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Speaker 1: Be Around with the NFL podcast. Can't pronounced wibbled it

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Speaker 1: live ish from London. It's Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansas. I come to you from a

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Speaker 1: hotel room filled with some heroes, Ricky Hollywood on the

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Speaker 1: ones and twos sitting across from me, looking comfortable and

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Speaker 1: alert after a ten hour flight. It's Greg Rosenthal. Here

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Speaker 1: we go, Baby back in England. We home, Baby. Jet

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Speaker 1: lag is for the week. You know, jet jet lag

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Speaker 1: is a mind state. We're gonna overcome this. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: come with the best podcast we ever did. Straight off that.

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Speaker 1: This is how Greg talks now. By the way, it's

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Speaker 1: so weird. He got on the plane, flew halfway across

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Speaker 1: the world, and now he talks like a local television

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Speaker 1: tough guy. It's great. Welcome. I'm I'm thrilled. It does

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Speaker 1: feel good to be here. It feels good to be

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Speaker 1: to be well rested, with the help of Erica's medication

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Speaker 1: she gave me on on the flight. You guys, you

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Speaker 1: guys are hurting after taking the naps. Can't take the naps.

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Speaker 1: The knaps classic mistake, rookie mistake. Yeah, paying for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm hanging on by a thread here and we're about

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Speaker 1: a minute thirty into the show. Yeah, we're in the

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Speaker 1: hotel room. We're all on the same floor here in

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Speaker 1: uh downtown London, and um, we set a goal to

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Speaker 1: start taping at four thirty. We have Neil Reynolds of

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Speaker 1: Sky Sports fame, who should be arriving and knocking on

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Speaker 1: the door. A gentleman will be knocking on your door

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Speaker 1: at any moment, Ricky, Wow, once again I got the

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Speaker 1: biggest hotel room. I'm not sure how that happened. Um,

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Speaker 1: and any bigger than mine? Please? All right, well then

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Speaker 1: you should host. The host has the smallest hotel room.

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Speaker 1: This is a recurring theme every time we got on London.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going to do the thing where I

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Speaker 1: try to move rooms. This aggression will not stand. It's

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Speaker 1: a microaggression. You did it last time in Miami. I

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Speaker 1: think mine is actually a little bigger, um and slightly

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Speaker 1: look last time. I last time we were in London,

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Speaker 1: like legitimately a dangerous place to live. There was steps

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Speaker 1: I remember thinking to myself, like, is this this is

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Speaker 1: supposed to be a luxury hotel. This is not a

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Speaker 1: luxury hotel. Now I'm overlooking, like the dining area while

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Speaker 1: window will not stand. I'm going down to the lobby

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Speaker 1: male Karen style. This is just con savory. This is

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Speaker 1: a five star hotel. The NFL sent us over to London.

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Speaker 1: We've come a long way. We've come a long way. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know since five I will not overlook the dining patio.

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Speaker 1: I will overlook the city of London. And right on cue,

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Speaker 1: Neil Reynolds walks into Erica's room with confidence. It's like

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Speaker 1: he's done that before. Just strolls right into a lady

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Speaker 1: hot coffee for me to sleep anyway. So Neil is

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Speaker 1: are giving you a little a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: early jump on the preview episode. This week. We're going

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Speaker 1: to go through every game inclusive, including Thursday Night football,

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Speaker 1: which is actually played on Friday. I just learned this

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Speaker 1: no such thing as Sunday night football. It's Monday morning football.

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Speaker 1: There is no such thing as Monday night football. It's

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Speaker 1: Tuesday morning football. That's what it's like. So just to

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Speaker 1: take him about a month and a half, not with anyone.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it this way. Neil is here. He's sitting

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Speaker 1: realized we're drafting games. I listened to you guys. You

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Speaker 1: never draft in thirty minutes, right, Julie's got the dinner

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Speaker 1: on now you can. You can leave halfway through the draft,

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Speaker 1: You don't know this, but I drive ninety minutes to

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen. So that's Sunday rude. Well, maybe

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Speaker 1: you can listen back to it and critique your own

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Speaker 1: like that would make us class acts. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: It is the Los Angeles Rams at the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Huge division matchup here for two teams, one coming off

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Speaker 1: Niners and then a Rams team that got humbled a

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Speaker 1: another division game. The Cardinals came to Sofi Stadium and

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Speaker 1: when Matt Damon's uh, you know, going after DiCaprio's character

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Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, so you know when you're you're lace,

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Speaker 1: this round robin, and I personally believe there's a big

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426
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: and I think I'll just have a hard time doing that,

427
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,120
Speaker 1: and I'll probably just take my homes because when I'm

428
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: watching the game and Mahomes has the ball, I'm just

429
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 1: gonna be like, how stupid was I to pick against

430
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: them at home when in doubt pick Mahomes. But as

431
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: bad as their defense has been, the Chiefs um and

432
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: it's been bad. It's thirty one in total defense, uh,

433
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: lasting yards per play and big plays allowed and red

434
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: zone defense. They're not getting the ball turned over much.

435
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: It is it will will be a red alert uh

436
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: for Big Red if they lose this game and fall

437
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 1: back below five and the defense is not showing any progress.

438
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: That's something to watch you that that case, defense has

439
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: struggled all year long. All right, let us move on

440
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: to Monday night football, Tuesday morning football, Tuesday morning football.

441
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: We'll just be we'll be arriving home at about half time.

442
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: I believe we do have some Sunday night football. I

443
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: don't have confused things, but you know, six o'clock kickoff.

444
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: It is. It is very confusing to me. Neil, you

445
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: have all so you do you would think the multiple

446
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: trips and then the year. Understand, here we go. He

447
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: already wants to get back to America and itching for

448
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: the Red, White and Blue right now. Now here we go.

449
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: Cults at Ravens Monday Night Football, our last Island game,

450
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: as we call it. The Colts. Neil got off the

451
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: matt in Miami and put together what I thought was

452
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: an all around solid effort. You don't watch a game

453
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: and think to yourself, oh wow, the Colts not only

454
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: have they figured it out, they're about to get go

455
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,479
Speaker 1: on a major run. But it was the type of

456
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 1: game maybe a week later than I expected it personally,

457
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: because I thought we would get this performance against the

458
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: Titans the week before, where a well coached team with

459
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: veterans and some playmakers um steps up and gets a

460
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: w They got seventeen. It's a different deal against the Ravens, though.

461
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not the Dolphins. This is gonna

462
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: be a tough game on the road. How do you

463
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: see this game? I just I'm not feeling the Colts

464
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: at all. There's such a disappointment. I really thought they

465
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: were going to be better than they are. And I

466
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: don't read much until last week's result at all. The

467
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: Dolphins are terrible. Um, I think the Colts were just

468
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: the better of two bad teams. I'm not believing in

469
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz yet. Um I'm obviously watching I mean the

470
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: Sky Sports studio, so I'm watching red zone clear, so

471
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing much. My son George is a Cults fan.

472
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: He's watching every snap. He's like, we can't cross midfield

473
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: with We're not We've got no difference makers. We've got

474
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: no one who can do anything explosive. It's Jonathan Taylor

475
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: or bust Really, Um, I just don't see them going.

476
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: It's Baltimore and winning this game. It's a tough matchup

477
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: because Baltimore is built to stop Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, is

478
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: built to stop the run and make them one dimensional.

479
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: And Baltimore, who I was worried about in terms of

480
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: like whether they'd be the old Ravens defense with all

481
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: the crazy blitz is Man, they threw so much stuff

482
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: at Teddy Bridgewater and Drew Lock like their heads were spinning. Uh.

483
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: Their their defense still mixes it up again, especially against

484
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,479
Speaker 1: bad offensive lines, and the Cults are a bad offensive

485
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: line right now, Like they haven't proven that they can

486
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: protect Carson Wentz. I saw the line in this game,

487
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: it's a touchdown, and I thought that maybe too much.

488
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: I can see the Colts hanging in there to the end.

489
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: But the more I think about it, just wink Martindale.

490
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: He deserves more credit as one of the best coaches

491
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL when he smells blood in the

492
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: water with like a bad line and a quarterback that

493
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: maybe isn't as Um, that isn't Drew Brees or Tom

494
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: Brady back there, like he can just make them look

495
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: crazy bad. The defense, the Ravens defense, and that's why

496
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm locking up the Ravens. Oh, it's a touchdown, has

497
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: to be under a touchdown. He tried, what's your record

498
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: in the lock game right now? Oh, you lost again

499
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: last But if you include her record last season, it

500
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: would actually be five and fifteen, five and eighteen, Greg

501
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: tracking and didn't even said, didn't even look any of that.

502
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: He just split it out the rules, sent it to me,

503
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: Sent it to you, Greg, you are less psycho. Why

504
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: why are you tracking her in this game? This way?

505
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: Speak to it. Um, here's the real I had to

506
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: find out when she quit last year? When when remember

507
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: she quit at some point, so I was like, she

508
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: did quit and then it was like week sixteen or something,

509
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: so you went out of your way to do research

510
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: on this. This is this is a bit skip when

511
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: I'm driving to work. Now I can't. I'm having to

512
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: live through it. It's the tension that it is a fog.

513
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: There's a fog. Um. Henry Hotchen just rolled in with

514
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: more stuff. And this is the most British snack that

515
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: I've ever been handed in my life, called Percy pig

516
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: and pals. Yeahs pigs fantastic. Then wow, I have never

517
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: felt more at home right now. I feel bad that

518
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: I'm just bringing in my coffee when coming in with

519
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: one Starbucks, just coming in with an hour flight. It's

520
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: just like, whoa bro, what hospitality is that? Um? Anyway,

521
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: so Ricky try to lock up? Are we gonna let

522
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: rules rules? There's a code um anyway? Two fifty four

523
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: yards the Baltimore defense allowed last week. Uh so I

524
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: don't I don't imagine Indie's gonna move the ball? Well,

525
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: I really I really like the Ravens in this game.

526
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: Uh And I don't know this could this could be

527
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: a blowout. I think, Yeah, trust the Colsons, Why why

528
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: are they giving the bottle of Otavius Murray they bring

529
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: back Tyson Williams. That this is the worst running game

530
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens have had since Lamar Jackson took over at

531
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: quarterback by far, which maybe that doesn't hurt them this week.

532
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: And it's fascinating to me that they took a heavy

533
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: pass first approach against Vic Fangio and the Bronco is

534
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: one of the best past defensively, So anyone out there

535
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: who was like, hey, the Ravens aren't built to play

536
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: from behind her, Hey the Ravens that can't just like

537
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: rely on Lamar's arm, Like that's what they've been doing

538
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: this year. They've totally flipped the script because they can't

539
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: run the ball right now, which long term I think

540
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: is a problem. They gotta play Tyson Williams and anyone

541
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: who's gonna watch Carlson went still five o'clock in the morning.

542
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: Oh credit, that is that's legit fandom. And if we

543
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: talk about the dominance of Patrick Mahomes in September, we

544
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: should mention that Lamar Jackson is seven and oh in

545
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: his career in October, that is, that's kind of a

546
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: random stat. But that's just something you should know. Uh.

547
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: And then I look at his stats. Seven touchdowns, five interceptions,

548
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: one passer rating, so not that impressive. But the Ravens

549
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: have been winning in October since he took over as

550
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: the starter. Um, let's pause quickly for a break. All right,

551
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: do you really have to get back to your wife?

552
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: Skip the draft? I'm good, No, I'm good, alright, I

553
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: don't have the games still. Is this room like a

554
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: concrete bunk? Curl something I've noice signaled? All right, let's

555
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: do this, Neil, Let's do because we're gonna be here

556
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: all day at this rate. Let's do one round of

557
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: the draft and then we'll say goodbye. Let's do it

558
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: that way, and since you are our guest, we will

559
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: give you the first pick in the draft. You want it,

560
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: you want to look at my I know I've got

561
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: my first one, so I don't know if you can

562
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: maybe off the board. And and if you want, you know,

563
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: to get a lock out there, you know Ricky has

564
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: already started the lock process in a horrifying way. If

565
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: you have a lock throw out there before you leave it,

566
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: tire that maybe it's this game, get us gone? Have

567
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: you checked with Robert Rosenthal. Rosy, I can I can

568
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: give a lock. Greg is the authority for all things

569
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: lock related, but only specifically to Erica's all right, I'm

570
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: going to take the first pick. I'm going to take

571
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 1: Green Bay and Cincinnati. So obviously we'll have all just

572
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: enjoyed the Jets and Falcons at Tottenham Hotspur and then

573
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: we settle down and watch Aaron Rodgers. What are you doing?

574
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: What are you doing during Falcons? Um Jets? You're hosting

575
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: hosting show? You you know, I know, but you're coming

576
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: into so you thought that you would just host. We

577
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: just saw you with the whole show. Now I know

578
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: we're on the sidelines. Whether are you going to be

579
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: like asking us questions? Just basically yes, So I'm going

580
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: to be up like some kind of ivory tower of

581
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: a studio throwing crumbs down to you, airtime, crumbs down

582
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: to you. Do you miss? Do you miss? Used to

583
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: Greg Let's he was hosted like with a big sort

584
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: of we didn't think we were hosting. I know what

585
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: you do during the normal games, but this is like

586
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: your game is actually on underneath, so I don't know

587
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: what happened will be in the studio. You'll be honest,

588
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: ask us, ask us some good questions, maybe better questions. Wow,

589
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: but now you really got to go after Greg on

590
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: live TV on Sunday at the big time. So yes,

591
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: So after we've after we've watched the Jets of Falcons,

592
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: which I will be a part of as the anchor

593
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: of the coverage, and we dropped the anchor in a

594
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: big spot. I love it, Reynolds style. I will then

595
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: be watching because that's our next game on Sky Sports.

596
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: Will be watching the Bengals and the Packers, and let's

597
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: see if the Bengals are for real. I think Joe

598
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: Burrow has shown us that he is. We saw that

599
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: last year. Um, I've seen enough of that already this year,

600
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna he is, saving Zach Taylor's job

601
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: and making that job more secure for him. Um. But

602
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: I like the Packers as well. So this is a

603
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: really tough one to to cool. But I like to

604
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: see good young quarterbacks playing well, and that's what this is. Yeah.

605
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: I think everyone's excited to see what's next now from

606
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. This is coming off ten day layoff we

607
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: saw in Thursday Night Football. Um Burrow was you know

608
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: so exciting and leading a comeback win in the second

609
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: half over the Jaguars. However, it was the Jaguars, so

610
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: this is a big step up. Now they have, uh,

611
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: they have a chance to really make a statement against

612
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: Green Bay. And yet I look at the Desert, Greg

613
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: and this one's stunned me. Right now, the Desert has

614
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: it as Packers by a field goal, and I'm thinking, too,

615
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: my off, like, obviously the Desert knows things. But in

616
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: what world are the Packers you know, almost you know,

617
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: in the same ballpark of Cincinnati. I'm just not there yet,

618
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: I guess, is what I'm trying to say. With the Bengals.

619
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: I think the Packers, even on the road, are going

620
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: to have their way with the Bengals and continue to

621
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: roll roll momentum. And that is why, Yes, he got it.

622
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: If the Desert's gonna give me a field golf, I

623
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: only have to lay that little amount of wood, Ricky,

624
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock it up. What do you think? I mean,

625
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: that's surprising to you? Right you would have said four

626
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: and a half five, Yeah, I I it is surprising.

627
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: But I think if you look at the two defenses

628
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: right now, Bengals top five in the league right now

629
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: in d v O, a pretty good Packers defense might

630
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: not have Jane Alexander, probably won't their best player, Zadarius

631
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: Smith we'd ever mentioned on this show, is undergoing back surgery.

632
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: He's been out and you know we knew that, but

633
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: now he might not return for the rest of this season.

634
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins, the replacement for back t r at left tackle,

635
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: hasn't played in a couple of weeks, so you've got

636
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: some missing key pieces. Those are like top ten players

637
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: on the Packers and and one reason why I'm really

638
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: excited to watch this game not just Burrow against this

639
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: Packers defense, where I think he can move the ball,

640
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: but Rogers and the Packers offense has been good. I

641
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: don't think it's been like the next level this year.

642
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: For the most part. It's had its moments, and I

643
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: think there's a really tough matchup. I do kind of

644
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: believe in this Bengals well coached scheme. And one of

645
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: the reasons they gave up some plays that Trevor Lawrence

646
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: last week was they did not have their two best

647
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: players in the secondary available for that game, Jesse Bates

648
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: and a Woozier. And I think they'll both be back

649
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: for this game, So I think it's I think three

650
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: points sounds about right. I think it does. This is

651
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: a game for someone like Jesse Bates and actually for

652
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: the entire Bengals thing, because we probably don't pay as

653
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: much attention to them as as we should, and they

654
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: to be on this stage now where they're playing against

655
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: Green Bay. He is going to be good for this team.

656
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of with you, Dan, I think it's

657
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a nice stage to be on

658
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: for for the Bengals, but they're not they right, He's

659
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: picking up for this is very much a west Lock

660
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: right here, his boy Aaron Rodgers against the team that

661
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: he never has any faith in, the Bengals. Because it

662
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: was funny last week because all the Westley brothers, brothers

663
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: are at the game. It was so cool that the

664
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: Bengals won for you know, for them, and Colleen mentions

665
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: Chris on the broadcast and that was like amazing. But

666
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: part of me was thinking, to like, man, Chris hated

667
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: this this Bengals team. He would never he would never like,

668
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: he would know what to do. He would love Joe

669
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: Burrow and he loves that his family loves it, but

670
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: I think this is like the moment where he would

671
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: expect the Bengal season to start the create her. So

672
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: that was always kind of a fun conversation with Chris

673
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Um after Burrow was drafted, because there was always that potential.

674
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: He loves such a fun um quarterback with such a

675
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: high ceiliens, just kind of a charismatic guy that and

676
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: I think that's the vibe that you're picking up in

677
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati on Thursday night as he was leading that comeback,

678
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: like we might have something specially, this is something if

679
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: we can keep this guy upright, we have a chance

680
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: to really build uh, this organization back into a winner

681
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: with this guy leading the way. And they you know,

682
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: they couldn't protect him in the first two weeks. Uh,

683
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: they did protect him in the last two weeks. I

684
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: think they were moving people against the Jaguars. I know

685
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: it was a Jaguars, but they were kind of pushing

686
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: him around a little bit. That to me, that will

687
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: be the story of this game because if the Green

688
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: Bay offense isn't running um at full capacity and they're

689
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: not putting any heat on Burrow, this game is gonna

690
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: get very uncomfortable, very easily. I'm starting to talk to

691
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: myself out of my life, but I'm going to stay

692
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: the course and I still feel good about it. Um.

693
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: But I'm I guess I'm saying I respect where the

694
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: Bengals are at right now, and they if they do

695
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: somehow beat the Packers, they start to become one of

696
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: the biggest stories in the NFL. Because they are they

697
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: will be seen as a Cinderella story on the rise.

698
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: So that's that's a good one just to pick for

699
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: Sky Just a quick West memory. I remember you obviously,

700
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: we do the hits on Sky Sports and you guys

701
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: come on and you were all doing them in your

702
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: respective bunkers during the pandemic and wet last season. Came on,

703
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: must have been week four or five, I think, and

704
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: he was in his den or his office or wherever

705
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: it was, and he had like a white board behind him.

706
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: He always had just like a board behind him, and

707
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: he had written up on their in scribbled marker, Penn

708
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:31,959
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is the real deal. Yeah, And I would

709
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: say that to us like West, come on, this guy

710
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: he could be the one. It's can you get back?

711
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: Can you get back? Together? With the Bengals. He never

712
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: budged an inch. West wasn't one to budge an inch

713
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: once he had made a decision on something. But I

714
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: always think someday he kept it going. H And by

715
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: the way, just one last note on the Packers, Um Rogers,

716
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: you know victory is big and small against the Steelers

717
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: and Week four. To be able to work Randall Cobb

718
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: into that game and have him be a factor five

719
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: for sixty nine and two touchdowns after Cobb disappeared, I

720
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: mean you know, you know that he slept even better knowing,

721
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: Like did you see the celebration when he got Cobb

722
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: but touchdown? I've never seen Aaron Rodgers looked more like

723
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: a twenty two year old boy. He's so happy, he's

724
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: there's still a few more days left. He's gonna get

725
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: Clae Mathews a sack on something Behind the scenes, I

726
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: honestly think Aaron Rogers it's more important to him to

727
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: stick it to the GM goody than to win a

728
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It's a good thing for the Packers and

729
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: their fans. Is that kind of it all works together anyway?

730
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: But if you actually uh peeled back the layers of

731
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: the onion, like what his true motivation is it's making

732
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: Goody look to be a fool, and that should be

733
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: a ridiculous statement, but that sounds really really like winking

734
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: at Mike Tomlin. He seems like he's having a lot

735
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: of fun. All right, let's uh, Greg, why don't you

736
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: grab the next game? Let's go forty Niners Cardinals in

737
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: the late window. I hope this is Trey Lance his

738
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: first NFL start, So I really want to see that.

739
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,959
Speaker 1: We're taping Wednesday evening here, uh in London, So there's

740
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: a lot of unknowns right now. I thought it was

741
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: a little bit strange right of the timetable. So Jimmy

742
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: g leaves at halftime, and Henry's leaving, Like I would

743
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: love to like hang out with Henry, butnately a sandwich.

744
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to hang out with Hank in London

745
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: because he's a handsome devil and you know he's got

746
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: all sorts of contacts here. I want to take me

747
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: to the post London Underground of nineteen sixty nine, Like,

748
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: is there a way? I feel like you have some

749
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: time travel possibilities here. What are we gonna get crazy tonight?

750
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: The train? Okay, all right, not exactly what I had

751
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: in mind. I thought we'd be wearing tight eye and

752
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: listening to Magical Mystery Tour. I don't know, I know,

753
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: I know, uh where were we? You were talking about Jimmy.

754
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: So he leaves at halftime with a calf. It's going

755
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: to be a long one, he says immediately at the

756
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: postgame press. So, yeah, I'm gonna be down. I'm I'm

757
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: messed up. And then the next day Kyle Shannon is like, actually, no,

758
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: it's a contusion. It's just a bruise, and you know,

759
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: maybe he'll play. And and I guess Greg what jumps

760
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: out to me with that is like, Kyle, and that's

761
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: there's something that we don't know. This is your window

762
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: to just let the kid get in there, get a

763
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: start here. He got a half of football to get

764
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: his feet wet, and and if Trey Lance plays really well,

765
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: bam we roll forward. And if he doesn't, then you

766
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: gave Jimmy an extra week off and you put him

767
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: back in the lineup. Why wouldn't you take this opportunity

768
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: to put it in the kid. I also, I totally

769
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: agree with what you said. I also think that Jimmy

770
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: Garoppolo on the topic is more reliable. How many times

771
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: has Kyle Shannon lied about his quarterback situation just this

772
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: year long? And so it doesn't when you have two

773
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks that are so different, my instinct would be

774
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: he's just trying to make the Cardinals prepare for both.

775
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: You're not happy that Jimmy's gonna right when Jimmy. When

776
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: Garoppolo said that immediately, that was one of my first

777
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: thoughts was like, players usually don't say that because coaches wanna,

778
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, keep that sense of suspense. I would expect

779
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: it beat Tray Lance. And again I was totally wrong

780
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: and thought it might be Andy Dalton a week ago,

781
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: so you never know which way the coaches are trying

782
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: to confuse you. It should be Trey Lance for this

783
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: game because the Cardinals run defense is really bad, and

784
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: I thought I thought the Rams would take advantage of it.

785
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: And they did run the ball well early in that

786
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: game with Darryl Henderson, and then they kind of lost

787
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: track of it because they fell down by two scores

788
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: and that hasn't been who they are this year. But

789
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: if you go back and watch the Vikings destroyed them

790
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: on the ground. The Jaguars ran the ball really well

791
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: against them, and um, last week I thought the Rams

792
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: did when they tried. So to me, Trey Lance like

793
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: the first trade Lance start, you do not want to

794
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 1: be the defensive team to go up against him because

795
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: you're just not sure what he's gonna bring. It gives

796
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: me a little r G three And in two thousand

797
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: twelve Week one vibes, I would say that yes, from

798
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: the from the running threat. Just looking at the game

799
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: last week when he was in there, it was and

800
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: we used this term with quarterbacks when they're not kind

801
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: of settled or experienced. It was just too frantic, so

802
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: like there wasn't his game plan though, yeah, true, yeah,

803
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: but I'd still I still worry that it was like

804
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: too much and that he's too raw. You know the thing,

805
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if you do this, but we've got

806
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: so we got like labrador dogs and like when you

807
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: put a labrador dog in the middle of the living

808
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: room and then say all the family members call him

809
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: and said, if he comes to me, he loves me more.

810
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: That was done. And your dogs like looking in every

811
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: direction like every yeah, about five times per second. Dogs

812
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: are dumb, And that was I'm not saying that Tray

813
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: Lance is dumb. I'm just saying he moved his head

814
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: around like he was my labrador or some of us there.

815
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: As a RAF reminded me, you know, he reminded me

816
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: a lot of was Josh Allen as a rookie good

817
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: and bad, Like there's gonna be badass plays, but man

818
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: like the bad throws are like, whoa, you're in the NFL. Wow,

819
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Looks worse than when a quarterback does

820
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: a full three sixty and it ends up right back

821
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: where he should have beated the first place. It's gonna

822
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,959
Speaker 1: get And that's why unlocking the car. Oh my god,

823
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: is that allowed? Oh yeah, that's understand. I'm with Ricky h.

824
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: You never never get in lockstep with Ricky on the

825
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: lock game. That is always they're a heavy favorite, but

826
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: they're not a touchdown. I don't think listen, this is

827
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: I can't you know. I know. Kyle Shanahan is a

828
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: figure of fascination. Uh, he's always been on our podcast.

829
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: Everyone loves Kyle Shanahan and I respect the hell out

830
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: of him. And that's part of the reason why I

831
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: can't wait for Jimmy g to be out of the picture.

832
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: And I just they're not fun to watch, and I

833
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: think that's why you should go. I was thinking about this,

834
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, writing qbn X because I thought this might

835
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: be Jimmy G's last you know, sex check section in

836
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: the article for the year, and it was like, if

837
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: you think about and what I mean more is like

838
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: what I mean more is like this is it for

839
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: his time in San Francisco possibly, And what an anti

840
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: climax because it really felt like this year they were

841
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: chasing some sort of ideal that they had a few

842
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: years ago, Like Jimmy G used to make some great throws,

843
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: some throws with anticipation, some wow throws plays down the field,

844
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: like the reference really used to look better, but this

845
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: year it was it's so ultra safe with no big plays,

846
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: and it was like they were chasing Nick Mullins. Like

847
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: Nick Mullins playing quarterback moved the ball better. So for

848
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: whatever reason, I don't know why, it just wasn't working.

849
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: And I think this is a dangerous lock for you too.

850
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: I will take the Cardinals in this game, but you

851
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: can see not as Russian two. It's just such a

852
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: surprise factor and the Cardinals in the same way that

853
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: the Rams were coming off this statement when last week,

854
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: are coming off this high moment. I would not pick

855
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: against Kyler Murray right now. He has taken his play

856
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: to another level. He's number one in the QB Index

857
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: right now. He to me is just like he is

858
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: seeing the field. He's making such good decisions and when

859
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: he needs to improvise like he is the best. So

860
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: I would still take the Cardinals. But I just the

861
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: surprise factor of it all with this team. I got

862
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: one a little worried one of the note on this game.

863
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: And it's just funny when I sit so far away

864
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: from the the action, thousands of miles away, but when

865
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: when NFL worlds collide, it just makes me laugh. So

866
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: Josh Norman was in the Super Bowl, was in the

867
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: studio with with us. Remember when it was the Chief

868
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: He stuck his finger right in my face. I don't

869
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: know why, but I have a picture of it. And

870
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: on that show, Josh Norman labeled Jimmy Garoppolo a game manager.

871
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: He actually said on it he's nothing more than a

872
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: game match. Then I'm like, now, Josh just turned up

873
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. These worlds great and there haven't. That's

874
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: the thing. Look at the snaps. One last thing on

875
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: the forty nine. I think the Snaps tell the story,

876
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: playing Josh Norman, playing Drake Kirkpatrick who they picked up

877
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: two weeks ago sixty one snaps. Kyo us Check has

878
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: played more in the last two weeks than he's ever

879
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: played in his career. It's because it's like they need

880
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: him most. A new who was almost out of the

881
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: league is playing like steps. It's it's sort of eroded somehow.

882
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how it happened exactly, but it's definitely

883
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: like the talent there thought of as this like really

884
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: talented team, but like are they I mean they have

885
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: a deep Deebo Samuel leads the league and receiving He's

886
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 1: been having some big chunk plays it seems like every

887
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: single week. And yeah, it's funny you have you have

888
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: Kyler number one of QB Index. I have the Cards

889
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: number one in the power rankings. I wonder how they

890
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: come into this game coming off that high against the Rams. Yeah,

891
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: because big NFL dot Com people, they're checking a Tuesday

892
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: power ranking Wednesday QB index gets straight to their head.

893
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: I just wonder the lesson nine power rankings that we

894
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: that we be annoyed at them because they're only second

895
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: in those and he's like, you know, going back and

896
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: finding the super Bowl coverage, finding that game manager line

897
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: from Norman, like they're just all over the coverage that

898
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: comes out of it emanates out of this hotel room.

899
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: But no, I think if the Cardinals are going to

900
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: have a letdown, it could happen this week. I still

901
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: like the Cardinals. They're too good five and they're the

902
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: only undefeated team left in the league. All right, Neil,

903
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: let's do one more game? Did you pick one? I'm

904
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: going to do it right now to get you off

905
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: to your But I know how it works as well.

906
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: I should have known that Cleveland at Chargers, and he

907
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: thought of making this the second Sky game. Is it

908
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: not too late? Do you know what? Do you want

909
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: to go behind the curtain? Take me? All right? So

910
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: we get we do we every Monday. We we have

911
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: a group that discussed what the games are? Right? Do

912
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: you have I am in that group? You have a

913
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: loud voice in that Do have a Yeah? You carry

914
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to playing. I don't know if I

915
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: carry the biggest stick. No, but we we do. We

916
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: do discuss the games, and we discussed the games this week,

917
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: and I was quite busy, and I've been writing the

918
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: game programs for the London games, so I've been quite

919
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: busy the last couple of weeks outside of broadcasting. Don't

920
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: tell me about the labor show me the baby Bill

921
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: Parcels and I I am nobody raised the Charges and

922
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: Browns game, and I didn't call him on it, and

923
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: if I would, so when did they go at Giants

924
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys? Those are good games? You know, there are

925
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: three really great games. It's a great window this week.

926
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: I can never go wrong watching justin Herbert, so I'm

927
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: very excited for this game. Herbert. Of course, um, you

928
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: know he is getting to the point. Herbert is playing

929
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: at a level and you know he's one of the

930
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league now, there's no doubt about

931
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: it week after week. But I think what really jumped

932
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: out to me and Monday night, on Monday night or

933
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, depending where you are in the world, was

934
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: how he's not doing it alone. I mean the Chargers

935
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: they are We've always talked about this and it's always

936
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: been kind of a frustration because they have all these

937
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: great stars, but we can never get the stars aligned. Injuries.

938
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: I have always played a factor. And now you have

939
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: Joey Boss screaming off the edge. You have Derwin James

940
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: closing out games with big players. You have Austin Ekeler.

941
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: Pound for pound. That's a great nickname, by the way,

942
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: pound for pounds one of the best nicknames, UH speaking nicknames.

943
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: I have a article coming out in the UK programmed

944
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: for the games here Dolphins Game, Dolphins Jack's Game, talking

945
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: about the greatest nicknames in NFL history, the old Zeuser.

946
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: It was a good, nice little hook there. Neil get

947
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: tugboat involved on the copy there. I was happy to

948
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: do it. But pound for pound Austin Ekeler, Yeah, was

949
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: all over that signment. I love doing it. Um you

950
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: know the one that gets me uncomfortable? Yeah? Which one?

951
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: Daddy Rich? Oh yeah, that sounds That's the only one

952
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: that I didn't give myself. That was a Chris Westling joint.

953
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, that one. Want to say something ba

954
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: about Daddy Rich the christ we'll play that. What's the

955
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: other one? The new Old Berman? Anyway, Austin ekelerd what

956
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: he did. He completely carried uh the offense on Monday.

957
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't so much Herbert, although Herbert obviously

958
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: played his role um So when everything's humming for the Chargers,

959
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: they're hard to beat. And for Cleveland, it's like, I

960
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: want to see this defense now with a big time assignment,

961
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: and stopping the Chargers on the road is a big

962
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: time So I'm not saying I need to be proved.

963
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't say. I'm not saying Cleveland needs

964
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: to prove to me that they're a legit defense, because

965
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: they are. But how good Neil are the Browns on defense?

966
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: I think this will be a real This will be

967
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: this will be a real test. And I do think

968
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: they've they've stepped up on defense, you know, all the

969
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: additions have been real. I still feel I'm leaning towards

970
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: the Charges on this one. I just there are certain

971
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: players always love to watch my homes, you know. I

972
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: always love to watch Aaron Rodgers and Justin Herbert. When

973
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: I watch him, it's like when you're one of the

974
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: haves against the have nots. In terms of a franchise quarterback,

975
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: it's just a completely different game to watch. It's just

976
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: you are a contender and you are watchable if nothing else,

977
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: And I can't watch Justin Herbert through a normal lens.

978
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: Now I'm a Dolphins fan. I'm always watching Justin Herbert

979
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: and her it's through the tour lens. And I think

980
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,479
Speaker 1: we've seen enough. And I know people say, well, Tour

981
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: was in and out of the lineup last year and

982
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: two has been her I've seen enough Dolphins got it wrong.

983
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: Well's that is not so much yet? Yeah, they did.

984
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: Is that about to h It's about that this guy's

985
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: a generational player. Yeah. I mean there's nothing to do

986
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: if I'm not going to say that. Like Joe Ball,

987
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: it's a little bit about too, because the Bengals. The

988
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: Bengals also chose Joe Burrow over Justin. Joe Burrow is impressive.

989
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: It's like I would take Justin. I would take I

990
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: would not trade Justin Herbert for Joe Burrow in two

991
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: first round picks. It's like, I just want Justin Herbert.

992
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: You know, I get it. But if you're not going

993
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: to have Herbert, you're okay. If you're with Joe Burrow,

994
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,959
Speaker 1: and if you're right now, you're like, oh my god,

995
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: did we make the biggest mistake and franchisees. I mean,

996
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 1: here's mistake the coach of Oregon. I don't know how

997
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: college football is, you know, run that well, but you're

998
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: running this thinking dunge off into the national champion because

999
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: if you sold this the number one pick right, it

1000
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: was there all along. And it makes me think, like,

1001
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: which franchise would you rather be? This game is fascinating.

1002
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch this. It's crazy to think

1003
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: that the Browns and the Chargers come into this game

1004
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: feeling like two of the uh best run organizations in

1005
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: the NFL right just like that they're in the best

1006
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: spot that I'm not. The Chargers have had a lot

1007
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: of problems and so of the Browns, and the Browns

1008
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: seemed clearly on the right track and the Chargers, you know,

1009
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: we got to give them a little more time before

1010
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: we get there. But I believe in this coach at least,

1011
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: and they're in this new stadium that's great, and I

1012
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: believe in the quarterback. It's like, that's really all that

1013
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: matters is your coach and your quarterback more than anything,

1014
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: And like, would you rather be the Chargers or would

1015
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: you rather be the Browns? Right now? And ultimately I'd

1016
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: rather be the Chargers just because they have justin to

1017
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: choose one. I think so, I think, well, this year,

1018
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: I would maybe give the Browns a little bit of

1019
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: an edge of being a better team in the long run,

1020
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: But even that, I'm not sure I'd all be the

1021
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: charges of teams in the NFL now, I think justin

1022
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: habit's that good. They're loaded, They're loaded. And on the

1023
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: other side, you know, another first round pick, a quarterback,

1024
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. That was one of his worst games. Um,

1025
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: I've seen at least you know, since his rookie year. Um,

1026
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 1: that was one of the worst schemes of his career,

1027
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: fifteen of thirty three. And it wasn't just that he

1028
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: was inaccurate. It was some of the misses, you know,

1029
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: the that easy walk in touchdown that he couldn't connect

1030
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: with Odell Odell Beckham on type of throws. Just like,

1031
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: what's going on? Is this a mechanics issue or what?

1032
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: I would say that this is not a time to

1033
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: panic necessarily because this has kind of always been part

1034
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: of the experience of Baker streaky. But it also made

1035
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: me think at a certain point greg the Brown's decision

1036
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: not to extend Mayfield, that that is looking more and

1037
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: more smart, because we need to see more from Baker.

1038
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, if you want to get if you want

1039
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: to give this guy a second contract, he's gonna have

1040
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: to show you that he is as a spice Rack

1041
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: put it when we were talking about the Bengals last

1042
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: week when they had, you know, about ten years ago,

1043
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: what he thought or eight years ago a super Bowl

1044
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: roster and a wild card quarterback? Like, are the Browns

1045
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: in that situation themselves with Baker or is this just

1046
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: something where it's a bump in the road. He'll be okay,

1047
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: yeah to me, the contracts, no rush. She has a

1048
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: fifth year option. He's under contract for two more years,

1049
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, this year and next. So I'm with you,

1050
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: it makes sense to wait and see because you are

1051
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: going to learn a lot more about him in the

1052
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: second year. This is a tough matchup. Brandon Staley. Our

1053
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: guy Daniel Jeremiah pointed out that the Chargers have held

1054
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: each one of their opponents to the least amount of

1055
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: points that they've had this year. And those are good offenses,

1056
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, those are offenses like the Chiefs, and and

1057
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: I know it's not like they shut them down, but

1058
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: they made enough big plays they really shut down the

1059
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: Raiders like they're I think they're a tough team to

1060
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: prepare for. I would really be afraid if I'm the

1061
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: rest of the a f C West and just as

1062
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: a charge. As a long time Chargers fan, I can't

1063
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: believe I wasn't higher on them this year. They have

1064
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: shown so much variety. I'm just saying this is I'm

1065
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: just saying it's a long time Chargers, but you really

1066
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: you always trying to push back on the narrative that

1067
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: you're a fan of thirty one teams. The Chargers are

1068
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: that are As a long time Chargers, I mean, Philip

1069
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 1: Rivers has always been a little my guy and Herbert

1070
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: from the get go. They've been my number two if

1071
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: I had a number two. My point is I didn't

1072
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: expect their coachings have to be this ahead of the game.

1073
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: They've shown so much variety in all four weeks. I

1074
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: think that's what really impresses me. Each week is a

1075
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: very different game plan, and they have helped They have

1076
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: handled them pretty well. They cut down on some of

1077
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: the sloppy stuff. I don't think this is a, you know,

1078
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: anything more than a field goal game. I have a

1079
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: hard time picking. I don't know who I'm going to take,

1080
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm leaning Chargers. I think I would I

1081
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: would pick Charges. I think it's Brown's defense pretty sweet though,

1082
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: and the offensive the running game is sweet. Like they

1083
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: just need to be Baker and they're gonna beat most

1084
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 1: every team. I just think when you look at the

1085
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: Baker situation and you look at Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert's

1086
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: already kind of knocking on Patrick mahomes door and right

1087
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: up in that neighborhood, I think, is Baker Mayfield ever

1088
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: going to get to that that level? I thinking around right,

1089
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: and he doesn't. I think is better and more complete

1090
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: than the Chargers, and so he doesn't need to be

1091
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: at that level, Like they could have gone won the

1092
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: suion and doesn't if they had this defense at the time.

1093
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: I really believe it. And I get the numbers weren't

1094
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: great last week, and the numbers make it look like

1095
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: it was a bad game, But why where it's worse?

1096
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: His numbers can be deceiving. It's what are you doing?

1097
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: Big moments? And he missed the Odell pass than which

1098
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: you're right to point out that's relatively routine throw for

1099
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. How about the Kareem Hunt won in

1100
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: the first quarter. That was more the one that got

1101
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: me going, because it's just kind of the classic Baker

1102
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: play where he's on the move and and you either

1103
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: not quite athletic enough to make it, maybe like Kirk Cousins,

1104
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: maybe misses that throw too, and but just you want

1105
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: your quarterback to be able to make that throw that

1106
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: should be routine at this point in the NFL being

1107
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: able to make that throw on the run and he

1108
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: overshot it. It's a flashpoint game for the Browns because

1109
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: if you know, if they go to l A and

1110
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: they play a great game and that defense dominates Herbert

1111
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: and they win, they will be a team that Clowney

1112
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: is a problem, your boy Clowney. There's a lot of

1113
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: players on that defense, and it is a good looking

1114
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: defense if they if they go, if they go into

1115
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: l A and when people are going to be uh

1116
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: pumped up about this Browns team as a super Bowl favorite. Potentially, Conversely,

1117
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: if Baker bombs out again, there's gonna be a panic

1118
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: in the streets of Cleveland that, oh my god, we

1119
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: have this great team and the quarterback is lost. So

1120
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 1: I'm very interesting. I feel like this is a coin

1121
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: flip game. I'm gonna put I'm gonna give Herbert respect.

1122
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: That got the chargers, um Neil. Before we say goodbye, Greg,

1123
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Erica and I are going to move out of the

1124
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: way a second because Greg would like to address something

1125
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: with you. Well, that's true. We're in this hotel. Um,

1126
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't stay where we're staying. You just have

1127
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: well you can, you can edit that out. And it's

1128
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: giving me memories. I I only stayed here once before.

1129
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: It was in two thousand sixteen, and I remember, this

1130
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: is so awkward. I want to leave the room. It's

1131
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: not awkward at all. I'm loving I like awkwardness is

1132
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: when I feel most myself. We know, um, And it

1133
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: was two thousand sixteen, and I remember Dan and Mark

1134
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: called me in West. Now I'm feeling awkward because Eric

1135
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: is putting a video on me. Don't put a video

1136
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: on um. And you know we called up. We we did,

1137
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: uh we. I did a little bit of the show

1138
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: that night, was about one thirty in the morning. That

1139
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: night had been a long day, and I gave a

1140
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: little giant Rams recap. You know, tough day for Jared

1141
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: Goff for for case Keenum. Yeah, it was. It was

1142
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: case Keenum. It was like, why aren't you putting in

1143
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, Jeff Fisher. He's like, okay, maybe you want

1144
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: to get back from the UK. But the real reason

1145
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: I remember it is because I made an ass out

1146
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: of myself that night, and I just wanted to extend

1147
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: an apology to Neo and the rest of the Sky

1148
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: Sports crew whole gang for some derogatory comments I made

1149
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: in the in the heat of the moment with the

1150
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: TV in the corner and just having fun feeling my owns.

1151
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm traveling international for the NFL for the first time.

1152
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: I've been working for eighteen hours. It's just an excuse

1153
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: that doesn't excuse bad behavior. And I made a couple

1154
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: of comments that you know, we don't have to repeat here,

1155
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: but basically alluded to, um, do you remember the comments

1156
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: that you're around the team, could do could do a

1157
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: great job on Scott. Remember my response, yes, we'd like

1158
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: to hear that so well. First of all, point number one,

1159
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't overly offended because I wasn't the anchor then,

1160
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: so it was different. I did sort of out that

1161
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: that the host, you know, was putting it on the

1162
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: wrong tracks. Neil was in a tough spot in the

1163
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: analyst role. It was. It was a tough situation. I

1164
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: definitely remember reaching back out to Greg. Uh, do you

1165
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: think you are rosen tall? You'll never make it in

1166
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: my country? Ever, it's a lone I actually I wish

1167
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: I had said that. I reached out through a handsome handcard,

1168
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: dear friend Henry Hodgson, and I told you to come

1169
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: and be a part of the solution and not to Uh.

1170
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: I haven't even gotten point number three he did, and

1171
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: point number three apology accepted. Apology wasn't needed. And you know,

1172
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: I love you guys. So now you're part of the

1173
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: fraternity until Gregor fend you in some way and you

1174
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: have to work through personal issues with him, and now

1175
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: you're truly part of the group. He didn't need to

1176
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: do that. No, No, it was a genuine apology. It

1177
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: was not it was not fair to you. Um, it

1178
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: was it was you know, my mouth has gotten me

1179
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: in trouble sometimes it was bad. What I look back

1180
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: on it and think is funny in some way. You

1181
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: got to take some humor out of these is like

1182
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: no one really said anything. We just put it up

1183
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: like no It was no consideration. You know, it's not

1184
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: like we're doing a live show. We just like put

1185
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: it up. And what I remember most about it, um,

1186
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: because it did occur to me, was that a good idea,

1187
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: not for like, hey, are we ever gonna work with

1188
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: these guys, because I felt pretty confident I was, you know,

1189
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: putting that one up in flames that was never gonna happen. Um.

1190
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: But it was the tone of the messages that I

1191
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: got from Henry Hodgson disappointed. Henry, it was he was pissed.

1192
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: He still was pissed. I brought up this idea of

1193
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: apologizing to you, of bringing it up, um, And even

1194
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: now he just says, well, yeah, you were. You were

1195
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: such a you're an asshole. You should be apologizing. It's

1196
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: about time to you know, you know, squash that beef.

1197
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, there was no beef. Neil and

1198
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: I did speak about talking about pretty soon after the saying.

1199
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: We talked about it soon after got to yeah, we've

1200
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: had a great relationship since good and it shows I know,

1201
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: this shows your own personal growth as well. Greg, So

1202
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: let's give it was unlucky. It was unlucky for Greg

1203
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: as well, because it was I was still in that

1204
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: checks Twitter every five minutes phase of my broadcasting career,

1205
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 1: whereas now I go on ours live TV. I don't

1206
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: care what people say. I don't even look at it.

1207
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: Give a show now. But that was that was wow,

1208
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: that was that was nice. It's a nice way to

1209
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: end it. And Neil, we will be with Neil Reynolds

1210
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: all week we're heading Greig didn't realize he's gonna be

1211
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: with me, all right, And do you have a chance

1212
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: to get revenge? By the way, just uninviting Greg for

1213
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the cover. I mean not for nothing

1214
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: I have. We have helped be part of the solution.

1215
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: We've made that Sky Sports coverage better. There we go.

1216
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: Neil will be with you at Sky Sports later this week.

1217
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: We will be helping your gang with the coverage of

1218
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: the Jets and Falcons. We can't wait to do it.

1219
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: And Buddy, UH really appreciate you coming by here to

1220
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: the hotel and Uh it's been great and thank you

1221
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: for having me. And that was perfect timing because I've

1222
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: just finished the coffee that I brought for myself. I

1223
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: just got to the end of it. I'm gonna use

1224
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: this as an opportunity to stop down and get something

1225
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: to drink myself. All right, there goes Neil Reynolds, king

1226
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: of his domain. We roll forward. Now, let's um, let's

1227
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: go through all the games in order. Let's drop the

1228
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: draft because it's gonna be a funky week for us, Greg,

1229
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna be at the stadium doing the sky coverage.

1230
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: Can't wait for that. UM, So let's just um go

1231
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: through the games in order from this point onward. So

1232
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: let's start speaking of the game at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium,

1233
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: the Hot Toddy, the Big Tot, the Big Top over

1234
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: the Big Tot, the New York Jets at the Atlanta

1235
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: Falcons to one in three teams. Um, here's the thing, Greggy,

1236
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: I was extremely worried because everything always works out terribly

1237
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: as a Jets fan. I was extremely worried that I

1238
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: was going to be on a plane going to London,

1239
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: UH to cover an owen four Jets team coming off

1240
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: four dispiriting losses in a row where Zach Wilson was

1241
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: making no progress and everything was going wrong in the

1242
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: Jets were the worst team in football. They're still not

1243
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: far off from that. Okay, there's still a lot of problems.

1244
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: The Jets are a work in progress, very much so.

1245
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: But what we saw and I'm very interested. We haven't

1246
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk about this, Craig. What we

1247
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: saw from Wilson in that game against the Titans gives

1248
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: me hope that this season could have some real exciting

1249
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: moments going forward. He might drive me crazy with some

1250
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: mistakes he makes, because he made his fair show against Tennessee.

1251
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: But Zack Wilson made the splash plays we were waiting for,

1252
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: and it helped them beat the Titans, especially as a

1253
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: chance this week at the big Hot Toddy Hot Toddy

1254
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: the top the todd. I mean, he's got to be

1255
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: Boomer Bucks. He just took your first sip. It's not

1256
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: the copy. Wait, wait, before you should we just say

1257
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: real quick what Dan did when he came back into

1258
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: my hotel room. I had my back on, you know,

1259
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: sitting on the side of the bed, and I was

1260
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: just looking at some you know, information for NFL stuff,

1261
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: and I hear sort of like rumbling, and I turned

1262
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: behind it. Dan has his coffee and my coffee in

1263
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: his hands, and he's hunched over like trying to be

1264
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: a gremlin, and he's making it like a Steve Belichick

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01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: sideline face with the tongue on bla la la la,

1266
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: and then Greg's just behind him slowly. I didn't you

1267
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: know we That was actually a lesson. I it's Greg

1268
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: and eyes responsibility on some level to protect you here

1269
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: in London. And what I was trying to teach you

1270
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: was you don't leave your hotel room ajar the door ajar.

1271
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: And it shows you a gremlin can just roll in

1272
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: at any time if you don't protect yourself. You're a

1273
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: woman alone in a hotel room. That's a lesson. I

1274
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: knew you, guys, I knew you'd be right back. And

1275
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: you never know if Steve Belichick is walking around there.

1276
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: Literally could not be more scary thing than Steve Belichick

1277
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: rolling into your hotel room. Well, we walked away, We

1278
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: walked across to the to the tube station. There's a

1279
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: lot of Steve Belichick looking guys over there out England

1280
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: takes a shot in a big spot anyway, No wonder

1281
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, Hanky cleaned up. You know, Zack Wilson um

1282
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: has a chance to do things against the Falcons Greg

1283
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: who once again, uh could not get out of their

1284
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: own way. They're very luckily lucky to have the win themselves.

1285
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: That Giants game, Uh, they kind of stole that at

1286
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: the end, got got a lucky break on a Doory

1287
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: Jackson interception drop, and then they find a way to

1288
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: kick away a game at home to Washington, and it's

1289
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: just like Arthur Smith is going to age like a

1290
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: sitting US president. It's even doubt they should be a

1291
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: one in three team. The Jets should be a one

1292
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: in three team. That that's what they are. One of

1293
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: these teams gotta feel pretty good. They're coming back off

1294
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: the last fight, a long flight two and three out

1295
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: of the start of this season. Zach Wilson made a

1296
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: lot of mistakes in that game against the Titans. I

1297
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily expecting that, just that I chart like near

1298
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: picks or near turnovers, and I had him for more

1299
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: in that game than uh in the Patriots game. So

1300
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 1: he put the ball in Harm's way quite a bit.

1301
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: But he made three or four throws that were just ridiculous,

1302
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: that were like god mode level throws. And it's like,

1303
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: if you give us that mix as a rookie, then

1304
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot of fun, especially when we

1305
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: play teams that can't really rush the passer or aren't

1306
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: great in the secondary, and that's what we got this week,

1307
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: the Falcons lousy defense. I think the Falcons offense is

1308
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: coming together. That was easily the best Matt Ryan looked

1309
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: with Arthur Smith. Maybe he's getting more comfortable. I think

1310
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: we could have some points in this game, could have

1311
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: some points. Marcus May again out for the Jets. Their

1312
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: secondary has been better than expected, their defense has been

1313
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: better than expected. But you imagine that Matt Ryan will

1314
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: be able to move the ball, Kyle Pitts breaks through.

1315
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: And by the way, we do have um another lock

1316
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: involved with this game. It comes from West Incorporated. Wow

1317
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: listening the podcast being in London, We're going to focus

1318
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: on Jets Falcons this week. We all thought the Falcons

1319
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 1: offense would be explosive. Has been disappointing to say the least,

1320
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: and that Jet t has looked okay. Zack Wilson showed

1321
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: us a little something last week and that's why we

1322
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: are all, hell no, we can't lock up the Jets.

1323
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: They stink the Falcons big and we're locking it up. Haymark,

1324
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: if you're listening, get Wilson. Isn't the same without you.

1325
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: I love you. Bron Yes, yet, well, Mark sess, I

1326
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: don't understand why. I don't know why I deserve that.

1327
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: That was a little untour. But then I think about

1328
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: I locked up against his blove at Cincinnati Bengals. That

1329
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: wasn't on purpose either, So I'm not gonna take it personal.

1330
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: Plus like, yeah, that was weird. I mean, if you're

1331
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: gonna come with that much, do it with a little

1332
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: more pizzas, a little more personality. I've seen Nick in

1333
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: a bar. I mean, this guy is one of the

1334
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 1: most fiery, uh guys in delivering a sports take opinion

1335
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I think you're gonna bury the Jets,

1336
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: just burying, that's fair. And I think Nick he's trying

1337
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: to show like he's like the James Dean of the

1338
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 1: Westling Brothers. He's a little cool and a a little detached,

1339
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: a little kind of ironic and a little winking and subversive.

1340
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: That's what Nick's going for. Uh, let's let's drop. Let's

1341
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: drop the acniic. We want the real Nick Westling next

1342
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: time you make your pick. And by the way, but

1343
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: you better be careful what you wish for. I always

1344
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 1: look for a new head coach. Did they bring something

1345
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: to the table. Is there something to find that they

1346
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: definitely have? And when you got Jonathan Franklin Myers and

1347
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: fought A Kassi and all these Bryces I never heard of.

1348
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: You got Bryce Hall, Bryce Huff. I don't know who

1349
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: these guys are, but they're coming after you. And that

1350
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: like when you're taking other guys players and you're making

1351
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: them into players, that shows me you got something. Sal

1352
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: is a really good defensive coach. And I say it

1353
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: to you every Sunday. See j Mosley is making plays

1354
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: every week as well. All right, let's move forward. Up

1355
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: next on the docket, we have good one the Eagles

1356
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: at the Panthers. Did you say a good one? You're

1357
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 1: excited about this. I'm not enjoying Eagles football. It's not

1358
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: very watchable. You're gonna get but it's watch Yeah. Well,

1359
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like the last two weeks I

1360
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: haven't found them overly watchable. And the fact that you

1361
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: know they continue to make these mistakes. You talk about

1362
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: Robert Salo and you're seeing some good things about what

1363
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: he's bringing to them, especially on the defensive side. Of all.

1364
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:21,799
Speaker 1: The the lack of attention to detail fundamentals, just general mistakes. Um,

1365
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: you could look at that and say, Hm, this Nick

1366
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: Sirianni experiment maybe not off to a great start. And

1367
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: now they go to Charlotte to face the Panthers. Who

1368
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: I gotta say, Greg, you take out a phenomenal third

1369
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: quarter by the Cowboys, and you can't really do that

1370
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: because you've got to look at the game as a whole.

1371
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: But they really did play the Cowboys tough for most

1372
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: of that game. Um, with the exception of that third quarter.

1373
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: I I came out of the game the two three

1374
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: and oh teams that people have questions about the Broncos

1375
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: and the Panthers. The Broncos that came out of their

1376
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: loss of the Ravens being like, Okay, I don't know

1377
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: about them. The Panthers I came out of being like,

1378
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: that's okay, they'll be all right. And now they have

1379
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: Stephan Gilmour. I mean, what a trade. Stefan Gilmore is

1380
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: a Carolina Panther. All they have to do is give

1381
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: up a sixth round pick for him. We anticipate, where's

1382
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: the g m app that's it? Round pick? No one

1383
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 1: wanted him. This is two thousand nineteen Defensive Player of

1384
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 1: the Year, A cornerback, and I know he's coming off

1385
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: a major injury, but we also don't even know how serious.

1386
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: You know, the quad injury was so mixed up in

1387
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: the stew with the contract squabble, that would it surprise

1388
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 1: you Gilmore all of a sudden pops up and is

1389
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: playing in a couple of weeks and is a big

1390
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: time performer for them. No, he's on the pup list,

1391
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: so he's out at least a week or two more.

1392
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,520
Speaker 1: He wanted more money from the Patriots. There was a standoff.

1393
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: According I'm kind of piecing together a bunch of reports,

1394
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 1: but Albert Bera had some of this ian at some

1395
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: of it. I think the Patriots surprised him by putting

1396
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: that notice out today saying that he was going to

1397
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: be released. I think he was hoping to work something

1398
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: out for the with the Patriots. It sounded like the

1399
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,640
Speaker 1: Patriots were kind of just done with this whole standoff.

1400
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: The standoff was we want to see you on the

1401
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: field before we give you any more money, and his

1402
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: position was I want more money before I get on

1403
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: the field, And maybe he thought there was more time

1404
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: to negotiate because he was on the publist. It didn't happen.

1405
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: They got sick of it and they got rid of him.

1406
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: That's a big risk. A torn quad, though, is an

1407
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: injury that's changed career as it's ended some careers. He's

1408
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: later in his career, and the key here is that

1409
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: he wants more money now. So the Panthers, I anticipate

1410
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: are going to give him a hefty raise for this

1411
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: year and likely into next year as part of that.

1412
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: That's why apparently no team wanted to trade for him,

1413
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: because the report was that the Patriots put some feelers

1414
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: out there, couldn't get anything yesterday, and then their version

1415
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: of the g m AP damn was just putting this

1416
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: report out that they're gonna cut them and see if

1417
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: they can scare up something. All they got was it's

1418
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 1: almost such a shameful return, and it's such a great

1419
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: player who helped them win a title that it's almost like,

1420
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: don't even don't even don't even do it, Just get

1421
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: give him, let him free. This is a man who

1422
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: I passed by every uh day on the way to

1423
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: our office because his picture is is on the top

1424
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: of the shut Down Corner. There's a conference room called

1425
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 1: Shutdown Corner Conference Room. It's Gilmore making that leaping interception

1426
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: against the Rams to seal that Super Bowl. I'm just

1427
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm bored of it, just like all the Patriots fans

1428
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: that get mad at me listen to the show or

1429
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: a board of it, like me having critical comments about

1430
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: Bill Bill Belichick. But it's like it does again point

1431
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: to that no one's bigger than the team. I don't

1432
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: care if you're a star. I don't care what you've

1433
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: ever done for me in the past. I will get

1434
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: rid of you. I will move on without you if

1435
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: you're not going along with my plan. And it's just

1436
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: I just wonder as you as you spin forward with

1437
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots post Brady, you know that will become an

1438
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: issue in terms of being able to recruit top free agents.

1439
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,719
Speaker 1: When you see these big time stars leave the building

1440
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: and and and acrimonious terms. I think that's just you know,

1441
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: the way this ended is it's pretty grim. This guy

1442
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: has been uglier. It's been much uglier for a lot

1443
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: of other players, leaving Assante Samuel Richard Seymour. This always

1444
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,839
Speaker 1: had a measure of respect. Bill Belges like love Gilmore,

1445
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: but he wasn't going to give more money coming off

1446
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: this torn quad he just wasn't gonna do it, and

1447
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: and they might be right, and the Panthers are going

1448
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: to like they might be right. The Patriots usually are

1449
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 1: right when they give these players away. Um, but it's

1450
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: it's worth a shot for the Panthers. Wow, what a

1451
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: defense they're putting together. I think you saw after touch, Greg,

1452
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: how about a little bit of a softer touch in

1453
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: New England that the fact that it got to this

1454
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: point it was so acrimonious, maybe if you handle it

1455
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 1: a little bit different. Was it acrimonious? Though it really

1456
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: seemed it seemed like it went very well between the

1457
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 1: two sides. I'm sure Gilmore he didn't. He didn't say

1458
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: a word the whole time, and he and he expressed

1459
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: regret that he couldn't work it out, and they always

1460
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: talked great about him. I think they tried to keep

1461
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 1: it professional, but it was just like it's a business

1462
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: and they felt they felt differently. Let's stalk the game.

1463
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: He wasn't quite he wasn't quite the same player when

1464
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: we last saw him, and he's now coming off an injury.

1465
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: In theory, I think the Eagles have the game plan

1466
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: to do a little bit of what Dallas did a

1467
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 1: week ago, which was really pushed around Carolina up front.

1468
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: They hopefully get Lane Johnson back, he was out with

1469
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: a personal issue last week. They might get Jordans my

1470
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: Latta back. I think it's a it's a boom or

1471
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: bust offense, but it's a frisky offense. I don't I

1472
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: don't just chalk this up as a win for the Panthers,

1473
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, I mean you got a garbage

1474
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: time score to make that look better for the Eagles.

1475
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 1: They also, I will say, you know, they had four

1476
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: fifty yards of offense against the Chiefs. So I think

1477
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: overall it's it's a mixed bag Philadelphia right now. Um,

1478
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: but I would say that Jalen Hurts is progressing. I

1479
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: think he's showing you, maybe not that he's some breakout start,

1480
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: but that he has the ability to get the team

1481
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: moving and move the ball. So we'll see what he

1482
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: does against this Carolina front and what's the type of

1483
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 1: game that Carol Carolina wants to make the playoffs. A

1484
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: home game against the Eagles. You're three and one, You're

1485
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: without McCaffrey. Darnold has been not facing a lot of

1486
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: heat last week. I think he's handled it okay, but

1487
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: I think it's a tough thing to ask week after week.

1488
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: Their offensive line is not played as well, so that's

1489
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 1: something to watch. It's a big game for the Panthers.

1490
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: Shack Thompson out. He has been just the breakout star

1491
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: that defense this year. So that's another thing for Carolina overcome.

1492
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 1: Remember Christian McCaffrey not on I r UM, so I

1493
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: guess you could see a possibility that he returns next

1494
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: week logically, but we shall see. I think they kept

1495
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 1: that door open just in case a tweet just now.

1496
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: That good news is McCaffrey was practicing today even so

1497
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 1: maybe he maybe he plays in this game. Interesting, that

1498
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: would be huge. Tuba Tuba Hubbard, Cuba. Yeah, I thought

1499
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: he looked pretty good. Actually, So even if McCaffrey um

1500
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: doesn't play, I don't think it means they're running game

1501
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 1: is shot. But if you have McCaffrey in the mix,

1502
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: that would be huge. Right up next, let's go to

1503
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Patriots. So the Patriots now the post post

1504
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: Tom Brady post Tom Brady week for madness. I'm sure

1505
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: they're very happy to have that in the rear view.

1506
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: Now it's post Stephon Gilmore and a nice little spot

1507
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: for them. I know there are no gimmes, especially when

1508
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: you're one in three team, but when you're kind of

1509
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 1: trying to get your season back on track, a trip

1510
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: to Houston to face Davis Mills and the Texans is

1511
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: very nice because any the kind of sweet story about

1512
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: Houston Texans fighting hard didn't attract to well last week

1513
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: against Buffalo, and in general they are back to me

1514
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: uh as the worst team in football. Oh yeah, with

1515
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: Davis Mills. If the Patriots lost to Davis Mills, oh boy,

1516
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 1: that would be that would be nerv trade for stuff

1517
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: on Gilmore give up like a third round pick. Um.

1518
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 1: I wonder if the great performance by the Patriots secondary

1519
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: against Tom Brady, in which they showed incredible communication and cohesion,

1520
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 1: very vintage Patriots passing off receiver is next level stuff,

1521
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: and they've gotten better each week. I wonder if that

1522
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: influenced it. That Bill Belichick thought we don't really need

1523
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: Gilmore still doesn't make sense to me, Um, because can't

1524
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: you just make them play? Was you're gonna sit out

1525
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: the whole season? If even if you didn't want to

1526
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: give him an that I'm just saying I wonder if

1527
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: that helped that. It's also like a steady rain, if

1528
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: you were drawing your confidence of your defense off that

1529
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: one game. I don't know the secondary. I think what

1530
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: they threw out of back to the game plan, I

1531
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: imagine the weather. I think they you know, from all accounts,

1532
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm not like Greg Costell, you know, knocking down all

1533
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 1: these exce and nose. But from what everyone said in

1534
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: terms of what they showed Brady changing looks basically every

1535
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: play and being able to accomplish that, I mean, they

1536
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: should be able to scramble Davis Mills, that's for sure.

1537
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're adding Jamie Collins back to the mix.

1538
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: So like, wait, what about the idea of like, all right,

1539
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: not to get hung up on this, but you're like,

1540
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: we need to get Jamie Collins back in the building.

1541
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 1: The only way is to clear the cap spaces to

1542
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: trade steff On Gilmore for a sixth round pick. Jamie Collins.

1543
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: You need him back in the building so bad that

1544
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: you're gonna pull the trigger and on the rip chord

1545
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: on Stephan Gilmore defensive player that you're Super Bowl champion.

1546
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: I give up. I don't think well, Jamie Collins is

1547
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: the super Bowl champion too. I believe probably that's just

1548
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: a guess. At some point he must have been on

1549
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 1: one of us two fourteen. I think, Ricky, can you

1550
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: find out Jamie Collins is a super Bowl ring thank you?

1551
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: And I think they had the cap space. I wonder

1552
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: about Jamie Collins joining this group, but I think it's

1553
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: telling because their linebackers aren't getting it done. We were

1554
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 1: sitting very close to each other in that film room, Dan,

1555
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: you did not um paint an accurate picture. We were

1556
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: having fun. We were having mail bonding with other males too. Well.

1557
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: Traditional male bonding sometimes eludes you. So I don't know

1558
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: if if you really were understanding of that that there

1559
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,799
Speaker 1: was some tension between us because you left two extra seats.

1560
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: But like, like um, like any game, if you watch

1561
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: with me and we're just kind of watching his fans,

1562
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: like I'll just speech shouting out some Pat's opinions. One

1563
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: of them is like Dante Heidtower and Kyle Vanoy are

1564
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: kind of killing that. They're not killing them, but they

1565
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: are not who they were in nineteen. You can see

1566
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: the lack of speed. Uh, It's it's a problem in

1567
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: this kind of spread him out NFL High Tower especially

1568
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: as a bit of a bummer to watch because he's

1569
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 1: an all time great and I don't I don't, I

1570
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: don't know a way for the COVID opt out and

1571
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: came back a different guy. I guess it could happen.

1572
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: That's the risk you run. He's getting up there. I

1573
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: think he might be thirty two thirty three, So that's

1574
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: pretty find out how old High Tower is. He's also

1575
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: he's also played a lot of games sing at a

1576
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: brutal position and uh yeah, Collins has just added to

1577
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: that mix, I think because they need help there. He

1578
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: plays a very similar position. Hind Tower is thirty one

1579
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: years old. Kyle Vanoy is thirty years old. That's getting

1580
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: up there. Remember my birthday February ten, Super Bowl weekend.

1581
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to be thirty, so I'm slowing down as well.

1582
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: And Jamie Collins was drafted by the Patriots in the

1583
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 1: second round of NFL Draft and won a Super Bowl

1584
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 1: with the team a year later ago. Well, Champions never

1585
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: Flags fly forever. They did trade him during their next

1586
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl appearance because he quit on the Cleveland twice. Right.

1587
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: This is multiple times he's quit on teams and previous

1588
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: stop the Detroit lines. They have a game that technically

1589
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 1: as part of the NFL, it is against the Minnesota Vikings.

1590
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: Your team, this is a team of zeus disappointed me

1591
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 1: against the Browns. I have to say there is no

1592
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 1: shame in being stymied by Cleveland's defense. It's a great unit.

1593
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: They're even, like Greg said, getting good play out of

1594
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney. Uh. And you know that needs to be

1595
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 1: said to get They're great in the back end, and

1596
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: you saw that with Kirk Cousins, who you know, went

1597
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: right down the field on their first possession, and then

1598
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 1: the Vikings shut out the rest of the game. They

1599
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: lose War teen seven, and they really could not get

1600
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: anything going. Um. But thankfully the Lions are here uh

1601
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: to give the Vikings their swagger back. So this this

1602
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 1: is a one in three Vikings team against an owned

1603
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: four Lions team. But it's still even though I understand

1604
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 1: it's a bad job by the Vikes to come out

1605
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: of the gates slowly for the second straight year like this,

1606
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: I've remained confident that they are a good team. They

1607
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: are a playoff bubble team, and what a good playoff

1608
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: bubble team. Does at home against the Lions is kick ass,

1609
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: and that's what's gonna happen here. Here's what you need

1610
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: all you need to know about the Lions. They are

1611
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: the second biggest underdog in any game this week, and

1612
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: they are playing against a one and th team who

1613
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: scored seven points last night. Well, the Desert knows that

1614
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: the Vikings are typical one in three team. But I

1615
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 1: see your point. Detroit's had a lot of bad luck.

1616
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 1: I feel like there's six, seven, eight teams who have

1617
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: now lost six to eight starters so many injuries, and

1618
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 1: the Lions happened to be one of them. So they

1619
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 1: are Eddie, We're in a really tough spot. They are

1620
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 1: the worst defense in the league. They're competitive offensively, but

1621
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: the worst defensive league. Going up against this Vikings team,

1622
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: it almost makes me think they should just sit Dalvin Cook,

1623
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 1: get him healthier. You don't need Dalvin Cook for a week.

1624
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: I know the NFL doesn't work like that normally, but

1625
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: it should, Like, look at the long game. Win a

1626
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: game with Alexander Madison because Cooks fantasy owners cursing you

1627
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 1: off right now as they listen to our show. But

1628
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: you don't want him a bunch of ten for fifties

1629
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 1: and then he leaves with an injury. He's toppled on

1630
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 1: that ankle. It's an issue. I'm impressed by Everson Griffin

1631
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: the way he's come back. Him and Hunter are a

1632
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: great one to tandem. Their defense should not be overlooked.

1633
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: They played well last week. I think the they will roll.

1634
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: Were were not allowed to lock this game rouse obviously, Yeah,

1635
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean linebacker Romeo Kwara, he was their most important

1636
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: player on defense. Sewell got hurt too and his missing practice.

1637
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: So but to blow you to blow your achilles tendon

1638
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: is such a devastating injury. And that's the same in

1639
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:04,719
Speaker 1: Jeffe Couda had in Week one. Uh. They their offensive line.

1640
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: I think their center just went on I R as well.

1641
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,839
Speaker 1: So when you have a team that is talent deficient

1642
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: and then attrition comes in, that disparity in talent just

1643
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: really is magnified. It's compounded, and I feel for you

1644
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: Detroit fans. But the good news is you can have

1645
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: a big time pick in April. That's all I could say.

1646
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 1: Let's um, let's move on Jack Goff. By the way,

1647
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 1: I like Jared Gotham Detroit. There's something very comes in.

1648
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 1: He's the exact same player, the exact same performance. I

1649
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: do little grades when I'm doing the things he's. Every

1650
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: throw is the same, every game is the same. You

1651
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get, doesn't he, especially now that

1652
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: he's an Alliance uniform. Just the way he moves, he's

1653
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: such a traditional pocket passer, it just seems like he's

1654
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 1: from a different era a little bit. He's the only

1655
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: player under thirty that moves like that. He's a stone

1656
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: age pony, as Mark Sessler would say, Um, but he's

1657
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: doing it at twenty seven or eight. Um. It just

1658
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 1: seems like that is not a guy unless you have

1659
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: skills that really transcend the fact that you're pure pocket passer.

1660
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: In this day and age, it's going to be an

1661
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 1: issue for him. But let's pause quickly for a break up.

1662
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: Next here we go, Hang on, I am a little

1663
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 1: bit uh frazzled here on the road in the hotel

1664
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,759
Speaker 1: in London. Oh, the sun is going down here London.

1665
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: We're gonna go out and get some dinner. Start out now.

1666
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 1: It's nice. It's a good reason for Ricky to keep

1667
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: the doors locked. Um, let's move on. Some Hank is

1668
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 1: texting us about dinner after saying that his brother in

1669
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: law has a lovely pub not too far from me.

1670
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: That's where we're gonna go. That's awesome, all right, Broncos

1671
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: at Steelers, Denver serves some humble pie by the ravens Uh.

1672
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: In Week four at home, the Boo Birds were out

1673
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 1: by the second half off when Drew Lock was just

1674
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: a mess trying to get anything going. Um they could,

1675
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean they were checking down on third and fourteen. Greg.

1676
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: They it was just like we there was a give out,

1677
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: a give up game at a certain point because they

1678
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,520
Speaker 1: just could not find a way to move the ballot.

1679
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 1: And the toughest of all spots, Teddy, didn't look any

1680
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: better to be on to be fair in the first half.

1681
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: So anyway, So now Denver has that situation Teddy, we

1682
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 1: have to see what his availability is here. But they're

1683
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 1: going to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers. T J. Watt

1684
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: filled up the box score again as he always did

1685
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: last week in the loss to Green Bay, but he

1686
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: wasn't He wasn't quite vintage t J. Watt. You wonder

1687
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: if another week makes him that much more dangerous. You

1688
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: imagine it would unless he suffered a setback of some kind.

1689
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 1: But this is a tough one for you, Greg. Your

1690
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: Bronco is another one of your favorite teams. Uh too.

1691
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: You don't want to lose that momentum of the three

1692
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: and oh start. But if you lay another egg here,

1693
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: you kind of have yeah availability. I think I'll tell

1694
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: the story in terms of just where I'm leaning for

1695
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 1: this game. They had the two starting guards who missed

1696
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 1: last week, if they could get them back. Certainly, Teddy

1697
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: I think is a big upgrade from Drew Lock. Against

1698
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 1: that Steelers defense, it's gonna be hard to score points,

1699
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: but that's true for Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's offense has not scored

1700
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: more than seventeen points this year. I know they scored more.

1701
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: The team scored more in Week one, but they got

1702
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: a what was it the only team in the league

1703
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: that a return or a defensive touchdown? I forget which

1704
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: it was. And you're you're playing Denver, who I know

1705
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: is missing some players. But Denver's defense is awesome. You

1706
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 1: know that the like statement or like, Okay, let's see

1707
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: how good the Broncos actually are. Last week against Baltimore, Well,

1708
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: their defense showed up. You know, I know the Ravens

1709
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: controlled that game, but they had to earn those touchdowns

1710
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: and they didn't score in the second half. Like, it's

1711
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: a good defense and there's no reason for me to

1712
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: think that Pittsburgh gets over seventeen in this game. So

1713
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: whatever the under is here, I'm sure it's a low number,

1714
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't know how either team

1715
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: gets over seventeen, especially if Teddy's out. This is Yeah,

1716
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: you couldn't set the under of the under loana for

1717
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 1: me in this game. I it's forty. So that's this. This,

1718
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: this has this has twenty to ten written all over

1719
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: it for me. Um, I don't think the Broncos are

1720
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,759
Speaker 1: gonna put up a lot of points and the Steelers

1721
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 1: are gonna struggle to put points because they have just

1722
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,799
Speaker 1: such major issues on their offense, the offensive line obviously.

1723
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: Now Big Ben, the latest report now is that he's

1724
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: got hip issue. I mean it's like he's aging at

1725
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 1: a at a rate now that it's almost like we

1726
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: need to track this at the c d C. We

1727
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: need to get some signists involved, because he's aging seven

1728
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 1: years every week. It's so now he's fifty nine. It's

1729
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 1: like the Benjamin Button movie. Except he's he's actually just aging,

1730
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: but it's sped up very quickly. I called them big

1731
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 1: Breeze last year. That one's aged well just in terms

1732
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: of like the type of game. Yet he's playing late

1733
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: period breeze look like you know, Well, here's the difference.

1734
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: He's not accurate like late period breeze. And while Roethlisberger

1735
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 1: is great overall in terms of knowing the game and

1736
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: doing things before this snap, you know, as he got

1737
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: older he got much better. That he's still not Breeze.

1738
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: He's not Brady. He's not like Dac where he's just

1739
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 1: gonna like outthank you. I started thinking that last week,

1740
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: that this decline, which I was denying a little bit,

1741
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: it's hard to deny when he's just not hitting open

1742
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,600
Speaker 1: receivers too, Like, what else do you have left if

1743
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 1: you're not hitting open receivers. He's kind of falling away

1744
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: from throws he's known for. He's known for kind of

1745
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: stepping in and at least taking those hits. He's not

1746
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 1: doing that anymore. That's why I still think you've got

1747
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: to give Denver and kind of what they've done a

1748
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 1: little credit here. They started as a favorite in this game.

1749
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 1: Dan but the public is not buying that, and it

1750
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: flipped over to Pittsburgh being the film and I don't

1751
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,599
Speaker 1: know if you watch that. Basically it's a coin toss.

1752
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: It's a one if any game, if Drew lock is

1753
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: starting any game. Yeah, but they were playing like the

1754
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: hardest defense. I guess they're about to again, but a

1755
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: very hard defense to prepare for what they were throwing

1756
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: at Denver last week. To me was very much a

1757
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: coach In speaking of coaches, Ricky play because I love this.

1758
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,879
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen enough in modern sports really when coaches

1759
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: are players just come after each other, the fraternity as

1760
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:19,560
Speaker 1: it were. Uh play Vic Foggio coming after John Harbaugh

1761
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: for calling one last play to keep that streak of

1762
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: one hundred yard rushing games alive. Uh did you have

1763
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 1: a problem with the last play that Baltimore around. Yeah,

1764
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of bulls, But I expected

1765
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: it from them. Why did you expect it from them?

1766
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 1: Because I just know how they operate, you know, they

1767
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 1: that's just there, you know, motive operation, their players, safety,

1768
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 1: the secondary. Okay, I thought first of all, they um

1769
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,559
Speaker 1: Foggio was on Harbor staff once about the time, so

1770
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: when he says, that's the way they do things over there.

1771
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: They don't worry about player safety. That is like a

1772
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: major shot across the bow of Harbaugh and uh. I

1773
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 1: kind of see where they're coming from. Some people are

1774
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 1: in their feelings about this more than others. I could

1775
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 1: see it from both sides. But overall, I just kind

1776
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 1: of like the spiciness of it, because there was some

1777
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 1: real bitter and its involved. I like that just coaches

1778
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: talking trash on the pettiness was so great. He was

1779
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: so mad he threw down his headset in the moment.

1780
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't get it because they were just trying to

1781
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 1: score a touchdown like a play before, so we're trying

1782
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: to be Hardballs literally buried him in his press. Hardball's

1783
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: next and they're talking like, well, what do you make

1784
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 1: about this? You know, Fongio is mad and whatever, and

1785
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 1: and and then Hardball goes, oh, I didn't realize that

1786
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: there was a sixteen point touchdown, Like, didn't realize, so

1787
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 1: he totally and he then made the good point. Well,

1788
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah, you're losing by all these points

1789
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: and you're throwing into the end zone. That's set up

1790
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: the interception that allowed the Ravens to do it, so

1791
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: you could see it from both He's a cranky old

1792
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 1: man though Fangio and he's old, but he might I

1793
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,640
Speaker 1: didn't realize that he was on the step you might

1794
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: be onto something, not just the player's safety thing. It's

1795
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: more that they're into showy records. They're into stuff like that,

1796
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: like the Lamar rushing record, different things, becoming the number

1797
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 1: one rushing team of all time, the preseason wins. They

1798
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 1: absolutely are all about that and so and that's kind

1799
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 1: of like a look at me thing, but yeah, that's okay,

1800
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 1: but doesn't like the fact that you go after specifically

1801
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: saying he doesn't look to protect players like that's that's

1802
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 1: coach like, that's some coach war stuff. And it does

1803
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: remind me. And one of my favorite behind the scenes

1804
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:28,679
Speaker 1: memories ever, which I think I've shared on the show

1805
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: and I won't name the coaches, is that I ended

1806
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,759
Speaker 1: up in this little circle. Everyone was boozed up, including

1807
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,719
Speaker 1: myself an indie during the combine and in the circle

1808
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: of coaches, one head coach of a prominent team, they're

1809
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 1: all prominent for the most part, looks across the room

1810
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 1: to another head coach. Um with his little circle of

1811
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 1: buddies and he goes. He keeps looking over here, Man,

1812
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 1: what's he looking at? He's looking over here, and he

1813
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 1: was like so mad, Like it's really it's like high school.

1814
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 1: Like these coaches there's a lot of machismo and all.

1815
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: Then it's these are all jocks. Obviously good acting. You

1816
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 1: took me there, but I just I love that. And

1817
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 1: then you got the other you got. You know who

1818
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,759
Speaker 1: doesn't care about this though, is Ravens players. If anything,

1819
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: they love it like they no one, like no one

1820
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: has their coaches back more than Ravens players. Like whether

1821
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,719
Speaker 1: they're on the team or after the team, everyone always

1822
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 1: loves John Harbaugh. Ultimately, that's that's kind of the route

1823
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 1: you gotta go with if your players love you. Okay,

1824
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: let's uh move on. The Miami Dolphins traveled to Tampa

1825
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: to get the bucks. You know, handsome Hank who's here earlier,

1826
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: big Dolphins fan, and uh I remember saying after that

1827
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Raiders near miss. They took the Raiders to overtime and

1828
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: lost in Vegas in week three, it's like, you gotta

1829
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: you gotta make sure you win that Colts game in

1830
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 1: week four at home, because if you don't do that.

1831
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: You go to Tampa and all of a sudden, you

1832
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: there's a possibility you're staring down uh a one in

1833
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 1: four start. And that's that's where we're heading now. Because

1834
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, to me, Greg and this is a team

1835
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: we we've spoken highly of Brian Floord and I'm not

1836
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: putting this on floors necessarily. I'm putting this on the organization.

1837
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 1: Just like it's not too early to say, my god,

1838
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: they whipped on Justin Herbert and they went with TWA.

1839
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 1: It's more like, from a big picture, they had their

1840
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 1: chance to completely reboot the organization. They went with the

1841
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: total tear down and going all in with draft picks.

1842
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: And where is that right now? Because when I look

1843
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 1: at a team that in in the summer, we're talking

1844
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 1: this is a team rising the a f C. Through

1845
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 1: four weeks and it's just four weeks, they look mediocre

1846
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 1: and almost every way sub mediocre. I mean, it looks stinky.

1847
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: It looks like they don't have anything to hold onto.

1848
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: You know, they're a good coverage team. I think in

1849
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 1: this matchup coming at this time is is fascinating because

1850
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 1: if there's a coach that could try to replicate a

1851
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 1: similar game plan to what the Patriots did last week.

1852
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: It is Brian Flores in the these Dolphins. If they

1853
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: do one thing well, I think it's mixed up coverages

1854
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 1: and be pretty coordinated back there and have a lot

1855
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 1: of talent, especially at cornerback. So I I could actually

1856
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 1: see them slowing down the Bucks offense. I'm concerned about

1857
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: the Bucks. You know. It's like every week we give

1858
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 1: like the Bucks opponent credit for playing well. At some point,

1859
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 1: I think you gotta look at what's happening with the Bucks,

1860
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 1: not just that they've lost so much defensive personnel, but

1861
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 1: that the offense hasn't been quite as explosive the last

1862
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 1: two weeks. Uh. I see them. I see this game

1863
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: potentially getting a little gnarly if if they can figure

1864
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 1: out a way to move the ball on offense for Miami,

1865
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: which is a big if. But the Bucks are the

1866
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 1: biggest favorites of the week. I mentioned earlier how the

1867
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 1: Lions close to the Bucks are the biggest favorite. I

1868
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,520
Speaker 1: don't know about that. I kind of do give Miami's

1869
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 1: defense a little bit of credit that they might they

1870
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: might cause some problems. The Bucks are worrying me right now.

1871
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't see them as like one of the five

1872
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: best teams in the league right now. Is the way

1873
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: they're playing right I mean, I have them two in

1874
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: the power ranks. I My kind of style when it

1875
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: comes to trying to figure out the landscape of the

1876
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 1: league is I always give a little more UM space

1877
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 1: and a little more juice to the defending champ because

1878
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 1: these title defenses are tough, and you they're they're grinding

1879
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: it out and at the end of the day they're

1880
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: three and one still, so it's not like they're they're

1881
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,600
Speaker 1: in deep trouble. That New England game was that was

1882
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: a naughty game. That was a tough one. You gotta

1883
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: go on the road with all the fanfare and all

1884
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,600
Speaker 1: the distractions, and then you're playing in the rain. You

1885
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 1: find a way to get that done. You get some

1886
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: luck obviously with the miss field goal. UM. But the

1887
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: thing that I think helps them here is their back

1888
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: end is on defense is all sorts of beat up

1889
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: right now. They're missing a bunch of guys. I don't

1890
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 1: know what Anton Winfield Juniors situation is, UM, but they

1891
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: lost Carlton last week and they have they can be

1892
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,600
Speaker 1: taken advantage of. I just don't think the Dolphins are

1893
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: the team that can do it. And I don't think

1894
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,560
Speaker 1: they watch last they can't protect the quarterback Britain. I

1895
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: don't know what's under the Gabard zone because with Because

1896
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: Brissette right now this year is averaging four point nine

1897
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 1: yards for Yeah, it's it's the it's the Jake Brisket

1898
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:10,040
Speaker 1: zone right now. So and now Will Fuller just went

1899
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 1: to the i R. That guy's having a nightmare first

1900
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: season in Miami. It just feels like everything that Miami

1901
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 1: did so far leading into the season is not working out.

1902
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:22,640
Speaker 1: Whether um it's their offensive line development, their quarterback situation,

1903
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 1: this wide receiver um it was supposed to be the

1904
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:28,640
Speaker 1: big leap forward for the wide receiver group. It's just

1905
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: not coming together and getting Tampa on the road. It

1906
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 1: just feels like the recipe for another opposite of what

1907
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 1: you want in year three of their program. This this

1908
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: is sort of the go year and they're going backwards.

1909
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 1: It's not what you want. The New Orleans Saints, the

1910
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 1: Nolan Saints broke Greg's heart Sunday. There's nothing there's two

1911
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 1: things that Greg loves more than pretty much anything else.

1912
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 1: It's the Saints winning, especially if when it's down there

1913
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 1: in New Orleans and everybody's partying and they just opened

1914
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 1: up the building for the first time in six and

1915
01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: thirty eight days to a full house. So the idea

1916
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 1: of the victory there, Greg loves it. And the other thing,

1917
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: Greg loves the Giants losing a big Blue the team

1918
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,679
Speaker 1: that's been the old narratives, old narratives, they don't die,

1919
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: they live on. So that the the idea of Greg

1920
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 1: that the Giants would beat the Saints, and that's about

1921
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: that hurts, and it hurts the Saints, who are two

1922
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 1: and two, had a chance to really build some momentum.

1923
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 1: Now they got to go to Washington. Uh. This is

1924
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 1: a tough one for me, Greg, because the football team

1925
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 1: continues to struggle defensively. But Tyler Heineke at home, you know,

1926
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 1: he's making some things happen this year in the Saints offense,

1927
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 1: I don't trust it yet this I think this is

1928
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:42,679
Speaker 1: a close game. I think the Saints defense is gonna

1929
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 1: be for real, but they need to get more of

1930
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 1: a pass rush. Cam Jordan's just not the same guy

1931
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 1: that he used to be. They haven't had Marcus Davenport

1932
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 1: on the field. You know he won't be this week.

1933
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: Anya Mada is still suspended. They have a lot of

1934
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: players if you look at their roster that should be

1935
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 1: coming back, that are really good players, like six starters.

1936
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 1: But they're not bad yet. Uh And I still think

1937
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 1: they'll be good in the back end, but they need

1938
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: to kind of take the training wheels off Jamis. They

1939
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 1: just gotta they gotta start trusting him a little more

1940
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 1: because he played his best game as a Saint last week.

1941
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: It was better than Week one, like he was dealing.

1942
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: And yet they were just run run, pass or run

1943
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 1: run tastes them and just trying to wait and squeeze

1944
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 1: that defense, um and count on the defense to win

1945
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 1: the game. I just don't think you can do that.

1946
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: I'm not a believer in this Washington team now, yea,

1947
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 1: at some point if they've shown us what they are,

1948
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: and they're what they are is a bad defense. Yeah.

1949
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 1: And the Saints offense, I mean listen there, and total

1950
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,640
Speaker 1: offense to your point, their last in the league in

1951
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 1: big place, which I believe NFL research teams a gain

1952
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 1: of fifteen or twenty yards if I'm sure, do you

1953
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 1: recall it twenty yards? So they are not a chunk team.

1954
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 1: We know that. But this is the thing. I'm not

1955
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:02,600
Speaker 1: saying enough to win games, uh in our league, But

1956
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:06,000
Speaker 1: when you're up and the fourth quarter in your building,

1957
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 1: you need that offense to take it home. And if

1958
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, if you're gonna and this is what

1959
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 1: we're talking about going into that game last week, if

1960
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: your new thing is we're built on our defense and

1961
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 1: making tomorrow centerpiece and running the ball more and not

1962
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 1: making it a quarterback centric offense, well you you need

1963
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: your defense to close the game out. So this will

1964
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 1: be this will be a test for them to bounce

1965
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 1: back from what was obviously a very disappointed I think

1966
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:31,799
Speaker 1: Washington is the worst two and two team in the league.

1967
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 1: I think the Saints are good too and two teams,

1968
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: but the Bears, I put Washington even below them. Interesting.

1969
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: I see miscommunication in the back end of Washington every week.

1970
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:44,680
Speaker 1: You know, they're a team that's supposed to be like

1971
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 1: built on defense, like show up like they're just they're

1972
01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 1: just not there. I love the matchup of John Payton

1973
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: versus Jack del Rio. That's a mismatch. Sean Payton spent

1974
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: the whole week buying his team Yo Yo's well, I

1975
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: keep come on, you're grown man. Here, it's buying. He

1976
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 1: bought his team eighty yo yo. It's like the most

1977
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 1: baby boomer move ever. It's a Bill Parcels move. He

1978
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: used to like put cheese up and say like, don't

1979
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 1: take the cheese. And he bought everyone yo yo's and

1980
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 1: he's like, don't be a yo yo team. Get to

1981
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 1: find a yo yo. No, no, no, it's like, you

1982
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 1: don't be a yo yo coach. Like he was in

1983
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 1: his own head last week. The crowd wasn't even that

1984
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: into it, quiet like sneaky because they were just like,

1985
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,720
Speaker 1: what is this Saints team? But I think it ultimately,

1986
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,600
Speaker 1: it is a tough team, and I think this is

1987
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 1: the big message. And I know I'm there. It is Greggy.

1988
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,639
Speaker 1: Greggy got a w last week in the lock game,

1989
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 1: and now he see he's doubling down on his Saints.

1990
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:44,679
Speaker 1: He still believes. I like it all right. Taylor heine

1991
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 1: fun to watch. Taylor Heineke is living a charmed life though.

1992
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 1: He is fun to watch. But just catch you know,

1993
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 1: the defenses. He just gives other teams a chance every week.

1994
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta take advantage when he does. I

1995
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 1: just love that that comeback the just I don't know

1996
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 1: there is there is a frantic energy, UM fits magic

1997
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: style that I enjoy with Heinekey, And that presser of

1998
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 1: him like getting emotional about staying with his sister and

1999
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: brother in law was like so great and cute and

2000
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 1: it really made my heart happy. I missed that. I'll

2001
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,200
Speaker 1: have to, Uh, you want to send it to me privately,

2002
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 1: we'll discuss it. Great. Moving on the Chicago Bears at

2003
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders. All right, So the big news out

2004
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: of Chicago UM on Wednesday is that Justin Fields is

2005
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 1: the guy going forward. Coach Matt Naggie announced the Fields

2006
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 1: will start for the Bears moving forward. Uh. You know,

2007
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: this obviously is the right call. They've they've kind of

2008
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 1: struggled with the situation. But I guess what you could say,

2009
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 1: Greg is that Fields showed you enough and they made

2010
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: progress scoring touchdowns on those first two drives that you

2011
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 1: could say, all right, we were not going to get

2012
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 1: this guy killed. We got our past protection under control.

2013
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:00,639
Speaker 1: He needs to be the guy and let's hi him

2014
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: and and we'll see if it works. Because guess what,

2015
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 1: David Montgomery, who is the engine behind their offense, last week.

2016
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 1: Is now out for multiple weeks with a knee injury.

2017
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 1: So that's a tough situation against the Raiders front seven.

2018
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 1: They can go get after it. Yeah, it's gonna be

2019
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: a much bigger challenge this week. But there was no

2020
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 1: way you could sit fields after that performance. I know

2021
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 1: they didn't ask him to do too much, but he

2022
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 1: also made some high level throws, like he made three

2023
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 1: or four throws in that game that we're like, whoa

2024
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 1: they see in the deep accuracy. That's what his calling

2025
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 1: card is. I don't think he's like a Zack Wilson

2026
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 1: or Lawrence whereas a thrower, he'll be up and down.

2027
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 1: His problem I think is just gonna be holding the

2028
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 1: ball too long and like trying to make a play

2029
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,679
Speaker 1: and maybe that's not gonna work. But if you can

2030
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 1: set up some schemed up plays down the field, like

2031
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 1: he can hit it, and you've got to give him

2032
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:56,960
Speaker 1: more of a chance. I don't think the Raiders defense

2033
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: is bad this year, but they're not great either. They're

2034
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 1: getting bad up in the secondary. Like this, you should

2035
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 1: be able to make some hay and uh, you know

2036
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Bill Laser, he's back. He's back. Good to have them

2037
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: in our life. That's good. The Lasers back and calling

2038
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 1: plays for the Bears. Mati doesn't want to talk about it.

2039
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 1: He told the media, I'm not talking about this anymore,

2040
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: all right, Bro, That's fine. Lasers calling the plays though. Um, like,

2041
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: I thought about covering locking up this game for the Raiders,

2042
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 1: but then you know, looking at that team, the problems

2043
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: they have, I feel like no game is gonna be

2044
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 1: easy for them if you really look at it, Like

2045
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: I feel like every game is gonna come down to

2046
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 1: the wire. Their offensive line has problems, they don't really

2047
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 1: have a running game. I think they'll end up winning

2048
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 1: a lot of games and that they'll win this game,

2049
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,679
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be sweating it. Um. Ricky

2050
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 1: played Joey Bosa destroying Derek Carr on Monday night. We

2051
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 1: knew once we hit him a few times, you really

2052
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: get shook. And you saw him on c C. Sack,

2053
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: who was pretty much curling in the ball before we

2054
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 1: even got back there. So, um, great, great players been

2055
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 1: having a great here, but we know once you get

2056
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 1: pressure on him, he kind of shuts down and he's

2057
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 1: not as effective with the with the crowded pockets. So

2058
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: that was that was the key to again back to

2059
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 1: the fraternity thing. I was talking to Trotter, Jimmy Trotter,

2060
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 1: our colleague at NFL Media, uh, the day before we

2061
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:17,640
Speaker 1: left for London, and he was all hot. He was

2062
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 1: hot and bothered about it, and he was called that

2063
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 1: this is the to see a player, the fraternity of

2064
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 1: the players come after a man's and call him essentially

2065
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 1: soft is something you don't typically see. And I think

2066
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 1: it does get to it's not necessarily even a Bosa thing,

2067
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 1: but uh, people are never overly convinced by Derek Carr.

2068
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 1: Uh So the fact that he had a stumble in

2069
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 1: a game where he was pressured on his dropbacks and

2070
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 1: and wasn't able to move the raiders with regularity, a

2071
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: lot of people were like, yep, I told you, so

2072
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 1: he's actually not good. There's always that element with Derek

2073
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Carr and Joey Bosa. Just throw fuel on that fire. Well,

2074
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 1: that he was saying what the players think? I mean,

2075
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,439
Speaker 1: I want to know what the players think. And this

2076
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 1: was Car's reputation I think that he earned in previous years.

2077
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing like that now. But there

2078
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 1: were a couple drives early in that game. Where I

2079
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 1: knew what Bosa was talking about. If you watch the game,

2080
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 1: you did where he did sort of give up crumple

2081
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: on the play and the pressure was coming, but then

2082
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 1: he rebound and play just to that point, like go

2083
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 1: watch Peek Peyton Manning and see what happens when the

2084
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 1: past protection breaks down and there's nowhere to go. Either

2085
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 1: throws it away or he was famous for doing that

2086
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: duck and slide. I'll take the sack. I live for

2087
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 1: another doubt. I don't think that's a sign of weakness.

2088
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a sign of a quarterback that sometimes

2089
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 1: you just say that's it. This play is dead and

2090
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the l rather than get crushed and

2091
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 1: mixed miss six weeks with a separated shoulder. You know

2092
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:53,680
Speaker 1: that's fair. I do love just the laconic delivery of

2093
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa as he destroys you, because he was even

2094
01:47:57,160 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 1: tougher on the officials when talking about the officials, just

2095
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 1: like should not basically have the right to live, But

2096
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 1: he just does it in this like, oh, you know,

2097
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: this is a fistal. I don't know what they're even

2098
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: doing out there, Like they shouldn't even have a job.

2099
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know, there's something funny out the way

2100
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 1: Joey both doesn't and I totally clip that wasn't Greg? Yeah, yeah,

2101
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: that was great. I totally I don't think we should

2102
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 1: take the fraternity of the players stuff so seriously because

2103
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 1: you never played the game. They played football, but hey,

2104
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 1: you know played the game. Bro. It's bs though, because

2105
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 1: you know who talked more trash than anyone all the time?

2106
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:38,439
Speaker 1: Every player in the sixties, seventies and eighties, like before

2107
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 1: there was mass media, they talked match because they knew

2108
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 1: it was a game. And that's what you do, is

2109
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 1: you talk about other players that you think are whims,

2110
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 1: whether you're right or wrong. Like that's like I want

2111
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,160
Speaker 1: more of that. That's like being you know, being in

2112
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:53,759
Speaker 1: the broadcast world and like talking about you know, another

2113
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 1: broadcast right, like you don't a lot of ways that

2114
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 1: just an old school, rugged type dude do that that

2115
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 1: doesn't worry about feelings. No, I like it, just like

2116
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: I like the Foggio thing. But the only thing that

2117
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: kind of was on my radars because I do like

2118
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr is an underrated guy. I've been

2119
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 1: saying that for years. People were getting on the bandwagon

2120
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 1: the first three weeks after that hot start, when he's

2121
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 1: averaging four yards a game. It's just so funny how

2122
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 1: people are quick to either jump off the bandwagon or

2123
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 1: you see another player kind of poke the bear by saying, yeah,

2124
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 1: this guy is actually not for real. It's some about

2125
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 1: car that bothers people. It's just something about him. You're right,

2126
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:33,680
Speaker 1: and uh, they gotta protect better for him, because I

2127
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 1: don't think they protected well the first three weeks either.

2128
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 1: I think he's played really well despite that, but it's

2129
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 1: hard to go seventeen weeks like that. And I love

2130
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 1: the Raiders, like I said, when they're in that building,

2131
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 1: the Raiders are a vibe. So don't trip over your

2132
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 1: own junk here against the Bears. Show us that you

2133
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 1: are indeed a legit playoff level team in the a

2134
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,719
Speaker 1: f C. And beat the Bears, who have a good

2135
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 1: but not great defense and a rookie a quarterback. Go

2136
01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 1: take care of business. Don't make this dramatic. Finally, I

2137
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:06,600
Speaker 1: believe it's been a long one. Sorry everybody if this

2138
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 1: feels a little too long, But you know, you only

2139
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: get one show leading up to week five, so we

2140
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 1: figured we could let it breathe a little bit, UH

2141
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 1: and again thanking to Neil Reynolds for joining us. UH.

2142
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 1: The final game we'll talk about here is the Cowboys

2143
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 1: at home against the Legim And right after this, Cowboys

2144
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 1: made news this week. Jalen Smith, who was a linebacker

2145
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 1: they drafted in the first round out of Notre Dame

2146
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 1: once upon a time, a lot of concerns when he

2147
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 1: came into the league about a foot injury. I believe

2148
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 1: it was or was it a knee um that I

2149
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 1: always get a confused, But Miles Jack and Jalen Smith

2150
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:47,799
Speaker 1: both came into the league as highly touted UH defensive

2151
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 1: players with a serious injury they're coming off. But Jalen

2152
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:54,719
Speaker 1: Smith came into the league, overcame the injury issue, got paid,

2153
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 1: got on a second count contract, and then became um

2154
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 1: marginalized in the Cowboys the sense of plans with the

2155
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 1: rise of other players, so they cut They cut ties

2156
01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:07,600
Speaker 1: with Jalen Smith on Wednesday, releasing the venter and linebacker.

2157
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 1: Very surprising because they were giving him who was the

2158
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 1: drop foot snaps? Was Jalen a drop foot guy? Ricky?

2159
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Jack was the drop foot guy.

2160
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 1: Who was the drop He's had a good career though,

2161
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: so it turned out to be um, you know, worrying

2162
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 1: too much about those injuries either way, the drop foot

2163
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 1: that plagued Dallas Cowboys linebacker Jen when he suffered nerve

2164
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 1: damage of his career roster Ruben Foster. Yeah, there was

2165
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 1: a torn a c l and then the nerve damage

2166
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 1: that came with it was a whole one, just the whole.

2167
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 1: But it was the nerve damage that was crazy. Um

2168
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 1: what This was such a such a Dallas Cowboys moment though,

2169
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 1: because Jalen Smith is a great guy. He was like

2170
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:03,479
Speaker 1: a leader for their London at night, and they they

2171
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 1: gave him a huge second contract at a point when

2172
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 1: they absolutely didn't have to because it was like a

2173
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 1: moment where the Cowboys needed some good news. I remember this.

2174
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 1: They were going through it and Jerry Jones then like

2175
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: calls this press conference to almost stop all the bad

2176
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 1: news from happening, and it's like, here's this great story,

2177
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:22,640
Speaker 1: our developmental guy. And it was that Jalen Smith at

2178
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 1: a peak, him and Letton Vanderesh. I remember West saying

2179
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 1: like those two look like the new bowman and Patrick

2180
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 1: Willis like the linebacker. Do they give him all this

2181
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:34,760
Speaker 1: guaranteed money and his play just declined almost like the

2182
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 1: minute the contract was signed. Uh, they still owe him

2183
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,679
Speaker 1: a ton of guaranteed money this year that they're gonna

2184
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 1: have to pay him just to go away. But I

2185
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 1: think it was just an awkward situation because he didn't

2186
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,679
Speaker 1: need to play that much. But he was like a leader,

2187
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 1: almost like a Cam Newton thing, where of course they like,

2188
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 1: they like him, but it's awkward if your leaders like

2189
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:54,839
Speaker 1: fourth on the depth chart at a two man position,

2190
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 1: so you get rid of him. And I think it

2191
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:58,639
Speaker 1: just shows how good their defense is in a way

2192
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 1: because us they're so desperate for any semblance of talent

2193
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 1: that you're like waiting through four years of Randy Gregory

2194
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 1: suspensions because you just need him. But right now they

2195
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 1: don't need it. They got a lot of defensive players.

2196
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm amazed by this Cowboys. They Yeah, they

2197
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 1: hit on Michael Parsons obviously, and they've hit on Trayvon Dick,

2198
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 1: so that's back to back years. And they hit on

2199
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,840
Speaker 1: Dicky Zoa is a is a player and he was

2200
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 1: a third And how long have we been waiting for

2201
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 1: this um? For the Cowboys who have always done well

2202
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 1: building an offense, but now to have a big name,

2203
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 1: young talent on defense. That's what makes them so far

2204
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 1: this year. I don't know if they'll stay there, but

2205
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 1: they don't know. Nobody had them at this level. I mean,

2206
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 1: the die hard Cowboys fans, I'm sure did, but I

2207
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 1: think everyone else was in a wait and see mode

2208
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys because they always kind of look good

2209
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 1: on paper and then the season starts and it's like,

2210
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 1: not exactly the way things play out, but you know,

2211
01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna be an interesting game because the Giants

2212
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 1: are coming off a really, really nice, when desperately needed win,

2213
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 1: obviously after the own three start and which you saw

2214
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 1: from Daniel Jones uh throwing for four hundred yards against

2215
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 1: a good Saints defense without his top two pass catchers

2216
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:12,799
Speaker 1: or two of his top pass catchers in the lineup.

2217
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 1: And then more importantly, I thought this was the game

2218
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:17,640
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, se Kwan's back now, like and

2219
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 1: I know, um coming back from a knee injury like that,

2220
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 1: maybe there's gonna be peaks and valleys this season. But

2221
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: the fact that they just put it on him and

2222
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:27,679
Speaker 1: when they needed a big play in the fourth quarter,

2223
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,559
Speaker 1: se Quon gave to him fifty six yard touchdown when

2224
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: they needed to stick it in the end zone and

2225
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: not give the ball back to the Saints in overtime. Again,

2226
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 1: it was se Quon that pounded and found a way,

2227
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 1: and you saw, especially after that touchdown the one fourth quarter,

2228
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 1: how excited Barkley was, like he was a man on

2229
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 1: fire looking and he ran straight to Daniel Jones at

2230
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 1: midfield and celebrated with him. There's some good vibes with

2231
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 1: the Giants. I can't hate this Giants team. You're saying,

2232
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 1: I love seeing them lose, but just show me some fun,

2233
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 1: good football and then I like you. I I think

2234
01:54:57,960 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 1: this is the best one and three team in the league.

2235
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 1: I said this week they're the best oh and three

2236
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 1: team in the league. Now they're the best one in

2237
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 1: three team in the league. This is the best Giants

2238
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:08,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys game I can think of in a while, because

2239
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 1: usually they're just these boring games. Daniel Jones is playing

2240
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 1: the best ball of his career. Could aias Tony is

2241
01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a guy? I know he had all these

2242
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 1: issues and maybe he'll be He'll have more I don't know,

2243
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 1: but his first step explosion is insane. It's like Tyreek

2244
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: hillis I'm not saying these Tyreek Hill, but figure out

2245
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 1: a way to get him the ball in space, because

2246
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: my god, he was a factor. And then you combine

2247
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 1: him with Barkley and Golladay and Jones making really good decisions.

2248
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 1: I think they're dangerous. Their defense has played better the

2249
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 1: last two weeks. I think it's gonna be a good game.

2250
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, to me, might be the best team in

2251
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 1: the league. So I wouldn't pick against them in any spot.

2252
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 1: Why they're actually a touchdown favor. I couldn't even lock

2253
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 1: up the Cowboys, but I guess what, I wouldn't even

2254
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 1: because I think this will be a close skill to

2255
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: love him right now, Well, it's just with the With

2256
01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, everyone gets mad, like the greater football world,

2257
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 1: like fans and media, but especially fans, like like, why

2258
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 1: do the Cowboys get too much coverage? And like, oh,

2259
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 1: everyone calls him America's team. They're not America's team. Look

2260
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: if they haven't been to the Super Bowl in twenty

2261
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 1: five years. But what happens is whenever the Cowboys get good,

2262
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 1: everybody goes crazy and people love it. And that's why,

2263
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 1: like I'm not surprised that their favored this much, because

2264
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys are good, people push everything to the

2265
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 1: center of the table. Tyrone Smith going to the Holliday

2266
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 1: Notes playing great. Greg's notebook fell down and I just

2267
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 1: looked in his Chricken scratch and under under the New

2268
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 1: York Giants Dallas game right under the first thing says

2269
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 1: so into disc game explanation. Oh my god, that's amazing.

2270
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 1: There's what if you turn the page and it was

2271
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 1: just like it was written over and over a thousand times.

2272
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 1: Ricky must lose the lock games. Must lose the Ricky

2273
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 1: must lose the lock game. Ricky must because I mean

2274
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Tyrant Smith, Hall of Famer Zack Martin.

2275
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:10,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna get Lyle Collins back. They're moving people. Ceedee Lamb.

2276
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 1: One of the most exciting young players in the league.

2277
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 1: Marii Cooper shouldn't have gotten kicked out of the Superstar Club.

2278
01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 1: Sorry about that one two punch Zeke and Pollard no better.

2279
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 1: Dak at the peak of his powers. Kellen Moore, you

2280
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 1: know calling up plays a fun like frisky defense with

2281
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 1: a defensive rookie there, what's not the like like? I

2282
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 1: don't know there to me in an offensive league, I

2283
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: just would be stunned if they don't win twelve games,

2284
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: or at least it doesn't. It also feel like, and

2285
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 1: I know this feels like a different Cowboys team. Couldn't

2286
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 1: you see them tripping up here? Even good team? Like

2287
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 1: if they go eleven and six, that's gonna be five

2288
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 1: more disappointing Sundays to go. So sure, they could lose

2289
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 1: this game, but I think in the long run they

2290
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:55,480
Speaker 1: will be fine. But in the even longer run of

2291
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 1: this show, I've realized we do have another game, Yes,

2292
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 1: Tennessee at Jacksonville. The game. Everyone's the reason why. I

2293
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 1: was like, I was looking at my notes, my little

2294
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 1: sub notes, which isn't there's no madness, is just straightforward

2295
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 1: things that we should touch on. Urban Meyer was written,

2296
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: uh down, and yes, the Jaguars are owing four. They

2297
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:18,919
Speaker 1: lost a crusher on Thursday night to Cincinnati, and everybody

2298
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 1: knows the story. We don't need to go through it exhaustively.

2299
01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 1: But urban Meyer stays behind in Ohio with the team

2300
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 1: flies back without him, and then he gets into a

2301
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 1: he has a fun little night put it that way

2302
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 1: at his bar is caught on video, which is just

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01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 1: madness that you could be. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he was drunk or what, but it's just like, dude,

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01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 1: how can you not have the awareness, uh to be

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01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:45,320
Speaker 1: out in public with a woman dancing up on you.

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01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 1: It leads to him having a super super embarrassing press conference, uh,

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01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 1: super super humiliating situation where the owners coming out and

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01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 1: saying that our head coach, we just paid a trillion dollars,

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01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 1: has to read and our trust and respect and even worse,

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01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:05,720
Speaker 1: the Mike Silver reporting greg that we saw it on

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01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 1: Twitter as a good silver thread, and I love a

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01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 1: good silver threat. Everybody loves a good silver thread because

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01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 1: he brings the melodrama of the NFL to the forefront.

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01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 1: Just that that he that Meyer canceled the team meeting

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01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 1: on Monday, which is a really bad look as this

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01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 1: fallout from this incident was occurring, and then he had

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01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 1: some meetings with players who, according to Silver's reporting, just

2319
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 1: essentially laughed the coach out of the building as soon

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01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:33,120
Speaker 1: as the door closed and he left the room because

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01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 1: they don't buy his act at all. So that's that's

2322
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 1: a tough situation for Trevor Lawrence as a rookie. That

2323
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 1: is a dire situation for Jack's management, who have an

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01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 1: owned four team and a high profile coach under fire

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01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:50,440
Speaker 1: here with the Titans coming to town. What a mess.

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01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 1: It's such a mess. Just be real with like I

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01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 1: think he thinks he Irban Meyer can like get away

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01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 1: with b sen grown men. And it's like, you didn't

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02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:08,400
Speaker 1: get away with b sing your college players because they

2330
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:12,760
Speaker 1: like believed you and necessary believed in all your team

2331
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 1: culture stuff. You got away with it because like you

2332
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 1: were their boss and they had no choice, and they

2333
02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:20,840
Speaker 1: still on some level they still have no choice. And

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Speaker 1: Chris Long, Who's played on a lot of teams and

2335
02:00:24,440 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 1: played on some championship teams and played on some really

2336
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 1: bad rams teams, said, if I'm a Jaguar right now,

2337
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm my own CEO, which is basically like every man

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Speaker 1: for himself. No one respects the head coach. You gotta

2339
02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:39,960
Speaker 1: you gotta protect what you do because you're gonna make

2340
02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 1: your living off of it. But like they've lost they've

2341
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:45,760
Speaker 1: lost any respect, not because he had a girl dancing

2342
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:48,400
Speaker 1: up on him, but because of how he handled it

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02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:50,920
Speaker 1: after the fact, and because of the fact he didn't

2344
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:53,840
Speaker 1: take the team playing home, which is not something I

2345
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:56,480
Speaker 1: like him, I know a lot about. But now I've

2346
02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 1: heard a ton of ex players and a ton of

2347
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:01,400
Speaker 1: people covered league talk about that. That's like unheard of

2348
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:04,480
Speaker 1: that a team would lose a Thursday night game and

2349
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:06,680
Speaker 1: the coach would like like, oh no, I'm not going

2350
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:08,640
Speaker 1: back with the team. I'm just gonna like hang out

2351
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:11,760
Speaker 1: in Ohio. That's the bigger, the bigger thing than having

2352
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:14,800
Speaker 1: the good I don't know if he was hoping, like

2353
02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 1: the players would never know about that, but they're all

2354
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:19,880
Speaker 1: on the same team flight and like the holes all

2355
02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:23,480
Speaker 1: for one one fight, like like I'm gonna go get

2356
02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:25,240
Speaker 1: with the day after the game. That Friday is an

2357
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:27,640
Speaker 1: off day for the players, but the coach is supposed

2358
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:29,880
Speaker 1: to be back in the office grinding away. I don't

2359
02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:33,240
Speaker 1: think he understands the responsibility of being a head coach.

2360
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:35,720
Speaker 1: And it's just it's such a tough situation when he's

2361
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:38,840
Speaker 1: not bringing anything to the table that would make up

2362
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 1: for it. Like if you're seeing some Chip Kelly in

2363
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:44,280
Speaker 1: year one type like oh he's changed in the league.

2364
02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 1: They're playing fast, It's like no, they're running some vanilla

2365
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:51,600
Speaker 1: vanilla stuff on ball sides, especially the defense is a tough,

2366
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:55,320
Speaker 1: tough watching jackson And if you are a if you're

2367
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:58,120
Speaker 1: a fan of the Titans, like Grave Digger, just thank

2368
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 1: your lucky stars here because you're coming off you had

2369
02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:05,880
Speaker 1: Jets Jacksonville back to back weeks. I mean you you

2370
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:08,680
Speaker 1: penciled in back to back w' is obviously before the season.

2371
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:11,000
Speaker 1: You somehow find a way to lose to the Jets

2372
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:14,760
Speaker 1: in overtime. Uh, show up in this game and and

2373
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,400
Speaker 1: kick the butt and kind of get back on track.

2374
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:19,160
Speaker 1: We are we know the state of the a f

2375
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:23,000
Speaker 1: C South. We know this feels like potentially a nine

2376
02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 1: win division champion. Uh coming into play a nine and

2377
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 1: eight type season could get you the job done. So

2378
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:32,720
Speaker 1: you have to take advantage of these soft sports, soft

2379
02:02:32,760 --> 02:02:34,880
Speaker 1: spots in the schedule. They didn't do it against the Jets.

2380
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 1: Do it against the Jags. I don't know what the

2381
02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:40,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver health situation is. They didn't have Julio or

2382
02:02:40,160 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 1: a j last week. Um, but they they are not

2383
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:47,560
Speaker 1: a great They are bottom five team in the league.

2384
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:49,840
Speaker 1: Maybe when they don't have those two guys. Yes, they're

2385
02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:52,840
Speaker 1: very one dimension and I mean it's a creditable tails

2386
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 1: of line is falling apart. I mean, the Jets took advantage,

2387
02:02:55,720 --> 02:02:57,760
Speaker 1: but they're not the first team. Daniel was taking more

2388
02:02:57,800 --> 02:03:00,480
Speaker 1: sacks than any quarterback in the league, right, Hannah Hill,

2389
02:03:00,520 --> 02:03:03,440
Speaker 1: I think is still playing well. Derrick Henry is still

2390
02:03:03,440 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. But right now it feels like a two

2391
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:09,440
Speaker 1: man crew and it's just asking too much. But normally,

2392
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:11,440
Speaker 1: I'd say this is a winnable game for the Jags

2393
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:13,480
Speaker 1: if they were gonna win one a home game against

2394
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:16,720
Speaker 1: the banged up Titans. But the bad juju here, Uh,

2395
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know, by the way, if the

2396
02:03:18,760 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 1: Titans somehow uh lost in this game, and I can't

2397
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:25,600
Speaker 1: imagine that they would, especially with everything that's going around

2398
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 1: around the Jaguars, that team is not going to show

2399
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:29,840
Speaker 1: up ready to play. You wouldn't think on Sunday. Uh,

2400
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 1: Titans have home games against the Bills and Chiefs up next,

2401
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:36,720
Speaker 1: So you better win this game, all right? I mean,

2402
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 1: come on, Urban, what are we doing? Buddy? What are

2403
02:03:40,680 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 1: we doing? If you, like, are for some reason enjoying

2404
02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 1: this Urban Meyer downfall, perhaps you are a fan of

2405
02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:50,440
Speaker 1: one of the Big ten teams that he you know,

2406
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:53,120
Speaker 1: would stomp on and kind of preen about it. Just

2407
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:55,840
Speaker 1: go back to our off season episode where I embodied

2408
02:03:55,960 --> 02:04:00,920
Speaker 1: Urban Buyer for an episode with some foresight of the

2409
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:06,160
Speaker 1: big head that would maybe in fairness on on our

2410
02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 1: most recent show before this controversy, also said you were

2411
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:10,720
Speaker 1: starting to come around on Urban Meyers. It was I

2412
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 1: was starting to say more like I was feeling bad

2413
02:04:13,360 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 1: for him. But now I don't feel it's bad man.

2414
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:18,640
Speaker 1: He just seems sad and it shouldn't seem like he

2415
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:20,320
Speaker 1: should be there. You know, we're hoping to get Mark

2416
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:23,960
Speaker 1: Sessler back on the other side after London. If you're tracking,

2417
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 1: go get my lunch dot org to really fascinating potential

2418
02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:32,200
Speaker 1: uh sequences going on here. We have u Mark has

2419
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 1: a coach, will resigned mid season. It's in play. That

2420
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:38,960
Speaker 1: is so absolutely if this if the if I forgot

2421
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:41,200
Speaker 1: about that. If the Jags are you know one in

2422
02:04:41,280 --> 02:04:44,320
Speaker 1: ten or oh and seven, and you know there's some

2423
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:48,320
Speaker 1: type of you know, behind the scenes fall out between

2424
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 1: the coach and the owner and all that, that's absolutely

2425
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:56,440
Speaker 1: in play. Also, Mark has a cheerleader will become a

2426
02:04:56,600 --> 02:04:59,480
Speaker 1: top story in the league, but now in class success

2427
02:04:59,560 --> 02:05:01,600
Speaker 1: or fashion. And I went back and looked at this

2428
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:08,400
Speaker 1: the way Greg studies Erica's locks. No, it's it's weird.

2429
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing going on. Um uh, he did

2430
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:14,160
Speaker 1: say NFL cheerleader. Mark always puts that one extra thing

2431
02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:17,280
Speaker 1: that he can't put in. But if by any stretch,

2432
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:22,160
Speaker 1: that blonde was an NFL cheerleader, we have this makes

2433
02:05:22,160 --> 02:05:26,840
Speaker 1: the Jets Brown's lock, you know, look like nothing. Yeah,

2434
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for it. I hope she was cheer If

2435
02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:34,920
Speaker 1: the blonde at the bar was an NFL cheerleader at

2436
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:41,120
Speaker 1: some point and Urban resigns and she becomes a big story,

2437
02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:45,000
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. All Right,

2438
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:47,280
Speaker 1: we got some great stuff here, you guys. Yeah, what

2439
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 1: time is it? Time to time? All right, thank you

2440
02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:54,960
Speaker 1: everybody for listening. This is a supersized edition of the

2441
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Speaker 1: preview show two Hours We did It, We finally did it.

2442
02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:01,520
Speaker 1: Two hour episod. Do we want to break this into

2443
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:04,960
Speaker 1: two parts? All right, Well, you guys can break into

2444
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 1: two parts. Take listen to the first hour, take a break,

2445
02:06:08,680 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 1: go grab a pint, maybe listen to the of split

2446
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:17,600
Speaker 1: ends that Colleen and I dropped yesterday, a little palate cleanser,

2447
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:20,400
Speaker 1: and then come back and finish this that's nice. That's

2448
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 1: a great idea. Split ends with Colleen wolf and Erica Tampos,

2449
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 1: or maybe Erica Tampose and Colleen Wolfe. How does it?

2450
02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:31,040
Speaker 1: How's it in? How's it in? The Colleen calling? Its

2451
02:06:31,120 --> 02:06:33,520
Speaker 1: first billing for sure, but I got first billing on

2452
02:06:33,560 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 1: the car service today. You did so good work, all right,

2453
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 1: So we're happy to be here in London. We're excited. Uh.

2454
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 1: We have our live show, two live shows on Thursday night,

2455
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:48,320
Speaker 1: so if you're in the area, come join us and

2456
02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:51,600
Speaker 1: then you will see us maybe out and about in London.

2457
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:53,360
Speaker 1: If you're around here, we'll be checking out some of

2458
02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:56,680
Speaker 1: the local establishments of course, and some of the quote

2459
02:06:56,760 --> 02:07:00,320
Speaker 1: unquote official team bars uh for the Falcons and Jets,

2460
02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 1: and then on Sunday we will be at the Big

2461
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:06,800
Speaker 1: Top for Jets Falcons and check us out on sky Sports.

2462
02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:09,160
Speaker 1: If you're here in the UK and at home, we'll

2463
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:12,200
Speaker 1: be back then on a plane Monday and hopefully with

2464
02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:16,160
Speaker 1: Mark Sesler with us as well. So exciting times for us.

2465
02:07:16,160 --> 02:07:20,040
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening and understanding. Uh, you know, the

2466
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:23,840
Speaker 1: bloat sometimes just part of the process, but we're doing

2467
02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:26,280
Speaker 1: our best. Thank you for everybody for listening uh Dan

2468
02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 1: Hans is signing off for Ricky Hollywood Neil and that

2469
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: was a good job by you, Greg. Really straighten things

2470
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:36,160
Speaker 1: out with Neil once and for all and the old

2471
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Speaker 1: boss until Sunday for Thursday night, Come join us Heed

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Speaker 1: the Call to