 1: Traditional male bonding sometimes eludes you. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if if you really were understanding of that that there
Speaker 1: was some tension between us because you left two extra seats.
Speaker 1: But like, like um, like any game, if you watch
Speaker 1: with me and we're just kind of watching his fans,
Speaker 1: like I'll just speech shouting out some Pat's opinions. One
Speaker 1: of them is like Dante Heidtower and Kyle Vanoy are
Speaker 1: kind of killing that. They're not killing them, but they
Speaker 1: are not who they were in nineteen. You can see
Speaker 1: the lack of speed. Uh, It's it's a problem in
Speaker 1: this kind of spread him out NFL High Tower especially
Speaker 1: as a bit of a bummer to watch because he's
Speaker 1: an all time great and I don't I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know a way for the COVID opt out and
Speaker 1: came back a different guy. I guess it could happen.
Speaker 1: That's the risk you run. He's getting up there. I
Speaker 1: think he might be thirty two thirty three, So that's
Speaker 1: pretty find out how old High Tower is. He's also
Speaker 1: he's also played a lot of games sing at a
Speaker 1: brutal position and uh yeah, Collins has just added to
Speaker 1: that mix, I think because they need help there. He
Speaker 1: plays a very similar position. Hind Tower is thirty one
Speaker 1: years old. Kyle Vanoy is thirty years old. That's getting
Speaker 1: up there. Remember my birthday February ten, Super Bowl weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be thirty, so I'm slowing down as well.
Speaker 1: And Jamie Collins was drafted by the Patriots in the
Speaker 1: second round of NFL Draft and won a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with the team a year later ago. Well, Champions never
Speaker 1: Flags fly forever. They did trade him during their next
Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearance because he quit on the Cleveland twice. Right.
Speaker 1: This is multiple times he's quit on teams and previous
Speaker 1: stop the Detroit lines. They have a game that technically
Speaker 1: as part of the NFL, it is against the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1: Your team, this is a team of zeus disappointed me
Speaker 1: against the Browns. I have to say there is no
Speaker 1: shame in being stymied by Cleveland's defense. It's a great unit.
Speaker 1: They're even, like Greg said, getting good play out of
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney. Uh. And you know that needs to be
Speaker 1: said to get They're great in the back end, and
Speaker 1: you saw that with Kirk Cousins, who you know, went
Speaker 1: right down the field on their first possession, and then
Speaker 1: the Vikings shut out the rest of the game. They
Speaker 1: lose War teen seven, and they really could not get
Speaker 1: anything going. Um. But thankfully the Lions are here uh
Speaker 1: to give the Vikings their swagger back. So this this
Speaker 1: is a one in three Vikings team against an owned
Speaker 1: four Lions team. But it's still even though I understand
Speaker 1: it's a bad job by the Vikes to come out
Speaker 1: of the gates slowly for the second straight year like this,
Speaker 1: I've remained confident that they are a good team. They
Speaker 1: are a playoff bubble team, and what a good playoff
Speaker 1: bubble team. Does at home against the Lions is kick ass,
Speaker 1: and that's what's gonna happen here. Here's what you need
Speaker 1: all you need to know about the Lions. They are
Speaker 1: the second biggest underdog in any game this week, and
Speaker 1: they are playing against a one and th team who
Speaker 1: scored seven points last night. Well, the Desert knows that
Speaker 1: the Vikings are typical one in three team. But I
Speaker 1: see your point. Detroit's had a lot of bad luck.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's six, seven, eight teams who have
Speaker 1: now lost six to eight starters so many injuries, and
Speaker 1: the Lions happened to be one of them. So they
Speaker 1: are Eddie, We're in a really tough spot. They are
Speaker 1: the worst defense in the league. They're competitive offensively, but
Speaker 1: the worst defensive league. Going up against this Vikings team,
Speaker 1: it almost makes me think they should just sit Dalvin Cook,
Speaker 1: get him healthier. You don't need Dalvin Cook for a week.
Speaker 1: I know the NFL doesn't work like that normally, but
Speaker 1: it should, Like, look at the long game. Win a
Speaker 1: game with Alexander Madison because Cooks fantasy owners cursing you
Speaker 1: off right now as they listen to our show. But
Speaker 1: you don't want him a bunch of ten for fifties
Speaker 1: and then he leaves with an injury. He's toppled on
Speaker 1: that ankle. It's an issue. I'm impressed by Everson Griffin
Speaker 1: the way he's come back. Him and Hunter are a
Speaker 1: great one to tandem. Their defense should not be overlooked.
Speaker 1: They played well last week. I think the they will roll.
Speaker 1: Were were not allowed to lock this game rouse obviously, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean linebacker Romeo Kwara, he was their most important
Speaker 1: player on defense. Sewell got hurt too and his missing practice.
Speaker 1: So but to blow you to blow your achilles tendon
Speaker 1: is such a devastating injury. And that's the same in
Speaker 1: Jeffe Couda had in Week one. Uh. They their offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think their center just went on I R as well.
Speaker 1: So when you have a team that is talent deficient
Speaker 1: and then attrition comes in, that disparity in talent just
Speaker 1: really is magnified. It's compounded, and I feel for you
Speaker 1: Detroit fans. But the good news is you can have
Speaker 1: a big time pick in April. That's all I could say.
Speaker 1: Let's um, let's move on Jack Goff. By the way,
Speaker 1: I like Jared Gotham Detroit. There's something very comes in.
Speaker 1: He's the exact same player, the exact same performance. I
Speaker 1: do little grades when I'm doing the things he's. Every
Speaker 1: throw is the same, every game is the same. You
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get, doesn't he, especially now that
Speaker 1: he's an Alliance uniform. Just the way he moves, he's
Speaker 1: such a traditional pocket passer, it just seems like he's
Speaker 1: from a different era a little bit. He's the only
Speaker 1: player under thirty that moves like that. He's a stone
Speaker 1: age pony, as Mark Sessler would say, Um, but he's
Speaker 1: doing it at twenty seven or eight. Um. It just
Speaker 1: seems like that is not a guy unless you have
Speaker 1: skills that really transcend the fact that you're pure pocket passer.
Speaker 1: In this day and age, it's going to be an
Speaker 1: issue for him. But let's pause quickly for a break up.
Speaker 1: Next here we go, Hang on, I am a little
Speaker 1: bit uh frazzled here on the road in the hotel
Speaker 1: in London. Oh, the sun is going down here London.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go out and get some dinner. Start out now.
Speaker 1: It's nice. It's a good reason for Ricky to keep
Speaker 1: the doors locked. Um, let's move on. Some Hank is
Speaker 1: texting us about dinner after saying that his brother in
Speaker 1: law has a lovely pub not too far from me.
Speaker 1: That's where we're gonna go. That's awesome, all right, Broncos
Speaker 1: at Steelers, Denver serves some humble pie by the ravens Uh.
Speaker 1: In Week four at home, the Boo Birds were out
Speaker 1: by the second half off when Drew Lock was just
Speaker 1: a mess trying to get anything going. Um they could,
Speaker 1: I mean they were checking down on third and fourteen. Greg.
Speaker 1: They it was just like we there was a give out,
Speaker 1: a give up game at a certain point because they
Speaker 1: just could not find a way to move the ballot.
Speaker 1: And the toughest of all spots, Teddy, didn't look any
Speaker 1: better to be on to be fair in the first half.
Speaker 1: So anyway, So now Denver has that situation Teddy, we
Speaker 1: have to see what his availability is here. But they're
Speaker 1: going to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers. T J. Watt
Speaker 1: filled up the box score again as he always did
Speaker 1: last week in the loss to Green Bay, but he
Speaker 1: wasn't He wasn't quite vintage t J. Watt. You wonder
Speaker 1: if another week makes him that much more dangerous. You
Speaker 1: imagine it would unless he suffered a setback of some kind.
Speaker 1: But this is a tough one for you, Greg. Your
Speaker 1: Bronco is another one of your favorite teams. Uh too.
Speaker 1: You don't want to lose that momentum of the three
Speaker 1: and oh start. But if you lay another egg here,
Speaker 1: you kind of have yeah availability. I think I'll tell
Speaker 1: the story in terms of just where I'm leaning for
Speaker 1: this game. They had the two starting guards who missed
Speaker 1: last week, if they could get them back. Certainly, Teddy
Speaker 1: I think is a big upgrade from Drew Lock. Against
Speaker 1: that Steelers defense, it's gonna be hard to score points,
Speaker 1: but that's true for Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's offense has not scored
Speaker 1: more than seventeen points this year. I know they scored more.
Speaker 1: The team scored more in Week one, but they got
Speaker 1: a what was it the only team in the league
Speaker 1: that a return or a defensive touchdown? I forget which
Speaker 1: it was. And you're you're playing Denver, who I know
Speaker 1: is missing some players. But Denver's defense is awesome. You
Speaker 1: know that the like statement or like, Okay, let's see
Speaker 1: how good the Broncos actually are. Last week against Baltimore, Well,
Speaker 1: their defense showed up. You know, I know the Ravens
Speaker 1: controlled that game, but they had to earn those touchdowns
Speaker 1: and they didn't score in the second half. Like, it's
Speaker 1: a good defense and there's no reason for me to
Speaker 1: think that Pittsburgh gets over seventeen in this game. So
Speaker 1: whatever the under is here, I'm sure it's a low number,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't know how either team
Speaker 1: gets over seventeen, especially if Teddy's out. This is Yeah,
Speaker 1: you couldn't set the under of the under loana for
Speaker 1: me in this game. I it's forty. So that's this. This,
Speaker 1: this has this has twenty to ten written all over
Speaker 1: it for me. Um, I don't think the Broncos are
Speaker 1: gonna put up a lot of points and the Steelers
Speaker 1: are gonna struggle to put points because they have just
Speaker 1: such major issues on their offense, the offensive line obviously.
Speaker 1: Now Big Ben, the latest report now is that he's
Speaker 1: got hip issue. I mean it's like he's aging at
Speaker 1: a at a rate now that it's almost like we
Speaker 1: need to track this at the c d C. We
Speaker 1: need to get some signists involved, because he's aging seven
Speaker 1: years every week. It's so now he's fifty nine. It's
Speaker 1: like the Benjamin Button movie. Except he's he's actually just aging,
Speaker 1: but it's sped up very quickly. I called them big
Speaker 1: Breeze last year. That one's aged well just in terms
Speaker 1: of like the type of game. Yet he's playing late
Speaker 1: period breeze look like you know, Well, here's the difference.
Speaker 1: He's not accurate like late period breeze. And while Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: is great overall in terms of knowing the game and
Speaker 1: doing things before this snap, you know, as he got
Speaker 1: older he got much better. That he's still not Breeze.
Speaker 1: He's not Brady. He's not like Dac where he's just
Speaker 1: gonna like outthank you. I started thinking that last week,
Speaker 1: that this decline, which I was denying a little bit,
Speaker 1: it's hard to deny when he's just not hitting open
Speaker 1: receivers too, Like, what else do you have left if
Speaker 1: you're not hitting open receivers. He's kind of falling away
Speaker 1: from throws he's known for. He's known for kind of
Speaker 1: stepping in and at least taking those hits. He's not
Speaker 1: doing that anymore. That's why I still think you've got
Speaker 1: to give Denver and kind of what they've done a
Speaker 1: little credit here. They started as a favorite in this game.
Speaker 1: Dan but the public is not buying that, and it
Speaker 1: flipped over to Pittsburgh being the film and I don't
Speaker 1: know if you watch that. Basically it's a coin toss.
Speaker 1: It's a one if any game, if Drew lock is
Speaker 1: starting any game. Yeah, but they were playing like the
Speaker 1: hardest defense. I guess they're about to again, but a
Speaker 1: very hard defense to prepare for what they were throwing
Speaker 1: at Denver last week. To me was very much a
Speaker 1: coach In speaking of coaches, Ricky play because I love this.
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen enough in modern sports really when coaches
Speaker 1: are players just come after each other, the fraternity as
Speaker 1: it were. Uh play Vic Foggio coming after John Harbaugh
Speaker 1: for calling one last play to keep that streak of
Speaker 1: one hundred yard rushing games alive. Uh did you have
Speaker 1: a problem with the last play that Baltimore around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of bulls, But I expected
Speaker 1: it from them. Why did you expect it from them?
Speaker 1: Because I just know how they operate, you know, they
Speaker 1: that's just there, you know, motive operation, their players, safety,
Speaker 1: the secondary. Okay, I thought first of all, they um
Speaker 1: Foggio was on Harbor staff once about the time, so
Speaker 1: when he says, that's the way they do things over there.
Speaker 1: They don't worry about player safety. That is like a
Speaker 1: major shot across the bow of Harbaugh and uh. I
Speaker 1: kind of see where they're coming from. Some people are
Speaker 1: in their feelings about this more than others. I could
Speaker 1: see it from both sides. But overall, I just kind
Speaker 1: of like the spiciness of it, because there was some
Speaker 1: real bitter and its involved. I like that just coaches
Speaker 1: talking trash on the pettiness was so great. He was
Speaker 1: so mad he threw down his headset in the moment.
Speaker 1: I don't get it because they were just trying to
Speaker 1: score a touchdown like a play before, so we're trying
Speaker 1: to be Hardballs literally buried him in his press. Hardball's
Speaker 1: next and they're talking like, well, what do you make
Speaker 1: about this? You know, Fongio is mad and whatever, and
Speaker 1: and and then Hardball goes, oh, I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: there was a sixteen point touchdown, Like, didn't realize, so
Speaker 1: he totally and he then made the good point. Well,
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah, you're losing by all these points
Speaker 1: and you're throwing into the end zone. That's set up
Speaker 1: the interception that allowed the Ravens to do it, so
Speaker 1: you could see it from both He's a cranky old
Speaker 1: man though Fangio and he's old, but he might I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that he was on the step you might
Speaker 1: be onto something, not just the player's safety thing. It's
Speaker 1: more that they're into showy records. They're into stuff like that,
Speaker 1: like the Lamar rushing record, different things, becoming the number
Speaker 1: one rushing team of all time, the preseason wins. They
Speaker 1: absolutely are all about that and so and that's kind
Speaker 1: of like a look at me thing, but yeah, that's okay,
Speaker 1: but doesn't like the fact that you go after specifically
Speaker 1: saying he doesn't look to protect players like that's that's
Speaker 1: coach like, that's some coach war stuff. And it does
Speaker 1: remind me. And one of my favorite behind the scenes
Speaker 1: memories ever, which I think I've shared on the show
Speaker 1: and I won't name the coaches, is that I ended
Speaker 1: up in this little circle. Everyone was boozed up, including
Speaker 1: myself an indie during the combine and in the circle
Speaker 1: of coaches, one head coach of a prominent team, they're
Speaker 1: all prominent for the most part, looks across the room
Speaker 1: to another head coach. Um with his little circle of
Speaker 1: buddies and he goes. He keeps looking over here, Man,
Speaker 1: what's he looking at? He's looking over here, and he
Speaker 1: was like so mad, Like it's really it's like high school.
Speaker 1: Like these coaches there's a lot of machismo and all.
Speaker 1: Then it's these are all jocks. Obviously good acting. You
Speaker 1: took me there, but I just I love that. And
Speaker 1: then you got the other you got. You know who
Speaker 1: doesn't care about this though, is Ravens players. If anything,
Speaker 1: they love it like they no one, like no one
Speaker 1: has their coaches back more than Ravens players. Like whether
Speaker 1: they're on the team or after the team, everyone always
Speaker 1: loves John Harbaugh. Ultimately, that's that's kind of the route
Speaker 1: you gotta go with if your players love you. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's uh move on. The Miami Dolphins traveled to Tampa
Speaker 1: to get the bucks. You know, handsome Hank who's here earlier,
Speaker 1: big Dolphins fan, and uh I remember saying after that
Speaker 1: Raiders near miss. They took the Raiders to overtime and
Speaker 1: lost in Vegas in week three, it's like, you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta make sure you win that Colts game in
Speaker 1: week four at home, because if you don't do that.
Speaker 1: You go to Tampa and all of a sudden, you
Speaker 1: there's a possibility you're staring down uh a one in
Speaker 1: four start. And that's that's where we're heading now. Because
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, to me, Greg and this is a team
Speaker 1: we we've spoken highly of Brian Floord and I'm not
Speaker 1: putting this on floors necessarily. I'm putting this on the organization.
Speaker 1: Just like it's not too early to say, my god,
Speaker 1: they whipped on Justin Herbert and they went with TWA.
Speaker 1: It's more like, from a big picture, they had their
Speaker 1: chance to completely reboot the organization. They went with the
Speaker 1: total tear down and going all in with draft picks.
Speaker 1: And where is that right now? Because when I look
Speaker 1: at a team that in in the summer, we're talking
Speaker 1: this is a team rising the a f C. Through
Speaker 1: four weeks and it's just four weeks, they look mediocre
Speaker 1: and almost every way sub mediocre. I mean, it looks stinky.
Speaker 1: It looks like they don't have anything to hold onto.
Speaker 1: You know, they're a good coverage team. I think in
Speaker 1: this matchup coming at this time is is fascinating because
Speaker 1: if there's a coach that could try to replicate a
Speaker 1: similar game plan to what the Patriots did last week.
Speaker 1: It is Brian Flores in the these Dolphins. If they
Speaker 1: do one thing well, I think it's mixed up coverages
Speaker 1: and be pretty coordinated back there and have a lot
Speaker 1: of talent, especially at cornerback. So I I could actually
Speaker 1: see them slowing down the Bucks offense. I'm concerned about
Speaker 1: the Bucks. You know. It's like every week we give
Speaker 1: like the Bucks opponent credit for playing well. At some point,
Speaker 1: I think you gotta look at what's happening with the Bucks,
Speaker 1: not just that they've lost so much defensive personnel, but
Speaker 1: that the offense hasn't been quite as explosive the last
Speaker 1: two weeks. Uh. I see them. I see this game
Speaker 1: potentially getting a little gnarly if if they can figure
Speaker 1: out a way to move the ball on offense for Miami,
Speaker 1: which is a big if. But the Bucks are the
Speaker 1: biggest favorites of the week. I mentioned earlier how the
Speaker 1: Lions close to the Bucks are the biggest favorite. I
Speaker 1: don't know about that. I kind of do give Miami's
Speaker 1: defense a little bit of credit that they might they
Speaker 1: might cause some problems. The Bucks are worrying me right now.
Speaker 1: I don't see them as like one of the five
Speaker 1: best teams in the league right now. Is the way
Speaker 1: they're playing right I mean, I have them two in
Speaker 1: the power ranks. I My kind of style when it
Speaker 1: comes to trying to figure out the landscape of the
Speaker 1: league is I always give a little more UM space
Speaker 1: and a little more juice to the defending champ because
Speaker 1: these title defenses are tough, and you they're they're grinding
Speaker 1: it out and at the end of the day they're
Speaker 1: three and one still, so it's not like they're they're
Speaker 1: in deep trouble. That New England game was that was
Speaker 1: a naughty game. That was a tough one. You gotta
Speaker 1: go on the road with all the fanfare and all
Speaker 1: the distractions, and then you're playing in the rain. You
Speaker 1: find a way to get that done. You get some
Speaker 1: luck obviously with the miss field goal. UM. But the
Speaker 1: thing that I think helps them here is their back
Speaker 1: end is on defense is all sorts of beat up
Speaker 1: right now. They're missing a bunch of guys. I don't
Speaker 1: know what Anton Winfield Juniors situation is, UM, but they
Speaker 1: lost Carlton last week and they have they can be
Speaker 1: taken advantage of. I just don't think the Dolphins are
Speaker 1: the team that can do it. And I don't think
Speaker 1: they watch last they can't protect the quarterback Britain. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's under the Gabard zone because with Because
Speaker 1: Brissette right now this year is averaging four point nine
Speaker 1: yards for Yeah, it's it's the it's the Jake Brisket
Speaker 1: zone right now. So and now Will Fuller just went
Speaker 1: to the i R. That guy's having a nightmare first
Speaker 1: season in Miami. It just feels like everything that Miami
Speaker 1: did so far leading into the season is not working out.
Speaker 1: Whether um it's their offensive line development, their quarterback situation,
Speaker 1: this wide receiver um it was supposed to be the
Speaker 1: big leap forward for the wide receiver group. It's just
Speaker 1: not coming together and getting Tampa on the road. It
Speaker 1: just feels like the recipe for another opposite of what
Speaker 1: you want in year three of their program. This this
Speaker 1: is sort of the go year and they're going backwards.
Speaker 1: It's not what you want. The New Orleans Saints, the
Speaker 1: Nolan Saints broke Greg's heart Sunday. There's nothing there's two
Speaker 1: things that Greg loves more than pretty much anything else.
Speaker 1: It's the Saints winning, especially if when it's down there
Speaker 1: in New Orleans and everybody's partying and they just opened
Speaker 1: up the building for the first time in six and
Speaker 1: thirty eight days to a full house. So the idea
Speaker 1: of the victory there, Greg loves it. And the other thing,
Speaker 1: Greg loves the Giants losing a big Blue the team
Speaker 1: that's been the old narratives, old narratives, they don't die,
Speaker 1: they live on. So that the the idea of Greg
Speaker 1: that the Giants would beat the Saints, and that's about
Speaker 1: that hurts, and it hurts the Saints, who are two
Speaker 1: and two, had a chance to really build some momentum.
Speaker 1: Now they got to go to Washington. Uh. This is
Speaker 1: a tough one for me, Greg, because the football team
Speaker 1: continues to struggle defensively. But Tyler Heineke at home, you know,
Speaker 1: he's making some things happen this year in the Saints offense,
Speaker 1: I don't trust it yet this I think this is
Speaker 1: a close game. I think the Saints defense is gonna
Speaker 1: be for real, but they need to get more of
Speaker 1: a pass rush. Cam Jordan's just not the same guy
Speaker 1: that he used to be. They haven't had Marcus Davenport
Speaker 1: on the field. You know he won't be this week.
Speaker 1: Anya Mada is still suspended. They have a lot of
Speaker 1: players if you look at their roster that should be
Speaker 1: coming back, that are really good players, like six starters.
Speaker 1: But they're not bad yet. Uh And I still think
Speaker 1: they'll be good in the back end, but they need
Speaker 1: to kind of take the training wheels off Jamis. They
Speaker 1: just gotta they gotta start trusting him a little more
Speaker 1: because he played his best game as a Saint last week.
Speaker 1: It was better than Week one, like he was dealing.
Speaker 1: And yet they were just run run, pass or run
Speaker 1: run tastes them and just trying to wait and squeeze
Speaker 1: that defense, um and count on the defense to win
Speaker 1: the game. I just don't think you can do that.
Speaker 1: I'm not a believer in this Washington team now, yea,
Speaker 1: at some point if they've shown us what they are,
Speaker 1: and they're what they are is a bad defense. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the Saints offense, I mean listen there, and total
Speaker 1: offense to your point, their last in the league in
Speaker 1: big place, which I believe NFL research teams a gain
Speaker 1: of fifteen or twenty yards if I'm sure, do you
Speaker 1: recall it twenty yards? So they are not a chunk team.
Speaker 1: We know that. But this is the thing. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying enough to win games, uh in our league, But
Speaker 1: when you're up and the fourth quarter in your building,
Speaker 1: you need that offense to take it home. And if
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, if you're gonna and this is what
Speaker 1: we're talking about going into that game last week, if
Speaker 1: your new thing is we're built on our defense and
Speaker 1: making tomorrow centerpiece and running the ball more and not
Speaker 1: making it a quarterback centric offense, well you you need
Speaker 1: your defense to close the game out. So this will
Speaker 1: be this will be a test for them to bounce
Speaker 1: back from what was obviously a very disappointed I think
Speaker 1: Washington is the worst two and two team in the league.
Speaker 1: I think the Saints are good too and two teams,
Speaker 1: but the Bears, I put Washington even below them. Interesting.
Speaker 1: I see miscommunication in the back end of Washington every week.
Speaker 1: You know, they're a team that's supposed to be like
Speaker 1: built on defense, like show up like they're just they're
Speaker 1: just not there. I love the matchup of John Payton
Speaker 1: versus Jack del Rio. That's a mismatch. Sean Payton spent
Speaker 1: the whole week buying his team Yo Yo's well, I
Speaker 1: keep come on, you're grown man. Here, it's buying. He
Speaker 1: bought his team eighty yo yo. It's like the most
Speaker 1: baby boomer move ever. It's a Bill Parcels move. He
Speaker 1: used to like put cheese up and say like, don't
Speaker 1: take the cheese. And he bought everyone yo yo's and
Speaker 1: he's like, don't be a yo yo team. Get to
Speaker 1: find a yo yo. No, no, no, it's like, you
Speaker 1: don't be a yo yo coach. Like he was in
Speaker 1: his own head last week. The crowd wasn't even that
Speaker 1: into it, quiet like sneaky because they were just like,
Speaker 1: what is this Saints team? But I think it ultimately,
Speaker 1: it is a tough team, and I think this is
Speaker 1: the big message. And I know I'm there. It is Greggy.
Speaker 1: Greggy got a w last week in the lock game,
Speaker 1: and now he see he's doubling down on his Saints.
Speaker 1: He still believes. I like it all right. Taylor heine
Speaker 1: fun to watch. Taylor Heineke is living a charmed life though.
Speaker 1: He is fun to watch. But just catch you know,
Speaker 1: the defenses. He just gives other teams a chance every week.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta take advantage when he does. I
Speaker 1: just love that that comeback the just I don't know
Speaker 1: there is there is a frantic energy, UM fits magic
Speaker 1: style that I enjoy with Heinekey, And that presser of
Speaker 1: him like getting emotional about staying with his sister and
Speaker 1: brother in law was like so great and cute and
Speaker 1: it really made my heart happy. I missed that. I'll
Speaker 1: have to, Uh, you want to send it to me privately,
Speaker 1: we'll discuss it. Great. Moving on the Chicago Bears at
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders. All right, So the big news out
Speaker 1: of Chicago UM on Wednesday is that Justin Fields is
Speaker 1: the guy going forward. Coach Matt Naggie announced the Fields
Speaker 1: will start for the Bears moving forward. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: this obviously is the right call. They've they've kind of
Speaker 1: struggled with the situation. But I guess what you could say,
Speaker 1: Greg is that Fields showed you enough and they made
Speaker 1: progress scoring touchdowns on those first two drives that you
Speaker 1: could say, all right, we were not going to get
Speaker 1: this guy killed. We got our past protection under control.
Speaker 1: He needs to be the guy and let's hi him
Speaker 1: and and we'll see if it works. Because guess what,
Speaker 1: David Montgomery, who is the engine behind their offense, last week.
Speaker 1: Is now out for multiple weeks with a knee injury.
Speaker 1: So that's a tough situation against the Raiders front seven.
Speaker 1: They can go get after it. Yeah, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a much bigger challenge this week. But there was no
Speaker 1: way you could sit fields after that performance. I know
Speaker 1: they didn't ask him to do too much, but he
Speaker 1: also made some high level throws, like he made three
Speaker 1: or four throws in that game that we're like, whoa
Speaker 1: they see in the deep accuracy. That's what his calling
Speaker 1: card is. I don't think he's like a Zack Wilson
Speaker 1: or Lawrence whereas a thrower, he'll be up and down.
Speaker 1: His problem I think is just gonna be holding the
Speaker 1: ball too long and like trying to make a play
Speaker 1: and maybe that's not gonna work. But if you can
Speaker 1: set up some schemed up plays down the field, like
Speaker 1: he can hit it, and you've got to give him
Speaker 1: more of a chance. I don't think the Raiders defense
Speaker 1: is bad this year, but they're not great either. They're
Speaker 1: getting bad up in the secondary. Like this, you should
Speaker 1: be able to make some hay and uh, you know
Speaker 1: Bill Laser, he's back. He's back. Good to have them
Speaker 1: in our life. That's good. The Lasers back and calling
Speaker 1: plays for the Bears. Mati doesn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: He told the media, I'm not talking about this anymore,
Speaker 1: all right, Bro, That's fine. Lasers calling the plays though. Um, like,
Speaker 1: I thought about covering locking up this game for the Raiders,
Speaker 1: but then you know, looking at that team, the problems
Speaker 1: they have, I feel like no game is gonna be
Speaker 1: easy for them if you really look at it, Like
Speaker 1: I feel like every game is gonna come down to
Speaker 1: the wire. Their offensive line has problems, they don't really
Speaker 1: have a running game. I think they'll end up winning
Speaker 1: a lot of games and that they'll win this game,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be sweating it. Um. Ricky
Speaker 1: played Joey Bosa destroying Derek Carr on Monday night. We
Speaker 1: knew once we hit him a few times, you really
Speaker 1: get shook. And you saw him on c C. Sack,
Speaker 1: who was pretty much curling in the ball before we
Speaker 1: even got back there. So, um, great, great players been
Speaker 1: having a great here, but we know once you get
Speaker 1: pressure on him, he kind of shuts down and he's
Speaker 1: not as effective with the with the crowded pockets. So
Speaker 1: that was that was the key to again back to
Speaker 1: the fraternity thing. I was talking to Trotter, Jimmy Trotter,
Speaker 1: our colleague at NFL Media, uh, the day before we
Speaker 1: left for London, and he was all hot. He was
Speaker 1: hot and bothered about it, and he was called that
Speaker 1: this is the to see a player, the fraternity of
Speaker 1: the players come after a man's and call him essentially
Speaker 1: soft is something you don't typically see. And I think
Speaker 1: it does get to it's not necessarily even a Bosa thing,
Speaker 1: but uh, people are never overly convinced by Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: Uh So the fact that he had a stumble in
Speaker 1: a game where he was pressured on his dropbacks and
Speaker 1: and wasn't able to move the raiders with regularity, a
Speaker 1: lot of people were like, yep, I told you, so
Speaker 1: he's actually not good. There's always that element with Derek
Speaker 1: Carr and Joey Bosa. Just throw fuel on that fire. Well,
Speaker 1: that he was saying what the players think? I mean,
Speaker 1: I want to know what the players think. And this
Speaker 1: was Car's reputation I think that he earned in previous years.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing like that now. But there
Speaker 1: were a couple drives early in that game. Where I
Speaker 1: knew what Bosa was talking about. If you watch the game,
Speaker 1: you did where he did sort of give up crumple
Speaker 1: on the play and the pressure was coming, but then
Speaker 1: he rebound and play just to that point, like go
Speaker 1: watch Peek Peyton Manning and see what happens when the
Speaker 1: past protection breaks down and there's nowhere to go. Either
Speaker 1: throws it away or he was famous for doing that
Speaker 1: duck and slide. I'll take the sack. I live for
Speaker 1: another doubt. I don't think that's a sign of weakness.
Speaker 1: I think it's a sign of a quarterback that sometimes
Speaker 1: you just say that's it. This play is dead and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the l rather than get crushed and
Speaker 1: mixed miss six weeks with a separated shoulder. You know
Speaker 1: that's fair. I do love just the laconic delivery of
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa as he destroys you, because he was even
Speaker 1: tougher on the officials when talking about the officials, just
Speaker 1: like should not basically have the right to live, But
Speaker 1: he just does it in this like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: this is a fistal. I don't know what they're even
Speaker 1: doing out there, Like they shouldn't even have a job.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, there's something funny out the way
Speaker 1: Joey both doesn't and I totally clip that wasn't Greg? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was great. I totally I don't think we should
Speaker 1: take the fraternity of the players stuff so seriously because
Speaker 1: you never played the game. They played football, but hey,
Speaker 1: you know played the game. Bro. It's bs though, because
Speaker 1: you know who talked more trash than anyone all the time?
Speaker 1: Every player in the sixties, seventies and eighties, like before
Speaker 1: there was mass media, they talked match because they knew
Speaker 1: it was a game. And that's what you do, is
Speaker 1: you talk about other players that you think are whims,
Speaker 1: whether you're right or wrong. Like that's like I want
Speaker 1: more of that. That's like being you know, being in
Speaker 1: the broadcast world and like talking about you know, another
Speaker 1: broadcast right, like you don't a lot of ways that
Speaker 1: just an old school, rugged type dude do that that
Speaker 1: doesn't worry about feelings. No, I like it, just like
Speaker 1: I like the Foggio thing. But the only thing that
Speaker 1: kind of was on my radars because I do like
Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr is an underrated guy. I've been
Speaker 1: saying that for years. People were getting on the bandwagon
Speaker 1: the first three weeks after that hot start, when he's
Speaker 1: averaging four yards a game. It's just so funny how
Speaker 1: people are quick to either jump off the bandwagon or
Speaker 1: you see another player kind of poke the bear by saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy is actually not for real. It's some about
Speaker 1: car that bothers people. It's just something about him. You're right,
Speaker 1: and uh, they gotta protect better for him, because I
Speaker 1: don't think they protected well the first three weeks either.
Speaker 1: I think he's played really well despite that, but it's
Speaker 1: hard to go seventeen weeks like that. And I love
Speaker 1: the Raiders, like I said, when they're in that building,
Speaker 1: the Raiders are a vibe. So don't trip over your
Speaker 1: own junk here against the Bears. Show us that you
Speaker 1: are indeed a legit playoff level team in the a
Speaker 1: f C. And beat the Bears, who have a good
Speaker 1: but not great defense and a rookie a quarterback. Go
Speaker 1: take care of business. Don't make this dramatic. Finally, I
Speaker 1: believe it's been a long one. Sorry everybody if this
Speaker 1: feels a little too long, But you know, you only
Speaker 1: get one show leading up to week five, so we
Speaker 1: figured we could let it breathe a little bit, UH
Speaker 1: and again thanking to Neil Reynolds for joining us. UH.
Speaker 1: The final game we'll talk about here is the Cowboys
Speaker 1: at home against the Legim And right after this, Cowboys
Speaker 1: made news this week. Jalen Smith, who was a linebacker
Speaker 1: they drafted in the first round out of Notre Dame
Speaker 1: once upon a time, a lot of concerns when he
Speaker 1: came into the league about a foot injury. I believe
Speaker 1: it was or was it a knee um that I
Speaker 1: always get a confused, But Miles Jack and Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: both came into the league as highly touted UH defensive
Speaker 1: players with a serious injury they're coming off. But Jalen
Speaker 1: Smith came into the league, overcame the injury issue, got paid,
Speaker 1: got on a second count contract, and then became um
Speaker 1: marginalized in the Cowboys the sense of plans with the
Speaker 1: rise of other players, so they cut They cut ties
Speaker 1: with Jalen Smith on Wednesday, releasing the venter and linebacker.
Speaker 1: Very surprising because they were giving him who was the
Speaker 1: drop foot snaps? Was Jalen a drop foot guy? Ricky?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Jack was the drop foot guy.
Speaker 1: Who was the drop He's had a good career though,
Speaker 1: so it turned out to be um, you know, worrying
Speaker 1: too much about those injuries either way, the drop foot
Speaker 1: that plagued Dallas Cowboys linebacker Jen when he suffered nerve
Speaker 1: damage of his career roster Ruben Foster. Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: a torn a c l and then the nerve damage
Speaker 1: that came with it was a whole one, just the whole.
Speaker 1: But it was the nerve damage that was crazy. Um
Speaker 1: what This was such a such a Dallas Cowboys moment though,
Speaker 1: because Jalen Smith is a great guy. He was like
Speaker 1: a leader for their London at night, and they they
Speaker 1: gave him a huge second contract at a point when
Speaker 1: they absolutely didn't have to because it was like a
Speaker 1: moment where the Cowboys needed some good news. I remember this.
Speaker 1: They were going through it and Jerry Jones then like
Speaker 1: calls this press conference to almost stop all the bad
Speaker 1: news from happening, and it's like, here's this great story,
Speaker 1: our developmental guy. And it was that Jalen Smith at
Speaker 1: a peak, him and Letton Vanderesh. I remember West saying
Speaker 1: like those two look like the new bowman and Patrick
Speaker 1: Willis like the linebacker. Do they give him all this
Speaker 1: guaranteed money and his play just declined almost like the
Speaker 1: minute the contract was signed. Uh, they still owe him
Speaker 1: a ton of guaranteed money this year that they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to pay him just to go away. But I
Speaker 1: think it was just an awkward situation because he didn't
Speaker 1: need to play that much. But he was like a leader,
Speaker 1: almost like a Cam Newton thing, where of course they like,
Speaker 1: they like him, but it's awkward if your leaders like
Speaker 1: fourth on the depth chart at a two man position,
Speaker 1: so you get rid of him. And I think it
Speaker 1: just shows how good their defense is in a way
Speaker 1: because us they're so desperate for any semblance of talent
Speaker 1: that you're like waiting through four years of Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: suspensions because you just need him. But right now they
Speaker 1: don't need it. They got a lot of defensive players.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm amazed by this Cowboys. They Yeah, they
Speaker 1: hit on Michael Parsons obviously, and they've hit on Trayvon Dick,
Speaker 1: so that's back to back years. And they hit on
Speaker 1: Dicky Zoa is a is a player and he was
Speaker 1: a third And how long have we been waiting for
Speaker 1: this um? For the Cowboys who have always done well
Speaker 1: building an offense, but now to have a big name,
Speaker 1: young talent on defense. That's what makes them so far
Speaker 1: this year. I don't know if they'll stay there, but
Speaker 1: they don't know. Nobody had them at this level. I mean,
Speaker 1: the die hard Cowboys fans, I'm sure did, but I
Speaker 1: think everyone else was in a wait and see mode
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys because they always kind of look good
Speaker 1: on paper and then the season starts and it's like,
Speaker 1: not exactly the way things play out, but you know,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be an interesting game because the Giants
Speaker 1: are coming off a really, really nice, when desperately needed win,
Speaker 1: obviously after the own three start and which you saw
Speaker 1: from Daniel Jones uh throwing for four hundred yards against
Speaker 1: a good Saints defense without his top two pass catchers
Speaker 1: or two of his top pass catchers in the lineup.
Speaker 1: And then more importantly, I thought this was the game
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, se Kwan's back now, like and
Speaker 1: I know, um coming back from a knee injury like that,
Speaker 1: maybe there's gonna be peaks and valleys this season. But
Speaker 1: the fact that they just put it on him and
Speaker 1: when they needed a big play in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: se Quon gave to him fifty six yard touchdown when
Speaker 1: they needed to stick it in the end zone and
Speaker 1: not give the ball back to the Saints in overtime. Again,
Speaker 1: it was se Quon that pounded and found a way,
Speaker 1: and you saw, especially after that touchdown the one fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: how excited Barkley was, like he was a man on
Speaker 1: fire looking and he ran straight to Daniel Jones at
Speaker 1: midfield and celebrated with him. There's some good vibes with
Speaker 1: the Giants. I can't hate this Giants team. You're saying,
Speaker 1: I love seeing them lose, but just show me some fun,
Speaker 1: good football and then I like you. I I think
Speaker 1: this is the best one and three team in the league.
Speaker 1: I said this week they're the best oh and three
Speaker 1: team in the league. Now they're the best one in
Speaker 1: three team in the league. This is the best Giants
Speaker 1: Cowboys game I can think of in a while, because
Speaker 1: usually they're just these boring games. Daniel Jones is playing
Speaker 1: the best ball of his career. Could aias Tony is
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy? I know he had all these
Speaker 1: issues and maybe he'll be He'll have more I don't know,
Speaker 1: but his first step explosion is insane. It's like Tyreek
Speaker 1: hillis I'm not saying these Tyreek Hill, but figure out
Speaker 1: a way to get him the ball in space, because
Speaker 1: my god, he was a factor. And then you combine
Speaker 1: him with Barkley and Golladay and Jones making really good decisions.
Speaker 1: I think they're dangerous. Their defense has played better the
Speaker 1: last two weeks. I think it's gonna be a good game.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, to me, might be the best team in
Speaker 1: the league. So I wouldn't pick against them in any spot.
Speaker 1: Why they're actually a touchdown favor. I couldn't even lock
Speaker 1: up the Cowboys, but I guess what, I wouldn't even
Speaker 1: because I think this will be a close skill to
Speaker 1: love him right now, Well, it's just with the With
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, everyone gets mad, like the greater football world,
Speaker 1: like fans and media, but especially fans, like like, why
Speaker 1: do the Cowboys get too much coverage? And like, oh,
Speaker 1: everyone calls him America's team. They're not America's team. Look
Speaker 1: if they haven't been to the Super Bowl in twenty
Speaker 1: five years. But what happens is whenever the Cowboys get good,
Speaker 1: everybody goes crazy and people love it. And that's why,
Speaker 1: like I'm not surprised that their favored this much, because
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys are good, people push everything to the
Speaker 1: center of the table. Tyrone Smith going to the Holliday
Speaker 1: Notes playing great. Greg's notebook fell down and I just
Speaker 1: looked in his Chricken scratch and under under the New
Speaker 1: York Giants Dallas game right under the first thing says
Speaker 1: so into disc game explanation. Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: There's what if you turn the page and it was
Speaker 1: just like it was written over and over a thousand times.
Speaker 1: Ricky must lose the lock games. Must lose the Ricky
Speaker 1: must lose the lock game. Ricky must because I mean
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Tyrant Smith, Hall of Famer Zack Martin.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get Lyle Collins back. They're moving people. Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: One of the most exciting young players in the league.
Speaker 1: Marii Cooper shouldn't have gotten kicked out of the Superstar Club.
Speaker 1: Sorry about that one two punch Zeke and Pollard no better.
Speaker 1: Dak at the peak of his powers. Kellen Moore, you
Speaker 1: know calling up plays a fun like frisky defense with
Speaker 1: a defensive rookie there, what's not the like like? I
Speaker 1: don't know there to me in an offensive league, I
Speaker 1: just would be stunned if they don't win twelve games,
Speaker 1: or at least it doesn't. It also feel like, and
Speaker 1: I know this feels like a different Cowboys team. Couldn't
Speaker 1: you see them tripping up here? Even good team? Like
Speaker 1: if they go eleven and six, that's gonna be five
Speaker 1: more disappointing Sundays to go. So sure, they could lose
Speaker 1: this game, but I think in the long run they
Speaker 1: will be fine. But in the even longer run of
Speaker 1: this show, I've realized we do have another game, Yes,
Speaker 1: Tennessee at Jacksonville. The game. Everyone's the reason why. I
Speaker 1: was like, I was looking at my notes, my little
Speaker 1: sub notes, which isn't there's no madness, is just straightforward
Speaker 1: things that we should touch on. Urban Meyer was written,
Speaker 1: uh down, and yes, the Jaguars are owing four. They
Speaker 1: lost a crusher on Thursday night to Cincinnati, and everybody
Speaker 1: knows the story. We don't need to go through it exhaustively.
Speaker 1: But urban Meyer stays behind in Ohio with the team
Speaker 1: flies back without him, and then he gets into a
Speaker 1: he has a fun little night put it that way
Speaker 1: at his bar is caught on video, which is just
Speaker 1: madness that you could be. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: he was drunk or what, but it's just like, dude,
Speaker 1: how can you not have the awareness, uh to be
Speaker 1: out in public with a woman dancing up on you.
Speaker 1: It leads to him having a super super embarrassing press conference, uh,
Speaker 1: super super humiliating situation where the owners coming out and
Speaker 1: saying that our head coach, we just paid a trillion dollars,
Speaker 1: has to read and our trust and respect and even worse,
Speaker 1: the Mike Silver reporting greg that we saw it on
Speaker 1: Twitter as a good silver thread, and I love a
Speaker 1: good silver threat. Everybody loves a good silver thread because
Speaker 1: he brings the melodrama of the NFL to the forefront.
Speaker 1: Just that that he that Meyer canceled the team meeting
Speaker 1: on Monday, which is a really bad look as this
Speaker 1: fallout from this incident was occurring, and then he had
Speaker 1: some meetings with players who, according to Silver's reporting, just
Speaker 1: essentially laughed the coach out of the building as soon
Speaker 1: as the door closed and he left the room because
Speaker 1: they don't buy his act at all. So that's that's
Speaker 1: a tough situation for Trevor Lawrence as a rookie. That
Speaker 1: is a dire situation for Jack's management, who have an
Speaker 1: owned four team and a high profile coach under fire
Speaker 1: here with the Titans coming to town. What a mess.
Speaker 1: It's such a mess. Just be real with like I
Speaker 1: think he thinks he Irban Meyer can like get away
Speaker 1: with b sen grown men. And it's like, you didn't
Speaker 1: get away with b sing your college players because they
Speaker 1: like believed you and necessary believed in all your team
Speaker 1: culture stuff. You got away with it because like you
Speaker 1: were their boss and they had no choice, and they
Speaker 1: still on some level they still have no choice. And
Speaker 1: Chris Long, Who's played on a lot of teams and
Speaker 1: played on some championship teams and played on some really
Speaker 1: bad rams teams, said, if I'm a Jaguar right now,
Speaker 1: I'm my own CEO, which is basically like every man
Speaker 1: for himself. No one respects the head coach. You gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta protect what you do because you're gonna make
Speaker 1: your living off of it. But like they've lost they've
Speaker 1: lost any respect, not because he had a girl dancing
Speaker 1: up on him, but because of how he handled it
Speaker 1: after the fact, and because of the fact he didn't
Speaker 1: take the team playing home, which is not something I
Speaker 1: like him, I know a lot about. But now I've
Speaker 1: heard a ton of ex players and a ton of
Speaker 1: people covered league talk about that. That's like unheard of
Speaker 1: that a team would lose a Thursday night game and
Speaker 1: the coach would like like, oh no, I'm not going
Speaker 1: back with the team. I'm just gonna like hang out
Speaker 1: in Ohio. That's the bigger, the bigger thing than having
Speaker 1: the good I don't know if he was hoping, like
Speaker 1: the players would never know about that, but they're all
Speaker 1: on the same team flight and like the holes all
Speaker 1: for one one fight, like like I'm gonna go get
Speaker 1: with the day after the game. That Friday is an
Speaker 1: off day for the players, but the coach is supposed
Speaker 1: to be back in the office grinding away. I don't
Speaker 1: think he understands the responsibility of being a head coach.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's such a tough situation when he's
Speaker 1: not bringing anything to the table that would make up
Speaker 1: for it. Like if you're seeing some Chip Kelly in
Speaker 1: year one type like oh he's changed in the league.
Speaker 1: They're playing fast, It's like no, they're running some vanilla
Speaker 1: vanilla stuff on ball sides, especially the defense is a tough,
Speaker 1: tough watching jackson And if you are a if you're
Speaker 1: a fan of the Titans, like Grave Digger, just thank
Speaker 1: your lucky stars here because you're coming off you had
Speaker 1: Jets Jacksonville back to back weeks. I mean you you
Speaker 1: penciled in back to back w' is obviously before the season.
Speaker 1: You somehow find a way to lose to the Jets
Speaker 1: in overtime. Uh, show up in this game and and
Speaker 1: kick the butt and kind of get back on track.
Speaker 1: We are we know the state of the a f
Speaker 1: C South. We know this feels like potentially a nine
Speaker 1: win division champion. Uh coming into play a nine and
Speaker 1: eight type season could get you the job done. So
Speaker 1: you have to take advantage of these soft sports, soft
Speaker 1: spots in the schedule. They didn't do it against the Jets.
Speaker 1: Do it against the Jags. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: wide receiver health situation is. They didn't have Julio or
Speaker 1: a j last week. Um, but they they are not
Speaker 1: a great They are bottom five team in the league.
Speaker 1: Maybe when they don't have those two guys. Yes, they're
Speaker 1: very one dimension and I mean it's a creditable tails
Speaker 1: of line is falling apart. I mean, the Jets took advantage,
Speaker 1: but they're not the first team. Daniel was taking more
Speaker 1: sacks than any quarterback in the league, right, Hannah Hill,
Speaker 1: I think is still playing well. Derrick Henry is still
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. But right now it feels like a two
Speaker 1: man crew and it's just asking too much. But normally,
Speaker 1: I'd say this is a winnable game for the Jags
Speaker 1: if they were gonna win one a home game against
Speaker 1: the banged up Titans. But the bad juju here, Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know, by the way, if the
Speaker 1: Titans somehow uh lost in this game, and I can't
Speaker 1: imagine that they would, especially with everything that's going around
Speaker 1: around the Jaguars, that team is not going to show
Speaker 1: up ready to play. You wouldn't think on Sunday. Uh,
Speaker 1: Titans have home games against the Bills and Chiefs up next,
Speaker 1: So you better win this game, all right? I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, Urban, what are we doing? Buddy? What are
Speaker 1: we doing? If you, like, are for some reason enjoying
Speaker 1: this Urban Meyer downfall, perhaps you are a fan of
Speaker 1: one of the Big ten teams that he you know,
Speaker 1: would stomp on and kind of preen about it. Just
Speaker 1: go back to our off season episode where I embodied
Speaker 1: Urban Buyer for an episode with some foresight of the
Speaker 1: big head that would maybe in fairness on on our
Speaker 1: most recent show before this controversy, also said you were
Speaker 1: starting to come around on Urban Meyers. It was I
Speaker 1: was starting to say more like I was feeling bad
Speaker 1: for him. But now I don't feel it's bad man.
Speaker 1: He just seems sad and it shouldn't seem like he
Speaker 1: should be there. You know, we're hoping to get Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler back on the other side after London. If you're tracking,
Speaker 1: go get my lunch dot org to really fascinating potential
Speaker 1: uh sequences going on here. We have u Mark has
Speaker 1: a coach, will resigned mid season. It's in play. That
Speaker 1: is so absolutely if this if the if I forgot
Speaker 1: about that. If the Jags are you know one in
Speaker 1: ten or oh and seven, and you know there's some
Speaker 1: type of you know, behind the scenes fall out between
Speaker 1: the coach and the owner and all that, that's absolutely
Speaker 1: in play. Also, Mark has a cheerleader will become a
Speaker 1: top story in the league, but now in class success
Speaker 1: or fashion. And I went back and looked at this
Speaker 1: the way Greg studies Erica's locks. No, it's it's weird.
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing going on. Um uh, he did
Speaker 1: say NFL cheerleader. Mark always puts that one extra thing
Speaker 1: that he can't put in. But if by any stretch,
Speaker 1: that blonde was an NFL cheerleader, we have this makes
Speaker 1: the Jets Brown's lock, you know, look like nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for it. I hope she was cheer If
Speaker 1: the blonde at the bar was an NFL cheerleader at
Speaker 1: some point and Urban resigns and she becomes a big story,
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. All Right,
Speaker 1: we got some great stuff here, you guys. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: time is it? Time to time? All right, thank you
Speaker 1: everybody for listening. This is a supersized edition of the
Speaker 1: preview show two Hours We did It, We finally did it.
Speaker 1: Two hour episod. Do we want to break this into
Speaker 1: two parts? All right, Well, you guys can break into
Speaker 1: two parts. Take listen to the first hour, take a break,
Speaker 1: go grab a pint, maybe listen to the of split
Speaker 1: ends that Colleen and I dropped yesterday, a little palate cleanser,
Speaker 1: and then come back and finish this that's nice. That's
Speaker 1: a great idea. Split ends with Colleen wolf and Erica Tampos,
Speaker 1: or maybe Erica Tampose and Colleen Wolfe. How does it?
Speaker 1: How's it in? How's it in? The Colleen calling? Its
Speaker 1: first billing for sure, but I got first billing on
Speaker 1: the car service today. You did so good work, all right,
Speaker 1: So we're happy to be here in London. We're excited. Uh.
Speaker 1: We have our live show, two live shows on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: so if you're in the area, come join us and
Speaker 1: then you will see us maybe out and about in London.
Speaker 1: If you're around here, we'll be checking out some of
Speaker 1: the local establishments of course, and some of the quote
Speaker 1: unquote official team bars uh for the Falcons and Jets,
Speaker 1: and then on Sunday we will be at the Big
Speaker 1: Top for Jets Falcons and check us out on sky Sports.
Speaker 1: If you're here in the UK and at home, we'll
Speaker 1: be back then on a plane Monday and hopefully with
Speaker 1: Mark Sesler with us as well. So exciting times for us.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening and understanding. Uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: bloat sometimes just part of the process, but we're doing
Speaker 1: our best. Thank you for everybody for listening uh Dan
Speaker 1: Hans is signing off for Ricky Hollywood Neil and that
Speaker 1: was a good job by you, Greg. Really straighten things
Speaker 1: out with Neil once and for all and the old
Speaker 1: boss until Sunday for Thursday night, Come join us Heed
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