1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics. Well, 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: we discussed the top political headlines with some of today's 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: best minds, and Marjorie Taylor Green says Democrats have quote 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: already started the killings end quote of Republicans. We got 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: one hell of a show. We're actually have two candidates 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: on today who are running. It gets really really awful 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: Republicans in Congress. First, we're gonna talk to Max Rose, 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: who's running to represent New York's eleventh congressional district, and 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: he's going to talk to us about the really interesting 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: proposition he's made his opponent to be fined for lying 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: in their race. Then we're gonna talk to Monica Tranelle, 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: who's running to represent Montana's second district against former Secretary 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: of the Interior Maga loser Brian Zinky. And if that 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: weren't enough, somehow Mitch McConnell invaded our chat and came 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: by and gave us a comment. I'm Donald Trump's truth 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: social posts saying he had a death wish, and he 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: tells us what he thinks of that. But first we 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: have the absolute pleasure of welcoming the host of On 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: with Kara Swisher and Pivot. Kara Swisher. Welcome to Fast Politics. 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: Kara Swisher, How you doing good. I'm so excited to 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: have you for any number of reasons. You know, I'm 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: a fan. I started a podcast at the same time 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: you started a podcast, just you know, a continual many 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: many things. The first thing I want to talk to 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: you about, because I just listened to it, was this 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: incredible interview you did with Chris Cuomo. Yeah, it's so 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: interesting because it is like, how stressed out do you 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: get before you do those? And also how do you 29 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: do that? That's a big question. Those are two big questions. 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: Stressed out, not at all, not even slightly. I don't 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: ever get stressed out when I do interviews, and I 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: just going for the conversation. You know. I think a 33 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: lot of interviewers they have a list. I prepare and 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: I think about the strategy around it, but I also 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: change when needed, and when the conversation turns, I listen, 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: which I think a lot of people don't do. I 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: think a lot of people are interested in gotcha's. I'm 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: not even slightly interested in that. Whatever happens the conversation, 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: although I am prepay heared if they say something idiotic 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: or I don't agree with to push back, and I 41 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: just I'm looking at it as a conversation and that's 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: the and I think that's why it works so well. 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: And I also don't mind asking hard questions. I don't 44 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: sort of back into them. I don't go well, some 45 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: people are saying that maybe and not me. You know 46 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: people do that, people do that. I'm like, all right, 47 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: a lot of like with John Stewart, I'm like, a 48 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: lot of people think you're irrelevant, but and I think 49 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: maybe you are too, So tell me why you're not 50 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: or I don't like this show and he's He's like, 51 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: what don't you like about it? And then I said, 52 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: I was thoughtful about it, And so I think they 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: appreciate it and they know people are thinking that anyway, 54 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: and so I think that's what the power is. I 55 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: suspect was interesting in the Cuomo interview was and you 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: I think you and I have actually talked about this 57 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: the brother, like would you advise your brother? Yeah, I 58 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: brought that in thing. No I said no. And so 59 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: when he was saying you understand his family, I'm like, no, 60 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: I don't, and I wouldn't do it. So I think 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: he I sort of blocked that. I've I've seen him 62 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: make that argument and I didn't agree with it, and 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: so I was ready to go on that one. In particular, 64 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: I pay attention to what they say, you know, and 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: they're little whatever their little word is. But he got 66 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: mad or at you about the T shirts. Yeah, I 67 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: know he did, because it was like, you're a loser. 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's what it was, is that, oh, 69 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: now you're said you were at CNN, riding around in 70 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: town cars with Jeff Sucker, you know, sipping the champagne 71 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: at Cohn or wherever you are at the France or something. 72 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: And I think I was like, now you're selling T shirts, 73 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, out of a box in the back and 74 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: the Bronx or something. I think I kind of was 75 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: insinuating that too, so I but I wasn't. I was like, hey, 76 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: this is this is an interesting shift in your life. 77 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: And he was talking the March and March. I'm sorry, 78 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't mind. I talk March all the time. It 79 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: was interesting now because I thought like, if you're gonna 80 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: get mad about something, when you get mad about the 81 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: ethical questions and not the T shirts. But it spoke 82 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: to like an ego, saying yes, well, hello, hello, nice 83 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: to meet too. How we wears his suits? I mean, 84 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: and you think I can't a lot of attention to 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: physical things. He's very interested in how he looks, and 86 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: that's fine. He's a very good looking man. And I 87 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: always noticed that about people, how what they how they 88 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: present themselves, both the way they do physically and what 89 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: they have to say to you. And I pay a 90 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: lot more attention about what they have to say and 91 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: the way they want to get it through. And sometimes 92 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: I don't say a word he you know, he obviously 93 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: there's one point he talks about how many awards he 94 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: won and I didn't say anything. I didn't make fun 95 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: of it. I just was like, okay, that's it's important 96 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: for you to have people understand you're not an idiot. 97 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: I think that was what that was. And I don't 98 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: think he is, by the way. I mean, as someone 99 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: who has many children but is an only child. The 100 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: weird family dynamics there that those two play out with 101 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: each other, right, Well, it's very Italian. My family is 102 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: Italian too. It's like royalty above everything. I don't think 103 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: that's true. You know what I mean, and I think, 104 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: but I understand that sentiment. I have a lot of 105 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: relatives who are like that, you know, never talk to 106 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: my grandmother was never talk outside the family. I'm like, why, 107 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: like it was, you know, So I understood that kind 108 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: of thing is we'll keep our dirty Lenin's to our 109 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: dirty cells, you know kind of things. And so I 110 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: get I get that. I completely get that. One of 111 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: the things that I really want to talk to you 112 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: about is so my experiences is like a small time 113 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: version of your experience. But I left the Daily Bees 114 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: because I had not a great reb share and I 115 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: moved somewhere where I could get a better reb share, 116 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: and um, they owned everything they did. Yeah, you made 117 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: that deal, didn't you? So did Yeah, so I don't 118 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: own my you know my feed is gone, yes, yes, 119 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: my feed was gone to Yeah, I was. I knew 120 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: that was the case. I actually put in my contract 121 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: with the New York Time. You're talking about the New 122 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: York Times, and I had I had a little bit 123 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: of a back and forth and they didn't Actually there's 124 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: no fourth from them because they never reply. I was 125 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: kind of irritated. They did contact me privately, and they 126 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: had were using the feed. I in my contract there 127 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: was a thing saying I could I could try to 128 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: buy the feed. They could decline. Certainly, they don't have 129 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: to sell it to me, but I had the ability 130 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: to do so, and I did. They said no, and 131 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: I wrote them a note at the time that said, hey, 132 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: I get it. You want to keep the feed, but 133 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: as long as you do a show that's called Sway 134 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: or you know an host, that's fine, whatever, but you 135 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: can't just use it for anything. And if you do that, 136 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: you can't. I didn't say they couldn't do it. I said, 137 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,559 Speaker 1: if you do that, you have to tell people. Because 138 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: they didn't sign up for Tom Dick and Harry, they 139 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: signed up for Karro Swisher and so you just need 140 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: to to disclose. And I felt that was pretty reasonable request. 141 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: And I said that, and they ignored it, and they 142 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: were gonna put it on a show that I actually 143 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: pushed them to do with with people I very much 144 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: like Kevin Ruce and Casey newton Um and I really 145 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: did push for that show. That show was not going 146 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: to happen, and I couldn't. I think I was critical 147 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: to making it happen. And so I think they're wonderful 148 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: and everything else, but they were going to do without 149 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: really being as disclosure, giving as much disclosure. I am 150 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: an opt in person, not an opt out person. The 151 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: New York Times rights continually about the sins of tech 152 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: companies doing opted out, which is, you don't get a choice. 153 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: We just shoved this in you like you're like some 154 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: One of the tweeters said it's a friend of mine. 155 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: Brooke Camerling said it was like shoving the YouTube album 156 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: at you, like no one asked for it, and so 157 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: that was my issue. And you know, they've done a 158 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: trailer that's kind of jokey but not still not the 159 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: same thing. I would like them to say, you didn't 160 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: sign up for this, Like a lot of people were 161 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: sort of why is this here? Why did this suddenly 162 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: get here? And I think you need to explain. I 163 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: don't think it's cool, and we had a difference of 164 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: opinion on it, and they just did it anyway. But 165 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: that's fine. I just wanted to point it out because 166 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: they weren't pointing it out, and so that's all. I 167 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: knew what I was doing when I when I did 168 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: the show, I knew it was there. Yeah, at least 169 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: you could buy your feet I wasn't allowed to buy 170 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: my RSS. Well, you are allowed. You can always make 171 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: a thing. I just put I put in the contract 172 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: for this reason because at news coorep. You know, this 173 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: was long ago. Nobody thought about this. They own all 174 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: my interviews, right, they own every interview I've ever done, 175 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: and thousands of them, you know kind of thing, And 176 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: so I get it. That was the deal I made 177 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: for sort of a shitty salary. I gave away all 178 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 1: my content and it wasn't that shitty. But in one case, 179 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: when I had the Code conference, I owned a piece 180 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: of it, and I really enjoyed that because then it 181 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: was up and down based on my mine and Walt 182 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: Mossberg's perform it. If we did great, and we did 183 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: a great show, we made a lot of money. And 184 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: boy did we make a lot of money. Newscarp did 185 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: not like that deal. After it happened. They were like, 186 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: but they wouldn't give us a salary raise. That was 187 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: where it started from. They declined to raise our salary 188 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: for what we were doing. We were bringing lots of 189 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: income to the company. But you know, whatever, it does 190 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: feel like on the content side, they've really figured out 191 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: ways to keep as much of the content as possible 192 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: without I'm not saying they're screwing you. It's just why 193 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't they Why wouldn't they want it? And so my 194 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: whole thing is I'm not going to be this sort 195 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: of I'm some sad victim of like, oh no, they 196 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: took myself. I took the money for it. In the 197 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: case of news Corps, I knew what I was doing, 198 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: and in one case I did very well because I 199 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: own the revenue, owned part of the revenue. In another case, 200 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: I wanted them just to disclose that's all I didn't. 201 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: They can do whatever they want with it. It's theirs. 202 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: It is theirs. I'm not arguing that point. I just 203 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: think when things drops into your feed without you asking 204 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: for it, I don't think that's right. I just don't know. 205 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: I think it's and then pretending it's a okay is 206 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: not right either. So that's my that's my was my quibble, 207 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: and it's a quibble by the way I think people 208 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: find it interesting to know what goes on. You know, 209 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: we're sort of taught to not kind of talk about 210 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: what happens behind the scenes. Why we're the press. It's 211 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: so ridiculous, you know someone from the time. A lot 212 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: of people from the Times wrote me saying thank you 213 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: for saying this, you know, off the record, but they do. 214 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: They're like, why do you have to talk outside the 215 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: same thing with Cuombo. I'm like, because why what don't 216 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: we ask people this all the time. I don't mind 217 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: telling people not everything, obviously, but I think in something 218 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: like this, I don't know why this needs to be 219 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: quietly fixed. I think it's just a good point. And 220 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: I was already kind of irritated because when we saw 221 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: when we left News Corps, we wanted to buy our 222 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: archives of all things to seven years of amazing reporting 223 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: and very groundbreaking reporting and also a lot of early 224 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: videos of all the early Internet. People. Have a Peter 225 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: Teal video that's really quite If you watch it you 226 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: understand him and um and it was very early on 227 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: before he was careful right. They said no, and then 228 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: I got I extracted a promise from the CTO at 229 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: the time to preserve them and make sure the archives 230 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: were didn't it's called link rock. I don't need to 231 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: do it malevently. It's just when they moved platforms, these 232 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: links die, and it's sort of like when you have 233 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: a physical archive. If you've ever been in an archive 234 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: in newspaper, they clip, they have clips, right, real clips, 235 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: and if someone takes when it's gone like and so 236 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: maybe it's on microphici, but that degrades, and so the 237 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: Internet is not supposed to degrade, right, but it does. 238 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: And so I was like, there's gonna be link rot here, 239 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: and that's what happened. And we were I was working 240 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: on my memoir of Silicon Valley and all the articles 241 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: have disappeared, and it's really quite disturbing. All that amazing 242 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: work by reporters, Like I had a lot of the 243 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: current crop of really well known tech reporters all work 244 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: for me at one time. Kurt Wagner, Mike Isaac, all 245 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: kinds of people speaking of stuff that can be out there, 246 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: um elon Musk's tax Yeah. I was just looking at them. 247 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: I was just reading, like little light reading. Are there 248 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: are things in there that you didn't know or that 249 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: you were surprised about? No out now they're all like this. 250 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: It's you know, actually, here's what I think it was 251 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: good for people to see. Ellen is very reasonable off Twitter, 252 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think he came off 253 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: incredibly well He's like, okay, interesting, he wasn't ranting. I mean, 254 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan was wrapped out time to get the woke 255 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: mop and he just went okay, Like he didn't go yeah, Joe, yeah, 256 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like, which which you would 257 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: do on Twitter when I talked to him and he 258 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: goes in and out. But I do over the many years, 259 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: he's very reasonable to talk to. He's not the character 260 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: he plays on TV, right, you know, I think it's 261 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. There's a little bit of that in him, 262 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We've had some beefs over 263 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: the years, but I never feel like they're crazy beefs. 264 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: They're like he didn't like something and he said so. 265 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: He's very forthright in that regard. But he doesn't play 266 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: these juvenile games that he does on Twitter, right, you know, 267 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: the dunking, the ridiculous dunking, stupid jokes and stuff, and 268 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: some of it are fun. Some of it's funny, by 269 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: the way, I like a lot of what he does 270 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: on on Twitter, but a lot of it's really kind 271 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: of yuck, kind of cruel and mean, and so he's 272 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: not like that. So that's one thing I wanted people. 273 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: It was interesting for people to see. He's the one 274 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: that's being like interesting, good idea, you know, that kind 275 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: of thing. And I think some of them sucking up 276 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: to them was kind of funny, fun you know, he 277 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: gets sucked up to all day long and twice on Sunday. 278 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: But I thought that was interesting. I thought some of 279 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: the ideas for the CEO of Twitter or funny weird, 280 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: like his one guy from Uber who I know pretty 281 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: well what Steve Jervison suggested him. I mean, this guy 282 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: got sucked up into some really unpleasant stuff in Twitter. 283 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's not a good idea, although 284 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: very smart guy. So it was interesting to watch people, 285 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: you know, especially Jack Dorsey, who was sort of this 286 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: open wound kind of person and that that was but 287 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: he's like that. If you know him and spend any 288 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: time with him, he is an open wound. You know. 289 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, dear, humanity is going to be dashed 290 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: if Twitter doesn't exist. That was the thing. And they 291 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: do that all the time. Whenever anybody says, you know, 292 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: it's for the good of humanity in the Internet industry, 293 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm always like and ding ding, and he means he 294 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: means it. He actually means it. He's he's very earnest 295 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: and you got that sense from him. Yeah, his power, 296 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: his feeling of powerlessness, which is I think bullshit, because 297 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: he has a lot of power. Even know he doesn't 298 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: have the controlling stock. He's jacked doors, he created it. 299 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: He could have been public about it. He just is 300 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: loath to be like Elana, who is at least gets 301 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: out there and throws a punch. You know, can you 302 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: explain to our listeners, but also mostly to me this 303 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: Republican tech anti trust vote. Republicans had decided they wanted 304 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: to break up big tech, but now they're sort of 305 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: now they maybe don't want to break up big tech. Well, 306 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: I said, I've heard. I mean, I think Kevin McCarthy 307 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: has made it. He went out there and he's from Californian. 308 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: It's like, you go with us and we'll make sure 309 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: you're safe. I think that's it seems to have done 310 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: from many reports allegedly. But I'm please. I mean, this 311 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: guy is at the bottom of the barrel and then below. 312 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: That's my take. What's under the bottom of the barrel. 313 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: That's right. So here's the deal. They don't like this 314 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: anti trust bill. There's some issues with it. I I 315 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: understand their their objections, but this is how legislation goes. 316 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: This is Amy Klovi Shark Grassley bill. And so they 317 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: managed to torpedo the other one, the journalism bill that 318 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,239 Speaker 1: Senator Klobachar had by ted Cruz that Eternal showed um 319 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: adding on some dumb censorship thing. And so the issue 320 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: is they all feel understand the power at tech. One 321 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: group is cynically, I think, saying oh, censorship when it's 322 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: not really the big issue. It's power really, and the 323 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: other one is probably going a little too far right. Ultimately, 324 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: innovation takes care of many of these things and competition. 325 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: But I do think this industry has never had any 326 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: regulation attached to it, and every other industry that this 327 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: size and power does and this is the most powerful 328 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: and doesn't have any And so I think, you know, 329 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: they want to. I think they want to sort of 330 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: preserve all things, and they'll do what they want. Trump 331 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: was actually quite a you know, he attacked Bezos quite 332 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: a bit. He attacked a bunch of companies at the 333 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: same time. Because he loves power, he wants to be 334 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: near them, and he loves wealth, and so he wants 335 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: to be near them. So it's a mixed bag for 336 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people. I think, you know, at some 337 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: point there will be a privacy bill past a national 338 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: privacy bill. Uh an anti trust needs to be up dated. 339 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: No question is just going to be a long slug. 340 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: And let me just say Center Cloba Chars tried her best, 341 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: and they're spending nineties some million dollars saying that she 342 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: broke is trying to break the Internet, which is just untrue. 343 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the idea of people in Congress understanding technology 344 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: she does, that's not true. She does, for sure, and 345 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: she understands journalism. I think a lot of people do. 346 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: I think you just saw that dumb hearing with Mark 347 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: Zuckerberg and some of the like, especially and I'm not 348 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: trying to be agist, but old guys don't understand it. 349 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: What is this email? You know, that kind of thing 350 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: that was what it looked like. I think a lot 351 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: of people in the Hill get it. It's you know, 352 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: it's a business. They don't listen. Nobody listen. I don't 353 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: think Congress can fly a plane and they understand how 354 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: to regulate the that industry. You know, they don't understand finance. 355 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: They know how to figure it out. That's what they're 356 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: there for, is figuring it out. And so this idea 357 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: that they're not tech savvy, it's kind of it's it's 358 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of a canard. They can they can write. 359 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: It's it's about advertising. You know about advertising kids, You 360 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: certainly do. And so that's the kind of thing. I 361 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: don't think they have to be experts in Technology's what 362 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: tech always brings out. You don't get what we do, right, 363 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: I get what you do. It's capitalism after all, right, 364 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty much what's going on here. Do 365 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: you think ultimately like the metaverse? They put so much 366 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: money into that. I mean this is meta, right, yeah, 367 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: meta and the metaverse? Yea. Zuckerbroobs put so much money 368 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: into that. I mean, where do you see this all? 369 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: Sort of? I think he's wasting his money right now. Um, 370 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: And I think his business right now is under siege. Obviously, 371 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: Facebook's stock is down a lot. They're not really a 372 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: very big tech company right now compared to the others. 373 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: I think they He's bored with his main business, just 374 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: the way the Google founders became bored with search even 375 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: though it paid for everything and wandered off into all 376 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: kinds of weirdnesses. I think this is what he's hoping 377 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: will be the next big thing, and I think he's 378 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: I think he's wrong. Doesn't mean I'm right, but I 379 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: think that that the the technology is not there, the 380 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: equipment is not there. I don't think the interest is there. 381 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: I do think where Apple is going around are, which 382 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: is augmented reality, is very interesting. And I do think 383 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: we'll all have glass as that will tell us. You know, 384 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: it's just it's just a different form factor. If you 385 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: view the Apple the headphones, the Max, the AirPod Max 386 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: or the AirPods, think of those with a camera in them. 387 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: That'll be interesting, right, Yeah, it will be. They're going 388 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: to have a camera in there. That's so obvious, you know, 389 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: the way they're building these things. And then what and 390 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: then what and then what? And so I think there 391 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: will be a lot of are There will be certainly 392 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: VR for certain things, watching entertainment, porn, all kinds of stuff. 393 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: Makes sense. But I think them I don't think Facebook 394 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: is the most creative companies, and when they wander into creativity, 395 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: it's really a problem because they're not creative. Yeah, I 396 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: think that's right. Thank you so much for joining us. 397 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: This was super interesting. Yeah, thank you so much. Max 398 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: Rose is former congressman is running to represent New York's 399 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: eleventh congressional district. Welcome to Fast Politics, Max Rose, what's 400 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: calling on everybody? I just said to you before we 401 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: started recording that we're just gonna the shed. I think 402 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: we have to talk first about this fucking redistricting in 403 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: New York. Come on, man, But look, look, the redistrict 404 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: teams irrelevant. We're gonna win this district. I've won this 405 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: district before. I'm not worried about that, buddy. But I 406 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: do think you'll find it very interesting what I just 407 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: came from doing. I just came from doing a press 408 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: conference where we rolled out a no lying pledge. Now, 409 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: this seems like something that would actually be rolled out 410 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: in my my son's daycare center, a commitment to not lying. 411 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: We put it out there that requesting Nicole Mallley Tackers, 412 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: my Republican opponent in this race, that she joined us 413 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: and signing this pledge whereby if any independent fact checker 414 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: from media to whoever else it might be, declares that 415 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: we have in fact lied, then they will have to 416 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: contribute two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to a campaign 417 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: that addresses the addiction crisis. Excuse me, it's actually a million. 418 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: And if a superPAC comes in and an independent fact 419 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: checker deems that the super pac is lying on one 420 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: of the candidates behalf, then that candidate has to do 421 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty dollars a day to a nonprofit 422 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: that addresses the addiction crisis until the superPAC ad is 423 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: taken down. Now, I'm interested and keen to see whether 424 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: or not my opponents signs onto this. But our politics 425 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: has just gotten disgusting. The things that you know, the 426 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: Republican Party is seeking to say about Democrats. And there's 427 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: been moments where the Democratic Party has said crazy things 428 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: about the Republican Party. There's a lot that we can 429 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: say about them that is not a lie that we've 430 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: got to elevate. But our politics is just completely ripping 431 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: apart this country. Um, it's leading to violence, it's leading 432 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: to division, and I thought that this UH could be 433 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: one small effort towards addressing them. Let's talk about what 434 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: is going on in Congress right now. You are, you 435 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: have been a member of Congress. You are out of 436 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: Congress right now running a and for your seat. You're 437 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: watching Congress from afar. Talk to me about what you're 438 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: seeing there and what you are, you know, what you're 439 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: pleased with, what you's freaking you out. I think that 440 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: there have been a string of really tremendous legislative wins, 441 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: many of them, the vast majority of them actually bipartisan, 442 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: from the Infrastructure Act to an actual successful piece of 443 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: gun violence prevention legislation, to the Chips Act, which is 444 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: gonna dramatically reinforce America's software based and chip based manufacturing 445 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: prowess too. Really an unprecedented bill to address the affordability 446 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: crisis in the United States of America and the threat 447 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: and the reality of climate change climate chaos was crazy 448 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: though to think. And then I do want to get 449 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: to the issue of jobs. Imagine if Kevin McCarthy had 450 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: been the speaker, not one of those pieces of legislation 451 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: would have even hit the floor of the United States 452 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: House of Representative. He would have undertaken a completely obstructionist 453 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: form of congressional leadership with the sole intent of trying 454 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: to deny the Biden administration any type of legislative win. 455 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: This guy is so far to the right of Mitch McConnell, 456 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: as is the vast majority of his caucus, which completely 457 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: bends to his every whim is quite scary when you 458 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: think about it. They are showing us. He is showing 459 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: us who they are, where their party stands, what they want, 460 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: and they want two things, and they believe them to 461 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: be interconnected. One is that they want the American people 462 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: to be absolutely miserable. They do not want to do anything, 463 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: nor do they want to present any legitimate plan that 464 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: is tied to their own advancement. But the reason why 465 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: they want that is because they believe it's sincerely to 466 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: their electoral gain. That this is unfolding right before our eyes. No, 467 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: there's no need for any innu end though, there's no 468 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: need for any subtlety. There's no need for any guesswork. 469 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: We know what three would look like. You merely have 470 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: to look to it all the things that they voted 471 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: against in then you move on to the issue of DABS, 472 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: and my opponent is perfectly emblematic of where they stand. 473 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: When the Dabbs decision hit, the leadership of the extremist 474 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: National Republican Party, for the most part, was saying, well, Look, 475 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: this is a this is a court's issue, right, This 476 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: is a this is not something that the federal government 477 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: should talk about. This is a a court's issue. And 478 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: then you saw immediately the trigger states come into play, 479 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: women's lives on the line, health on the line, freedom 480 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: on the line, and they vote against protecting the very 481 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: basics of that freedom which had been enshrined in precedent 482 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: for over a half of over a half century. But 483 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: then Graham drops the abortion ban, and suddenly it becomes 484 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: a legislative issue, and they duck and they hide and 485 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: they cower, yet another indication of where they will stay 486 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: and should they actually not forbid have power. There's no 487 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: one who was more upset about Dobbs than me. I mean, 488 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: I've written, like I went back and looked, I've written 489 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: like fifteen pieces of bad Dobs. I mean, I have 490 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: been on the Dobbs wagon. But do you really think 491 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: that McCarthy would be the speaker of Republicans take the House? 492 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: Because I don't, Well, look, I'm not gonna it's difficult 493 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: to get myself in the mindset of predicting what the 494 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: extremist wing of an extremist national party would be doing 495 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: and may I add when I talk about their extremism, 496 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: that's not illustrative of any extremism of your average, you know, 497 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: Republican that you find in the community. Now, this is 498 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: the extremism of their leadership. So I can't get myself 499 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: in their mind. I think Kevin McCarthy, if I would 500 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: have bet, I think that that that he would lock 501 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: it up. That is, unless Donald Trump said he wanted 502 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: to be speaker, and they'll do whatever Donald Trump says, 503 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: right or Donald Trump says he wants Jim Jordan to 504 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: be speaker. I mean, this is the thing that I 505 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: feel like we keep doing as normal people in the world, 506 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: is that we keep thinking that like Republicans wild just 507 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: do something normal in a normal way, like normal people do. 508 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: All evidence since two thousand and fifteen has shown us 509 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: that Republicans will do whatever. Is Really the craziest thing, 510 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: under no circumstances is elevating Kevin McCarthy to the Speaker 511 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: of the House normal or saying I don't care what 512 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: he was, Let's talk about what he is right now 513 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: and what he is plain and simple is two things. 514 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if this doesn't necessarily make him insane, 515 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: This is just a statement of fact. One. He is 516 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: willing to do and say anything that Donald Trump says 517 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: to include a democracy, and who's willing to do and 518 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: say anything that results in in in the Republicans winning, 519 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: to include lying, which is why I made that pledge 520 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: to there put that pledge out today. So I don't 521 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: think that's the same choice. There's probably things they could 522 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: do that are even more insane, But no, man, that's 523 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: not that's not the SAE. I just feel like they 524 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: continue to make themselves hostages to Donald Trump. Yeah. Look, 525 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: I think that what we have seen from Donald Trump, 526 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: and just let let's just take from onwards, is a 527 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: series of highly erratic behavior that doesn't put the country first, 528 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: whether that is waging war on our democracy and elections, 529 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: on the constitutional process, or that that's taking classified materials 530 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: back to moral Lago so he can show it to 531 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: his country club buddies over and over and over again. 532 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: Though it's him first, not the country first. And and 533 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: that just wasn't the attitude or the mindset that I 534 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: was taught in the military. You know, when I was 535 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: in basically training, you were taught army values, and at 536 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: the top of them was was selflessness. It was putting 537 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: the country first, was protecting and upholding the Constitution. I 538 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: just don't see that from him. Now. What I refuse, though, 539 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: to allow, or to stand by as the Democratic Party does, 540 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: is we cannot allow for that critique, which I think 541 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: is a statement of reality, to then bleed into an 542 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: indictment of the millions and millions of people who voted 543 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. Many many of them I think are 544 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: a very good, decent patriots. I'm not gonna get into 545 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: that language. And I think it's wrong when you know, 546 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: you see folks all the way at the President Biden 547 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, an indictment of mega Republicans. I 548 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: don't want the conversation to go in that direction, right 549 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: all right. I mean, I understand that you're running for 550 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: an R plus whatever seed, and I get that that's 551 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: the I understand that clearly there's a lot of bad 552 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: behavior happening on the side of the Republicans. The nuances 553 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: of whether or not. I mean, I do think there 554 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: are people who voted for Trump who are not MAGA, 555 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: who are just people who vote for an R. I 556 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: think that it's smart of Biden to try to separate 557 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: those groups. I don't think that he's trying to throw 558 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: all Republicans out with the bath Order. I think he's 559 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: trying to make a differentiation between people who want lower 560 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: taxes and people who want to overthrow the government. And 561 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: I think that that is a worthy distinction to make. 562 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: The worthy distinction to make is addressing the Trumps agenda 563 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: and addressing particularly more recent Trump is record that's worth. 564 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: But I refuse to give up on the millions upon 565 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: millions of people who quite frankly, where Obama supporters than 566 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: Trump supporters, or maybe they voted for the first time 567 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, and they did so because, quite frankly, 568 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: they had been ripped off by an economy that had 569 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: completely destroyed the middle class and the working class, where 570 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: you see titans of finance paying lower tax rates than 571 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: people who are working, whether it's in a factory or 572 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: driving a truck or all the like. People who hate 573 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: the idea that Democrats and Republicans are both taking corporate 574 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: pac money, and so they see someone saying, oh, we're 575 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: going to drain the swamp. Now where my sympathy lies, though, 576 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: is that none of that happened right now, and so 577 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: we have got to execute a narrative build a narrative, 578 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: build an argument that rightfully says because it's the truth. 579 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: It's the damn truth that the things that they spoke 580 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: about to never happened, that it was a lie that 581 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: they were hoodwings. That's what I'd like to see. I 582 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: don't think Biden's not saying that. I mean, again, certainly 583 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: that message and the message that labor is the way 584 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: to lift the working man up so that he can 585 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: negotiate and get better pay. I mean, I think that's 586 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: pretty obvious. I don't see Democrats running on that message. 587 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: I think that's a real problem. And look there, you know, 588 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: one of the things that Donald Trump did very well 589 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: was he said to people, I will do for you, 590 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: I will represent you, I will fight for you. Of 591 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: course they didn't do any of that, and he had 592 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: no interest in ever doing that, but messaging wise, it 593 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: was a very persuasive message to voters, and um, I 594 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: do I would love to see Democrats doing more of that. 595 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: But the center here is labor. Without a doubt, the 596 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: center is labor. But if you think, I mean, come on, man, 597 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: I've known you for a little bit. Now you have 598 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: New York City street smarts. If you think that the 599 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: right pathway to winning over people's hearts and minds is 600 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: by telling them that they're the enemy or telling them 601 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: that they're stupid. I mean, come on, it's besides the 602 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: fact that it's politically incompetent and idiotic, and it's also immoved. 603 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: So I'm like, what the hell are we thinking talking 604 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: like this? It just doesn't make any sense to me. 605 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: You know why? It is that the TRUMPUS agenda is 606 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: enough for us to have a very vociferous commentary on 607 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: not on the people who who support them. Okay, just 608 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: explain to me a little bit about what your race looks. 609 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: Isn't your district a little bit different? Now, it's a 610 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: little different, but for for all intents and purposes, it's 611 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: about the same in the end, And this is one of, 612 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: if not the only, urban swing districts. What this race 613 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: is going to be about is classic on the ground, 614 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: organizing door to door to door. There's gonna be a 615 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: lot of energy that poculates on the ground before prognosticators 616 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: noted it. How do I know that because that's exactly 617 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: what we experienced in Look, let's let's flash back to 618 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: right when I first declared in seventeen in the district 619 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump had won by more than the state 620 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: of Texas. I was swing left. Came out with the 621 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: top seventy five list of of pickup opportunities for the Democrats. 622 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't on it. It wasn't on it. I was 623 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: counted out every step of the way. But what we 624 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: did is we ignored that noise of you know, these 625 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: cook report journalists or Nate Silver who sits in his pajamas. 626 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: Let's criticized pajamas. You're fine criticizing Nate, but the pajamas 627 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: is a bridge too far. But you know what what 628 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: we did is we ignored that noise and we went 629 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: on the ground, lawn size, street side door knocking, knocked 630 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: over a million dollars, and we're gonna knock well over 631 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: that this time around about the fact that we can 632 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: have a better politics in this country. We can have 633 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: a better America, a better city. Talking about my own 634 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: service background, look, I nearly lost my life in Afghanistan, 635 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: and more importantly than any sacrifice that I ever made, 636 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: that sacrifice paled in comparison, utterly pale to the sacrifice 637 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: I saw other people make. And they did that because 638 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: they stood for what this country's potential is and I 639 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: think that we when when we take that sacrifice and 640 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: then we turn around and spread lies about elections, When 641 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: we turn that around and say that I'd rather do 642 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: anything to try to win an election, to include lying 643 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: about my opponent ripping this country apart, taking away the 644 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: freedoms of millions of women. That spits on the sacrifice 645 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: of so many of the people who have done everything 646 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: they could to build a better country, to build the America. 647 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: They know it's possible. That's what my race is about. 648 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: That's what people on the ground. No, no, it's about. 649 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: And I don't mind the fact. In fact, I kind 650 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: of savor the notion that some people are doubting our 651 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: prospects because we'll be under the radar and then on 652 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: election day we'll have the last laugh and more. And 653 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: and what what would we do is we actually to 654 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: actually put in the work. All right, Thank you, Max Hey, 655 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: it's good having you too, and I look forward to 656 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: seeing you soon. Monica Trannelle is running to represent Montana's 657 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: second district in Congress. Welcome to Fast Politics, Monica tre Now, 658 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: so you are running for Congress in Montana's newly created 659 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: second congressional district. So because it's a newly created district, 660 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: first you have to explained to us what that means 661 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: and what it looks like. So Montana is the first 662 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: state to ever lose a seat and then get back. 663 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: So we had two professional seats through nineteen ninety and 664 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: in the US we lost a seat because of a 665 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: population decline. And then in the census, the population of 666 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: Montana was over a million, and so we were allocated 667 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: a second congressional seat through the census redistricting reallocation process 668 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: since we have been the fastest growing region in the 669 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: country in western Montana. So this new second seat, which 670 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: is actually mt O one, was created through the census. 671 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: It's sixteen counties and two tribal nations of Blackfeet and 672 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: Sailushkoutni travel Nations are also part of this new district. 673 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: Um it's in western Montana and it lies mostly between 674 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: Glacier and Yellowstone National Park, So it goes from Canada 675 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: down to Yellowstone National Park, just to give you a 676 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: sense of where it is. So it's huge, and is 677 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: it a gerrymander district. I don't know how you gerrymander 678 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: with only two districts but explained to us what how 679 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: it was created and was it created to kind of 680 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: disadvantage democrats or not. So Montana has a nonpartisan redistricting commission, 681 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: and so you know, the redistricting commission went through the process, 682 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: went through the entire process, looked at the population and 683 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: tried to make it a contiguous population. We have, you know, 684 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: tried to make the tribal nations sort of roughly fairly 685 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: represented as well as rural and populations. So it contains 686 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: the two biggest university towns in Montana, the University of 687 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: Montana Missoula, which is the Grizzlies, and the Montana State 688 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: Bozeman the Bobcats. So we have the brawl of the 689 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: wild in this district. Like I said, it's the fastest 690 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: growing area in the country. We don't register by party here, 691 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: so the new voters who have come to Montana in 692 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: the last two to four years, and we had a 693 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: big explosion through COVID, there are a lot of unknowns 694 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: about what this district looks like. John Tester would have 695 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: won this district by ten points in his election and 696 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: Steve Bullock in the governor race, well, so he was 697 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: our governor. He was our outgoing governor. In he ran 698 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: for Senate against Steve Banes, and he would have won 699 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: this district had there been a third party candidate. So 700 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: it is competitive. And I ran in twenty for our 701 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: utility commission in seven of the sixteen counties that make 702 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: up this district. And I got forty eight percent of 703 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: the vote for a UM utility commission race in a 704 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: year where no Democrat won, and I was the highest 705 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: performing Democrat by vote share in the state of Montana 706 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: that year. And you are not running against any Republican. 707 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: You are running against a very special Republican. He explained 708 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: to us a little bit about your opponent. So the 709 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: makeup of this race is three candidates. We have John 710 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: Lam a Libertarian, and Ryan Zinky, who is the Republican nominee. 711 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: So the primary shows how disliked Ryan Zinky is. He 712 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: has not lived in Montana for a long time. He 713 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: lives in Santa Barbara. That's his primary home, that's where 714 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: he pays taxes, and that's where he looks like he's from. 715 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: There's that out of the primary. I came out of 716 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: the Democratic side in a competitive primary where I was 717 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: outspent and out fund raised by with sixty of the vote. 718 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: Ryan Zinky came out of the Republican primary, which was 719 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,959 Speaker 1: hotly contested, with just about forty of the vote. So 720 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: sixty percent of Republicans do not like Ryan Zinky. We 721 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: have a poll. We just did it. I'm happy to 722 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: share it with you. His unfavorables are high and they 723 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: are locked in. People do not like Ryan Zinky. Um, 724 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: and that's what we're I am shocked. I am shocked 725 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: because he did I mean, he did this thing which 726 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: Sarah Palin did too, which was he left his congressional 727 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: seat to theoretically run the Department of Interior. Yeah and so, 728 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: and he just embarrassed Montana. He made a fool of himself. 729 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: And you know, he did these caricature things like, you know, 730 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: putting the reel of his fly rod on backwards and 731 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: riding a horse to work, which was just absolutely a joke. 732 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up horseback riding. I grew up 733 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: on a ranch in eastern Montana with my nine siblings. 734 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: We came home from church on Sundays and went horseback riding. 735 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: That's what we did. And for him to make a 736 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: caricature of Montana is a joke. I mean, we have 737 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: a proud history of really strong progressive thinkers, independent thinkers 738 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: from Antana. Mike Mansfield was the longest serving majority leader 739 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: in our history. Um Lee Metcalf. Those two were instrumental 740 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: in the passage of the Civil Rights Act and the 741 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: Voting Rights Act. Mike Mansfield put them directly on the 742 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: Senate floor for action. Lee Metcalf was a parliamentarian who 743 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: oversaw the debate for seventy five days of the Civil 744 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 1: Rights Act. We have an awesome tradition of progressive thinkers 745 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: in Montana. And Ryan Zinky is a joke and he's 746 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: an embarrassment. There is no place for him in this state. 747 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at US investigation finds a former Interior 748 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: Secretary Ryan Zinky misused position to advance the development in 749 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: his Montana hometown and failed to disclose his involvement when 750 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: questioned by ethics officials. Right, that's from that's a February 751 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: Inspector General report. Right, And in August there was a 752 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: second one that came out, right, And there's also Trump 753 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: Intier Secretary cross Lines in Land dealing with Aliburton. Yeah, 754 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: Watchdog finds that's another one. Here's a guide to eighteen 755 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: federal investigations going into Ryan's Zinki. So, I mean, it's 756 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: a pretty amazing guy to run against right, censorship and 757 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: climate change report, all of those things are terrible, right, 758 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: But here's very visceral. He took his after he was 759 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: fired for lying and for ethics, violent relations and the 760 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: Trump administration, which, right, by the way, is there's no 761 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 1: small feat. I mean, I don't even know. Yeah, it's 762 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: almost impossible to get fired for athletics violations when ethics 763 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: is not something you're interested in. Yeah. So he's flying around, 764 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: he's doing fundraisers in Florida. He's using our tax dollars 765 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: to fly to Florida and inn have added and all 766 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: over the place, using an utter of dollars. But here's this, 767 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: this is something that to me, he after he got 768 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: fired for ethics violations and the Trump administration, he continued 769 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: to use his d o I identification and was caught 770 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: with it at the airport six months after he quit, 771 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: and then he had to turn in his identification to 772 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: his lawyer. So I mean that to me is just this. 773 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: He has no moral compass at all. He will do 774 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: anything for money, anything. How do you win in Montana's 775 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: first district. It's retail politics. It is winning the way 776 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: John Tester wins, the way branch whites are wins. You 777 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: show up, you talk to people. I was in a 778 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: parade in Dylan, Montana, which is Beaverhead County, the size 779 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: of Connecticut, with a population of about nine hundred people, 780 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: hundred voters, and I was shaking people's hands in the 781 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: parade and I shook a guy's hand to had a 782 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: mega hat on, and he said, you got my vote. 783 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: Don't forget about us. You know. I got in Mineral County, 784 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: which is the county that borders Idaho. It's between Missoula 785 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: and Idaho. I was out there and they said, you're 786 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: the first Democrat who's come here maybe ever. I have 787 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: a sign in Rika, which they've said they've never had 788 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: a Democrat sign in that town before. Yeah, so I 789 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: think it's it's showing up. It's showing that you care. 790 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: I mean to me, I grew up in rural Montana. 791 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: I get it. I know it. I had as many 792 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: siblings as I did classmates when I was growing up, 793 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: and this is my home. It's what I know. And 794 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: so when I'm campaigning in rural areas and people say, 795 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, don't forget about us. I know what that means, 796 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: and I am totally convinced, and this election will prove 797 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: me out. But I think people in rural Montana and 798 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: rural America, they want somebody to be their champion. They 799 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: want some time to show up for them. And we 800 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: all want that, right Like, that's not different from our 801 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: urban areas. We all want them. The thing I think 802 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: a lot about, especially in rural communities is the hospital problem. 803 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: Right Like, there's a real hospital problem. I don't know 804 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: how far you have to drive to get to a hospital, 805 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 1: but I mean it's a real problem. And that's something 806 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: that I feel like that's way for Democrats to win 807 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: in rural areas. So as illustrated specifically in a couple 808 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: of instances where in places I visited, so Troy, Montana, 809 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: which is up in the very northwest corner and fun fact, 810 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: it's actually the lowest elevation in Montana, there is not 811 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: as a there's not a place as a woman where 812 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: you could get an annual check up, so which means 813 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 1: that you couldn't get a prescription for birth control pill. 814 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: You'd have to travel and you have to travel significant distances. Yeah, 815 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: so the other piece of that too. I mean you've 816 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: identified distance, but we have to tribal nations which have 817 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: in health services and so. And we also have, you know, 818 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:47,760 Speaker 1: our most significant minority population, our Native Americans, and once 819 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: they come from the tribal nation into other areas like 820 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,959 Speaker 1: their urban centers, they don't automatically have healthcare that follows them, 821 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: and so there are those issues as well, So healthcare 822 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: issues delivering it. In Montana, we have you know, I 823 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: think fifties seven and fifty nine, I don't know the 824 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: exact numbers, but something like that are critical access healthcare facilities. 825 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: So you know they they are large distances. Um. And 826 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: then I heard a story there was a motorcycle accident 827 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: out on one of our highways and it took it 828 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,879 Speaker 1: was over an hour before the first responders arrived. So 829 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: everybody being okay, but those you know, an hour is 830 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: the difference between life and death. I also think the 831 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: tribal nations. I just want to get back into this 832 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: because I spend a lot of time in New Mexico, 833 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: so they really have shown up and delivered states to 834 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: Democrats before. Yes, that population is a significant voting block 835 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,479 Speaker 1: and it's important that you know, we show up there 836 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: and I've certainly been working to do that. And I 837 00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: actually went to my early elementary education at St. Libray 838 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: on the Cheyenne Nation in eastern Montana, and so I 839 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: have some a perspective of life in you know, that world, 840 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: and I know Republicans have been trying to make it 841 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: harder for those people to vote in different ways identification laws, 842 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: especially because a lot of the Indigenous people don't have 843 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: those kind of identifications. Can you talk about that a 844 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, So we actually have some really great 845 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 1: voter protection laws which the legislature, our legislature meets every 846 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: two years. Legislature really walked back a lot of the 847 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: voter protections that we've had in place, and so they 848 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: were there were some significant voter suppression laws passed and 849 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: these those have been litigated and the Supreme Court of 850 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: Montana just last week issued a decision um rejecting those 851 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: laws as I'm constitutional. So right now, as we stand today, 852 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: we have good voter protection laws in place. Um, but 853 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: you know that's always subject to change and confusion as 854 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: a significant component of it too. So we you know, 855 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: there's on again off again, on again, off again. But 856 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: today for this election, right now we're able to do 857 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: same day voter registration UM and and the you know, 858 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: the voter options are still broadly protected in Montana. That's fantastic. 859 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: Is it Ryan choice voting in your state? No, it's not. 860 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: But we do have a third party Canada, a libertarian. 861 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 1: And so this we just did a poll. Like I said, 862 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: there races within two points. Were super excited about that 863 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: after getting my message out. Our poll shows that I'm 864 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: up by seven and where people know me and they 865 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 1: also know Ryan Zinkie, I'm up by twelve. So I 866 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, I grew up here. This is my home. 867 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: I spent my entire career here standing up to our 868 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: monopoly corporations and winning. I have ranch clients across the state. 869 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: This is the place that I've been in working for 870 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: I've been in Montana working for Montana's, delivering from Montana's 871 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: my entire professional career. I have nine siblings. Everywhere I go, 872 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: people say, oh, I know your sister, I played basketball 873 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: against your brother. You know I dated your brother or whatever. 874 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: You know. This is my two sides, the dated the brother. 875 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: This is my home, It's my only home. I don't 876 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: have another one. I'm not going into in Santa Barbara, right. Yeah, Monica, 877 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. This is great. Yeah, 878 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: thank you so much for everything you do. I love 879 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,439 Speaker 1: your podcast, love hearing everything you do, fun stuff. Thank 880 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: you for making time for me, Molly, John Fast, Jessie Cannon, 881 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: I heard Mr Trump sent a truth. Yes, I will 882 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: now read to you a truth. Is the truth? Or 883 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: is it a truth? Because there's many of them, and 884 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: there's many truths Tonald Trump as many truths to drop. 885 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: Is McConnell approving all of these trillions of dollars worth 886 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: of Democrats sponsored bills without even the slightest bit of 887 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 1: negotiation because he hates Donald J. Trump and he knows 888 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: I am strongly opposed to them. Or is he doing 889 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: it because he believes in the fake and destructive Green 890 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: New Deal, which, by the way, that's a blast from 891 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: the past, and is willing to take the country down 892 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: with him in any event. Either reason is unacceptable. He 893 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: has a capital letters death. Wisha. This is really weird. Wait, Jesse, 894 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 1: is that Mitch McConnell entering the zoom room. Molly, let 895 00:47:50,800 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: me tell you something. I'm curious outrage. I hardly. I'm 896 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm matter than a I'm matter than someone who finds 897 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 1: out their first cousin can actually like safely bear their 898 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: genetic load. I will tell you one thing. I'm so 899 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: I'm so livid with Donald Trump right now. I'm saying 900 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: these terrible racist things about my wife and claim and 901 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: I have a death wish. I'm so livid right now 902 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 1: that I'm absolutely gonna support him is the nominee of 903 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:25,520 Speaker 1: the Republican Party. I'm absolutely so angry. My masculinity has 904 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 1: been so deeply offended that I'll swear I will fight 905 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump until we are down on the mat rolling around. 906 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 1: And I I found it myself straightly aroused by the entire process. 907 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: I refused. What's fan besmirks the honor of my beautiful wife. 908 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: And except in so far as I will cower like 909 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: a like a frightened small mammal being chased across the 910 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: plains of the of the Jurassic era by some sort 911 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: of gigantic rep pile. But I find Rick Scott, it's 912 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: enough of a red pile in my life already to 913 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: complete these to ser I will look tolerate it, except 914 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: in so far as I completely will thank you Old Crow. 915 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 1: Certainly not Rick Wilson. He's a terrible human being who 916 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: marks my accent, who marks my action and my and 917 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: my manliness every day. It's definitely not goodbye. I'm only 918 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 1: Jessica call. That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. 919 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: Tune in every Monday, Wednesday and Friday to hear the 920 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: best minds in politics makes sense of all this chaos. 921 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed what you've heard, please send it to 922 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: a friend and keep the conversation going. And again, thanks 923 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: for listening.