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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the

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Speaker 1: pleasure of being joined by Gino Stone today, Gino Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 1: When this, when this pod comes out, it'll be Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: We gotta start there. Oh yeah, I appreciate it. Happy

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving me, Happy thanks to you. What's your what's your

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Speaker 1: go to Thanksgiving side? I don't know. If I put

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Speaker 1: him on the spot, yeah, I don't know. A hard

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Speaker 1: hitter out of the gate. Honestly, I really don't eat

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving food like that. I I really, I really want

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Speaker 1: to eat the stuffing, so I only eat the stuffing.

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Speaker 1: I don't probably don't eat Thanksgiving food superators, no cat,

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Speaker 1: super Tata castrole. Not really, I really don't. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: really don't eat anything like that because I mean I

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Speaker 1: don't well one during football season, I want to be

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Speaker 1: too heavy coming next next day and then a trip

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Speaker 1: the fan'll get you to. I mean, when I was younger,

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Speaker 1: I seat turkey and all that stuff all the time.

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Speaker 1: But now I just really just seat the stuffing. I

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Speaker 1: just really stop eating. So what do you do? You

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Speaker 1: what you're thinking? Plans? Like, are you gonna go to

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Speaker 1: a Thanksgiving dinner? Or Yeah, I haven't really thought about

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Speaker 1: it yet. He's just getting some stuff coming to work

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Speaker 1: and after that got to flow, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know some teammates say to come over to the house,

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Speaker 1: so probably just go hang out with some of them.

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Speaker 1: But besides that, I mean, I'm really not worried about

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Speaker 1: the food or do you do you put sausage in

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Speaker 1: your stuffing because that's a clutchabool. I never had to

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Speaker 1: give it a shot. Sausage and the stuffing is cluyah.

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Speaker 1: All right, we should talk about football a little bit. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Marcus Williams goes down, you step in and

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Speaker 1: you've done such a such an awesome job, it's like

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Speaker 1: nobody's even talked about it, you know. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: you have a great player like Marcus go down, it's like,

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? A credit to you that nobody's even

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Speaker 1: thought twice about it? Right, I mean, just what has

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Speaker 1: it been like stepping in for a guy like that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just just watching him from OTAs when he

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Speaker 1: So you know, just watching from all that time making

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Speaker 1: plays during the season. Now, um, you know, just trying

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Speaker 1: that situation that you found yourself in when a player

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Speaker 1: like him gets hurt and you know, all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden you're stepping into the starting lineup, is there a

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Speaker 1: feeling of like, all right, this is my opportunity to

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Speaker 1: think a lot of players who are probably in your position,

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Speaker 1: Was that part of your thought process when you were

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Speaker 1: going in to start those you know, first couple of games, Um, yeah, somewhat,

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Speaker 1: the guys who are in this room. Chuck Clark comes

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Speaker 1: I definitely do, you know. I mean, opportunities like that

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Speaker 1: Now where's that kind of leave you? Like, that's got

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm gonna stay too. I'm a team player,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna be a guy that's gets all

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Speaker 1: be on the field, right And your role on special

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Speaker 1: you know, and especially after co Cap retired, it seemed

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Speaker 1: you just talk about how you've grown as a special

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, if it wasn't for co cap I mean, um,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I really don't know if how to really

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Speaker 1: That's someone I sat next to every day and meetings

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Speaker 1: And I think that like a lot of guys come

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Speaker 1: defensive player since you've been probably in seventh grade, right,

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Speaker 1: They're like, I don't want to play special teams. I'm

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Speaker 1: But the guys who have these long careers, like Anthony

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Speaker 1: how did you kind of approach that aspect? Not really,

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Speaker 1: don't know why people think it's that bad. Really not

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Speaker 1: You know you're out there multiple stabs. So um. But

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Speaker 1: Seems like you kind of take that a little bit seriously.

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Speaker 1: mean honestly. I mean Chris Horn, you know, he gets

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Speaker 1: You know, we always just raced down there and touch

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Speaker 1: your background is really interesting and coming out of Iowa

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Speaker 1: being a seventh round pick. I remember when we drafted you,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, Jeremiah. I'm sure some Pro Football Focus guys like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know draft day, I mean, that's probably one of

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Speaker 1: then like I'm wait, I'm sitting there waiting and I'm

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Speaker 1: texting back like so what do you like, what are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do? Wait? So I'm like, I'm like texting like,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Who are texting? Uh? I

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Speaker 1: want to I want to say it was Chris howittt Okay,

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Speaker 1: I say it was Chris Howott. But I'm texting everyone

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Speaker 1: to be in? Um? Honestly, you know, I just whatever,

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Speaker 1: whatever whatever the coaches feel like the best situation is

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Speaker 1: for me, you know. Um, I mean I could play

427
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Speaker 1: deep and then I could also play down on the box. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, so whatever whatever they see is the best

429
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Speaker 1: situation for me at that moment, because I mean, I

430
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Speaker 1: gotta like Marcus is a different person coming out that post,

431
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Speaker 1: and I've never seen someone have range like that as

432
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Speaker 1: the first person. I So I have range and speed

433
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Speaker 1: like he does. Right. Um, But you know, whatever the

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Speaker 1: coaches want to whoever coaches put me out, you know,

435
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Speaker 1: that's what that's what I'll try to work on. And

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Speaker 1: UM say, yeah, so whoever wherever they see me yet,

437
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Speaker 1: that's why that's why I'll do. And the last one

438
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Speaker 1: for me just for this defense as a whole, Like

439
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Speaker 1: you guys, just keep getting better. Great game against the Saints,

440
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Speaker 1: even better game against the Panthers. What do you see

441
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Speaker 1: as kind of like the ceiling for this unit? I

442
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Speaker 1: mean I feel like I feel like we could be

443
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Speaker 1: a really dominant defense. I mean I feel like we're

444
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Speaker 1: starting to show We're starting to show it now. Um,

445
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Speaker 1: definitely our ways, we got some ways to go, but uh,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're starting to We're starting to click

447
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Speaker 1: at the right moment and uh and it's you know,

448
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Speaker 1: it's starting to be the best part because it's the

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Speaker 1: second half of the season in November, December, January football,

450
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Speaker 1: that's where games, that's where games are one in the playoffs. So, um,

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Speaker 1: I feel like if you want to get to that point,

452
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Speaker 1: we gotta keep doing what we're doing, keep stacking days,

453
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Speaker 1: keep getting better, holding each other, holding each other accountable,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like we'll go along way awesome. We'll

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Speaker 1: enjoy your Thanksgiving stuff and thanks for joining us. Well,

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Speaker 1: great stuff from Gino, thanks to him for joining. Also,

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Speaker 1: as you well know, because we've been doing this for

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Speaker 1: a little while, sometimes the best stories come after you

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Speaker 1: stop recording. Well that's always the case. It's always the

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Speaker 1: best stuff is always before the MIC's rolling and then

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Speaker 1: once you hit exactly So with Gino, after we started

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Speaker 1: stopped according you know, we started talking to him about

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Speaker 1: the plays he's made over the years and stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: and how he was a big time ballhawk in college

478
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Speaker 1: at Iowa. He said he got four picks in eight

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Speaker 1: games when he first became a starter, and then he

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Speaker 1: had one pick his last year and it was a

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Speaker 1: big one though it was a pick six. I remembered

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Speaker 1: what he got on trace McSorley by the way, at

483
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Speaker 1: Penn State, which Ganeau grew up in Pennsylvania, kind of

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Speaker 1: between Cleveland and Pittsburgh. So he got a pick six

485
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Speaker 1: at Penn State. Big moment in his career with his

486
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Speaker 1: mom in the stands, but she did not see it

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Speaker 1: because she was too busy. Was which one was I

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Speaker 1: think she was. She was at the consent she was cold,

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Speaker 1: she was cold. She was in the bathroom. It was

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Speaker 1: too cold. And so we're laughing about that, and he goes, yeah,

491
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Speaker 1: and then last year when I picked off Ben Roethlisberger,

492
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Speaker 1: he did in the season finale, he got Ben, which

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be Ben's last game, should have been

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Speaker 1: Ben's last game, picked him off. His mom was at

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Speaker 1: that game too, but she also didn't see that interception

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Speaker 1: because she was at the concession There's a trend here.

497
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Speaker 1: There's a trend. So the trend is we need Gino's

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Speaker 1: mom to be Gino's mom. If you're listening to this,

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Speaker 1: all right, we need you at every game, and we

500
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Speaker 1: need you not paying attention at all. I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: your phone. You can be playing Candy Crush, whatever you

502
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Speaker 1: want to be doing at the concession stands, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to be doing. Just don't watch the game, don't

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Speaker 1: watch Gino play. Yeah for mom, is Sel whenever it's

505
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Speaker 1: like a key, you know, fourth quarter, you know, third

506
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: down to the fourth quarter, that's when you get out

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Speaker 1: of the stand, you head you the concession stand at

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Speaker 1: that point, because that's when you know a big plays

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Speaker 1: about to aac My mother in law is actually the

510
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Speaker 1: same way. She cannot watch. She gets too nervous watching

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Speaker 1: Ravens games, so she refuses to watch and she swears,

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Speaker 1: you know, they always do better when she's not watching, right,

513
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Speaker 1: So maybe this is the same case exactly. Well, Look,

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Speaker 1: it's I enjoyed talking with Gino. I mean, he's got

515
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Speaker 1: an interesting story based on you know, his rookie year

516
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Speaker 1: and balancing back and forth and then earning a spot

517
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Speaker 1: on the roster now starting and playing well. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's been a bit of an up and down start

519
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Speaker 1: for him, but he's really played well. I think you

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Speaker 1: kind of summed it up well when you said, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, Marcus Williams gets hurt and Marcus Williams big

522
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Speaker 1: free Asia signing, right, you know, he's kind of the

523
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: marquee new addition to this team this offseason. He gets

524
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Speaker 1: hurt and he's been playing great. He has three picks

525
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: in four games and it's like, oh, this guy's going

526
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Speaker 1: to be a stud. And he goes down. He's like,

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Speaker 1: what's this mean for this defense? Well, Gino's just stepped

528
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Speaker 1: in and no one is sitting here staying like, well,

529
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Speaker 1: this defense isn't the same without Marcus, And that's a

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Speaker 1: credit to Gino. Yep. And I mean I think that

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Speaker 1: he's he's proven that he has the ability to be

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Speaker 1: a starter in this league. Yeah, and deserves a lot

533
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Speaker 1: of credit for that. Well, and just what he's done

534
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Speaker 1: on special teams too, Like you can carve out a

535
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Speaker 1: very solid career. You know, look at what Anthony Levine

536
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Speaker 1: has done or did over his career, right, he had

537
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Speaker 1: like played for over a decade, and was he ever

538
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Speaker 1: like a sixteen game defensive starter. No, but he started

539
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Speaker 1: a bunch of games, stepping in for different players, playing

540
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Speaker 1: in a versatile role, and being a leader on special teams. Like,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's the past for Gino or maybe he becomes

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Speaker 1: a sixteen game starter. I don't know, But one thing

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Speaker 1: I feel confident in is that Geno Stone is gonna

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Speaker 1: have a long career because he's a fessional. He prepares

545
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Speaker 1: himself well, he's smart, player, instinctual, he's got the speed,

546
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Speaker 1: he got the ball hulk. You know, he's got a

547
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Speaker 1: little bit of everything that just makes him a good football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he reminds me a lot of Chuck Clark, right.

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Speaker 1: I use that that comparison when I asked him about it,

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Speaker 1: And Chuck is a guy committed himself to special team's

551
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Speaker 1: sixth round pick, and so then chucks the opportunity and

552
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Speaker 1: sees it and it's been a starter ever since. Yep. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know. So you know, it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: how Gina's crew plays out. But I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think that he he is somebody who's going to

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Speaker 1: be in the NFL for a while now. The fact

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't eat Thanksgiving dinner is a big, big, striking,

558
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Speaker 1: big red flag. That's probably why he dropped the seventh round.

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Speaker 1: That was probably in the scouting report. Guy doesn't like Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: Oh what No, he said he ate it. No, I

561
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Speaker 1: actually respect it because he said he ate it as

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Speaker 1: a kid. But now when season, unlike you, he's got

563
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Speaker 1: to maintain tip top physical conditions. Nah, you basically just

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Speaker 1: pour into Thanksgiving food and then just one meal. It's

565
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Speaker 1: one meal. The game isn't for three days away. When

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Speaker 1: you're when you're a great physical athlete like Gino and myself,

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Speaker 1: you need to make sure that you're not bulking too

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Speaker 1: much during Thanksgiving the bulking season for me. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know that's true. I love thanks It's my favorite holiday.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people feel that way. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel that way? Uh? Yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 1: it's your favorite holiday. Yeah. They football games. It's great

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Speaker 1: to watch games. The food is great, family is great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you've got your newborn baby. First Thanksgiving, you blend up

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Speaker 1: the food and the blender for the baby. She's on

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Speaker 1: the milk. Die no, no, no Thanksgiving turkey for her

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Speaker 1: only milk. Anyway, the Ravens have a big game coming

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Speaker 1: up against the Jags and looking to win their fifth straight.

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Speaker 1: And we were kind of breaking this down in the

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Speaker 1: lounge earlier today and we were saying, you know, if

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Speaker 1: the Ravens can, really so it's the Jags, then the

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Speaker 1: Broncos and Browns and then I think Steelers. Right, if

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Speaker 1: the Ravens can, I would say, win their next three games, Jacks, Broncos,

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Speaker 1: it goes Jags, Broncos, Steelers, Browns. I really oh okay,

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Speaker 1: if they can win their next three, I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna that might put the division race out of out

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Speaker 1: of reach. The Bengals have a tough schedule down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: They have to play the Patriots on the road, they

589
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Speaker 1: play the Bills, They have the Browns, they have Chiefs, Titans,

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Speaker 1: chiefs in the Titans. Right, it's like murderers row the

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Speaker 1: rest of the way. But you look at their schedule exactly,

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Speaker 1: and obviously we've talked about the Ravens schedule. I just

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Speaker 1: feel like you, you feel like the division go ahead?

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't give them. I already did this. I did

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Speaker 1: hot take. I think I thinks are gonna win the division.

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Speaker 1: I think, oh you did. You were hotter than that

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Speaker 1: this morning, red hot? You were red hot. Take what

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Speaker 1: I said? That said division? You said the divisions. The

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Speaker 1: Rabs are gonna win the division. The Raves are gonna

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Speaker 1: win the division. Just lock and key. Right now, it's

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Speaker 1: just locked up. I mean I think that, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that I laid this out over the course of

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Speaker 1: the by week. Now, of course, a million things could happen,

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Speaker 1: players get hurt, all that different stuff, But like, as

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Speaker 1: I look at it right now, I don't see a

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Speaker 1: way a path that the Ravens don't win the division.

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Speaker 1: They have the lead on the Bengals. The Bengals are

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Speaker 1: game behind, them, and the Ravens have beaten and the

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Speaker 1: Bengals have much more. The Bengals, yes, have three losses

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Speaker 1: in the AFC North. Uh, they have a much tougher

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Speaker 1: schedule down the stretch, and so even if they finished

612
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Speaker 1: with the same record right now, that that would mean

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Speaker 1: that the Ravens still have the tiebreaker of them because

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Speaker 1: they split the head ahead and the Ravens have a

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Speaker 1: better record in the division. Um So I just don't see.

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Speaker 1: I don't see the Bengals running the table against the Bills, Chiefs, Titans, Browns, Patriots. Right,

617
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Speaker 1: I don't see that. I agree with you, and I

618
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Speaker 1: think that's what I say. If the Ravens win the

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Speaker 1: next three, I think it's I think it's out of

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Speaker 1: reach for the Bengals. I think if the Ravens win

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Speaker 1: their next next seven games, they are definitely gonna win

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Speaker 1: the division. I'll go out I'll go out there on

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Speaker 1: a lamb. I'll do the mank I'll go out there

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Speaker 1: on a lamb. If that happens, then they're gonna win

625
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Speaker 1: the division. Thank you. You're freezing cold takes Oh no, Look,

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Speaker 1: so so this game against Jacksonville like it, you know,

627
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: some similarities I think to the Carolina game, this is

628
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: a game that the Ravens were favored and you expect

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Speaker 1: them to win. I do think that the teams are

630
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Speaker 1: a little bit different. Um, Carolina really good, I think

631
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Speaker 1: defense and this this Jacksonville team has a better offense,

632
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: have some dynamic you know, former number one overall pick

633
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: in Trevor Lawrence. Um they have Travis e Tn has

634
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Speaker 1: been a really good running back. Has been a pretty

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Speaker 1: good signing for the ETM. Looks like he did in Clemson.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was a dynamic player and earned his

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Speaker 1: spot as a first round pick. Do it all back,

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Speaker 1: ye can run, can catch it out of the backfield.

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Speaker 1: So the offense, I mean, Doug Peterson good offensive minded coach.

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Speaker 1: So like I think that there are some similarities there,

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Speaker 1: just based on schedule and their record, and you know,

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Speaker 1: looking at that they have some high high draft picks

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Speaker 1: on defense too, is Raymond Walker? Yeah, they have some.

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Speaker 1: They've spent some early picks on defense. So there They're

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Speaker 1: another team kind of to me similar to the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: where you look at their roster and you say, there's

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Speaker 1: some talented pieces around here, Like there's a lot of talent.

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Speaker 1: I thought at the beginning of the year, especially given

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Speaker 1: the amount of money that the Jags spent in free agency.

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Speaker 1: They were one of the big spenders. I kind of

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Speaker 1: looked at this one on the schedule, was like, this

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Speaker 1: is not gonna be like the Jags might be close

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Speaker 1: to five hundred team this year. I thought that they

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Speaker 1: would be much improved and they and they have. In

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has been much better. He's turned the ball

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Speaker 1: over far less, and his second year compared to his

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Speaker 1: rookie year, And so I still look at this as

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Speaker 1: a game despite the Jags record not being really close

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Speaker 1: to five hundred right now. I do think that this

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Speaker 1: is similar to Carolina, an opponent that you certainly can't

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Speaker 1: sleep on, and they have enough talent where they can

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Speaker 1: put a scarantee. And this game makes me more nervous

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Speaker 1: in the Carolina one, you know, coming off the buy

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Speaker 1: at home for Carolina, this one on the road, and

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Speaker 1: I think that the Jags are less actually interesting. The

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Speaker 1: Jackson me are a better team to Carolina. I would

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Speaker 1: probably agree with that, but you know, coming off the by,

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Speaker 1: I think this played a little bit into the offensive sluggishness.

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Speaker 1: Is you're coming off the by you're just not quite

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Speaker 1: as sharp. You don't you're not on a roll. The

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Speaker 1: cold weather game. Now you're going back down the Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: Florida it's going to be warm, like mid seventies down there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that all kind of gives me hope. You had a

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Speaker 1: good email about this. Actually it's from Ronnie Smith, and

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Speaker 1: he says, I don't think anyone considers the over the

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Speaker 1: top passing attack against Carolina was dangerous in this game

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Speaker 1: because of the wind conditions in Baltimore. Cold day, windy day.

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Speaker 1: And also, he says, I think the buye week canduce

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Speaker 1: is some non sharpness in terms of execution. There's something

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Speaker 1: to be said for a week to week practice in games.

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Speaker 1: You take a look at the end of the twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen season. Of course, right it's fourteen and two that

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Speaker 1: season they get to buy then lose Tennessee in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: took the time off at the end of the season

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Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. That's an extreme case, he says.

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Speaker 1: But so those are two points there, and I think

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Speaker 1: that that Ronnie makes some some good points on both

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Speaker 1: of those fronts. I said this on the Morning Raft

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Speaker 1: Morning After Reaction podcasts earlier in the week. I do

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Speaker 1: think the weather had an impact in the offensive production

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Speaker 1: in the game side, I think it was cold, the

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Speaker 1: wind was depending on the part of the same you

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Speaker 1: were in, the wind was bad and I think that

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Speaker 1: that led to and if you look at around the league,

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Speaker 1: like I know that like the Jets and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: still have these like dynamic offenses, but like that that

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Speaker 1: game has played in similar weather conditions to this one,

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Speaker 1: and there was no offense in that game, right right,

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Speaker 1: There's no nothing happened on the offensive front. I just

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Speaker 1: was the ravens first cold game of the season. I

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Speaker 1: think that the weather played a factor and that was

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Speaker 1: part of the reason that the offense is a little

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Speaker 1: slugg well. I also think it was part game plan,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Ravens went into this obviously is

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Speaker 1: a heavy favorite, and you know how a heavy favorite

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Speaker 1: loses a game like that. They turned They turned the

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Speaker 1: ball over exactly. So I don't think it was a game,

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Speaker 1: especially with the weather conditions and especially with the way

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Speaker 1: the defense was playing, that the Ravens were going to

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Speaker 1: or needed to take many chances offensively, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you saw, you know, Lamar Jackson's yards per attempt are down,

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Speaker 1: I think in part because the Ravens just don't ay.

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Speaker 1: They lost their top speed thread over the top and

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Speaker 1: Rishot Bateman, so let's not discount that, right. And they

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Speaker 1: thought they had signed one with the Shawn Jackson and

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Speaker 1: maybe they have, but he got injured in the first game,

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Speaker 1: so I think that's affecting some of the deep passing

718
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: game as well, and the way the defense is playing. Look,

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Speaker 1: John Harball does not really care about style points at all.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he wants to see the defense play ball.

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Speaker 1: But they know what their formula is offensively. That's to

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Speaker 1: run the ball, ground down opponents. The run sets up

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Speaker 1: the pass and all that, and you want to hit

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Speaker 1: some more, but you want to have some big plays

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Speaker 1: sprinkled in there. Right. That's why they go out and

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Speaker 1: get to Shawn Jackson because he'll probably have a few

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Speaker 1: of them, yep, right, But without him and all this stuff, now,

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Speaker 1: it's basically let's ground them that ground and pound, right.

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Speaker 1: And the Ravens actually kind of they ran the ball

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Speaker 1: better in the second half. They were in position if

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Speaker 1: it had it not been for some penalties to put

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Speaker 1: up some points in the second half and to kind

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Speaker 1: of take over the game on the ground, as I

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Speaker 1: think they intended right. So it was just that in

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Speaker 1: the first half the run game got stuffed quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: and so I think that the passing game in warm

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Speaker 1: weather Jacksonville has a better chance of getting a little

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Speaker 1: bit more momentum and looking more like itself. But let's

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Speaker 1: not kid ourselves. The formula here is run the ball

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Speaker 1: and run it well. If Gus Edwards is back on

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Speaker 1: the field, that certainly helps with that, and once Jak

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Speaker 1: Dobbins comes back that I'll hope with that too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the formula is changing, but I do think,

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Speaker 1: as I said, I think the conditions of Sunday's game,

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Speaker 1: both game circumstance and weather well part of the factor.

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Speaker 1: And only getting thirteen points. The only thing is, though

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Speaker 1: you know, outside of the Jacksonville game, it didn't getting anymore, no,

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Speaker 1: of course, and so you need to be sharper. You

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Speaker 1: can't exactly. You're not gonna make Buffalo if you have

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Speaker 1: to go there in the playoffs. They're not gonna be

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Speaker 1: making any apologies about playing in ten degrees. So that's

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Speaker 1: that's the circumstance that you could find yourself with a

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Speaker 1: howling win. We've seen that story. Yes, So, like you

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Speaker 1: need to be able to be sharp in bad weather,

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Speaker 1: and that's something I'm sure the Raven's gonna be working

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Speaker 1: on over the course of the rest of the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I do think like for as much as concerned

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Speaker 1: as there's been about the offense, you know, they're pretty

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Speaker 1: darn sharp with Marcus Robinson. Like there's sideline passes nine nine, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, don't don't take that away from DeMarcus,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like he had a game

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Speaker 1: in Lamar delivered some points spot on passes to him,

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Speaker 1: and that's what you needed. You know. We all kind

764
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Speaker 1: of talk about, like, well when they take away the

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Speaker 1: run game, do you have an answer to that? Right? Well,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't they didn't have a great It wasn't like

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00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: they had a great offensive day, right, But like DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: Robinson was the answer against the Panthers, and that answer

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Speaker 1: was effective. It was pretty good. They just penalties and

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Speaker 1: they stubbed their toe in some critical situations and scoring

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Speaker 1: in the scoring range. So um, Anyway, I think that

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Speaker 1: the offense will look better against Stacksville And that's why

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Speaker 1: I feel better going into this game than it did

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Speaker 1: against the Panthers. Yeah, that's fair. So as always, you

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Speaker 1: can email us at the lounge at Ravens Thought NFL

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Speaker 1: dot net. We wish everyone a very happy Thanksgiving. I

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Speaker 1: hope you and your family enjoy it and uh wait

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Speaker 1: get ready wait no no, no, no great meal, no no,

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Speaker 1: no one least what we gotta say or Thanksgiving favorites.

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Speaker 1: Just as a side note, a lot of listeners love

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Speaker 1: the drafts. The original draft, the verse ever draft that

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Speaker 1: we did was the Thanksgiving That was the first draft.

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Speaker 1: That was the OG draft. That was the first ever.

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Speaker 1: That was total domination. That was a classic. Go back

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Speaker 1: and listen to that. That was one of the first episodes.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We put wine on there or no alcohol

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Speaker 1: and you ended up with basically alcohol and bread. That

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Speaker 1: was And I ended up with turkey stuffing Thanksgiving Mac.

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Speaker 1: It was the early communion draft for me. Gravy. I

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Speaker 1: ended up with all of it. Um, yeah that's um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I will be I will definitely be throwing

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Speaker 1: down all of the food. But what's your what's your favorite? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you go for? Stuffing? Stuffing is the best? Stuffing.

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Speaker 1: Stuffing is the best. Okay, I'm sweep Tata castrole with

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Speaker 1: little too desserty. Anyway, Thanks for listening and get ready

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Speaker 1: for the By Thanksgiving weekend, we