Speaker 1: Yes, sir baby, it's mister on the Radar Radio.
Speaker 2: Mister step and step out, don't get stept on gay
Speaker 2: p Checking in with my brother Bootleg keV makes you
Speaker 2: tapping with my boy.
Speaker 1: He's showing love, he's holding it down. You already know
Speaker 1: what it is.
Speaker 3: It's not the plan Gooleg keV Podcast special guests in
Speaker 3: here on the Radar zonn Game.
Speaker 1: Yes, my god, pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: First of all, nice, yeah, nice to finally get up
Speaker 1: with you. Man. I was telling you we met real
Speaker 1: quick at the BT Media House this weekend.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna give your flowers because the No Jumper
Speaker 2: interview that you had did with Adam like a long
Speaker 2: time ago, well it.
Speaker 1: Was like a year ago, year and a half, like
Speaker 1: a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2: I really like watched and dissected that interview so much
Speaker 2: because a lot of the stuff that you were going
Speaker 2: through with this podcast is like I felt like I
Speaker 2: was also going through at the Toms with On the Radar,
Speaker 2: you know, being affiliated with a radio station, but your
Speaker 2: podcast not entirely being affiliated with the station, and you know,
Speaker 2: just having that like synergy and and a lot of
Speaker 2: the things you said and that like kind of really
Speaker 2: help me and kind of like my thought process of like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is how I should move with on the radar
Speaker 2: going forward to So I want to thank you for that.
Speaker 3: All good man. So for people who don't know, so
Speaker 3: your roots are in radio, Yes, my rooturn radio.
Speaker 2: I started off at a Saint John's in Queens with
Speaker 2: along with Nyla who's also on Power. Angie Martinez came
Speaker 2: to the radio station for her book tour. Me and
Speaker 2: her both interviewed her and then the rest is like
Speaker 2: pretty much history, and he picked it.
Speaker 3: I took a liking to you guys, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And you took a liking to us. She literally just
Speaker 2: picked us up out of the radio station and and
Speaker 2: then brought us to Power Ont five. And then I
Speaker 2: was an intern at Power Wintal five for the rest
Speaker 2: of my college career until like pretty much right before
Speaker 2: I graduated, and then I took a full time position
Speaker 2: as like the I ran all their social media. So
Speaker 2: I took a full time position before I graduated to
Speaker 2: stay in the building. She was a social guy. I
Speaker 2: was association. Yeah, I was a social guy at the
Speaker 2: station before anything. So I rand the social media up
Speaker 2: until last August when I when I left, because you know,
Speaker 2: she was doing everything was going on, was doing.
Speaker 3: And then you were doing weren't you doing like a
Speaker 3: something with Charlamagne at Marvel? Yeah podcast. Yeah, we had
Speaker 3: a few episodes. You guys didn't do too many episodes.
Speaker 1: We did like seventeen. We like we did like yeah,
Speaker 1: we did like seventeen.
Speaker 2: It was called Comic Kings, and it was just cause
Speaker 2: that like had spawned out of when I was an intern.
Speaker 2: Charlamage and I would just talk about like the different
Speaker 2: comic book movies that we were watching. So like I
Speaker 2: think I remember like one conversation me and him had
Speaker 2: it was like Logan had came out, and uh, we
Speaker 2: were just having a debate about the movie. And then
Speaker 2: somebody at the say she's like, y'all should do a
Speaker 2: podcast together. So, like, you know, on my time off
Speaker 2: and his time off, you know, after Breakfast Club, we
Speaker 2: would just shoot it. And then the pandemic came and
Speaker 2: then he got a show and then everything just kind
Speaker 2: of got super busy. But honestly, like that was such
Speaker 2: a great opportunity. And when we still see each other,
Speaker 2: like we talk about like the nerd ship, like we
Speaker 2: love that.
Speaker 3: What did you think of Flash? I didn't get to
Speaker 3: see it yet.
Speaker 1: Because I I've been on we you know, we've been
Speaker 1: on the on the Radar tour.
Speaker 3: It's like super mid Yeah, I keep hearing. I'm like,
Speaker 3: how Michael Keatons did it? What's what? How they fucked
Speaker 3: that up?
Speaker 2: Like like how do you bring back like everybody, well
Speaker 2: most people favorite Batman, right, and then you include Supergirl
Speaker 2: and then somehow you still mess it up like this.
Speaker 3: This guy who plays Flash did so many so much
Speaker 3: wow ship, and they kept him in the movie. So
Speaker 3: I'm like they had to have kept him in there
Speaker 3: because it has to be Fire. I was thinking they
Speaker 3: will scrap it after this guy was like breaking into
Speaker 3: people's houses and falling asleep on the couch and doing
Speaker 3: all kinds of weird ship the actor or like like
Speaker 3: fighting people and whole guy fucking wild guy for sure.
Speaker 2: You ever seen the video of him in Hawaii where
Speaker 2: it's like you know what want to talk about?
Speaker 3: Was like his face is a great I think he's uh.
Speaker 3: They slashed them.
Speaker 2: They yeah, they they sorry gotta beat my apologically correct.
Speaker 3: I'd be correct.
Speaker 2: But when they had when their uh, their mugshot was
Speaker 2: on the TV. Yes, and then it pans over and
Speaker 2: he's just like sipping a drink in like a nice
Speaker 2: in like a nice suit, talking to three older women.
Speaker 1: It's just like wild Boy Man wold Boy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't get to see it. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: watch it, uh when I go back to New York.
Speaker 2: But I did see Spider Verse, and Spider Verse was phenomenal, amazing.
Speaker 3: Do you think do you think the Spider Verse two
Speaker 3: movies are better because there's a lot of people saying
Speaker 3: that they're the best Spider Man's period. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: You think so, I think so.
Speaker 2: I just think it's just I don't know, because I
Speaker 2: remember when the animated movies first came out, I was
Speaker 2: like I don't want this, Like like when they announced it,
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want Miles. I like, I
Speaker 2: want to see Miles, you know an actor. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: he's Puerto Rican. I'm Puerto Rican, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, Okay, this is dope because you know
Speaker 2: we're gonna get like we're getting a first of all
Speaker 2: Afro Latino representation on the big screen. He's from Brooklyn,
Speaker 2: My family's from Brooklyn, Like it just kind of felt like, Okay,
Speaker 2: this is dope. But then like when it actually came out,
Speaker 2: like into the Spider Verse, became like one of my
Speaker 2: favorite superhero movies of all time. And I think the
Speaker 2: two of them alone are really the best Spider Man
Speaker 2: movies ever created. And it's weird because it's animated, so
Speaker 2: you wouldn't no Meal think that, But I like, I like.
Speaker 1: The new one way better than I like like the
Speaker 1: Tom Holland once. For sure.
Speaker 3: I think I agree with you man the time. You
Speaker 3: know what the one is that last time Holland won,
Speaker 3: when it's just got that one moment where all the
Speaker 3: Spider Man come together and you're just like, ah, it's
Speaker 3: like this is crazy.
Speaker 1: But have you rewatched it, like after the fact.
Speaker 3: It's not as great when you rewatch it, for sure.
Speaker 3: You're right, Like it's like it's just like one of
Speaker 3: those in theater moments that you remember, almost like an endgame,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's but yeah,
Speaker 3: the Spider for shit is lit. So look, let's get
Speaker 3: to you obviously built this platform. Yeah, was on the
Speaker 3: radar something that you had always kind of like because
Speaker 3: I think early on I was seeing you were doing
Speaker 3: stuff during the pandemic on like zoom YEP and what
Speaker 3: everybody was doing, right, we all had to do that.
Speaker 3: So when did you initially would you launch on the
Speaker 3: Radar during the pandemic or was it prior to the pandemic? Like,
Speaker 3: give me the kind of the history.
Speaker 2: Well, like on the Radar started in twenty eighteen, so
Speaker 2: like I originally had the idea because for me, like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm twenty six, so I was twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: I was like I was like twenty one, twenty twoish,
Speaker 2: and my biggest thing for me back then was like
Speaker 2: I you know, I was a young kid, and I
Speaker 2: was listening to like, you know, the little Uzi Versy
Speaker 2: Yatis and the whatnot, and I would see them go
Speaker 2: on different platforms, and I just felt like they weren't
Speaker 2: really under stood by you know. You think about like
Speaker 2: the infamous Joe Budden moment with him and YACHTI, and
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 3: Even like the ebro one where they were like trying
Speaker 3: to get him a rap over some premo shit.
Speaker 2: Right, And I don't necessarily blame them for those moments,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because you know, they just
Speaker 2: didn't understand their generation, right, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: they're younger kids, right, So I felt like at that time,
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, like I don't really see them
Speaker 2: being represented properly in a media space. And I didn't
Speaker 2: really see anybody and my age really being able to
Speaker 2: be in this media space and also kind of be
Speaker 2: that kind of that like that person that's able to
Speaker 2: grab them and help them, you know, be presented properly
Speaker 2: the way that like, you know, you think of like
Speaker 2: an Angree Martinez in the nineties with with with everybody
Speaker 2: from New York, or you think of or bless you,
Speaker 2: or you think of whom I Who am I thinking
Speaker 2: of Columbia Radio Station. I don't know why I'm blanking
Speaker 2: right now stretching Bobido right like or how stretching Barbido
Speaker 2: was there to help bring.
Speaker 3: Up Biggie Wu Tang.
Speaker 1: They had like some of.
Speaker 2: Their first you think about those, and like, I wanted
Speaker 2: to do something like that for this generation. So I
Speaker 2: came up with the idea back in like the summer
Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen, right after I graduated college.
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of.
Speaker 3: Presumed were you already at power?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: Already full time on the digital side of things. I
Speaker 2: was part of the Andrew Martinez Show. I helped that
Speaker 2: with Breakfast Club. So I did a little bit of everything,
Speaker 2: and when it came to like creating this space, I
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I wanted it to be like
Speaker 2: on the radio station, but they were like, you know
Speaker 2: what's build it on your own, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like kind of started getting going. They had a room
Speaker 2: there that I could use. It was the same room
Speaker 2: that Charlotte used to film Brilliant Idiots in. So I
Speaker 2: was just filming like one interview a day or like
Speaker 2: one interview a week, something like that, and it was
Speaker 2: just I was finding anybody and anybody and everybody I
Speaker 2: can interview, just trying to start building my connection. So
Speaker 2: I was doing that for a while and then I
Speaker 2: started making more younger friends in the industry, and that's
Speaker 2: how I ended up getting up some bigger artists, started
Speaker 2: getting a little more recognition in New York, and then
Speaker 2: the pandemic came, and like right before the pandemic, I
Speaker 2: did this interview with Bankroll Freddie and like that was
Speaker 2: kind of like my biggest interview at the time. It
Speaker 2: had like I think I had like twenty thousand views
Speaker 2: like in like a week or whatever, which was like
Speaker 2: a lot for me at the time, right, And I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, cool, I have all this traction.
Speaker 1: But now like everything is shutting down dead right.
Speaker 2: So I was like in a space where it was
Speaker 2: weird because I also had another show at the time
Speaker 2: I did with Power called Enter Player Too, which was
Speaker 2: like a video game show, so I would play like
Speaker 2: Mortal Kombat two K with like some artists, like I
Speaker 2: had Chef Gs, Sleepy Hollow on this show too, which
Speaker 2: was like one of their most talkative interviews, which was
Speaker 2: really dope at the time. So Pandemic came, I'm like
Speaker 2: and I was like, damn, what do I do now?
Speaker 2: Like I really don't know what to do. The Zoom
Speaker 2: interviews came around, and then like I kind of got
Speaker 2: out of this like you know, depressive state that I
Speaker 2: was in, not knowing where to go with my show,
Speaker 2: just having to do the social media stuff every single day,
Speaker 2: which was like it was fine, but it's like it's
Speaker 2: not what I love to do. And I just started
Speaker 2: doing like two to three Zoom interviews like every day,
Speaker 2: Like I was just like, you know what, anybody again,
Speaker 2: anybody and everybody who I can connect with in any
Speaker 2: place in the world.
Speaker 1: I'm ana do I'm gonna figure it out.
Speaker 2: So I was doing interviews with with people like some
Speaker 2: afrobeat artists, like I did Stoneboy very early on in
Speaker 2: my career, and then I was doing like people from
Speaker 2: like the Carolina's Florida, like literally anybody that I could
Speaker 2: do a zoom interview with. And then it kind of
Speaker 2: came to a point where it was like we had
Speaker 2: I figured out this rhythm with the content. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I think I know what I'm doing now. And we started,
Speaker 2: you know, getting out of the pandemic, and I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I want to do live interview So I
Speaker 2: started doing those again, and I came up with I
Speaker 2: had always had this idea for freestyles on the show,
Speaker 2: and I had done them kind of ghetto before, Like
Speaker 2: I would have my laptop literally sitting right here, plug
Speaker 2: the headphones into the laptop, and then I would put
Speaker 2: the volume all the way up, let them wrap, and
Speaker 2: then in post production, I would try to hear where
Speaker 2: the beat started and I would try to match it up.
Speaker 3: That's fucking crazy, super.
Speaker 2: Ghetto, super ghetto, right, but it worked, It worked, It worked.
Speaker 2: I only had like one or two that I couldn't
Speaker 2: put out because of that. So we had that done
Speaker 2: and then I found this spot.
Speaker 3: Well well, because you guys had freestyles where they weren't
Speaker 3: wearing headphones sometimes, right, Am I tripping?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: We always have Okay, maybe I'm tripping. I've saw somebody
Speaker 3: freestyling there was no headphones on, and I was like, Amaja, no,
Speaker 3: somebody somebody ship there was. I was like, what is
Speaker 3: going on here? They don't have headphones on? Ware the
Speaker 3: hearing the beat?
Speaker 2: Actually, okay, there was one. There was one we do.
Speaker 2: We had like some ciphers, like we did a Christmas cipher.
Speaker 2: We called it the Christmas and Harlem.
Speaker 3: Site for I remember seeing that you guys had like
Speaker 3: a fucking seventy eight people wrap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had like sixteen people rapping. That was That
Speaker 2: was a really dope moment too. But that we had
Speaker 2: like a speaker outside and they could hear it. Same
Speaker 2: with the Ladies Night that we just did in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: That one had a we had a h an external
Speaker 2: speaker that they could hear the beat played off of and.
Speaker 3: Would just hand yeah.
Speaker 2: My producer Rob is like a magician with that. I
Speaker 2: don't even know how he does it, but he finesses it.
Speaker 2: But we started doing the freestyles like kind of shortly after,
Speaker 2: like I kind of caught the wave of the drill scene,
Speaker 2: like I had caught you know, k Flogg be Love
Speaker 2: and Dougie b I did their first interview together. I
Speaker 2: did Dusty Locaine Busy Banks around that time, and then
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I got this motion doing
Speaker 2: these interviews.
Speaker 3: What else Bobby fitsher? Guys?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bobby, Bobby fitted. Shout out Bobby Man, shout out Bro.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So then like I found this spot called
Speaker 2: HMD Studios out in Brooklyn, which is, you know, sadly
Speaker 2: closing its doors really soon, but that's kind of where
Speaker 2: we started doing the freestyles. And I just like, I
Speaker 2: have my producer, Rob, who I mentioned at the time,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, Bro, we're doing all these interviews with
Speaker 2: like these dope up and coming artists.
Speaker 1: I'm like, can we do freestyles here?
Speaker 2: And he called over the owners to the studio and
Speaker 2: who are also friends of mine.
Speaker 1: He's like, is this possible? And they're like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is possible.
Speaker 2: So we started off just kind of like doing again
Speaker 2: once again, Like anybody who wanted to come rap, just
Speaker 2: bring him to come rap. And one of the first
Speaker 2: people who I had come wrap on on the freestyles
Speaker 2: and that studio was Lola Brook because ME and Lola
Speaker 2: had done interviews before, so we had this relationship. And
Speaker 2: then kind of from there we just kind of caught
Speaker 2: this wave. We caught the drill wave in New York
Speaker 2: and then I.
Speaker 3: Fyle Ice Spice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ice Spice. This ship was.
Speaker 2: Again, Hey man, look if I have the only Ice
Speaker 2: Spice free, if I have the only Ice Spice freestyle ever,
Speaker 2: I'll be happy.
Speaker 1: I'll be happy.
Speaker 2: But like you know, we caught a lot of really dope,
Speaker 2: incredible artists early on, and I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: that's kind of where I wanted to be at in
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. It took a bit of time, but like
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like a lot of young people
Speaker 2: in this industry don't always realize how long things takeing
Speaker 2: to you guys.
Speaker 3: So when we started doing freestyles for the podcast, we
Speaker 3: kind of started the same way, I think because we
Speaker 3: were thinking of the monetization route. So I would have
Speaker 3: my producer, Tony Chak just give me a beat that
Speaker 3: was original that wouldn't get flagged. So a lot of
Speaker 3: your guys, beats are from producers that it's not like
Speaker 3: they're freestyling over like Poundtown, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like there's original instrument instrumentals right some cases.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I kind of like to
Speaker 2: give the artists the free range to do what they
Speaker 2: what they want.
Speaker 1: We do have a lot of we have in house producers.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: My boy Fritz cooks up a lot of the beats.
Speaker 2: Him man gave us the beat for the ladies nice
Speaker 2: I first, so that was really dope.
Speaker 1: But I try to give them the free range.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I got a great partnership or create on the monetization
Speaker 2: side of things, so they helped me kind of soar
Speaker 2: through all those things with the beats and kind of
Speaker 2: like getting copyrights on.
Speaker 3: You guys, all the freestyles on like Spotify and all
Speaker 3: that shit.
Speaker 1: Not all of them, but we have a lot, Like
Speaker 1: we put out.
Speaker 2: Like what one hundred and fifteen already this year, one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen already this year, So we have like
Speaker 2: entire we have a pretty big catalog that we just
Speaker 2: dropped this year. Alone, but we try to encourage artists now,
Speaker 2: especially the up and coming ones. It's like, look, if
Speaker 2: you're coming on the show, you might as well do
Speaker 2: an original beat so we can put you in our
Speaker 2: ecosystem on streaming, and then you get on the radar fans,
Speaker 2: We get your fans, and then we kind of are
Speaker 2: able to marry that together.
Speaker 3: So for you, like, uh, you say, how were you
Speaker 3: with Angie? Like every day like money through Friday?
Speaker 1: Yeah, every day for many years?
Speaker 3: What was the Because Angie's obviously I've met her a
Speaker 3: few times and she always is so fucking like you
Speaker 3: know I was when before I met her, I was
Speaker 3: just assumed she had this or around it. But she's
Speaker 3: so nice, like, yeah, she's like super super, super super sweetheart.
Speaker 3: What was for you being around the voice in New York?
Speaker 3: Would you learn? Man? Would you take away the one thing?
Speaker 3: I'm sure you learned a million things, but you know,
Speaker 3: I'm sure is there one or two things that you
Speaker 3: kind of apply to what you're doing right now?
Speaker 2: I feel like the one thing that I always tell
Speaker 2: people I took away from being around Angie was like
Speaker 2: how important relationships are in this industry?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: And I learned this with Angie when I was working
Speaker 2: her digital side, like, you know, like if I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of it, like let's say, like I worked
Speaker 2: a six ' nine interview for an example, right, Like
Speaker 2: I would think about, like I thought from a young
Speaker 2: person's perspective, I'm like, what headline can we put this
Speaker 2: on YouTube that will get the most clicks? And then
Speaker 2: Angie would always reiterate to me, it's not about always
Speaker 2: what's going to get you the most clicks, but like
Speaker 2: or like what can what's going to be messier?
Speaker 1: What was this?
Speaker 2: But she's like, you got to remember that, like building
Speaker 2: relationships over time is important.
Speaker 1: She's like, you know, you don't want to just go
Speaker 1: right for.
Speaker 2: The clickbait stuff and then you burn a bridge with somebody, right,
Speaker 2: And as I got older, I started realizing how important
Speaker 2: that is because a lot of the you know media
Speaker 2: now oftentimes we you know, people want to go right
Speaker 2: for clickbaity headlines this and that, but then it doesn't
Speaker 2: you don't you know, those same you know, YouTube pages
Speaker 2: or whatever, like they don't think about like the long
Speaker 2: term implications of that. You know, you kind of burn
Speaker 2: bridges or you don't you burn relationships and I just
Speaker 2: you know, I remember I was at a party I
Speaker 2: think for it was like Angie and Angeliauee's like day off,
Speaker 2: I think that's what they called it.
Speaker 1: And it was like in the winter time.
Speaker 2: It was around their birthdays, and I remember just seeing
Speaker 2: like everybody in the room with them, Like I saw
Speaker 2: like Joe and a bunch of other like people who've
Speaker 2: just been around them for X amount of years, And
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, you think about the relationships that
Speaker 2: they built over these periods of time and how they
Speaker 2: wouldn't be around now if they had, you know, had
Speaker 2: like that clickbait mentality, like oh, I got to ask
Speaker 2: them some crazy shit just to get you know, one
Speaker 2: hundred kviews, because sometimes those one hundred kviews ain't worth
Speaker 2: the relationship being broken, you know. I'd rather I tell
Speaker 2: ars all the time, like I'd rather mess with out
Speaker 2: for like five to ten years and us do this
Speaker 2: a million times and me just get one hundred k
Speaker 2: views off of you one time, and then now we
Speaker 2: beef and we don't like each other no more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had that. I just went on back on
Speaker 3: fig Man and fucking whoever t Rose guy is fucking
Speaker 3: mislabeled some clip and I had to hit him like, bro,
Speaker 3: this this wasn't said like He's like, bro, my bad,
Speaker 3: let me fix it. But I just yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I think, you know, there's definitely for you. I feel
Speaker 3: like you don't do messy ship, which is important, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we try not to do messy shit over here.
Speaker 3: I mean we just interviewed Krishawan Rock and Blue Face
Speaker 3: or not Krishan Rock.
Speaker 2: Blue Face and his pearms. Yeah, I was talking that
Speaker 2: before I came here.
Speaker 3: That was messy for sure.
Speaker 1: That was definitely.
Speaker 2: But that's not you trying to be messy, like you're
Speaker 2: just doing the interview. Like it's like you're not the
Speaker 2: messy one there in this case. You're just asking questions
Speaker 2: that people want to know for sure, and it's not
Speaker 2: like it's not like you're not perfectly like I mean,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, like it's interesting conversation,
Speaker 2: like right, we're the first interview to do both of
Speaker 2: them together, and like people are interested in them.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: No matter how many times I mute, I mute Blue
Speaker 2: Face's name from my timeline, somehow I always popped heavy Chris,
Speaker 2: I always pop back.
Speaker 3: Up it will always pop up. Man, So what do
Speaker 3: you kind of remember, like what video for you kind
Speaker 3: of made you realize like, oh there's something here that
Speaker 3: like I can leave. I was about say ninety seven
Speaker 3: damn sorry, sorry, sorry to leave Power one oh five
Speaker 3: and kind of just go full time with your own shit.
Speaker 2: Well I'm still at Power. I still do my radio
Speaker 2: shows at Power, but like leaving my I'm.
Speaker 3: Talking about your full time Yeah, the full time doing
Speaker 3: the social media director thing. Yeah, the show's on the
Speaker 3: air right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shows on Friday nights as well too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I you know, I think it was really kind of
Speaker 2: when the motion started going on, when we caught the
Speaker 2: second wave of drill music but like kflocking them and
Speaker 2: the Bronx, Like that's when I was like, okay, there's
Speaker 2: something here that we can really tap into. And then
Speaker 2: it was just kind of like over time, like the
Speaker 2: reason why I had to leave that position. It was
Speaker 2: just like, you know, I caught myself at times being
Speaker 2: like I like, I don't care about this as much
Speaker 2: as I care about on the radar, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Like I I wasn't in like the most
Speaker 2: like financially stable place where I was like okay, like
Speaker 2: I could do on the radar full time, but like
Speaker 2: it was getting to the point where my brain couldn't
Speaker 2: handle doing this other job and doing on the radar.
Speaker 1: And it kind of like felt like to the point
Speaker 1: where it's like, not that.
Speaker 2: I'm wasting It didn't feel like I was wasting my
Speaker 2: time doing that position, but it felt like that energy
Speaker 2: that I'm doing at that the energy I was given
Speaker 2: that job. If I put it into on the radar,
Speaker 2: I could go, you know, And and you know, everybody
Speaker 2: at Power is very supportive of that decision, like they're like, look, man,
Speaker 2: like you have something special. You know, I think you should.
Speaker 2: You should, you know, take the chance on it. And
Speaker 2: then it was just like, you know, we went with it,
Speaker 2: and you know, we caught that drill wave early. We
Speaker 2: caught like you know, like you said, the ice spices,
Speaker 2: the d things, you had the four to one guy,
Speaker 2: you had jenn and you had Jennen coll up here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that freestyle for y'all, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: Sixteen M yeah, sixteen M.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. Yeah. But you know, isn't that on DP.
Speaker 2: That one isn't They kind of they turned two of
Speaker 2: those records. I think into songs, but not every piece
Speaker 2: of that was ever released on streaming. But that's also
Speaker 2: something we learned early on too, that you know that
Speaker 2: we all kind of we don't regret it now, but
Speaker 2: like now when you look back at it in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, like it's like damn, Like if we kind
Speaker 2: of had our shit to get the way that we
Speaker 2: have now with streaming services, that could have just gone.
Speaker 2: Same with Ice Spice, Like we probably could have gotten
Speaker 2: Ice Spic's freestyle on streaming if this was, you know,
Speaker 2: a year and a half ago before she blew up.
Speaker 1: But I think that's all part of the learning process.
Speaker 2: You know. I wish I could have had these on streaming.
Speaker 2: I wish I could have had these records under my name, But.
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Speaker 3: The drill Ship is so like it feels like from
Speaker 3: like a guy who lives in LA because I got
Speaker 3: out there, we hung out with we hung out with Dusty,
Speaker 3: we hung out with who else a bunch of those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but obviously the rep is is a very violent, divisive
Speaker 3: genre of music. Right do you have you ever got
Speaker 3: wrapped up in any of the fucking just because I'm
Speaker 3: sure you gotta kind of play friends with everybody, right
Speaker 3: of course, because and do you think it's a lot
Speaker 3: a lot of it's overstated?
Speaker 1: Well I got a few opinions on that.
Speaker 2: Well, Like the one thing I got caught up in
Speaker 2: was like when you know, there was like a point
Speaker 2: where I was like, all right, like y'all doing too
Speaker 2: much like this one on my show, Like I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to do all this right, So I had like
Speaker 2: made a statement where.
Speaker 1: That I caught a lot of flak for from people
Speaker 1: this is like a year ago. But I was like, look,
Speaker 1: I think I remember that you said, like no more
Speaker 1: think of anybody, no more name dropping.
Speaker 2: And if you do name drop, it's going to get
Speaker 2: xed out, right because I'm not trying to deal with
Speaker 2: an add to that, right, I don't. I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to add to that. I'm not trying to politic with that.
Speaker 2: And but I still want to support you out because
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 3: In a lot of them.
Speaker 1: You feel me, And I caught a lot of flag
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 2: But over time, like you know, like anything, you just
Speaker 2: ride out the wave and it's cool. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like nobody really is like is like upset
Speaker 2: by that anymore. They're like, oh, why can't I do
Speaker 2: the I'm like, I'm not going to let you use
Speaker 2: my platform as a way to like go at you, right,
Speaker 2: there's other platforms that you could go do that on.
Speaker 1: Go do that on that platform.
Speaker 2: This is like, you know, if you want to create
Speaker 2: like the corner like the perfect cornerstone hip hop platform,
Speaker 2: Like I don't want it to be known for that.
Speaker 2: So like that part, but I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: when it comes to like the music itself is like
Speaker 2: these kids like this is what they really live in,
Speaker 2: and I feel like me, Like I think Rob Markman
Speaker 2: had also said on like Rotation Round Taylor show that
Speaker 2: I do on Amazon, he was like, look, man, he's like,
Speaker 2: if you really listen into a lot of like you know,
Speaker 2: gangster rap lyrics from like nineties, early two thousands, like
Speaker 2: if you listen to like the locks, like they they
Speaker 2: say in some of the same shit that these kids
Speaker 2: are saying, they just saying, it differ like definitely now
Speaker 2: it's more like I feel like it's more detailed, for sure,
Speaker 2: but also it's not that far from what we've already
Speaker 2: gotten in the past. You feel me and again like
Speaker 2: these kids like this is their real life situations and
Speaker 2: that's and you know.
Speaker 3: It just feels more like you said, not only the
Speaker 3: detailed aspect of it, but we also like back then
Speaker 3: we didn't have social media, so like motherfuckers were going
Speaker 3: live on people's blocks, and like it just feels like
Speaker 3: now it's like, man, these guys are really doing some
Speaker 3: shit on the internet, then going and rapping about it
Speaker 3: and then getting arrested for it and then getting sense like.
Speaker 2: No, it's definitely dumb, Like like it's definitely dumb how
Speaker 2: they put everything on the Internet. But I'll be thinking about,
Speaker 2: like if the internet was around back then, like.
Speaker 3: It it'd be a wild place because then you had
Speaker 3: hip hop police back then, and I'm sure there's hip
Speaker 3: hop police now, but back then it was like there
Speaker 3: was like old task force, Like.
Speaker 2: Right, I was like, I was even just watching this
Speaker 2: video on the way here was like fifty cent.
Speaker 1: I forgot out what.
Speaker 2: BET Awards it was, but it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: they're like fifty was a wild boy, like he didn't
Speaker 2: wrap the whole first verse of his song, walked around
Speaker 2: the arena waiting to see if if any of his
Speaker 2: like Ops or whoever would do something, and like you know,
Speaker 2: and they were like and what was the caps was like, oh,
Speaker 2: the BT Wars need to start bringing rappers back to
Speaker 2: the BT Awards who be with each other, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I was like, first of all, terrible idea, terrible idea.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like, but I think
Speaker 2: about I'm like, Okay, that was fifty back then now
Speaker 2: and that's without the Internet.
Speaker 1: So imagine if like it's.
Speaker 3: Been all over Academics and Shade Room and.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's like it's not that much.
Speaker 2: You know when people criticize or you know, the last
Speaker 2: generation criticizes this generation for what they do. I think
Speaker 2: it's just like you got to look in the mirror
Speaker 2: and be like, look, if social media was around when
Speaker 2: you guys were outside doing what ch'all was doing, is like,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't really be that different.
Speaker 1: We're all human at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Like, I wouldn't be surprised if back then you would
Speaker 2: see like somebody on ag love talk, Oh.
Speaker 3: Like oh no no, if the Internet was not around.
Speaker 3: So it's like it's different, bro. It's like, shit, when
Speaker 3: fifty first came out, I'm not even sure my Space
Speaker 3: was popping like that. Definitely not definitely not, but it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's different, different world everything, like everything is online. And
Speaker 3: then also the pressure of like having it not look
Speaker 3: like a bitch because you're on the Internet comes into
Speaker 3: people reacting. Maybe if they wouldn't have reacted had they
Speaker 3: not realized that the whole world will see how they.
Speaker 1: Would react, you know what I'm saying, right, But I'd
Speaker 1: be telling them too.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, look like sometimes, like what the music
Speaker 2: that ch'n'll make is like you have to remember that
Speaker 2: the music that you make, like it's.
Speaker 1: Not just people.
Speaker 2: And if we're talking strictly from a New York drill perspective,
Speaker 2: it's like it's not even just like the music. People
Speaker 2: in New York aren't just seeing this, like people all
Speaker 2: around the country seeing this, and like that affects your
Speaker 2: money at the end of the day too, because someone
Speaker 2: from you know, you're talking from like a West Coast perspective,
Speaker 2: if you hear them talking crazy dissing X Y and
Speaker 2: Z is like and you're a promoter or you're a
Speaker 2: showbook or whatever your love nation, It's like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I want to book.
Speaker 3: These well, even like the Rolling Loud shit like guys
Speaker 3: was getting like they were getting banned from.
Speaker 2: Right ronk Tu two G's I think Dougie b two
Speaker 2: and like it's like I'm like some of this stuff
Speaker 2: and Ronzuno didn't. I don't know why they did that
Speaker 2: to Ronsruno, But like all this stuff can affect your
Speaker 2: money at the end of day and your longevity.
Speaker 1: So like let's say you have like the big this
Speaker 1: record in the world. Great, but like if how but like.
Speaker 3: Are you worth a liability for me to book you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what at what costs? Like, like it got you
Speaker 2: lit amazing congratulates. I think that that's great for you,
Speaker 2: but like at what cost does at what cost? Does
Speaker 2: it then affect the rest of your money now, because
Speaker 2: now people for the rest of time will be like,
Speaker 2: I don't know because they liability because you know, I
Speaker 2: don't want him coming to LA And then the people
Speaker 2: that they're talking about move to LA too, and then
Speaker 2: now they the people they talking about trying to get
Speaker 2: somebody to come from.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, if you think about the nationally biggest people,
Speaker 3: obviously Pop Smoke, Rest in Peace, Rest and Peace, Pop
Speaker 3: pivoted into and I don't even he didn't even get
Speaker 3: to see the success of his pivots sonically five or four,
Speaker 3: and you know, doing the record with Alicia and like
Speaker 3: not necessarily leaning on that ship. And then even like
Speaker 3: I mean, Ice Spice is wrapping over drill ship, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, she's a pop star.
Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy, It's like really crazy. Yeah, Ice
Speaker 3: Spice is the closest thing that I've ever seen that
Speaker 3: if someone said that industry plans were real, which they're not.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that that.
Speaker 1: I don't beieve that either.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a real thing. But if there was
Speaker 3: like some like internet rap conspiracy that ice Spice was
Speaker 3: an industry plan, I'd be like, I understand why you
Speaker 3: think that, right, because it is just like it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Has she done an interview beside you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, she's like breakfast clever or anything.
Speaker 1: She hasn't done. She did ebro on Apple Will on
Speaker 1: Apple one.
Speaker 3: She hasn't been like like like the traditional Hot ninety seven.
Speaker 2: She did Hot, she didn't she didn't want to have,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't like super And that she doesn't do
Speaker 2: a lot of interviews.
Speaker 1: I noticed that too.
Speaker 3: It's prance smart not to overexpose yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, like you know, you know what you
Speaker 2: were saying about, like the with Pop, Like, first of all,
Speaker 2: like the fact that Pop is still probably the.
Speaker 1: Most streamed artist in New York in terms of younger artists.
Speaker 3: And bro in La this motherfucker non stop every single
Speaker 3: power rotation for like two years straight. I'm talking about
Speaker 3: like what you know about love is still like a
Speaker 3: subpower in La. Yeah, crazy like and it's it's such
Speaker 3: because he didn't get to see, yeah, you know, the
Speaker 3: fruits of his labor one hundred percent. You know, Like
Speaker 3: I feel like the part too of what was the
Speaker 3: EP that he put out was the before he died.
Speaker 1: It was the oh that was the last piece of work,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, before literally like two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then this fucking album drops and it's like
Speaker 3: just hit record after hit record in this like and.
Speaker 2: It's crazy because this is like the album that dropped.
Speaker 2: Probably that was I don't know, I was they did
Speaker 2: some call where they played us a project. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they said it was sixty percent done before
Speaker 2: he passed away or something like that, but like you
Speaker 2: imagine it's like, Okay, what if you actually what if
Speaker 2: it's still around him? He was here to finish these
Speaker 2: records and had the features on it that he wanted,
Speaker 2: you know, not saying that they put all those features
Speaker 2: on there, because.
Speaker 3: I think fifty did a great job of like executive
Speaker 3: producing and same because like, yeah, this because the last
Speaker 3: album was cool, but it was definitely you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: this this was like super unfinished stuff that they just
Speaker 3: pulled together and they so many random features and ship and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of my one of my man's produced one
Speaker 2: of the songs on on on that on that project,
Speaker 2: and then they switched they like switched.
Speaker 3: The beat on him. See like that kind of shit.
Speaker 2: It's like you know, or like they had two songs
Speaker 2: on there, the one with Busy Banks and the one
Speaker 2: with Ross Wish. Those were songs that were finished before
Speaker 2: he passed away. Fish No, No, they let him on,
Speaker 2: but you could tell, like when you listen to the project,
Speaker 2: you can kind of tell what records were there before
Speaker 2: he passed away versus what was kind of like kind
Speaker 2: of Frankenstein together after the fact, and like that sucks
Speaker 2: to me, Like and I heard stories of like his
Speaker 2: friends verses getting taken over from him and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: Like and I don't like shit like that kind of
Speaker 2: like look like he was trying to put his Like
Speaker 2: Pop was always about putting his people.
Speaker 1: Like if you watch all these interviews when especially the
Speaker 1: Angie interview.
Speaker 2: He talked about Chef, he talked about Sleepy, I think
Speaker 2: he talked about Busy and there he talked about Ross
Speaker 2: Wish trying to think well, but like he was always
Speaker 2: about putting like people who he fuck went on, So
Speaker 2: like I think that that's just unfortunate that we got
Speaker 2: to a point where it's like, Okay, now we're just
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna throw this pop verse here. We're gona
Speaker 2: tho this pop verse here, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 2: I know there's one on ne Ego's album. I don't
Speaker 2: know where that came from. Like, I think about things
Speaker 2: like that, and that shit kind of sucks.
Speaker 1: Tiger's got Hella versus, Oh pop versus.
Speaker 3: I think he's got one or two out.
Speaker 1: I'm like Tiger, he got the Sunshine one, the one
Speaker 1: with him, and.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's another one though on my trip
Speaker 3: and now I'm thinking Tiger and him had a record together.
Speaker 1: On West West Coast. Yeah, I liked West Coast.
Speaker 3: That was cool.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like you think about like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if Sunshine was done before Pop passed
Speaker 2: away or not. I'm not gonna I don't know the
Speaker 2: story behind that record, but like if it was Franken's
Speaker 2: signed together, it's.
Speaker 3: Like, damn, Like they did a good job.
Speaker 1: They did a good job of Franken signing that one together,
Speaker 1: but it was kind of sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna ask you, like so this complex
Speaker 3: list comes out right, Okay, uh this is this is
Speaker 3: the headline. No, I'm just curious because like I feel
Speaker 3: like you're very like to like you. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: be honest with you. I feel like you're the premier
Speaker 3: freestyle platform now. I feel like you guys, what you
Speaker 3: guys are doing is more important. Know what the Leakers do?
Speaker 3: Flex is flex, you know, so flex is gonna get
Speaker 3: like yeah, he legend regardless the Conway shit that just
Speaker 3: happened was crazy. Like I mean, I still watch the
Speaker 3: Black Thought one like once a week if.
Speaker 1: Me are obviously Meek Mill and the Tory Lane's ones,
Speaker 1: I always watch.
Speaker 3: But I was gonna say for you, like, you know,
Speaker 3: we do we do freestyles here. We drop like two
Speaker 3: probably one or two a week. It just depends on
Speaker 3: what happens here. But like you guys have really dug
Speaker 3: your heels into the freestyle lane and it's it's been
Speaker 3: dope to see because I feel like like you said,
Speaker 3: like being in New York there is like you can't
Speaker 3: you can't just be anybody and go see flex. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta have a certain
Speaker 3: it's gotta makes sense for him you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: for you, you're giving people platforms that you just believe
Speaker 3: in or that you're like, hey, I think this person's dope.
Speaker 3: I think more people should have eyes on these on
Speaker 3: this person. So do you when you see like a
Speaker 3: list like that come out, do you feel like you
Speaker 3: deserve more acknowledgment when it comes to certain shit like that?
Speaker 3: Or you, I mean, you're still like a relatively new platform,
Speaker 3: but like what your thoughts on that kind of shit?
Speaker 2: I mean obviously, like you know, I'm like, first of all,
Speaker 2: thank you for the for the for the common words,
Speaker 2: and like also kind of just going off what you
Speaker 2: said about giving people a chance, Like the one thing
Speaker 2: I want to say about on the Radar is I like,
Speaker 2: the reason why on the Radar is what it is
Speaker 2: is because my goal for it is to be able
Speaker 2: for you to have a meek mill or a little
Speaker 2: baby on there. But then also, Lil homie from down
Speaker 2: the block, you feel me because I feel like there's
Speaker 2: no place where you marry all those things into one place.
Speaker 2: That's just about the culture, about hip hop, about music
Speaker 2: in general, right, But when I see things like that,
Speaker 2: like of course, like I'm like, man, like you know
Speaker 2: I was bummed out about it, but like I've been
Speaker 2: the underdog for so long in my life and in
Speaker 2: my career that like it doesn't phaze me because I know,
Speaker 2: you know, the numbers are like like I don't like
Speaker 2: to be the person like look at the numbers, but
Speaker 2: the numbers are there. You feel me like we're doing
Speaker 2: things that hasn't really been seen in a long time,
Speaker 2: and hasn't you know, there is no platform since like
Speaker 2: I feel like like a rap city that or like
Speaker 2: one or six in part that's or TRL that's really
Speaker 2: kind of brought like the up and coming and like
Speaker 2: the Who's Hot at the same time, right, the fact
Speaker 2: that I can go on my show and like Bro
Speaker 2: from down the Block was there and as he's walking
Speaker 2: out and Elie Choppa is walking in, like that's fire.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I'm saying, Like nobody's doing something
Speaker 1: like that, or.
Speaker 2: Like Sexy reds walking walking in as like this up
Speaker 2: and coming R and B singer from Jerseys is leaving
Speaker 2: like that's dope. So of course, like I see that
Speaker 2: and I'm like, damn, like this is crazy, Like I
Speaker 2: feel like we deserve the recognition. It was funny because
Speaker 2: when that list came out that same night, I was
Speaker 2: at like this the Veto event at like Legos and
Speaker 2: uh and like then they put the complex posted like
Speaker 2: the up next like list thing.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, hip Hop's next, like whatever.
Speaker 2: I forgot what they called it, but it was just
Speaker 2: like it was just like a social post and it
Speaker 2: was like me, haking from OGM.
Speaker 1: Don't call me white girl.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to Well, there a few other people on
Speaker 2: that list, but I'm like, all right, so I'm a
Speaker 2: social post, you know what I'm saying. But I appreciate
Speaker 2: all the recognition regardless because I know that like it's
Speaker 2: gonna be there right one way or another.
Speaker 3: But also like I just be getting tired of the
Speaker 3: list too. We also, this shit doesn't really matter. It
Speaker 3: doesn't like help. It's like like you said, check the
Speaker 3: check the scoreboard, you know what I'm saying. Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like I had people hitting me like and I genuinely
Speaker 3: just didn't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you feel about that?
Speaker 3: I didn't give a fuck, bro, Like I really didn't
Speaker 3: expect to be on the list. Like we over here
Speaker 3: in LA we are very independent operation. I don't care
Speaker 3: about none of that shit, bro, like they try to
Speaker 3: uh get me to like be angry on some who
Speaker 3: show was on when they asked me about it, t
Speaker 3: rel shit, I just did. I just like I have
Speaker 3: no emotion, man, Like my whole thing towards it is
Speaker 3: like you know, at the end of the day, like
Speaker 3: I'm doing me. If people want to recognize it, it's cool.
Speaker 3: If not, we're gonna be all right. Like yeah, that's
Speaker 3: how I feel Shit's moving.
Speaker 2: Were good because I feel like it's just like you know,
Speaker 2: people love making these lists, right, and also it's.
Speaker 3: A it's also that's why I'm surprised you in because
Speaker 3: I mean list of Complex at East Coast by his place, right,
Speaker 3: So I was really thinking, like, how's the fuck is
Speaker 3: going on over everything? Like you've had more moments than
Speaker 3: a lot of these motherfuckers, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: and you're doing it with the high integrity, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? Yeah, and Complex stirring up bullshit, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Complex showed us, has shown us mad love, Like
Speaker 2: we just had two freestyles on like the top twenty
Speaker 2: five verses of the year so far, and they've done
Speaker 2: like other stuff with me before. So but I didn't
Speaker 2: feel no way because of that, Like I wasn't I
Speaker 2: didn't hit my man's that complex, Like, yo, bro, why
Speaker 2: you ain't put me on I would never do that
Speaker 2: because I don't. I don't think that's a you know,
Speaker 2: that's an integrity thing. Like I would never handle business
Speaker 2: like that or come out my neck at someone like
Speaker 2: that because that's just not how I am. But you know,
Speaker 2: at the end of day, it's like, you know, you
Speaker 2: still are disappointed. You're like, damn, I wish I could
Speaker 2: have been recognized by this. But it's like it's cool
Speaker 2: because I just kind of turned all that fuel into motivation.
Speaker 2: Like whenever they told me, oh, like you know you
Speaker 2: won't be able to have this artist a right, cool,
Speaker 2: I'll see you in a year, right, and like you know,
Speaker 2: then we then they end up coming back around anyway
Speaker 2: because now they're like okay, cool, or like, you know,
Speaker 2: we'll have an artist who comes on the show and
Speaker 2: we'll do an interview. They're like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I want a freestyle, and I'm like, I I'll see you,
Speaker 2: and i'll see you in six months and then six
Speaker 2: months later, yo.
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Speaker 3: it hard to I was gonna say this because you'll
Speaker 3: get freestyles from artists who traditionally don't do freestyles, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: So do they go there knowing they're gonna freestyle because
Speaker 3: a lot of times we'll run into that where like
Speaker 3: somebody will come to LA and they'll have like their
Speaker 3: LA leakers shit ready. Yeah, and obviously the well I'm
Speaker 3: vala leakers ain't a thing anymore, y'all, breaking news. They're
Speaker 3: just incredible thing ready. And uh, you know, like we're
Speaker 3: we're not like our brand isn't freestyle driven. We do freestyles, yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's not like you know, we do both, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I would say we're more known
Speaker 3: for interviews, you know, of course, So like I got
Speaker 3: to hit artists sometimes and be like, hey, I know
Speaker 3: you come to LA, make sure you got the other
Speaker 3: clip ready, you know what I mean, Like save me something,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But but y'all, I feel
Speaker 3: like now if people come to New York like they're
Speaker 3: coming there to do your shit, yeah, I think you know,
Speaker 3: even like because flex is a lot harder to get onto,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, so like do you
Speaker 3: do you guys have those conversations like hey, look just
Speaker 3: just do something, man, if you like it, we'll use it.
Speaker 1: If not we'll scrap it, Like hell yeah, we definitely
Speaker 1: have those commos.
Speaker 2: Like I also give artists like the opportunity like, look,
Speaker 2: if you don't want to do a freestyle, like, let's
Speaker 2: get a performance video out of you.
Speaker 3: Ud. I know y'all do that, like you did the
Speaker 3: Sexy Read performance.
Speaker 2: Exactly yeah, which which one of the funniest things we
Speaker 2: ever shot too. But like Annalie Choppa did a performance
Speaker 2: with his dude Gino. It's two times four times. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry if I say that wrong, Bro, I'm sorry. But
Speaker 2: like he did a performance off the deluxe off of
Speaker 2: Condomwood too, which is totally cool because it still went
Speaker 2: crazy regardless because at the end the day, not a
Speaker 2: lot of people knew that song. So a lot of
Speaker 2: people in the comments like, oh, this is a fire
Speaker 2: freestyles far even though it's people don't know how to
Speaker 2: read too. By the way, it's like it says performance
Speaker 2: at the bottom, but regardless, but I just try to
Speaker 2: get something out of that. I'm like, look, if you
Speaker 2: don't like it, maybe come do a lip sync of
Speaker 2: like a song that you have on the project, like
Speaker 2: like something, let's just do something, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Because I like maximizing content, Like you're there, you're there
Speaker 2: for an hour, it's like a twenty thirty minute interview
Speaker 2: sometimes depending how talkative you are. And then you know,
Speaker 2: then if you do a lip sync, it takes like
Speaker 2: ten minutes not even to get that done. But you know,
Speaker 2: most people already know. Like if but if I had
Speaker 2: a dollar, bro, for like how many freestyles we haven't
Speaker 2: released too or like you know, haven't come out, like
Speaker 2: you know, i'd be rich by now.
Speaker 3: What is? Don't tell me who did it? But what
Speaker 3: was the because we've had some very long freestyle sessions
Speaker 3: where motherfuckers will take like thirty takes. Oh yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: where it's like crazy, like I think there was like
Speaker 3: one time we had someone who was in here for
Speaker 3: like an hour and I literally was like, look, man,
Speaker 3: I got shit to do, so this is your final
Speaker 3: go and they got it. What was the longest you
Speaker 3: had to wait for someone to nail their ship?
Speaker 1: Why are you laughing?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: I hear you in the back. No, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say no name. I'm not gonna don't say the name.
Speaker 3: Don't say that.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know me, I'm not gonna do that, but
Speaker 2: it was actually pretty It was actually within the last
Speaker 2: six months. There was one that we stopped laughing. Yo,
Speaker 2: we were there a month ago, maybe I know I
Speaker 2: was more than a month ago. We were there at
Speaker 2: nine pm.
Speaker 3: When'd you leave? I left it like twelve Jesus she went,
Speaker 3: she went, the gonna laugh still what but like I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say that that's the case. You gotta be like, Yo,
Speaker 3: if we get this right, it's gonna do well for us. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, there's you know that happens a lot though.
Speaker 2: It's like me and me and like look at each
Speaker 2: other and like I like, you know, we both had
Speaker 2: that like look on our FACEO, like we want to
Speaker 2: go home, but like we both like are like very
Speaker 2: well aware that's like, look, if we get this done,
Speaker 2: this shit is gonna go.
Speaker 1: And if they tell us they don't want it out,
Speaker 1: they're never coming back. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We sit spent three hours with your ass.
Speaker 1: Like, Nah, we've had that.
Speaker 2: That's happened a lot too us, Like where artists have
Speaker 2: like come on and then they'll just be like they'll
Speaker 2: do their shit right and like let's say we drop
Speaker 2: it like a month or two later whatever it is right,
Speaker 2: and then they'll be like, oh, I don't want I
Speaker 2: don't like this anymore. And then they're like, I want
Speaker 2: to come redo it. I'm like no, like like yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's like I'm like, if you got it, you
Speaker 2: don't have to wait.
Speaker 3: Like somebody asked to redo an interview after it was
Speaker 3: like a two hour long interview, and yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: like the way it came off in that. Let me
Speaker 3: redo that.
Speaker 1: A two hour long interview is crazy, by the way,
Speaker 1: for them to ask to redo it.
Speaker 3: It's someone that we're very close friends with. Its bold.
Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to tell me after. But
Speaker 2: you let them, you would you let people come back
Speaker 2: after that, you'd be like, nah, don't.
Speaker 1: Come back no more.
Speaker 3: Freddy Gives is one of my best friends.
Speaker 1: Oh it's Freddy Gis.
Speaker 3: We did an interview and he was like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: can we just redo the whole hitter? And I was like, bro,
Speaker 3: did you drop it? I was like I had to
Speaker 3: cut out so much and I get it. He was
Speaker 3: in a weird place, like and he just didn't want
Speaker 3: certain shit in there by the time. No, it wasn't
Speaker 3: the one when we was drunk.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, now do you cut up your interviews a
Speaker 1: lot like that?
Speaker 3: I give a like artist opportunity, like you know, like
Speaker 3: you said, like, I don't want to like make people
Speaker 3: uncomfortable coming over here. So if like there's an artist
Speaker 3: that like comes on the show and they're like, hey,
Speaker 3: I said this and you take that out, I don't care,
Speaker 3: Like I'm not going to be like nah fuck that,
Speaker 3: you know, like the only time that ever happened was
Speaker 3: we had dropped a little Pump interview.
Speaker 1: H and y'all, Chuckley tells me everything I need to
Speaker 1: know about this interview.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, well he tried to like his little
Speaker 3: weeny ass white boy manager. I was like, bro, you
Speaker 3: know where the fuck we at, bro come through if
Speaker 3: you want to talk that crazy shit. Like, So what
Speaker 3: happened was the interview goes up. They didn't like to
Speaker 3: tie because I put.
Speaker 1: Oh, they never liked the time. They never liked the
Speaker 1: time I put.
Speaker 3: I put like little Pump on New Music.
Speaker 2: H J.
Speaker 3: Cole predicting his fall off or no, no, I didn't
Speaker 3: say his fall off his career. If if J Cole
Speaker 3: predicted his career something like, it wasn't even like crazy
Speaker 3: like flavoring right, But they didn't like the fact Jay
Speaker 3: Cole was mentioned in the in the title, so I
Speaker 3: even so they hit me. And then they had like
Speaker 3: his other manager hit me, who like works I forget
Speaker 3: what label she works at, but she works with Doug,
Speaker 3: she works with a lot of people. She's like well
Speaker 3: respected in the industry. So I took it out of
Speaker 3: the title, right, And then then they had hit me
Speaker 3: and they were like because we put the clip up,
Speaker 3: because we put clips up right, like yo. His guy
Speaker 3: hit me like, yo, you gotta take that shit down.
Speaker 3: And I was like, or what, it's already up? Like
Speaker 3: what you mean? I gotta take it down. Tell me
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen if I don't take it down, bro?
Speaker 3: Like what do you? What the fuck are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 3: You see you come back to the studio. We're here
Speaker 3: all day, you know what I mean? And uh, little
Speaker 3: Pump posted my phone number on his story and said
Speaker 3: call me. My phone was blowing the fuck up for like,
Speaker 3: oh oh my god, oh my yeah, it was hilarious.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So you're changing number obviously?
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I I just was like two phones, right,
Speaker 3: So I just turned that one off. I was driving
Speaker 3: to Mexico at the time, so I just turned it
Speaker 3: off and I had I had all kinds of fucking
Speaker 3: like weird ass like pasty white bitches from Germany sending
Speaker 3: me nudes and ship on WhatsApp. Like it was fucking weird.
Speaker 3: What the hell? It was super weird. But but you
Speaker 3: have the interview obviously, Fuck yeah, it's on there, right
Speaker 3: and go run it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep keep watching that, I guess right, yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was like a.
Speaker 3: Fair interviewed a little pump. I was like giving him
Speaker 3: props and ship. I see.
Speaker 1: I've watched some of the clips too, Like it didn't
Speaker 1: even seem like it was like it is what it is.
Speaker 3: It was funny though.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a messy interview.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was very just a genuine conversation about where he's at.
Speaker 3: And like the whole But you know what, people are delusional.
Speaker 1: People are extremely delusional.
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, if he'd have shown some
Speaker 3: sort of like humility and like like you know, self
Speaker 3: awareness in that interview, I feel like people would have
Speaker 3: been like, oh, a little pump, you know, mature a little.
Speaker 3: But he was like I'm rich when I was like,
Speaker 3: did J Cole, you know, looking back at y'all's interview,
Speaker 3: when y'all's interaction, do you think he predicted anything that
Speaker 3: ended up happening with your career. He's just like, I
Speaker 3: just know I'm rich. And I was like, all right, bro,
Speaker 3: well well J Cole.
Speaker 1: J Cole is also very rich.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Ja Cole, the co owner of the Hornets.
Speaker 3: God damn it, literally co owner of the Hornets.
Speaker 1: Now that shit is crazy to me. I love that
Speaker 1: from you.
Speaker 3: Guys have such a high output in terms of just
Speaker 3: like you guys do a lot, right, Yeah? How many?
Speaker 3: How many things a week do you feel you would?
Speaker 3: You say you film?
Speaker 2: I mean it could arrange for anywhere, like from fifteen
Speaker 2: to twenty. I feel like, you know what I'm saying, Uh,
Speaker 2: depending on the week that we're having. Like when we're
Speaker 2: on tour, we film a lot because we're doing only
Speaker 2: freestyles out.
Speaker 3: Right, so everybody pull up, yeah, pull up, shoot.
Speaker 1: Bing bang boom, Like today I'll give you. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what we're doing today.
Speaker 3: We're doing.
Speaker 2: Give me the list, John, We're doing, We're doing what
Speaker 2: he's John calls at the California Love site but that's
Speaker 2: what we're calling it.
Speaker 1: Right. So we got a bunch of artists pulling up
Speaker 1: to you today. Here, give me the list.
Speaker 3: This is all Cali artists.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we have Reason, we have kembe X, we
Speaker 1: got Simba.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got Jason Cash, we got pac Man,
Speaker 2: the Gunman, Incognita, Kayla James, and as the last Stone
Speaker 2: confirmed today. Just now, Oh, Jaystone's gonna be in the site.
Speaker 2: Make sure he's on time again.
Speaker 3: Make sure you're you know, googling the politics there.
Speaker 1: Oh, the politics is messing on that one. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: they don't know about each other.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying Stone. Oh, like, if you ever come
Speaker 3: to Cali and you're gonna have like thirty rappers in
Speaker 3: the building at the same time, just make sure everybody
Speaker 3: knows about each other before that happens. Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: not saying anybody on that list you just said. I'm
Speaker 3: not applying that to them because they're all very mature,
Speaker 3: great dudes, you know, Yeah, but yeah, not just you know,
Speaker 3: La can get tricky.
Speaker 2: Oh I know, yeah, I feel that was the one
Speaker 2: thing is like I'm like, I can't wear a Yankee
Speaker 2: hat out here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can I'm just I mean, you can wear
Speaker 3: a Yankee hat, you just can't go to certain places
Speaker 3: wherever you're at, you're probably fine.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me that, bro, I didn't pack no Yankee
Speaker 1: finish the play awards.
Speaker 3: Like you're find like in Hollywood, you're finding the valley
Speaker 3: you just can't go to, like South Central, you really can't.
Speaker 3: Just there's like a bubble, the like I'm in town bubble.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm in town bubble and you'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Well, he got pressed by a valet once, right, he
Speaker 1: got pressed by a valet once. What color was that.
Speaker 3: Red yet? Yeah, like the navy blue one by the stadium.
Speaker 3: Which stadium? Oh yeah, I mean that makes sense. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's downtown.
Speaker 1: So that that's how there you goes. That's how we
Speaker 1: messed up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I would say, Hollywood to the valley, you know, Melrose,
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills, Hollywood, you'll be good West Hollywood. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: once you started getting to that downtown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, like I feel like that's only that's
Speaker 2: that's the only downside that I've that I thought out here.
Speaker 3: But that's the sip of Also, if you were to
Speaker 3: the rock Nation is a great choice because you can't
Speaker 3: wear any hat out here. I think there's two hats
Speaker 3: that are safe, but every other hat is something. But
Speaker 3: I'm a hat guy, right, so I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: I just be you know, hey, man, where are you from?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: From here? Buddy? What's up? I've never you know? You know,
Speaker 3: I did get I got pressed recently, but it was
Speaker 3: it wasn't even like, uh yeah, I got pressed recently,
Speaker 3: very weird set of circumstances. But it wasn't because of
Speaker 3: the hat I was wearing. It was because I I
Speaker 3: was trying to find a place to piss and I
Speaker 3: walked down the wrong cult to sack.
Speaker 1: Now that that no bathroom nearby? Where you have no
Speaker 1: bathroom nere is mean, it's like where do I go?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So what like cause again, like I said, you
Speaker 3: guys have so much output? How big is the team? Like,
Speaker 3: like how many people you got on the squad that
Speaker 3: is like helping push everything out?
Speaker 1: So we got Rob he's like the main shooter editor.
Speaker 1: We got John.
Speaker 2: He runs the record label, also does like talent relations, Toby,
Speaker 2: talent relation and sales.
Speaker 3: She's a She's a monster, she's the sales Yeah, Brandy
Speaker 3: like hook you up at the Puma deal or yeah, yeah, she's.
Speaker 2: Been bringing a lot of that. We got some we
Speaker 2: got a lot of dope stuff on the way with that.
Speaker 2: We got Calvin who does pictures. We got JV who
Speaker 2: is kind of like our he does a little bit
Speaker 2: of everything like interning wise.
Speaker 1: And then we just brought my young guy right here.
Speaker 3: JC.
Speaker 1: We met him at New Orleans last week. He's from Orleans,
Speaker 1: An so.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, and you meet him at the
Speaker 3: Rop forty unite.
Speaker 2: Things, Yeah, yeah, pretty much. And and he's and he's dope,
Speaker 2: he's good, he works hard. So we're like fucking like,
Speaker 2: we're going from Nola to LA. Let's bring him to
Speaker 2: La with us, and you know, let's see what he
Speaker 2: could do. So we have like about like a five
Speaker 2: person team.
Speaker 3: How many you did Atlanta, you did New Orleans, you're
Speaker 3: in LA. How many cities are you doing on the
Speaker 3: tour thing we've done?
Speaker 1: Like we're doing like ten.
Speaker 2: But it's definitely gonna keep just going up because like
Speaker 2: I feel like what I wanted for on the radar
Speaker 2: right because we came up under the New York stuff
Speaker 2: and obviously I feel like for me at least I
Speaker 2: feel like I've done like almost pretty much everything I've
Speaker 2: wanted to do in New York. Right, I'm always going
Speaker 2: to be back in New York, always gonna do upcoming
Speaker 2: New York, New York artists, Cause's where I'm from, that's home.
Speaker 2: Like my vision for this show is like, I want
Speaker 2: to be the biggest music platform in the world.
Speaker 3: You feel me.
Speaker 2: So we're doing We're We're also doing Houston, Detroit, We're
Speaker 2: doing the Bay, We're doing Chicago, We're doing DC, We're
Speaker 2: doing Miami, We're.
Speaker 1: Doing Charlotte, North Carolina. What else am I missing? I
Speaker 1: think that's really That's pretty much it.
Speaker 2: And then and then I think we're gonna work with
Speaker 2: Sleazy World go to bring to go to Kansas, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because he wants to bring us out to Kansas, which
Speaker 2: is dope. Might go to Ohio at some point, and
Speaker 2: then next year we want to go We're gonna go
Speaker 2: to Montreal. We want to go to Toronto, we want
Speaker 2: to go to Yep, we want to go do Ghana, Nigeria.
Speaker 1: We want to do the UK. We want to do London, Spain, France, Italy, Germany.
Speaker 3: So I want to do in the DJ set thing
Speaker 3: now right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love house music too, like, so we kind
Speaker 2: of are also using that as like a way to
Speaker 2: pivot and kind of enter in other lanes of music too,
Speaker 2: because we have hip hop, we have R and B,
Speaker 2: we got some Spanish music that we've been really pushing
Speaker 2: out lately. And but I want to also, like I said,
Speaker 2: I wanted to be the biggest music platform in the world.
Speaker 2: So I'm deaf trying to like do DJs as to
Speaker 2: kind of like get that European audience too, because they're
Speaker 2: really into that.
Speaker 3: You got to go to London, man, I know, that's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the goal. That's the goal.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: We've had like AJ, Tracy Digady, Unknown T gigs, like
Speaker 2: it's the London Trip is like the London Trip is
Speaker 2: just gonna be like me going back to New York.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's just like we're just gonna run
Speaker 2: sh it up out there. And I love the UK culture,
Speaker 2: like the fact that Central C was able to be
Speaker 2: the first hard first UK artist to do the double
Speaker 2: XL cover as far as I'm.
Speaker 3: Aware, Yeah, I think I mean one Savage that's a
Speaker 3: good one.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, like I love the UK right now,
Speaker 2: and I think the UK like UK artists are like
Speaker 2: really like they're they're bodying a lot of like.
Speaker 3: The American art agree. I love that central Ce Dave
Speaker 3: oh I got one.
Speaker 1: Of the best projects of the year so far.
Speaker 2: We had this conversation I think on uh, I think
Speaker 2: on round table, people are like, oh, why do we
Speaker 2: feel like male hip hop artists are like doing it
Speaker 2: right now? And I'm like, I'm just like, I feel
Speaker 2: like the music just isn't translating as much to audiences
Speaker 2: as well as it did before because a lot of
Speaker 2: it maybe is like the gangster rap part of it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I feel like UK artists take
Speaker 2: their craft very seriously, like I think they take their
Speaker 2: craft maybe more seriously sometimes an American artists, at least
Speaker 2: upcoming ones.
Speaker 3: I feel like also people don't give the like the
Speaker 3: UK drill scene is kind of what kept that shit alive,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I made the New
Speaker 3: York shit kind of I feel like because it was
Speaker 3: like Chicago and then UK and then we got this Brooklyn,
Speaker 3: New York. Yeah, version of the of the sub genre
Speaker 3: if you will. All right, Well, look man, you got
Speaker 3: anything else coming up? Man, We got the tour you
Speaker 3: guys signed an artist.
Speaker 1: We're working on it.
Speaker 2: We're working on We got the On the Radar records
Speaker 2: right now. Right now, we're doing like projects. So I
Speaker 2: got a bunch of projects that we got coming out
Speaker 2: under on the Radar. We got a lot of singles.
Speaker 2: We got a uh huh, Yeah, we got our first
Speaker 2: afrobeat single that maybe out by the time Y'll see this.
Speaker 2: With this girl Foddy, she's from the air, incredible, incredible talent.
Speaker 2: We've worked with her for a little bit while we
Speaker 2: went viral with her over in Africa like a year
Speaker 2: ago with one of her performances on my show. So
Speaker 2: we got that, got a lot of singles on the
Speaker 2: way I'm trying to but also we have coming up.
Speaker 2: We were coming Yeah, I sent a bunch of EPs,
Speaker 2: were going to different cities and yeah, man, I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm really just trying to bring on the Radar and
Speaker 2: make on the Radar the biggest and best music platform
Speaker 2: that's this world has ever seen. I've seen, like you know,
Speaker 2: how Americans, how we look at one O six in
Speaker 2: Park and Rahap City and how we think about that
Speaker 2: and how we idolize those platforms, like I wanted to
Speaker 2: be thought.
Speaker 1: I want on the radar, be thought about that. But
Speaker 1: like around the world.
Speaker 3: Also because the TV shit don't matter no more. So
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, it's no one cares. Yeah TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I want YouTube's TV. Bro, YouTube is TV.
Speaker 2: So if you're not on YouTube, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But I wanted, I want it to be the biggest
Speaker 2: music platform in the world. So that's like, that's an
Speaker 2: angle for me.
Speaker 3: Well ship being. Congrats brother, you're on your way, man,
Speaker 3: appreciate your pulling up. Man.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you're what it is.
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