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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen.

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Speaker 2: Are hot, you know.

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Speaker 3: Now, I was Downtown club and ladies night. See Shorty.

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Speaker 3: She was crazy, right, and I approached baby like, man,

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Speaker 3: what's your age of type? She looked at me and said,

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Speaker 3: you's a baby right. I told her, I'm eighteen and

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Speaker 3: eighties like, and I know what the ladies like.

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Speaker 4: A Welcome to the Black Autils podcast, which y'alls Rod

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Speaker 4: and Aaron, and Uh, this is a very special day.

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Speaker 4: It's a Sunday, Yes it is. It's the second day

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Speaker 4: for Walking Ahead, coming back for the second half of

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Speaker 4: the season. Yes, it's the NBA All Star Game. And

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Speaker 4: we have a very special guest that everybody knows and loves.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like you guys should be familiar with

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Speaker 4: her voice as soon as it came in.

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Speaker 5: Uh, it's our girl, ray Sonny.

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Right? Hi, guys? Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 4: Wow, thank you for coming on you you know.

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Speaker 2: What, ray Sonny.

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Speaker 6: I feel like a I can say it like a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Talker when it comes to you really, And the reason

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Speaker 1: why I said it because I listened to so many podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and so never I hear you on the podcast, I

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Speaker 6: I'm like happy for you. I'm like yay Raysnny, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm like i'ma have a good time because I heard

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Speaker 1: you on a two Dope Queens and I'm yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was so happy for you. So I feel like I'm like,

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That means a lot to me. I listened to you

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Speaker 3: guys like I'm an actual fan. I listen to you

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Speaker 3: guys like every every day. Although I'm too behind because

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Speaker 3: I had so much work to do, uh this week,

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Speaker 3: so I didn't catch you guys. I don't think Tuesday on.

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Speaker 3: But I do listen to everything. It's like you and

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Speaker 3: Nick and Reggie. Yeah, because of you guys that I

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Speaker 4: But well, you know that's what I'm saying. Man, it's February.

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Speaker 4: It's black history, monk. It's a mutual love fest up

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Speaker 4: in here. Really, you know, actually, uh, you know, for

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Speaker 4: people to listen to Balls Deep. I actually squashed the

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Speaker 4: beef with Frank yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I came over to him at the end of the

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Speaker 4: day and I said, hey, man, it's black History mom

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Speaker 4: I said, hey, man, it don't even matter. I want

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Speaker 3: Said all right, so, because he can't be having beef

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Speaker 5: So I was like, Frank, let's get over it, man.

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Speaker 5: I said, I'm over it. I don't know about you.

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Speaker 4: I said I've been over it, but I hope you

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Speaker 4: But what's We'll see next.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. But I'm just saying trying to in the spirit

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Speaker 2: But I'm very proud of your MLK esque spirit.

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Speaker 3: And this is the non violence that he was actually

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Speaker 3: talking about white people platitudes like let him eat you

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Speaker 4: Next week, me and Frank gonna combine on some undercutting

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Speaker 5: But right, we've been up to you, man, it's been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a while. So I was trying to

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Speaker 2: So that's good. Just getting booked a lot, writing a.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, We're a good time.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna Yeah, she's a good kind, she hates the

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Speaker 3: And I don't know, just auditioning and writing and.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like, uh, you know, I feel like,

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Speaker 4: put so much pressure on yourself sometimes where it's like

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Speaker 4: I was like, Ray, you you are fucking killing it.

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Speaker 4: There's so many people that are like jealous of you

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Speaker 4: but but then it's always like and that's I think

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Speaker 2: Was like, I'm chasing me another media. But yeah, you know, you're.

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Speaker 3: Totally right about that. Like there's always a part of

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Speaker 3: And also one of my friends in comedy, this is

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Speaker 2: She was just like eyes on your own paper.

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Speaker 3: You're not allowed to look at other people's taps.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying not to care what other people are doing.

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Speaker 2: And I do feel really free.

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Speaker 3: I do, And I think part of it is just

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Speaker 2: That I don't feel like I'm running in place.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm so worried because i was

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Speaker 1: That's really I can see you somebody asking you, and

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Speaker 4: I know, like that's that's how Christina argues.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people would love to say, speak

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Speaker 4: Right, you only did you only did twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 4: I just show up. I'm the talent, now, Okay. That's

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Speaker 4: And also I see you like writing like reviews and

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Speaker 3: So I've been writing America's Next Top Model, which is

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Speaker 3: I'd just be going on these rants on Facebook or

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Speaker 2: So like I'm like trying to wait till five thousand friends.

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Speaker 2: But on Twitter it doesn't feel like that at all.

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Speaker 3: You sort of write these things that you do want

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Speaker 4: You know, it's weird because like you like, you do

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Speaker 4: It's filters, Yeah, they got really good privacy filters and

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Speaker 4: it definitely is like go straight to the drama, you

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Speaker 3: Zero one zero one, go zero one zero one.

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Speaker 4: It's always it's like, uh, it'll just be like two

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Speaker 3: That way, if they are secret racists, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 4: Like in my mom like, how are Ray and this

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Speaker 6: Ray, does I start looking going, Am I your Friendsure?

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Speaker 3: But you'd be surprised at how many of like how

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Speaker 3: And so it's interesting to me that people think that

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, nah, man, I've probably considered every angle,

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Speaker 2: You considered, And it's like, yeah, because black women know

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Speaker 4: I think it's impossible pretty much to be a black

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Speaker 4: I wanted to take this right, Like it's really not that,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but the thing is like sometimes though, like

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Speaker 3: no black girls on that yacht, so his world has

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Speaker 3: no curve.

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Speaker 7: Ye.

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Speaker 3: I just thought that that was like the funniest fucking thing.

442
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Speaker 3: So so I posted it and I was.

443
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Speaker 2: Like, oh, not these white girls is gonna get me static.

444
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Speaker 2: But nobody said anything, which I was very surprised about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I feel like at some point they just learned.

447
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually a couple of white girls were like, yeah, praise

449
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Speaker 3: hands whatever.

450
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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well, white women love my sister.

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Speaker 2: Good to know.

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Speaker 6: That that is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: One thing to kind of backtrack a little bit when

454
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Speaker 1: you were talking about self promotion, something I wanted to

455
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Speaker 1: say directly to you is that for some reason, women,

456
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Speaker 1: particularly black women, have a have They think something's wrong

457
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Speaker 1: with self promoting yourself. They think self promoting yourself is

458
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Speaker 1: too your own horn, or saying I'm the best and

459
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Speaker 1: I'm the greatest. The thing is you are, and so

460
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Speaker 1: what's wrong with saying, hey, I'm the best, I'm the greatest.

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Speaker 6: Look at me.

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Speaker 1: I got some sell I got something to because you

463
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Speaker 1: know what, men never had that issue.

464
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Speaker 2: A man.

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Speaker 1: The man will come out be like, yeah, I gotta

466
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Speaker 1: show tonight. Dog, we're doing a cotton festival for my kids.

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Speaker 6: I don't care. I want you to know. I got

468
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Speaker 6: to show the night at eight.

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Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck. But for some reason, women

470
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Speaker 1: have to sit back, be considering, be lady like, consider

471
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Speaker 1: your feelings, you know, be concerned about you saying no.

472
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Speaker 1: Dudes get told no a lot when they come to

473
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Speaker 1: their ship, but you know what they do, They keep

474
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Speaker 1: promoting their ship because the world has told them the

475
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Speaker 1: world is yours to conquer. Yeah, y all don't tell

476
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Speaker 1: women that the world is yours to conquer and it

477
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Speaker 1: literally is.

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Speaker 6: So Uh.

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Speaker 1: The thing is a lot of times women were talking

480
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Speaker 1: about your fan page. Women will sit back and let

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Speaker 1: shiit sit for years out of fucking fear. Make your

482
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Speaker 1: fan page, and there's nothing stopping you from doing that.

483
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Speaker 6: Make it.

484
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Speaker 1: Make your fan page. You can be your own worst enemy.

485
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Speaker 1: A lot of times, you can stop your own progress.

486
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Speaker 1: You can stop your own success. You can you can stop.

487
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Speaker 1: You can stop yourself from reaching your goal by putting.

488
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Speaker 6: Change on yourself. Did nobody put that? But you put

489
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Speaker 6: these chains on yourself.

490
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Speaker 2: You put these restrictions. You do these.

491
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Speaker 1: Lines to say I can only go but so far.

492
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Speaker 1: Nobody came to you and said you couldn't do it.

493
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Speaker 1: You said yourself, I couldn't go but so far. But

494
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Speaker 1: a lot of that is the fear that women have

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Speaker 1: of being judged once across certain lines. But the thing is,

496
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Speaker 1: once you get to a certain point as a woman,

497
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Speaker 1: regardless of what race you are, you got to say,

498
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Speaker 1: fuck what men think about me?

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Speaker 4: So what?

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Speaker 6: I got pimples?

501
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 4: So what?

502
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Speaker 6: I'm not the perfect shape?

503
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Speaker 4: So what?

504
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Speaker 6: My skin is not right?

505
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Speaker 2: So what?

506
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Speaker 6: My hair is not right.

507
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Speaker 1: You have got to get to the point where you've

508
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Speaker 1: got to shed the patriarchy that society has put on us.

509
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Speaker 1: Because the thing is, in my mind rate it's just

510
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Speaker 1: me directly talking to you. I think you a star,

511
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Speaker 1: And don't allow yourself to dimmer your light.

512
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 6: Because you're too scared for the light to be on you.

513
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Speaker 6: This is something you deserve.

514
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Speaker 1: You worked hard for this. And the thing is, what

515
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Speaker 1: if you put the society tells us, if you put

516
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Speaker 1: the work in, you will be rewarded.

517
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Speaker 4: Men follow that rule.

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Speaker 1: Society tells women if you put the work in, you

519
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Speaker 1: may and may not get rewarded. Or if you put

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Speaker 1: the work in, some man has got to get credit

521
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Speaker 1: for your work, and hopefully he'll drag you aloan so

522
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Speaker 1: that you can get credit for your fucking work instead

523
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Speaker 1: of you stepping out say nah, big fuck.

524
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Speaker 6: That I did the work. I wonte the accolades, I

525
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Speaker 6: wonte the praise.

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Speaker 1: I am here and everybody else in the room is

527
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Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with it.

528
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Speaker 4: And that's why he kick cats the way I do.

529
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Speaker 4: You don't need to let people put you in the

530
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Speaker 4: box and hold yourself back exactly, carry exactly.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking about.

532
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Speaker 3: You looking like all kinds of savage when you did that.

533
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Speaker 4: By the way, I'm just saying, that's that's the exact

534
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 4: mentality I have right there.

535
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Speaker 2: So yeah, on black crime.

536
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Speaker 4: Then he just I.

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Speaker 6: Know you, like, how should I respond?

538
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Speaker 1: And something else that I've learned to I don't do

539
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Speaker 1: this because I know you're saying you're trying to get

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Speaker 1: the word stupid.

541
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Speaker 6: Out your forcabulary. I'm just I'm your stupid.

542
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Speaker 1: I understand what you're trying to do. Something I've learned

543
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: from Elon James White.

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Speaker 6: Instead of using the words stupid, use dangerous.

545
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Speaker 1: And if you use that word in the place a

546
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Speaker 1: lot of times, it will have.

547
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Speaker 6: A deeper meaning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't believe in that, Like I don't either,

549
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Speaker 4: because like I mean, smart and everything, I don't believe

550
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Speaker 4: in that. But also I don't.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes, like there is there are things that are.

552
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Speaker 3: Both stupid and dangerous, But like what do you use

553
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Speaker 3: for the things that are just stupid?

554
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Speaker 5: Right, That's what I've been saying.

555
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Speaker 4: I mean, like, but but stupid is a word for

556
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Speaker 4: a reason, like.

557
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because like sometimes what they'll say is dangerous. Like

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Speaker 3: I got into an argument with this guy who was

559
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Speaker 3: saying that, you know, me being excited the bachelorette is black?

560
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Speaker 2: Is uh? Is you know need grow bad wenches.

561
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Speaker 3: Because because you know, like it sounds like I'm thirsty

562
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 3: for white proof. I was like, I didn't mention anything

563
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: about white white people like you did, and he was like, well,

564
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: I said people, not men.

565
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Speaker 2: I said the.

566
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: Bachelorette is a heteroxual dating show. So if the person

567
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Speaker 3: is never mind you is stupid, you're right, that's not dangerous.

568
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Speaker 2: But he said the bad Wench part is dangerous. But

569
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Speaker 2: the saying, well you narrowed people.

570
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Speaker 3: To men, it's stupid because the show is men courting

571
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Speaker 3: a woman.

572
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Speaker 4: Right and then and at the end of the day, man,

573
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Speaker 4: whatever word I pick is a placeholder for stupid. I'm

574
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Speaker 4: just letting down so like, I mean that you are stupid.

575
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Speaker 4: Like I might pick like, oh well that does not

576
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Speaker 4: meet my intelligence quotes, but I really just mean this

577
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Speaker 4: ship was stupid that you just said.

578
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Speaker 1: I might go to the thesaurus, but you know, if

579
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: you go look that worad up, it's gonna be stupid

580
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Speaker 1: something I'm not.

581
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Speaker 5: I don't owe you kindness, motherfucker.

582
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Speaker 4: You stupid and.

583
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 5: Plus stupid for the most part, is something.

584
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Speaker 4: You can change. Like it's not even like I don't

585
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 4: feel no responsibility to like cut to hold your feelings

586
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: because you literally could go get informed and be like,

587
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: well now I'm no longer stupid on this topic. I

588
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 4: have learned things, So like, how's the onus on me

589
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 4: to be nice to you about your.

590
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Speaker 3: Stupid But if you get to the point where you're

591
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 3: publicly arguing with somebody over something and you haven't informed yourself,

592
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: You're likely not going.

593
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Speaker 4: To exactly I mean, which is why that it takes.

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Speaker 3: The errogance that it takes to be like uninformed and

595
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Speaker 3: decide that you're gonna argue with a stranger about the

596
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: topic that's not a correct you know.

597
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Speaker 2: What I mean?

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, And that is why I love the word stupid,

599
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 4: and it's why it's also why I love curse words.

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00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: It's expedient. It saves me time. I'm a busy person.

601
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 4: I'm normally multitasking anyway. It's much easier to be like, well,

602
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 4: that is stupid and then be like, y'all figure it out,

603
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Speaker 4: Like so, you know, matter of fact, let me introduce

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before you move on, he was talking about why

629
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Speaker 1: you use certain words.

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Speaker 6: For me, this is why.

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Speaker 1: I love nigga because when I use the word nigga,

632
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: nigga is a person, place, a thing, is the is

633
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 1: the adverb. Nigga can mean many many things. I can

634
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Speaker 1: say nigger and just the tone of the way I

635
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: say certain things everybody understands, and like when I use nigga,

636
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Speaker 1: I use it across the board like a lot of times,

637
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: race does not even matter because I just want you

638
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Speaker 1: to know how I feel about things.

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Speaker 6: But I use that like I mean, I use nigger.

640
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Speaker 6: How you use that word?

641
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Speaker 2: Yah? Well?

642
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like nigga is like one of my favorite words.

643
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Speaker 3: It's like one of my friends was, you should run

644
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Speaker 3: for politician.

645
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: And I was like, I say nigga too much.

646
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Speaker 4: And like I'm not gonna stop. You know what I'm saying,

647
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Speaker 4: Like more importantly is like I don't want to stop.

648
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Speaker 4: So like I'm definitely gonna be the first person that never,

649
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Speaker 4: you know, what I'm saying get elected, because in the debate,

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Speaker 4: I would definitely say nigga to somebody, like I don't

651
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Speaker 4: care that this on National TV when Paul.

652
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Speaker 3: Ryan lies, You're like this nigga, r's there for a debate.

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Speaker 4: Black people would be so hot with me, so hot

654
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Speaker 4: with me.

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Speaker 1: Correct people, Yes, they get to they get to argue

656
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Speaker 1: with me, but like nigga, you lying, don't nobody to

657
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Speaker 1: give a fuck about the kids in Chicago.

658
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Speaker 6: Why are we talking about this right now?

659
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, Van Jones Don Lemon like, it's like

660
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Speaker 4: one thing that all the niggas that got cable shows

661
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Speaker 4: can agree on is not to be saying niggas well.

662
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: What the one thing that Larry what's his name not

663
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: Larry Michael has been has redeemed all of his stupid

664
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: opinions in the time since.

665
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: For me, it's that.

666
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: Clip of him on ESPN being like, my, nigga, I'm

667
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: glad you said that.

668
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: Yes, he was like, yes, I say it, like he

669
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: didn't give a fuck. I love it. I love that.

670
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about news guys. Okay, now, actually,

671
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: before I even start the news, let me ask Ray,

672
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: because we can do this tomorrow, we don't have to

673
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: do this today. But Ray, how do you feel about Beyonce?

674
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: If I were to, if we were to stand out

675
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 4: on Beyonce for a couple of minutes, would you be

676
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 4: able to handle it?

677
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 5: Are you one of.

678
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: Those like I don't really funk with Beyonce black women?

679
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: No, I'm not like I don't fuck with Beyonce woman.

680
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: I also admit that I'm one.

681
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: Of these people that over praise stresses me out, and

682
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: I guess sometimes like when I see people who don't

683
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: make stuff celebrate excessively things that other people make.

684
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: It kind of bothers me because I'm like, go make something.

685
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: You're just as powerful, you know, But I don't. The

686
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: thing about Beyonce is I like her. I just don't

687
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: like her to the extent that other people do. But

688
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: I appreciate what she does. I just don't like that

689
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 3: my criticism is met with an over the top reaction

690
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: because they do see their valid criticisms of her. But

691
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: then there's also like there's this thing that happens that

692
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: even if I don't like something she did, now I have.

693
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: To defend it because white people get crazy.

694
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah that's like, well, I want to talk about these

695
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: white people getting crazy and you know this make drift

696
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 4: into hyperbole.

697
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

698
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: I just want to make sure because you know, we

699
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: can do it tomorrow. I don't want you to feel

700
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: like pressure.

701
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: To do it, because feel any pressure?

702
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 4: All right? Cool?

703
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: Well, my best friends are like beyond say stands Like,

704
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this writer from MTV

705
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: News Ira he's like the biggest uh Ira Magic. Yeah,

706
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: he's the biggest. He's like he's the biggest Beyonce stan ever.

707
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: And like he drags me in messages daily when I

708
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: don't show nearly enough enthusiasm. So I'm not worried about you.

709
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 6: We won't do that, but I do love me some

710
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 6: Beyonce baby.

711
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: All Right, I'm about to play. Now you won't be

712
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 4: able to hear it on Skype. It's only gonna take

713
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: like thirty seconds. But I gotta play our sound effect

714
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: for the heart attack, okay, because it's like a whole

715
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: thing and a whole segment, and I'm mad as fuck,

716
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: to be quite honest.

717
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 6: So's going.

718
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: With that.

719
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: All right, let's go ahead and get into it.

720
00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 6: Do it.

721
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: So it's a heart attack, So for some let's talk

722
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: about some some beance. So there's several things that came

723
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: up with would be over the last uh week or so.

724
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: Everybody knows, you know, she announced her pregnancy uh to

725
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: with her twins.

726
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 5: That was like two weeks ago. Man, it's only been

727
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 5: two or three weeks.

728
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: That was like the like the first day of Black

729
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 4: History mom and black people were getting a life, and

730
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: we were all laughing and happy for her and ship

731
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 4: like that, and and and it was a genuinely good time,

732
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 4: I think, you know. And of course that meant she

733
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: needed to be taken down a peg, and so did

734
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 4: all of us. So so since then, white people have

735
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: lost their motherfucking mine, specifically white women, And I think

736
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 4: a lot of that is because you know, she really

737
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: quote unquote intrudes on their space with her, you know,

738
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: the reverence of motherhood, the reverence of like being treated

739
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 4: like a goddess quote unquote, uh, the the fact that

740
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: people just like praise her, and the fact that you

741
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 4: know she lost that Grammy. Everybody's like, man, that's cause

742
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: y'all niggas be racist, and they are like, we don't

743
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 4: want to hear that shit either. So it's just been

744
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 4: like Basicus of Becky's trying to take her down for

745
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 4: like a couple of weeks now, it's been It's been

746
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 4: a lot, right, So let's talk about some Carly Klass

747
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 4: confused Beyonce with TLC.

748
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 6: Your whole group?

749
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

750
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 4: Yeah? Counting my blessings on this first day of the

751
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: New year, Feeling very grateful for everyone I had the

752
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 4: privilege of working with in twenty sixteen, Grateful for all

753
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 4: six million of you, Excited for all head on twenty seventeen.

754
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 4: So much love and happy New year and then she

755
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: that was like her Instagram post or whatever. And then

756
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 4: later she put to uh what she put She puts

757
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: something about I think what?

758
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, she is a soundtrack to my life.

759
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 4: Did she referenced TLC's waterfalls? She was Beyonce was thirteen

760
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 4: when waterfalls was the least.

761
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: Famous travels around.

762
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so she she had like a picture or something.

763
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 4: She says Calie Clauk. I love Desney's Child singing waterfalls

764
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: on the soundtrack for Oh Wait no this is this

765
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 4: is somebody?

766
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 5: This is somebody joking her.

767
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: I love Desney Child singing waterfalls on the soundtrack for

768
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 4: Hitting Fences. I told her beyond Yeah she had so

769
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: it was like this thing she wrote. It's a cute

770
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: little note and it's like name. Karli Klaus Age twenty four,

771
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: Smiley face, Who are you the biggest fan of Beyonce

772
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: since when? Dessy Child twenty two thousand and three. What

773
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: first attracted you to to you? To her swag, her swag,

774
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 4: her confidence, her smile and kindness. What's your favorite thing

775
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: about them? Her creativity? What's your favorite family?

776
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: Isn't that a little late for Destiny's Child?

777
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: Two thousand and three? Yeah, that's a little late, yeah, because.

778
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: We were in when I first heard them.

779
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in college.

780
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's two thousand and three is late, like you know,

781
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: ninety nine is maybe like ninety eight or so.

782
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird.

783
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: Okay, late past, right, exactly late past. So she says,

784
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: how have they influenced your life? She is a soundtrack

785
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 4: of my life, come on Waterfalls? So of course people

786
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 4: was clowning.

787
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, you know that really really famous Bob I

788
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: wanted to bag.

789
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: You know, favorite song, Red Light Special, You remember that one?

790
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, this had Cali Claus thinks Waterfalls by Beyonce? What

791
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 4: the fuck did she think? To Killer Mock and Bird?

792
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 5: Her favorite book is about I Wonder.

793
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 3: The guy name is Uncle Tom and he's.

794
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 4: It's so good.

795
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 5: It's so good, It's so good.

796
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 8: Uh.

797
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 4: Clange fired some shots at the Grammys after, you know,

798
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 4: Beyonce lost, Yeah.

799
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 6: Because she to buy hooked them like to be cute.

800
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 6: I'm not about being cute.

801
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, like what be saying? Flawless?

802
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 5: Even sister taught me to speak my mom, you know.

803
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it's so h like it's so relevant like

804
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 4: this last like since Formation dropped, Like oh, it's it's

805
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 4: almost like foreshadow. It's like, oh, that's it, because then

806
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: like once Solange dropped, it's like, so that's what you mean.

807
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 5: Taught you to speak like okay, because Solana don't give

808
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 5: a fuck.

809
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, she.

810
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: Never has though, right never. I love it.

811
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: The thing about it, Beyonce, though I might not publicly

812
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: say nothing to you, but you know what, you can

813
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: get a song about it.

814
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 4: She's still a nigga from Houston. Though, I think it

815
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: gets lost like and you know, I'll go into it

816
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 4: in a second, but it's like it gets lost in

817
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: the sauce that because I think she's so meticulous about

818
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 4: her image that people find like, well, she must just

819
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: be really shallow and vapid, and she must not think

820
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: about things, she must not say shit, and and I

821
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: think that.

822
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: Part is really insulting, right, Yeah, that part of it

823
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: is insulting.

824
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: There's this thing that people do where they go.

825
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: Well, Beyonce, he didn't write that or right, And I'm like, well,

826
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 3: all the credit that you people know how to give

827
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: CEOs who don't get down in the dirt of creating

828
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: whatever policy at their company, but you credit them with

829
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: the proper delegation skills, Like even if fiance didn't, you know,

830
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: create didn't write everything, or didn't herself go out and

831
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: pick out the veil that she grow over her head,

832
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: she had the vision to do so, and she delegated properly.

833
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: And it's such an insult of like the black lady mind.

834
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 4: Especially when we don't like that, especially when you're not

835
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: leveling it in everybody right, Like no.

836
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: I also noticed that that is targeted too, Like I'm like,

837
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 3: you know who also didn't write their own music?

838
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: Literally every singer.

839
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: In like every diva, every singer that you're obsessed with,

840
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Whitney Houston write anything, and we don't ever

841
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: level back criticism against her, and we don't talk about

842
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: how Mariah didn't really write her own stuff until more.

843
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: Recently, and she still does that in collaboration with.

844
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 3: Other people or even people like Diana Ross, Like they

845
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: all had writers and producers behind them, and that's not

846
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: to you know, take away any credit for them, because ultimately,

847
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: when you are a creative person, your stamp is on

848
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: whatever you do, even if you get assistance. The idea

849
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 3: that Beyonce is the first person who didn't write everything

850
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: by yourself is a nonsense kind of creation.

851
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: So Solange, you know, not to be trifled with. She

852
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 4: sided with Frank Ocean because like after the Gray, after

853
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 4: the Grammy's I think she tweeted something like shout out

854
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 4: the Frank Ocean or something like that, because Frank Ocea

855
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: said he wasn't going because he was basically like, what's

856
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 4: the point of participating and entertaining these people and performing

857
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 4: when they don't respect our music? You know, So I'm

858
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: not going up there anymore, even though he had dropped

859
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: that album it was so anticipated, like he just doesn't

860
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 4: feel like black artists get the respect they deserve from

861
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 4: the Grammy. So what's the point.

862
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: Well, I wonder.

863
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: I wonder though, like when stuff like that is said,

864
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: because when the Oscars got accused of like not being representative,

865
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: they were humiliated.

866
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: They were really embarrassed. And I'm very curious as to why.

867
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: The Grammys doesn't seem to be because when the winner

868
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: of your biggest award says she doesn't deserve it and

869
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: spends like.

870
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 2: Most of their most of her.

871
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: Her time on the on the stage, like praising the

872
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: other artists in the category, like why aren't they humiliated?

873
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: That's that's what's confusing to me.

874
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, it's not the first time either.

875
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: I don't understand why that's so, why they're so stick

876
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: to their guns about it.

877
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: They don't even like purport to make changes.

878
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 4: It's weird because I feel I feel like in a

879
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: lot of cases people do the work for the Grammys

880
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 4: more so than for the Oscars. Like the Oscars so white,

881
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: they blew up so much that I think they couldn't

882
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 4: even say anything. And because the Oscars doesn't have a

883
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 4: category of like urban something, they can't even like funnel

884
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: it off into like Best Urban Movie or whatever. So

885
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: they really do have like this very white award platform

886
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 4: where no black people even have a category to be recognized.

887
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 4: The Grammys have been able to filter that shit out

888
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: to like Kanye's won twenty one Grammys. While y'all saying

889
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: we're racist, it's like He's won twenty one Urban Grammys,

890
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: like people like It's definitely some card shuffling right there.

891
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, anyway, so Solon says she tweeted this, then

892
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 4: I think she deleted.

893
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: There have only been two black winners in the last

894
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: twenty years.

895
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: For Album of a Year, there have been over two

896
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: hundred black artists who are performed. Uh crazy. She put

897
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 4: create your own communities, build your institutions to give your

898
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 4: friends awards, awards yourself, and be the gold you want

899
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: to be my g's And she put a rose emoji.

900
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 4: Then and then there was a rumor about while Beyonce

901
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 4: didn't win Album of the Year, which was they felt

902
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 4: she was trying to game the system by having songs

903
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: in different categories, so you know you have she can't.

904
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 3: Have possibly just wanted to make different kinds of science apparently.

905
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 4: Uh this is from b seats on Twitter. Uh, just

906
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: so everyone is clear about the ship showed happened at

907
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 4: the Grammy's last night. That Academy had an actual meeting

908
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 4: accusing Beyonce or trying to quote unquote game the system

909
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: by dipping into several genres such.

910
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 5: As country, blues and rock and on lemonade.

911
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: And that is very much the reason they little latently

912
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 4: disrespected her. The New York Times Wild, The New York

913
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: Times go ahead.

914
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: Heard, sorry, that's as crazy. You had a meeting about it,

915
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: a meeting. Why can't you just not vote for her?

916
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: Why have a whole fucking meeting?

917
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 6: Rather because they want to make it known.

918
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: And also the thing too, in my opinion, haven't other

919
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: artists done it?

920
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift does it? Did it right now?

921
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 6: Other artists do this ship before? Because the thing is, oh, well,

922
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 6: you're gonna talk about you about Colle sent down to two.

923
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to talk about.

924
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 6: All these okay, because yeah, I got something all right.

925
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 5: The New York Times reported on this.

926
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 4: According to the senior music executive who attended the meeting

927
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: and spoke on the condition of y because he was

928
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 4: not authorized to discuss the internal deliberations, that was a

929
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 4: very spirited debate, right.

930
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 6: Because don't nobody know who they are.

931
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: I think if people knew who they were, ship would

932
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: be a little different.

933
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 6: But everything is kind of behind the veil.

934
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, nobody knew who the Oscar shit was. I'm

935
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 5: telling you.

936
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 4: The thing that gives the Grammys covers, they have the

937
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 4: urban categories. That's it. It's just you can't say we

938
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 4: don't give black people shit because we have this one.

939
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 4: We when we give rappers ship normally not on TV,

940
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 4: but when we give we give the right. But we

941
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 4: give these rappers awards. So you can't say Kendrick didn't

942
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 4: win anything, you know, it's.

943
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: Just so bizarre though, Like, right, I'm actually really confused,

944
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: like not confused. I know what the answer is to racism,

945
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: but I don't understand it. Just it just seems like such.

946
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: A weird thing, like like, oh, really, I made an

947
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: album solely to trick the Grammy's Like that is so

948
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: fucking silly the most, Like, that's the thing about racism,

949
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 3: no matter how subtle it is, it's always foundationally stupid. Right,

950
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: We're not saying stupid. Oh I can call racism stupid, Okay.

951
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: So then it's just like it's just it's like dumb.

952
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: It's like you are so mad at my excellence and

953
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: you think that I made such.

954
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: An important album to me in different genres so I

955
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 2: could game the Grammy system when I have ninety thousand.

956
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 2: That's killary, so dumb, right, And.

957
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: Then people wonder why people like chance to Rapper going,

958
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm good now, I'm not.

959
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 6: Gonna sign no contract. I keep touring. You know, when

960
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 6: people when people that.

961
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: Are have gotten to the point off of their own

962
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: merit and didn't use somebody else's money and resources to

963
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: get them to a certain level quote unquote you know, however,

964
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: you want to say it they did, it's sign because

965
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: he's not signed with anybody.

966
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: You know.

967
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 6: It's one of those things where I understand why he

968
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 6: does that.

969
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: It's almost like his own personal or rebellion against the system,

970
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: because that's abnormal for a person to get to this

971
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: level and be as recognized as he is and not.

972
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 4: Being well, he won't. I mean, he won a Grammy,

973
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 4: so like it's I mean, I think the Grammys and

974
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 4: then the system of like how people are signing ship

975
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 4: is a little bit different, like being on a label

976
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 4: or not. I mean, that's that's definitely part of a

977
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: part of it, but I don't know that. I just

978
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 4: think in this case, it's more like you're trying to

979
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 4: win a Grammy. Oh hell no, we can't give you

980
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 4: a Grammy, which is like, what the fuck is the point?

981
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 4: Because How'm like I'm gaming the system? Like they'll say,

982
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 4: I really was like, I'm just going to game the system.

983
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 4: I want to win a Grammy. How the fuck would

984
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 4: you have to have a meeting to be like, well,

985
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 4: we definitely don't want this motherfucker to win a Grammy.

986
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: They trying to win a Grammy?

987
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: Like what kind of shit is that?

988
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 3: Just Honestly, if you really care that much, just don't

989
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 3: vote for her.

990
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

991
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, why would you need a meeting?

992
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: Why do we have to have a meeting? Yeah?

993
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: Right right?

994
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: And the thing also about Chance Rapper, he literally had

995
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: to fight the Grammy to even get an award, to

996
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: even get it, where you could not go through the

997
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: traditional platform to even get an award like so he

998
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: still had to fight.

999
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 5: Oh I'm not saying he didn't fight.

1000
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not even disagreeing with I just think it's

1001
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 4: a different fight than what I'm talking about Beyonce. Him

1002
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 4: gave me the system was a little bit different to

1003
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: compared to what they're saying. They're saying she how dare

1004
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 4: she make songs in too many genres and shit like that.

1005
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 2: That is so bizarre.

1006
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: That's literally doing the opposite of what the Grams is

1007
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: supposed to do, which is to award creativity and excellence.

1008
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 3: And to say that someone had to be upset that

1009
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: someone had the audacity to.

1010
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: Go out and do.

1011
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: Good music in other spaces is a bad thing.

1012
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: It's really crazy.

1013
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a very spirited debate.

1014
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 4: They took maybe five minutes and included several voter suspicions

1015
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 4: that by recording a rock song I'm assuming that Don't

1016
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 4: Hurt Herself and the country song Daddy Less's on her

1017
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: album Lemonade, Beyonce was trying to run the table on

1018
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: nominations in the diverse group of categories.

1019
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

1020
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 4: The Grammy's literally punished I'm sorry. Uh, the Grammys literally

1021
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 4: punished beyond a black woman and the greatest entertainment of

1022
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: the great of the past couple of decades for.

1023
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 5: Stretching the boundaries of music on music.

1024
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 4: Instead of acting with the dignity and with any dignity

1025
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 4: and committing such an outstanding and genre defying piece of work,

1026
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 4: they considered it an egregious threat and showed it. Showed

1027
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: it with Last Night. I keep in mind that's some editorializing.

1028
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 4: It is from Beyonce facts Bass on Twitter oah in

1029
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 4: the New York Times, though they wrote It's September, about

1030
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 4: seventy members of the Rock Sorting Committee met to discuss,

1031
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 4: among other topics, whether it Don't Hurt Yourself is a

1032
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 4: rock song. Beyonce wrote, produce, and recorded the song with

1033
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 4: Jack White, and they used a Led Seppling Zeppelin sample.

1034
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 4: We played it for the group mister Freemouth said, there

1035
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 4: wasn't all that much discussion. Everybody said, that's a rock song.

1036
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 4: According to a senior music executive who attended the meeting

1037
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 4: and spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was

1038
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 4: not authorized to discuss the intern of deliberations, he basically said,

1039
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 4: there was a very spirit of debate that took like

1040
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: five minutes, and people.

1041
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 6: She even nominated in that category.

1042
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1043
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: I don't think see that's the same. She wasn't even

1044
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: nominated in these quote unquote, but.

1045
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 4: She was trying can she was trying to get outside

1046
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 4: of her box.

1047
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: She was eating can't catch the.

1048
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 4: Wrong way and they had to try to lock her down.

1049
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: Isn't what's his name from hoop Stink a rock group,

1050
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: a rockish group, and then Darius Rutgers a country singer.

1051
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: Hasn't he been nominated in both?

1052
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: I would assume so, but that's white people ship, So

1053
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know what I mean, Like, I

1054
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: can't I can't confirm her ther not as.

1055
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 3: There's at least one person who has crossed genres before.

1056
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 3: Everybody did a rap album, wasn't she nominated for that?

1057
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: And then didn't she do a jazz outum pretty recently. Yeah,

1058
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: that's so bizarre.

1059
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 4: Well, the thing, the thing is, like they're saying, the

1060
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 4: problem is she did it on the same album. Like

1061
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 4: you got a country song and a rock song on

1062
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 4: the same album, so you try and win rock song

1063
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 4: of a year Country year.

1064
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean all these, all these I

1065
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: mean we shouldn't even be arguing the validity of the

1066
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: argument because it's an invalid argument.

1067
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: But oh, I'm not just like, but you know, like

1068
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: John Mayer does stuff like this. He does rock and

1069
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 3: he does blues and then he does like R and

1070
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: B stuff on the same album all the time.

1071
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: But he's so bizarre that I mean, there's the answer.

1072
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: I don't know why I pretended I didn't know it.

1073
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 4: You know the answer, you just want you just watch

1074
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 4: about it. Here's a New York Post news flash. Having

1075
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: a baby doesn't isn't a miracle, and it doesn't make

1076
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 4: you a goddess, written by Naomi Shaeffer Raley A basic

1077
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 4: ass white woman.

1078
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 2: Now, why are you reading the post? On your post?

1079
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: You didn't or that, please keep paying me on the Decider,

1080
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 3: But why are you reading the post?

1081
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 4: You know I had to you know listen. If it's

1082
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 4: hateful of Beyonce, it come across my feet, then I'm

1083
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: reading it because I'm a vist raate your ass. I mean,

1084
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 4: that's pretty much the rule. Stop writing this shit and

1085
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 4: I'll stop talking about you. Hey, this basic ass. Backy

1086
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 4: was talking about how, you know, Beyonce just reveling in

1087
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 4: her pregnancy. Keep in mind, Beyonce, it's had a miscarriage before,

1088
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 4: so maybe she may feel that the infant mortality rate

1089
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 4: for black women is like three times higher than white

1090
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: women it is, so maybe she might right, that might

1091
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 4: be an attachment to that. Traditionally, people have like downplayed

1092
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 4: black women's motherhood. You know, one thing I've been thinking

1093
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 4: about lately I cannot fucking get out of my mind.

1094
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: I haven't really talked about it, but remember in Baltimore

1095
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: when they had the riots after Freddie Gray and that

1096
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,479
Speaker 4: that black mom came and like hit her son and

1097
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 4: made him like get away from the other quote unquote thugs.

1098
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 4: And remember how like even morning shows were like like

1099
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 4: Good Morning America was like starting with like and this

1100
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: is what we need. And I was like, of course,

1101
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: you want to see a black woman beating her, That's

1102
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 4: what you think you'll praise that right because you want

1103
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 4: to see her beat her child, But at the same

1104
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: time you'll turn around later and be like, this was

1105
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 4: wrong with black people.

1106
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 5: They're violent, they're.

1107
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: Abusive that you know what she did to that child,

1108
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 4: Like you like, you hate us so much you want

1109
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 4: to see us beating and shit, and you would love

1110
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 4: to not have to.

1111
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 5: You think our kids deserve that. But at the same time.

1112
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 4: You think the women that would do a woman that

1113
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 4: would do that as some type of lesser parent and

1114
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 4: a savage and a bad mother and shit like.

1115
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 5: I catch the cash twenty two.

1116
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 4: So here you have Beyonce, who in all the quote

1117
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 4: unquote respectability realms that they trafficking. She's just She's just

1118
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: I'm a mother, I'm having twenty I'm married. H here's

1119
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: my daughter and my mom on stage here like here,

1120
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 4: here's all these other women behind me holding me up

1121
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 4: like in this performance that I'm doing. And instead it

1122
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 4: goes away with like, uh, you're not a goddess and

1123
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 4: motherhood is not a miracle. So I don't even know,

1124
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: like what the big deal is. It's so fucking transparent

1125
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: and but and I think they're threatened by her because

1126
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 4: I really think they fear her for some reason. I do,

1127
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Because I think she is

1128
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 4: a woman that is quote unquote in their space, like

1129
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 4: a space they feel is entitled to theirs. And when

1130
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 4: I say their space, I'm not just talking about the

1131
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 4: Grammys or the Oscars. I mean like reverence of motherhood.

1132
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 4: That's like their shit, is it.

1133
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go as far as saying fear right like,

1134
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 3: I don't think, because I think fear kind of implies

1135
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: that they they see her like as a threat to

1136
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: them personally.

1137
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1138
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 3: Necessarily that it's that it's like that they're threatened beyond

1139
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: it by Beyon here at least, I think fear kind

1140
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 3: of implies that.

1141
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: It's bigger than it is.

1142
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 3: I really do sometimes think that they're that there are

1143
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 3: people who think that black women are just beneath them. Like,

1144
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 3: I don't even think it's like a fear of her

1145
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 3: encroaching on their space. It's just you're not supposed to

1146
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: be like that, so why are you trying to be

1147
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 3: bigger than you are?

1148
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: But why would they? Why would they?

1149
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: No?

1150
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 4: I do think it's fair. I absolutely do think it's fair,

1151
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 4: because it's not just about her being like that. It's

1152
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: about the fact that so many people are celebrated, right

1153
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 4: that it's that black women are they have joy from it,

1154
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 4: and the.

1155
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 5: Same fear that drove them to say we don't.

1156
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 4: I don't want freed women to wear our dresses and

1157
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 4: I think you should cover your hair, and the same

1158
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 4: fear that drove them when white men like bedded black

1159
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 4: women and shit like, it's the same shit of like

1160
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 4: they're not on the level of.

1161
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: Me taking from us.

1162
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're in my space. This is all supposed to

1163
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: be me. The stage is supposed to be me. This,

1164
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 4: like the worship of maternity is me, Like I'm the

1165
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 4: best example of a mother.

1166
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, because it's like half of these times,

1167
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 3: like all the things that they're doing right, it's not

1168
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 3: that they're saying that should be me, or at least

1169
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: they've gotten better about disguising it. It's kind of like saying,

1170
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 3: you're making a bigger deal out of something than it is. Right, right,

1171
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 3: she's saying being pregnant now she's saying all pregnancy is

1172
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: an America instead of just saying Beyonce shouldn't be pregnant

1173
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 3: because black girls shouldn't be celebrating pregnancy now she's diminishing it.

1174
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: She's diminishing pregnancy altogether.

1175
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 4: That's why I'm saying is fear. I'm going beyond what

1176
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 4: she's saying because I don't think what she's saying is

1177
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 4: a true representation of her feelings. I think she's full

1178
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 4: of shit, and she don't even understand. I don't think

1179
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 4: they understand it. No, you know what I'm saying, you

1180
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 4: how like sometimes we understand. I'm like women, women understand

1181
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 4: me when and I know when it's right exactly.

1182
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: I know they don't know.

1183
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 4: But I know exactly. I think they don't even know.

1184
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 4: Like she wouldn't be able to I'm gonna read this shit.

1185
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 4: She wouldn't. She can't even put this in the words herself.

1186
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 4: While this is fucking with her cause it's not like

1187
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 4: she's going When Demymore did that shit, I was so pissed, Like,

1188
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 4: you're not. It's not a miracle. You know how many

1189
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 4: fucking people have announced pregnancies just in the last two weeks.

1190
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 5: All of this.

1191
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: One woman, one white woman, did a whole fucking photo

1192
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 4: shoot exactly like Beyonce's photo shoot.

1193
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 5: It was quote unquote inspired by.

1194
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 4: But it was the fucking same thing, and she got

1195
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 4: the cover of a magazine for the same shit, and

1196
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 4: there was yes, and there was no, There was no

1197
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 4: what the fuck? This is not to be celebrated? Why

1198
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 4: are you? Motherhood is just a thing like none of that.

1199
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 4: I can't have babies? What about why you get to

1200
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 4: have babies?

1201
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 7: Like?

1202
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 4: There was none of that ship anyway? So, oh god,

1203
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: there was nothing more unsexy than this robin on set

1204
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 4: when I had seven month belly protruding out. That was

1205
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 4: Catherine Heiegel describing her experience shooting the scene from her

1206
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 4: new television show Doubt while she was very pregnant. Apparently

1207
00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 4: she does, I don't know.

1208
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: White people don't like Catherine Heigel.

1209
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 3: Come on, you can't quote Catherine Heigel if you're trying

1210
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: to make a point.

1211
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 4: At one point, she recalls, I'm coming out of the

1212
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 4: bathroom wrapped in the towel, and we had a teasing moment,

1213
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 4: and then then I dropped it and I just couldn't

1214
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 4: help myself. I burst out laughing, which is probably how

1215
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 4: most people would have reacted to Beyonce's routine a Sunday

1216
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 4: Nights Grammy Awards if she weren't Beyonce, as Heigel knows.

1217
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 4: I know that pregnancy is beautiful in so many ways,

1218
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 4: but it's sort of more beautiful when you and your husband,

1219
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 4: who has to think you're beautiful. Oh wait, yeah, it's

1220
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 4: more beautiful between you and your husband, who has to

1221
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 4: think you're beautiful. Well, Beyonce has never known when the

1222
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 4: draw the line between what she should share with her

1223
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: husband and what she should share with an audience.

1224
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: Wait, that's dumb, that's so stupid. Like Beyonce is not

1225
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: an actress, right, So like Catherine Heigel isn't isn't on

1226
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: set to be a pregnant woman. Catherine Heigel's on set

1227
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 3: to be the person she's been scripted to be. Whereas

1228
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 3: Beyonce is an artist who generates her own art about

1229
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 3: like herself. So if she's pregnant on stage, she's going

1230
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: to use that she gets. She has the freedom to

1231
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: incorporate that into her art, Whereas Catherine Heigel has to

1232
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 3: hide her pregnancy because her character isn't pregnant. Those there

1233
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 3: are false comparisons like those aren't one to one at all, right.

1234
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: And it's also one of these things where truth be told,

1235
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: it all goes back into white women feeling or just

1236
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: white people period feel like they own black women's bodies.

1237
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 6: How dare you praise your body?

1238
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: How dare you think you're beautiful? How dare you appreciate motherhood?

1239
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: How dare you? And that how dare stems from fear,

1240
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: fear that all of a sudden, you're in my space,

1241
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, my.

1242
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 6: Man will quote unquote think you're attractive, all of a sudden,

1243
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 6: I'm less than.

1244
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: And something white women can't stand is feeling quote unquote

1245
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: less than.

1246
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 6: But it's not true they feel it.

1247
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 4: One of the things that used to ridicule free women

1248
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 4: for was the idea of ladyhood. And now, keep in

1249
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 4: mind free women like when women were when they were slaves,

1250
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 4: they were part of the reason that white women were

1251
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 4: able to attain this like reverence of ladyhood, right because

1252
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 4: I'm doing all your work, like I'm doing all the

1253
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 4: shit like washing your clothes, cleaning your house, cooking your head. Yeah,

1254
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: you get to wear nice dresses and chill and not

1255
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 4: do shit. And then when black women decided to take

1256
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: that on some of those aspects for themselves when they

1257
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 4: were free, like I'm gonna wear nice dresses. I'm gonna

1258
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna be looking fly. There was a

1259
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,959
Speaker 4: lot of like ridicule of like look at them trying

1260
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 4: to be ladies and you know, like like these bitches

1261
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 4: wearing these dresses and then these white men dancing with them,

1262
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 4: what the fuck? Like it was a lot of that.

1263
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 4: I don't think shit has changed that much, as you know,

1264
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 4: I think that that the impetus for that is still

1265
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 4: exists inside of people. I just don't think they examine

1266
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 4: why so.

1267
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 3: They're also just doesn't just like generally speaking, and I

1268
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 3: guess it sort of relates to like what you're saying

1269
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 3: in the moment right now.

1270
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: I used to understand.

1271
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 3: Why there seems to be this insistence upon the like glamorouslessness.

1272
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: Is that a word of pregnancy?

1273
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: It's like, I know that pregnancy isn't easy. I know

1274
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 3: that pregnancy doesn't always feel good, but you know, like

1275
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 3: what's wrong with dressing it up for specific things like

1276
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: a photo shoot for example, or a Grammy performance. I

1277
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: don't understand it, Like do they want her to like

1278
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: come with her placenta hanging out?

1279
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 4: I don't get what it is, And like, you know,

1280
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 4: she's also this is her job. This is her life

1281
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 4: and her genre and her art. Like that's a lot

1282
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 4: of what she does. Like the fact that you would

1283
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 4: use something for your advantage commercially is just good business.

1284
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 4: Like the fucking sls just disappear from the fucking earth

1285
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 4: for ten months and they come right back. Like, I'm

1286
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 4: you know, this is part of my journey too, So

1287
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 4: you know, if my fans are gonna celebrat it, if

1288
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: my music's gonna celebrate and my performers is gonna celebrate it,

1289
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 4: I'm what I'm supposed to not go to the Grammys.

1290
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to perform sitting down at the table with

1291
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 4: my the rest of my body covering.

1292
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 5: It just makes no fucking sense.

1293
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 6: It does not.

1294
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: And one of your favor and actually the woman that

1295
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: actually won the grammyan when she was pregnant, she was

1296
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: nowhere to be seen. She fucking disappeared doing her whole

1297
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: pregnancy Adele.

1298
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 4: Yes. Yeah, but that's my point is they think that's right,

1299
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 4: Like they're like, that's the right way to do it,

1300
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 4: Like you obviously you have to go away, you're pregnant,

1301
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 4: you're something like go to work every day.

1302
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 6: They function.

1303
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 4: It's also it's also a pre existing condition, you know what.

1304
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Yes, yes, and and that, and that's why

1305
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: people failed to realize that was dropped.

1306
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 6: Pre existing conditions would dropped if you're pregnant.

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01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: Once all this shit passed, it's gonna go back to

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01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: the default. If you are pregnant and to get insurance,

1309
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: you were not covered all of a sudden, you stuck

1310
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: with the thousands of dollars.

1311
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 3: Well, that's this is all a conspiracy by the insurance

1312
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: industry because if Beyonce falls with those two babies and her.

1313
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 2: They don't want to have to cover that ship. I

1314
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 2: uncovered the conspiracy.

1315
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 4: And the thing is she probably won't fall because the

1316
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 4: earth is flat, so there was a lot less there

1317
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 4: was a lot. Don't don't fall for big circumference out there, y'all. Okay,

1318
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 4: big globe is trying to lobby the politicians. Well, Beyonce

1319
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 4: has never known when to draw the line between what

1320
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,919
Speaker 4: she should share with her husband and what you share

1321
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 4: with the audience. See her chair straddling, tush wiggling routine.

1322
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: I'm bizarre.

1323
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 3: Claim for somebody who like wouldn't tell us she was married, right,

1324
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 3: isn't that weird?

1325
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 4: Like it's it's funny because at the same time people

1326
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 4: are like, she's so fake and everything is manufactured and manicure,

1327
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 4: and then at the same she's just sharing too much.

1328
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 4: She's telling us all the fucking business. I don't care,

1329
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to know. It's like, which is it sin?

1330
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: Which is it?

1331
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 4: So yeah see her chair styling, touchwiggling routine for twenty fourteen,

1332
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 4: for instance, But there was another message from her endless,

1333
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 4: virgin married son goddess routine. Pregnancy is sexy, motherhood is divine.

1334
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 4: Beyonce's performance was introduced by her own mother, who seemed

1335
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 4: appropriately proud, But what happened after that was some kind

1336
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 4: of pagan fertility worship ceremony. Why is it that, in

1337
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 4: an era where women are constantly insisting that they should

1338
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 4: not be defined by their traditional biological roles, we have

1339
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 4: fetishized motherhood to such an extent.

1340
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: Now t ain't fund it. That's a white woman's fight

1341
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: on the side. White women have always been coveted and

1342
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: they want to fight against quote unquote being sexy. Black

1343
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: women has been a complete opposite most of our existence.

1344
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: We've been told how we're not sexy. When not attractive,

1345
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: we look like men. So a lot of black women

1346
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: want to be coveted, which is fine, but for some

1347
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: reason you think your fight is our fight in it

1348
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: is not.

1349
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 4: You know what's funny to me is I just pictured

1350
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 4: in my head like a fad white mistress that was pregnant,

1351
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 4: like being pampered and taking care of and then like

1352
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 4: a black woman that's pregnant with her being like, now

1353
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 4: get in there, make me a sandwich. God damn, what's

1354
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 4: take us a long? We ain't gonna be done with

1355
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 4: that wash. Jesus man, you get a little pregnant around here,

1356
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 4: you just think you can slack off anyway, Let me

1357
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 4: get some tea. Adele's words at the Grammars of My

1358
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 4: Motherhood weren't as glamorous as Beyonce's, but they were similarly

1359
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 4: self indulgent.

1360
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 5: In my pregnancy and through becoming.

1361
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 4: A mother, I lost a lot of myself and I struggled,

1362
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 4: and I still do struggle.

1363
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 5: Being a mom. It's really hard.

1364
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 4: But tonight's winning with this kind of feels full circle

1365
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 4: and like a bit of me has come back to myself.

1366
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 4: There are reports that Adele struggled with postpartum depression at

1367
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 4: the giving birth, but the idea that a woman who

1368
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 4: is known to millions by only her first name has

1369
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 4: lost herself by becoming a mother, she was a little

1370
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 4: far fetched. When most mothers say this, they mean they

1371
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 4: have to scale back their professional life, or they spend

1372
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 4: their days at home chain the diapers. But a Dale

1373
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 4: is presumably waxing philosophical here and wants to tell us

1374
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 4: motherhood is so hard. Oh please wait, So what is

1375
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 4: her point?

1376
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 3: She's contradicting herself because initially she was trying to argue,

1377
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 3: through Catherine Heigel's words that pregnancy is hard and I'm glamorous,

1378
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: And now she's saying glamorous. People aren't allowed to say that.

1379
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 3: It's unglamorous. But also she wants Beyonce to stop making

1380
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 3: it glamorous.

1381
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 4: Well, don't get her wrong. There are people for whom

1382
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 4: motherhood is hard. There are mothers out there whose children

1383
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 4: form suffer from chronic health problems. There are mothers there

1384
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 4: are mothers whose children have died caring Beyonce is a

1385
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 4: mother who had a miscarriage, though, but won't be talking

1386
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 4: about that. There are mothers who are struggling to get by,

1387
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 4: and I don't mean struggling to juggle the demands of

1388
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 4: marriage and family and careers.

1389
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 5: I mean, there are mothers who have trouble making ends.

1390
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 4: We have no husbands or extended family on whom they

1391
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 4: can depend. There are mothers who foster or adopt children

1392
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 4: who have previously been mistreated or neglected. But they are

1393
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 4: But these are not the mothers who get speeches about

1394
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 4: how they are lost.

1395
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: They don't right because they're not winning Grammys. I don't understand.

1396
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty sure it could be mothers that actually

1397
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: out here speaking against like doing this.

1398
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 4: But you and there's a lot of kids that give

1399
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 4: those speeches.

1400
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 5: I mean, Kevin Durant, Colls, Mama, the real m v P.

1401
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

1402
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 3: It's just they's just like she's she doesn't know what

1403
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 3: she's talking about, Like she's why would why would I

1404
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 3: be giving a Grammy speech about how hard motherhood is

1405
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: if I didn't win a grad.

1406
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: I don't understand what she wants. She says.

1407
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 4: Our culture imperative to elevate motherhood to both the most

1408
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 4: important thing in the world and the hardest thing in

1409
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 4: the world is getting out of control. A pregnant woman

1410
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 4: recently wrote in The Slates Dear Prudence column, explaining that

1411
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 4: her sister, who is also pregnant, didn't want her to

1412
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 4: want to be upstaged by her sibling at a baby shower. Oh,

1413
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 4: come on, whether or not you're a celebrity, motherhood is

1414
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 4: not a theatrical event. At the giving birth in twenty fifteen,

1415
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 4: Carry Washington said, my body is the side of a miracle. Now,

1416
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 4: far be it from me to tell the actors exactly

1417
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 4: what qualifies as a miracle. But even the most religious

1418
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 4: women I know do not walk around with the attitude

1419
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 4: that they are supposed to be worshiped by anyone besides

1420
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 4: their husbands because they have given birth.

1421
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 3: Why is their husband supposed to worship them? If people

1422
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 3: are unworthy of worship.

1423
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 4: And far be it from me to tell you. But

1424
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you right, Yeah, I'm not trying to

1425
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 4: tell you. I'm about to tell your ass.

1426
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: Like, here's the thing, Like the worship aspect of that.

1427
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 3: Of the performance did bother me.

1428
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: It unsettled me, Like I just didn't like that for me.

1429
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 3: Like, but I don't understand, uh, I don't understand that

1430
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 3: her insistence upon the mundanity of pregnancy, because if it

1431
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 3: were mundane everyone, everyone could do it one and like

1432
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be it wouldn't be such an.

1433
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: Ordeal to do it, do you know what I mean?

1434
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 3: Like, being pregnant is not easy, like not even a

1435
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 3: little bit, and it's weird chance it's frustration that's like

1436
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 3: rooted in nothingness.

1437
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, your womb is a.

1438
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 3: Miracle site if a child comes to life, Like there's

1439
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 3: a thing that's gonna walk out of there.

1440
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1441
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 4: Do you ray? Do you get out of your seat

1442
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 4: if a pregnant woman is on the train and you

1443
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 4: just be like, uh, get over it, mundane bullshit, everyone

1444
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 4: go through with this totally.

1445
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 3: Get out of my seat, And like, really, if I

1446
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 3: ever got pregnant, I'd be so grateful because it's like

1447
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 3: it is a miracle to get me to stop having

1448
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 3: periods for nine home months, bless you.

1449
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: You know. So that is great.

1450
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously it's a performance, So

1451
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't I don't understand, Like, honestly, it

1452
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 4: would have been a quote unquote worship performance no matter what,

1453
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 4: because Beyonce totally has other normally black women in her

1454
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 4: thing who are on on stage kind of surrounding and

1455
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 4: celebrating this blackness. But yeah, part of that is gonna

1456
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 4: be the fact that I'm the one with the mic,

1457
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 4: so y'all, nigga's gonna have to be doing a lot

1458
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 4: of standing around, you know. So Like to me, it's like,

1459
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 4: I don't know why she would take issue with it

1460
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 4: this time because she's pregnant, but not every fucking time

1461
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,440
Speaker 4: she's ever been on stage.

1462
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 3: Well, so the reason I bothered me, I guess, you know,

1463
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 3: maybe I feel some kind of.

1464
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: Ownership or whatever did Yoba religion.

1465
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 3: Like that's my people on stuff. But there was an

1466
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 3: image that stuck with me that made me really like

1467
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: or maybe not uncomfortable.

1468
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 2: I just didn't like it where there was like.

1469
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 3: She's walking and their hands kind of raised at her.

1470
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 3: It looked very much like that parting shot of whatever

1471
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 3: season of Game of Throws where Danny is standing above

1472
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 3: all these people and.

1473
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: They're like mesa, mesa. That also made me uncomfortable.

1474
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 3: So I just don't like the idea of any one

1475
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 3: person sort of representing divinity on Earth just in general.

1476
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: It's just something I don't like.

1477
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't take exception to it because

1478
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 3: she's pregnant. I just don't like imagery of that sort

1479
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 3: at all.

1480
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 5: All right, Well you also don't like circle, so I mean.

1481
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: Come on, I don't.

1482
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 3: Fine, my body has a response to it that I

1483
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 3: can't control.

1484
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 2: I think it's called te phobia. There are other people,

1485
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm crazy.

1486
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 4: I think the Mohisa thing was different because it was

1487
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 4: a white woman. Yeah, and there was a bunch of

1488
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 4: brown people.

1489
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: But I just don't like it at all.

1490
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 4: Just that's just me, all right, all right, Well we

1491
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 4: know how raised comedy special is not gonna start, But.

1492
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: I'm now gonna do it on purpose.

1493
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get like Virgin Mary imagery, all of this

1494
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 3: ship I would get.

1495
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 4: You should cast all white women and make them do it.

1496
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: That would be the sweetest revenge.

1497
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 5: Her face is so a man. I love her so much.

1498
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 5: It's really not fair.

1499
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 4: Like her face is so priceless when they had the

1500
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 4: hands and she's just looking into the camera like super

1501
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 4: fucking serious, Like that's right, bitch, I'm making the worship me.

1502
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 4: I could have made it to show art. It's so

1503
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 4: good anyway. Carmen Rasmussen Herbert writes One Latter Day Saints

1504
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,480
Speaker 4: Woman's take on Beyonce it's odd but inspiring Grammy performance.

1505
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: I you know, I know this is not nice, but

1506
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 3: I don't.

1507
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: Want to hear them from a Mormon on Beyonce. I

1508
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 2: just don't. I'm good, thank you? Well, why would you like?

1509
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 2: Why is it important for a Mormon woman to give

1510
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 2: her like? What is that? Why?

1511
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 4: Well, she's still a white woman, so she has to

1512
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 4: have an opinion about how Beyonce handled this.

1513
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 2: Okay, even if she's a fringe white woman, white woman.

1514
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 4: Five Mormons, and we need to we need to read this.

1515
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 4: Mormon's not even allowed to read this, but that she

1516
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 4: wrote it anyway. WHI Ladell wasn't big At the.

1517
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 5: Grammy Awards February twelfth.

1518
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 4: All the talk was on Beyonce, who was expecting twins,

1519
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 4: and her study performance, which has been noted for spiritual things,

1520
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 4: portraying the beauty of forgiveness and reconciliation and the power

1521
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 4: of womanhood. I must admit the first time I saw

1522
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 4: Beyonce's performance, I thought it was a little strange. But

1523
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 4: the more I watched a group of women on stage

1524
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 4: move together, supporting each other and standing their ground, rising

1525
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 4: and falling while staying strong, the more I was struck

1526
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 4: with the metaphorical meaning of it all, and it had

1527
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 4: me thinking and by the end, how grateful I am

1528
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 4: to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ

1529
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 4: of Latter day Saints with this idea.

1530
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 3: There's a lot of leaks that you know, she lived

1531
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 3: out like three sentences in that paragraph, like a.

1532
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,879
Speaker 4: White women really have been just like descending into Beyonce's performance,

1533
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 4: like but.

1534
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 6: What about me?

1535
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 4: I'm here.

1536
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 2: She needs to hold my hand because I was lost.

1537
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 4: I'm here now, we can all talk about the Latter

1538
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,480
Speaker 4: Days Saints. Let's go get information.

1539
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 2: Think that what's something? Went into the woods to get

1540
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: those extra commandments wherever he thought that in two.

1541
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 3: Hundred years that Beyonce would be the reason you should

1542
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 3: join his religions.

1543
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 4: Right, I went back for them extra commandments? And what

1544
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 4: the fuck is this lemonade? I don't even understand this

1545
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 4: one commandment twenty seven lemonade that don't even make sense.

1546
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 4: Uh crazy, Maybe maybe it'll make sense hundreds of years

1547
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 4: from now. But yeah, she says, where this idea of

1548
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 4: bonded sisterhood isn't just an artistic portrayal, it's reality. I

1549
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 4: don't listen to a lot of Beyonce. Some of her

1550
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 4: songs are beautiful on fron I can tell by the

1551
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 4: title and your white skin.

1552
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 7: Uh.

1553
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 4: Some of her songs are beautiful and fun. We even

1554
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 4: sang too on our American Idols Live tour, but an

1555
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 4: equal amount of our crude, explicit and vulgar. I have

1556
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 4: come to learn through the years how much music affects me,

1557
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 4: and songs that encourage or support inappropriate behavior have a

1558
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 4: negative impact on me personally. Even though I disagreed with

1559
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 4: the way she artistically expressed herself, there were several things

1560
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 4: about Beyonce's message during her performance I did agree with,

1561
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 4: and she went and outlined them. Reverence and respect for motherhood.

1562
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: Okay, m h.

1563
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 5: The importance of commitment.

1564
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 4: And marriage okay, and three women need other women.

1565
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 2: See do you know what this is? Oh my gosh,

1566
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: rid this Oh this is great. This is a woman

1567
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 2: who like loves Beyonce, but she's still a Mormons not loud,

1568
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: so she has to do this.

1569
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 3: This whole essay is just an exclaimer so that when

1570
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 3: she goes back to church people are like, you like

1571
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 3: that bitch, And she's like, no, I mean not, you know,

1572
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 3: but mother hud and you know commitment, and you know

1573
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 3: it's like it's it's she This is a standing essay.

1574
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: This is disguising her standing.

1575
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's definitely because if she was talking to you,

1576
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 3: she'd like, I love that.

1577
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 2: Did you see? That's what this is for.

1578
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is for women who listen to all of Lemonade,

1579
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 4: but they're pretending to listen to two.

1580
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 2: Songs you know, exactly exactly like you listened.

1581
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 4: To an hour year in the car right yourself? Are

1582
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 4: you fronting for the internet girl?

1583
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1584
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: And the thing is she had to, you know, put

1585
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: it on front Street about her church because you know,

1586
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: not too long ago, Beyonce, wouldn't it even be allowed

1587
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: to be a member.

1588
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, like only like thirty years ago, just thirty

1589
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 3: years ago they were saying like our skin was the

1590
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 3: stain of a say or whatever. And so now she's like,

1591
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 3: what I really like this girl?

1592
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 4: Right, But I don't think you understand guys, just because

1593
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 4: we weren't allowed to be members of her church doesn't

1594
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 4: mean that her opinion of us isn't really really fucking important.

1595
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 4: So we need to listen to what she has to say.

1596
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 4: Can Okay that was thirty years ago? Why are you

1597
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 4: bringing up old shit. Beyonce would have been allowed in

1598
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 4: after Oh.

1599
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 6: Wow, what about the kids in Wisconsin?

1600
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, uh, but yeah, so she identified with it,

1601
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 4: but I thought it was interesting because she also had

1602
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 4: shade in there. Beyonce went out of NAACP Image Awards,

1603
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 4: so you know, and Moonlight one and woo.

1604
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 3: My friend Terrell is the guy who's a screenplay is

1605
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 3: based off, and I'm so happy for him. He's like

1606
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 3: he's so nice and so humble and like such a

1607
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 3: good man, and it was like, really, it's very strange

1608
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 3: for him to be like watching the world watch his

1609
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 3: story and like that is the like you literally see

1610
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 3: on the screen like his bear self, and he's so

1611
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 3: like grateful and happy for the response and it's so

1612
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 3: well deserved. Like very Jenkins did a great job herschel.

1613
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think he's amazing incredible.

1614
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 2: So I'm just like really really happy.

1615
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 3: And if Moonlight doesn't win Best Picture, we're gonna be

1616
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 3: in the streets fight.

1617
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 2: Are you coming?

1618
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think like I think you win. I mean,

1619
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 4: there's some good contenders this year, and I, like I said,

1620
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 4: I loved Fences and I really thought Hidden Figures is great,

1621
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 4: but I think Moonlight is the movie of the year.

1622
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I wouldn't be I won't be mad if say,

1623
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 4: like Hidden Figures one, But I think Moonlight was the

1624
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 4: best feel I saw this year.

1625
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 3: Well, if anybody who's ever said the word law ever

1626
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 3: in their life gets knocked in the.

1627
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 4: Face, yeah yeah, Like if if wins, then we have

1628
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 4: to change it from daylight so to something.

1629
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 2: Else, like it's gotta be day.

1630
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, we done. We're done with y'all.

1631
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 5: So then another woman carry Partnell.

1632
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 4: Close ozz. Imagine the most basic looking white woman. Okay,

1633
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 4: now you've seen carry Parnell carry Partnell, says Beyonce's twins

1634
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 4: announcement over the top.

1635
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 5: Absolutely did I miss something?

1636
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 4: Or has no woman in the world before Beyonce giving

1637
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 4: birth to twins? Perhaps up until now the second one

1638
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 4: has always arrived courtesy of a surrogate storage service. How

1639
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 4: else to explain the hysteria over Queen Bee that she

1640
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 4: did not use b e y just b who seems

1641
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 4: to have been elevated to a living deity status since

1642
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 4: announcing via a photo in her undies Brad and Veil

1643
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 4: that she's carrying a double load. The shot on her

1644
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 4: Instagram site received ten point five million lights in two

1645
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 4: weeks and shout at the world record for most like

1646
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 4: image on the site. But why, don't get me wrong,

1647
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 4: I'm really happy for Beyonce, Jay Z and Blue Ivy.

1648
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 4: You know what, that's the hagar When you don't like somebody,

1649
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 4: let you see them like I really, I'm really happy

1650
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 4: for you. It's terrific news, and I hope all goes

1651
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,879
Speaker 4: well for her growing family. I'm also happy for Ama Clooney,

1652
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 4: who nonchalantly announced that she is having twins without a

1653
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 4: naked visual aid, and for Madonna, who just adopted twins.

1654
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:21,919
Speaker 2: Well that's stupid.

1655
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: Well okay, fine, then I'm happy for old girls down

1656
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 3: the street.

1657
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: And we should make a celebrity. I don't understand.

1658
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 3: This is so bizarre because somebody else is pregnant, Beyonce

1659
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 3: doesn't get to be I don't get that.

1660
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: What is this.

1661
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 4: It's almost as if there's a competition that no one

1662
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 4: told anyone about until a black woman got her pregnancy.

1663
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 4: Very like, I don't know.

1664
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: Women been doing this for years a ton of magazines,

1665
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: but white women passed it on the front covers.

1666
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah't pregnant but also a mom?

1667
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:54,839
Speaker 2: What a stupid example.

1668
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 3: Amm clooney is not a visual artist, right, and then

1669
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 3: another stupid example, Donna didn't get pregnant, so yeah, she

1670
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 3: wouldn't celebrate pregnancy, and.

1671
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 4: She's definitely been celebrating her twins. She's been taking pictures

1672
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 4: and there on Instagram too. You know, just ten and

1673
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 4: a half people, ten ten and a half million people

1674
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 4: just didn't like that. And also we're just probably worried

1675
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 4: that she might call them niggas at some point, so

1676
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 4: maybe we don't find it as fucking flattering as you do.

1677
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 3: But why didn't the adoption people go, this woman did

1678
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 3: call her white kid nigga, why are we giving her

1679
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 3: more babies?

1680
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 1: Right?

1681
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 4: I cannot like, I honestly, for the life of me,

1682
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 4: I cannot get excited about that shit. And I'm sure

1683
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 4: those kids are gonna have such a better life quote

1684
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 4: unquote or whatever, but they'll have more resources maybe than

1685
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 4: they would have. I'm sure she adopted them from like

1686
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,879
Speaker 4: whatever kind of situation. I'm not trying to knock adoption,

1687
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 4: but she was just out here unapologetically being like, it's

1688
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 4: this nigga's birthday for her white son, and everybody was like, uh, well, cool,

1689
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 4: go gets you some old black babies.

1690
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 3: Being racist because we didn't like her Prince review or

1691
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 3: I often wonder about that sort of stuff. But you

1692
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 3: do transracial adoptions, and because a lot of the times

1693
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,560
Speaker 3: people who are running adoption agencies or facilitating the adoptions

1694
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 3: aren't people of color, just because you know, that isn't

1695
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 3: usually how it goes. I wonder if they ask these

1696
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 3: important questions, like seriously, because it matters. It's like, is

1697
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 3: it right to put a black kid in the arms

1698
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 3: in the home of a mother who says nigga, Like

1699
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 3: it's really important to ask that.

1700
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 2: Like, I'm sure they did ask, but.

1701
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 6: Are they just come in you got money?

1702
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,799
Speaker 2: It's like Madonna's rich, you got money?

1703
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 6: Okay, we'll take and there's one of the day.

1704
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 1: But they're probably shot that they asks for brown children

1705
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: because actually we're actually low way in calls.

1706
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 6: Let's just keep get real.

1707
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 1: Statistic study have shown that we don't collst as much.

1708
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: So it's like, oh yeah, you want them, Oh yeah,

1709
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: we actually give you a solo discount, you know, everybody,

1710
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: and you get one.

1711
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me cop a couple of black babies real quick.

1712
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 4: But yeah, So then she talks about how she Beyonce

1713
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 4: is worth of their praise. Please be hoigh, don't come

1714
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 4: for me.

1715
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 2: And yet then you didn't need to race this.

1716
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 4: And yet what I'm a bit perplexed by is why

1717
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 4: everyone is losing their maternity marbles over the news. It's lovely, yes,

1718
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 4: but it's not really that exciting, is it?

1719
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 6: And yet I still have to write this so I don't.

1720
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.

1721
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:34,799
Speaker 3: It's like, I think I played on the internet about

1722
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 3: it for like a day or two, and I thought

1723
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 3: that the news cycle moved along, and I've seen more

1724
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 3: thing pieces than I've seen tweets about it, I think.

1725
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 4: And then people wonder how you get into the Beyonce

1726
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 4: stance slash hob mode. It really like it really was

1727
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 4: just enough fucking white women had something to say about

1728
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 4: this black woman, and I was like, yo, fuck it

1729
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 4: rolling with be down. It really was that simple, like

1730
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 4: it just leave her. Like it went from like, oh, yeah,

1731
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 4: she is she cool, to like, wait, she can't get pregnant,

1732
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:13,520
Speaker 4: she can't get married, she can't say, uh, she supports feminism,

1733
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 4: she can't say uh, she can't whar we she gotta

1734
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 4: she gotta have too much clothes on. She can't be

1735
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 4: too sexy, she can't have her daughter's hair certain ways,

1736
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 4: she can't make a song for black women. She can't.

1737
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 4: It's like, God, damn, what the fuck does she do?

1738
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 4: Because y'all definitely don't do this with everybody. It's all

1739
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 4: I'm saying. It's definitely not something that's happening for everybody.

1740
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 3: Kind of it's kind of their own fault too, right,

1741
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 3: because it's like black women wouldn't be so enthusiastic, or

1742
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 3: you know, black people in general, right, wouldn't be so enthusiastic,

1743
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't be so standing.

1744
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 2: If you would just elevate all of us.

1745
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 3: But you've made it so that only one at a

1746
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 3: time can be up there. So when we focus and

1747
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,560
Speaker 3: and obsessed about this one person.

1748
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 2: You get annoyed. Well, there would be.

1749
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 3: A diverse the I mean, people would still be Beyonce

1750
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 3: Hives obsessed, I'm sure, but it's like we'd be talking

1751
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 3: about somebody else if we had somebody else to the

1752
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 3: extent that she is. But you've made it so that

1753
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 3: women in particular, but black women, can't get to the

1754
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 3: level she gets, which is why it's such an achievement

1755
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 3: to celebrate.

1756
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: You made it that way. You said black women couldn't

1757
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 2: be pretty.

1758
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 3: On TV, but we got one and now we're gonna

1759
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 3: celebrate it. Now, if you just let more black women

1760
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 3: be pretty and like sing and talented and brilliant on television,

1761
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 3: maybe there wouldn't be such a silo of standard. Every

1762
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 3: article always has a hey, beehive, don't come for me.

1763
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 3: It's like, well, they wouldn't have to come for you

1764
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 3: if you weren't doing this very exact thing.

1765
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 4: Right And why how Like just because you're conscious that

1766
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 4: you're participating in the behavior doesn't erase the fact that

1767
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 4: you're participating in that same fucking behavior. You're not writing

1768
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 4: these pieces about other people. It's just there's so many

1769
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 4: people on that stage. There's so many other artists. You're

1770
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 4: not coming for them. Yeah, you picked the black one

1771
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 4: over and fucking over again because she's in a in

1772
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 4: like I said, I feel like they're scared, they feel

1773
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 4: threatened by her. She's just in a space where they

1774
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 4: would prefer for a black woman not to be like

1775
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 4: they like, they don't have a problem with Rihanna because

1776
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 4: they they like in their mind and like.

1777
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 5: Oh, she's the bad girl.

1778
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 4: She's you know, the alternative choice to to whiteness and

1779
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 4: ship like totally cool. We're not you know, we don't

1780
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 4: even have to We're not even worried about giving her

1781
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 4: albu many years. It's just not even a fucking thing

1782
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 4: for us.

1783
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 3: Like, you know, they tried it with Rihanna last year.

1784
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 3: Remember when there was that like why does Rihanna always

1785
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,600
Speaker 3: kill men in her videos?

1786
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know, Madonna's killing people, right.

1787
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 4: What do you mean, bitch? Better have my money? Canist?

1788
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 4: Like yeah, it's like, yeah.

1789
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,480
Speaker 3: Lena Dunham trying to say that Rihanna had an obligation

1790
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 3: to young black girls to to not get back with

1791
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 3: Chris Brown.

1792
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 2: I was like, how about you put a young black

1793
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 2: bitch in your show?

1794
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 6: Right?

1795
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: Would you do that?

1796
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: Right?

1797
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 4: Can? I'm going to the next session, We'll be right back.

1798
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,799
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's but yeah, you do have that that

1799
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 4: that I don't know, it's just that hypocrisy, man, And

1800
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 4: they expect people not to pick up on it, and

1801
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 4: you know, like, and the thing that's funny is if

1802
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 4: they had leveled this at someone else, people would just

1803
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 4: be defending that person. Like it's not so like, you know,

1804
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 4: it's not so much just that it's.

1805
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: Just that it's Beyonce.

1806
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1807
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 3: General, they're a sailing kind of like ideas and norms

1808
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 3: that don't quite need a sailing. Yeah, the idea that

1809
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 3: and the reason that people celebrate pregnancy is because people

1810
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 3: weren't celebrating pregnancy, right, So we're now in a space

1811
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 3: we're allowed to do it. And it's so bizarre that

1812
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 3: what that this one person took it too far?

1813
01:27:58,479 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1814
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 3: I mean I found the maternity photos were absolutely beautiful,

1815
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 3: and also like everybody.

1816
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 2: Does maternity shoots. I don't know.

1817
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 3: And if I could afford to take a picture underwater

1818
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 3: and if I could swim, I swear to God I

1819
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 3: would do it.

1820
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 2: I would do it.

1821
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 6: Yo.

1822
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 4: Remember Michael Phelps's wife took underwater maternity.

1823
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 6: Photo pictures beautiful?

1824
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was no there just wasn't there just wasn't

1825
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,799
Speaker 4: all this shit about it. It's just all I'm noticing

1826
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 4: is that, Like that's the thing that bothers me a lot.

1827
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 4: And the thing that like kind of gets my dander

1828
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 4: up is when I noticed like certain hypocracy. I can't

1829
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 4: help myself, Like I just yes, speaking that language now

1830
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 4: like they like I like like because it's a certain

1831
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 4: ship where I like, honestly, I saw Beyonce's pregnancy photo

1832
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 4: on Instagram, went cute like the end, you know, actually

1833
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 4: it was the ones that had blue in her Now

1834
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, that's that's so fucking cool. But

1835
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 4: you know, I was just like, yeah, Beyonce just you know,

1836
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 4: doing the most as she normally does. He has dials

1837
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 4: in her house and it just stuck on the most

1838
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 4: and she always doing the most. So I just love

1839
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 4: it at that, Like, I really didn't think it was

1840
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 4: controversial all nigga, It's been three weeks. What the fuck

1841
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 4: y'all haven't moved on? Like at this point, I don't

1842
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 4: even think she reads this shit Like at this point

1843
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 4: is just yeah, it's just them being like this. So

1844
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not evenna read the reress of this,

1845
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 4: but I want to get to this point, right. So

1846
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 4: I used to think a long time ago, uh, which well,

1847
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 4: I don't know, three four years probably now, no longer

1848
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 4: than that, but whatever, I used to be like, man,

1849
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 4: maybe Beyonce is like so fucking vain and super like,

1850
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 4: look like she just protects her image so much. Like

1851
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 4: I remember there were pictures of her from the super

1852
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 4: Bowl halftime where they like found like, you know how

1853
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 4: you can take a video and freeze it and if

1854
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 4: you freeze it at the right time, you'll be like,

1855
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 4: look at this, you know, And and they did that

1856
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 4: to her and I remember being like and she like

1857
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 4: made them take it. She was like, I will see

1858
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 4: y'all motherfuckers take this shit down. And I was like, well,

1859
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 4: that's kind of overreacting. And you know, those people are

1860
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 4: gonna be like, oh, look at Beyonce. Overreacted. She can't

1861
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 4: even take a joke and shit like that. And I

1862
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I guess, you know, maybe just it.

1863
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 4: It really doesn't matter. It's not like people don't know

1864
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 4: you want to find this motherfucker's on the planet. But

1865
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 4: then and then there was like a documentary what she

1866
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 4: talked about how like she records and kind of chronicles

1867
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 4: her own life story and shit, And I was like, yeah,

1868
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 4: that's weird. Why would you like chronicle your own life story?

1869
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 4: Like did you know he was gonna be a star

1870
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 4: when he was like a kid and shit, Like, I

1871
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 4: mean apparently she did, But the point being, I was

1872
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 4: just like, that seems like over the top, like why

1873
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 4: not just whatever? But one I've never seen them do

1874
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 4: that picture shit to anybody else. And it's been a

1875
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 4: bunch of Super Bowl since then. What happened? Like, are

1876
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 4: we not ridiculing everybody for because everybody gets on that stage.

1877
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 4: It's glamorous to some extent, Right, we don't have the

1878
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 4: Katy Perry look at her face, we don't have the

1879
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 4: lady guy guy?

1880
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 5: What about her thigh.

1881
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 4: In this picture? Like why did y'all only do that?

1882
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 4: The one person that's very fucking weird? You know, it's

1883
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 4: not consistent. Keep up the consistency. Then you have the

1884
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 4: stuff where like I said, you know, they were like

1885
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 4: people that said she faked their pregnancy. She sued one

1886
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 4: of the people there, people that took a picture of

1887
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 4: Blue when one of those blocks went out of business

1888
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 4: or some shit and putting the unauthorized picture of her.

1889
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 4: And I was like, man, she's like super fucking protective,

1890
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 4: and I just like it must just be vanity. But

1891
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 4: like now the older I get, and now, like the

1892
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 4: further along we've gotten, I feel like she's just doing

1893
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 4: that to be protective of her brand and shit for herself,

1894
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 4: Like she pretty much gotta be cause it's so like

1895
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 4: she's so hyper scrutinized in a way that other people are.

1896
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 6: Not like that from a very early age.

1897
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, where we think we get criticized, we don't get

1898
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 1: an ounce of the criticism.

1899
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 6: That she has.

1900
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 1: And she's always been somebody, in my opinion, that has

1901
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 1: always thought about the future. So nobody else as a

1902
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: teenager would have ever thought crying a lot like like

1903
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,839
Speaker 1: video in their life. But because she thinks about the future,

1904
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: she thinks about video on home. Everyonee't amazed me if

1905
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 1: one day she takes all this footage to chop it

1906
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 1: up and release it, you know, because she's always thinking

1907
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: about whatever the fuck that.

1908
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 4: Well, she'll put little glimpses in her in her work

1909
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 4: and it just okay. So on one hand, just as

1910
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 4: a brand, she's essentially monopolized herself. So it's like if

1911
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 4: I can do something like put five minutes of my

1912
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 4: wedding footage and us playing with blue at the end

1913
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,839
Speaker 4: of my special and people are like, oh my god,

1914
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 4: this is so amazing because she doesn't really allow you

1915
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 4: to have a glimpse into her life. But then also

1916
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 4: I think it's like it works as a protective bubble

1917
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 4: for her, you know what I mean, because like at

1918
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 4: the end of the day for those who do love them.

1919
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 4: From Beyonce, it's like white women have made it a

1920
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 4: their life's goal to expose her as just a.

1921
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 5: Nigger from Houston.

1922
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 4: They and they don't know that a lot of us

1923
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 4: love her because she's just a nigga from Houston. Like

1924
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 4: it's like, isn't this amazing? A little black girl is

1925
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 4: fucking has turned the world on its head and it's

1926
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 4: like a phenomenon and still singing about hot sauce and

1927
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 4: using Southern rap in her shit, and you know, there's

1928
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 4: outpass sympoles and all.

1929
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 5: Kinds of shit, like it's just to us.

1930
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 4: To me, it's just more like cool, But they've turned

1931
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 4: it into something more where I feel like I have

1932
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 4: to defend it because it's always under attack as opposed

1933
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 4: to just being like, yeah, that's her lane, that's cool.

1934
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 4: She's making a lot of money, making a lot of music,

1935
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 4: and I think she has to be because she had

1936
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 4: the foresight to be protective from a fucking point where

1937
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 4: I would have never I would have never been able

1938
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 4: to do that, Like to you know how Ray's talking

1939
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 4: about I don't say stupid now, like.

1940
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 5: It's that kind of thing, but from a long time ago.

1941
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 5: She's just like, well, I want.

1942
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 4: To be the biggest, and I can't be in just

1943
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 4: interviews going off or getting drunk and saying ship or

1944
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,679
Speaker 4: drunk tweeting or like, I have to be protective now

1945
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 4: so that later on when these motherfuckers are coming at

1946
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 4: my door, I'll be kind of insulated. And it's and

1947
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,679
Speaker 4: I think it works for her in that way because

1948
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,559
Speaker 4: I don't think these people really get through to her

1949
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 4: and if she, if they do, it'll just be using

1950
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 4: a song, or they'll be using a video, or she'll

1951
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 4: have someone read a quote like it's like it'll be

1952
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 4: It'll be fine because I think she has thought about

1953
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 4: it that far in advance, which is like some supernatural

1954
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 4: level ship.

1955
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 5: Remember when what's the white girl to keep getting knock

1956
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 5: out of?

1957
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 4: Mm A, what is that white woman's name? I want

1958
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 4: to say her name is Rose?

1959
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 5: Oh hold on, we accidentally lost when we had her back.

1960
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 4: Yeah. So remember when Ronda Rowsey had that do nothing

1961
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 4: bitch long ass like it was like, I don't know,

1962
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 4: was it a commercial? And white women was like yes, dude,

1963
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 4: do nothing bitches, And then Beyonce took the same and

1964
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 4: do nothing bitch uh speech and put it in a

1965
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 4: video and then the same white woman was like, this

1966
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:22,919
Speaker 4: is terrible.

1967
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 5: How what about the bitches that do nothing? Who will

1968
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 5: think of them?

1969
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 2: So like you had?

1970
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 4: So you had so Like I really do think like

1971
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 4: her crafting and meticulous management of her image. It's just

1972
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 4: it's just been done for moments, like for like now,

1973
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 4: like so that she can just kind of have a life,

1974
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 4: you know, right.

1975
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 1: And Also I can't speak for everybody, but I know

1976
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 1: for me in particular, I understand that if we talked

1977
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: about it before, Beyonce, it's not perfect.

1978
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 6: Yon sad she has the flowers. No, she quote unquote

1979
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 6: might not be the best singer of the best that y'all, y'all, y'all.

1980
01:35:58,880 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 6: I understand that.

1981
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 1: Well.

1982
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:02,480
Speaker 6: For me, the biggest.

1983
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 1: Reason why I defend and fight for Beyonce because me

1984
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 1: being a black woman, I can relate me just constantly

1985
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: being tired of being criticized about every fucking thing I do.

1986
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 1: If I if I enter the room, I'm criticized. If

1987
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: I speak certain ways, I'm criticized, If I look a

1988
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 1: certain way, I'm criticized. Everything about her is constantly scrutinized

1989
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: because she's black.

1990
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 6: Ain't no answer about.

1991
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 4: It strip her of her pageantry in a way that

1992
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 4: they just don't for other people, like something inside of

1993
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 4: them is motivated to be like, take her dress off,

1994
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 4: look at her. She's still black, y'all. Why y'all get

1995
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,480
Speaker 4: so excited.

1996
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: You hate her? Because at the end of the day,

1997
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 1: she is still black. And that's why I support her.

1998
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: And that's another reason why for me particularly, I stand

1999
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: for her.

2000
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 6: And I think a lot of people, even some black.

2001
01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: People's criticism towards her, to me, to an extent, it's unfair.

2002
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 1: I understand some critiques. I treat her similar to I

2003
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 1: treat President Obama. It's nothing she can do this right,

2004
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 1: and anything she does, everybody's gonna react strongly to it

2005
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 1: one way or another. You're gonna get think pieces, you're

2006
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna get articles, and this one of these things where

2007
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 1: you could have did it this way, you coulda did

2008
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: it that way. I thought this, and I thought that,

2009
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 1: and I feel as though not.

2010
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 6: That she can't talk for her, so she can.

2011
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's only certain things in

2012
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 1: my priviw that I'm gonna sound like, nah, bitch, what

2013
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna do is come over here, y y

2014
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 1: ya with that bullshit.

2015
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 4: It really feels kind of paternalistic too, because it's always

2016
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 4: this condescension in the in the conversation that it's like

2017
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 4: and of course her fans really just like, y'all really

2018
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 4: think she had got it, Like y'all really think she uh,

2019
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 4: y'all think y'all motherfucker is really in a cult? Right,

2020
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 4: y'all really like or we all just enjoying something. We

2021
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 4: just don't give fuck how people think about it, for like,

2022
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 4: can we have a moment where we just be like, oh,

2023
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 4: this black woman is the ship and we don't have

2024
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 4: to like break it down and turn it back into

2025
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 4: like she's just a nigga from Houston. Stop stop loving her?

2026
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 4: Like I don't know why they feel so threatened by it.

2027
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 3: This is there's the pro like that's something I do

2028
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 3: take issue with, But I also think that there's like

2029
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 3: there's an there's it's weird because I am somebody who's

2030
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 3: like who is who feels good about her, but not

2031
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 3: like I'm not a stand and so it's just it's

2032
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 3: bizarre that because even if you give the slightest criticism

2033
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 3: in a valid place, like I don't think that any

2034
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 3: criticism I would have had of Beyonce is is based

2035
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 3: in anything racial, and there's so there's so many extremes

2036
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 3: and it's such an extreme reaction to things. It's it is,

2037
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:58,920
Speaker 3: particularly with the Beehive with Beyonce, very extreme. Now I

2038
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 3: get the defensiveness because I too feel it. When I

2039
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 3: watched somebody be racist about Beyonce, like it's it's like,

2040
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 3: you know, it's really frustrating to watch, and I do

2041
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,639
Speaker 3: get defensive about her. But then at the same time,

2042
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 3: like I remember, you know, like kid Fury like one

2043
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 3: when she did that that that HBO documentary some years back.

2044
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 3: It was like wow, like this documentary was like amazing,

2045
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 3: and it was like the most it was like really

2046
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 3: deep and really really and I genuinely just found it

2047
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 3: like shallow and.

2048
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:35,879
Speaker 2: Not particularly revealing.

2049
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:39,600
Speaker 3: It was revealing relatively so, but she didn't do anything

2050
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 3: particularly I guess deep in it.

2051
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:46,679
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, she actually didn't reveal that much.

2052
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 3: And then he like quoted me on Twitter and it

2053
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:51,639
Speaker 3: was like he was like, what did you want her

2054
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 3: to pull out her tampon.

2055
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 2: In front of everybody?

2056
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 3: And I was like, I was like, no, she could

2057
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 3: have talked a little bit about her relationship with her

2058
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 3: father and her management in that regard, like and but

2059
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 3: my mentions were on fire for like uh for like

2060
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 3: a good day after that, And I'm like that part

2061
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 3: that's dumb. If an artist who is on purpose not

2062
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 3: revealing does a documentary that is on purpose not as

2063
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 3: revealing as documentaries tend to be, and I say, well,

2064
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 3: it's not that revealing.

2065
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 2: I shouldn't be attacked.

2066
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 3: For a day and a half with all kinds of wild,

2067
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 3: disrespectful names just because I said her documentary is not revealing.

2068
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,160
Speaker 3: And I do think that that's like a valid criticism

2069
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:39,839
Speaker 3: of the behid. Now when you're purposely poking the beehig,

2070
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 3: I mean, your criticisms are racist and things like that,

2071
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 3: you should be.

2072
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 2: Like called out for it.

2073
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 3: But I don't think that it's like saying that Beyonce

2074
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 3: is five to seven instead of saying she's five to eight.

2075
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 3: Shouldn't be worth you having to hide from the internet

2076
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 3: for twenty days that you know it.

2077
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 1: And I completely I agree. I think that I have

2078
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 1: of when people critique, I have a tendency to look

2079
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: at the source and where it's coming from. But I

2080
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 1: also think, in my personal opinion, the critique that you

2081
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 1: have is valid, but some of those same critiques are

2082
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,879
Speaker 1: some of the same critiques that people that are racist,

2083
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 1: and all these other groups attack.

2084
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 6: Them with these same critiques.

2085
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 1: And some people are like, well, I'm not I'm not

2086
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 1: shifting to see where is it coming from, if it's

2087
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: valid or not. I'm just I'm just gonna respond the

2088
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:35,719
Speaker 1: same quote unquote regardless, which is which is.

2089
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 6: How can I say this?

2090
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: But a lot of people have a tendency to do

2091
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:44,520
Speaker 1: that where where I'm okay, I get twenty five responses,

2092
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 1: yours is valid, but the other ones are not.

2093
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 6: I go, okay, I'm gonna up you in the same

2094
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:49,759
Speaker 6: group right.

2095
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 4: For one, Like, and I think people like you can't

2096
01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 4: get like that that matters to like, you know, the

2097
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 4: time and the shiit so like if a bunch is

2098
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 4: of like sometimes people be in my mentions and like

2099
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 4: a bunch of people being my mentions about something and

2100
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 4: maybe one person cause an approach it in a reasonable manner,

2101
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 4: but twenty five people just said Bernie Marshall King, and

2102
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 4: then you went did you know why Bernie Marshall King?

2103
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 4: And then you like, I can't believe heple like me?

2104
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:19,600
Speaker 4: Like is that moment where you're like, yeah, Tom, and

2105
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 4: is everything on that shit? But then also, and I

2106
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 4: think Ray was off the phone for this part. But

2107
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 4: I think her she's been meticulous about crafting her image.

2108
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 4: And I used to think it was vanity itself too,

2109
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 4: but now I just think it was self protection. I

2110
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 4: just think she was I.

2111
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 2: Think I don't.

2112
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 3: I mean, well, one like, if you're at all and

2113
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 3: if you're at all a pop star, your vain right,

2114
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,679
Speaker 3: like the idea that you are bold enough to think

2115
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 3: that you have a talent that the world should see.

2116
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 3: I'm I share in that vanity, Like that's fine, that

2117
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 3: doesn't bother me. I'm not worried about her vanity, and

2118
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:55,719
Speaker 3: I recognize the importance of, like of controlling your image,

2119
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 3: particularly somebody like her with the goals that she has.

2120
01:42:58,680 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that.

2121
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 3: I just think it's bizarre that there's such an extreme

2122
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 3: reaction to a disagreement because it doesn't it's she is

2123
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 3: a one of a kind, so maybe the protection of

2124
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 3: her is one of a kind too. I just think

2125
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 3: it's so weird because like it's just so funny, because like,

2126
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:20,759
Speaker 3: if you insult someone else, the reaction is so tepid.

2127
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:21,639
Speaker 2: It feels so limp.

2128
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 3: Like if you're like, oh, Mariah Carey's crazy, there'll be

2129
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 3: like ten people who might.

2130
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 2: Go crazy, like fuck you bitch, can you sing? Can

2131
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 2: you hold a note?

2132
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:34,680
Speaker 3: But it's like like, I don't know, when you say Beyonce,

2133
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,519
Speaker 3: it's like there's ten thousand people ready to swarm.

2134
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 4: It's very well, I'll say this, man, I you know,

2135
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 4: I haven't had that experience of being attacked by beyaf,

2136
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 4: so I don't know what it's like. I've been attacked

2137
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:46,720
Speaker 4: by different ways.

2138
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 3: I haven't really done much of I haven't done much

2139
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 3: of saying anything about Beyonce in public to the extent

2140
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 3: that I would, for precisely that reason that twenty twelve

2141
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 3: or whatever experience, I was like, okay, well let me

2142
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 3: not delve into this ever again.

2143
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 4: Well, it just seems like it feels also like a

2144
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 4: running joke that just got out of control, because like

2145
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 4: people act like the beehives out here, like gamer gag

2146
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:12,720
Speaker 4: and shit docks and people and fucking threatening to rape

2147
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 4: them and kill them and shit. What the most I've

2148
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 4: really seen is like somebody like these white women that

2149
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 4: write these articles, they'll have like one hundred people say.

2150
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 5: Something to them and here's here's here's what's funny.

2151
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 4: A lot of regular ass, just black people get thrown

2152
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 4: into the behive thing, and I think that's fucked up because, uh,

2153
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 4: somebody will be like, well what you said was like

2154
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:39,840
Speaker 4: for that Owen Benjamin dude when he said that she

2155
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 4: was promoting the Black Panthers and they were a terrorist organization,

2156
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 4: and I was on Twitter like, nigga, you this is

2157
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 4: fucking one, it's a lie. And then two, what like,

2158
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:53,920
Speaker 4: who the fuck are you to say what black people

2159
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 4: should be proud of? And all this shit? And then

2160
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure that that dude's like I was, a matter

2161
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 4: of fact, I listened to it podcast. Afterwards I was

2162
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:04,679
Speaker 4: attacked on Twitter by all these people, these stands beyond,

2163
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 4: and I'm like, that's not what the fuck happened. So

2164
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:10,600
Speaker 4: it's so like I think, you, like, people want to

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01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 4: have nuance in a situation where the nuance being left

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01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 4: the building, like it's been like the time for the

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01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 4: nuance was a long time ago, and it's just not

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01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 4: capable in the current environment because you know, like I've

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01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 4: talked to Jail Covn and like sometimes he'll be like

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01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 4: talking about the awards, like Oscars or something, and like,

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01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 4: I remember one year he was saying, how like Selma

2172
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 4: getting snubbed for like Best Director, like it didn't really

2173
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 4: deserve that shit, And I was like, what the fuck

2174
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:43,799
Speaker 4: are you doing doing white supremacies work for it? Like honestly,

2175
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 4: like literally there's no other movie. They didn't even nominate

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01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 4: all that they could. They left that shit blank. Like

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01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 4: and then years now it's been two years later and

2178
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 4: he's like, Wow, I was wrong. That shit was really good.

2179
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 4: And I don't know what I was talking about. Cool,

2180
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 4: I just knew it at the time, right, I was

2181
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 4: just ahead of heard the curve on that. But the

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01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 4: point being, why the fuck are we justifying what white

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01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 4: folks think for like what like what's the game? What's

2184
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 4: the end game? Or that? Like, all right, man, you

2185
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 4: got us.

2186
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 2: The documentary is doing white people's work. I'm not.

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01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about you.

2188
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not talking about you.

2189
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm literally not talking about you right now.

2190
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 4: Like that that's not a This is not a response

2191
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 4: to you're not liking a documentary. I don't you know,

2192
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 4: But I think what happens is you have these like

2193
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 4: folks that are coming from her strictly on are like

2194
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 4: she's I don't like how black ass doing this ship,

2195
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 4: And then you have people that aren't kind of like, well,

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01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:40,679
Speaker 4: I just don't agree with this or I just don't

2197
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 4: think this is as dope as y'all think it is.

2198
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 4: And what happens is you have like people that have

2199
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 4: been reacting to white folks, say the most fucked Up Ship,

2200
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 4: also reacting to other people like kind of coming in

2201
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 4: on some like man type shit too. So it's it's

2202
01:46:56,640 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 4: like it's like the time for nuance and all that

2203
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 4: shit is just it's done, like's there's no there's no

2204
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 4: nuance to it, you know, And it's just And the

2205
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 4: reason I was bringing up the jail ships because I

2206
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,560
Speaker 4: was gonna say, it's just like when she lost the

2207
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 4: Grammy to Beck and people start being, well, he plays

2208
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 4: non instruments and shit, it's like, Yo, why are you

2209
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 4: doing this work for them? You know what I mean? Like,

2210
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 4: what's the end game of this? Because you know, the

2211
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 4: dice never rolls her way on that ship, and we

2212
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,560
Speaker 4: know it's because she's black, Like so you know she

2213
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 4: making this black ass music, Like what and what would that?

2214
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 4: So what would you okay, guys, we agree Beck Beck's

2215
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 4: the fucking greatest. I'll never listen to his album again.

2216
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 4: And he played no instrument and you didn't even listen

2217
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 4: to it. You just justified it because you need to

2218
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 4: justify this result. That's kind of how the shit feels

2219
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,600
Speaker 4: it And I think that's why people feel like she

2220
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 4: attacked all the time, and that's why people go off.

2221
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:51,839
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone should be attacking you or anyone

2222
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 4: that disagrees with the doctor, like I don't you know,

2223
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 4: I mean, y'all, Nigga's my friends, y'all. That's see all

2224
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 4: kinds of shit where people are like, I ain't think

2225
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 4: this thing about beyonest. I'm like, I don't really give

2226
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 4: a fuck like we it's subjective, you know, like I

2227
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 4: don't want to I don't bother to engage you because

2228
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 4: it is subjective. But at the same time, I when

2229
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 4: I do see this shit, like you know, these pieces,

2230
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 4: I can't help but notice the pattern. And I feel like,

2231
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 4: if we can't at least see that pattern, then what's

2232
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 4: the fucking point of even discussing any man?

2233
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 6: Right, And it's.

2234
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Also one of the things where I guess just me

2235
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 1: being a Beyonce fan, it's one of these things where

2236
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 1: and not that you were doing this, Ray Sani, but

2237
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 1: for some reason, for Beyonce fans, they feel like anytime

2238
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 1: almost like that because Beyonce and I've always said, like this,

2239
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,360
Speaker 1: anything Beyonce does, it's.

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Speaker 6: Black women party time.

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01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,640
Speaker 1: Okay, kick that real, it's black women party time for

2242
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:53,639
Speaker 1: most black women, and so a lot of times it's

2243
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: black women party time, black women's fun. And anytime I

2244
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:00,080
Speaker 1: can even sometimes even in real life, you say I

2245
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 1: like Beyonce automatically get attacked.

2246
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 6: Now I'm not saying this.

2247
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 4: Let's get into some type of debate, right, let's talk

2248
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 4: about Let's talk about where I don't like about her,

2249
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 4: and so I have that happen on my page every

2250
01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:13,640
Speaker 4: time I share a Beyonce an article, and it'd be

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01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:16,719
Speaker 4: the same fucking people like, uh, you know, I don't

2252
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 4: really get her. I don't give a funk. This is

2253
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 4: like the seventieth times you told me that you can't relate.

2254
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 4: I honestly don't care. It's not like you say this

2255
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 4: ship when I'm like, I like Transformers, like just stop,

2256
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 4: We're never gonna I know you want to have this

2257
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 4: argument in this discussion, but it's just a light Trump.

2258
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 4: Just stop trolling me.

2259
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 1: Dog. I'm cool with us not being I'm cool with

2260
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 1: us not talking about it. We don't have to be

2261
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 1: a one accord on everything, right.

2262
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:42,559
Speaker 6: And Ray, that's my point.

2263
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: And so it's one of those things where you got

2264
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:49,200
Speaker 1: grouped in with the people that constantly attack somebody, particularly

2265
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 1: black women, to say I love Beyonce and Beyonce stands

2266
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 1: have always depth, even in I can say I like

2267
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 1: Beyonce at work. I haven't said it out loud, but

2268
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 1: I heard people talk about I don't like that bit. Yeah, yeah,

2269
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 1: you go. Okay, I'm not even gonna talk to you

2270
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 1: because I don't want to fall out with you at work,

2271
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, and this.

2272
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 6: One and and and and and and.

2273
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 1: This anger isn't towards you, because I understand your critique

2274
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 1: is coming from a different point. But people who who

2275
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 1: want to have these nuanced conversations fatter realize it's a

2276
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 1: lot of motherfuckers out there just just anti Beyonce. And

2277
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 1: so it's one of these things where every time I'm

2278
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 1: having fun, every time I fucking party in, anytime I.

2279
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 6: Put a picture up about her.

2280
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 1: Anytime I say be high, anytime I put up a

2281
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 1: being eliminated emotion anytime I take fucking anything about her,

2282
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 1: just out of happiness.

2283
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 6: Here, you motherfuckers come.

2284
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 1: You deal with the goddamn white women and these fucking

2285
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 1: think pieces. You deal with the goddamn hotels and they

2286
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 1: fucking think pieces. You have them going out the goddamn

2287
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 1: radio shows and on the end of day saying the

2288
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 1: most stupid, ignorant ship about a black woman.

2289
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:54,639
Speaker 6: And that's the And see, that's the thing.

2290
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 1: People like you, ray Sonni. And when you say these things,

2291
01:50:57,560 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 1: you're not coming.

2292
01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 6: From a mean and malicious place. These other people are.

2293
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 1: There are some black women out there that anti Beyonce

2294
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 1: because they quote Onquo.

2295
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 6: A lot of them, now all of them are. Some

2296
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 6: black women just don't like Beyonce, and that's valid. But

2297
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 6: a lot of these black women are.

2298
01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 1: Pick me, pick me people, so they go, well, y'all,

2299
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: bitches like Beyonce, I don't pick me, niggas pick me.

2300
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 6: You know I'm not saying single ladies.

2301
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 1: You know I'm different. I'm a special snowflake. There are

2302
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 1: black women that purposely and strategically hate on Beyonce because

2303
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 1: they no other black women love Beyonce, so they gotta

2304
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:30,719
Speaker 1: be come.

2305
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 6: On over here, hotel, niggas.

2306
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 2: I just want to dick.

2307
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 6: I know you don't respect me, I know you don't

2308
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 6: love me. I just want to have.

2309
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:38,879
Speaker 1: A dick so I can tell all these other bitches

2310
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 1: that you ain't shit.

2311
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 6: This is what a lot of this stems from. This

2312
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 6: is just my opinion and how I feel about it.

2313
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 1: So for me, I stand up for her because I'm like,

2314
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: what you ain't gonna do is.

2315
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 6: Come over here and motherfucker shit on my prey. That's

2316
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 6: what you're not gonna do.

2317
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 4: Just acknowledge that she is the true king. The other

2318
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 4: North that's always saying, why can't you understand she is

2319
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 4: the chosen one and she didn't hear to deliver us

2320
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,519
Speaker 4: and y'all need to stop the nine bullshit Jesus right right.

2321
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 1: And like I said, it's one of the things where

2322
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't really have this problem, but it's one of

2323
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 1: those things where and I don't know if you're gonna

2324
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: talk about it. This is why I stand for Beyonce

2325
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: and why I stand for Serena.

2326
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 6: And I don't know a goddamn thing about tennis.

2327
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't know if

2328
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 1: fucking I even took tennis in college.

2329
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:22,680
Speaker 6: I don't know the score. I don't know nothing. But

2330
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 6: all I know.

2331
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 1: Is when it comes to Beyonce and Serena, anytime they

2332
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 1: do a motherfucking thing, the same goddamn group of people

2333
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 1: get up that they just lose their fucking mind.

2334
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 6: I don't care what they do.

2335
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:39,679
Speaker 1: They can breathe too hard that if for the fact

2336
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 1: that they walk up this morning and put their feet

2337
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 1: on the floor.

2338
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 6: It's a goddamn think piece.

2339
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 1: That bullshit gets old when it comes to fucking black women.

2340
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:48,559
Speaker 6: Just let them goddamn be.

2341
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:50,439
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I almost forgot Colin.

2342
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,280
Speaker 4: Tanna said she's just a model and the reason she

2343
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:55,959
Speaker 4: lost the Grammy is because she can't.

2344
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:59,840
Speaker 2: Sing right, and so bizarre that one shocks me.

2345
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got black white too, so he can't he

2346
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 4: can't be racist guys. He's like, yeah, he like like

2347
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 4: he like Malopolis and Bill Maher, HEU black people, so

2348
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 4: he can't be you know what.

2349
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 2: I have a theory about that. I don't know if

2350
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna talk about it, but I have a theory.

2351
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 3: That Milo doesn't actually any black guys, and he's making

2352
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:27,320
Speaker 3: that up because because one I've never seen a photo

2353
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 3: of him with a black ever. And two, I hope,

2354
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 3: I hope for our race it at at on a whole,

2355
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 3: like at large, that we not fucking.

2356
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 2: Dudes who look like Milo Y. I like, how.

2357
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:45,559
Speaker 4: Essentially it's uh, you know, it's funny because Lena Dunham

2358
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 4: did this a couple of weeks ago about Drake, But

2359
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 4: it's essentially this, I worshiped black dick, So how could

2360
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 4: I be racist?

2361
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

2362
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 3: Like, I'm like, well, slave masters raped black women does

2363
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:57,840
Speaker 3: mean they love them?

2364
01:53:58,720 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 6: No, it doesn't.

2365
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 1: And I think for me when he says that shit,

2366
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 1: it it infuriates me personally because it's got them mediocre

2367
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 1: ass white women that can't sing shit. Taylor Swift is

2368
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 1: a primary example. This is why a lot of people

2369
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 1: have issues with goddamn Taylor Swift. Okay, Taylor Swift can't

2370
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:21,639
Speaker 1: fucking sing. She's one album of the year, motherfucking twice.

2371
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 1: She was a country singer. She changed your whole image.

2372
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 1: Now she sings fucking pop. But Beyonce quote unquote cross

2373
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 1: his genre and everybody lose their motherfucking mind.

2374
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 4: It's not like it's not like adele Wins. Every year,

2375
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like it's someone like Adele

2376
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 4: that's just like this huge booming vocalist wins every year.

2377
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 4: Like have these fucking artists you like? Wait rka fire

2378
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 4: Like what who like?

2379
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 2: Is that? Yeah? You know what I mean?

2380
01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 5: Back, like is he like some amazing talented singer?

2381
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 4: Like it's not It's doesn't come down to vocals like

2382
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 4: and also stage when you have like a performance, dancing's

2383
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 4: part of this performance, presentations part of this fucking performance.

2384
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 4: The way you dress it part of his performance and

2385
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 4: can sing, so like.

2386
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 2: What the fun?

2387
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 3: That's that's where the liars. It's very apparent that he

2388
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 3: has decided he doesn't like her and doesn't and doesn't

2389
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 3: listen to her.

2390
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 2: I think that's that's probably what happened.

2391
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 4: I bet he would love to do a fucking if

2392
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 4: he did another one, no compilation.

2393
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:23,480
Speaker 2: Let.

2394
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 6: God right, he'd be the first thing.

2395
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 4: He'd beat all the first fucking playing.

2396
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 1: Smoking right, Because the thing about beyond as much as

2397
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 1: these people criticize her and she if her people give

2398
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 1: you a phone call, everybody's running, everybody's jumping, everybody's want

2399
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 1: to be on her next ship because because she's so

2400
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 1: future thinking, you know that you're gonna make some money

2401
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 1: off of her blackness, the girl from Houston.

2402
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 4: How many people don't deleted a rackaucking tweets because they

2403
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 4: got that call? You know what I mean? Oh, Ship,

2404
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 4: I gotta get all the Ship said, Oh God, you

2405
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 4: know I don't have a Twitter account. They don't.

2406
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 5: It's because Beyonce, if she already did the research like.

2407
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 6: Her people have people research.

2408
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 4: In spite of what you said, Beyonce would like to work.

2409
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 3: With you, there was a lot of like I do

2410
01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 3: I do credit her with this. I think this is

2411
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:22,440
Speaker 3: like really cool with her and Solange. They they know what's.

2412
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 2: Happening out there.

2413
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 3: It's very like like Beyonce will always have like the

2414
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 3: biggest meme, uh you know, to a song or whatever

2415
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 3: in a concert or something, or Solange will like feature

2416
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 3: like or like even this was like when I got

2417
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 3: really excited when Beyonce did the Super Bowl they had

2418
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 3: her backstage twirling, gone with the wind.

2419
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 2: Fabulous, like can you have from Real Housewives?

2420
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 3: I love stuff like that.

2421
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:53,960
Speaker 4: And even her like black Lives Matter, like her post

2422
01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 4: on her site the name the names of the people

2423
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 4: who been killed by the police, and Ship like even

2424
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 4: moments like that because we just don't really expect that

2425
01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 4: from pop stars and shit, and she didn't have to,

2426
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 4: Like there's so many that just don't have to say anything,

2427
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:17,120
Speaker 4: and they skatebomb really not saying anything. So yeah, Like

2428
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:21,120
Speaker 4: there's moments where I'm just like, yeah, she she love us,

2429
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 4: so you know. And and I think with every black

2430
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 4: person in the public eye, if you love black people,

2431
01:57:27,480 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 4: there has to be a price paid for that. And

2432
01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 4: maybe I get a bit defensive because I don't want

2433
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 4: to see anybody pay a price for that.

2434
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 6: Right.

2435
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 1: It's one of these days where Beyonce, you made an

2436
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 1: all black album and it wouldn't about me as white woman.

2437
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 6: It comes with things why you bringing a race?

2438
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 4: Why everybody? There's a betrayal.

2439
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 1: There, right, and and and and and this is why

2440
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 1: you have all these pieces in the audi because a

2441
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:55,480
Speaker 1: lot of white women have have been feeling some form

2442
01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:56,120
Speaker 1: of betrayal.

2443
01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 6: It started with the album.

2444
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 4: Previous Beyond for.

2445
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 6: Feminism, because all of a sudden black feminism.

2446
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that ship were all the

2447
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:09,320
Speaker 1: same to now, oh shit, you ain't even really thinking

2448
01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 1: about me this album, and white women are losing their

2449
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 1: fucking minds that don't know how to react. I don't

2450
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:17,040
Speaker 1: know how to respond because they because in their mind

2451
01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 1: quote unquote, she was.

2452
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 6: There queen too.

2453
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 1: They don't want to admit that, but all of a

2454
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:23,160
Speaker 1: sudden they lost their queen and their queen became black.

2455
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 1: Oh she was black the whole time, but I could

2456
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,879
Speaker 1: ignore her blackness and sit up on a pedestal.

2457
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 4: And it's that retroactive betrayal because what I think a

2458
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 4: lot of it went through was going back through the

2459
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,920
Speaker 4: catalog like, well, was this shit ever for just me?

2460
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:38,680
Speaker 4: Like I thought this was for all of us. Were

2461
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 4: all getting information, Beyonce, I ain't know the these black

2462
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 4: women was about to get in my ship. I thought

2463
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 4: it was cool.

2464
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 3: What's so interesting about that framing even, is that the

2465
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 3: assumption that like art for black women can't be for

2466
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 3: white women too, And it's like, this is.

2467
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 2: For all of us.

2468
01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 3: It's about me, right, But isn't that always how music is?

2469
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:07,880
Speaker 3: It's about me, but it's for your consumption, but it's

2470
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 3: about me. And it's so bizarre too that like that,

2471
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 3: like when a person kind of goes, this is about

2472
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:19,680
Speaker 3: me when we've what we've demanded of an artist in

2473
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 3: any capacity to say to be more revealing and be

2474
01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:27,760
Speaker 3: more about themselves that that certain kinds of about me

2475
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:29,240
Speaker 3: makes it.

2476
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 2: Not for you anymore. That's so kind of fucked.

2477
01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 3: Up if you think about it, sixty forty, Like what

2478
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 3: what's that?

2479
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 4: That's that sixty forty sixty forty year old? Like once once,

2480
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 4: like once six of something becomes black that it's white,

2481
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:50,480
Speaker 4: people leave like it's all sixty forty Like it's just

2482
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 4: music like that too.

2483
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 2: Like people believe that's actually super accurate.

2484
01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 6: And it and it goes to a lot of things.

2485
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 1: Music, neighborhood you need, then it's your school system, Like

2486
02:00:03,160 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people to realize it's the restaurant she

2487
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 1: get in. I don't think a lot of people realize

2488
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 1: how detrimental that rule is, and a lot of people

2489
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:13,160
Speaker 1: apply that. They might see it and they might know

2490
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 1: that it exists, but they don't really realize that how

2491
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:18,200
Speaker 1: real it is. And that's why a lot of times

2492
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:21,040
Speaker 1: people cater towards white people. And like you say, if

2493
02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:23,920
Speaker 1: black people go over forty percent, all of a sudden,

2494
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 1: it's that white flight, and all of a sudden, your

2495
02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:29,000
Speaker 1: restaurant or whatever it is that you're doing becomes a

2496
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 1: black thing.

2497
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 6: And there's nothing wrong with it being a black thing.

2498
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:34,640
Speaker 1: But for some reason, white people go, I can't relate

2499
02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:35,560
Speaker 1: to blackness, But.

2500
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:38,080
Speaker 6: Black people are always required to relate to whiteness.

2501
02:00:38,080 --> 02:00:40,080
Speaker 2: We're required to understand whiteness.

2502
02:00:40,280 --> 02:00:44,280
Speaker 1: We're required to consume whiteness. We're required to understand shit

2503
02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:45,760
Speaker 1: that ain't got nothing to do with us. That's why,

2504
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, white people come and talking about rocking, I

2505
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about rock.

2506
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:50,840
Speaker 6: They look at you like something wrong with you. But

2507
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:52,200
Speaker 6: if you talk to them about.

2508
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 1: Something it's quote unquotes some black shit, all of a

2509
02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 1: sudden they can't relate and they don't understand. You know,

2510
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,840
Speaker 1: you even talking about that concept because even when it

2511
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:06,240
Speaker 1: comes to television and music, black people have always been

2512
02:01:06,280 --> 02:01:10,280
Speaker 1: required to listen and consume things and put themselves in

2513
02:01:10,320 --> 02:01:14,720
Speaker 1: it and understand the perspective, even though it's not about them.

2514
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:16,720
Speaker 6: White people have it's never been required to do that

2515
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:17,280
Speaker 6: in reverse.

2516
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:22,440
Speaker 3: It's a weird paradox because you know, blackness is niche

2517
02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:25,800
Speaker 3: and then not at all, right, it pervades everything, like

2518
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:29,920
Speaker 3: everything like American culture is black culture ultimately, but then

2519
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 3: it's it. But then when it's overtly so we've been

2520
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:39,320
Speaker 3: reduced to like marginalized, like a marginalized kind of niche genre.

2521
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 3: It's the honest thing to try to contemplate, because the

2522
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:47,640
Speaker 3: idea that Beyonce's album is too black but it sold

2523
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:50,360
Speaker 3: so well is a thing that is hard to wrap

2524
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 3: your mind around. But it's like that's the American way

2525
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 3: that this really black thing is everywhere and for everybody.

2526
02:01:58,400 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 2: But like me.

2527
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:05,640
Speaker 4: Was, so was rock and roll, so was jazz, so

2528
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 4: was the bulls. White people can send in themselves anything,

2529
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:11,680
Speaker 4: amy shouldn't put ourselves in a formation video like they

2530
02:02:11,720 --> 02:02:15,560
Speaker 4: don't they they I don't think it. That's how privilege works.

2531
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:17,520
Speaker 4: It doesn't have a pass your mind that it can't

2532
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:21,040
Speaker 4: be for you until it's explicitly not for you, and

2533
02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 4: then it's like what the fuck fuck you? You know what

2534
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:24,680
Speaker 4: I mean?

2535
02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:28,880
Speaker 3: Like it's it's a boundary setting that offense. Yeah, it's

2536
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:30,800
Speaker 3: sort of that, like, oh, now you tell me I

2537
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 3: can't do something or I have to respect something.

2538
02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 1: Well, fuck it right, right, And it's one of those

2539
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:41,240
Speaker 1: things where black people never told white people you couldn't

2540
02:02:41,280 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 1: be here.

2541
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:44,400
Speaker 6: All we're saying is that don't bring your white ass.

2542
02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:46,400
Speaker 1: Over here and take the ship over like like like

2543
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:47,800
Speaker 1: that black people have.

2544
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:51,720
Speaker 6: Black people don't mind, like we do not mind.

2545
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 1: But black people's, i mean, white people's whole history has

2546
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:57,960
Speaker 1: always been to come and fucking conquer. We understand how

2547
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:01,400
Speaker 1: history works. You conquered America. Where you go, you fucking

2548
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 1: conquer it. You take it over, and you conquer shit.

2549
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 1: That's why black people fight.

2550
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:07,800
Speaker 2: Just hold on to the shoe.

2551
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:11,160
Speaker 3: It's like you've conquered something, and then you designate the

2552
02:03:11,240 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 3: place that you've conquered is yours, and then you make

2553
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 3: it so that other people can't come in.

2554
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:19,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I always I have this. One of the things

2555
02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:23,840
Speaker 4: I always wonder is if Beyonce would have been married

2556
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 4: to like a white dude, if she would have got

2557
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:29,040
Speaker 4: this kind of pushback, you know, like if she hadn't

2558
02:03:29,040 --> 02:03:34,920
Speaker 4: a pick this niggah, like essentially like this big nose

2559
02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:40,120
Speaker 4: New York drug dealer rapping ass nigga. I wonder if

2560
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:41,200
Speaker 4: they would have eased up.

2561
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:45,600
Speaker 3: I feel like that I think that she's so I

2562
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 3: think she's so visible as an individual at this point

2563
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:51,960
Speaker 3: that like, even if that were the case, she's being

2564
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 3: attacked on the maritime of her own blackness by herself.

2565
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 3: It's not like what her blackness melded with because jay

2566
02:03:58,360 --> 02:04:00,680
Speaker 3: Z is such a background player at this point that

2567
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 3: I think it's just like, I forget.

2568
02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:04,280
Speaker 2: That her husband is a rapper.

2569
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:07,200
Speaker 3: I just think about her daughter and her a lot

2570
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:07,960
Speaker 3: and her sister.

2571
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 2: I like, he is just like some man.

2572
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:14,720
Speaker 3: And and by the time they were out and about

2573
02:04:14,720 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 3: with their marriage, I mean, he had done like Empire

2574
02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 3: state that you know, that New York song or whatever,

2575
02:04:19,720 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 3: Empire state of Mind or whatever, and he had done

2576
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 3: his own cross over shit. I think that they used

2577
02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:26,680
Speaker 3: that his that he used to be a drug dealer

2578
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 3: against him just because they like, you know, so they'll

2579
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:32,880
Speaker 3: say on Fox News or something, they'll be like, well,

2580
02:04:32,920 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 3: she used to be dating a pimp or.

2581
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 2: And I don't remember him saying he was a pimp,

2582
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:39,640
Speaker 2: but they'll do that when they have nothing else.

2583
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:43,120
Speaker 3: But I think that they're they're bothered on the merits

2584
02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 3: of her own blackness, you know what I mean, Like

2585
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:47,520
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter that she's married to a rapper, because

2586
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:50,280
Speaker 3: we haven't even gotten past the fact that she had

2587
02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:52,360
Speaker 3: a black panther.

2588
02:04:52,120 --> 02:04:54,400
Speaker 2: Homage at the Super Bowl, you know what I mean.

2589
02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:56,720
Speaker 3: They don't even get to jay Z anymore because there's

2590
02:04:56,760 --> 02:05:00,960
Speaker 3: so much Beyonce on her own to sift through before

2591
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:03,040
Speaker 3: the racism trick goes down to her husband.

2592
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:05,200
Speaker 6: And you know what, I.

2593
02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:09,200
Speaker 1: Agree with Ray sani Ak Serena Williams because you know,

2594
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 1: but day but people don't give a fuck. It's all

2595
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:17,880
Speaker 1: about it, particularly black women. Black men might be a

2596
02:05:17,960 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 1: different story because there's someone from a privilege there, not

2597
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:23,480
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't get attacked, but black men don't get

2598
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:27,160
Speaker 1: attacked on certain things to the same racism, yes, but

2599
02:05:27,560 --> 02:05:32,040
Speaker 1: black women happening with racism and sexism all combined in one.

2600
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:36,360
Speaker 1: With with Serena, it's like these white dudes, particularly those

2601
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:39,720
Speaker 1: who are physically attractive to her, are going, hey, how

2602
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:42,000
Speaker 1: dare you? I think you're attractive, but you need to

2603
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 1: stick to your own race. I think you're attractive, but

2604
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:45,320
Speaker 1: why you're marrying this white man?

2605
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:46,400
Speaker 6: You know? Then you have the.

2606
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:49,400
Speaker 1: Hotel niggas going, I think you're attractive, Why you're marrying

2607
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:50,080
Speaker 1: this white man?

2608
02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:50,680
Speaker 6: You know?

2609
02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 1: And then you deal with the white people going that

2610
02:05:54,560 --> 02:05:57,040
Speaker 1: are racist, going, you're racist, You're a lucky man, your

2611
02:05:57,080 --> 02:06:01,240
Speaker 1: lucky grilla like and and all this critique that comes

2612
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:04,760
Speaker 1: at her in comes at Beyonce, and maybe.

2613
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:05,200
Speaker 5: That's a good point.

2614
02:06:05,280 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 4: She's definitely not protected about the fact that she's engaged

2615
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:11,920
Speaker 4: with a white dude, right, there's no yeah, there's no

2616
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 4: leverage given to that.

2617
02:06:13,800 --> 02:06:15,840
Speaker 2: Well, I find you know what's so interesting.

2618
02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:21,440
Speaker 3: I think Beyonce's excellence is like intimidating and worries someome

2619
02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:24,200
Speaker 3: for a lot of people. But I think maybe I

2620
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 3: stand for Serena a little more because like, Serena beats

2621
02:06:29,480 --> 02:06:33,040
Speaker 3: other people, right, Like Beyonce's art is a collective win,

2622
02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 3: right right, But like literally, there is a white woman

2623
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:40,480
Speaker 3: who is going to lose to Serena in embarrassing fashion,

2624
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 3: and it's just like she is just winning, like she is.

2625
02:06:46,640 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 3: There is there is a score to measure her success

2626
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 3: over white people, and so I feel like if anything

2627
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:56,280
Speaker 3: I see, like on Twitter, I find that the white

2628
02:06:56,360 --> 02:07:00,200
Speaker 3: response to Serena is more vitriolic for precisely that, and

2629
02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:03,400
Speaker 3: she's darker and fuller in shape as well.

2630
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:05,760
Speaker 2: But but yeah, like I think maybe I.

2631
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:08,520
Speaker 3: Feel protective of Serena in a different way, maybe more

2632
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:11,680
Speaker 3: than like more so the way that you guys feel Beyonce,

2633
02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:15,440
Speaker 3: because Serena is winning and you're still denying her, and

2634
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:17,600
Speaker 3: Beyonce can be a matter of taste. You know, there's

2635
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:20,960
Speaker 3: room for I know you say that there's the nuance left,

2636
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:24,400
Speaker 3: but for saying people there's still a chance at nuance.

2637
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 6: Right.

2638
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:27,120
Speaker 2: But like with Serena, there are numbers.

2639
02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:29,720
Speaker 3: We have exes and oh, we have ones and zeros,

2640
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:32,320
Speaker 3: you know, we have wins and losses columns, and they

2641
02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:36,600
Speaker 3: still try to come up with ways that this rule

2642
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:40,000
Speaker 3: that we've all agreed that winning means having more points

2643
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:42,560
Speaker 3: than the other person, they still kind of come up

2644
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,000
Speaker 3: with ways to invalidate that.

2645
02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:46,160
Speaker 2: And that's what is shocking to me.

2646
02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:49,320
Speaker 3: It's basically a denial of reality to say that Serena

2647
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 3: is not as great as she is, or to say

2648
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:54,360
Speaker 3: why you don't like Well, it's fine to not like something,

2649
02:07:54,440 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 3: but to be like racist about your descriptions and not

2650
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:01,960
Speaker 3: liking it is probably I feel Marshans because I saw

2651
02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:05,000
Speaker 3: an essay somebody wrote.

2652
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:05,920
Speaker 4: I didn't read it.

2653
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:07,440
Speaker 3: Because I was like, oh, I didn't have time for this,

2654
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:09,400
Speaker 3: But it was like, you know, Serena just posed for

2655
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 3: the Sports Illustrated.

2656
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,160
Speaker 4: I'm about to read this. I'm about to read it.

2657
02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:16,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, we're doing this care But go ahead, I.

2658
02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:22,280
Speaker 1: Say you and I agree with what you're saying Ray Sani,

2659
02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 1: but I feel like this.

2660
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 6: I think for me, yes, there is a difference.

2661
02:08:26,080 --> 02:08:29,839
Speaker 1: You do have numbers and statistics and stats for Serena,

2662
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 1: but I guess I look from it. I look at

2663
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 1: it from a black woman, a black woman being attacked

2664
02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:39,440
Speaker 1: for excellence, like like like I don't look at numbers

2665
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:41,560
Speaker 1: of stats and statistics because the thing you can you

2666
02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:45,080
Speaker 1: can turn around and say about Beyonce, Beyonce, every toy

2667
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:47,080
Speaker 1: she goes on is fucking sold down.

2668
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:51,360
Speaker 6: Every tour she goes on, it's normally.

2669
02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 4: Every number one head.

2670
02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:54,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.

2671
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:57,400
Speaker 3: Because I'm not disagreeing with that as a concept. I

2672
02:08:57,480 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 3: just mean like there's a denial reality that happens, more

2673
02:09:02,440 --> 02:09:04,960
Speaker 3: so when you can look at someone's win and lost

2674
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:07,360
Speaker 3: column and say it's still not that great. I mean,

2675
02:09:07,480 --> 02:09:11,080
Speaker 3: like with Beyonce, because art is subjective. It's art, and

2676
02:09:11,160 --> 02:09:13,880
Speaker 3: like you can like something or not like it, and

2677
02:09:13,880 --> 02:09:16,840
Speaker 3: that's the fundamentals of ingesting art.

2678
02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean obviously said.

2679
02:09:18,040 --> 02:09:21,600
Speaker 4: I'm about that. I'm about to blow your mind though. Okay,

2680
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:23,880
Speaker 4: this is why Balls These Sports is the best sports

2681
02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:28,360
Speaker 4: podcast all time. Sports is sports is subjective, Like like

2682
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:32,480
Speaker 4: that's the thing people like I think once you kind

2683
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 4: of step outside of a box, look at how people

2684
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:36,960
Speaker 4: still are you, Like it's Tom Brady the greatest wout

2685
02:09:37,520 --> 02:09:40,640
Speaker 4: there's still people that think like pay Like there are

2686
02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:43,160
Speaker 4: people that think Michael Jordan's the greatest NBA player all time,

2687
02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:46,680
Speaker 4: but Bill Russell has more rings, or they.

2688
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:49,360
Speaker 5: Count Lebron James losing in the finals.

2689
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:51,680
Speaker 4: Like there's just so many ways to look at something

2690
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:55,440
Speaker 4: and it's really just like a rush test of ship.

2691
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:57,600
Speaker 4: And people do that with Serena sometimes too, where they

2692
02:09:57,640 --> 02:10:00,160
Speaker 4: try to like yeah, like because I think she's the

2693
02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:02,560
Speaker 4: greatest living athlete on the planet, Like I don't, like

2694
02:10:03,440 --> 02:10:05,640
Speaker 4: you know, but then there's people that yeah, well, I

2695
02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:08,320
Speaker 4: mean it's not like she's going out there dunking on

2696
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:10,320
Speaker 4: shack and I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?

2697
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:13,720
Speaker 3: So so, but like even just I agree with that,

2698
02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:16,360
Speaker 3: I agree with that, but like even but like I mean,

2699
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:20,080
Speaker 3: just like the denial of reality I'm getting that is

2700
02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:24,760
Speaker 3: like to literally watch her game, see the numbers, see

2701
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 3: her win columns, see and go no, like.

2702
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:31,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's well that's the thing. They don't attack on

2703
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:34,640
Speaker 4: that merit. They attack on like her body, like why

2704
02:10:34,720 --> 02:10:37,040
Speaker 4: like why you how you gonna want women to make

2705
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 4: as much money as me, and but you would on

2706
02:10:39,040 --> 02:10:41,960
Speaker 4: a throng like it's that like they're still finding a

2707
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:45,080
Speaker 4: way around those fucking numbers because they don't like she

2708
02:10:45,480 --> 02:10:48,720
Speaker 4: like you can be excellent at whatever, But they're gonna

2709
02:10:48,720 --> 02:10:50,680
Speaker 4: find a way to give Beck the grammy is the point,

2710
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:53,280
Speaker 4: Like they're gonna find a way to say, Sheryl Pova

2711
02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:56,440
Speaker 4: did this right, but Serena did this wrong.

2712
02:10:56,600 --> 02:11:01,280
Speaker 3: That's it's the invalidation of what I guess I'm articulating myself. Well,

2713
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:04,880
Speaker 3: it's just that there is a number that we normally

2714
02:11:05,040 --> 02:11:05,640
Speaker 3: refer to.

2715
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:09,080
Speaker 2: We normally refer to these numbers, and in.

2716
02:11:09,080 --> 02:11:13,760
Speaker 3: Every other instance you would refer to these numbers, but

2717
02:11:14,040 --> 02:11:16,760
Speaker 3: you don't want to refer to these numbers, and it

2718
02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 3: is a denial of the truth. Therefore reality on some

2719
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:23,840
Speaker 3: alternative fact thing. It's like, well, it is, well, the

2720
02:11:24,080 --> 02:11:26,800
Speaker 3: unfair advantage is that she's built like a horse, And

2721
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:30,680
Speaker 3: it's like, well, every athlete has an unfair advantage because

2722
02:11:30,680 --> 02:11:34,200
Speaker 3: they're physically better humans than the rest of society. So

2723
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:38,640
Speaker 3: do we invalidate any athletic accomplished because accomplishment because they

2724
02:11:38,640 --> 02:11:41,800
Speaker 3: were born with this a set of genetics that makes

2725
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:44,080
Speaker 3: them better equipped to do something than we are.

2726
02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 2: So it's just it's just interesting to watch.

2727
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:50,280
Speaker 4: We read an article a couple of years ago where

2728
02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:54,920
Speaker 4: someone said the reason Serena Williams was winning wasn't that

2729
02:11:55,760 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 4: she was necessarily better at tennis skill wise, it was

2730
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:02,960
Speaker 4: that she or gold for femininity with her body, and

2731
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:06,800
Speaker 4: white women would not do so because white women, uh,

2732
02:12:07,080 --> 02:12:08,800
Speaker 4: prefer to be more attractive.

2733
02:12:09,800 --> 02:12:12,440
Speaker 3: It does doesn't that make them losers? I don't know

2734
02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:14,720
Speaker 3: why that's a positive, but it's.

2735
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:18,440
Speaker 4: The one way you can measure her wins and go, yeah,

2736
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:21,520
Speaker 4: but she wouldn't have gotten those wins if white women

2737
02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:26,480
Speaker 4: just tried hard, right, So, like it's so even right,

2738
02:12:26,600 --> 02:12:30,240
Speaker 4: even her wins are invalidated by this, not to mention,

2739
02:12:30,360 --> 02:12:33,280
Speaker 4: you're attacking her femininity and all that shit too, Like

2740
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:37,360
Speaker 4: it's you know, even this woman who Senay Kassain, who

2741
02:12:37,360 --> 02:12:40,840
Speaker 4: wrote this Serena Williams sabotage only equality battle with soft

2742
02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:46,320
Speaker 4: porn photo shoot and basically says that she reinforced a

2743
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:49,440
Speaker 4: sexist view that women what women look like is more

2744
02:12:49,480 --> 02:12:50,720
Speaker 4: important than their achievements.

2745
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,080
Speaker 2: But I just doesn't. I don't know how.

2746
02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:59,280
Speaker 3: Sorry, And that's how I don't understand how actually, like

2747
02:12:59,360 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 3: that's that's a bizarre thing to me too. I don't

2748
02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:07,000
Speaker 3: understand how being pretty means that you aren't other things right, right,

2749
02:13:07,040 --> 02:13:08,240
Speaker 3: and and the.

2750
02:13:08,280 --> 02:13:11,680
Speaker 6: Thing is you're black, so you can't be pretty, right.

2751
02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:14,120
Speaker 1: So but yet you let a lot of these white

2752
02:13:14,120 --> 02:13:20,520
Speaker 1: women who play tennis who take Photoshooskova.

2753
02:13:18,920 --> 02:13:20,960
Speaker 2: Won eleven games in her career.

2754
02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:24,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure maybe five, and she's she had like ten

2755
02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:27,959
Speaker 3: years of fame, like like ten wins.

2756
02:13:28,120 --> 02:13:29,360
Speaker 2: It was pretty weird.

2757
02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:34,280
Speaker 1: Because because the thing is they fit quote unquote white

2758
02:13:34,720 --> 02:13:40,280
Speaker 1: people standing of beauty, and they make more money outside

2759
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:44,880
Speaker 1: of tennis than Venus than Venus and Serena does.

2760
02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:48,080
Speaker 3: And the reason, to be really real, like Venus is

2761
02:13:48,080 --> 02:13:51,600
Speaker 3: the only reason that motherfuckers make any good tennis money

2762
02:13:51,640 --> 02:13:51,960
Speaker 3: at all.

2763
02:13:52,160 --> 02:13:54,160
Speaker 4: Right, yep, that's right.

2764
02:13:54,760 --> 02:13:57,360
Speaker 1: She and you know what a topic this is the

2765
02:13:57,480 --> 02:13:59,520
Speaker 1: this is the thing that's marvelous to black black women

2766
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:02,840
Speaker 1: back women will fight for your whack ass rights. Now

2767
02:14:02,920 --> 02:14:06,920
Speaker 1: everybody gets fucking paid more because a black woman says, nigga,

2768
02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:07,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay.

2769
02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:09,960
Speaker 6: Me what I'm worth, you know. And for the first

2770
02:14:09,960 --> 02:14:11,320
Speaker 6: time ever last year, the.

2771
02:14:11,320 --> 02:14:14,440
Speaker 1: Women's tournament for the final sold out before the men's

2772
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:17,360
Speaker 1: tournament of the final. Even though Serena didn't make it,

2773
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:21,040
Speaker 1: this sold out for the expectation of her making it.

2774
02:14:21,280 --> 02:14:22,480
Speaker 6: So it's just one of those.

2775
02:14:22,280 --> 02:14:25,160
Speaker 1: Things where black women's fighting for your right, but you

2776
02:14:25,200 --> 02:14:27,160
Speaker 1: still turn around and come, you goddamn nigger.

2777
02:14:27,400 --> 02:14:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, sharp, Pova, just that I'm looking at to this

2778
02:14:30,520 --> 02:14:34,840
Speaker 4: world USA. Monica Puig sherif Pova is a humble and

2779
02:14:34,920 --> 02:14:38,600
Speaker 4: nice person, she's also a fucking doubl Like she also

2780
02:14:38,720 --> 02:14:42,400
Speaker 4: cheated the system, Like like, what the fuck? When do

2781
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:45,600
Speaker 4: we do this for other people? We don't. Meanwhile, Serena

2782
02:14:45,640 --> 02:14:49,440
Speaker 4: Williams can't be in Sports Illustrated because it's like, well

2783
02:14:49,440 --> 02:14:52,640
Speaker 4: then now women shouldn't get paid what they weren't, Like,

2784
02:14:52,960 --> 02:14:54,160
Speaker 4: get the fuck out of here.

2785
02:14:54,280 --> 02:14:54,560
Speaker 6: Dog.

2786
02:14:54,800 --> 02:14:58,160
Speaker 4: So she starts an article by comparing her to a

2787
02:14:58,240 --> 02:15:01,720
Speaker 4: Kardashian She's a quote never actually warned thorn bikini. The

2788
02:15:01,720 --> 02:15:03,840
Speaker 4: thong is perfect. It really made me feel comfortable. I'm

2789
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:04,800
Speaker 4: officially a than girl.

2790
02:15:04,880 --> 02:15:05,120
Speaker 2: Now.

2791
02:15:05,320 --> 02:15:08,480
Speaker 4: The quote isn't from a member of a Kardashian mob,

2792
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:10,160
Speaker 4: because of course that would be the worst thing in

2793
02:15:10,160 --> 02:15:13,800
Speaker 4: the world, right obviously, Kardashians, I mean they make money

2794
02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:17,680
Speaker 4: off of being attractive and being on TV. And Lord knows.

2795
02:15:18,160 --> 02:15:19,840
Speaker 5: That any woman that does that.

2796
02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:23,840
Speaker 4: Deserves to be I don't know, put on a burker

2797
02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:26,240
Speaker 4: taking off in stone to death. I mean, come on,

2798
02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:31,560
Speaker 4: so yeah, she says. That's a quote from Serena Williams.

2799
02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:35,880
Speaker 4: This week's photos and behind the scenes video Serena william

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02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 4: shoot for Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue were published. In one picture,

2801
02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:41,520
Speaker 4: Serena's wearing a blue swim suit line on the beach

2802
02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:44,760
Speaker 4: with her arm behind her head, looking as uncomfortable and

2803
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:46,840
Speaker 4: awkward as someone trying to scratch an itch on their

2804
02:15:46,920 --> 02:15:49,920
Speaker 4: back that they can't quite reach. This is the highly

2805
02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:53,000
Speaker 4: original shower scene photo of Serena in an itsy bitsy

2806
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:57,480
Speaker 4: teeny weenie bikini posing under a shower with her arm

2807
02:15:57,560 --> 02:16:01,280
Speaker 4: provocatively resting against a wooden stand, because obviously that's the

2808
02:16:01,320 --> 02:16:03,800
Speaker 4: way women standing under a shower after a day's work.

2809
02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:05,839
Speaker 5: And there's the money shot of Serena.

2810
02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:11,640
Speaker 3: Serena didn't take the pictures to look like how women

2811
02:16:11,800 --> 02:16:13,360
Speaker 3: look after a day's.

2812
02:16:13,040 --> 02:16:17,000
Speaker 4: Work, but she she has to if she wants to

2813
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:20,400
Speaker 4: be respected, She's just gonna have to accept that no

2814
02:16:20,480 --> 02:16:24,680
Speaker 4: one she cannot be out here being sexy, not even

2815
02:16:24,680 --> 02:16:28,640
Speaker 4: for herself, not even for other other women, not not

2816
02:16:28,920 --> 02:16:32,240
Speaker 4: even God forbid that some men find this shit attractive

2817
02:16:32,800 --> 02:16:35,640
Speaker 4: like this, I mean, what she's what she's supposed to do.

2818
02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:40,320
Speaker 4: What messages she's sending to the children's mm hmm, you're

2819
02:16:40,320 --> 02:16:44,680
Speaker 4: gonna grow up and be sexy? Yeah. So in a

2820
02:16:44,879 --> 02:16:46,640
Speaker 4: November she wrote to overpen letter about e quality and

2821
02:16:46,640 --> 02:16:48,600
Speaker 4: equal pay. Women have to break down many barriers on

2822
02:16:48,600 --> 02:16:50,760
Speaker 4: the road success. One of those barriers is the way

2823
02:16:50,800 --> 02:16:52,720
Speaker 4: we are constantly reminded we are not man as if

2824
02:16:52,720 --> 02:16:54,959
Speaker 4: it's a flawed. We should always be judged by achievements,

2825
02:16:55,280 --> 02:16:57,840
Speaker 4: not by a gender. The accession to the last line

2826
02:16:57,840 --> 02:16:59,760
Speaker 4: of scenes is when you want to get your kit off.

2827
02:17:00,480 --> 02:17:05,120
Speaker 3: Wait, turn out, Serena already answered this article.

2828
02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:09,720
Speaker 2: She can you read back that line when she says that.

2829
02:17:10,520 --> 02:17:13,520
Speaker 3: We are held to like we're we're assume to be

2830
02:17:13,560 --> 02:17:14,800
Speaker 3: flawed because we're not men.

2831
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:16,959
Speaker 4: One of the one of those bears is the way

2832
02:17:17,000 --> 02:17:19,000
Speaker 4: we are constantly reminded we are not men as if

2833
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:19,640
Speaker 4: it is a flaw.

2834
02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:23,560
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the answer to this article. She already made

2835
02:17:23,680 --> 02:17:28,160
Speaker 3: her point. You're you're saying like you're holding it against

2836
02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:31,640
Speaker 3: her that she's doing things that women like to do,

2837
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:34,080
Speaker 3: that she wants to be pretty in a photo shoot,

2838
02:17:34,360 --> 02:17:37,959
Speaker 3: and therefore she's not like her pursuit of equality is

2839
02:17:38,000 --> 02:17:40,480
Speaker 3: not valid. And that's not true. If she's good at

2840
02:17:40,480 --> 02:17:43,119
Speaker 3: something and she deserves her she deserves her money for it,

2841
02:17:43,280 --> 02:17:46,480
Speaker 3: whether or not she's girly and like the idea.

2842
02:17:46,520 --> 02:17:47,600
Speaker 2: And that's so frustrating.

2843
02:17:47,720 --> 02:17:50,280
Speaker 3: I've I've often been saying this, and I'm like trying

2844
02:17:50,400 --> 02:17:53,320
Speaker 3: so hard to figure out how to articulate this well

2845
02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:57,160
Speaker 3: enough that people kind of get it. It's equality, isn't

2846
02:17:57,360 --> 02:18:03,560
Speaker 3: everybody is the same? Equality is valuing differences equally.

2847
02:18:03,959 --> 02:18:07,440
Speaker 4: Right, Wait, you're having problems saying that that's perfect?

2848
02:18:07,800 --> 02:18:08,680
Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean I.

2849
02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:14,720
Speaker 3: Just never hear anybody, rarely hear people bring it to

2850
02:18:14,760 --> 02:18:15,760
Speaker 3: that angle where.

2851
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:18,840
Speaker 5: Well, here's here's a name. For white women.

2852
02:18:19,959 --> 02:18:24,480
Speaker 4: Their measure of equality has been to mirror white men. Correct,

2853
02:18:24,480 --> 02:18:27,160
Speaker 4: And they basically feel like they won't be equal until

2854
02:18:27,160 --> 02:18:30,920
Speaker 4: they are white men. Like whether their ability to oppress,

2855
02:18:31,000 --> 02:18:34,400
Speaker 4: their ability to have privilege, their ability to earn everything

2856
02:18:34,480 --> 02:18:36,480
Speaker 4: for them is measured, and what.

2857
02:18:36,360 --> 02:18:37,280
Speaker 5: Are white men doing.

2858
02:18:37,520 --> 02:18:39,920
Speaker 4: That's what we should be doing. And if you really

2859
02:18:39,959 --> 02:18:43,080
Speaker 4: respect me, treat me as a white man, Like when

2860
02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:44,480
Speaker 4: I walk in the room, you shake my.

2861
02:18:44,480 --> 02:18:48,120
Speaker 5: Hand, you don't hug me when you when you.

2862
02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:49,800
Speaker 4: You refer to me, you refer to me by my title,

2863
02:18:49,840 --> 02:18:52,280
Speaker 4: don't refer to me by my name. Like it's that

2864
02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:55,520
Speaker 4: kind of thing as opposed to a respecting of differences,

2865
02:18:55,560 --> 02:18:59,760
Speaker 4: where it's like, well, I don't understand why you shouldn't

2866
02:18:59,760 --> 02:19:02,160
Speaker 4: make the same amount of money and yes, you get

2867
02:19:02,200 --> 02:19:05,720
Speaker 4: pregnant and you you know you may need to take

2868
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:08,800
Speaker 4: maternity leave. That there's nothing like, there's no reason you

2869
02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:11,160
Speaker 4: should make less money than me. They don't see it

2870
02:19:11,160 --> 02:19:13,199
Speaker 4: that way that I mean, what was it The CEO

2871
02:19:13,280 --> 02:19:15,320
Speaker 4: of Yahoo was a woman and then she like did

2872
02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:19,320
Speaker 4: away with some of the maternity leave shit, like right

2873
02:19:19,360 --> 02:19:22,720
Speaker 4: because she thinks, how would a man think about this?

2874
02:19:23,040 --> 02:19:25,120
Speaker 4: That is the right way to run this company, How

2875
02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:27,840
Speaker 4: would a man view pregnancy? That is the right way

2876
02:19:28,040 --> 02:19:32,240
Speaker 4: to govern, Like it's the standard of white men. And

2877
02:19:32,280 --> 02:19:35,760
Speaker 4: for a lot of people that are not bowing to

2878
02:19:35,879 --> 02:19:38,160
Speaker 4: the like idea that white men are the right way,

2879
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:41,280
Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that are like, no, disrespect

2880
02:19:41,360 --> 02:19:43,920
Speaker 4: the fact that, yes, I am Muslim. What the fuck

2881
02:19:43,920 --> 02:19:45,840
Speaker 4: they gotta do with how much money I make? Yes,

2882
02:19:45,959 --> 02:19:49,840
Speaker 4: I you know, I can be in sports illustrated and

2883
02:19:49,879 --> 02:19:52,000
Speaker 4: she even said Serena says, I want people to come

2884
02:19:52,040 --> 02:19:54,320
Speaker 4: away with the fact that it's okay to be comfortable

2885
02:19:54,320 --> 02:19:56,320
Speaker 4: in your body. I feel like it's okay to look strong,

2886
02:19:56,560 --> 02:19:59,280
Speaker 4: to be sexy, and to be a woman. And then

2887
02:19:59,320 --> 02:20:02,200
Speaker 4: this woman is like, but then you want to make

2888
02:20:02,280 --> 02:20:03,680
Speaker 4: money the same as a.

2889
02:20:03,720 --> 02:20:09,560
Speaker 3: Man, as if good looking keeople aren't allowed to get paid,

2890
02:20:11,320 --> 02:20:11,640
Speaker 3: she said.

2891
02:20:11,720 --> 02:20:12,840
Speaker 2: Ultimately, where her.

2892
02:20:12,760 --> 02:20:17,360
Speaker 4: Logic ends up, she says, hold on, Serena, so to

2893
02:20:17,440 --> 02:20:19,800
Speaker 4: looks strong, sexy and be a woman involves bearing your

2894
02:20:19,800 --> 02:20:23,160
Speaker 4: button boobs? What happened to being judged by our achievements

2895
02:20:23,160 --> 02:20:24,959
Speaker 4: and not by our gender? Or is that the way

2896
02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:27,119
Speaker 4: of thinking inconvenient for this kind of glamoura?

2897
02:20:27,120 --> 02:20:35,800
Speaker 3: Shoot right right that that she's dumb, sorry.

2898
02:20:36,240 --> 02:20:43,920
Speaker 1: Stupid, She's stupid, stupid and back to uh, what was

2899
02:20:43,959 --> 02:20:45,600
Speaker 1: about Serena and Beyonce?

2900
02:20:46,200 --> 02:20:46,800
Speaker 6: I think for.

2901
02:20:46,879 --> 02:20:52,400
Speaker 1: Me because I simplify my argument with both of them,

2902
02:20:52,879 --> 02:20:57,160
Speaker 1: they caused white women tears, because they both CAUs white women.

2903
02:20:57,000 --> 02:20:58,880
Speaker 6: Tears for everything they do.

2904
02:20:59,400 --> 02:21:02,680
Speaker 1: I treat them both the same, like they calls white

2905
02:21:02,680 --> 02:21:08,240
Speaker 1: women tears and they call a hotels to come at

2906
02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:10,360
Speaker 1: the what works, and if you do that.

2907
02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:14,240
Speaker 6: For some reason, they they.

2908
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:17,720
Speaker 1: Write articles like you're the problem versus y'all got the problems.

2909
02:21:17,360 --> 02:21:17,760
Speaker 6: Not them.

2910
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:22,840
Speaker 2: Yep, that's true. And and also just it's very bizarre.

2911
02:21:23,360 --> 02:21:26,600
Speaker 3: Uh, there's this thing that happens where it's like, uh,

2912
02:21:26,680 --> 02:21:29,080
Speaker 3: if you are you are at all part of a

2913
02:21:29,080 --> 02:21:31,960
Speaker 3: marginalized group and you're in pursuit of equality even a

2914
02:21:31,959 --> 02:21:35,680
Speaker 3: little bit, there's this thing that happens where they assume

2915
02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:39,520
Speaker 3: a roboticness about your fight for equality.

2916
02:21:39,600 --> 02:21:41,600
Speaker 2: Right, so, like, you don't get to be a full person.

2917
02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:47,440
Speaker 3: You have to be constantly thinking only of whatever cause

2918
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:51,520
Speaker 3: that you're undertaking. So like, so like Serena doesn't get

2919
02:21:51,560 --> 02:21:53,600
Speaker 3: to want to have sex or want to look like

2920
02:21:53,640 --> 02:21:56,480
Speaker 3: she likes to have sex because she should be every

2921
02:21:56,520 --> 02:21:59,640
Speaker 3: moment of the day thinking about equal pay. Or like

2922
02:21:59,760 --> 02:22:03,600
Speaker 3: you know, Beyonce shouldn't want to be a mother because

2923
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:07,800
Speaker 3: she should be thinking every day about wanting equality.

2924
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:09,199
Speaker 2: And that's it's.

2925
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:15,360
Speaker 3: So bizarre because equality requires allowing individuality to be respected

2926
02:22:15,600 --> 02:22:20,240
Speaker 3: and valued the same. And so this idea that because

2927
02:22:20,280 --> 02:22:24,120
Speaker 3: you have a mission, you're not entitled to personhood, that's crazy.

2928
02:22:24,360 --> 02:22:27,440
Speaker 4: You put somebody in a box and you get mad

2929
02:22:27,520 --> 02:22:30,000
Speaker 4: when they eat their kick asks one by that time,

2930
02:22:30,959 --> 02:22:33,440
Speaker 4: like that's that's essentially what the fuck happens. And it's

2931
02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:37,320
Speaker 4: like nobody asks for your fucking rules dogs, Like that's

2932
02:22:37,360 --> 02:22:41,000
Speaker 4: the thing about breaking shit, Like you're talking to women

2933
02:22:41,560 --> 02:22:46,520
Speaker 4: that are fucking revolutionary just by their mere existence and excellence.

2934
02:22:47,000 --> 02:22:50,800
Speaker 4: And then you're going, Okay, that's enough, Like let's slow

2935
02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:54,200
Speaker 4: down now, y'all. Hear you're being all sexy and shit.

2936
02:22:54,320 --> 02:22:57,800
Speaker 4: Now I was cool before, but now look you you

2937
02:22:57,840 --> 02:23:00,600
Speaker 4: can be sexy. I appreciate all this pregnanty shit. Okay,

2938
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:04,200
Speaker 4: it's a little bit too much motherhood with the brand. Okay,

2939
02:23:04,200 --> 02:23:07,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna need you to slow down, as if any

2940
02:23:07,400 --> 02:23:13,640
Speaker 4: of these basic as non accomplishment motherfucking white women would

2941
02:23:13,760 --> 02:23:17,680
Speaker 4: dare for a second need to get depart some level

2942
02:23:17,680 --> 02:23:21,200
Speaker 4: of opinion on these excellent sisters. And still they are

2943
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:23,920
Speaker 4: sitting around like, but what did beg you from the

2944
02:23:23,959 --> 02:23:26,880
Speaker 4: New York Times thing? Because that's really how I'm gonna

2945
02:23:26,879 --> 02:23:28,240
Speaker 4: make my next business move.

2946
02:23:28,360 --> 02:23:31,280
Speaker 2: Okay, it's even and you know it's interesting about it.

2947
02:23:31,280 --> 02:23:34,640
Speaker 3: It's like not even that she thinks something, it's that

2948
02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:40,039
Speaker 3: she thinks something and values her what she thinks so

2949
02:23:40,240 --> 02:23:44,080
Speaker 3: much that it's important for them to put this out.

2950
02:23:44,160 --> 02:23:49,840
Speaker 4: That's it is instructorial, Like it is definitely like listen,

2951
02:23:49,879 --> 02:23:51,920
Speaker 4: black women, do as I say, do what I'm telling

2952
02:23:51,959 --> 02:23:54,360
Speaker 4: you to do if you really want my respect, Like

2953
02:23:54,520 --> 02:23:58,240
Speaker 4: listen on some real shit. The undertone of artist, you

2954
02:23:58,360 --> 02:24:01,520
Speaker 4: motherfuckers are never gonna respect these women, right, Like that's

2955
02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:04,080
Speaker 4: the undertone of all this shit. It doesn't matter if

2956
02:24:04,080 --> 02:24:06,240
Speaker 4: they did, because you don't even have examples of the

2957
02:24:06,320 --> 02:24:09,119
Speaker 4: right way, Like you're not Like, this wasn't an article

2958
02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:12,480
Speaker 4: praising Venus. Where's that article? It's kind of you know,

2959
02:24:12,520 --> 02:24:15,160
Speaker 4: it's like the ship where people like praise Gianna when

2960
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:19,400
Speaker 4: they want to diss Beyonce, or you praise like Nicki

2961
02:24:19,480 --> 02:24:22,039
Speaker 4: Mina to take shot at another black woman who's rapping

2962
02:24:22,120 --> 02:24:24,920
Speaker 4: like Nigga. I ain't really love either, you know what

2963
02:24:24,959 --> 02:24:26,840
Speaker 4: I mean? Because y'all could have been wrote about how

2964
02:24:26,879 --> 02:24:29,600
Speaker 4: awesome Venus is, Like y'all like she's right.

2965
02:24:29,480 --> 02:24:32,680
Speaker 3: There, especially after this Australian open and what it means

2966
02:24:32,680 --> 02:24:33,680
Speaker 3: for her to have gotten there.

2967
02:24:33,720 --> 02:24:35,880
Speaker 2: But I have not seen any of those things.

2968
02:24:35,920 --> 02:24:38,920
Speaker 4: She kicked the diseases ass and white women's ass at

2969
02:24:38,959 --> 02:24:42,520
Speaker 4: the same time, and somehow we are not talking about

2970
02:24:42,520 --> 02:24:45,920
Speaker 4: the miracle that is Venus, whether than trying to take assistant.

2971
02:24:46,600 --> 02:24:49,360
Speaker 3: The point isn't to celebrate it, right, The point is

2972
02:24:49,400 --> 02:24:53,240
Speaker 3: to just make sure that this celebrated one is diminished

2973
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:54,400
Speaker 3: in its celebration.

2974
02:24:55,000 --> 02:24:58,600
Speaker 2: It's just it's just it's it's just greedy. It's very greedy.

2975
02:24:58,680 --> 02:25:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, And I think for me, at the

2976
02:25:03,080 --> 02:25:06,280
Speaker 1: end of the day, white women don't realize a lot

2977
02:25:06,280 --> 02:25:08,440
Speaker 1: of their opinions and a lot of these think pieces,

2978
02:25:08,480 --> 02:25:11,640
Speaker 1: a lot of your tears are rooted in white supremacy.

2979
02:25:12,480 --> 02:25:13,640
Speaker 6: That's what it is. A lot of this.

2980
02:25:13,879 --> 02:25:15,840
Speaker 4: But we march, Carrie, I don't.

2981
02:25:16,040 --> 02:25:18,760
Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck about your goddamn march. Fuck

2982
02:25:18,840 --> 02:25:19,959
Speaker 6: you and your march.

2983
02:25:20,360 --> 02:25:22,360
Speaker 1: What I want to see is your black ass in

2984
02:25:22,400 --> 02:25:24,280
Speaker 1: the boot, in the in the vote book two years

2985
02:25:24,280 --> 02:25:25,360
Speaker 1: from now what?

2986
02:25:25,760 --> 02:25:28,280
Speaker 6: Or white ass in the books from now? You got

2987
02:25:28,280 --> 02:25:28,720
Speaker 6: you mad?

2988
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:30,720
Speaker 2: What you're talking about?

2989
02:25:32,360 --> 02:25:33,520
Speaker 6: They think they think they're black.

2990
02:25:33,560 --> 02:25:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, black man, so all of a sudden, it

2991
02:25:36,560 --> 02:25:38,920
Speaker 1: makes your black right now?

2992
02:25:40,120 --> 02:25:43,000
Speaker 6: I guess damn what you know what.

2993
02:25:43,120 --> 02:25:47,600
Speaker 3: I'm so tired of the word devisive, fuck device, fuck division,

2994
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:52,200
Speaker 3: fuck long division, short, I'm so tired of.

2995
02:25:52,320 --> 02:26:11,920
Speaker 4: Got dividers and notebooks. Fuck dividends. Right, I'm sorry, and I.

2996
02:26:11,879 --> 02:26:13,280
Speaker 6: One hundred percent agree with you.

2997
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:17,840
Speaker 1: I think for me, that's why I feel as though

2998
02:26:18,800 --> 02:26:23,080
Speaker 1: it's steemed in white supremacy. And I think that's why

2999
02:26:23,480 --> 02:26:25,280
Speaker 1: a lot of black women because you know what, a

3000
02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:28,720
Speaker 1: lot of black women read these articles about Beyonce and

3001
02:26:28,760 --> 02:26:32,000
Speaker 1: Serena and they go out in the world and they.

3002
02:26:31,879 --> 02:26:34,279
Speaker 6: Know these basic Becky's are their coworkers.

3003
02:26:34,680 --> 02:26:37,240
Speaker 1: You know, they know that when they at the bus

3004
02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:40,879
Speaker 1: stop or you know, we live in the same neighborhood.

3005
02:26:40,959 --> 02:26:42,800
Speaker 1: You broke just like me, because we have the same

3006
02:26:42,840 --> 02:26:46,760
Speaker 1: motherfucking job like you agree with some of these basic

3007
02:26:46,840 --> 02:26:49,920
Speaker 1: ass white women, and that's why a lot of black

3008
02:26:49,959 --> 02:26:51,720
Speaker 1: women get to the point where they go with, bitch,

3009
02:26:51,800 --> 02:26:52,760
Speaker 1: I never trust you.

3010
02:26:52,840 --> 02:26:54,279
Speaker 6: I don't care about you showing.

3011
02:26:54,120 --> 02:26:56,760
Speaker 1: Up at this march, because the second you cross that

3012
02:26:56,800 --> 02:26:58,879
Speaker 1: finish line, you're gonna turn to my black ass and

3013
02:26:58,920 --> 02:27:01,560
Speaker 1: tell me my is and problems don't matter because in

3014
02:27:01,640 --> 02:27:02,680
Speaker 1: the right you're.

3015
02:27:02,520 --> 02:27:05,760
Speaker 6: Only concerned about yourself. And the thing is, there.

3016
02:27:05,600 --> 02:27:07,720
Speaker 1: Are white people out here that's going no, no, no,

3017
02:27:07,760 --> 02:27:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm not like these other ones. And I understand that,

3018
02:27:10,200 --> 02:27:12,920
Speaker 1: but as a as a whole as a record label

3019
02:27:12,959 --> 02:27:15,760
Speaker 1: and their crew overall, you will leave us out here

3020
02:27:15,800 --> 02:27:18,400
Speaker 1: on our own and tell black women to handle the

3021
02:27:18,440 --> 02:27:21,160
Speaker 1: shit like yourself. Because where are the white women articles

3022
02:27:21,280 --> 02:27:24,600
Speaker 1: calling these other fucking white women out but this bullshit?

3023
02:27:24,879 --> 02:27:27,760
Speaker 6: Where are these articles? Are they quote unquote good white.

3024
02:27:27,480 --> 02:27:30,400
Speaker 1: Women coming out here write these articles and saying, I'm

3025
02:27:30,440 --> 02:27:33,959
Speaker 1: tired of y'all Becky's writing this bullshit because I'm a

3026
02:27:34,000 --> 02:27:37,440
Speaker 1: good Becky. I love black people, I'm not racist. You

3027
02:27:37,600 --> 02:27:40,160
Speaker 1: never get these fucking articles, and that's where the problem comes.

3028
02:27:40,160 --> 02:27:43,520
Speaker 4: You turn into the cops because like like with Sarah Spain,

3029
02:27:43,720 --> 02:27:45,640
Speaker 4: write something, you know what I mean, somebody call this

3030
02:27:45,680 --> 02:27:48,879
Speaker 4: shit out. Somebody somebody cool and woke and good that

3031
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:51,440
Speaker 4: loves and use our terminology on Twitter and be like,

3032
02:27:51,720 --> 02:27:54,720
Speaker 4: you know that was savage, af and shit for your brand,

3033
02:27:54,840 --> 02:27:57,039
Speaker 4: Like use that shit to be like, this woman is

3034
02:27:57,080 --> 02:27:59,440
Speaker 4: fucking tripping. I don't worry. I got y'all light work.

3035
02:28:00,760 --> 02:28:03,280
Speaker 4: This is why Serena doing that. It's so dope. And

3036
02:28:03,320 --> 02:28:05,760
Speaker 4: you know, and you're just a hate as old white women, right.

3037
02:28:05,600 --> 02:28:07,920
Speaker 1: And see, we never we never get those articles, and

3038
02:28:07,920 --> 02:28:08,879
Speaker 1: I think it ain't coming.

3039
02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:09,600
Speaker 6: That's where my.

3040
02:28:09,720 --> 02:28:12,400
Speaker 1: Anger and frustration comes in, but we always get it

3041
02:28:12,520 --> 02:28:15,720
Speaker 1: the other way around, with the with the papers and

3042
02:28:15,760 --> 02:28:17,760
Speaker 1: the internet just just wash.

3043
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:20,640
Speaker 6: Everybody's fucking drowning in your tears, whether they walk to

3044
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:23,119
Speaker 6: or not. And it's very frustrating. And also I.

3045
02:28:23,080 --> 02:28:23,760
Speaker 2: Think for me.

3046
02:28:25,600 --> 02:28:31,440
Speaker 1: When it comes to Serena and Beyonce, it's amazing how

3047
02:28:31,760 --> 02:28:35,199
Speaker 1: black women can get too excellent and excellence in whatever

3048
02:28:35,280 --> 02:28:37,920
Speaker 1: field they are. You can get the excellence, but white

3049
02:28:37,959 --> 02:28:41,080
Speaker 1: women and white people period, particularly white women, always got

3050
02:28:41,080 --> 02:28:42,720
Speaker 1: to remind your black asses you black.

3051
02:28:42,760 --> 02:28:45,000
Speaker 6: And that's a problem. And that's why I fight so

3052
02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:48,440
Speaker 6: hard against these think pieces in the article because it's

3053
02:28:48,480 --> 02:28:49,160
Speaker 6: all bullshit.

3054
02:28:49,480 --> 02:28:52,280
Speaker 1: You just want to you just want to remind them

3055
02:28:52,440 --> 02:28:53,480
Speaker 1: that they're worthless.

3056
02:28:53,520 --> 02:28:55,440
Speaker 6: This this is what all this stem around.

3057
02:28:55,600 --> 02:28:58,920
Speaker 1: The criticism of the body, the Christians about motherhood, the

3058
02:28:58,959 --> 02:29:01,080
Speaker 1: criticism by all this is at the end of the day,

3059
02:29:01,440 --> 02:29:04,640
Speaker 1: you just want to remind them that they're black. Never

3060
02:29:04,680 --> 02:29:06,959
Speaker 1: forget it's this one and not a living Never forget.

3061
02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:11,440
Speaker 1: Never forget you brown, Never forget you black. You think

3062
02:29:11,480 --> 02:29:12,160
Speaker 1: you better than me?

3063
02:29:12,240 --> 02:29:14,960
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, I'm gonna remind you. Did my basic

3064
02:29:15,080 --> 02:29:17,800
Speaker 6: ask life. I'm still winning in life compared to you.

3065
02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:22,040
Speaker 2: Right there, is this listening to you.

3066
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:25,000
Speaker 3: This is gonna sound out of nowhere, but it's relevant, promise.

3067
02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:28,920
Speaker 3: So there is this thing with this like inherent assumption

3068
02:29:29,240 --> 02:29:31,000
Speaker 3: of better.

3069
02:29:30,879 --> 02:29:33,000
Speaker 2: Being better at every level.

3070
02:29:33,320 --> 02:29:36,640
Speaker 3: I remember I was like, I was like, so there's

3071
02:29:36,720 --> 02:29:39,320
Speaker 3: been questions on my Facebook if you guys follow my

3072
02:29:39,320 --> 02:29:40,000
Speaker 3: Facebook at all?

3073
02:29:40,280 --> 02:29:42,400
Speaker 2: That hotep lever was a real person.

3074
02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:46,959
Speaker 3: Last summer, and before I started hooking up with him,

3075
02:29:47,000 --> 02:29:49,120
Speaker 3: I was talking to one of my friends and.

3076
02:29:50,760 --> 02:29:54,200
Speaker 2: A white girl, and she was like, I was like, oh,

3077
02:29:54,200 --> 02:29:56,280
Speaker 2: I have a crush on so and so. I think

3078
02:29:56,680 --> 02:30:01,160
Speaker 2: so and so has a crush on me. And she's like, oh,

3079
02:30:01,280 --> 02:30:03,640
Speaker 2: I have a crush on him too, well, we can

3080
02:30:03,680 --> 02:30:05,160
Speaker 2: both go after him.

3081
02:30:05,600 --> 02:30:08,320
Speaker 3: And I was like, this bitch would never say something

3082
02:30:08,360 --> 02:30:11,040
Speaker 3: like that to any of her white friends, because there's

3083
02:30:11,120 --> 02:30:14,920
Speaker 3: some who tells somebody, oh, we can both go after

3084
02:30:14,959 --> 02:30:16,920
Speaker 3: the same guy. You only say that to somebody you

3085
02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:19,000
Speaker 3: think you're gonna be right.

3086
02:30:19,120 --> 02:30:20,640
Speaker 2: And I don't.

3087
02:30:20,800 --> 02:30:25,760
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm just factually I'm better looking and I'm cool.

3088
02:30:26,120 --> 02:30:29,480
Speaker 2: So it was just kind of like, why did you assume?

3089
02:30:29,879 --> 02:30:31,960
Speaker 3: I was like, you would never say this to any

3090
02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:34,000
Speaker 3: of your other friends, and I just know she wouldn't,

3091
02:30:34,240 --> 02:30:36,959
Speaker 3: and like we're still friendly, but it really something that

3092
02:30:37,040 --> 02:30:40,359
Speaker 3: sticks with me where it's just like there's just this kind.

3093
02:30:40,160 --> 02:30:43,720
Speaker 4: Of and it's that kind of shit where if you

3094
02:30:43,800 --> 02:30:49,840
Speaker 4: tell it to other people, right, there's enough deniability for

3095
02:30:49,879 --> 02:30:51,959
Speaker 4: them to be like, yeah, but it's.

3096
02:30:51,800 --> 02:30:55,120
Speaker 3: Like you only said that to me because you don't

3097
02:30:55,200 --> 02:30:59,039
Speaker 3: think I'm dope as you and and by like and

3098
02:30:59,080 --> 02:31:00,680
Speaker 3: not even to just should my friend.

3099
02:31:00,720 --> 02:31:04,000
Speaker 2: But it's like there isn't any reason for you to be.

3100
02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:08,800
Speaker 3: Comfortable that it is objectively so that you're doper And she.

3101
02:31:08,920 --> 02:31:13,200
Speaker 4: Was never she would never admit to any of that exactly,

3102
02:31:13,320 --> 02:31:17,920
Speaker 4: So like she might not even know it on her.

3103
02:31:17,520 --> 02:31:20,560
Speaker 3: Conscious of it because knowing her in every other way,

3104
02:31:20,720 --> 02:31:25,119
Speaker 3: like we're we're friends, right, she doesn't go around thinking that.

3105
02:31:25,160 --> 02:31:27,680
Speaker 3: But it's like there's still something that you're born with

3106
02:31:27,800 --> 02:31:30,040
Speaker 3: when you're raised in a certain society that you kind

3107
02:31:30,040 --> 02:31:33,320
Speaker 3: of go, oh, I'm just better, and so like there

3108
02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:36,360
Speaker 3: is I totally the white supremacy. It might not even

3109
02:31:36,400 --> 02:31:39,840
Speaker 3: be conscious, Like this woman probably didn't know that she

3110
02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:42,240
Speaker 3: was racist that day, you know what I mean. She

3111
02:31:42,400 --> 02:31:45,320
Speaker 3: doesn't know that by telling Serena to cover her body,

3112
02:31:45,360 --> 02:31:46,359
Speaker 3: she's being racist.

3113
02:31:46,720 --> 02:31:48,600
Speaker 2: She just knows that in her head.

3114
02:31:49,280 --> 02:31:52,240
Speaker 3: It's better to be how she would be, and she

3115
02:31:52,280 --> 02:31:54,039
Speaker 3: doesn't know why that is.

3116
02:31:54,120 --> 02:31:56,680
Speaker 4: And you did it wrong, you know, yeah, your black wife,

3117
02:31:56,800 --> 02:32:00,280
Speaker 4: you just fucked it all up exactly all right, Like

3118
02:32:01,160 --> 02:32:03,680
Speaker 4: we've been playing with black people the whole segment. Okay,

3119
02:32:04,760 --> 02:32:06,880
Speaker 4: so I'm not doing.

3120
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:08,880
Speaker 2: Three hours.

3121
02:32:09,160 --> 02:32:11,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been talking for quite some time. I did

3122
02:32:12,040 --> 02:32:16,600
Speaker 4: want to move into a different segment. Please, I don't

3123
02:32:16,680 --> 02:32:17,920
Speaker 4: want to tie you up all day.

3124
02:32:18,040 --> 02:32:18,280
Speaker 5: Race.

3125
02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:21,680
Speaker 4: So would y'all prefer guess the race or White People News?

3126
02:32:23,480 --> 02:32:26,520
Speaker 3: Ah, let's do guess the race, because if we do

3127
02:32:26,560 --> 02:32:29,400
Speaker 3: white people News, I'm gonna intellectualize it when we need

3128
02:32:29,400 --> 02:32:32,080
Speaker 3: to be having fun. I'm gonna be like, oh, you know,

3129
02:32:32,240 --> 02:32:34,720
Speaker 3: she had a sparkling shirt, and if Rihanna wore that shirt,

3130
02:32:34,879 --> 02:32:36,040
Speaker 3: they'd be calling their whore.

3131
02:32:36,280 --> 02:32:37,480
Speaker 2: And that's why I don't.

3132
02:32:38,879 --> 02:32:41,840
Speaker 4: Well, you picked well because white people News we always

3133
02:32:41,879 --> 02:32:44,800
Speaker 4: had to do that Shall's Man segment too, So now

3134
02:32:44,800 --> 02:32:47,120
Speaker 4: we don't have to hear about that son of a bitch.

3135
02:32:47,560 --> 02:32:50,480
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna play the music. I

3136
02:32:50,480 --> 02:32:52,480
Speaker 4: don't think you're gonna hear it on skype, but just

3137
02:32:52,520 --> 02:32:54,480
Speaker 4: give us like we'll be right back in like a

3138
02:32:54,560 --> 02:32:59,279
Speaker 4: second or whatever. Now that is time for some guests

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Speaker 4: race and caring and the chat room play along and

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Speaker 4: I don't know what you were saying, uh, but that's

3157
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Speaker 4: why your ass They can get on the dates. But

3158
02:34:01,520 --> 02:34:04,039
Speaker 4: Easter is coming up, okay, and a lot of you

3159
02:34:04,160 --> 02:34:07,360
Speaker 4: negroes love dressing up in your fluorescent suits and going

3160
02:34:07,400 --> 02:34:09,680
Speaker 4: to church. But you can't be going to church that

3161
02:34:09,720 --> 02:34:12,279
Speaker 4: stuff on your neck. Okay, you know your mam.

3162
02:34:13,000 --> 02:34:14,520
Speaker 1: But I know this only time of year we see

3163
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Speaker 1: you other than Christmas.

3164
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Speaker 4: You know they gonna take pictures, and you know y'all

3165
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3168
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Speaker 4: handle your business. All right, let's get into the SISM.

3173
02:34:51,160 --> 02:34:57,400
Speaker 4: S APD fires officers accused of having sex while on duty.

3174
02:34:57,640 --> 02:35:00,600
Speaker 5: Mm hmm or should I say wow, booty?

3175
02:35:00,800 --> 02:35:04,400
Speaker 2: You know no, no, no, I was waiting for it.

3176
02:35:05,360 --> 02:35:07,680
Speaker 2: Come on, give me a good one.

3177
02:35:10,360 --> 02:35:13,560
Speaker 3: I was gonna go duty, but not necessarily anal so

3178
02:35:13,879 --> 02:35:15,600
Speaker 3: oh I feel well.

3179
02:35:15,600 --> 02:35:19,600
Speaker 4: See that's why that's why I'm a professional. Okay, I thought,

3180
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:23,360
Speaker 4: you know, you know what I'm sad. I literally I

3181
02:35:23,400 --> 02:35:26,520
Speaker 4: literally did think that verse, and then I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

3182
02:35:26,920 --> 02:35:28,600
Speaker 4: there's something better, there's something better here.

3183
02:35:32,160 --> 02:35:38,879
Speaker 3: Oh you know, like honestly seriously, like I'm happy you're here,

3184
02:35:39,440 --> 02:35:42,200
Speaker 3: but your time to shine would have been like during

3185
02:35:42,280 --> 02:35:48,200
Speaker 3: Shakespeare they love puns back then. Really, Yes, Shakespeare is

3186
02:35:48,560 --> 02:35:52,000
Speaker 3: famous for like his in addition to like him being

3187
02:35:52,080 --> 02:35:55,960
Speaker 3: you know Shakespeare whatever, all his comedies, so many of

3188
02:35:56,040 --> 02:35:58,920
Speaker 3: the conflicts in the stories because he's somebody made a

3189
02:35:58,959 --> 02:36:02,080
Speaker 3: pun or somebody missed under misinterpreted a word, and that

3190
02:36:02,240 --> 02:36:04,200
Speaker 3: is the term of like the whole play.

3191
02:36:04,320 --> 02:36:06,640
Speaker 2: You would have you would have been a god. I mean,

3192
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:09,480
Speaker 2: but I could have been.

3193
02:36:15,640 --> 02:36:21,120
Speaker 4: Uh well, speaking of uh, speaking of some sex here.

3194
02:36:21,560 --> 02:36:25,320
Speaker 4: The San Antonio Police Department fired two East Side officers

3195
02:36:25,400 --> 02:36:31,680
Speaker 4: last year after internal affairs investigation. Uh that's so ironic, uh,

3196
02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:35,760
Speaker 4: internal affairs and these niggas was fucking uh the term

3197
02:36:35,840 --> 02:36:39,879
Speaker 4: that they repeatedly disabled the GPS units on their patrol vehicles,

3198
02:36:40,000 --> 02:36:43,879
Speaker 4: no sh and engaged in sexual misconduct with one another

3199
02:36:43,959 --> 02:36:44,800
Speaker 4: while on duty.

3200
02:36:45,280 --> 02:36:48,840
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait yeah.

3201
02:36:47,720 --> 02:36:48,720
Speaker 4: Two different cops.

3202
02:36:49,640 --> 02:36:53,880
Speaker 5: They was fucking They would turn off the GPS.

3203
02:36:53,240 --> 02:36:58,080
Speaker 4: On their on their police patrol cars so they can

3204
02:36:58,120 --> 02:37:00,160
Speaker 4: meet up and fuck without people knowing they were were

3205
02:37:00,160 --> 02:37:00,920
Speaker 4: in the same location.

3206
02:37:01,480 --> 02:37:03,320
Speaker 2: Oh okay, they weren't partners.

3207
02:37:03,400 --> 02:37:06,080
Speaker 5: Okay, got it, man, I feel bad for people making that.

3208
02:37:06,160 --> 02:37:09,400
Speaker 4: Now on one call, I'm getting shot.

3209
02:37:09,640 --> 02:37:11,160
Speaker 5: Help come quick.

3210
02:37:12,280 --> 02:37:15,600
Speaker 4: I'm trying to come quick. I'm trying to come quick.

3211
02:37:15,600 --> 02:37:21,760
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Officer Iman Fodron, a four year

3212
02:37:21,840 --> 02:37:27,600
Speaker 4: veteran of the department, and Officer Rebecca Martinez, now they

3213
02:37:27,600 --> 02:37:32,480
Speaker 4: are different races. Yeah, okay, well y'all know now who

3214
02:37:32,480 --> 02:37:35,800
Speaker 4: had certain the department since twenty ten. Were both handed

3215
02:37:35,840 --> 02:37:39,760
Speaker 4: indefinite suspensions, with this tantamount to being fired, and attorney

3216
02:37:39,760 --> 02:37:43,080
Speaker 4: representing them said both officers are attempting to get their

3217
02:37:43,160 --> 02:37:47,320
Speaker 4: jobs back through arbitration. The police Department released documents relating

3218
02:37:47,320 --> 02:37:49,960
Speaker 4: to the fires like December, more than seven months after

3219
02:37:49,959 --> 02:37:53,440
Speaker 4: they were forced to first request by the defenders. The

3220
02:37:53,480 --> 02:37:55,720
Speaker 4: records include more than one hundred and sixty pages of

3221
02:37:55,760 --> 02:37:59,240
Speaker 4: text messages sent between the two officers, who both work

3222
02:37:59,440 --> 02:38:02,920
Speaker 4: the overnight shift for the East Patrol. The allegations are

3223
02:38:02,920 --> 02:38:06,160
Speaker 4: wrongdoing were first brought to internal affairs by the wife

3224
02:38:06,200 --> 02:38:06,840
Speaker 4: of Fodron.

3225
02:38:07,800 --> 02:38:09,959
Speaker 6: Oh shit, and I was like, this is a good.

3226
02:38:10,720 --> 02:38:13,840
Speaker 4: In January twenty sixteen, at You, she discovered text messages

3227
02:38:13,840 --> 02:38:17,600
Speaker 4: between her then husband and Martinez automatically backed up to

3228
02:38:17,680 --> 02:38:21,680
Speaker 4: a laptop she claimed to shared with Fodron Me and

3229
02:38:21,800 --> 02:38:22,760
Speaker 4: ROI talked about that.

3230
02:38:23,120 --> 02:38:26,480
Speaker 3: That's why you never sink, never sink your phone.

3231
02:38:26,480 --> 02:38:27,560
Speaker 2: You just charge that shit.

3232
02:38:27,800 --> 02:38:29,720
Speaker 3: You get a couple of things, and then you turn

3233
02:38:29,840 --> 02:38:30,560
Speaker 3: off the option.

3234
02:38:30,840 --> 02:38:33,840
Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? You gotta chieve better. What's wrong

3235
02:38:33,879 --> 02:38:34,560
Speaker 2: with these people?

3236
02:38:34,680 --> 02:38:37,800
Speaker 4: And that's why I never fuck these other women is

3237
02:38:38,160 --> 02:38:41,840
Speaker 4: to avoid the same problem. If I'm not fucking them,

3238
02:38:41,840 --> 02:38:43,320
Speaker 4: I don't have to worry about the fact that I'm

3239
02:38:43,360 --> 02:38:44,039
Speaker 4: sinking my phone.

3240
02:38:44,160 --> 02:38:44,680
Speaker 2: All right.

3241
02:38:45,879 --> 02:38:48,640
Speaker 3: People ain't loving as you as much as you and

3242
02:38:48,720 --> 02:38:50,080
Speaker 3: Karen are loving on each other.

3243
02:38:50,240 --> 02:38:52,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes people want to get their dick and other shit.

3244
02:38:53,840 --> 02:38:55,880
Speaker 2: You get your dick and other shit. You gotta be smarter.

3245
02:38:56,160 --> 02:38:57,680
Speaker 5: You're being pragmatic and practical.

3246
02:38:57,760 --> 02:38:58,680
Speaker 4: I'm just saying.

3247
02:39:00,400 --> 02:39:02,000
Speaker 2: It's just easier to not sh.

3248
02:39:03,280 --> 02:39:05,840
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to help. It's like those people that say, like,

3249
02:39:06,120 --> 02:39:08,520
Speaker 4: monogamy isn't natural, and I'm like, I don't know, getting

3250
02:39:08,560 --> 02:39:12,119
Speaker 4: your dick cut off is pretty unnatural too, Like, so.

3251
02:39:12,360 --> 02:39:16,520
Speaker 3: He's got argument moogamy isn't natural. Neither is going to

3252
02:39:16,640 --> 02:39:18,800
Speaker 3: work nine to five figure.

3253
02:39:18,520 --> 02:39:19,400
Speaker 2: Out how to do it.

3254
02:39:19,480 --> 02:39:22,800
Speaker 4: Neither his pants? Motherfucker? The are you talking about?

3255
02:39:26,600 --> 02:39:28,520
Speaker 2: iPhone? Got that natural?

3256
02:39:28,920 --> 02:39:33,320
Speaker 4: Right? Is mitigating? Is mitigating the risk of STDs and

3257
02:39:33,440 --> 02:39:37,720
Speaker 4: financial debt? Is that also not natural? I don't understand

3258
02:39:37,760 --> 02:39:40,640
Speaker 4: what the rules are. What are the rules we're playing by?

3259
02:39:40,480 --> 02:39:42,040
Speaker 6: And y'all know what this is?

3260
02:39:42,080 --> 02:39:45,000
Speaker 1: What happened when if you're gonna cheat me up on

3261
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:46,080
Speaker 1: your technology?

3262
02:39:46,240 --> 02:39:47,520
Speaker 6: Because the thing about it.

3263
02:39:47,480 --> 02:39:51,920
Speaker 1: Apple does this when we first changed over, because you had.

3264
02:39:51,800 --> 02:39:54,760
Speaker 4: That shared account and we was getting each other's text messages.

3265
02:39:54,640 --> 02:39:57,320
Speaker 6: And it was automatic, like neither one of us knew it.

3266
02:39:57,520 --> 02:39:59,640
Speaker 1: And I kept looking like, why is she sending me

3267
02:39:59,640 --> 02:40:01,119
Speaker 1: a text waiting this conversation?

3268
02:40:01,160 --> 02:40:02,120
Speaker 6: Ain't got nothing to do with me?

3269
02:40:02,480 --> 02:40:02,879
Speaker 4: Why is it?

3270
02:40:03,080 --> 02:40:04,640
Speaker 6: And that's the thing. Some of this stuff is like

3271
02:40:04,680 --> 02:40:07,320
Speaker 6: you got to opt out. So before you start cheating,

3272
02:40:07,360 --> 02:40:09,879
Speaker 6: be sure you go through all your Apple devices to

3273
02:40:09,920 --> 02:40:11,279
Speaker 6: be shooting them his ton.

3274
02:40:11,200 --> 02:40:13,840
Speaker 4: And god, we ain't had no side bitches because you.

3275
02:40:15,360 --> 02:40:15,600
Speaker 2: Up it.

3276
02:40:15,680 --> 02:40:16,680
Speaker 6: Sure would if.

3277
02:40:17,000 --> 02:40:20,080
Speaker 3: People shouldn't even cheat with technology, right like they should

3278
02:40:20,120 --> 02:40:22,600
Speaker 3: just do it old school, just be like yo, send

3279
02:40:22,680 --> 02:40:24,440
Speaker 3: a pigeon over somewhere, tell.

3280
02:40:24,800 --> 02:40:25,200
Speaker 2: To meet me.

3281
02:40:26,400 --> 02:40:29,240
Speaker 4: Yo, put an ad, put an ad in the paper,

3282
02:40:29,800 --> 02:40:36,000
Speaker 4: like like a fucking hit man like you. It's like, oh,

3283
02:40:36,160 --> 02:40:40,440
Speaker 4: you need me to pick up two pieces from that

3284
02:40:40,600 --> 02:40:41,320
Speaker 4: side of town.

3285
02:40:41,440 --> 02:40:45,000
Speaker 2: Okay, you need to using morse code.

3286
02:40:45,080 --> 02:40:49,800
Speaker 3: As technology advances, you're cheating technology to regrets like we

3287
02:40:49,879 --> 02:40:52,400
Speaker 3: gotta use an advocates to count how many hours?

3288
02:40:56,920 --> 02:40:57,720
Speaker 6: Just go old school.

3289
02:40:57,800 --> 02:41:01,040
Speaker 1: Just start using food language, like I need two pieces

3290
02:41:01,040 --> 02:41:05,640
Speaker 1: from both jangs, a side of drunter rice and some biscuits.

3291
02:41:05,640 --> 02:41:08,960
Speaker 4: Wow, you don't if someone selling two egg plans for

3292
02:41:09,080 --> 02:41:15,400
Speaker 4: some kittens, I won't the combo. Why do you have

3293
02:41:15,480 --> 02:41:18,279
Speaker 4: this ad circle than the wanted ass? I don't know,

3294
02:41:19,360 --> 02:41:19,800
Speaker 4: all right.

3295
02:41:20,560 --> 02:41:20,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

3296
02:41:20,800 --> 02:41:23,879
Speaker 4: The woman was charging of mister meter assault and taken

3297
02:41:23,959 --> 02:41:28,000
Speaker 4: to the central magistrate. Why because she was involved in

3298
02:41:28,000 --> 02:41:33,480
Speaker 4: a fight with off duty martinezs oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

3299
02:41:33,520 --> 02:41:36,520
Speaker 4: so she she went and fockd the woman. According to

3300
02:41:36,520 --> 02:41:39,280
Speaker 4: the suspension paperwork for Martinas, the officer showed up at

3301
02:41:39,280 --> 02:41:41,440
Speaker 4: the whole of the facility six hours later, a while on duty,

3302
02:41:41,640 --> 02:41:44,120
Speaker 4: and embraceeeded to stand outside the woman's cell holding up

3303
02:41:44,160 --> 02:41:49,000
Speaker 4: her phone as she was taking pictures. She was bizarre, right,

3304
02:41:49,560 --> 02:41:52,120
Speaker 4: this is why you lose your job. She was not

3305
02:41:52,240 --> 02:41:54,280
Speaker 4: discreet about it, and all set another woman in the cell,

3306
02:41:54,320 --> 02:41:58,160
Speaker 4: recalling an incident to internal affairs investigators. Eight female detainees

3307
02:41:58,280 --> 02:42:01,040
Speaker 4: and all told the turn on affairs that Martinez repeatedly

3308
02:42:01,040 --> 02:42:05,200
Speaker 4: stood outside the cell holding the sellholding the wife. The

3309
02:42:05,240 --> 02:42:09,760
Speaker 4: assault charges against Fadrons then wife were later dismissed. Martine, Oh,

3310
02:42:09,800 --> 02:42:12,200
Speaker 4: you know what it was. It was adrenaline from getting

3311
02:42:12,200 --> 02:42:12,640
Speaker 4: from the fight.

3312
02:42:13,320 --> 02:42:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like she's taking pictures like, look at your fucked up.

3313
02:42:19,000 --> 02:42:22,680
Speaker 4: Yo, bitch in jail. Now step to me, motherfucker. I'll

3314
02:42:22,720 --> 02:42:26,840
Speaker 4: put you into jail. That's what I do. So Instagram

3315
02:42:26,959 --> 02:42:30,840
Speaker 4: ship it sounds like some for yo love centrics, uh,

3316
02:42:32,200 --> 02:42:35,480
Speaker 4: documentary and ship. Oh man, oh this could be criminals

3317
02:42:35,520 --> 02:42:41,360
Speaker 4: at work. Oh two years from now, dog, I'm gonna

3318
02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:44,560
Speaker 4: keep out for this one. M hm uh. So then

3319
02:42:44,720 --> 02:42:49,879
Speaker 4: she took the pictures. They also the suspension also indicated

3320
02:42:49,920 --> 02:42:52,960
Speaker 4: she used her patrol laptop to twice run a background

3321
02:42:53,040 --> 02:42:57,880
Speaker 4: check on Fadron's wife, which violated the police rules weirdos

3322
02:42:57,959 --> 02:43:00,920
Speaker 4: like let me see if she got any weapons, as

3323
02:43:00,959 --> 02:43:04,560
Speaker 4: well as state laws that I'll violates that. The department investigation,

3324
02:43:04,600 --> 02:43:06,920
Speaker 4: which focused on the text messages sit between the two

3325
02:43:06,959 --> 02:43:10,840
Speaker 4: officers throughout October twenty fifteen. Determined that the couple conspired

3326
02:43:10,879 --> 02:43:13,200
Speaker 4: to have sex while on duty, then later carried out

3327
02:43:13,240 --> 02:43:17,200
Speaker 4: their plan on a more than one occasion. During one conversation,

3328
02:43:17,280 --> 02:43:20,120
Speaker 4: Martinez texted Fadron, you may need to give me that

3329
02:43:20,440 --> 02:43:22,240
Speaker 4: dick at work. I'm craving.

3330
02:43:23,879 --> 02:43:24,920
Speaker 6: Late and trying to hide.

3331
02:43:25,480 --> 02:43:30,120
Speaker 4: Fadring later replied via text, I'm sure what happened. Fadring

3332
02:43:30,200 --> 02:43:34,320
Speaker 4: later wrote, it's kind of risky, lol, just saying I'm

3333
02:43:34,360 --> 02:43:39,760
Speaker 4: down for I'm down for it though. Thho oh, he's

3334
02:43:39,879 --> 02:43:40,879
Speaker 4: not that into her.

3335
02:43:41,480 --> 02:43:44,960
Speaker 3: That's why she's background checking the wife because he's sitting

3336
02:43:45,040 --> 02:43:46,280
Speaker 3: there taking the ass.

3337
02:43:46,320 --> 02:43:49,120
Speaker 2: But he's not enthusiastic about it. Yeah, he's like why

3338
02:43:49,160 --> 02:43:50,480
Speaker 2: he won't leave that bitch?

3339
02:43:50,680 --> 02:43:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.

3340
02:43:51,879 --> 02:43:55,320
Speaker 5: She insecure. She insecure about it, and I mean.

3341
02:43:56,160 --> 02:43:57,240
Speaker 6: Be secure in that role.

3342
02:43:57,440 --> 02:43:59,400
Speaker 4: And if you say I'm craving some dick at work

3343
02:43:59,440 --> 02:44:04,439
Speaker 4: and say, is ha ha ha ha, you you crazy?

3344
02:44:06,520 --> 02:44:07,680
Speaker 4: You're crazy for this one?

3345
02:44:07,840 --> 02:44:08,080
Speaker 2: You know.

3346
02:44:09,959 --> 02:44:11,680
Speaker 6: That's never good. End like that.

3347
02:44:11,840 --> 02:44:13,360
Speaker 2: The men are so dumb.

3348
02:44:14,080 --> 02:44:16,800
Speaker 3: He lost his job and his wife over some pussy.

3349
02:44:16,840 --> 02:44:20,959
Speaker 3: He wasn't even that hype about, right, He wouldn't.

3350
02:44:20,560 --> 02:44:24,720
Speaker 4: Even like take like change his break plans for some pussy.

3351
02:44:24,760 --> 02:44:26,160
Speaker 4: But he gonna lose his whole life.

3352
02:44:26,160 --> 02:44:28,720
Speaker 6: And he was like, shit, gonna cut right.

3353
02:44:29,280 --> 02:44:33,080
Speaker 4: I was kind of hoping to go to Hooligan's nigga

3354
02:44:33,120 --> 02:44:37,080
Speaker 4: gonnap his whole life. Oh, he wouldn't even take a

3355
02:44:37,120 --> 02:44:40,440
Speaker 4: fifteen minute break for it. Oh. The text records saw

3356
02:44:40,480 --> 02:44:43,360
Speaker 4: that Fading instructed Martinez how to use her patrol laptop

3357
02:44:43,400 --> 02:44:46,640
Speaker 4: to freeze the dot on her units GPS, according to

3358
02:44:46,680 --> 02:44:48,120
Speaker 4: the how many times I use that to kill some

3359
02:44:48,200 --> 02:44:53,920
Speaker 4: minutc in person? According to a police department. During one shift,

3360
02:44:54,280 --> 02:44:56,400
Speaker 4: both officers turned off that GPS and met in the

3361
02:44:56,480 --> 02:45:00,960
Speaker 4: parking lot at a home depot. Oh man, I'm sure

3362
02:45:01,000 --> 02:45:02,080
Speaker 4: he was laying some wood.

3363
02:45:02,640 --> 02:45:14,440
Speaker 8: Uh screwed, Yes, join me, Ray, join me, don't reject me.

3364
02:45:15,000 --> 02:45:16,520
Speaker 6: See he was putting a hammet down out.

3365
02:45:17,280 --> 02:45:22,120
Speaker 4: He didn't mail it. Oh man, they had to hammer

3366
02:45:22,200 --> 02:45:23,320
Speaker 4: some things out, you know.

3367
02:45:25,879 --> 02:45:29,440
Speaker 6: Uh so he was playing in her garden.

3368
02:45:30,160 --> 02:45:37,160
Speaker 4: I bet you wasn't bored. All right, let's get back

3369
02:45:37,200 --> 02:45:42,360
Speaker 4: for work out here, guys, all right? Oh so yeah,

3370
02:45:42,480 --> 02:45:46,680
Speaker 4: so they had sex at home depot. Uh they turned

3371
02:45:46,680 --> 02:45:50,240
Speaker 4: out the GPS. E turn affairs used internet aircars and

3372
02:45:50,280 --> 02:45:54,600
Speaker 4: their patrol vehicles to pandpoint to whereabouts the GPS were disabled.

3373
02:45:55,360 --> 02:45:57,720
Speaker 6: You disabled, guess what we can still find where you are?

3374
02:45:58,240 --> 02:45:58,480
Speaker 4: Right?

3375
02:45:59,360 --> 02:46:00,840
Speaker 5: I mean what your wow though?

3376
02:46:00,920 --> 02:46:03,680
Speaker 4: Right, because it's not like they were looking for it

3377
02:46:03,800 --> 02:46:06,800
Speaker 4: until that wife came in, like they would have gotten

3378
02:46:06,840 --> 02:46:14,240
Speaker 4: away with it. The attorney represented both officers and arbitration said, uh,

3379
02:46:14,280 --> 02:46:16,720
Speaker 4: the video catcher by home Depot Saveila's camera show the

3380
02:46:16,760 --> 02:46:19,360
Speaker 4: officers were not with each other long enough for sexual

3381
02:46:19,400 --> 02:46:20,480
Speaker 4: contact to play place.

3382
02:46:21,920 --> 02:46:23,720
Speaker 2: See, I'm sure.

3383
02:46:23,440 --> 02:46:26,320
Speaker 3: That the attorney is a man, because I, as a woman,

3384
02:46:26,480 --> 02:46:27,560
Speaker 3: know how short.

3385
02:46:28,760 --> 02:46:31,160
Speaker 4: Could be right, like like he ain't gonna be you know,

3386
02:46:31,160 --> 02:46:33,400
Speaker 4: they about to be in court and the officer's gonna

3387
02:46:33,400 --> 02:46:36,080
Speaker 4: be like, no, see when I'm in the puzy, I

3388
02:46:36,240 --> 02:46:40,160
Speaker 4: take my time. Okay, So that little five minutes and

3389
02:46:40,400 --> 02:46:44,080
Speaker 4: I s that is not enough time for daddy, is

3390
02:46:44,120 --> 02:46:44,680
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

3391
02:46:44,840 --> 02:46:49,279
Speaker 3: She's gonna accidentally burst out lastic ruin the whole case.

3392
02:46:49,200 --> 02:46:52,520
Speaker 4: Right, every woman on the court in the court gonna.

3393
02:46:52,320 --> 02:46:56,160
Speaker 1: Laugh like yeah, like you ain't heard a woman.

3394
02:46:58,040 --> 02:47:00,720
Speaker 4: I would never yo, honor, Please, I need at least

3395
02:47:00,800 --> 02:47:03,360
Speaker 4: twenty thirty minutes. I see, I'll make sure my women

3396
02:47:03,400 --> 02:47:08,480
Speaker 4: come twice. Okay, you know what I mean. Look at me.

3397
02:47:08,520 --> 02:47:10,680
Speaker 4: I'm barely sweating walking out of there. That's nothing.

3398
02:47:10,720 --> 02:47:16,560
Speaker 3: That's also isn't that a conflict of interest that they

3399
02:47:16,600 --> 02:47:17,840
Speaker 3: bought the same attorney?

3400
02:47:18,520 --> 02:47:20,360
Speaker 4: Seem I don't, I don't know the rules.

3401
02:47:20,360 --> 02:47:23,000
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Isn't that what happened with Diddy and Shine?

3402
02:47:23,600 --> 02:47:26,600
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe because it's not a criminal case and they're

3403
02:47:26,640 --> 02:47:29,000
Speaker 4: just trying to get arbitration, maybe it's different.

3404
02:47:29,040 --> 02:47:31,320
Speaker 6: And then maybe go here's here's both of your lawyers.

3405
02:47:31,360 --> 02:47:32,120
Speaker 6: You got the same lawyer.

3406
02:47:32,320 --> 02:47:34,520
Speaker 4: Does the police union like step up for these people too,

3407
02:47:35,000 --> 02:47:37,800
Speaker 4: because if you would have shot a black kid, would

3408
02:47:37,840 --> 02:47:40,520
Speaker 4: have your back. But this, I just can't. It's just

3409
02:47:40,560 --> 02:47:41,120
Speaker 4: not decent.

3410
02:47:42,400 --> 02:47:44,000
Speaker 6: Just to be the first time it ain't racial. We

3411
02:47:44,040 --> 02:47:44,920
Speaker 6: can't support you on this.

3412
02:47:45,040 --> 02:47:47,760
Speaker 4: Did you shoot a black person in the bathroom?

3413
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:48,080
Speaker 2: No?

3414
02:47:48,320 --> 02:47:50,879
Speaker 4: Well, I just I don't see what this has to

3415
02:47:50,879 --> 02:47:53,000
Speaker 4: do with lack person.

3416
02:47:52,760 --> 02:47:55,039
Speaker 2: From the back seat of your car. That's crazy.

3417
02:47:55,080 --> 02:47:59,039
Speaker 4: Come on now, yeah, here tying our hands here, guys,

3418
02:47:59,040 --> 02:48:05,320
Speaker 4: we want to defend your uh so the attorneys.

3419
02:48:05,440 --> 02:48:06,800
Speaker 2: That's funny because it's.

3420
02:48:08,640 --> 02:48:11,600
Speaker 4: The turn also said, neither officer gets out the patrolvy

3421
02:48:11,800 --> 02:48:13,040
Speaker 4: goes they're in the footage.

3422
02:48:13,560 --> 02:48:13,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

3423
02:48:13,840 --> 02:48:16,480
Speaker 4: The police department did not include footage in this open records.

3424
02:48:16,560 --> 02:48:19,120
Speaker 4: The officer's attorney said he has not been allowed to

3425
02:48:19,160 --> 02:48:22,360
Speaker 4: watch the footage, but has yet but has yet to

3426
02:48:22,360 --> 02:48:25,120
Speaker 4: be given a How does he know what the footage

3427
02:48:25,120 --> 02:48:27,119
Speaker 4: has if he hasn't watched it?

3428
02:48:27,360 --> 02:48:32,119
Speaker 3: But also why does it matter that they don't have footage?

3429
02:48:32,240 --> 02:48:35,640
Speaker 3: Because the crime isn't just well, it's sexual misconic.

3430
02:48:35,760 --> 02:48:35,920
Speaker 4: Right.

3431
02:48:35,959 --> 02:48:39,080
Speaker 3: Also, you turned off the GPS while you're on duty,

3432
02:48:39,440 --> 02:48:42,119
Speaker 3: So regardless of the footage that you have, right, you

3433
02:48:42,240 --> 02:48:46,040
Speaker 3: did something in violation of your like inviolation of your

3434
02:48:46,120 --> 02:48:46,880
Speaker 3: job's rules.

3435
02:48:46,959 --> 02:48:47,119
Speaker 2: Right?

3436
02:48:47,360 --> 02:48:49,400
Speaker 4: Is that a little bit matter if y'all fucked or not.

3437
02:48:49,600 --> 02:48:52,320
Speaker 4: You broke the rules? Dog, Yeah, and y'all are texting

3438
02:48:52,320 --> 02:48:56,680
Speaker 4: about fucking. I don't understand the fuck now. We just talked.

3439
02:48:56,680 --> 02:48:58,200
Speaker 4: We made up to talk about it, and I said,

3440
02:48:58,280 --> 02:48:59,520
Speaker 4: can you cut it out? Please?

3441
02:49:01,000 --> 02:49:01,400
Speaker 5: Anyway?

3442
02:49:01,440 --> 02:49:07,000
Speaker 3: This was me saying we shouldn't do that.

3443
02:49:07,000 --> 02:49:09,320
Speaker 4: That's the See, that's the thing. I I texted her

3444
02:49:09,400 --> 02:49:12,000
Speaker 4: about turning off your GPS so that we can meet

3445
02:49:12,040 --> 02:49:13,279
Speaker 4: up and I can secretly.

3446
02:49:12,920 --> 02:49:13,959
Speaker 5: Say can you cut it out?

3447
02:49:14,040 --> 02:49:17,320
Speaker 4: Okay? When I was on top of it, I was like, no,

3448
02:49:17,520 --> 02:49:22,200
Speaker 4: don't do this anymore. Looking fronted by internal affairs. My

3449
02:49:22,280 --> 02:49:25,959
Speaker 4: Tina's described the encounters ass fantasy, talk and sexty, but

3450
02:49:26,000 --> 02:49:27,560
Speaker 4: denied any sexual misconduct.

3451
02:49:28,480 --> 02:49:31,760
Speaker 3: Are they using off are they using personal phones? Or

3452
02:49:31,959 --> 02:49:35,359
Speaker 3: are they using work phones because that would be a violation.

3453
02:49:35,640 --> 02:49:36,520
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know.

3454
02:49:36,760 --> 02:49:41,480
Speaker 4: They didn't say she's using the company computer to search

3455
02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:49,120
Speaker 4: for the wife, and I'm pretty sure they yeah. She

3456
02:49:49,240 --> 02:49:54,560
Speaker 4: also put in a one text message after saying that

3457
02:49:54,600 --> 02:49:56,640
Speaker 4: this was just you know, no sexual miss kind of

3458
02:49:56,640 --> 02:49:57,080
Speaker 4: took place.

3459
02:49:57,440 --> 02:49:57,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

3460
02:49:57,640 --> 02:50:00,920
Speaker 4: There's also a text message where she said, I can't

3461
02:50:00,920 --> 02:50:04,879
Speaker 4: believe you put yourself out, drive to HD park on,

3462
02:50:05,600 --> 02:50:09,880
Speaker 4: drove to the parking lot, stripped. Did me came and

3463
02:50:10,080 --> 02:50:12,800
Speaker 4: got dressed again in fifteen minutes? That blows my mind?

3464
02:50:13,920 --> 02:50:18,080
Speaker 2: So that she just explains the way that the short.

3465
02:50:21,400 --> 02:50:23,160
Speaker 6: Criminals, what was happening here?

3466
02:50:23,240 --> 02:50:27,760
Speaker 4: What part of the fantasy is that that's no one's fantasy?

3467
02:50:28,720 --> 02:50:31,320
Speaker 2: You didn't know that recounting history is.

3468
02:50:31,320 --> 02:50:36,280
Speaker 4: Fantasy women, you know, and you know women's fantasy is

3469
02:50:36,320 --> 02:50:40,720
Speaker 4: typically a man that can yeah, that can fuck her?

3470
02:50:41,720 --> 02:50:44,480
Speaker 4: Did they come in her and get dressed in fifteen minutes?

3471
02:50:45,120 --> 02:50:47,000
Speaker 4: That women love that? Say?

3472
02:50:47,000 --> 02:50:48,480
Speaker 5: I mean, have y'all seen fifty Shades of Great?

3473
02:50:48,520 --> 02:50:52,920
Speaker 4: It's only twenty minutes long, right, this everybody's fantasy.

3474
02:50:52,920 --> 02:50:55,480
Speaker 1: Fucked me in a copper room, doing your doing your

3475
02:50:55,480 --> 02:50:56,520
Speaker 1: fifteen minute break.

3476
02:50:56,360 --> 02:50:59,400
Speaker 4: It's the credits, and then it's her fucking for him

3477
02:50:59,400 --> 02:51:00,640
Speaker 4: getting dressed, and then it's over.

3478
02:51:01,920 --> 02:51:04,279
Speaker 2: It's like it's like two minutes a novel.

3479
02:51:05,080 --> 02:51:09,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, no one's ever coming me quicker than that. Oh

3480
02:51:10,040 --> 02:51:14,680
Speaker 4: my god, to get on your fifteen minutes, I know, baby,

3481
02:51:14,720 --> 02:51:17,800
Speaker 4: that's because you've been dealing with the a's. Oh you

3482
02:51:17,879 --> 02:51:18,520
Speaker 4: gotta leave.

3483
02:51:20,120 --> 02:51:22,000
Speaker 5: However, in the text, May just said the fighter in

3484
02:51:22,040 --> 02:51:22,560
Speaker 5: the day before.

3485
02:51:22,600 --> 02:51:24,960
Speaker 4: Oh wait, all right, so this, he replied, I don't know,

3486
02:51:25,000 --> 02:51:28,240
Speaker 4: Maybe I was worried about getting caught. WHOA.

3487
02:51:29,600 --> 02:51:32,640
Speaker 3: So now he's apologizing for right, apologizing for it.

3488
02:51:32,920 --> 02:51:37,640
Speaker 4: But he would never ever, ever, guys. Both officers later

3489
02:51:37,640 --> 02:51:40,200
Speaker 4: at many investcats that they disabled the GPS for only

3490
02:51:40,200 --> 02:51:42,800
Speaker 4: in the effort to keep Martinez, his ex boyfriend, a

3491
02:51:42,800 --> 02:51:45,720
Speaker 4: fellow SAP the officers signed to the same substation from

3492
02:51:45,760 --> 02:51:48,440
Speaker 4: knowing their whereabouts. Why would you'll be afraid of?

3493
02:51:48,680 --> 02:51:51,560
Speaker 2: Why why would her boyfriend care about his word?

3494
02:51:52,120 --> 02:51:56,640
Speaker 4: Right? Police apartment records ent the k October nineteen, twenty fifteen,

3495
02:51:57,040 --> 02:52:01,040
Speaker 4: Fader and Martinez again disabled that you while on duty

3496
02:52:01,040 --> 02:52:05,119
Speaker 4: and at FM seventy eight belonging to Martinez his home

3497
02:52:05,640 --> 02:52:08,080
Speaker 4: off of FM seventy eight belonging to Martinez his friend.

3498
02:52:08,760 --> 02:52:11,320
Speaker 4: At five thirty four am, Martinez was dispatched to a

3499
02:52:11,360 --> 02:52:14,240
Speaker 4: disturbance with a knife call. However, record show she waited

3500
02:52:14,280 --> 02:52:19,760
Speaker 4: almost twenty minutes to respond, God, God, they stabbing me. Oh,

3501
02:52:19,840 --> 02:52:22,720
Speaker 4: I can't breathe all my lungs are filling with blood.

3502
02:52:23,920 --> 02:52:25,039
Speaker 4: Just twenty more minutes.

3503
02:52:25,560 --> 02:52:29,800
Speaker 2: Just wow, I'm on my way.

3504
02:52:30,040 --> 02:52:31,560
Speaker 5: All of a sudden dispatched, I'm coming.

3505
02:52:32,080 --> 02:52:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we both getting stabbed, right.

3506
02:52:37,800 --> 02:52:42,119
Speaker 4: So then less than an hour later, Fadron texted Martinez

3507
02:52:42,360 --> 02:52:46,560
Speaker 4: wished me would have had that place the first time.

3508
02:52:46,879 --> 02:52:49,080
Speaker 4: I guess wish we would have had that place the

3509
02:52:49,120 --> 02:52:52,279
Speaker 4: first time. Better than doing it in the parking lot. Lol.

3510
02:52:54,400 --> 02:52:59,039
Speaker 4: Later that night, Martinez texted Fadron that her friend discovered

3511
02:52:59,080 --> 02:53:03,720
Speaker 4: a mess sty left fire. These are the worst type

3512
02:53:03,720 --> 02:53:08,600
Speaker 4: of people, Fadron replied, Oh damn, llol, that's funny. I mean,

3513
02:53:08,680 --> 02:53:11,160
Speaker 4: besides to come on her sheets. Geez, we're better than that,

3514
02:53:11,440 --> 02:53:11,800
Speaker 4: l ol.

3515
02:53:12,720 --> 02:53:19,520
Speaker 3: Whoa wow, disrespect being you can't come on my sheets.

3516
02:53:20,440 --> 02:53:24,440
Speaker 4: And let's be honest, guys, you're not better than that. Okay,

3517
02:53:25,040 --> 02:53:28,800
Speaker 4: that's about how that's where you are. That's that's who

3518
02:53:28,800 --> 02:53:31,840
Speaker 4: you fucking at your friends home and leaving come on

3519
02:53:31,879 --> 02:53:35,080
Speaker 4: their sheets and laughing about the fact that they were mad.

3520
02:53:35,160 --> 02:53:37,200
Speaker 2: Wow, that's really fucked up.

3521
02:53:37,800 --> 02:53:40,240
Speaker 4: In a later conversation, Fied response to a text with

3522
02:53:40,320 --> 02:53:43,880
Speaker 4: Martinez that she wants to engage and role playing by writing,

3523
02:53:44,120 --> 02:53:48,240
Speaker 4: L O L whoa you are a free haha. I

3524
02:53:48,280 --> 02:53:50,320
Speaker 4: am all for but we gotta do it like on

3525
02:53:50,360 --> 02:53:53,959
Speaker 4: our days off, not this quickies on duty, you know,

3526
02:53:54,680 --> 02:53:58,960
Speaker 4: like on Tuesday. Jesus, It's like they wanted to get fired.

3527
02:53:59,040 --> 02:54:00,760
Speaker 4: The evidence so old, blatant.

3528
02:54:00,879 --> 02:54:03,120
Speaker 1: I wasna be like, but you told me you had

3529
02:54:03,120 --> 02:54:04,200
Speaker 1: a doctor's appointment.

3530
02:54:04,920 --> 02:54:07,200
Speaker 4: I told the next Texas I told my wife I

3531
02:54:07,240 --> 02:54:09,320
Speaker 4: had a doctor's appointment. But we're really gonna be fucking

3532
02:54:09,400 --> 02:54:13,600
Speaker 4: I send The owner of the home, then called was

3533
02:54:13,640 --> 02:54:15,320
Speaker 4: called in to be questioned by a term of affairs,

3534
02:54:15,320 --> 02:54:17,800
Speaker 4: confirmed the officers wearing her home while on duty, but

3535
02:54:17,879 --> 02:54:19,160
Speaker 4: do not have any knowledge of.

3536
02:54:19,080 --> 02:54:19,960
Speaker 5: Them having sex there.

3537
02:54:20,720 --> 02:54:23,720
Speaker 4: Well, they must have paid for those sheets or something,

3538
02:54:23,879 --> 02:54:27,800
Speaker 4: because I I would save that. I would save that

3539
02:54:27,840 --> 02:54:30,560
Speaker 4: she like the dress for Madicallawaiski and be like, A,

3540
02:54:30,800 --> 02:54:33,400
Speaker 4: I have the DNA evidence locked these motherfuckers up.

3541
02:54:34,400 --> 02:54:36,520
Speaker 1: I guess she was like, I don't want you investigating me.

3542
02:54:36,879 --> 02:54:39,160
Speaker 1: I know there was there, but I ain't seen nothing right.

3543
02:54:39,800 --> 02:54:42,960
Speaker 4: Her video tape segment contradicted Martinez, who told the investigator

3544
02:54:43,040 --> 02:54:45,280
Speaker 4: she and Fadron did have sex inside the home, but

3545
02:54:45,360 --> 02:54:48,480
Speaker 4: before that shift started. Later that less than a week

3546
02:54:48,520 --> 02:54:50,520
Speaker 4: after they encounter a the home. Text message appear to

3547
02:54:50,520 --> 02:54:53,520
Speaker 4: show an off duty Fadre at a fatal shooting call

3548
02:54:53,640 --> 02:54:55,959
Speaker 4: informing an off duty Martinez he will not be able

3549
02:54:55,959 --> 02:54:59,280
Speaker 4: to meet up at the same residence. Uh, Martinez texted,

3550
02:54:59,320 --> 02:55:01,560
Speaker 4: I'm waiting for you on the sofa in the living room.

3551
02:55:01,879 --> 02:55:06,960
Speaker 4: Fadron replied, following the victim to Sam Uh s A

3552
02:55:07,160 --> 02:55:11,760
Speaker 4: m MC, I'm stuck at this shooting. Uh, I'm stuck

3553
02:55:11,840 --> 02:55:15,280
Speaker 4: at the scene. God died with gunshot wound to the chest.

3554
02:55:16,480 --> 02:55:21,880
Speaker 4: Oh fo fucked up his whole game that night. Man,

3555
02:55:22,440 --> 02:55:26,879
Speaker 4: he could have got right. Let me go tell his

3556
02:55:26,920 --> 02:55:30,440
Speaker 4: family U K s A.

3557
02:55:30,520 --> 02:55:30,800
Speaker 2: T R.

3558
02:55:30,920 --> 02:55:32,959
Speaker 4: Times showed that the morning the man was shot in

3559
02:55:33,040 --> 02:55:34,959
Speaker 4: the chest in the pocket lot of ed White Middle

3560
02:55:35,000 --> 02:55:38,720
Speaker 4: school then later then like then later take it to

3561
02:55:38,720 --> 02:55:40,680
Speaker 4: a friend's home on Castle Green. The victim later died

3562
02:55:40,680 --> 02:55:44,760
Speaker 4: after being taken to San Antonio Medical Military Medical Center.

3563
02:55:44,800 --> 02:55:47,360
Speaker 4: So that's what the essay m MC was, according to

3564
02:55:47,920 --> 02:55:51,040
Speaker 4: Police Detective Record Department records. Fadron's wife discovered the test

3565
02:55:51,040 --> 02:55:54,280
Speaker 4: messages days later, but waited two months to come forward

3566
02:55:54,360 --> 02:55:58,359
Speaker 4: to Internal Affairs. Looking at the totalian situation, the conduct

3567
02:55:58,440 --> 02:56:00,520
Speaker 4: they were engaged in was not an our ethical, not

3568
02:56:00,640 --> 02:56:06,280
Speaker 4: an all professional, said Sergeant J. C. Salam. I. Certainly

3569
02:56:06,360 --> 02:56:08,959
Speaker 4: that's certain something that we are not going to tolerate

3570
02:56:09,000 --> 02:56:12,320
Speaker 4: in this department. The officer's attorneys contended the text messages

3571
02:56:12,400 --> 02:56:15,520
Speaker 4: used by Internal Affairs to terminate both officers were obtained illegally,

3572
02:56:15,760 --> 02:56:18,240
Speaker 4: so it must not have been work stuff. The attorney

3573
02:56:18,240 --> 02:56:20,520
Speaker 4: told the defenders that the laptop in question belongs only

3574
02:56:20,520 --> 02:56:23,360
Speaker 4: the officer Fodron and was not shared property, as Fadron's

3575
02:56:23,360 --> 02:56:25,760
Speaker 4: wife claimed. So they're gonna try to say violated some

3576
02:56:25,800 --> 02:56:31,240
Speaker 4: type of evidence access shit, like y'all can use evidence.

3577
02:56:31,280 --> 02:56:32,160
Speaker 5: Y'all did not have a warrant.

3578
02:56:33,000 --> 02:56:36,480
Speaker 4: Our argument, regardless of how it came in, it's enough

3579
02:56:36,520 --> 02:56:39,600
Speaker 4: for us to an administrative proceeding. I feel very strongly

3580
02:56:39,600 --> 02:56:42,720
Speaker 4: the evidence would hold up an administrative for seeding, says Salam.

3581
02:56:42,800 --> 02:56:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean you're clock y'all mean, if nothing else, you

3582
02:56:46,320 --> 02:56:47,800
Speaker 1: turned this fucking system off.

3583
02:56:48,200 --> 02:56:48,880
Speaker 4: Gu's the race.

3584
02:56:50,320 --> 02:56:52,920
Speaker 1: I think the man is black and a woman. It's

3585
02:56:53,080 --> 02:56:54,440
Speaker 1: like a Mexican on Latino.

3586
02:56:54,720 --> 02:56:57,160
Speaker 4: All right, what about you, Ray.

3587
02:56:56,680 --> 02:56:59,800
Speaker 2: I think that the man is Arab and the woman.

3588
02:57:00,959 --> 02:57:02,640
Speaker 4: All right, let's take the chat room and see what

3589
02:57:02,680 --> 02:57:08,400
Speaker 4: these racists believe. Scroll down. Uh, I'm sorry, all right.

3590
02:57:09,920 --> 02:57:12,760
Speaker 4: The wife was playing lemonade, he was black, and the

3591
02:57:12,840 --> 02:57:17,760
Speaker 4: side chick Gaudita with the good hair, frequents George frequents,

3592
02:57:17,760 --> 02:57:19,240
Speaker 4: George Lopez shows and things.

3593
02:57:19,280 --> 02:57:20,119
Speaker 5: He did nothing wrong?

3594
02:57:20,400 --> 02:57:22,480
Speaker 2: Oh oh wow, yeah.

3595
02:57:22,640 --> 02:57:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know he's nothing's wrong. It's funny. Uh.

3596
02:57:29,240 --> 02:57:33,240
Speaker 4: One Wall and One band would have handled this whole problem.

3597
02:57:33,400 --> 02:57:38,039
Speaker 4: Latin woman and South Asian Middle Eastern man. Uh, footage

3598
02:57:38,040 --> 02:57:41,560
Speaker 4: from their body cans got sold to the hood amateurs

3599
02:57:41,600 --> 02:57:42,560
Speaker 4: dot com.

3600
02:57:43,640 --> 02:57:44,599
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

3601
02:57:44,640 --> 02:57:49,720
Speaker 4: Black and Latina. What you know about that? Amateurs? ACU

3602
02:57:50,120 --> 02:57:52,640
Speaker 4: black and Latina? Black and Hispanic?

3603
02:57:53,120 --> 02:57:53,280
Speaker 6: Uh?

3604
02:57:53,680 --> 02:57:57,560
Speaker 4: What's now? Say? Lady is Latina? The dude is white.

3605
02:57:57,920 --> 02:58:02,080
Speaker 4: The guy jack hammer hammeld his wood with two pumps

3606
02:58:02,360 --> 02:58:07,359
Speaker 4: at a sport black the woman getting his spicy saucer

3607
02:58:07,440 --> 02:58:12,400
Speaker 4: boxing held hispanic not used to evidence against them actually

3608
02:58:12,400 --> 02:58:16,560
Speaker 4: counting in court. Becky and Becky and a hotep who

3609
02:58:16,600 --> 02:58:22,440
Speaker 4: bonded over Hayton Beyonce. He's white. He's whiter than the

3610
02:58:22,480 --> 02:58:25,240
Speaker 4: con they left on him. She she's a border hopper.

3611
02:58:25,640 --> 02:58:30,280
Speaker 4: Hashtag blue sex Lives Matter. Ah, the correct answer is

3612
02:58:30,680 --> 02:58:37,000
Speaker 4: and Karen, you got it right. He's black, she's Latina

3613
02:58:40,640 --> 02:58:48,080
Speaker 4: And many of you missed it. Okay, I'm sorry many.

3614
02:58:48,280 --> 02:58:51,280
Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the bonus round, guys. All Right,

3615
02:58:51,320 --> 02:58:52,800
Speaker 4: that was kind of a long one, but it was

3616
02:58:52,800 --> 02:58:56,280
Speaker 4: worth it past. That was a lot of a lot

3617
02:58:56,280 --> 02:59:00,520
Speaker 4: of police involved shooting, police involved shooting up the club.

3618
02:59:01,560 --> 02:59:07,320
Speaker 4: In that one us they shot the guts who did

3619
02:59:07,360 --> 02:59:18,480
Speaker 4: get shot up care gut shot wound too. I really

3620
02:59:18,480 --> 02:59:20,320
Speaker 4: need Bossip to cover that. I'm gonna send that to

3621
02:59:20,360 --> 02:59:22,000
Speaker 4: somebody because I'm gonna need them to put that under

3622
02:59:22,040 --> 02:59:23,200
Speaker 4: the swirl tag somehow.

3623
02:59:24,959 --> 02:59:25,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm bad.

3624
02:59:25,879 --> 02:59:27,880
Speaker 4: I'm meant to put the picks up hold on because

3625
02:59:27,920 --> 02:59:29,560
Speaker 4: now I don't want youry to see the new article,

3626
02:59:30,000 --> 02:59:32,360
Speaker 4: and I don't think Ray can see it. In the chat.

3627
02:59:32,640 --> 02:59:36,840
Speaker 4: But all right, give me one second. Hold on, that's

3628
02:59:36,840 --> 02:59:41,040
Speaker 4: that's totally my bad everybody, And I want to share

3629
02:59:41,080 --> 02:59:45,879
Speaker 4: my screen. I'm gonna show you guys. They look exactly

3630
02:59:45,959 --> 02:59:48,520
Speaker 4: like you think they look too, by the way, like

3631
02:59:48,560 --> 02:59:57,160
Speaker 4: complete sereotypes. Uh like sometimes we get to ambiguous raise people.

3632
02:59:57,280 --> 02:59:59,240
Speaker 4: This is not that. This is just people that you're like,

3633
02:59:59,240 --> 03:00:05,039
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's actually what I thought they look like. Yeah,

3634
03:00:05,959 --> 03:00:09,880
Speaker 4: but good for them, man, I was honestly, man, I'd

3635
03:00:09,959 --> 03:00:12,680
Speaker 4: rather police be doing that than you know, getting away

3636
03:00:12,680 --> 03:00:13,320
Speaker 4: with killing us.

3637
03:00:14,120 --> 03:00:16,600
Speaker 5: Uh oh.

3638
03:00:18,080 --> 03:00:21,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Why his face look like he just came

3639
03:00:21,760 --> 03:00:25,920
Speaker 4: to like, ah, oh thank god we did this again.

3640
03:00:26,959 --> 03:00:27,600
Speaker 2: Oh man?

3641
03:00:27,959 --> 03:00:30,080
Speaker 4: Anyway, I want to beat up his wife like it

3642
03:00:30,160 --> 03:00:32,840
Speaker 4: was all good. Mm hmm. Probably had a.

3643
03:00:32,800 --> 03:00:33,600
Speaker 5: Black wife too.

3644
03:00:35,120 --> 03:00:40,320
Speaker 4: All right, Uh let's see here's the one one oh ship.

3645
03:00:40,520 --> 03:00:43,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that almost got bad. M m hmmm.

3646
03:00:44,360 --> 03:00:45,600
Speaker 5: All right, A.

3647
03:00:47,600 --> 03:00:49,520
Speaker 4: Actually want to change it since you might have I

3648
03:00:49,640 --> 03:00:54,400
Speaker 4: want youry to see it. Sorry, no, no problem, all right, Uh,

3649
03:00:54,760 --> 03:00:55,280
Speaker 4: what's wrong?

3650
03:00:55,920 --> 03:00:56,640
Speaker 6: I still see it?

3651
03:00:56,800 --> 03:00:57,680
Speaker 4: Still see my screen?

3652
03:00:58,120 --> 03:00:58,680
Speaker 6: Yeah?

3653
03:00:59,440 --> 03:01:06,040
Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, here we go. Documents Just okay,

3654
03:01:06,560 --> 03:01:11,320
Speaker 4: spaghetti dinner led to a police standoff in Merrimack.

3655
03:01:11,720 --> 03:01:13,359
Speaker 6: Oh shit, just okay spaghetti.

3656
03:01:15,480 --> 03:01:18,440
Speaker 4: Police standoff began in Merrimack after a boyfriend told his

3657
03:01:18,520 --> 03:01:25,200
Speaker 4: girlfriend that the spaghetti dinner she made was okay. Police

3658
03:01:25,240 --> 03:01:29,359
Speaker 4: responded to Western Green Condominium complex for domestic disturbance Saturday

3659
03:01:29,440 --> 03:01:31,879
Speaker 4: at about two thirty five pm. They made with a

3660
03:01:31,920 --> 03:01:35,680
Speaker 4: resident complex who said that his girlfriend, Jody Eckland, was

3661
03:01:35,720 --> 03:01:41,240
Speaker 4: in the apartment and damaging property. The boyfriend told police

3662
03:01:41,320 --> 03:01:44,200
Speaker 4: that Eckland had made spaghetti dinner, asked him how it was.

3663
03:01:44,240 --> 03:01:49,119
Speaker 4: He replied, okay, and he said that's when Eckland went

3664
03:01:49,280 --> 03:01:56,040
Speaker 4: bipolar on him. Okay. Eckland allegedly assaulted the boyfriend by

3665
03:01:56,080 --> 03:01:58,000
Speaker 4: punching him and his motherfucking face.

3666
03:02:00,920 --> 03:02:05,760
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, donald, okay whatever, It.

3667
03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:11,000
Speaker 4: Was just okay though, right, uh yeah, So she punched

3668
03:02:11,040 --> 03:02:12,840
Speaker 4: him in the face, punched him and scratched his hand.

3669
03:02:13,200 --> 03:02:15,720
Speaker 5: He left the apartment and her exceling locked the door.

3670
03:02:16,240 --> 03:02:19,320
Speaker 4: Two fire arms, a black nine millimeter and an NFL apartment.

3671
03:02:19,360 --> 03:02:23,680
Speaker 4: The boyfriend told police officers approached the apartment. Yeah, they

3672
03:02:23,720 --> 03:02:27,520
Speaker 4: stay strapped up. Another reason just not to have some

3673
03:02:27,560 --> 03:02:29,520
Speaker 4: guns in your house. You can't even get in then

3674
03:02:29,560 --> 03:02:32,640
Speaker 4: argument and leave safely like you got a word. Hope.

3675
03:02:32,640 --> 03:02:34,800
Speaker 5: She don't kill men when we try to make up later.

3676
03:02:36,160 --> 03:02:37,960
Speaker 4: Baby, it was me. It was me. I forgot to

3677
03:02:37,959 --> 03:02:40,160
Speaker 4: put parmers out on it. Please don't don't kill me.

3678
03:02:41,760 --> 03:02:44,920
Speaker 4: Officers approached the apartment door and her eceling screaming, telling

3679
03:02:44,959 --> 03:02:47,040
Speaker 4: them to get to there. She then told police she

3680
03:02:47,080 --> 03:02:49,440
Speaker 4: would kill them if they ended up phorm herself, confirming

3681
03:02:49,440 --> 03:02:52,760
Speaker 4: they were guns inside. Akling began to barricade herself in

3682
03:02:52,800 --> 03:02:55,400
Speaker 4: the apartment. Obviosly said they attended the game access and

3683
03:02:55,480 --> 03:02:57,240
Speaker 4: while doing so, she told him they could come in

3684
03:02:57,320 --> 03:03:04,600
Speaker 4: now and she had the safety off. The report says

3685
03:03:04,640 --> 03:03:06,879
Speaker 4: she threw out property belonging to the boyfriend into the

3686
03:03:06,879 --> 03:03:10,520
Speaker 4: parking lot. During the incident, a speaker said a speaker

3687
03:03:10,600 --> 03:03:13,439
Speaker 4: was thrown out, damaging the window to a different residence.

3688
03:03:13,879 --> 03:03:17,240
Speaker 4: Oh damn right. Ekling faces two counts of criminal mister,

3689
03:03:17,320 --> 03:03:19,640
Speaker 4: two counts of criminal threat, and the two council reguless conduct,

3690
03:03:19,640 --> 03:03:22,880
Speaker 4: all felonies. She also faces three Minster Menial Council domestic violence.

3691
03:03:22,920 --> 03:03:25,320
Speaker 4: She pleaded not guilty to the mistermeanor chargers. She just

3692
03:03:25,320 --> 03:03:27,960
Speaker 4: placed on twenty five thousand dollars cash bell, which could

3693
03:03:28,000 --> 03:03:31,600
Speaker 4: be converted to personal reconnaissance if accepted into the Hampstead

3694
03:03:31,680 --> 03:03:34,640
Speaker 4: Hospital for Impatient Mental health and Substance Abuse treatment or

3695
03:03:34,720 --> 03:03:37,480
Speaker 4: similar program that consists of a minimum of twenty eight days.

3696
03:03:37,680 --> 03:03:40,080
Speaker 4: The bell will revert back to cash once Ecklin was

3697
03:03:40,120 --> 03:03:44,360
Speaker 4: discharged or completed the program. So guess the race of

3698
03:03:44,959 --> 03:03:48,640
Speaker 4: Jody Eckland, who don't play that shit about her spaghetti? Black?

3699
03:03:49,280 --> 03:03:50,920
Speaker 5: Karen's gone black? What about you?

3700
03:03:51,080 --> 03:03:51,280
Speaker 4: Ray?

3701
03:03:52,120 --> 03:03:56,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go sovereign citizen white.

3702
03:03:57,280 --> 03:04:01,320
Speaker 4: All right, let's check the chat see what they believe.

3703
03:04:03,480 --> 03:04:07,680
Speaker 4: Let me scroll down. Boyfriend had a black ex girlfriend

3704
03:04:07,680 --> 03:04:11,160
Speaker 4: and some season spaghetti in his life before white Becky

3705
03:04:11,240 --> 03:04:13,680
Speaker 4: thought cutting up her dogs and cutting up hot dogs

3706
03:04:13,720 --> 03:04:20,080
Speaker 4: at chef boy y'all, he made a cooking Italians not

3707
03:04:21,160 --> 03:04:24,280
Speaker 4: eat not eating your male sauce spaghetti at the pot.

3708
03:04:24,320 --> 03:04:27,000
Speaker 4: Look that you made with the cat on the kitchen

3709
03:04:27,200 --> 03:04:30,120
Speaker 4: counter of her. Anger was justified because she seas in

3710
03:04:30,160 --> 03:04:33,000
Speaker 4: the pasta with avion instead of tap water. And he

3711
03:04:33,160 --> 03:04:36,720
Speaker 4: had the nerve to complain white white that spaghetti was

3712
03:04:36,800 --> 03:04:39,240
Speaker 4: seasoned with white tears and hatred. The boyfriend still thought

3713
03:04:39,240 --> 03:04:43,400
Speaker 4: it was too spicy. White, white, basic as fuck. Becky

3714
03:04:43,480 --> 03:04:48,240
Speaker 4: with the spaghetti white hair, with spaghetti hair white. She

3715
03:04:48,520 --> 03:04:53,119
Speaker 4: was also mad because he thinks that chef Rachel Ray

3716
03:04:53,320 --> 03:04:58,280
Speaker 4: is cute, white and white. The correct answer is and

3717
03:04:58,480 --> 03:05:06,400
Speaker 4: everybody gotta except she was white, and I will put

3718
03:05:06,400 --> 03:05:08,240
Speaker 4: her picture up. Just give me one second.

3719
03:05:07,920 --> 03:05:15,160
Speaker 2: Everybody, come to the cops, come in. I turned off

3720
03:05:15,160 --> 03:05:15,640
Speaker 2: the set.

3721
03:05:16,120 --> 03:05:16,880
Speaker 4: Is she alive?

3722
03:05:17,400 --> 03:05:17,480
Speaker 2: Like?

3723
03:05:17,560 --> 03:05:18,879
Speaker 5: That should have been include number one?

3724
03:05:18,920 --> 03:05:23,720
Speaker 1: She was white, like mister Minas.

3725
03:05:23,959 --> 03:05:26,800
Speaker 6: That's when my mom was going face.

3726
03:05:27,680 --> 03:05:29,720
Speaker 4: They told her that she going to a mental health facility.

3727
03:05:29,720 --> 03:05:31,959
Speaker 4: They're gonna lower her bell. I mean, she's clearly white.

3728
03:05:33,160 --> 03:05:35,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what you were thinking, to be quite honest,

3729
03:05:35,920 --> 03:05:39,560
Speaker 4: that's that's her picture right there, guys. Is it showing

3730
03:05:39,640 --> 03:05:39,920
Speaker 4: up yet?

3731
03:05:40,000 --> 03:05:40,120
Speaker 1: Care?

3732
03:05:41,160 --> 03:05:44,280
Speaker 4: All right, well I'll give it a second. Let me

3733
03:05:44,320 --> 03:05:49,400
Speaker 4: make sure that that didn't uh what's saying sharing my screen?

3734
03:05:49,400 --> 03:05:50,879
Speaker 4: I think I just have a delay on my side.

3735
03:05:51,320 --> 03:05:52,400
Speaker 6: Okay, just popped?

3736
03:05:52,840 --> 03:05:53,480
Speaker 4: Okay? Cool?

3737
03:05:53,480 --> 03:05:55,320
Speaker 5: Well that's her right there, guys, all right?

3738
03:05:55,640 --> 03:05:56,000
Speaker 2: Is it?

3739
03:05:56,360 --> 03:05:56,560
Speaker 7: Yeah?

3740
03:05:56,600 --> 03:06:00,800
Speaker 4: She's very very white hair. I was like, weed, Yeah,

3741
03:06:01,640 --> 03:06:07,879
Speaker 4: it's a damn shame. All right, So I wanna stop

3742
03:06:07,879 --> 03:06:09,280
Speaker 4: it there? You want to do one more? You guys

3743
03:06:09,280 --> 03:06:12,000
Speaker 4: are one in one. I don't know. Y'all want to

3744
03:06:12,000 --> 03:06:13,680
Speaker 4: break the tie. Y'all want to just move into some

3745
03:06:13,720 --> 03:06:19,440
Speaker 4: sore ship anything, all right. Last one, a woman's leg

3746
03:06:19,600 --> 03:06:27,680
Speaker 4: was severed after fighting with another woman over a man. Yeah,

3747
03:06:28,600 --> 03:06:32,960
Speaker 4: the worst kind of injury over some nick A woman

3748
03:06:33,040 --> 03:06:35,480
Speaker 4: lost her leg over a love triangle to turn violent

3749
03:06:35,520 --> 03:06:36,480
Speaker 4: cord to CBS twelve.

3750
03:06:36,480 --> 03:06:38,279
Speaker 5: The incident occurred in Miami.

3751
03:06:38,200 --> 03:06:45,160
Speaker 4: Well Kaushena Mortica and Ashley Weatherspoon. Ashley Weatherspoon with the

3752
03:06:45,240 --> 03:06:51,560
Speaker 4: same man. Now, I don't care now this is this.

3753
03:06:51,800 --> 03:06:54,440
Speaker 4: Don't see what we were doing so good? But clearly

3754
03:06:54,480 --> 03:06:57,320
Speaker 4: we've gotten off to the wrong flo Okay, just totally

3755
03:06:57,360 --> 03:07:05,800
Speaker 4: off on the wrong First, she was just trying to

3756
03:07:05,879 --> 03:07:09,160
Speaker 4: kick it, y'all. And now look at her, Look at her.

3757
03:07:09,480 --> 03:07:11,640
Speaker 6: I guess a lot of facts anymore.

3758
03:07:12,320 --> 03:07:17,480
Speaker 4: I guess she won't be running over there all right. Well,

3759
03:07:19,400 --> 03:07:25,920
Speaker 4: m m mm hmmm. Uh. Once they discovered this harsh reality,

3760
03:07:25,959 --> 03:07:28,080
Speaker 4: they began to argue with each other. At some point,

3761
03:07:28,160 --> 03:07:31,080
Speaker 4: the art became violent and the two decided to fight.

3762
03:07:32,040 --> 03:07:34,840
Speaker 5: I'm surprised they couldn't just get together as women, you.

3763
03:07:34,800 --> 03:07:45,160
Speaker 4: Know, way too much, because femurs are strong as hell. Okay.

3764
03:07:45,400 --> 03:07:45,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

3765
03:07:45,760 --> 03:07:50,879
Speaker 4: During this, During the fight, Mordica jumped into her car

3766
03:07:51,120 --> 03:07:55,400
Speaker 4: and stepped on the gas pedal while Witherspoon was in

3767
03:07:55,440 --> 03:07:58,400
Speaker 4: front of the car. She hit with them and continue

3768
03:07:58,440 --> 03:08:02,400
Speaker 4: to drive without stopping. Weatherspoon remained on the ground with

3769
03:08:02,480 --> 03:08:07,600
Speaker 4: blood pouring from her leg. She stood. She soon discovered

3770
03:08:07,600 --> 03:08:11,320
Speaker 4: her leg was severn because of the incident. She ran

3771
03:08:11,400 --> 03:08:15,280
Speaker 4: her leg in half. Both women were fighting for the

3772
03:08:15,320 --> 03:08:22,120
Speaker 4: love of Marco Mack Matc thirty two doesn't even sound

3773
03:08:22,160 --> 03:08:25,760
Speaker 4: like he got some hoes. Matc thirty two has a

3774
03:08:26,680 --> 03:08:29,039
Speaker 4: has a history of being on the wrong side of

3775
03:08:29,040 --> 03:08:33,440
Speaker 4: the law. Although he was not directly involved in the

3776
03:08:33,440 --> 03:08:35,800
Speaker 4: fight that led the Weatherspoon losing her leg, he was

3777
03:08:35,879 --> 03:08:38,480
Speaker 4: arrested for past issues with the law. He's been arrested

3778
03:08:38,520 --> 03:08:42,440
Speaker 4: on burglary and grand theft warrants. The incident reveals how

3779
03:08:42,480 --> 03:08:45,040
Speaker 4: this guy is passion and change a personal circumstance in life.

3780
03:08:45,480 --> 03:08:50,720
Speaker 4: Who wrote this fucking Joey Greco to try to add

3781
03:08:51,240 --> 03:08:57,440
Speaker 4: tried to add that last thought like Jerry and shit. Yeah, listen, guys,

3782
03:08:57,879 --> 03:09:00,800
Speaker 4: this incident reveals how mis got Scott. A person can

3783
03:09:00,879 --> 03:09:02,480
Speaker 4: change the person's circumstances in life.

3784
03:09:03,040 --> 03:09:05,959
Speaker 2: Take care of yourself and right.

3785
03:09:06,080 --> 03:09:09,200
Speaker 4: Just soft music playing in the background. Now to the

3786
03:09:09,320 --> 03:09:14,760
Speaker 4: next week. We'll have the Klan fight the Black Panthers, Right,

3787
03:09:14,879 --> 03:09:17,440
Speaker 4: Mordecai is facing jail time and Weatherspoon lost a leg

3788
03:09:17,440 --> 03:09:19,560
Speaker 4: over a person and then I care enough to prevent

3789
03:09:19,560 --> 03:09:21,800
Speaker 4: the altercation from a current. Both women will surely regret

3790
03:09:21,879 --> 03:09:24,520
Speaker 4: this incident as they deal with the consequence for years come.

3791
03:09:24,640 --> 03:09:27,320
Speaker 4: Mordika's face a serious jail time because she didn't stop

3792
03:09:27,360 --> 03:09:30,360
Speaker 4: the car after hitting Witherspoon, and Mortica is being charged

3793
03:09:30,400 --> 03:09:32,360
Speaker 4: with second agree a temphed murder and leaving the scene

3794
03:09:32,400 --> 03:09:35,480
Speaker 4: of an accident. Mortica is currently out on bell but

3795
03:09:35,560 --> 03:09:42,880
Speaker 4: mac remains in jail. So guess the race of Kashina Mortica,

3796
03:09:43,000 --> 03:09:47,520
Speaker 4: the woman who ran over the other woman? Black? Care's

3797
03:09:47,520 --> 03:09:48,920
Speaker 4: going with black? What about you?

3798
03:09:51,640 --> 03:09:55,519
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Jessica dying Miami strip.

3799
03:09:58,160 --> 03:10:01,400
Speaker 4: All right on the next Love and Him for ironically,

3800
03:10:01,400 --> 03:10:07,720
Speaker 4: that's what Tommy was trying to do to Jocelyn. Uh sure, okay,

3801
03:10:07,800 --> 03:10:09,480
Speaker 4: did you ask them already or no?

3802
03:10:09,760 --> 03:10:10,000
Speaker 6: Yes?

3803
03:10:10,680 --> 03:10:15,000
Speaker 4: I guess I gotta scroll up. I don't even see it, oh,

3804
03:10:15,040 --> 03:10:19,360
Speaker 4: I see, Okay? A stump for Trump white black black

3805
03:10:19,440 --> 03:10:23,320
Speaker 4: side piece that was about to be cut off black blackfoot.

3806
03:10:24,480 --> 03:10:27,760
Speaker 4: He's saying blackfoot as in Native American or what do

3807
03:10:27,800 --> 03:10:36,440
Speaker 4: you mean by that woman to woman black Shirley? No, oh,

3808
03:10:37,360 --> 03:10:40,000
Speaker 4: the side chick can no longer stand by her man.

3809
03:10:40,280 --> 03:10:51,680
Speaker 9: Oh oh uh, diamond and silk black black woman who

3810
03:10:52,160 --> 03:10:54,959
Speaker 9: I bet Bill mar won't have dominant silk own though

3811
03:10:55,160 --> 03:10:57,400
Speaker 9: I know that, I know that much.

3812
03:10:57,640 --> 03:11:00,480
Speaker 5: You'll talk to Milow. We ain't gonna have dominant silk on.

3813
03:11:00,600 --> 03:11:01,960
Speaker 4: There speeding that real.

3814
03:11:02,560 --> 03:11:03,080
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

3815
03:11:04,480 --> 03:11:06,240
Speaker 5: They won't cuts his ass out.

3816
03:11:07,200 --> 03:11:08,520
Speaker 4: It won't even make sense.

3817
03:11:11,200 --> 03:11:13,560
Speaker 3: Because you know he's a He's a white dude, and

3818
03:11:13,680 --> 03:11:17,320
Speaker 3: every white dude's biggest fear is black teenagers roasting them

3819
03:11:17,320 --> 03:11:19,960
Speaker 3: and diamondus silk come too close, and he don't work

3820
03:11:20,080 --> 03:11:23,400
Speaker 3: too hard to know where he is. They have some

3821
03:11:23,480 --> 03:11:25,600
Speaker 3: black guns, like you don't like Trump?

3822
03:11:25,760 --> 03:11:28,119
Speaker 2: Look at your shoes right, Oh, I.

3823
03:11:28,040 --> 03:11:29,080
Speaker 5: Would tune in for that.

3824
03:11:29,320 --> 03:11:32,920
Speaker 4: Listen. I don't watch his show, but I watched them

3825
03:11:32,959 --> 03:11:35,800
Speaker 4: coons like he bring them on that and let them

3826
03:11:36,720 --> 03:11:39,360
Speaker 4: let them coon it up to his face. Oh my god.

3827
03:11:39,840 --> 03:11:42,600
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. You know he gonna stop by trying to

3828
03:11:42,640 --> 03:11:44,480
Speaker 4: be like I fuck black women. They're gonna they gonna

3829
03:11:44,520 --> 03:11:50,080
Speaker 4: let it slide. Black women who graduated from the Holly

3830
03:11:50,080 --> 03:11:55,640
Speaker 4: Bed driving school. The weed came off with the foot

3831
03:11:55,720 --> 03:11:59,960
Speaker 4: black as in, oh yeah, okay. You know, when you're

3832
03:12:00,120 --> 03:12:02,959
Speaker 4: driving and the passenger says you'll get points for running

3833
03:12:02,959 --> 03:12:05,720
Speaker 4: over white people like a real life video game, the

3834
03:12:05,800 --> 03:12:09,800
Speaker 4: driver is black. The correct answer is and I think

3835
03:12:10,120 --> 03:12:11,480
Speaker 4: everybody gets the same thing.

3836
03:12:11,760 --> 03:12:13,640
Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, you.

3837
03:12:13,640 --> 03:12:16,400
Speaker 4: Guys all got it right. She she was a black woman.

3838
03:12:18,600 --> 03:12:20,400
Speaker 4: I would I'm trying. Oh there you go, that's the

3839
03:12:20,440 --> 03:12:24,400
Speaker 4: applause button. Oh no, I didn't even click it, right,

3840
03:12:24,800 --> 03:12:30,480
Speaker 4: Oh well, anyway, she's black, and she looked like, there

3841
03:12:30,520 --> 03:12:32,840
Speaker 4: you go. Let me put her picture up for y'all,

3842
03:12:32,840 --> 03:12:34,680
Speaker 4: and then we'll go into sword ratchiness. And that's the

3843
03:12:34,760 --> 03:12:39,520
Speaker 4: last thing. Let me play this long ass sound effect

3844
03:12:39,680 --> 03:12:44,640
Speaker 4: as well. Uh sword ratchetness. Where we're at? Where we at?

3845
03:12:44,720 --> 03:13:07,760
Speaker 4: There we go? Mm hmm.

3846
03:13:09,040 --> 03:13:12,960
Speaker 5: And he did all right? Did did it show up?

3847
03:13:13,000 --> 03:13:13,200
Speaker 1: Care?

3848
03:13:13,920 --> 03:13:14,080
Speaker 2: You know?

3849
03:13:14,160 --> 03:13:15,520
Speaker 6: Sometimes?

3850
03:13:15,760 --> 03:13:16,080
Speaker 2: Oh?

3851
03:13:16,120 --> 03:13:17,920
Speaker 4: Oh you know, it just gave me the thing saying

3852
03:13:17,920 --> 03:13:21,240
Speaker 4: that had trouble showed Give me one second problem, I'll

3853
03:13:21,280 --> 03:13:26,000
Speaker 4: try to put it back. But uh yeah, man, she

3854
03:13:26,000 --> 03:13:31,160
Speaker 4: she did the damn thing. Uh why why didn't How

3855
03:13:31,200 --> 03:13:31,959
Speaker 4: does that happen?

3856
03:13:32,040 --> 03:13:32,200
Speaker 2: Man?

3857
03:13:32,240 --> 03:13:34,840
Speaker 4: I just you know what, I just don't understand. I'm

3858
03:13:34,840 --> 03:13:37,400
Speaker 4: a lover for the letter fortunate life. I ain't worried

3859
03:13:37,440 --> 03:13:40,200
Speaker 4: about getting cheated all like that, but I just don't

3860
03:13:40,200 --> 03:13:42,000
Speaker 4: know how to fuck You end up attacking the other

3861
03:13:42,080 --> 03:13:44,840
Speaker 4: person like it's their fault.

3862
03:13:44,959 --> 03:13:47,680
Speaker 1: Because a lot of that bulls down at the patriarchy.

3863
03:13:47,800 --> 03:13:51,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's like men are never held accountable. Everybody

3864
03:13:51,400 --> 03:13:54,039
Speaker 1: holds women accountable, even though the women. Even if it

3865
03:13:54,040 --> 03:13:57,080
Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense why a me and you fighting?

3866
03:13:57,440 --> 03:13:58,200
Speaker 6: The problem?

3867
03:13:58,680 --> 03:14:03,480
Speaker 1: But it's known is one of pick me, he chose me, okay,

3868
03:14:04,280 --> 03:14:05,439
Speaker 1: so I attack.

3869
03:14:05,240 --> 03:14:06,160
Speaker 6: You, well he mine?

3870
03:14:07,200 --> 03:14:07,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

3871
03:14:07,680 --> 03:14:10,480
Speaker 3: Also, oftentimes you're getting cheated on, he's still in love

3872
03:14:10,520 --> 03:14:13,320
Speaker 3: with the person. If you attack them, you have to

3873
03:14:13,360 --> 03:14:16,320
Speaker 3: admit that they did you wrong, doesn't have to do

3874
03:14:16,360 --> 03:14:16,959
Speaker 3: you have to do.

3875
03:14:16,879 --> 03:14:18,879
Speaker 2: Something about it. But if you want to keep your man,

3876
03:14:18,959 --> 03:14:20,880
Speaker 2: you fight the girl. You don't want to let your

3877
03:14:20,920 --> 03:14:21,600
Speaker 2: man girl.

3878
03:14:21,879 --> 03:14:23,360
Speaker 4: You know what, that's a good point. I never thought

3879
03:14:23,360 --> 03:14:23,800
Speaker 4: about that.

3880
03:14:24,040 --> 03:14:26,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's the pressure for women too, because you know,

3881
03:14:26,360 --> 03:14:27,000
Speaker 6: it's like.

3882
03:14:26,959 --> 03:14:29,640
Speaker 4: I can fight off this person and make it inconvenience

3883
03:14:29,680 --> 03:14:32,600
Speaker 4: so they'll stop sucking my man or or a woman.

3884
03:14:32,600 --> 03:14:34,720
Speaker 4: Because I was gonna say, I've seen men do this too,

3885
03:14:34,840 --> 03:14:37,800
Speaker 4: like it's just but that makes sense. Yeah, you still

3886
03:14:38,040 --> 03:14:40,800
Speaker 4: quote unquote love that person. Hell, you might even know

3887
03:14:40,840 --> 03:14:44,320
Speaker 4: they was cheating. So h yep, all right. Last thing,

3888
03:14:44,640 --> 03:14:47,920
Speaker 4: a woman is in the hospital with several lacerations at

3889
03:14:47,959 --> 03:14:49,920
Speaker 4: the police say her ex boyfriend attacked with a second

3890
03:14:49,959 --> 03:14:55,039
Speaker 4: roun damn. Scott Pool's police arrested David McDaniel, fifty one,

3891
03:14:55,120 --> 03:14:58,080
Speaker 4: on several charges, including the salt and kidnapping. The woman

3892
03:14:58,080 --> 03:15:00,080
Speaker 4: told Belice that McDaniel struck her with a seton I

3893
03:15:00,120 --> 03:15:02,600
Speaker 4: saw it on Wednesday, February eighth. She was taken to

3894
03:15:02,640 --> 03:15:05,920
Speaker 4: the Portland Area Hospital with injuries to her neck, her back,

3895
03:15:06,240 --> 03:15:11,920
Speaker 4: her shoulder, and her crack. McDaniel was not at his home,

3896
03:15:12,440 --> 03:15:15,480
Speaker 4: so officers sent out in an attempt to locate call.

3897
03:15:16,240 --> 03:15:20,480
Speaker 4: He was eventually detaining in Portland on Saturday, where they

3898
03:15:20,480 --> 03:15:22,680
Speaker 4: took him into custody. While heading to the Columbia County

3899
03:15:22,720 --> 03:15:26,800
Speaker 4: in jail, they said McDaniel became non complaint and combative,

3900
03:15:27,040 --> 03:15:29,640
Speaker 4: none compliant and combative and damaged the back of the

3901
03:15:29,640 --> 03:15:32,680
Speaker 4: patrol car. The officer pulled over there the Saint John's

3902
03:15:32,680 --> 03:15:35,320
Speaker 4: Bridge and waited for backup for Portland police and the

3903
03:15:35,320 --> 03:15:38,520
Speaker 4: Columbia County Sheriff's office. The law enforcement officers restrained him

3904
03:15:38,720 --> 03:15:42,000
Speaker 4: and the soft body restrained the advice for his safety

3905
03:15:42,320 --> 03:15:45,160
Speaker 4: before he finished the journey in a jail Transports van.

3906
03:15:45,560 --> 03:15:47,560
Speaker 4: He was booked on they ain't give him no rough ry.

3907
03:15:47,680 --> 03:15:50,240
Speaker 4: He was booked on her first degree of saw, first

3908
03:15:50,240 --> 03:15:53,560
Speaker 4: degree kidnapping, a lawful use of weapon, miniscing harassment at

3909
03:15:53,600 --> 03:15:58,920
Speaker 4: second degree criminal mischief. All right, First of all, thank

3910
03:15:58,959 --> 03:16:03,480
Speaker 4: you for attending church and Beyonce today. Yes, I know

3911
03:16:03,560 --> 03:16:05,240
Speaker 4: it takes a lot to be on here when we're

3912
03:16:05,280 --> 03:16:08,840
Speaker 4: staying out and I had to deal with us, but

3913
03:16:08,920 --> 03:16:11,039
Speaker 4: we appreciate you. We're coming through.

3914
03:16:11,560 --> 03:16:11,920
Speaker 2: Thank you.

3915
03:16:11,920 --> 03:16:15,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me nuanced conversation that people don't

3916
03:16:15,959 --> 03:16:17,080
Speaker 1: line will.

3917
03:16:16,920 --> 03:16:17,560
Speaker 6: Not afford you.

3918
03:16:18,080 --> 03:16:21,000
Speaker 5: Also, where can people go see you?

3919
03:16:21,760 --> 03:16:21,920
Speaker 8: Oh?

3920
03:16:22,080 --> 03:16:25,840
Speaker 3: Okay, well, if there are any listeners in Vermont, I'm

3921
03:16:25,840 --> 03:16:29,480
Speaker 3: gonna be at the Vermont Comedy Club in Burlington, Vermont

3922
03:16:29,640 --> 03:16:30,359
Speaker 3: this weekend.

3923
03:16:30,760 --> 03:16:32,920
Speaker 2: If you got any messages for Bernie Sanders, I tell

3924
03:16:33,000 --> 03:16:33,720
Speaker 2: them you set what up?

3925
03:16:34,280 --> 03:16:39,000
Speaker 3: And and uh yeah, I mean I have a bunch

3926
03:16:39,000 --> 03:16:41,800
Speaker 3: of shows in New York. I'm gonna be better about

3927
03:16:41,840 --> 03:16:43,959
Speaker 3: posting them now because Karen gave me a.

3928
03:16:43,879 --> 03:16:48,080
Speaker 2: Word about self promotion and uh yeah, just be on

3929
03:16:48,200 --> 03:16:50,080
Speaker 2: the lookout. I think big things are coming from me

3930
03:16:50,120 --> 03:16:52,880
Speaker 2: this year, so just be on the lookout. I'm sorry,

3931
03:16:52,920 --> 03:16:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm out of breath. I like walked up with flat

3932
03:16:54,640 --> 03:16:59,400
Speaker 2: stairs and I cannot do that. Yeah, just find me

3933
03:16:59,440 --> 03:17:02,440
Speaker 2: on Twitter, Facebook. I'm building my website now. It should

3934
03:17:02,440 --> 03:17:03,080
Speaker 2: be up very.

3935
03:17:02,959 --> 03:17:05,400
Speaker 3: Soon and uh yeah, and be able to look out

3936
03:17:05,440 --> 03:17:08,400
Speaker 3: for that podcast with Marsha and I cook Sander with

3937
03:17:08,480 --> 03:17:11,440
Speaker 3: Marsha and Ray and we're hoping to get that off the.

3938
03:17:11,400 --> 03:17:13,640
Speaker 2: Ground very soon and do live shows and ship like that.

3939
03:17:13,760 --> 03:17:16,600
Speaker 2: So it should be lit. And thank you all for

3940
03:17:16,600 --> 03:17:18,320
Speaker 2: having me. I really really appreciate it. I've had so

3941
03:17:18,400 --> 03:17:18,760
Speaker 2: much fun.

3942
03:17:18,879 --> 03:17:21,120
Speaker 6: No, thank you. I'm so excited. I can't wait for

3943
03:17:21,200 --> 03:17:21,880
Speaker 6: you to blow up.

3944
03:17:22,160 --> 03:17:26,120
Speaker 4: I knew how, I knew how speaking of it, Speaking

3945
03:17:26,160 --> 03:17:29,000
Speaker 4: of which, shout out out Productions, our sponsor, and of

3946
03:17:29,040 --> 03:17:33,320
Speaker 4: course US uh Worldwood Junior Specialist. Tonight, if you're listening

3947
03:17:33,400 --> 03:17:36,600
Speaker 4: to this live or if you hear this Sunday at

3948
03:17:36,720 --> 03:17:40,440
Speaker 4: eleven pm on Comedy Central, Worldwood Jullion man, very funny man,

3949
03:17:41,440 --> 03:17:47,360
Speaker 4: so funny. Hey, he's nice as fuck. Yeah, he's invited

3950
03:17:47,440 --> 03:17:49,680
Speaker 4: us out to see him. When he was in Charlotte.

3951
03:17:50,240 --> 03:17:57,800
Speaker 4: Oh he was so goddamn good funny. He doesn't swear right. Jealous,

3952
03:17:57,959 --> 03:18:00,440
Speaker 4: I don't know how you can do it, you know, because.

3953
03:18:00,240 --> 03:18:03,840
Speaker 3: It's not like he's clean in terms of like the content.

3954
03:18:04,320 --> 03:18:08,000
Speaker 3: His material is still adult, but he's so clean and

3955
03:18:08,480 --> 03:18:11,640
Speaker 3: just funny and likable, just really talented, Like please watch

3956
03:18:11,640 --> 03:18:12,080
Speaker 3: his special.

3957
03:18:12,160 --> 03:18:15,560
Speaker 4: He needs all the monies, yep, So make sure y'all

3958
03:18:15,600 --> 03:18:17,480
Speaker 4: do go out and support them, and make sure you

3959
03:18:17,520 --> 03:18:20,039
Speaker 4: support right man. If you ever mind, go see it.

3960
03:18:20,080 --> 03:18:21,879
Speaker 5: If you're in New York, you should have already seen.

3961
03:18:21,959 --> 03:18:24,920
Speaker 4: I'm really kind of disgusted that you I listen to

3962
03:18:24,920 --> 03:18:27,800
Speaker 4: this and you haven't seen our girl yet. So yeah,

3963
03:18:27,840 --> 03:18:31,200
Speaker 4: we'll talk to y'all soon. Till then, I love you you.

3964
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Speaker 1: Wow