Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics. Well,
Speaker 1: we discussed the top political headlines with some of today's
Speaker 1: best minds, and Marjorie Taylor Green says Democrats have quote
Speaker 1: already started the killings end quote of Republicans. We got
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Speaker 1: on today who are running. It gets really really awful
Speaker 1: Republicans in Congress. First, we're gonna talk to Max Rose,
Speaker 1: who's running to represent New York's eleventh congressional district, and
Speaker 1: he's going to talk to us about the really interesting
Speaker 1: proposition he's made his opponent to be fined for lying
Speaker 1: in their race. Then we're gonna talk to Monica Tranelle,
Speaker 1: who's running to represent Montana's second district against former Secretary
Speaker 1: of the Interior Maga loser Brian Zinky. And if that
Speaker 1: weren't enough, somehow Mitch McConnell invaded our chat and came
Speaker 1: by and gave us a comment. I'm Donald Trump's truth
Speaker 1: social posts saying he had a death wish, and he
Speaker 1: tells us what he thinks of that. But first we
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Speaker 1: with Kara Swisher and Pivot. Kara Swisher. Welcome to Fast Politics.
Speaker 1: Kara Swisher, How you doing good. I'm so excited to
Speaker 1: have you for any number of reasons. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a fan. I started a podcast at the same time
Speaker 1: you started a podcast, just you know, a continual many
Speaker 1: many things. The first thing I want to talk to
Speaker 1: you about, because I just listened to it, was this
Speaker 1: incredible interview you did with Chris Cuomo. Yeah, it's so
Speaker 1: interesting because it is like, how stressed out do you
Speaker 1: get before you do those? And also how do you
Speaker 1: do that? That's a big question. Those are two big questions.
Speaker 1: Stressed out, not at all, not even slightly. I don't
Speaker 1: ever get stressed out when I do interviews, and I
Speaker 1: just going for the conversation. You know. I think a
Speaker 1: lot of interviewers they have a list. I prepare and
Speaker 1: I think about the strategy around it, but I also
Speaker 1: change when needed, and when the conversation turns, I listen,
Speaker 1: which I think a lot of people don't do. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are interested in gotcha's. I'm
Speaker 1: not even slightly interested in that. Whatever happens the conversation,
Speaker 1: although I am prepay heared if they say something idiotic
Speaker 1: or I don't agree with to push back, and I
Speaker 1: just I'm looking at it as a conversation and that's
Speaker 1: the and I think that's why it works so well.
Speaker 1: And I also don't mind asking hard questions. I don't
Speaker 1: sort of back into them. I don't go well, some
Speaker 1: people are saying that maybe and not me. You know
Speaker 1: people do that, people do that. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: a lot of like with John Stewart, I'm like, a
Speaker 1: lot of people think you're irrelevant, but and I think
Speaker 1: maybe you are too, So tell me why you're not
Speaker 1: or I don't like this show and he's He's like,
Speaker 1: what don't you like about it? And then I said,
Speaker 1: I was thoughtful about it, And so I think they
Speaker 1: appreciate it and they know people are thinking that anyway,
Speaker 1: and so I think that's what the power is. I
Speaker 1: suspect was interesting in the Cuomo interview was and you
Speaker 1: I think you and I have actually talked about this
Speaker 1: the brother, like would you advise your brother? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: brought that in thing. No I said no. And so
Speaker 1: when he was saying you understand his family, I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't, and I wouldn't do it. So I think
Speaker 1: he I sort of blocked that. I've I've seen him
Speaker 1: make that argument and I didn't agree with it, and
Speaker 1: so I was ready to go on that one. In particular,
Speaker 1: I pay attention to what they say, you know, and
Speaker 1: they're little whatever their little word is. But he got
Speaker 1: mad or at you about the T shirts. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know he did, because it was like, you're a loser.
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's what it was, is that, oh,
Speaker 1: now you're said you were at CNN, riding around in
Speaker 1: town cars with Jeff Sucker, you know, sipping the champagne
Speaker 1: at Cohn or wherever you are at the France or something.
Speaker 1: And I think I was like, now you're selling T shirts,
Speaker 1: you know, out of a box in the back and
Speaker 1: the Bronx or something. I think I kind of was
Speaker 1: insinuating that too, so I but I wasn't. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is this is an interesting shift in your life.
Speaker 1: And he was talking the March and March. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't mind. I talk March all the time. It
Speaker 1: was interesting now because I thought like, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: get mad about something, when you get mad about the
Speaker 1: ethical questions and not the T shirts. But it spoke
Speaker 1: to like an ego, saying yes, well, hello, hello, nice
Speaker 1: to meet too. How we wears his suits? I mean,
Speaker 1: and you think I can't a lot of attention to
Speaker 1: physical things. He's very interested in how he looks, and
Speaker 1: that's fine. He's a very good looking man. And I
Speaker 1: always noticed that about people, how what they how they
Speaker 1: present themselves, both the way they do physically and what
Speaker 1: they have to say to you. And I pay a
Speaker 1: lot more attention about what they have to say and
Speaker 1: the way they want to get it through. And sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't say a word he you know, he obviously
Speaker 1: there's one point he talks about how many awards he
Speaker 1: won and I didn't say anything. I didn't make fun
Speaker 1: of it. I just was like, okay, that's it's important
Speaker 1: for you to have people understand you're not an idiot.
Speaker 1: I think that was what that was. And I don't
Speaker 1: think he is, by the way. I mean, as someone
Speaker 1: who has many children but is an only child. The
Speaker 1: weird family dynamics there that those two play out with
Speaker 1: each other, right, Well, it's very Italian. My family is
Speaker 1: Italian too. It's like royalty above everything. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's true. You know what I mean, and I think,
Speaker 1: but I understand that sentiment. I have a lot of
Speaker 1: relatives who are like that, you know, never talk to
Speaker 1: my grandmother was never talk outside the family. I'm like, why,
Speaker 1: like it was, you know, So I understood that kind
Speaker 1: of thing is we'll keep our dirty Lenin's to our
Speaker 1: dirty cells, you know kind of things. And so I
Speaker 1: get I get that. I completely get that. One of
Speaker 1: the things that I really want to talk to you
Speaker 1: about is so my experiences is like a small time
Speaker 1: version of your experience. But I left the Daily Bees
Speaker 1: because I had not a great reb share and I
Speaker 1: moved somewhere where I could get a better reb share,
Speaker 1: and um, they owned everything they did. Yeah, you made
Speaker 1: that deal, didn't you? So did Yeah, so I don't
Speaker 1: own my you know my feed is gone, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: my feed was gone to Yeah, I was. I knew
Speaker 1: that was the case. I actually put in my contract
Speaker 1: with the New York Time. You're talking about the New
Speaker 1: York Times, and I had I had a little bit
Speaker 1: of a back and forth and they didn't Actually there's
Speaker 1: no fourth from them because they never reply. I was
Speaker 1: kind of irritated. They did contact me privately, and they
Speaker 1: had were using the feed. I in my contract there
Speaker 1: was a thing saying I could I could try to
Speaker 1: buy the feed. They could decline. Certainly, they don't have
Speaker 1: to sell it to me, but I had the ability
Speaker 1: to do so, and I did. They said no, and
Speaker 1: I wrote them a note at the time that said, hey,
Speaker 1: I get it. You want to keep the feed, but
Speaker 1: as long as you do a show that's called Sway
Speaker 1: or you know an host, that's fine, whatever, but you
Speaker 1: can't just use it for anything. And if you do that,
Speaker 1: you can't. I didn't say they couldn't do it. I said,
Speaker 1: if you do that, you have to tell people. Because
Speaker 1: they didn't sign up for Tom Dick and Harry, they
Speaker 1: signed up for Karro Swisher and so you just need
Speaker 1: to to disclose. And I felt that was pretty reasonable request.
Speaker 1: And I said that, and they ignored it, and they
Speaker 1: were gonna put it on a show that I actually
Speaker 1: pushed them to do with with people I very much
Speaker 1: like Kevin Ruce and Casey newton Um and I really
Speaker 1: did push for that show. That show was not going
Speaker 1: to happen, and I couldn't. I think I was critical
Speaker 1: to making it happen. And so I think they're wonderful
Speaker 1: and everything else, but they were going to do without
Speaker 1: really being as disclosure, giving as much disclosure. I am
Speaker 1: an opt in person, not an opt out person. The
Speaker 1: New York Times rights continually about the sins of tech
Speaker 1: companies doing opted out, which is, you don't get a choice.
Speaker 1: We just shoved this in you like you're like some
Speaker 1: One of the tweeters said it's a friend of mine.
Speaker 1: Brooke Camerling said it was like shoving the YouTube album
Speaker 1: at you, like no one asked for it, and so
Speaker 1: that was my issue. And you know, they've done a
Speaker 1: trailer that's kind of jokey but not still not the
Speaker 1: same thing. I would like them to say, you didn't
Speaker 1: sign up for this, Like a lot of people were
Speaker 1: sort of why is this here? Why did this suddenly
Speaker 1: get here? And I think you need to explain. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's cool, and we had a difference of
Speaker 1: opinion on it, and they just did it anyway. But
Speaker 1: that's fine. I just wanted to point it out because
Speaker 1: they weren't pointing it out, and so that's all. I
Speaker 1: knew what I was doing when I when I did
Speaker 1: the show, I knew it was there. Yeah, at least
Speaker 1: you could buy your feet I wasn't allowed to buy
Speaker 1: my RSS. Well, you are allowed. You can always make
Speaker 1: a thing. I just put I put in the contract
Speaker 1: for this reason because at news coorep. You know, this
Speaker 1: was long ago. Nobody thought about this. They own all
Speaker 1: my interviews, right, they own every interview I've ever done,
Speaker 1: and thousands of them, you know kind of thing, And
Speaker 1: so I get it. That was the deal I made
Speaker 1: for sort of a shitty salary. I gave away all
Speaker 1: my content and it wasn't that shitty. But in one case,
Speaker 1: when I had the Code conference, I owned a piece
Speaker 1: of it, and I really enjoyed that because then it
Speaker 1: was up and down based on my mine and Walt
Speaker 1: Mossberg's perform it. If we did great, and we did
Speaker 1: a great show, we made a lot of money. And
Speaker 1: boy did we make a lot of money. Newscarp did
Speaker 1: not like that deal. After it happened. They were like,
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't give us a salary raise. That was
Speaker 1: where it started from. They declined to raise our salary
Speaker 1: for what we were doing. We were bringing lots of
Speaker 1: income to the company. But you know, whatever, it does
Speaker 1: feel like on the content side, they've really figured out
Speaker 1: ways to keep as much of the content as possible
Speaker 1: without I'm not saying they're screwing you. It's just why
Speaker 1: wouldn't they Why wouldn't they want it? And so my
Speaker 1: whole thing is I'm not going to be this sort
Speaker 1: of I'm some sad victim of like, oh no, they
Speaker 1: took myself. I took the money for it. In the
Speaker 1: case of news Corps, I knew what I was doing,
Speaker 1: and in one case I did very well because I
Speaker 1: own the revenue, owned part of the revenue. In another case,
Speaker 1: I wanted them just to disclose that's all I didn't.
Speaker 1: They can do whatever they want with it. It's theirs.
Speaker 1: It is theirs. I'm not arguing that point. I just
Speaker 1: think when things drops into your feed without you asking
Speaker 1: for it, I don't think that's right. I just don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's and then pretending it's a okay is
Speaker 1: not right either. So that's my that's my was my quibble,
Speaker 1: and it's a quibble by the way I think people
Speaker 1: find it interesting to know what goes on. You know,
Speaker 1: we're sort of taught to not kind of talk about
Speaker 1: what happens behind the scenes. Why we're the press. It's
Speaker 1: so ridiculous, you know someone from the time. A lot
Speaker 1: of people from the Times wrote me saying thank you
Speaker 1: for saying this, you know, off the record, but they do.
Speaker 1: They're like, why do you have to talk outside the
Speaker 1: same thing with Cuombo. I'm like, because why what don't
Speaker 1: we ask people this all the time. I don't mind
Speaker 1: telling people not everything, obviously, but I think in something
Speaker 1: like this, I don't know why this needs to be
Speaker 1: quietly fixed. I think it's just a good point. And
Speaker 1: I was already kind of irritated because when we saw
Speaker 1: when we left News Corps, we wanted to buy our
Speaker 1: archives of all things to seven years of amazing reporting
Speaker 1: and very groundbreaking reporting and also a lot of early
Speaker 1: videos of all the early Internet. People. Have a Peter
Speaker 1: Teal video that's really quite If you watch it you
Speaker 1: understand him and um and it was very early on
Speaker 1: before he was careful right. They said no, and then
Speaker 1: I got I extracted a promise from the CTO at
Speaker 1: the time to preserve them and make sure the archives
Speaker 1: were didn't it's called link rock. I don't need to
Speaker 1: do it malevently. It's just when they moved platforms, these
Speaker 1: links die, and it's sort of like when you have
Speaker 1: a physical archive. If you've ever been in an archive
Speaker 1: in newspaper, they clip, they have clips, right, real clips,
Speaker 1: and if someone takes when it's gone like and so
Speaker 1: maybe it's on microphici, but that degrades, and so the
Speaker 1: Internet is not supposed to degrade, right, but it does.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, there's gonna be link rot here,
Speaker 1: and that's what happened. And we were I was working
Speaker 1: on my memoir of Silicon Valley and all the articles
Speaker 1: have disappeared, and it's really quite disturbing. All that amazing
Speaker 1: work by reporters, Like I had a lot of the
Speaker 1: current crop of really well known tech reporters all work
Speaker 1: for me at one time. Kurt Wagner, Mike Isaac, all
Speaker 1: kinds of people speaking of stuff that can be out there,
Speaker 1: um elon Musk's tax Yeah. I was just looking at them.
Speaker 1: I was just reading, like little light reading. Are there
Speaker 1: are things in there that you didn't know or that
Speaker 1: you were surprised about? No out now they're all like this.
Speaker 1: It's you know, actually, here's what I think it was
Speaker 1: good for people to see. Ellen is very reasonable off Twitter,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think he came off
Speaker 1: incredibly well He's like, okay, interesting, he wasn't ranting. I mean,
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan was wrapped out time to get the woke
Speaker 1: mop and he just went okay, Like he didn't go yeah, Joe, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like, which which you would
Speaker 1: do on Twitter when I talked to him and he
Speaker 1: goes in and out. But I do over the many years,
Speaker 1: he's very reasonable to talk to. He's not the character
Speaker 1: he plays on TV, right, you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: kind of interesting. There's a little bit of that in him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We've had some beefs over
Speaker 1: the years, but I never feel like they're crazy beefs.
Speaker 1: They're like he didn't like something and he said so.
Speaker 1: He's very forthright in that regard. But he doesn't play
Speaker 1: these juvenile games that he does on Twitter, right, you know,
Speaker 1: the dunking, the ridiculous dunking, stupid jokes and stuff, and
Speaker 1: some of it are fun. Some of it's funny, by
Speaker 1: the way, I like a lot of what he does
Speaker 1: on on Twitter, but a lot of it's really kind
Speaker 1: of yuck, kind of cruel and mean, and so he's
Speaker 1: not like that. So that's one thing I wanted people.
Speaker 1: It was interesting for people to see. He's the one
Speaker 1: that's being like interesting, good idea, you know, that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. And I think some of them sucking up
Speaker 1: to them was kind of funny, fun you know, he
Speaker 1: gets sucked up to all day long and twice on Sunday.
Speaker 1: But I thought that was interesting. I thought some of
Speaker 1: the ideas for the CEO of Twitter or funny weird,
Speaker 1: like his one guy from Uber who I know pretty
Speaker 1: well what Steve Jervison suggested him. I mean, this guy
Speaker 1: got sucked up into some really unpleasant stuff in Twitter.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's not a good idea, although
Speaker 1: very smart guy. So it was interesting to watch people,
Speaker 1: you know, especially Jack Dorsey, who was sort of this
Speaker 1: open wound kind of person and that that was but
Speaker 1: he's like that. If you know him and spend any
Speaker 1: time with him, he is an open wound. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, dear, humanity is going to be dashed
Speaker 1: if Twitter doesn't exist. That was the thing. And they
Speaker 1: do that all the time. Whenever anybody says, you know,
Speaker 1: it's for the good of humanity in the Internet industry,
Speaker 1: I'm always like and ding ding, and he means he
Speaker 1: means it. He actually means it. He's he's very earnest
Speaker 1: and you got that sense from him. Yeah, his power,
Speaker 1: his feeling of powerlessness, which is I think bullshit, because
Speaker 1: he has a lot of power. Even know he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the controlling stock. He's jacked doors, he created it.
Speaker 1: He could have been public about it. He just is
Speaker 1: loath to be like Elana, who is at least gets
Speaker 1: out there and throws a punch. You know, can you
Speaker 1: explain to our listeners, but also mostly to me this
Speaker 1: Republican tech anti trust vote. Republicans had decided they wanted
Speaker 1: to break up big tech, but now they're sort of
Speaker 1: now they maybe don't want to break up big tech. Well,
Speaker 1: I said, I've heard. I mean, I think Kevin McCarthy
Speaker 1: has made it. He went out there and he's from Californian.
Speaker 1: It's like, you go with us and we'll make sure
Speaker 1: you're safe. I think that's it seems to have done
Speaker 1: from many reports allegedly. But I'm please. I mean, this
Speaker 1: guy is at the bottom of the barrel and then below.
Speaker 1: That's my take. What's under the bottom of the barrel.
Speaker 1: That's right. So here's the deal. They don't like this
Speaker 1: anti trust bill. There's some issues with it. I I
Speaker 1: understand their their objections, but this is how legislation goes.
Speaker 1: This is Amy Klovi Shark Grassley bill. And so they
Speaker 1: managed to torpedo the other one, the journalism bill that
Speaker 1: Senator Klobachar had by ted Cruz that Eternal showed um
Speaker 1: adding on some dumb censorship thing. And so the issue
Speaker 1: is they all feel understand the power at tech. One
Speaker 1: group is cynically, I think, saying oh, censorship when it's
Speaker 1: not really the big issue. It's power really, and the
Speaker 1: other one is probably going a little too far right. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: innovation takes care of many of these things and competition.
Speaker 1: But I do think this industry has never had any
Speaker 1: regulation attached to it, and every other industry that this
Speaker 1: size and power does and this is the most powerful
Speaker 1: and doesn't have any And so I think, you know,
Speaker 1: they want to. I think they want to sort of
Speaker 1: preserve all things, and they'll do what they want. Trump
Speaker 1: was actually quite a you know, he attacked Bezos quite
Speaker 1: a bit. He attacked a bunch of companies at the
Speaker 1: same time. Because he loves power, he wants to be
Speaker 1: near them, and he loves wealth, and so he wants
Speaker 1: to be near them. So it's a mixed bag for
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I think, you know, at some
Speaker 1: point there will be a privacy bill past a national
Speaker 1: privacy bill. Uh an anti trust needs to be up dated.
Speaker 1: No question is just going to be a long slug.
Speaker 1: And let me just say Center Cloba Chars tried her best,
Speaker 1: and they're spending nineties some million dollars saying that she
Speaker 1: broke is trying to break the Internet, which is just untrue.
Speaker 1: I mean, the idea of people in Congress understanding technology
Speaker 1: she does, that's not true. She does, for sure, and
Speaker 1: she understands journalism. I think a lot of people do.
Speaker 1: I think you just saw that dumb hearing with Mark
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg and some of the like, especially and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be agist, but old guys don't understand it.
Speaker 1: What is this email? You know, that kind of thing
Speaker 1: that was what it looked like. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people in the Hill get it. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's a business. They don't listen. Nobody listen. I don't
Speaker 1: think Congress can fly a plane and they understand how
Speaker 1: to regulate the that industry. You know, they don't understand finance.
Speaker 1: They know how to figure it out. That's what they're
Speaker 1: there for, is figuring it out. And so this idea
Speaker 1: that they're not tech savvy, it's kind of it's it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a canard. They can they can write.
Speaker 1: It's it's about advertising. You know about advertising kids, You
Speaker 1: certainly do. And so that's the kind of thing. I
Speaker 1: don't think they have to be experts in Technology's what
Speaker 1: tech always brings out. You don't get what we do, right,
Speaker 1: I get what you do. It's capitalism after all, right,
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty much what's going on here. Do
Speaker 1: you think ultimately like the metaverse? They put so much
Speaker 1: money into that. I mean this is meta, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: meta and the metaverse? Yea. Zuckerbroobs put so much money
Speaker 1: into that. I mean, where do you see this all?
Speaker 1: Sort of? I think he's wasting his money right now. Um,
Speaker 1: And I think his business right now is under siege. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Facebook's stock is down a lot. They're not really a
Speaker 1: very big tech company right now compared to the others.
Speaker 1: I think they He's bored with his main business, just
Speaker 1: the way the Google founders became bored with search even
Speaker 1: though it paid for everything and wandered off into all
Speaker 1: kinds of weirdnesses. I think this is what he's hoping
Speaker 1: will be the next big thing, and I think he's
Speaker 1: I think he's wrong. Doesn't mean I'm right, but I
Speaker 1: think that that the the technology is not there, the
Speaker 1: equipment is not there. I don't think the interest is there.
Speaker 1: I do think where Apple is going around are, which
Speaker 1: is augmented reality, is very interesting. And I do think
Speaker 1: we'll all have glass as that will tell us. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just a different form factor. If you
Speaker 1: view the Apple the headphones, the Max, the AirPod Max
Speaker 1: or the AirPods, think of those with a camera in them.
Speaker 1: That'll be interesting, right, Yeah, it will be. They're going
Speaker 1: to have a camera in there. That's so obvious, you know,
Speaker 1: the way they're building these things. And then what and
Speaker 1: then what and then what? And so I think there
Speaker 1: will be a lot of are There will be certainly
Speaker 1: VR for certain things, watching entertainment, porn, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: Makes sense. But I think them I don't think Facebook
Speaker 1: is the most creative companies, and when they wander into creativity,
Speaker 1: it's really a problem because they're not creative. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's right. Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: This was super interesting. Yeah, thank you so much. Max
Speaker 1: Rose is former congressman is running to represent New York's
Speaker 1: eleventh congressional district. Welcome to Fast Politics, Max Rose, what's
Speaker 1: calling on everybody? I just said to you before we
Speaker 1: started recording that we're just gonna the shed. I think
Speaker 1: we have to talk first about this fucking redistricting in
Speaker 1: New York. Come on, man, But look, look, the redistrict
Speaker 1: teams irrelevant. We're gonna win this district. I've won this
Speaker 1: district before. I'm not worried about that, buddy. But I
Speaker 1: do think you'll find it very interesting what I just
Speaker 1: came from doing. I just came from doing a press
Speaker 1: conference where we rolled out a no lying pledge. Now,
Speaker 1: this seems like something that would actually be rolled out
Speaker 1: in my my son's daycare center, a commitment to not lying.
Speaker 1: We put it out there that requesting Nicole Mallley Tackers,
Speaker 1: my Republican opponent in this race, that she joined us
Speaker 1: and signing this pledge whereby if any independent fact checker
Speaker 1: from media to whoever else it might be, declares that
Speaker 1: we have in fact lied, then they will have to
Speaker 1: contribute two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to a campaign
Speaker 1: that addresses the addiction crisis. Excuse me, it's actually a million.
Speaker 1: And if a superPAC comes in and an independent fact
Speaker 1: checker deems that the super pac is lying on one
Speaker 1: of the candidates behalf, then that candidate has to do
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty dollars a day to a nonprofit
Speaker 1: that addresses the addiction crisis until the superPAC ad is
Speaker 1: taken down. Now, I'm interested and keen to see whether
Speaker 1: or not my opponents signs onto this. But our politics
Speaker 1: has just gotten disgusting. The things that you know, the
Speaker 1: Republican Party is seeking to say about Democrats. And there's
Speaker 1: been moments where the Democratic Party has said crazy things
Speaker 1: about the Republican Party. There's a lot that we can
Speaker 1: say about them that is not a lie that we've
Speaker 1: got to elevate. But our politics is just completely ripping
Speaker 1: apart this country. Um, it's leading to violence, it's leading
Speaker 1: to division, and I thought that this UH could be
Speaker 1: one small effort towards addressing them. Let's talk about what
Speaker 1: is going on in Congress right now. You are, you
Speaker 1: have been a member of Congress. You are out of
Speaker 1: Congress right now running a and for your seat. You're
Speaker 1: watching Congress from afar. Talk to me about what you're
Speaker 1: seeing there and what you are, you know, what you're
Speaker 1: pleased with, what you's freaking you out. I think that
Speaker 1: there have been a string of really tremendous legislative wins,
Speaker 1: many of them, the vast majority of them actually bipartisan,
Speaker 1: from the Infrastructure Act to an actual successful piece of
Speaker 1: gun violence prevention legislation, to the Chips Act, which is
Speaker 1: gonna dramatically reinforce America's software based and chip based manufacturing
Speaker 1: prowess too. Really an unprecedented bill to address the affordability
Speaker 1: crisis in the United States of America and the threat
Speaker 1: and the reality of climate change climate chaos was crazy
Speaker 1: though to think. And then I do want to get
Speaker 1: to the issue of jobs. Imagine if Kevin McCarthy had
Speaker 1: been the speaker, not one of those pieces of legislation
Speaker 1: would have even hit the floor of the United States
Speaker 1: House of Representative. He would have undertaken a completely obstructionist
Speaker 1: form of congressional leadership with the sole intent of trying
Speaker 1: to deny the Biden administration any type of legislative win.
Speaker 1: This guy is so far to the right of Mitch McConnell,
Speaker 1: as is the vast majority of his caucus, which completely
Speaker 1: bends to his every whim is quite scary when you
Speaker 1: think about it. They are showing us. He is showing
Speaker 1: us who they are, where their party stands, what they want,
Speaker 1: and they want two things, and they believe them to
Speaker 1: be interconnected. One is that they want the American people
Speaker 1: to be absolutely miserable. They do not want to do anything,
Speaker 1: nor do they want to present any legitimate plan that
Speaker 1: is tied to their own advancement. But the reason why
Speaker 1: they want that is because they believe it's sincerely to
Speaker 1: their electoral gain. That this is unfolding right before our eyes. No,
Speaker 1: there's no need for any innu end though, there's no
Speaker 1: need for any subtlety. There's no need for any guesswork.
Speaker 1: We know what three would look like. You merely have
Speaker 1: to look to it all the things that they voted
Speaker 1: against in then you move on to the issue of DABS,
Speaker 1: and my opponent is perfectly emblematic of where they stand.
Speaker 1: When the Dabbs decision hit, the leadership of the extremist
Speaker 1: National Republican Party, for the most part, was saying, well, Look,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a court's issue, right, This
Speaker 1: is a this is not something that the federal government
Speaker 1: should talk about. This is a a court's issue. And
Speaker 1: then you saw immediately the trigger states come into play,
Speaker 1: women's lives on the line, health on the line, freedom
Speaker 1: on the line, and they vote against protecting the very
Speaker 1: basics of that freedom which had been enshrined in precedent
Speaker 1: for over a half of over a half century. But
Speaker 1: then Graham drops the abortion ban, and suddenly it becomes
Speaker 1: a legislative issue, and they duck and they hide and
Speaker 1: they cower, yet another indication of where they will stay
Speaker 1: and should they actually not forbid have power. There's no
Speaker 1: one who was more upset about Dobbs than me. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've written, like I went back and looked, I've written
Speaker 1: like fifteen pieces of bad Dobs. I mean, I have
Speaker 1: been on the Dobbs wagon. But do you really think
Speaker 1: that McCarthy would be the speaker of Republicans take the House?
Speaker 1: Because I don't, Well, look, I'm not gonna it's difficult
Speaker 1: to get myself in the mindset of predicting what the
Speaker 1: extremist wing of an extremist national party would be doing
Speaker 1: and may I add when I talk about their extremism,
Speaker 1: that's not illustrative of any extremism of your average, you know,
Speaker 1: Republican that you find in the community. Now, this is
Speaker 1: the extremism of their leadership. So I can't get myself
Speaker 1: in their mind. I think Kevin McCarthy, if I would
Speaker 1: have bet, I think that that that he would lock
Speaker 1: it up. That is, unless Donald Trump said he wanted
Speaker 1: to be speaker, and they'll do whatever Donald Trump says,
Speaker 1: right or Donald Trump says he wants Jim Jordan to
Speaker 1: be speaker. I mean, this is the thing that I
Speaker 1: feel like we keep doing as normal people in the world,
Speaker 1: is that we keep thinking that like Republicans wild just
Speaker 1: do something normal in a normal way, like normal people do.
Speaker 1: All evidence since two thousand and fifteen has shown us
Speaker 1: that Republicans will do whatever. Is Really the craziest thing,
Speaker 1: under no circumstances is elevating Kevin McCarthy to the Speaker
Speaker 1: of the House normal or saying I don't care what
Speaker 1: he was, Let's talk about what he is right now
Speaker 1: and what he is plain and simple is two things.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this doesn't necessarily make him insane,
Speaker 1: This is just a statement of fact. One. He is
Speaker 1: willing to do and say anything that Donald Trump says
Speaker 1: to include a democracy, and who's willing to do and
Speaker 1: say anything that results in in in the Republicans winning,
Speaker 1: to include lying, which is why I made that pledge
Speaker 1: to there put that pledge out today. So I don't
Speaker 1: think that's the same choice. There's probably things they could
Speaker 1: do that are even more insane, But no, man, that's
Speaker 1: not that's not the SAE. I just feel like they
Speaker 1: continue to make themselves hostages to Donald Trump. Yeah. Look,
Speaker 1: I think that what we have seen from Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and just let let's just take from onwards, is a
Speaker 1: series of highly erratic behavior that doesn't put the country first,
Speaker 1: whether that is waging war on our democracy and elections,
Speaker 1: on the constitutional process, or that that's taking classified materials
Speaker 1: back to moral Lago so he can show it to
Speaker 1: his country club buddies over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: Though it's him first, not the country first. And and
Speaker 1: that just wasn't the attitude or the mindset that I
Speaker 1: was taught in the military. You know, when I was
Speaker 1: in basically training, you were taught army values, and at
Speaker 1: the top of them was was selflessness. It was putting
Speaker 1: the country first, was protecting and upholding the Constitution. I
Speaker 1: just don't see that from him. Now. What I refuse, though,
Speaker 1: to allow, or to stand by as the Democratic Party does,
Speaker 1: is we cannot allow for that critique, which I think
Speaker 1: is a statement of reality, to then bleed into an
Speaker 1: indictment of the millions and millions of people who voted
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. Many many of them I think are
Speaker 1: a very good, decent patriots. I'm not gonna get into
Speaker 1: that language. And I think it's wrong when you know,
Speaker 1: you see folks all the way at the President Biden
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, an indictment of mega Republicans. I
Speaker 1: don't want the conversation to go in that direction, right
Speaker 1: all right. I mean, I understand that you're running for
Speaker 1: an R plus whatever seed, and I get that that's
Speaker 1: the I understand that clearly there's a lot of bad
Speaker 1: behavior happening on the side of the Republicans. The nuances
Speaker 1: of whether or not. I mean, I do think there
Speaker 1: are people who voted for Trump who are not MAGA,
Speaker 1: who are just people who vote for an R. I
Speaker 1: think that it's smart of Biden to try to separate
Speaker 1: those groups. I don't think that he's trying to throw
Speaker 1: all Republicans out with the bath Order. I think he's
Speaker 1: trying to make a differentiation between people who want lower
Speaker 1: taxes and people who want to overthrow the government. And
Speaker 1: I think that that is a worthy distinction to make.
Speaker 1: The worthy distinction to make is addressing the Trumps agenda
Speaker 1: and addressing particularly more recent Trump is record that's worth.
Speaker 1: But I refuse to give up on the millions upon
Speaker 1: millions of people who quite frankly, where Obama supporters than
Speaker 1: Trump supporters, or maybe they voted for the first time
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, and they did so because, quite frankly,
Speaker 1: they had been ripped off by an economy that had
Speaker 1: completely destroyed the middle class and the working class, where
Speaker 1: you see titans of finance paying lower tax rates than
Speaker 1: people who are working, whether it's in a factory or
Speaker 1: driving a truck or all the like. People who hate
Speaker 1: the idea that Democrats and Republicans are both taking corporate
Speaker 1: pac money, and so they see someone saying, oh, we're
Speaker 1: going to drain the swamp. Now where my sympathy lies, though,
Speaker 1: is that none of that happened right now, and so
Speaker 1: we have got to execute a narrative build a narrative,
Speaker 1: build an argument that rightfully says because it's the truth.
Speaker 1: It's the damn truth that the things that they spoke
Speaker 1: about to never happened, that it was a lie that
Speaker 1: they were hoodwings. That's what I'd like to see. I
Speaker 1: don't think Biden's not saying that. I mean, again, certainly
Speaker 1: that message and the message that labor is the way
Speaker 1: to lift the working man up so that he can
Speaker 1: negotiate and get better pay. I mean, I think that's
Speaker 1: pretty obvious. I don't see Democrats running on that message.
Speaker 1: I think that's a real problem. And look there, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the things that Donald Trump did very well
Speaker 1: was he said to people, I will do for you,
Speaker 1: I will represent you, I will fight for you. Of
Speaker 1: course they didn't do any of that, and he had
Speaker 1: no interest in ever doing that, but messaging wise, it
Speaker 1: was a very persuasive message to voters, and um, I
Speaker 1: do I would love to see Democrats doing more of that.
Speaker 1: But the center here is labor. Without a doubt, the
Speaker 1: center is labor. But if you think, I mean, come on, man,
Speaker 1: I've known you for a little bit. Now you have
Speaker 1: New York City street smarts. If you think that the
Speaker 1: right pathway to winning over people's hearts and minds is
Speaker 1: by telling them that they're the enemy or telling them
Speaker 1: that they're stupid. I mean, come on, it's besides the
Speaker 1: fact that it's politically incompetent and idiotic, and it's also immoved.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what the hell are we thinking talking
Speaker 1: like this? It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 1: You know why? It is that the TRUMPUS agenda is
Speaker 1: enough for us to have a very vociferous commentary on
Speaker 1: not on the people who who support them. Okay, just
Speaker 1: explain to me a little bit about what your race looks.
Speaker 1: Isn't your district a little bit different? Now, it's a
Speaker 1: little different, but for for all intents and purposes, it's
Speaker 1: about the same in the end, And this is one of,
Speaker 1: if not the only, urban swing districts. What this race
Speaker 1: is going to be about is classic on the ground,
Speaker 1: organizing door to door to door. There's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of energy that poculates on the ground before prognosticators
Speaker 1: noted it. How do I know that because that's exactly
Speaker 1: what we experienced in Look, let's let's flash back to
Speaker 1: right when I first declared in seventeen in the district
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump had won by more than the state
Speaker 1: of Texas. I was swing left. Came out with the
Speaker 1: top seventy five list of of pickup opportunities for the Democrats.
Speaker 1: I wasn't on it. It wasn't on it. I was
Speaker 1: counted out every step of the way. But what we
Speaker 1: did is we ignored that noise of you know, these
Speaker 1: cook report journalists or Nate Silver who sits in his pajamas.
Speaker 1: Let's criticized pajamas. You're fine criticizing Nate, but the pajamas
Speaker 1: is a bridge too far. But you know what what
Speaker 1: we did is we ignored that noise and we went
Speaker 1: on the ground, lawn size, street side door knocking, knocked
Speaker 1: over a million dollars, and we're gonna knock well over
Speaker 1: that this time around about the fact that we can
Speaker 1: have a better politics in this country. We can have
Speaker 1: a better America, a better city. Talking about my own
Speaker 1: service background, look, I nearly lost my life in Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: and more importantly than any sacrifice that I ever made,
Speaker 1: that sacrifice paled in comparison, utterly pale to the sacrifice
Speaker 1: I saw other people make. And they did that because
Speaker 1: they stood for what this country's potential is and I
Speaker 1: think that we when when we take that sacrifice and
Speaker 1: then we turn around and spread lies about elections, When
Speaker 1: we turn that around and say that I'd rather do
Speaker 1: anything to try to win an election, to include lying
Speaker 1: about my opponent ripping this country apart, taking away the
Speaker 1: freedoms of millions of women. That spits on the sacrifice
Speaker 1: of so many of the people who have done everything
Speaker 1: they could to build a better country, to build the America.
Speaker 1: They know it's possible. That's what my race is about.
Speaker 1: That's what people on the ground. No, no, it's about.
Speaker 1: And I don't mind the fact. In fact, I kind
Speaker 1: of savor the notion that some people are doubting our
Speaker 1: prospects because we'll be under the radar and then on
Speaker 1: election day we'll have the last laugh and more. And
Speaker 1: and what what would we do is we actually to
Speaker 1: actually put in the work. All right, Thank you, Max Hey,
Speaker 1: it's good having you too, and I look forward to
Speaker 1: seeing you soon. Monica Trannelle is running to represent Montana's
Speaker 1: second district in Congress. Welcome to Fast Politics, Monica tre Now,
Speaker 1: so you are running for Congress in Montana's newly created
Speaker 1: second congressional district. So because it's a newly created district,
Speaker 1: first you have to explained to us what that means
Speaker 1: and what it looks like. So Montana is the first
Speaker 1: state to ever lose a seat and then get back.
Speaker 1: So we had two professional seats through nineteen ninety and
Speaker 1: in the US we lost a seat because of a
Speaker 1: population decline. And then in the census, the population of
Speaker 1: Montana was over a million, and so we were allocated
Speaker 1: a second congressional seat through the census redistricting reallocation process
Speaker 1: since we have been the fastest growing region in the
Speaker 1: country in western Montana. So this new second seat, which
Speaker 1: is actually mt O one, was created through the census.
Speaker 1: It's sixteen counties and two tribal nations of Blackfeet and
Speaker 1: Sailushkoutni travel Nations are also part of this new district.
Speaker 1: Um it's in western Montana and it lies mostly between
Speaker 1: Glacier and Yellowstone National Park, So it goes from Canada
Speaker 1: down to Yellowstone National Park, just to give you a
Speaker 1: sense of where it is. So it's huge, and is
Speaker 1: it a gerrymander district. I don't know how you gerrymander
Speaker 1: with only two districts but explained to us what how
Speaker 1: it was created and was it created to kind of
Speaker 1: disadvantage democrats or not. So Montana has a nonpartisan redistricting commission,
Speaker 1: and so you know, the redistricting commission went through the process,
Speaker 1: went through the entire process, looked at the population and
Speaker 1: tried to make it a contiguous population. We have, you know,
Speaker 1: tried to make the tribal nations sort of roughly fairly
Speaker 1: represented as well as rural and populations. So it contains
Speaker 1: the two biggest university towns in Montana, the University of
Speaker 1: Montana Missoula, which is the Grizzlies, and the Montana State
Speaker 1: Bozeman the Bobcats. So we have the brawl of the
Speaker 1: wild in this district. Like I said, it's the fastest
Speaker 1: growing area in the country. We don't register by party here,
Speaker 1: so the new voters who have come to Montana in
Speaker 1: the last two to four years, and we had a
Speaker 1: big explosion through COVID, there are a lot of unknowns
Speaker 1: about what this district looks like. John Tester would have
Speaker 1: won this district by ten points in his election and
Speaker 1: Steve Bullock in the governor race, well, so he was
Speaker 1: our governor. He was our outgoing governor. In he ran
Speaker 1: for Senate against Steve Banes, and he would have won
Speaker 1: this district had there been a third party candidate. So
Speaker 1: it is competitive. And I ran in twenty for our
Speaker 1: utility commission in seven of the sixteen counties that make
Speaker 1: up this district. And I got forty eight percent of
Speaker 1: the vote for a UM utility commission race in a
Speaker 1: year where no Democrat won, and I was the highest
Speaker 1: performing Democrat by vote share in the state of Montana
Speaker 1: that year. And you are not running against any Republican.
Speaker 1: You are running against a very special Republican. He explained
Speaker 1: to us a little bit about your opponent. So the
Speaker 1: makeup of this race is three candidates. We have John
Speaker 1: Lam a Libertarian, and Ryan Zinky, who is the Republican nominee.
Speaker 1: So the primary shows how disliked Ryan Zinky is. He
Speaker 1: has not lived in Montana for a long time. He
Speaker 1: lives in Santa Barbara. That's his primary home, that's where
Speaker 1: he pays taxes, and that's where he looks like he's from.
Speaker 1: There's that out of the primary. I came out of
Speaker 1: the Democratic side in a competitive primary where I was
Speaker 1: outspent and out fund raised by with sixty of the vote.
Speaker 1: Ryan Zinky came out of the Republican primary, which was
Speaker 1: hotly contested, with just about forty of the vote. So
Speaker 1: sixty percent of Republicans do not like Ryan Zinky. We
Speaker 1: have a poll. We just did it. I'm happy to
Speaker 1: share it with you. His unfavorables are high and they
Speaker 1: are locked in. People do not like Ryan Zinky. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's what we're I am shocked. I am shocked
Speaker 1: because he did I mean, he did this thing which
Speaker 1: Sarah Palin did too, which was he left his congressional
Speaker 1: seat to theoretically run the Department of Interior. Yeah and so,
Speaker 1: and he just embarrassed Montana. He made a fool of himself.
Speaker 1: And you know, he did these caricature things like, you know,
Speaker 1: putting the reel of his fly rod on backwards and
Speaker 1: riding a horse to work, which was just absolutely a joke.
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up horseback riding. I grew up
Speaker 1: on a ranch in eastern Montana with my nine siblings.
Speaker 1: We came home from church on Sundays and went horseback riding.
Speaker 1: That's what we did. And for him to make a
Speaker 1: caricature of Montana is a joke. I mean, we have
Speaker 1: a proud history of really strong progressive thinkers, independent thinkers
Speaker 1: from Antana. Mike Mansfield was the longest serving majority leader
Speaker 1: in our history. Um Lee Metcalf. Those two were instrumental
Speaker 1: in the passage of the Civil Rights Act and the
Speaker 1: Voting Rights Act. Mike Mansfield put them directly on the
Speaker 1: Senate floor for action. Lee Metcalf was a parliamentarian who
Speaker 1: oversaw the debate for seventy five days of the Civil
Speaker 1: Rights Act. We have an awesome tradition of progressive thinkers
Speaker 1: in Montana. And Ryan Zinky is a joke and he's
Speaker 1: an embarrassment. There is no place for him in this state.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at US investigation finds a former Interior
Speaker 1: Secretary Ryan Zinky misused position to advance the development in
Speaker 1: his Montana hometown and failed to disclose his involvement when
Speaker 1: questioned by ethics officials. Right, that's from that's a February
Speaker 1: Inspector General report. Right, And in August there was a
Speaker 1: second one that came out, right, And there's also Trump
Speaker 1: Intier Secretary cross Lines in Land dealing with Aliburton. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Watchdog finds that's another one. Here's a guide to eighteen
Speaker 1: federal investigations going into Ryan's Zinki. So, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a pretty amazing guy to run against right, censorship and
Speaker 1: climate change report, all of those things are terrible, right,
Speaker 1: But here's very visceral. He took his after he was
Speaker 1: fired for lying and for ethics, violent relations and the
Speaker 1: Trump administration, which, right, by the way, is there's no
Speaker 1: small feat. I mean, I don't even know. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: almost impossible to get fired for athletics violations when ethics
Speaker 1: is not something you're interested in. Yeah. So he's flying around,
Speaker 1: he's doing fundraisers in Florida. He's using our tax dollars
Speaker 1: to fly to Florida and inn have added and all
Speaker 1: over the place, using an utter of dollars. But here's this,
Speaker 1: this is something that to me, he after he got
Speaker 1: fired for ethics violations and the Trump administration, he continued
Speaker 1: to use his d o I identification and was caught
Speaker 1: with it at the airport six months after he quit,
Speaker 1: and then he had to turn in his identification to
Speaker 1: his lawyer. So I mean that to me is just this.
Speaker 1: He has no moral compass at all. He will do
Speaker 1: anything for money, anything. How do you win in Montana's
Speaker 1: first district. It's retail politics. It is winning the way
Speaker 1: John Tester wins, the way branch whites are wins. You
Speaker 1: show up, you talk to people. I was in a
Speaker 1: parade in Dylan, Montana, which is Beaverhead County, the size
Speaker 1: of Connecticut, with a population of about nine hundred people,
Speaker 1: hundred voters, and I was shaking people's hands in the
Speaker 1: parade and I shook a guy's hand to had a
Speaker 1: mega hat on, and he said, you got my vote.
Speaker 1: Don't forget about us. You know. I got in Mineral County,
Speaker 1: which is the county that borders Idaho. It's between Missoula
Speaker 1: and Idaho. I was out there and they said, you're
Speaker 1: the first Democrat who's come here maybe ever. I have
Speaker 1: a sign in Rika, which they've said they've never had
Speaker 1: a Democrat sign in that town before. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: think it's it's showing up. It's showing that you care.
Speaker 1: I mean to me, I grew up in rural Montana.
Speaker 1: I get it. I know it. I had as many
Speaker 1: siblings as I did classmates when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: and this is my home. It's what I know. And
Speaker 1: so when I'm campaigning in rural areas and people say,
Speaker 1: you know, don't forget about us. I know what that means,
Speaker 1: and I am totally convinced, and this election will prove
Speaker 1: me out. But I think people in rural Montana and
Speaker 1: rural America, they want somebody to be their champion. They
Speaker 1: want some time to show up for them. And we
Speaker 1: all want that, right Like, that's not different from our
Speaker 1: urban areas. We all want them. The thing I think
Speaker 1: a lot about, especially in rural communities is the hospital problem.
Speaker 1: Right Like, there's a real hospital problem. I don't know
Speaker 1: how far you have to drive to get to a hospital,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's a real problem. And that's something
Speaker 1: that I feel like that's way for Democrats to win
Speaker 1: in rural areas. So as illustrated specifically in a couple
Speaker 1: of instances where in places I visited, so Troy, Montana,
Speaker 1: which is up in the very northwest corner and fun fact,
Speaker 1: it's actually the lowest elevation in Montana, there is not
Speaker 1: as a there's not a place as a woman where
Speaker 1: you could get an annual check up, so which means
Speaker 1: that you couldn't get a prescription for birth control pill.
Speaker 1: You'd have to travel and you have to travel significant distances. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the other piece of that too. I mean you've
Speaker 1: identified distance, but we have to tribal nations which have
Speaker 1: in health services and so. And we also have, you know,
Speaker 1: our most significant minority population, our Native Americans, and once
Speaker 1: they come from the tribal nation into other areas like
Speaker 1: their urban centers, they don't automatically have healthcare that follows them,
Speaker 1: and so there are those issues as well, So healthcare
Speaker 1: issues delivering it. In Montana, we have you know, I
Speaker 1: think fifties seven and fifty nine, I don't know the
Speaker 1: exact numbers, but something like that are critical access healthcare facilities.
Speaker 1: So you know they they are large distances. Um. And
Speaker 1: then I heard a story there was a motorcycle accident
Speaker 1: out on one of our highways and it took it
Speaker 1: was over an hour before the first responders arrived. So
Speaker 1: everybody being okay, but those you know, an hour is
Speaker 1: the difference between life and death. I also think the
Speaker 1: tribal nations. I just want to get back into this
Speaker 1: because I spend a lot of time in New Mexico,
Speaker 1: so they really have shown up and delivered states to
Speaker 1: Democrats before. Yes, that population is a significant voting block
Speaker 1: and it's important that you know, we show up there
Speaker 1: and I've certainly been working to do that. And I
Speaker 1: actually went to my early elementary education at St. Libray
Speaker 1: on the Cheyenne Nation in eastern Montana, and so I
Speaker 1: have some a perspective of life in you know, that world,
Speaker 1: and I know Republicans have been trying to make it
Speaker 1: harder for those people to vote in different ways identification laws,
Speaker 1: especially because a lot of the Indigenous people don't have
Speaker 1: those kind of identifications. Can you talk about that a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, So we actually have some really great
Speaker 1: voter protection laws which the legislature, our legislature meets every
Speaker 1: two years. Legislature really walked back a lot of the
Speaker 1: voter protections that we've had in place, and so they
Speaker 1: were there were some significant voter suppression laws passed and
Speaker 1: these those have been litigated and the Supreme Court of
Speaker 1: Montana just last week issued a decision um rejecting those
Speaker 1: laws as I'm constitutional. So right now, as we stand today,
Speaker 1: we have good voter protection laws in place. Um, but
Speaker 1: you know that's always subject to change and confusion as
Speaker 1: a significant component of it too. So we you know,
Speaker 1: there's on again off again, on again, off again. But
Speaker 1: today for this election, right now we're able to do
Speaker 1: same day voter registration UM and and the you know,
Speaker 1: the voter options are still broadly protected in Montana. That's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Is it Ryan choice voting in your state? No, it's not.
Speaker 1: But we do have a third party Canada, a libertarian.
Speaker 1: And so this we just did a poll. Like I said,
Speaker 1: there races within two points. Were super excited about that
Speaker 1: after getting my message out. Our poll shows that I'm
Speaker 1: up by seven and where people know me and they
Speaker 1: also know Ryan Zinkie, I'm up by twelve. So I
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up here. This is my home.
Speaker 1: I spent my entire career here standing up to our
Speaker 1: monopoly corporations and winning. I have ranch clients across the state.
Speaker 1: This is the place that I've been in working for
Speaker 1: I've been in Montana working for Montana's, delivering from Montana's
Speaker 1: my entire professional career. I have nine siblings. Everywhere I go,
Speaker 1: people say, oh, I know your sister, I played basketball
Speaker 1: against your brother. You know I dated your brother or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know. This is my two sides, the dated the brother.
Speaker 1: This is my home, It's my only home. I don't
Speaker 1: have another one. I'm not going into in Santa Barbara, right. Yeah, Monica,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. This is great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for everything you do. I love
Speaker 1: your podcast, love hearing everything you do, fun stuff. Thank
Speaker 1: you for making time for me, Molly, John Fast, Jessie Cannon,
Speaker 1: I heard Mr Trump sent a truth. Yes, I will
Speaker 1: now read to you a truth. Is the truth? Or
Speaker 1: is it a truth? Because there's many of them, and
Speaker 1: there's many truths Tonald Trump as many truths to drop.
Speaker 1: Is McConnell approving all of these trillions of dollars worth
Speaker 1: of Democrats sponsored bills without even the slightest bit of
Speaker 1: negotiation because he hates Donald J. Trump and he knows
Speaker 1: I am strongly opposed to them. Or is he doing
Speaker 1: it because he believes in the fake and destructive Green
Speaker 1: New Deal, which, by the way, that's a blast from
Speaker 1: the past, and is willing to take the country down
Speaker 1: with him in any event. Either reason is unacceptable. He
Speaker 1: has a capital letters death. Wisha. This is really weird. Wait, Jesse,
Speaker 1: is that Mitch McConnell entering the zoom room. Molly, let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. I'm curious outrage. I hardly. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm matter than a I'm matter than someone who finds
Speaker 1: out their first cousin can actually like safely bear their
Speaker 1: genetic load. I will tell you one thing. I'm so
Speaker 1: I'm so livid with Donald Trump right now. I'm saying
Speaker 1: these terrible racist things about my wife and claim and
Speaker 1: I have a death wish. I'm so livid right now
Speaker 1: that I'm absolutely gonna support him is the nominee of
Speaker 1: the Republican Party. I'm absolutely so angry. My masculinity has
Speaker 1: been so deeply offended that I'll swear I will fight
Speaker 1: Donald Trump until we are down on the mat rolling around.
Speaker 1: And I I found it myself straightly aroused by the entire process.
Speaker 1: I refused. What's fan besmirks the honor of my beautiful wife.
Speaker 1: And except in so far as I will cower like
Speaker 1: a like a frightened small mammal being chased across the
Speaker 1: plains of the of the Jurassic era by some sort
Speaker 1: of gigantic rep pile. But I find Rick Scott, it's
Speaker 1: enough of a red pile in my life already to
Speaker 1: complete these to ser I will look tolerate it, except
Speaker 1: in so far as I completely will thank you Old Crow.
Speaker 1: Certainly not Rick Wilson. He's a terrible human being who
Speaker 1: marks my accent, who marks my action and my and
Speaker 1: my manliness every day. It's definitely not goodbye. I'm only
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