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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of The Clay and Buck Show kicks off

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Speaker 1: right now, everybody, and we're going to get to a

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Speaker 1: lot today. Our friend Eric Hovedy, running in a critical

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Speaker 1: Senate race up in Wisconsin, will be joining us. Carrie Lake,

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Speaker 1: also running in a critical Senate race in Arizona, will

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Speaker 1: be joining later on in the program. So we're focusing

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Speaker 1: in on those Senate battles that are still to be decided.

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Speaker 1: But far and away, far and away. Play that I

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Speaker 1: sat down, that he just looked each other like Brett

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Speaker 1: Baar interview right, yep, yep, yep. So the Brett Bayer

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Speaker 1: interview last night with Kamala Harris. It went about as

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Speaker 1: badly as I think it could possibly go for Kamala.

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Speaker 1: I give all due credit to Brett. There were some

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Speaker 1: people in my mentions on X and elsewhere who doubted

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Speaker 1: that Brett would push and that Brett would ask the

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Speaker 1: kind of questions that Kamala has been avoiding at all

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Speaker 1: costs up to this point. I really mean this. He

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Speaker 1: led with the question I would have led with and

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Speaker 1: I would just say when I was on the Bill

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Speaker 1: marshow first chance I got to speak, I got out

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Speaker 1: there that there are ten million illegals who have come

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Speaker 1: into the country. I mean, this is just devastating, and

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Speaker 1: that is something that she won't say out loud, right, Clay,

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Speaker 1: That's the problem for her is that even video of

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Speaker 1: hers stating the fact would turn into I think a

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Speaker 1: campaign commercial in and of itself that would end whatever

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Speaker 1: possibility there still is for her campaign. We've got a

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Speaker 1: bunch of clips to play. It wasn't heavy on the policy,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Kamala's horrible at this. It's amazing to

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Speaker 1: watch somebody who has been elevated so much professionally based

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Speaker 1: on being a Democrat who plays the game the way

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Speaker 1: they want, based on being a DEI high profile higher

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Speaker 1: based on being somebody who they say, look, see, we

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Speaker 1: have a woman who fits into the following categories that

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Speaker 1: we are voting for or appointing, or whatever the case

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Speaker 1: may be. She's not up for this, not even a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I thought that the it's it's kind of

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Speaker 1: hard to encapsulated Clay, other than just to she's just

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Speaker 1: not very smart. She doesn't have the skill set for this.

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Speaker 1: She was evasive, she was nasty, She did all this

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Speaker 1: rambling of nonsense. She wouldn't answer questions A plus for Brett,

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Speaker 1: f minus for Kamala. What did you see? She has

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Speaker 1: no depth?

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Speaker 2: And maybe that's what ultimately everybody comes to realize is

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Speaker 2: whenever she's pressed on issues. And some people are mad

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Speaker 2: at Brett Baer today because he interrupted her. But you

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Speaker 2: know that we do this sometimes. Sometimes you have to

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Speaker 2: pull me off people because I get upset. I expect

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Speaker 2: that when you're asked a question, you give us an answer,

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Speaker 2: and it should not sound like a cliche to answer

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Speaker 2: to a question that you've given twenty five times before.

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Speaker 2: And I was talking about this with my wife after

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Speaker 2: the interview. Kamala keeps saying, let me give you an example,

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Speaker 2: Buck that one of her core economic pillars is a

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars tax deduction for new small businesses. And

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Speaker 2: I have founded now you have as well, multiple small

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Speaker 2: businesses over my life. Some of them have worked, some

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Speaker 2: of them have failed. And any of you out there

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Speaker 2: that have ever founded a small business, no those first

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Speaker 2: building with Crockett Coffee. There's a lot of struggles involved

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Speaker 2: and it takes a lot to get a small business

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Speaker 2: to profitability. So she keeps she keeps hammering this, Oh,

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Speaker 2: you're going to get a fifty thousand dollars tax deduction,

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Speaker 2: but all costs are already tax deductible. My point on

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Speaker 2: pointing it out is I really think she doesn't understand

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Speaker 2: basic tax code or economic policy. And what you saw

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Speaker 2: when Brett Baher went in on her on the border

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Speaker 2: is she isn't able to demonstrate an understanding of the

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Speaker 2: issue beyond her wrote cliche memorized talking points, and I

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Speaker 2: thought it was an abject disaster for her. And this

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Speaker 2: is what to me, real journalism should be. It should

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Speaker 2: be pushing people on their cliches and making them demonstrate

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Speaker 2: a depth of knowledge of a subject. I went to

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Speaker 2: dinner last night buck with my sixteen year old who

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Speaker 2: does debate, and we were talking about the interview.

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Speaker 1: And you know this because you did debate.

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Speaker 2: If you can only use your initial argument and you

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Speaker 2: well enough. And that's where I thought she was exposed,

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Speaker 1: There's so many moments that were pretty enginducing, that were

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Speaker 1: They knew they had to do something, and the problem

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Speaker 1: they have is every time they're trying to do something

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Speaker 1: that involves Kamala Harris, it actually gets worse. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: best moment I know you shared this was when she

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Speaker 1: looked at Brett Bhaer and she's like, you know what

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Speaker 1: actually don't know what you're like. That was funny because

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Speaker 2: I hadn't in my house, Buck, and I audibly went,

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Speaker 2: oh like it, and my wife and another of her

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Speaker 2: like that was like a like intake of breath. You

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Speaker 1: It was. It was a tough moment. I want to

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Speaker 1: of how this went. And I'm also going to get

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Speaker 1: into how the media is trying to spin this. I

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Speaker 1: crazy too. I'm a little worried actually about the emotional

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Speaker 1: health of some of these anchors. But we'll get there

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Speaker 1: in a few minutes. This is cut five. This gives

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Speaker 1: than we normally would. This from Brett's interview on Fox

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Speaker 3: When you came into office, your administration immediately reversed a

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Speaker 3: number of Trump border policies, most significantly the policy that

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Speaker 3: the US or in Mexico and you switched that policy,

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Speaker 3: they were released from custody awaiting trial. So instead included

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Speaker 3: do you regret the decision to terminate remain in Mexico

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Speaker 3: At the beginning of your administration.

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Speaker 4: At the beginning of our administration, within practically hours of

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Speaker 4: taking the oath, the first bill that we offered Congress,

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Speaker 4: before we worked on infrastructure, before the Inflation and Reduction Act,

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Speaker 4: of taking the oath, was a bill to fix our

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Speaker 1: This, ma'am.

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Speaker 3: It was called the US Citizen Citizenship Act of two

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Speaker 3: thousand exactly twenty one. It was essentially, I've wad a

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Speaker 4: The finish finished responding for this, but you have to

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Speaker 4: let me finish.

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Speaker 3: You had the White House and the House and the Senate.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they did bring up responding to the point

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Speaker 4: you're raising, and I'd like to finish now.

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Speaker 1: I thought Brett was was very gentlemanly with her. This

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Speaker 1: is everything that she does whenever She's in an interview

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Speaker 1: it's how does it feel to be so historic and momentous?

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Speaker 1: What's it like to take on someone as evil as

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump? It's not real questions play. The entire game

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Speaker 2: Brett was great, but he's actually done his homework. And

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Speaker 2: to me, this is what I've been waiting for. It

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Speaker 2: is Kamala being exposed for not doing her homework. You've

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Speaker 2: done a lot of television, Buck, I've done a lot

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Speaker 2: stunned by how many people had very little depth of

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Speaker 2: you behind the curtain. We've talked about this off air.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I've said it on air. When

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Speaker 2: reason why I almost never read them is my position

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Speaker 2: is if I'm going on television and I'm not ready

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Speaker 2: But I'm not going to scramble and suddenly try to

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Speaker 2: You and I both know that. We say the Hemmingway

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Speaker 2: the basis of what you see. There is no Iceberg

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Speaker 2: foundation for Kamala Harris. She does not have any depth

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Speaker 2: of knowledge. This is what she is. She is a

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Speaker 2: she can just repeat talking points. But when you ask

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Speaker 1: Well. I also think that the focus right out of

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Speaker 1: the gate on immigration with this administration, you know, on

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Speaker 1: economic stuff, people will always We'll have the experts come

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Speaker 1: out and they agree. Three hundred experts signed a letter.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: They get some communists who have tenure somewhere to all

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Speaker 1: say that Kamala's policy is going to be great whatever

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Speaker 1: on immigration. Though this was really straightforward. The numbers tell

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Speaker 1: what that story shows is the Biden White House with Kamala.

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Speaker 1: The borders are at one point came in and decide

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Speaker 1: in Mexico policy and that they were going to effectively invite,

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Speaker 1: enforcement of immigration law both at the border Clay and

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Speaker 1: in the interior. Deportations are way down. They let this

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Speaker 1: And to Brett's point, hold on a second. Just saying

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Speaker 1: I tried to fix the problem, I can show up

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Speaker 1: the gasoline. Guys, I'm here to fix it. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: Something to think about as we go to break here,

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Speaker 1: Buck, Yeah, I got yep.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is Israel is on an absolute rampage wiping

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Speaker 2: Quickly, Buck, as we get ready to go back in

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Speaker 2: When we come back, I also want to talk about this, Buck.

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Speaker 1: You know it's important whether you're in a rock band

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Speaker 3: How many illegal immigrants would you estimate your administration has

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Speaker 2: when Brett Baer just says, I don't know what you're

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Speaker 2: talking about, when Kamala kept trying to say, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, and he said, I don't actually

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Speaker 2: know what you're talking about at all?

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Speaker 1: Uh, do we know that? Guys? Do we know what

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Speaker 1: cut that is? Let's play that?

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Speaker 2: Because I thought that was the mic drop moment that

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Speaker 2: really kind of crystallized what a disaster this interview was

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Speaker 2: for Kamala.

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Speaker 3: Listen, more than people tell the country is on the

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Speaker 3: wrong track, they say the country is on the wrong track.

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Speaker 3: If it's on the wrong track, that track follows three

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Speaker 3: and a half years of you being vice president and

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Speaker 3: President Biden being president. That is what they're saying, seventy

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Speaker 3: nine percent of them. Why are they saying that? If

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Speaker 3: you're turning the page. You've been in office for three

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Speaker 3: and a half years.

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Speaker 4: And Donald Trump has been running for office. You've been

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Speaker 4: the personal home on the office a lot, and I

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Speaker 4: both know what I'm talking about. You and I both

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Speaker 4: know what.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually don't what are you talking about.

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Speaker 4: What I'm talking about is that over the last decade,

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Speaker 4: people have the power. But let's over the last decade.

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Speaker 4: It is clear to me and certainly the Republicans who

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Speaker 4: are on stage with me, the former chief of staff

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Speaker 4: to the President Donald Trump, the former defense secretaries, national

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Speaker 4: security advisor, and his vice president one that he is

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Speaker 4: unfit to serve.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's a nonsensical argument from her, But Brett

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Speaker 2: Baar really got that if you're trying to turn the page,

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Speaker 2: how do you turn the page? Means you moved from

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Speaker 2: someone to someone else.

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Speaker 1: You're in power? Now what are you turning the page? Two?

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Speaker 1: For about a week and this was just earlier this month,

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Speaker 1: they were trying this. Kamala's the change candidate thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: going back to hope and change with Barack Obama, I

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Speaker 1: mean the most I know, what does that even mean?

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Speaker 1: It means nothing. It means emotion. It means to make

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Speaker 1: people feel good with words that have no meaning beyond that.

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Speaker 1: But to be the change candidate when you're not it's

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Speaker 1: not just that your party is in power. This would

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Speaker 1: almost be like Joe Biden if he were still running, saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: this guy's running things.

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Speaker 5: She's terrible. He's really bad. We gotta get a new

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Speaker 5: guy in here, you know, not a joke. And every

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Speaker 5: looks at him like you're the guy. You're insane? What

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Speaker 5: is wrong with you? She's the vice president of this administration.

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Speaker 5: She has claimed to have an important role in this administration,

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Speaker 5: to be in the room when all the big conversations.

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Speaker 1: Are happening, and she won't even say how she's gonna

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Speaker 1: change things from Biden. But she's the change candidate. They

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Speaker 1: are selling you nothing. They are set well. I mean, basically,

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Speaker 1: if someone wants to vote Democrat at this point, I'm

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Speaker 1: fine with it. Just say it's because you hate Trump

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Speaker 1: and nothing else matters. Nothing else matters.

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Speaker 2: You can't sell hope and change when you're already in

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Speaker 2: a position of power. And this also, I think ties

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Speaker 2: in with that turning the page element. Kamala Harris has

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Speaker 2: never been asked, to my knowledge buck why she helped

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Speaker 2: to hide Joe Biden's cognitive decline.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe. If you to know how.

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Speaker 2: Captured our media is, that is a fundamental question. She

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Speaker 2: should be asked, Hey, you've been vice president for four years.

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Speaker 2: You've seen Joe Biden behind the scenes for a long time.

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Speaker 2: You've argued he's sharp as attack. When did you recognize

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Speaker 2: that that wasn't actually true? This is I thought, a

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Speaker 2: really good question from Brett Bayer, and what I want

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Speaker 2: you to focus on, Buck is the pause from Kamala

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Speaker 2: where she recognizes that there is no good answer. This

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Speaker 2: is cut seven.

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Speaker 3: Listen, when did you first notice that President Biden's mental

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Speaker 3: faculties appeared diminished?

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden. I have watched in from the Oval office

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Speaker 4: to the situation room, and he has the judgment and

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Speaker 4: the experiment and experienced to do exactly what he has

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Speaker 4: done and making very important decisions on behalf of the

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Speaker 4: American people.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden is not on the ballot.

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Speaker 1: I understanding Donald Trump. Donald Trump talked about it, and.

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Speaker 3: George Clooney within a few minutes of talking to President

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Speaker 3: Biden at a fundraiser that he thought, this was not

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Speaker 3: the same Joe Biden that we saw on the.

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Speaker 4: Debate stack is on the bout.

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Speaker 3: I understand you met with him at least once a

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Speaker 3: week for three and a half years. You didn't have

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Speaker 3: any concerns.

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Speaker 4: I think the American people have a concern about Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Clay, she she does everything to avoid all accountability,

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Speaker 1: and it's so obvious she she was going along with

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Speaker 1: this whole, with the whole notion that Joe Biden could

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Speaker 1: still was okay to be in office. The obvious question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Brett was going back and forth there,

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Speaker 1: and I hate when people do this, like you should

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Speaker 1: have asked, like, well, you're in the heat of something.

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Speaker 1: It's not that easy. But the answer is, why isn't

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Speaker 1: he still running? Then, Kamala, That's what I was hoping

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Speaker 1: he was going to hit her with right there. If

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Speaker 1: he's so sharp and he's so skilled, and he's done

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Speaker 1: such a great job, why is he not the nominee,

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Speaker 1: Especially because he got fourteen million votes and you didn't

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Speaker 1: get any that would have really kind of put her

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Speaker 1: in a corner.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that he actually asked that question, I

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Speaker 2: thought was good. And I think we actually sped up

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Speaker 2: the audio a bit there because when you're watching it

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Speaker 2: on video, you can see her pause. And I think

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Speaker 2: I sent a tweet where I was like, it's almost

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Speaker 2: like you can see the hamster stop running on the

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Speaker 2: brain wheel because she pauses there for a moment, because

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Speaker 2: she can't really think of a good answer. The other

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Speaker 2: part I thought was important in this interview Buck was

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Speaker 2: two things. When he confronted her for the first time

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Speaker 2: with Lake and Riley and the other individuals who are

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Speaker 2: dead because of the border policies, she didn't have a

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Speaker 2: good answer there. And I also thought, when he really

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Speaker 2: got her a little bit flummoxed on the trans issue,

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Speaker 2: do you still support transgender surgeries for inmates? And she

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Speaker 2: tried to say Trump does. Look, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: things you can say about Trump. I don't think he

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Speaker 2: is out there advocating in any way for US to

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Speaker 2: spend tax payer dollars on transgender migrant surgeries. That's a

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Speaker 2: tough that's a tough putt to sink. But that was

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Speaker 2: her only response. She still didn't say that she didn't

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Speaker 2: support it anymore, and she actually then dropped the line

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Speaker 2: basically like you're responsible for the actions of your administration.

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Speaker 2: No kidding, Kamala, that's why you're gonna lose. I actually

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Speaker 2: thought that she would be better in this interview than

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Speaker 2: she was. I thought she would have a tough time.

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Speaker 1: I did too, but my sense was she would try

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Speaker 1: to do the smiling. This is about joy and this

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Speaker 1: is about the future, and speak in these generalities, but

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Speaker 1: generalities that are supposed to make her come across as

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Speaker 1: as a charming, warm positive. Instead, she wanted to dig

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Speaker 1: in after speaking nonsense and blather and take the position

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Speaker 1: that she's like the you know, the one who's making sense.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was I was watching with Carrie in

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Speaker 1: real time, you know, here at home, as I'm sure

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Speaker 1: a lot of you were, and I couldn't believe how

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Speaker 1: bad it was. I was actually taken him back by

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Speaker 1: what a mess she was making of this interview. And

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Speaker 1: you know what the funny thing was this morning, Clay,

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Speaker 1: Do you know what the overwhelming narrative is, Oh, Bear's

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Speaker 1: a jerk on the left? Well, well, that okay, that's

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Speaker 1: I think that's actually number two, though number one is

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Speaker 1: she's so brave she went into the lions Den. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Trump will go anywhere. Trump has sat down with everyone.

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Speaker 1: Trump has been not only has he been ambushed by

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Speaker 1: by journals, he's been indicted and they dragged him into.

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Speaker 6: Court and someone shot him in the ear. I mean this,

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Speaker 6: Trump has been through hell. And Kamala shows up for

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Speaker 6: one short interview. She shows up late she leaves early,

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Speaker 6: she does a terrible job. It's a little bit like

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden is George Washington for being shoved out of office.

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Speaker 1: She had no choice but to do this interview.

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Speaker 2: I I also thought, to your point on my reaction

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Speaker 2: to it. About two minutes in with the Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: June twenty seventh debate, I thought, oh, my goodness, this

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Speaker 2: is so much worse than I thought he was going

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Speaker 2: to be, just based on the slack jawed look, the

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Speaker 2: fact that he couldn't get any thoughts in, and as

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Speaker 2: soon as Brett Bayer started in on immigration, I just

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Speaker 2: I leaned forward further in my seat because it was

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Speaker 2: a bigger dumpster fire than I thought it was going

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 1: And also the immigration issue is the biggest weakness for

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Speaker 1: the Biden Harris I'm sorry, Yeah, the Biden Harris administration,

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Speaker 1: even more so than the economy, because you know, with

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Speaker 1: the high prices, there's a lot of oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: people can always make an argument on the economy. It's

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Speaker 1: not my fault. Presidents get more blame than they deserve,

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Speaker 1: more credit than they deserve. The immigration issue. They caused this.

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Speaker 1: The effect is clear, and the American people despise it

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Speaker 1: by a sixty seventy percent majority. So it was absolutely

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Speaker 1: the right way to go on it, no doubt, and

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Speaker 1: you mentioned it earlier. But in addition to Kamala collapsing,

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Speaker 1: in the next couple hours, we're going to start to

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Speaker 1: talk with some of the Senate candidates out there. There

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Speaker 1: is increasing optimism in a lot of states that not

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Speaker 1: only is Trump doing really well, but that Republicans in

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Speaker 1: the Senate races in many of the battleground states are

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Speaker 1: looking really good too. We'll also take some of your calls.

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Speaker 1: Continue to break down the hits, play the hits.

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Speaker 2: As Buck said of a pretty enlightening interview between Print

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