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Speaker 3: we're going to be talking about veterans, wounded veterans, healthy veterans,

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Speaker 3: how they can get some help, and one organization, one

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Speaker 3: today I have President Tom kilgannon of Freedom Alliance. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to the show. Tom, Happy holidays.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you're right great to be with you. Thanks so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you know, we were reached out to

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Speaker 3: sitting there saying, hey, let's get Tom on. You guys

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Speaker 3: with books. Okay. Now, Tom, you guys work with veterans

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Speaker 4: Sure again, thanks for having me On and Freedom Alliance

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Speaker 4: is a it's a military support and veterans support organization,

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Speaker 4: and we're providing help in a variety of ways. So

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Speaker 3: An Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom. Right, correct, Yes,

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Speaker 4: So we have we have a few things. One is

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Speaker 3: But it's all true. A lot go to the parking

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Speaker 3: Well, I want to get into the specifics about why

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Speaker 3: What a great introduction into how you found yourself doing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Freedom Alliance dot org is the best way.

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Speaker 4: The let me just make a point on the on

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Speaker 4: But I mean on the mortgages, so we have a mortgage.

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Speaker 4: in some respects and then we we put them in

433
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Speaker 4: the home. And so, uh, the way we do it

434
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 4: rad is we we look for those who who need

435
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 4: a home, need a helping hand, are going to be

436
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 4: good neighbors, are going to take care of it, who

437
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 4: are going to use it as their primary residents. And

438
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 4: so we require that they Freedom Alliance will own the

439
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 4: home and we will lease it to them for a

440
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Speaker 4: period of two years. We charge them a whopping one

441
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 4: dollar per month during the lease period, and that for

442
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 4: us is sort of an extension of the approval process.

443
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 4: We want to make sure they're taking care of it,

444
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 4: they're doing all the things, a series of protocols that

445
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: we ask them to abide by, and then we ask

446
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: them once we give them the deed after two years,

447
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: we ask them not to sell it for at least

448
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 4: three years, and we hold a covenant on it to

449
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 4: say you can't sell it without our permission. But once

450
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 4: they clear that five years, then it's theirs to do

451
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Speaker 4: with what they want.

452
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Speaker 3: Wow.

453
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Speaker 4: And so that's the way we run it. And we've

454
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 4: been able to give away help about twenty three, twenty two,

455
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 4: twenty three families so far. And that program just began

456
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 4: a few years ago.

457
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: You and Jimmy Carter bro she was still going by

458
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: the way. Okay, yeah, I'll.

459
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 4: Tell you what I was on a flight with Jimmy

460
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 4: Carter one time years ago. And if you ever want,

461
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 4: you know, to be cleared for takeoff and get to

462
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 4: your destination, fly with the former president for that's legit.

463
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Speaker 3: That's great. Yeah, he was what I say, I was

464
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 3: born in seventy seven, so he was the president at

465
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Speaker 3: the time I think when I was coming to this earth,

466
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Speaker 3: my friend.

467
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: So he was a Naval Academy grant, that's.

468
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 3: Right, that's right. And I mean so many homes that

469
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 3: he was a part of for you know, people that

470
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: were in need and just putting himself out there with

471
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: his project that he did. I mean, talk about selfless service. Okay,

472
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: right are percent?

473
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Speaker 4: Isn't it interesting that that former President Carter, who was

474
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 4: in office during a kind of a tumultuous time in

475
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: our history, he's probably better known by everybody for his

476
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: work with Habitat than anything he did in office.

477
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 3: I mean really, I mean I was born. That's a

478
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: good thing right there, baby, Thank you, President Carter. Jimmy

479
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 3: Carter doing the right thing for the people right here

480
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: by bringing me around. What's up, dude, that's awesome. So

481
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: so now with the horseback riding and the outdoor sports.

482
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: What what is it? Is it like you guys are

483
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: able to provide them with an experience or is this

484
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: a camp that you guys have under your you know,

485
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: under Freedom Alliance.

486
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: So and yeah, and with the horses and equine therapy

487
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 4: and some of the other things we do this these

488
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: would all fall under what we call retreats. And we're

489
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: doing these with horses. We're doing we've got a great

490
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 4: one in on the Roague River in Oregon, in Montana, Wyoming,

491
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: down in Costa Rica.

492
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

493
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: So we've we've got a variety of them. Some of

494
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: them are exclusively for the veteran themselves, some of them

495
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 4: are designed for the married couples. And in each case

496
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 4: it's it's rehab and it's trying to deal with the

497
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 4: emotional injuries. And so we have that experience, that fun experience,

498
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: whether it's fishing, snowboarding, doing something fun. But but when

499
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 4: you get back to the cabin or the base, it

500
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 4: is we're going to have conversation. Sometimes it's a prayer group.

501
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's we'll give you questions or themes in advance,

502
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: you know, we want to talk about this and uh,

503
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 4: and that's what we do. And it's you know, a

504
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 4: lot of it is is uh. They just need to

505
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 4: be able to get it out. Oftentimes they're veterans uh

506
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: who are emotionally wounded or carrying feelings of sin and

507
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 4: guilt and remorse and survivors guilt and and a number

508
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 4: of these things that they need to talk about it,

509
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: and they need to talk about it in a trusted

510
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: environment and and with people who've been there, done that,

511
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: who get it, who understand what they're talking about. And

512
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 4: so our team they're they're really great at at facilitating

513
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: those kinds of conversations, of making everybody feel welcome, of

514
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 4: providing that that circle of trust, if you will, And

515
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 4: and that's really a that's a big part of what

516
00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 4: we do RAD is you know, the veteran community, they

517
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 4: don't give their trust easily. You've got her, and you've

518
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 4: got to keep it. And and there's there's a number

519
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: of ways you can you can do that, but you

520
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: don't just put an ad in the paper and say, hey,

521
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 4: we're having this retreat and we want you to tell

522
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: us your you know, deepest darkest fears and sins and

523
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 4: all that. That doesn't work like that. You've so over

524
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: the years we've I think that we've been able to

525
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 4: develop a little bit of a reputation that says, hey,

526
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: these guys do it well. Uh not perfect, but they

527
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: do it well. And and so many of the vets

528
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: that are coming to us are coming through referral from

529
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 4: other vets or military families because they've had a positive experience.

530
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Speaker 4: And that's something that means a lot to me because

531
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Speaker 4: it speaks to what a great team we have and

532
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 4: how you know, we're we're we're trying not to put

533
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: anybody up on display or you know, be sure you

534
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: say this, or you know, let's let's pose you like

535
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: this for the camera. It's authentic, it's genuine. It's you know, talk,

536
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: don't talk, but we wanted we want to advance or

537
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 4: rehabilitation and sometimes just listening is is doing that even

538
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: though you don't know it in a moment. But but

539
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 4: our team is really good at that, and I'm proud

540
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: of them for that.

541
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: Seems like you guys celebrate Veterans Day not just once

542
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: a year, but every day of the year. You kind

543
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: of recognize that sacrifice that they make to raise their

544
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: hand and say I'll go, you can send me, I'll

545
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: do my best whatever the task is asked of me,

546
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: and then they go and do that, and then they

547
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: need the support of knowing that they went and did

548
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: that because we supported him to go do Oh. Yeah,

549
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: we're so proud of you, Johnny. Go see you later.

550
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: We'll see when you get home. So let's see him

551
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: when he gets home.

552
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. And and you know, that's that's a part that

553
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 4: we've begun to begun to incorporate over the last several years,

554
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: is you know, putting some of our supporters in those situations,

555
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: not a lot, but helping them to hear directly from

556
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 4: the veterans of what they are experiencing and addressing that

557
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 4: very point that you made, which is, hey, you know

558
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: we didn't serve, but you know, Rob rof or you helping.

559
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: How do I say this to try to explain that

560
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 4: in our society, we as civilians sent you off to

561
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: war because the military answers to civilian authority, and that

562
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: civilian authority answers to we the people. And so to

563
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: an extent, you know, we're signing off on that, whether

564
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: it's cheerleading forward on team or not protesting it, or

565
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 4: not requiring a stronger Act of Congress or something like that.

566
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: And so you know, we're we're a part of it too,

567
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: and we have to understand that we can't understand the

568
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: sights and the smells and the fears of combat, but

569
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: we can do our best too. And and so people

570
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 4: who are really invested in us, we try and get

571
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 4: them into those situations so they can hear directly what

572
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 4: the vets are telling us.

573
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see, it would be best to not to

574
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: have to have wars. Yeah, but then you have to

575
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: go and win if you're in the war, because you

576
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: don't want to lose your war per se, as long

577
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: as it's they're all just for the side of the guy.

578
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: There's so many veterans, both sides, equal combat veterans. Whatever

579
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: country is fighting each other. Those those two guys are

580
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: fighting for whatever their cause is, and whatever their cause is,

581
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 3: you know, to the death or to the you know. Yeah, man,

582
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: it's it's tough, you know. So hopefully we don't have

583
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: to have war, but if we do, we gotta we

584
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: got to be winning them inevitably, you know. So you're

585
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: here to support the veteran on either side of that aisle,

586
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 3: it seems like. But if they get disabled, that's even

587
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 3: more so with America's or excuse me, with a Freedom

588
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: Alliance dot org where they would be able to reach

589
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: out to you and get some assistance because it's tough

590
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: to navigate, you know, and you know, especially if you

591
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: might be by yourself and listening to my podcast right

592
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: now and you're just like, geez, you know, I'm so

593
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 3: glad that these two have become friends and started talking

594
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: and I'm going to reach out to Freedom Alliance dot org.

595
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 3: Thanks Rad, you know, and thanks Tom for talking about

596
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: this and explaining that I have someone out there that

597
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: wants to help me. I mean, that's if we help

598
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 3: one person, If somebody can reach out and they get

599
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: helped through this, that's that's what's up. We're just trying

600
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 3: to say, hey, Freedom Alliance dot Org is out there

601
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: for you to reach out to to see if you

602
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 3: qualify to have them help you. Yeah.

603
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 4: And you know, the other thing that we've been trying

604
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: to do in more recent years is there's this, uh,

605
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 4: there's this saying or this this theme that when you

606
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 4: get out of the military, we need to return you

607
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: to civilian life, We need to transition you to being

608
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: back to a civilian again. We reject that we say, no,

609
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 4: that's not the case. So what we say to veterans

610
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 4: is you're a warrior and you're always going to be

611
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: a warrior. The fact that you are no longer in

612
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 4: the military doesn't change that. Now your warrior status might

613
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 4: change a little bit, but you can't undo the training,

614
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: the experiences that you had in the military, Harry and

615
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 4: in combat, So don't try to put them aside. Instead,

616
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: you should embrace them and become what we refer to

617
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 4: as an elder warrior who has wisdom and experiences that

618
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 4: can help the civilian community, that can help policymakers, that

619
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 4: can help all of us understand what they've been through

620
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 4: and how they now have to navigate it being out

621
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 4: of the military. And so that's as it's just a

622
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 4: theme that we hit on more and more as we

623
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: as veterans go through our programs.

624
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're just kind of like cool. I

625
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: think you're cool, bro. I think you're doing a good job,

626
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: and you know, I'd be hard pressed to say otherwise.

627
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: And when you look at the website, you know, it's

628
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: easy to go and check out at Freedom Alliance dot org.

629
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: I just have a link here that Jack sent me earlier,

630
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: and it just goes right to it. I mean, you've

631
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: got a picture of a dude that's operator or gal

632
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: whoever that is on the front. They got the American

633
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 3: flag draped over him. Now let's kind of give it

634
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: a little bit of a like a show off. I

635
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 3: just straight up went to the you know, the app

636
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: while we're talking. It says learn more, and it says, uh,

637
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 3: our mission to advance the American heritage of freedom by honoring,

638
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 3: encouraging military service, defending the sovereignty of the United States,

639
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: and promoting a strong national defense. Our vision a national

640
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 3: security strategy which deters wars that are avoidable, wins wars

641
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: that are inevitable, and never forgets those who go to

642
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: war on our nation's behalf. So you guys have you know,

643
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: solid mission, statement, core values. The whole history there, you guys,

644
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: anybody can look into this and see it's just right here,

645
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: you know, how convenient and yeah, the founder was founded

646
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: by the Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North. Okay, how funny. See,

647
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 3: you know we all know him from being the United

648
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: States Marine colonel Naval Academy graduate, a slew a board

649
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: of directors. So go check out Freedom Alliance and see

650
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: if there is purpose for you to visit with them.

651
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: It's true.

652
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely visit the website Freedom Aliance dot org. Check

653
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: out check us out on Facebook. That's Facebook is where

654
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: we put our most recent accomplishment, So things that we're

655
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: doing and what do we got. So this week we

656
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 4: have a big event coming up because it's the Army

657
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: Navy Game and and so we bring our supporters in

658
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: and have some great speakers and events, and then we

659
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: go to the Army Navy Game and that's a lot

660
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: of fun. If you go to our Facebook page, you'll

661
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 4: see some of our recent accomplishments. We're down in Tampa, Florida,

662
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: what was about two weeks ago, and gave a new

663
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: vehicle to a wounded female marine who it was in

664
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 4: the Milton Police and man checkpoints and man the customs

665
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: desk and did some some pretty extraordinary things for twenty

666
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: one twenty two years old she was at the time.

667
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 4: And a few weeks before that, we gave a mortgage

668
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: free home to a marine who was in the Second

669
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 4: Battle of Fallujah. That home was in Dayton, Ohio and

670
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 4: just a great guy, been through an awful lot. And

671
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 4: and we've had a number of events will be given away,

672
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: some of our alterrain wheelchairs coming up. And and this

673
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: week as we speak, we've got a group of of

674
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 4: service members down in Costa Rica where we have an

675
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: operation to get them out deep sea fishing and do

676
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: all the things that we were just talking about, and

677
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 4: you just you know, have a very really meaningful conversations

678
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: about where they are. And and rather the other thing

679
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 4: I would mention is, you know, obviously, so we're in

680
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 4: we're in the season of advent and and Christmas is

681
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: coming up, and it's a time and year where sometimes

682
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 4: you know, for us as Christians, it's a joyous time

683
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 4: of year. It's a time of anticipation for the birth

684
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 4: of our Lord and and and and so it's fun.

685
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 4: But many people don't have that same experience. They get depressed,

686
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: they get anxious, and and I would just encourage you

687
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: to to reach out to a friend. Uh, use the

688
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 4: nine eight eight number if you need it. Reach out

689
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: to an organization like Freedom Alliance or some of the

690
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: other great military support organizations out there if you need

691
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: somebody to talk to. And what I have seen, I

692
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 4: think the the absolute most heartwarming and effective things is

693
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: when one vet reachs out, reaches out to another. You've

694
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 4: probably seen this rap a lot more than I have.

695
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: I have literally seen a veteran combat veteran take a

696
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: phone call from a friend, a buddy who on the

697
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 4: other end of the phone he's saying, hey, man, I'm

698
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: having a tough time. It's it's getting dark, it's it's

699
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 4: it's hard. And the veteran who's on the receiving end

700
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 4: of that phone call says, I got you. I'll be

701
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: there in a few hours, and he throws a sleeping

702
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 4: bag and a cooler in the back of the truck

703
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: and drives, you know, five eight ten hours to wherever

704
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 4: he needs to be and spends the next two days

705
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 4: or two weeks with that person until they get through

706
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 4: that dark time. And that is it's unfortunate that it

707
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: has to happen, but it's a beautiful thing that's take

708
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: care of one another in that way.

709
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is nice. And you know, I'm not

710
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: trying to just say this, but like, you know, I

711
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 3: have had folks reach out to me through social media's

712
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: and you know, I've had personal friends come up to

713
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: me with you know, hardcore Like I looked at him

714
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: in the eyes and I was like, I hope you

715
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: didn't try to do what I think you did. You know,

716
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: don't and if you if you ever think that way,

717
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: And then he's like, rad I did try earlier this year,

718
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 3: and now I'm in therapy and all this stuff. And

719
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: I could just see this, like under his eyes right here,

720
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 3: that he was just going through a hard time. And

721
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: so I told him that I loved him, and he

722
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 3: hugged me. And it had been a minute since we

723
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: had seen each other, and I said, well, now you're

724
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: here and I'm always around, and now I can be

725
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: helping you with your therapy. So if you need to

726
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 3: be in a good place, just be around me, because like,

727
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: and he's you know, he's welcome to be anytime if

728
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: he has to call me, hit me up whatever, you know.

729
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: And now that he's back in Utah, it's great to

730
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: have him around.

731
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 4: And whose spirits wouldn't be lifted by hanging around you

732
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 4: with that great Christmas hat and big smile.

733
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 3: It's true. And so he was so happy, you know,

734
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 3: and you know, and I'm six foot five, he's about

735
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 3: five foot six, So a hug is really like, come here,

736
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: my man, you need to full big bear hug from RAD.

737
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 4: Right, we don't need anymore.

738
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: Right, let me know. My service is available. I can

739
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: get Okay, you just let me know Freedom, Alliance and

740
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: RAD we've just collapsed. Okay, all right, we need a

741
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 3: shirt that shows that or something. Somebody out there make

742
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: it happen.

743
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 4: You're gonna hug it out.

744
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes someone that can just take some of your pain.

745
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 3: You know, my mom was so good at doing that.

746
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: I would be like, how come you never like, Oh,

747
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 3: She's like I always do need a hug, And I'm

748
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: like here, you know, because she would always be the

749
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 3: ones that we'd go to, So be like.

750
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 4: Mom, Absolutely, it's yeah, it's just a great thing to see.

751
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 4: And I've seen it a lot.

752
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: And and we don't want We can tell you that

753
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 3: we love you. We can tell you that you mean

754
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: something to us, and hopefully that helps helps you and

755
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 3: your decisions to make your choices. I'm a big believer

756
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: in freedom of choice. There's only so much I can do.

757
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: There's only so much we can do for somebody until

758
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: they they have to do it themselves. To show up

759
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: and go to the gym, you have to take your

760
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: pills at night, you have to fill out that paperwork

761
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: and get it submitted on time. You have to do

762
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 3: those things. It's up to you to follow through. So

763
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: you know, I can just let you know that I

764
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: encourage you to be supportive. I want you to be successful,

765
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 3: and I love you and care about you. You should

766
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 3: know that. And if that helps you get you through

767
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: your next day so that you can go through the

768
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: same things. Hey, hang around me. That's my work hanging. Okay. Now,

769
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: all you hardcore pipe hitters out there that are listening

770
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: to this that are smiling because you are too, and

771
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: you had to go perform a job and a duty

772
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: above yourself, you know, reach out to Freedom Alliance dot

773
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: org and see again if you can get some help

774
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: from them. And you know I've had I've had Tom's time.

775
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: You know, we've had We've listened to if we talk

776
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: for about an hour about this, and you guys should

777
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: hear that. It's just really you have to reach out

778
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: and you have to follow through, and you have to

779
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: take care of you because no one loves you more

780
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: than you. It's you. So you got to take care

781
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: of you. And so you have to reach out if

782
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: you have some questions or you want to reach out

783
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: to me, I'm on Instagram rad Rockin' r A D

784
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: R O c K I N send me a message.

785
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: I've gotten them. My wife's like, who are you talking

786
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: to about this? And I'm like, I don't know, babe,

787
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: I'm just laying to bed. But I think they just

788
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: need someone to talk to, and I'm just gonna go

789
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 3: with it. It doesn't seem like he's asking for twenty

790
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: million dollars to Nigeria, so I'm gonna like kind of

791
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: like play the cards here that this person has reached out.

792
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: So there you go, simple as that, Yes, and go

793
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: buy my merch. Don't forget soft reap dot com forward

794
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 3: slash merch, Merch, Merch, Merch, merch, merch. Okay, it keeps

795
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: the fireplace going. And shout out to my dad, who's

796
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: who was one hundred percent disabled until he's no longer here.

797
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: And I was able to have access to the school

798
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: benefits as a young nineteen years old. And you know,

799
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: I would encourage anybody whose father or mother has put

800
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 3: themselves in that position to get them one hundred percent

801
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: rating to follow through with the schooling. Don't take it

802
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: for granted, but take it for granted. Okay, use it

803
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: it's there and you're able to if you are for

804
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: like twenty four, you can get like your degree as

805
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 3: long as you're living at home. Man, you got school,

806
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: get on it. You know this. He's not an agree,

807
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: it's he's like, yep, it's true. And don't just sit

808
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: in the parking lot. Going to college doesn't mean you

809
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: just sit in the parking lot. Because you went to college.

810
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 3: You got to get out and walk to class. Okay,

811
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: you got to go do it. You got to get

812
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: a C. You got to get a C or higher.

813
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 3: They want their money back. Okay, so make sure you

814
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 3: get your c's because c's get those degrees. All right.

815
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 3: Now that said more time rant over.

816
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 4: I mean what you know, what you're saying is real,

817
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: rad It's it is the message. Because a lot of

818
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 4: people say, well you knowledge these days, it's this, it's that.

819
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 4: It's you get a lot of complaints about it. But

820
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: if you look back and you say, it's personal responsibility.

821
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 4: I'm going to go and I'm going to study what

822
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 4: I want to study. I'm going to take the good

823
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 4: subjects and I'm going to you know, putting the time

824
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 4: and effort. Then you're going to get something out of it.

825
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 4: If you're going to go there and sit in class

826
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 4: and be led astray or in directions that you don't

827
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 4: want to go, that's on you. But you know, there's

828
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 4: there's a lot of these kids whose parents sacrifice for

829
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 4: this country, who have hopes and dreams and aspirations of

830
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 4: their own, and we're just really just really fortunate to

831
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 4: be able to help them achieve them. And it's fun

832
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 4: to see. You know, I'm in a situation now where

833
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 4: students who we helped go to school, you know, fifteen

834
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: twenty years ago, now they're getting married and they're inviting

835
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 4: me to their ways and things like that, and it's

836
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: it's just it's a beautiful thing to know that you've

837
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: impacted them enough that they think of you in that way.

838
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: It's great.

839
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: I mean, thirty homes, thirty million dollars worth of scholarships,

840
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 3: so many you know, retreats and fish caught and stories

841
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: to be told and prayers to have been had, and

842
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 3: you know, you've been doing this for a minute around

843
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: the sun, so circling, you know, with I feel selfless spirit.

844
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 3: So keep keep it up. Keep it up. Yes, losing

845
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: your team and to your producers and to the people

846
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: behind the scenes that help you get lit up and

847
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: making you look good and get your sound going. Big

848
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 3: shout out to them too for being a part of

849
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: your team. Right. So, and to jam who linked us

850
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 3: up to say, hey, let's get let's get Tom on

851
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 3: with rad. You'll see they'll match. And I'm going to

852
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: talk to Callum, my producer, and see if we can

853
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: get this up before Christmas, because I got the hat

854
00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: on to see. Okay, every jolly yeah.

855
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: Well, you know Christmas is a season, so it runs

856
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 4: well into January.

857
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, my pumpkins on my ports are still there from

858
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: October because November was harvest and you know, now it's

859
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: time I got to take them up to the mountains

860
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: and drop them off for snowboarding.

861
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: Feed the movie since since you mentioned I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: your fireplace and it looks like you've got a pumpkin

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Speaker 4: in there the way it Oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see. Yeah, No, I here in Utah.

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Speaker 3: You know, we just got some snow last night. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to go enjoy it tomorrow morning. So yeah, you're great.

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Speaker 3: You're great. And and to my listener that's been listening

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Speaker 3: with us for the last hour of laughing and going on,

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Speaker 3: are these two talking about we're talking about Freedom Alliance

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Speaker 3: dot org and how you can reach out to them

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Speaker 3: if you are in a high rated you know, disability

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Speaker 3: with your veteran status through the VA reach out and

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Speaker 3: even if you have a disability or something from the

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Speaker 3: you know, military, reach out and see if they can

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Speaker 3: still help you. They might be able to point you

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Speaker 3: in the right direction or say hey, they'll look at

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Speaker 3: the facts versus what the VA rated you asked. So

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Speaker 3: Freedom Alliance listen to the president. Tom killed Gannon and

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Speaker 3: I have had the pleasure to talk with and now

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Speaker 3: become acquaintances and friends with. And you know, if you're

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Speaker 3: ever in Utah and you want to check out the slopes,

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Speaker 3: just hit me up. We'll do It's that simple. And

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Speaker 3: again please check out our book club. 'tis the season

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Speaker 3: and like he said, the season goes on. Let's just

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Speaker 3: make it all year of kindness because it's contagious, so

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Speaker 3: let's keep it up. And my name is rad On

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Speaker 3: behalf of my guest Tom kill Gannon with Freedom Alliance

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Speaker 3: dot org and Soft Rep. I say peace. Thanks anytime.

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Speaker 2: You listening to self Rep.

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Speaker 4: Lady