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Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome back to another new episode of

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Speaker 1: You Need Therapy Podcast. My name is Cat. I am

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Speaker 1: the host here and welcome everybody, new, old, kind of new,

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Speaker 1: kind of old. Welcome everybody. I am so glad that

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Speaker 1: you specifically are here today because we have a treat

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Speaker 1: for you. Now, before we get into that, I just

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Speaker 1: want to remind everybody that, yeah, I am a therapist.

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Speaker 1: I'm a therapist who works in Nashville owns a private practice. However,

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Speaker 1: this podcast is not a replacement for a therapy. It's

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Speaker 1: more of a springboard. It's a place that you come

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Speaker 1: where you might hear conversations and you might start to think,

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Speaker 1: and it might encourage you to go experience your own

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Speaker 1: therapeutic process with a therapist. But this right here is

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Speaker 1: not that. But it can't help get you there. Now,

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Speaker 1: I just want to get to this because I have

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Speaker 1: literally really not being able to stop talking about this

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Speaker 1: conversation since it happened. I don't remember the last time

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Speaker 1: I've been so excited about putting content out, and I

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Speaker 1: usually I'm pretty excited about the content I put out

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Speaker 1: for real, and um my guest today is somebody who

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Speaker 1: I really have begun to look up to and now

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Speaker 1: look up to even more. And she's somebody you might

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Speaker 1: have seen me post about on Instagram because her content

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Speaker 1: is so good that she puts out there. Her name

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Speaker 1: is Kaisa and she is a personal trainer, if fitness educator,

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Speaker 1: and a social media influencer who's known for the way

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Speaker 1: she gets people moving. Um. Getting people moving is her

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Speaker 1: goal and her life's mission and I can't wait for

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Speaker 1: you guys to hear about why and how she does it.

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Speaker 1: She graduated from University of Washington and she was a

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Speaker 1: Injury Prevention. So she's super like educated and that's one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I love her. She's not just somebody

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Speaker 1: is really smart and she really knows what she's doing.

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Speaker 1: And her actual goal is to get people to move,

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Speaker 1: not to exercise, not to lose weight, not to get

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Speaker 1: fit or whatever that means. Her goal was to get

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Speaker 1: why behind what she does is so freaking amazing and

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait for you guys to hear her talk.

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Speaker 1: You'll hear how I discovered her. But I've been following

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Speaker 1: her for a couple of months now and I can't

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Speaker 1: get enough of one the badass workouts that she posts

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Speaker 1: because she's freaking incredible, and the honest and real and

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Speaker 1: true content she puts out. She was very vulnerable with

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Speaker 1: me in the best way in our conversation. And keep

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Speaker 1: I will forever be grateful for. She also has a

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Speaker 1: platform called Just Move, and we talked about it in

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Speaker 1: and the platform. She'll talk about it, but I just

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Speaker 1: then her Instagram is at Kaisa fit so k A

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Speaker 1: I s A F I T so to you, Kaisa,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being yourself. I know I told you

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Speaker 1: that like a million times but thank you for bringing yourself,

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Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time to have this conversation

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Speaker 1: because this is a conversation you're gonna want to listen

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Speaker 1: to way more than one time. And I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: because she is a smart human and she has somebody

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Speaker 1: So here is my conversation with Kaisa. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being here. Welcome, Welcome, Thank you. I'm so exciting. Usually

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Speaker 1: I know the people that I am interviewing on here today,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting to know our guest as you're getting to

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of your content on Instagram, and

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Speaker 1: So I would just like to start with your background, like,

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Speaker 1: well hello that U? Yeah, I think and definitely as

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Speaker 1: But the truth for me is that movement saved my

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Speaker 1: um did track and field in college. Never had any like,

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Speaker 1: What I wanted to do was i'me a social worker.

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Speaker 1: don't know specifics of that, Like I've obviously know that

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Speaker 1: only platform was Jillian Michaels on the Biggest Loue Sir.

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Speaker 1: That was that was what people knew about movement and

434
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Speaker 1: about fitness. And so from that very like small little beginning,

435
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I want the world to move, but

436
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,919
Speaker 1: I want the world to move because I want the

437
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Speaker 1: world to feel really empowered and confident in who they

438
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Speaker 1: are and grateful for what their body can do, not

439
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Speaker 1: feeling shame for what their body looks like. So I

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Speaker 1: really believe that if you have an experience with your

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Speaker 1: body in which your body, which is always an amazing thing,

442
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: will show up for you, will always impress, you will

443
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Speaker 1: be able to do all these things. If you start

444
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Speaker 1: having that experience and you start being so proud of

445
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: what your body does, you'll start to think less and

446
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 1: less about what it looks like. And don't get me wrong,

447
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: it happens every single day. I stand in the mirror

448
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: every single day. I can nitpick my body apart. But

449
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: the difference now is that I don't stand in that.

450
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Speaker 1: The difference is if something comes in let's just say, like,

451
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, my arms are huge. In two seconds, I'm like, yes, bitch,

452
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: and that's how you can do like ten pull ups.

453
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Speaker 1: So what are we talking about. The difference is how

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Speaker 1: plastic leaves me because we live in the world. We

455
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Speaker 1: live in a world where looks is everything. That's what sells.

456
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: So being able to have the tools to get rid

457
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Speaker 1: of that was something that was so important to me.

458
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Speaker 1: And then the thing that I wanted to help coach

459
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Speaker 1: people and you know, support people on yes, and so

460
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Speaker 1: grateful that you just said that because what you just said,

461
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: just so everybody is listening, that's not something she made

462
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: up and sounds nice. That's like actual psychological science that

463
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Speaker 1: she's saying in a way that makes sense to everybody.

464
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Speaker 1: Because loving your body does not mean you're going to

465
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Speaker 1: get out of the shower, look in the mirror and say,

466
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Speaker 1: oh my god, I look so good today. That is

467
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Speaker 1: not what that means. Because I think you and I

468
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Speaker 1: can both attest to the fact that we practice loving

469
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Speaker 1: our bodies every day and a lot of the times

470
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Speaker 1: that comes with these thoughts that we wish we didn't

471
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Speaker 1: have about them. Because I don't don't think that you

472
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Speaker 1: can just fully, and I want I would love to

473
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Speaker 1: hear you on this. I don't think you can just

474
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,719
Speaker 1: fully decided to change your mind and you can say, well, like,

475
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: I love the fact that I don't have a thigh gap,

476
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Speaker 1: and that's what it is promoted on every single like

477
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: health magazine and fitness magazine out there. I don't think

478
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: I can just flip a switch. Now. You might like that,

479
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: you might have your personal preference about what bodies look like,

480
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: but it's more about how I'm viewing that thing, which

481
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: is what you just said. And the more you can

482
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Speaker 1: have those experiences and then what you just said, yeah,

483
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Speaker 1: that's why I can do pull ups and push ups

484
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Speaker 1: and that's why I can do all of this badass ship.

485
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Speaker 1: The more you add that, you're literally changing neuropathways in

486
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Speaker 1: your brain that literally change how the way you feel

487
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Speaker 1: about your body. And when you change the way you

488
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Speaker 1: feel about your body, you see it differently, like actually

489
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Speaker 1: your eyeball see things differently. Yeah, And I think a

490
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Speaker 1: really quick distinction is that I am constantly reinforcing what

491
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Speaker 1: my body does for me, like what she does for

492
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Speaker 1: me every day, rather than what she looks like. And

493
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: for me, that's like that is a really big which

494
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense, especially for females, Like we are

495
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Speaker 1: summed up by what we look like. That's why I

496
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Speaker 1: have my quote like I am more than my body.

497
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Speaker 1: I am more than my body, and I say that

498
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Speaker 1: every day. And it's not that I don't love my body. Obviously,

499
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: she's a miracle, she's amazing. She wakes up every day

500
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Speaker 1: and that's a miracle. What she's not is what she

501
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Speaker 1: looks like. Like that is the least most important thing.

502
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Speaker 1: And it's not just I want to reiterate, I am

503
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Speaker 1: a physical person. So for me, I find a lot

504
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Speaker 1: of the empowerment about myself in what it can physically do.

505
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Speaker 1: But there are so many like there are so many

506
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Speaker 1: incredible women that are doing amazing things that doesn't just

507
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Speaker 1: have to be doing what they're doing in the gym,

508
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: that find that confidence in that, like, find the confidence

509
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Speaker 1: that makes you like, you know, like your brightest, happiest,

510
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Speaker 1: healthiest self, and then constantly remind yourself about that, whether

511
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Speaker 1: you're an amazing mother or you know, like you're a nerd,

512
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you find your space and your

513
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Speaker 1: confidence in, remind yourself about that, because it's what you're

514
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Speaker 1: doing in this world, it's what your body allows you

515
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Speaker 1: to do. It's not what your body like. Yeah, and

516
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 1: I'm when you said mother, I thought that, like, you know,

517
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Speaker 1: people going through transitions with their bodies of like giving

518
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Speaker 1: birth and then their lifestyle changes and maybe they're not

519
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: as active or active in the same way, and for

520
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: somebody to be able to see the changes in their

521
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Speaker 1: body and then say, but hey, I'm I'm more than

522
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: this because look at what I do for my kids,

523
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm raising a family, I'm doing this, I'm doing that.

524
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: That is really powerful and it seems simple, but it's

525
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Speaker 1: it's not. And you just saying like I'm more than

526
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Speaker 1: my body, I'm more than my body. I'm more than

527
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Speaker 1: my body. I will say I forget because I do

528
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: this all day every day that I forget how powerful

529
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: that actually is. And it's not simple, Like it is simple,

530
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: but it's not simple when you repeat to yourself those

531
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Speaker 1: things that actually changes the trajectory of your life. Which

532
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Speaker 1: I want to bring this up because this was this

533
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Speaker 1: is how I found out who you are. Is this

534
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Speaker 1: this video that I posted now twice on Instagram, I'll

535
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: probably posted again of you talking about self love and

536
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Speaker 1: The reason and I think that that video is so

537
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: important is because I think self care and self love,

538
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: like fitness and movement and strength, is portrayed in a

539
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: way that I don't like. I think self love is too.

540
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: And there's been this huge, huge, which I'm so grateful for,

541
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: but this push forward in the body positivity movement that's

542
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: been incredible, it's been amazing. At the same time, I

543
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: think that it's watered down to this this idea that

544
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: body positivity and positive body image is just this thing

545
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: where you do look in the mirror and you say,

546
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: I love you so much. Uh, you look at your

547
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: in the mirror and you say, I love my thighs,

548
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: I love this, I love this, but my body, I

549
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: love my stomach, I love my eyes. I love and

550
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: I get in these like pushbacks with clients a lot

551
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: of times because it's not easy to do that. We're

552
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: gonna have a little argument right here, Okay, okay, No,

553
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: I love that. Actually not a fan of the body. Okay, okay,

554
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: then then that's good. Well, I don't know that we'll

555
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 1: get in an argument. I want to hear why. I

556
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: want to hear why, because it's still summing up that

557
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: women are what their body is, and like, why why

558
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: do we have to talk about the body? Body positivity

559
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: would literally be not talking about my body at all.

560
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: Leave my body alone. We'll talk about my body, because

561
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: that's what body positivity is. Standing in the mirror saying

562
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: I like this about my So all you're reinforcing is

563
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: that what you look like is important and you have

564
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: to love all that. Like that's to me, that's there's

565
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: nothing positive about that. I don't I don't. I don't

566
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: like the body. We just shouldn't have to talk about it.

567
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: We shouldn't have to talk about it. We shouldn't be

568
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: defined by what we look like. Body neutrality is the goal.

569
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: The goal is is that my body. I'm not on

570
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: the roller coaster ride of where my body is at

571
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: in any given season. I had this whole conversation. I

572
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: think this is where the self care started, the self

573
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: love video, because last year was really fucking difficult. We

574
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: all went through a pandemic. It was very hard times,

575
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: very very hard times for everybody. Everybody experience it differently

576
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: for me personally, as I am on social media and

577
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: people know people looking at me as like you know

578
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: the definition of health or what it had to be.

579
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: I was going through my own roller coaster ride of

580
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: I didn't have any motivation to move, I was gaining weight,

581
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: I was unhealthy. When I don't move my you know,

582
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: mental health goes out the window. So I was going

583
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: through a very very difficult time sitting there telling me

584
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: to look in the mirror and just love my stomach.

585
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: What is that like? I had this whole thing about, Oh, yes, okay,

586
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: we're not gonna argue because that's my That's my point is.

587
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever look in the mirror and

588
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: say I love my stomach. One. I'm not interested in

589
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: doing that because my stomach looks different every single day, um,

590
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: regardless of month to month. And so that is the

591
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: energy that I would like to promote out there. And

592
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: I think what I see that gets mixed up and

593
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get more detailed with this and hopefully

594
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: I I can I can in the future. Is that

595
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: the body positivity movement and having having positive body image

596
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: are two different things, but they're getting tied together. Positive

597
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: body image is I think more along the lines of

598
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: body neutrality, where I might not like what my body

599
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: looks like, but also it doesn't matter, because what I'm

600
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: doing is I'm taking the worth aspect and the value

601
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: aspect away from my body and any part of my body,

602
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: any aesthetic thing. And I'm I'm understanding that worth is

603
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: something that you're I'm born with and it I don't

604
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: get to have more and I don't get to have less.

605
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: It just is that, and what I look like is

606
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: just that and we're moving on. That's what I believe

607
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: is having positive body image. When I say like, I'm

608
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: glad that there's this push towards body positively, I'm I'm

609
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: glad that people are starting to stop ripping people down,

610
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: and I'm glad people are are are attempting to allow

611
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: there to be more inclusivity when it comes to bodies.

612
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: But I think what I hear you, which is good

613
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: for me to hear too, is really we should take

614
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 1: that out and just stop talking about it, because if

615
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: we weren't talking about it, then it actually wouldn't be

616
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: an issue. The reason that we're talking about it is

617
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: because it is an issue. Yeah, And I mean on

618
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: the bigger level, you know, corporations now everybody is making

619
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: a ton of money on body positivity, and I'm like, again,

620
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: women are continuously summed up by what they look like.

621
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: Stop talking about what we look like. Start talking about

622
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: what we're doing. In this world. Women are doing incredible things.

623
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: Women run the damn world. Talk about what we're doing.

624
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: Stop talking about what we look like like. And I'm

625
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: not saying that men don't deal with these same issues.

626
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: They don't deal with them on this level. Like for

627
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: me right now, like I am a businesswoman. I love

628
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: what I do. I love movement. That's a piece of like,

629
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: I love all these things. Nobody ever talks about that.

630
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: Nobody ever talks about the things that I'm doing. The

631
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: thing that you want to talk about is the way

632
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: in which I look and it infuriates me in a

633
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: in a level that's like stop And this is where

634
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: it's like, I have so much passion. Stop talking about

635
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: what women look like like? Why? And in order to

636
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: do that, you have to stop talking about yourself based

637
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: on what you look like. In order to know what

638
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: that is and what you want and how you want

639
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: other people to treat you and have a dynamic and

640
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: a relationship with you, you have to start treating yourself

641
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: that way. So this is a learn This is something

642
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: that I am practicing every single day, every single day,

643
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: I could look in the mirror. Especially this is where

644
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: that the self love video came from. But I can

645
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: break myself down every single day. There are a million

646
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: things I can say I don't like about what I

647
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: look like. But my constant practice is reinforcing the things

648
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: that I am doing in this world, the things that

649
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: I do for myself and for others that I am

650
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: proud of, and then replacing that. So it's it's always

651
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: how fast can I take that negative self talk and

652
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: reinforce it with something that I'm really proud of, Not

653
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: reinforce it with like this fake but I love my stomach,

654
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: but I love my art. Not reinforce it with that.

655
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: Reinforce it with like you are a bad bitch, Kaisa, Okay,

656
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: you're getting the world to move, you're running a successful business,

657
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: you have really really good relationships dynamics with your friendships,

658
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: you support a lot of people, Like do all of

659
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: the things that that you're proud of. Reinforce it with that,

660
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: not what you look like, and then that's what you're

661
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna see. You're gonna look in the mirror and you're

662
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: gonna see all the things that you're doing to make

663
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: an impact, which rounds back to like why you even

664
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: got into the fitness industry in the first place. So

665
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: amen to everything you said. Thank you in the in

666
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: the way that like that's actually giving me stuff to

667
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: think about because I think I I agree with everything

668
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: you're saying, but I don't know that I practice it

669
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: mindfully all the time. And so to hear you have

670
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: such passion around that, which obviously I believe that that's

671
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: come from experiences you've had, Right, That's come from a

672
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: lot of experiences you've had, which's like, I'm sick of this.

673
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: So then talk to me about, like I want to

674
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: know where you are because that video was made, I

675
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: mean made a while ago. So talk to me about,

676
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: like where you are with self love and how you

677
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: would encourage a friend, not even a client, Like how

678
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: would you encourage a friend to walk into a space

679
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: of self love? Like what is self love to you?

680
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: And what does it look like in your daily life? Yeah,

681
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: so this is and honestly, I'm never I'm not gonna

682
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: say the moment that we filmed that video, I was

683
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: just like in a moment, So if you ever want

684
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 1: to go back, and really everybody needs to watch it,

685
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: But for me, that's it's what at the end, I

686
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: was like, self love is loving yourself, But for me,

687
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: it's not about loving yourself because you look a certain

688
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: way or you're you're trying to accept the way that

689
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: you look. It's about loving yourself through every season, through

690
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: the highs the lows. It's about being your best friend.

691
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: It's about being your own ride or die, and it's

692
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: about being really like encouraging to yourself when times are rough.

693
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: That for me, that was really where the whole thing

694
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: started was because it was a difficult year. I had

695
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people looking at me to like be this,

696
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, raw raw go doing. I couldn't even do

697
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: that for myself. And so I found, you know, in

698
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: my in the roller coaster ride going downhill and in

699
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: my you know, the my mental health is going out

700
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: the window and everything is happening. I had to remember,

701
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: like no, Kaisa, like one, what you look like doesn't

702
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: matter right now. Do the things that you need to

703
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: do to help you come act to yourself, which for

704
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: me is movement. I'm not saying that's that's everybody's number

705
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: one tool, but for me, it's movement. And then once

706
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: I start moving, then I can remember, like, who I

707
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: am not based on the things that I can physically

708
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: do when I am moving, but it helps me clear

709
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: my mind, It helps me connect me to myself, and

710
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: it helps remind me who i am, why I'm here

711
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: on this earth, what I'm trying to do. You know,

712
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: the things that I that get me out of bed

713
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: every morning and get me excited. It brings me back

714
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: to that. So what it reminded me was to be

715
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: really authentic about the struggle that I was going through

716
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: during that time and allow myself to tell people to

717
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: be okay being vulnera about it. Nobody wants to know

718
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: that the girl that is known for smiling doing crazy

719
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: shit is actually really really struggling right now. You know.

720
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: I didn't think anybody wanted to know that until I

721
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: was like, no, people, there's more people struggling. It's probably

722
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: matter to me. I would want to know that because

723
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: what that is saying, well, one, what you're saying is

724
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: like self love is you literally are saying self love

725
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: is loving yourself in every season, not just when it's

726
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: going well, because that's not fair. But I would want

727
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: to know that because and think again, social media is

728
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: a tricky thing, and that's a whole another issue when

729
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: it comes to sharing or over sharing or what to

730
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: put out there or how whatever. But I do want

731
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: to know that when you're struggling, because as a human,

732
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 1: I have my experience where I feel all my feelings inside.

733
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: I have all my thoughts inside. I have all my

734
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: bad days, all my good days inside of me. I

735
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: have all of it. But when I look at the world,

736
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm only seeing people's outsides. So as a and this

737
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm about to cry, But when

738
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: as a therapist and somebody who also is in not

739
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: too as the scale you are, but in Nashville and

740
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: my community a picture of loving yourself and self love

741
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: and acceptance and mental health. I also have really bad

742
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: days in the pandemic was a really shitty year for

743
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: me as well, especially when it comes to some of

744
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: that stuff that I specialize in it because in because

745
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: my body changed too, and my abilities changed too, and

746
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: my ability even move changed because of some of the

747
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: stuff I was just dealing with with anxiety and stuff.

748
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: And so I do want to know when you when

749
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 1: other people are that are the picture of whatever I'm

750
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: aiming to be, are struggling, because then I don't have

751
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: to compare my insides to just your outsides, or I'm

752
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: comparing and even outside to my insides. And that doesn't

753
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: mean you have to overshare and tell me everything. But

754
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: when you can have a bad day and when you

755
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: aren't perfect, then I can realize that, oh, doing well

756
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm I'm perfect. I had a conversation and

757
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: with a client who was talking about recovery, like recovery

758
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: from an eating disorder, and I am in recovery from

759
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: an eating disorder, and she knows this, and and she

760
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: was talking to me about what was she was going through,

761
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: and she wasn't really being honest with me, and I

762
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: was like, I just don't. I don't believe that you're

763
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: as okay with the world as in your buddie and

764
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: food as you're acting like. This is bizarre to me.

765
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: She finally broke down and she was like, well, I'm

766
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: afraid to tell you what I'm really feeling because I'm

767
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: afraid then that will mean I'm not in recovery. And

768
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: and I said, well, we need to talk about recovery

769
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: is because I'm in recovery for like eight years and

770
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: you better believe. I have days where I want to

771
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: run fifteen miles, and I have days where I don't

772
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: want to eat pizza because that scares me. And I

773
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: have days where I don't want to get out of

774
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: bed because I know if I get out of bed,

775
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: I have to put on this outfit and people are

776
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: going to look at me. And I have those days.

777
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: It's not about having those days. It's about what you

778
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: do with those days. But I think that's that's kind

779
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: of what I'm saying. It's like, we need you, like

780
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: we need you to share with us. And at the

781
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: same time, I'm sitting here feeling like I'm putting pressure

782
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: on people to like share their stuff. No, I don't.

783
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't feel that at all. But I think what

784
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: the I think the thing at this point in time

785
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: is also making sure that we are we're in the

786
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: business of wanting to help people like we we are

787
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: in business of wanting to help people, and when we

788
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: do that, it means also like giving people tools. And

789
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: so for me, this is why it always brings it

790
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: back to movement and I'm I'm my thing is just

791
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: move Obviously. I want to get Obviously, I want to

792
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: get the world to move I will also say I

793
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think that movement is the number one tool

794
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: for everybody. There are a bunch of different people come

795
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: into connecting to themselves through many different avenues. Whether whatever

796
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: it is that you want to do that helps you

797
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: clear out the noise and get connected to yourself. I

798
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: am one thousand percent here for it. But we do

799
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: need tools because when when things are really really hard

800
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: and we're trying to just have a positive relationship with ourselves,

801
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: we need those tools. You need the things that get

802
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: you back to who am I? You know? What am

803
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: I doing? How do I show up for myself? What

804
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: do I need in this time? Even being able to

805
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: like clear all the noise to like what do I

806
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: need during this time? Last year, for me it I

807
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: experienced a year very differently than a lot of people

808
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: because I have an online business, and you know, everybody

809
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: was at home and people wanted to move from home,

810
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: and I am eternally grateful for that, and that is

811
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: what I have always wanted to do. But it was

812
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: also such an odd time to experience a very very

813
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: stressful time in the world and then a stressful time

814
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: and work when that didn't compare to anybody else. It

815
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: was all these things and I had to have the

816
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: tools to say, how do you get back to yourself? Kaisa?

817
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: You move? You move, and when you're going through really

818
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: hard times, you don't like sit there and analyze what

819
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: you look like and then break yourself down based on that.

820
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: You just find the thing that brings you happiness, that

821
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: clears everything else out, and you do that thing because

822
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: that's what's going to help you out of that low season.

823
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: You'll have them. Yeah, well, and going off of that too.

824
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: I do want to make sure we have time to

825
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: talk about just move because I think what you're doing

826
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: is really cool, and you're right its movement is not

827
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: the only tool. And I think, no matter if it,

828
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: movement is one of your top tools or it's not,

829
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: this conversation is important because we're talking about a tool.

830
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: Insert movement with insert anything that you want. Their writing.

831
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't care what horseback writing, which also could be movement,

832
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: but it's there anything in there. Maybe you love to

833
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: bake like I don't care what it is like, have

834
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: a tool, maybe whatever it is. What we're talking about

835
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: is allowing yourself to have whatever it is you have

836
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: inside of your body, whatever thoughts and feelings about the

837
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: world and what's going on with you, and then a

838
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: way for you to make your life bigger than that feeling,

839
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 1: bigger than that feeling of sadness or fear or or

840
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. And so you have created a huge,

841
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: huge tool for people. You've done that, and you're changing

842
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: people's lives with it, and so I do want to

843
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: have you talk about it for a second for people

844
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: who do love movement or people that like might really

845
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: really really love it, but they don't know it yet

846
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: because they haven't tried it because it's scary, because fitness

847
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: is scary. It's really scary. No, totally, Yeah, Well, I

848
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: think the thing for me was obviously like what are

849
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: the tools that I love the most, and its movement,

850
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: and so that was a tool. Then when I learned

851
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: that I wanted to work with people, movement was a

852
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: tool that I got to work with people. But the

853
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: issue for me was, in some sense it was like

854
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: this ask backwards thing because the fitness industry then reinforced

855
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: the issues that I was trying to work people out of,

856
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: and so it was like this vicious cycle. So my

857
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: career originally started We'll start at the boot camp, and

858
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: then I decided, Okay, this is what I'm gonna do.

859
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: And when people would come to me, people come to

860
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: you because they want to change. When people want to move,

861
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: they want to move because they want to change the

862
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: way they look. And so right off the gate, young kaist,

863
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: it was like, all right, cool, we'll go train with

864
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: this trainer, Go train with this trainer, because that's not

865
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: what I do. I don't that's not what I believe in.

866
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I'm looking around and I

867
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: have no clients. I was like, all right, well, I

868
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: was like, okay, well, guess you gotta change something about yourself.

869
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: So what I realized was in that in that moment,

870
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: I was the parent and like I cannot, I have

871
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: to set up opportunities in which clients came to me

872
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: for whatever reason it was, and then I taught them

873
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: and I showed them through the experience that they got

874
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: to have with their body, that that's not really what

875
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: we're here for, and that like what you look like

876
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: really isn't ultimately the most important thing. So that is

877
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: kind of like how this whole sparklet was lit inside

878
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: of me, and I was working with a lot of

879
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: middle aged women Like that's why I ended up working

880
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: a lot with and the way in which their lives

881
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: were changing because of the way in which, like how

882
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: they felt about themselves when they could do these really

883
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: empowering things through movement. And it wasn't The thing is,

884
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't like they were doing anything crazy. It could

885
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: have been a push up was something that like was

886
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: life changing for somebody because she never thought that she

887
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: could do that, but that confidence and that connection that

888
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: she had and how empowered she felt, she took that

889
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: out into the real world and then her whole life change.

890
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: Because it's not about the doing the push up. It's

891
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: about thinking that you could never do a push up

892
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: and then working hard and committing to yourself and believing

893
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: in yourself and then doing something you didn't think you

894
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: could do absolutely and just feeling so empowered in who

895
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: you are. Like that's the thing, Like, we are truly

896
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: empowered in who we are as human beings, not by

897
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: what we look like, but by who we are, what

898
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: we can do, how we show up in the world

899
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: that can actions we have with others, how we impact others.

900
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: Those are the things that really feed you, not what

901
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: you look like that doesn't really feed you, that's not lasting.

902
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, that's where I

903
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: was like, I really want to bring healthy movement to

904
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: the world. I really want to help people get connected

905
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: with themselves use movement as a tool, not to change

906
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: what they look like, but so they can become more

907
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: empowered and confident in who they are as human beings.

908
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: And so it for me, like that was really always

909
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: a goal. It's been a long journey to get to

910
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: the point of finally releasing Just Move our platform released

911
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: this year. And the truth is, like I really believe

912
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: we are If the health and wellness industry really believed

913
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: in an individual's health and wellness, it would be just Move,

914
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: Like that's what I really believe, Like, that's that's who

915
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: we are, that's what we're doing. We are an inclusive

916
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: movement space. We are continuously redefining what it means to move.

917
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we have dance, we have we have we

918
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: have all of the traditional ways to move. We were

919
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: constantly trying to exp be in that because I think

920
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: a lot of people just write it off and say like, oh,

921
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: I didn't I don't enjoy working out, I didn't I

922
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: don't enjoy fitness. The human body is made to move.

923
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: You are literally born to move. You love to move.

924
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: You just haven't found a mode of movement, a type

925
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: of movement that speaks to you yet. And I am

926
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: here to show you that we have one for you,

927
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: you know, and as we expand um and that we

928
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: have really incredible trainers, trainers, you know, super diverse trainers.

929
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: And that was really really important to me as well.

930
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: Can you talk about the because I heard I heard

931
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: you don't know what video it was, maybe it was

932
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: address move video, or maybe it was something else you

933
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: were doing, but you were talking about the difference between

934
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: like you don't just have like beginner programs. You have

935
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: a program like that's called Start. I want you to

936
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: talk about that because I think one of my biggest

937
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: things that we don't have a lot of times I

938
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: want to get this in. But one of my biggest

939
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: things when I hear people that say I can't go

940
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: to that class, or I can't do that, or I

941
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: can't whatever because I'm not in shape, or I I

942
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: can't do that kind of whatever, which is boils my

943
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: blood for a whole list of reasons. But you've developed

944
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: programming in language and all of that that literally is

945
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: for that person. Probably yeah, no, exactly. So when I

946
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: when I was training in person coming in saying they

947
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: had never moved before, so they didn't know how to move.

948
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: So when you say squat like, they didn't know what

949
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: a squat was. They were either in pain or they

950
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: just didn't have the knowledge of how to move. And

951
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: I had never done before, didn't have the experience. So

952
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: the beginner level in the fitness world is actually to

953
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: advance for somebody who has never moved before or is

954
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: possibly in pain. So I created a level called Start.

955
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: If you have never moved before, if you moved maybe

956
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: a long time ago, and you don't really know how

957
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: to move, or you're in pain, Start is where you start.

958
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: Because we take movement and we make it really, really accessible.

959
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: You're still learning, you're learning how to do all the

960
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: fundamentals of movement, but in a really really fun way.

961
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: Because the issue for me is that the fitness industry,

962
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: if they create anything that is like that true beginner,

963
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: the way in which they talked down to human beings

964
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: is infuriating to me. Somebody who is just getting started

965
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: on their movement journey doesn't need to be taught down

966
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: to like, that's not that's so for me. Any time

967
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: I looked at like, what what is out there for individuals,

968
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: it didn't exist. So and I hate calling them levels

969
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: and I've got to figure out another language. But we

970
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: have start and then beginner than intermediate that advanced, so

971
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: you can work through the whole system. But you always

972
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: feel like you have a place that speaks to you.

973
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: So really, my thing was if you have never moved

974
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: before you looked into what we call the fitness world

975
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: and never thought something spoke to you. I wanted to

976
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: be the place that you felt home. I wanted to

977
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: be the place that you really felt like, Okay, this

978
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: is where I can begin my movement journey. I don't

979
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: care where you If you stay with us, amazing, If

980
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: you go anywhere else, great. I just want you to

981
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: feel really empowered and confident in movement and what your

982
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: body can do, and I want you to learn about it,

983
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: like as you are going through that process, which is

984
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: incredible that you've essentially taken a time and energy developed

985
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: something for every everybody. And I think that speaks to

986
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: the fact that like I believe in it, it it sounds

987
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: like you believe that every single person in the world.

988
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: Despite if you are like an Olympic flee or you

989
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: literally have never walked to walk a step in your life,

990
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: you deserve to have a space to enjoy movement because

991
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: movement offers so much to us. Absolutely, So I have

992
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: like twenty other things I was going to bring up,

993
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: but we helped time, which is fine. But I just

994
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: want to say I'm so grateful for this conversation to

995
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: be able to have because I think even now I'm

996
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: going to be left thinking about my own thoughts and

997
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: my own being and and stuff. But also because I

998
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: think this is going to help a lot of people

999
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: do the same thing. With that, I'm also grateful just

1000
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: for your platform in general, and I think you offer

1001
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: a lot to the world and I hope that in

1002
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: the future there are more people like you doing what

1003
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: you do. So can you tell us how people can

1004
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: find you, because people are going to want to find

1005
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: you after this conversation. You could find me on Instagram

1006
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: and Facebook, I think is the easiest. So kids of

1007
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: Fit k A I s a FIT And then the

1008
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: platform that we're working up that I'm reading right now

1009
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: is just moved, so that's as well. On Instagram and Facebook. Um,

1010
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: and if you find me on Instagram, Instagram is really

1011
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: like what I know. Facebook is too complicated for me.

1012
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: Messaged me Like I told I'm the one. Nobody else

1013
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: is running my Instagram. I'm the one running my Instagram.

1014
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: Messaged me definitely comment like I would love to come

1015
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: back on and have a more you know, like continue

1016
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: our conversation, just because I think a lot of times

1017
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: people don't allow me to like go in debt to

1018
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: where I want to go and have these So you're

1019
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: coming back. You're coming back because there's in I think

1020
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: what we did today is we touched a lot of things,

1021
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: but we could have talked about your freshman year of

1022
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: high school for forty five minutes. And so I think

1023
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to hear a lot

1024
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: of the parts of your story and the parts of

1025
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: what you believe, and then they're going to want more,

1026
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: just like I do. And I will say I am

1027
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: in this like you, and I am assuming this is true.

1028
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: But I attempt to surround myself, whether it be in

1029
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: my life or on social media, with like minded people.

1030
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: And at the same time, I feel really lonely a

1031
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: lot because what I either seeing as these people that

1032
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: I think are like minded actually aren't. It's one of

1033
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: those things, like you're talking about the body positivity movement

1034
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: has turned into like a money maker or something to

1035
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: help you write this like really great quote on Instagram,

1036
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: then people follow you. But is that really what you're

1037
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: trying to be? And so I do feel really lonely

1038
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: and a lot of that. So just personally, I'm grateful

1039
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: to have as many of these conversations as you are

1040
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: willing to have because it fills my soul and it

1041
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: helps actually accomplish what I'm trying to do myself. And

1042
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: what you guys don't know is right before I got

1043
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: I told you I was like, I don't really like

1044
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: to look at it. I love with you, so but

1045
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: look at you. But that's because you're not You're talking

1046
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: about things you care about. I really appreciate you. I

1047
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 1: definitely feel like this is the first of many conversations,

1048
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: so you know, definitely please keep me loop and if

1049
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: anybody has things that they want us to discuss next,

1050
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, so, And I will say to

1051
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: everybody if you heard something and you have a specific

1052
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: a question, email it to um Catherinet you need therapy

1053
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: podcast dot com. And it can either be we do

1054
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: a Wednesday Q and A where I answer emails. It

1055
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: can be something really simple like that, or if there's

1056
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: enough of the same stuff or even enough things, we'll

1057
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: just have you fully back on a on an episode.

1058
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: So thank you so much, thank you, thank you so

1059
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: much for having me, and also just for creating the

1060
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: space you know, for like true conversation