1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know from House Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: There's Charles w Chuck Barnett, and Jerry and that makes 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: this stuff you should Know. I was so gonna quote 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: the Red Hot Chilie Peppers, the band they apparently used 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: them at Guantanamo Bay to torture prisoners. Really yeah, that 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: surprises me. I know, usually that's like I've heard of 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: stories like that. Usually it's some kind of dark metal 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: or something like super Starling vocal band. Some might say abrasive, 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: some might I think it's very soothing to hear death metal. Supposedly, 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: there's a study out there, the head of ridiculously small 12 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: study population that found that it's calming has a calling 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: influence metal music does paid for by the Metal Association 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: of North America Scandinavia. Uh yeah, kind of surprised they 15 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: played the Chili Peppers since, uh, it's pretty easy on 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: the ears, isn't it. Well, one of the songs with 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: California Cation. The other later stuff isn't as good. I 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: could go a little crazy with that one. I'll talk. 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: What were you going to quote? I was gonna say, 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: give it away, Give it away now or something like that, 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: or fight like a Brave. I haven't heard that one. 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: That's early stuff you get to say, like under the 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Bridge downtown. Yeah, I ate a chili pepper. I actually 24 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: read his biography. I guess it was an autobiography, Anthony Keatis, 25 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: because I was he writing about himself. Yeah. I was 26 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: just going through a kick where I was reading music 27 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: autobiographies of for just rock star stories. Didn't you recommend 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: the more by the best? Which one was it? Uh? 29 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: There's one, um quintessential one. I can't remember what it's called, 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: the Quintessential Crew. Yeah, just look at I mean it's 31 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: that's not an autobiography, that's just a biography. Yeah, but 32 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: that one's really good. The Slash one is good and 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: the Keyest one is good. Man, he that guy. He 34 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: had troubles, oh yeah, just bad drug troubles and woman 35 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: troubles over and over and over. But he's good now. 36 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: Well good for him. Yeah, welcome back to the fray, 37 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: Anthony Keynes. That's what I say. So we're not talking 38 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: about the red hot chili peppers. We're talking about red 39 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: hot chili peppers, right, not the right We're talking about 40 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: chili peppers, depending on where you are in the world, 41 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: c h I l I peppers or c h I 42 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: L E peppers or just chilies. Yeah, you can say that. 43 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: I think a lot of chefs just call them chilies. Well, yeah, 44 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 1: because they're like, they don't waste words. No, they don't 45 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: say peppers. It's a couple of extra syllables. Yeah, exactly, No, chef, 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: give me some of those chilies. Uh. It is the 47 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: bell pepper and the celery stalk and the onion. It's 48 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: part of the trinity of I guess you would call 49 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: it nolange cooking. Sure, the bell pepper is a chili pepper. 50 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: It's just um, a non hot chili pepper, but it's 51 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: still the same thing. Um. And it turns out that 52 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: we get that terminology chili. It actually was used by 53 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: the Aztecs or the Triple Alliance and Mesoamerica, the Triple 54 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: Indy's the Triple Alliance prior to the arrival of Columbus. 55 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: And it was Columbus himself where we get the the 56 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: misnomer chili pepper, because Columbus can that guy get anything right. 57 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: So he comes across the chili pepper and decides that 58 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: it must be a relative of the black pepper, with 59 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: which he and the rest of Europe are already very familiar. 60 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: So he calls it the chili pepper because he hears 61 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: up in Mexico they call it chili's. It's what the 62 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: Triple Alliance calls it. So that's where it came from, 63 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: chili peppers. But it has no relation whatsoever to the 64 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: chili or the pepper. The black pepper um and it's 65 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: been around. It's actually one of the oldest domesticated crops 66 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: in the America's actually, yeah, it started out in South 67 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: America about six thousand years ago. I saw nine thousand, 68 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: let's stay between five and twelve. Uh. And they don't 69 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: know whether it was Bolivia or Brazil. There's a heated 70 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: debate in the pepper community on the country of origin, 71 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: but they do know that birds are the ones who 72 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: disperse them, and birds can't feel heat in their mouth. 73 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: They carry them around and propagate the seeds. And uh. 74 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: Then Columbus, of course brought them to Europe, and that's 75 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: something spread. That's why you can use hot sauce or 76 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: chili pepper spray or something like that on your bird 77 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: seed to deter squirrels. Yeah, because the birds are fine, 78 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: but the squirrels. And it says here the birds can't 79 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: digest PEPPERSI but nobody can really digest pepper seeds. If 80 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: I can whole, I totally can't know you can't. I 81 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: will show you right now. You can show me your stool. 82 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: Uh No, we can't digest them either because we don't 83 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: digest seeds that aren't chewed because they're covered in cellulose 84 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: and it just goes straight through to our poop. Exactly 85 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: same with corn. Yeah, because that is a seed. It is. 86 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad you finally said that somebody needed to say. 87 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the trendy facts. Don't you 88 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: think that corn is a seed? Yeah? Yeah, probably seems 89 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: like I saw that all over the internet. It's pretty 90 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: hot right now. Corn and poop. It's a hot topic. So, um, 91 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: I did a dump be dumb on that on hot topics. Man, 92 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: No corn, corn and you poop? Yep? Yeah, see hot topic. 93 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: So um Columbus brings the stuff back and it spreads 94 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: like crazy like syphilis. Yeah, because think about this, um, 95 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: chili peppers, we're are native to the America's and we're 96 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: unknown outside of the America's until about five hundred or 97 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: so years ago. Now they're grown in just about every 98 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: country in the world. Um. There's all different types of varieties. Um. 99 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: But it turns out that there's twenty five wild species 100 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: and five domesticated species. And one of them. Noteworthy things 101 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: about chili peppers is most of the time, when humans 102 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: domesticated a wild crop, they would stop using the wild 103 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: version of it because it was just so far inferior 104 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: to the domesticated version. Not so with with um chilies. 105 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: Wild chilies are just as prized, if not more prized, 106 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: than the domesticated ones. So there's five species chuck. And 107 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: by the way, chili peppers blowing to the night shade 108 00:06:54,720 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: family with potatoes, tomatoes, gojiberries, eggplants in nightshade yep, and um. 109 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: The five species are fun to say. Yeah, I wasn't 110 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: even gonna do it, but I encourage you too, Okay, 111 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Uh kep Cicum and you um keep ciccum, kept cicum frutescents, 112 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: kept scumb but cadam and kept Cicum pubescence does have 113 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: little hairs on them. I saw that one coming. So 114 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: those are the five families. Uh, peppers are generally hot, 115 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: although we'll get into all that with the varieties. Like 116 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: you said the bells, everyone knows bells aren't very hot. 117 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: But um, what you're talking about with the heat is 118 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: what's called their pungency. And the heat actually uh comes 119 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: from alkaloids present in the peppers called cap sasan yes, 120 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: which we talked about in December the pepper pepper spray episode, 121 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: because that's the cap that's what they're using in pepper spray. 122 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: If you didn't listen to it, check it out. It's 123 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: a good one. But yeah, it's kind of funny to 124 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: think about defense. Self defense tool is really just uh, 125 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: canned hot pepper. Yeah, because that stuff can be It works, Yeah, 126 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: it really does work. Um. And with with the the 127 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: pungency of a pepper, most people think that it's found 128 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: in the seeds. That's actually a myth. Well, it is 129 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: found in the seeds, it's not housed in the seeds, right, 130 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: So the seeds are attached to the pepper itself through 131 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: something called the placenta. It's a membrane that white stuff 132 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: that's inside of a pepper, right, and that's where the 133 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: capsaan um is is stored. Um and since the seeds 134 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: are attached to the membrane, a lot of that stuff 135 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: makes it way its way to the seeds. But if 136 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: you really want the high heat, you eat the membrane. 137 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: If you want want the high heat, just eat the 138 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: whole thing. H D seed and D membrane mine. But 139 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: if you're looking for heat, then don't even sweat it. Literally, 140 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: don't sweat it. That's yeah, that's like the second at 141 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: least pun that you've made. Oh yeah, yeah, well was 142 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: the first one? Something was They were both accidental hot. 143 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was. Well, those are just words. No, 144 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: it was perfect, It was really great. Uh So the 145 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: pain is actually not coming from your taste buds because 146 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: they don't feel pain. It's coming from pain receptors in 147 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: your mouth, and it sends a message to your to 148 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: your brain saying this is super hot. I wouldn't eat 149 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: that much unless you like it. Right. It's the same 150 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: pain receptors that UM tell you that say the sip 151 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: of coffee you just took is too hot, or like 152 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: something is thermally too hot. It's triggered by cap sason. 153 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: It's the t r p V one receptor and that 154 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: triggers the release of a neuro transmitter called substance P 155 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: and that's cap sastion can also block. What's crazy is yes, 156 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: so the it's well when we'll talk about it a 157 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: little more later. But cap sason is used as a 158 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: topical pain reliever, right like Shaquille O'Neal knows that he 159 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: does he uh, I think yeah, Um, So cap sasan 160 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: If you rub it on the skin, it goes to 161 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: those TRPV one receptors and basically overloads them so thoroughly 162 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: that they're no longer able to transmit the sensation of 163 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: pain in that area. So it's a local anesthetic. Yeah, 164 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Yeah it is. Uh, And lots of 165 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: other health benefits we'll talk about. Peppers are great for you. 166 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: Peppers are super Uh. They do not cause ulcers, that 167 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: is a myth um and in fact, they protect the 168 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: stomach lining or can and they can also thin the blood, 169 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: so you need to watch out for that if you 170 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: are on an anticoagulant. Yeah. I don't know if they 171 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: say that on the prescription or not, but the pepper prescription, 172 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: no m prescribe to it in Alabania today. No, the 173 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: anticoagulant prescription. Of course it might. But if you are 174 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: in a contest or just at dinner and your mouth 175 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: becomes inflamed, um, don't. Well, you can drink water. I 176 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: think it provides a temporary respite. I don't know if 177 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: it even does that. It does for me. It basically 178 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: smooths the stuff around and throughout your mouth, which is 179 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: not good. What you want is something fatty like milk. Yeah, 180 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: because cap sasan dissolves in the presence of fats or 181 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: like um, if you eat a lot of Mexican food 182 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: or Indian food, Um, that that sour cream and that 183 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: yogurt is a nice way to smooth that out. That's 184 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: what it's there for. Baby. Well, that in taste and 185 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: in flavor and texture and everything else. Yeah, I guess. So. Yeah, 186 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: it's not like they're, like you said, some sour cream 187 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: because this is too hot, but it definitely helps. I 188 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: read an article actually with a guy who was in 189 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: a contest and he was a hot pepper guy, and 190 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: he described I think he ate like three ghost peppers 191 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: just in twenty seconds, and he was fine at first. 192 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: Then it got hot like in it not in his mouth, 193 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: but in his throat and then, um, he just kept 194 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: going through waves like he said it would go away, 195 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: and I thought it was good, and he's like an 196 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: hour later, it felt like a red hot burning nickel 197 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: on my stern um and it was just moving and 198 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: sway down, I guess. And then he said he felt jubilation, 199 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: like exhilaration, which we'll talk about this one of the 200 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: effects of peppers that can you know, pick up your mood. 201 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: But he said he was just like I felt like 202 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: he was on cocaine. Weird. Yeah, yeah, because they trigger 203 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: a release of endorphins exactly, so you can get a 204 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: runners high or some sort of high off of eating pepper, 205 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: which is why some people eat peppers. They really makes 206 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: him feel great. Yeah, I guess this guy wasn't a runner. 207 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: He must have just done some cocaine before his line, right, 208 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: that was his god too. And um, so you said 209 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: that birds are immune to the effects of peppers, and 210 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: they also spread the seed by pooping it out right, Um, 211 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: mammals are not immune to the effects of it, including humans, 212 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: and apparently humans are the only mammals that purposefully eat peppers, 213 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: and it's been called a form of benign masochism. Yeah, 214 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: but it makes sense if um. And the reason why 215 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: they think peppers have that kind of burning thing is 216 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: is to protect itself, to ward off mammals from eating it. Um. 217 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: But the the idea that we can get some sort 218 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: of rush from it, it's kind of counterintuitive if you 219 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: think about it as far as evolution goes from the 220 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: pepper standpoint, because that encourages people to keep eating you. 221 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: That's a good point. All right, Well, let's take a 222 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: break here and we'll come back and talk a little 223 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: bit about how the heat is measured in a hot pepper. 224 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: You know, all right, I guess we need to talk 225 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: about uh Scoville. Mr Scoville was your doctor. He's a pharmacist. Yeah, 226 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: but I wondered if he was a doctor. I think 227 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: he got an honorary doctorate. He deserved one. You count those? Uh? Sure, 228 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: all right, probably depends on where it's from, what it's for, 229 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: but sure, yeah, I would. I want to be like 230 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: you can call me doctor Mr Clark, doctor Mr. Uh. 231 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: He was a pharmacist, like you said, who developed um 232 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: something called the Scoville organ elliptic test in nineteen twelve, 233 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: and uh, what is this? A hilarious name for what 234 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: is it is kind of weird, isn't it should just 235 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: call it the chili test or something. It just made 236 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: me laugh like a goon a. Well. Previous to this 237 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: test um, the only test was basically just to have 238 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: people eat them and ask them how hot? It's pretty hot? Okay, 239 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: that's a pretty hot pepper. Give me some milk fat, right, 240 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: technically pork fat whatever. You just need a slab of 241 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: fat and then get rid of it real quick. Yeah. 242 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: They said chocolate too will help you. Well, it's a 243 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: fatty yeah, full of lipids. I think that's people just 244 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: like the eat chocolate. They're hot stuff. Uh So, Scofield says, 245 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: there's got to be a better way, and he says, 246 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: why don't we devise a test where we have people 247 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: eat peppers and ask them how hot it is? Pretty much, 248 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: but let's do it in a little bit different way. 249 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: Let's keep feeding them peppers that are more diluted until 250 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: they can't feel heat any longer, and just make it 251 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: a little more organized and formal. So the Scopeville, the 252 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: Scoville heat unit is what it comes up with, right, So, 253 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: for example, of bell pepper has a zero not hot, 254 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: but say Hoban euro some types of Hobban euro peppers 255 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: can get up to like five hundred thousand UM. I 256 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: think the red something, Oh what is it? I'm sorry, 257 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: the red Slavinia Haban euro pepper got up to five 258 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: hundred seventy thousand Scoville heat units. It's very hot. And 259 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: what that means is that it would take five hundred 260 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: and seventy thousand cups of water to dilute one cup 261 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: of extract from the red Slovenia Haban euro and one 262 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: shot of milk fat right before before anybody could say 263 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: I detect no heat whatsoever. So that's what the Yeah, 264 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: it's a tremendous amount of war. And it's not like 265 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: he was pouring a whole cup of this stuff into 266 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: five hundred and seventy thousand cups of water. I think 267 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: he just used fractions probably, So yeah, in a minute 268 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: to come to that conclusion, I was like, what kind 269 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: of bat did this guy have in his yard? A 270 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: big one? Uh? So that was the old test um. 271 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: And even though they no longer use that, they still 272 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: used a s h u Scoville heat unit as the 273 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: unit of measure, which I think is a nice little 274 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: tip of the cap it is because it could have 275 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: changed it. Wilbert Scoville's ghost is like, I approve. Uh. Now, 276 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: what they do is use liquid chromatography. Uh. And they've 277 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: been doing that since about the seventies. And that's not 278 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: specific to testing peppers. It's basically just separating and analyzing 279 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: compounds of any mixture, right, But you can target the 280 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: specific type of compound and in this case, you're looking 281 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: for the alkaloid cap saction. Yes, and you determine how 282 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: many parts per million is present in at a given pepper, 283 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: and it takes the subjectivity out. Yeah, And it's literally 284 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: just measuring the level cap sastion level in any pepper. 285 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: But what's need is they figured out Scollville is clearly 286 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: onto something because they figured out that if you take 287 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: this high performance liquid chromatography measurement and multiply the number 288 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: it spits out by sixteen, you will come to the 289 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: Scolleville unit that you would seen by a factor of sixteen. Bad, 290 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: But that's neat that you can it's not like sixteen 291 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: seven or something like that, or or multiplied by the 292 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: fact that you can multiply it by a standard number 293 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: and come to the Scoville heat unit each time means 294 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: he's doing something right, something, there's something there Scoville ware 295 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: to go that sounds like one of the real men 296 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: of genius commercials or something, right, I guess. Or else 297 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: should we get to some of the types of peppers? Now, 298 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: are we there? Yeah? Yeah, I think so, because if 299 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: you're a scientist, there's two ways to classify a pepper 300 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: by its heat using the Scoville heat unit index, and 301 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: by its shape. Yes, and then color. Well, apparently scientists 302 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: don't classify it by color. I'm talking about you and me, buddy. 303 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: Hotheads were in the kitchen, Okay, we're and we're looking 304 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: at peppers, and we're like, look at that red one. 305 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: Look at that green wrinkly one. All right, that one's funny. 306 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: That's a funny shape. That's how we classify red. Funny 307 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: shaped one's really hot. Wrinkly or smooth is another thing 308 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: you might notice. But you're right, as far as science 309 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: is concerned, its heat and shape. And then the shapes 310 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: go from shape A to shape I right, And my 311 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: favorite descriptor is the lantern shape. I think that's great. Yeah, 312 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: that's the hotba neuro Yeah, very thin skinned, uh and 313 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: very hot? Yeah? Can you can you eat peppers? Which 314 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: I didn't even ask this. I eat a lot of peppers. Um, 315 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: My heat tolerance isn't great. I do like the heat, 316 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: but I'm a bit of a whimp. So like, what 317 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: what kind of pepper do you normally? Can you eat? 318 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Like a Scotch bonnet? Well, I mean I cook a 319 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: lot with just bells. Of course that doesn't county because 320 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: they're peppers, all right, Um, so I cook a lot 321 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: with those, but um, I cook a lot with poblanos, anaheims, chips, lapenos, serranos, 322 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: and Chipotle. Is you just threw me off? It's chapolte Chipotle. 323 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: Chipotle is a smoked taban euro right, yeah. And Ancho 324 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: is a dried serrano. Ancho is dried pablano ancho powder. Yeah, 325 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: that's from Pueblo, Mexico. Uh. Poblanos are great if you 326 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: want to make a good chile reno, because they're about 327 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: the right size and they're really just hardy, thick, waxy 328 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: they hold up. Well, yeah, you mean I are aficionados 329 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: of those things, of the pablana, know of the chill reno. 330 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, find a good one of those. Yeah, you know, 331 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: it's funny. In uh college, you know, I worked at 332 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: Mexicali Grill, which I don't think is even a thing anymore. 333 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: I know the one in Atlanta Highway Clothes, which was 334 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: very it was an institution, sure. Uh and their chill 335 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: reino like a lot of the When you go to 336 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: some you know, kind of the cheaper Mexican places that 337 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: have like the menu with eight combination dinners, a lot 338 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: of times you will find a chill rena, which is 339 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: a ball of beef wrapped in cheese sitting on top 340 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: of a one inch square green bell pepper. I've not 341 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: seen that one. Yeah, that was what our chill rena was. 342 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: Basically just meat and cheese. Man, But you want the 343 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: real thing, which is stuffed in a real pepper. Huh. 344 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: And a lot of people use breading unnecessary. I can 345 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: have it both ways. It's well, it's supposed to have 346 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: some sort of fried wrapper around it, and the breading 347 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: is usually too much. The better way to do it 348 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: is like a thin omelet, almost like a crepe around it. 349 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: Everyone's going, yeah, good stuff, all right, Well let's back up. 350 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: Then back to the bells, which you don't consider peppers evidently. Well, 351 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean as far as you're talking heat, yeah, no heat, 352 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: but they're great to grill and and I can't say anything. 353 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: I can't really go beyond a hall of pen Oh 354 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: you can't stand the heat. No, So I'm frequently getting 355 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: out of the kitchen. But I actually made a New 356 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: Year's resolution to eat more hot stuff because I realize, 357 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: like I'm such a total worst when it comes to 358 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: this thing. Like you can build up a tolerant and 359 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: I have. I've gotten much better at like eating spicy stuff. 360 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, if I like habanero is way too hot 361 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: for me, it depends on what kind of spice it is. 362 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: To a lot of times, I'm more tolerant of some 363 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: than others. But I've learned that once you get past 364 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: that very unpleasant, painful sensation, there's like a whole new 365 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: world of tastes out there. Yeah you know, Yeah, good point. 366 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: Uh So the bells are the little squatty squatty dudes. 367 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: Um they can be uh. I don't know if a 368 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: lot of people know this. All the different colors of 369 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: the bell pepper is the same pepper, the red bell, 370 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: the green bell, the yellow bell, the orange bell, it's 371 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: all the same, but they taste differently. Yes, because there 372 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: it's how long they're ripened. So what the green one 373 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: is ripen or harvested? First? Wait a minute, Wait a minute, 374 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: it's all the same pepper, right a minute. That's why 375 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: you'll get a red pepper. This still has a little 376 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: green buddy, like a little patch of green. Oh wait 377 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: a minute, hold on, So you didn't know this? No? Wow, 378 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: All right, well that didn't happen much for real. Yeah, 379 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: well that's great man, thank you for teaching us. The 380 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: green peppers is picked first. That's why they're less expensive 381 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: to um, and they are a little bitter and they 382 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: are not nearly as sweet. Then you have yellow than 383 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: orange than red as they ripen, and that's why the 384 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: red is most expensive. And it's because it's the most mature, delicious. 385 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 1: It is delicious, and they are sweet and kind of fruity. Um. 386 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: But you're smoked on, smoked on um roasted. Yes. Oh, 387 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: I do it all the time. And then you just 388 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: peel the skin off. Yeah what I do? This article 389 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: says to do it in the oven. I either put 390 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: it on the grill I do with fire, or just 391 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: on the stove. I'll just put it on the stove. 392 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: That's a convection. You just put like an old piece 393 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: paper on it. Yeah. I'll just throw the red pepper 394 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: on the fire until it's all black, and then I 395 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: throw it in a paper bag. I don't do paper 396 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: because I don't usually plastic. Yeah, I'll just put it 397 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: in like a grocery store bag. That seems cocinogenic. Uh no, 398 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Well we'll find out. Yeah, check 399 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: back with me in twenty years. Well, because you then 400 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: you run into the sink and wash all that char 401 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: off of it, So I don't think it's coming to 402 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: contact what you're eating with the plastic, right, so you 403 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: use the sink. Huh yeah, just because it's really hot 404 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: to the touch. Still. Well, that that's the other thing 405 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: that I noticed in this article says leave it for 406 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes, which seems smart. I don't ever have 407 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: time for that. So I just put it under the 408 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: cold water, get all the seeds in the membrane and 409 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: the skin off got you, and then slice it up 410 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: and throw it in a salad. It is delicious, very delicious. Uh. 411 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: But the okay, the red pepper has more because it's 412 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: matured longer, has eleven times more beta carotene than green 413 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: and one and a half times more vitamin C, so 414 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: they're healthier. That's what you're paying for, the beta carotene. 415 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: That's right, big money in beata, right. Uh. And then 416 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: you can also have chocolate purple and even white bell peppers, 417 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: and this is now you're just lying now. I think 418 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: those are just different varieties, though I don't think those 419 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: are like how mature they are, like the white ones 420 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: are grown in the dark or something like that. I 421 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I have no idea. Um, the pimiento and 422 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: paprika are both where you they come from red bells thought, 423 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: and paprika is well, then how is how is that? 424 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: How does that have any kind of Paprika has a 425 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: little bit of heat to it, doesn't it? Uh? No, No, 426 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of cayenne pepper. Yeah, cayenne is made from 427 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: hot red chilies, and paprika is just smoked unless it's 428 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: Hungarian paprika, and that's sweeter and that's not smoked. So 429 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: if you see a recipe that says paprika, you should 430 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: probably know whether it's smoked or Hungarian. And if not, 431 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: I would probably just go with hungarian. Oh you think, well, 432 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: unless you just know you want a smoky flavor. This 433 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: has been quite a ler. Banana peppers very mild, Peppercini's 434 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: very mild. You get those on your subway sandwich? Yeah yeah, 435 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: or like as a side on a Papa John's pizza. 436 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like that. That's right. I knew i'd seen those. 437 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: And then of course the best one of all, the 438 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: pablano pepper, right. Uh. And then the pimento, which we 439 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: just mentioned, and that is a variety of the red 440 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: bell I think, and that's what they put in olives 441 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: and cheese. What about the hot guys seat, I don't 442 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: mess with them that much. But yeah, like we said, 443 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: there's Halapano, Serrano, abaniro, Chippotle, so it is Chipotle? Yeah, 444 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: what do you think it was? We were saying Chipolte? 445 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: Are you saying Chipotle? I was saying Chipotle, said that? 446 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: And then Anaheim Anaheim. Yeah. I think some people transpose 447 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: to l and say Chipotte. Yeah, they definitely do. I 448 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: got confused. I know how to say it right, but 449 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: earlier I was like, wait, they didn't sound right. Yeah. Uh. 450 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: And then of course you have the delicious tai chilies 451 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: or bird's eye chilies, and those are really good and 452 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: super hot, and they are small and thin but pack 453 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: of punch. So normally the rule of thumb is thin 454 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: long ones that are red are going to be your hottest, right, 455 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: But there's exceptions to those rules, which is the Scotch bonnet. 456 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: Scotch bonnet is like it's like even, it's like more 457 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: pumpkin shaped. It's like it's habaniro but it's even it's 458 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: less lantern shaped and more pumpkin shaped. And I think 459 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: it's like a yellow yellow orange and very hot, very 460 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: frequently found in like Jamaican cuisine, the Scotch bonnet. Uh, 461 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: if you dry the pepper out and you have like 462 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: the ento pepper, the chipotle dried stuff that we're talking about, 463 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hotter. Get that in mind. Some people 464 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: who like peppers will just put them in a food 465 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: dehydrator and eat them like that. Yeah, or just let 466 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: them just dry out in you're in the sun. If 467 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: you're slack, you're a hippie chuck. We also said that. 468 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: So if you're a scientist, you say this pepper is 469 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: shape a and as a Scoville rating of five chilion. Right, Okay, Um, 470 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: then you've just described a pepper to another scientist. They 471 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. But there's a something called 472 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: the Chili Pepper Institute. It's an institute that's associated with 473 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: the University of New Mexico, and New Mexico, by the way, 474 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: is the the foremost domestic producer of chili peppers in 475 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: the United States thanks to a man named FABIOND. Garcia, 476 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: who was a pioneer in cultivating peppers here in the 477 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: United States. He released his first variety, the New Mexico 478 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: number nine. I thought you canna say his first album 479 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: Mambo number five. Yeah um. But he's like known as 480 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: the father of chili peppers in the US, the North 481 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: American chili and in India they are. Um, they're the 482 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: world's largest producer of chili's. Yeah um. But there's so 483 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: there's another way to describe them beyond shaped, color and heat, 484 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: and the Chili Pepper Institute came up with this. It's 485 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: for the heat profile. And basically there's five components to 486 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: the heat profile. Um. There's the heat the Scoville heat 487 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: unit to it. Yeah um. Then there's how fast it 488 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: hits Like you were saying that guy who ate some 489 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: ghost chilis um that they were kinda like it took 490 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: a minute to come on. He's like, this isn't so bad. 491 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: Some peppers that hit like immediately. So that would be 492 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: the second descript or the second component um. The third 493 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: would be whether it lingers or dissipates quickly or how 494 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: fast it dissipates. Eventually it's going to dissipate you hope, yeah, 495 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: and then come and burn the next day coming out 496 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: the other end. Yeah, you know, yeah uh. And then 497 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: the fourth one is um where it's sensed, like is 498 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: it in the throat, is it on your tongue, is 499 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: it in the roof of your mouth? Where does it attack? Basically? 500 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: And then the last one is whether it's flat or sharp. 501 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: So flat is say, um, I saw, and I think 502 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: that that New Yorker article or maybe the Smithsonian one 503 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: that sent you UM. Flat is where it's like your 504 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: whole tongue is just coated in the sensation of heat, 505 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: whereas um sharp is where it feels like little hot 506 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: needles in your mouth or something like that. And the 507 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: preference in America is for a flat sensation, whereas Asian 508 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: countries tend to prefer the sharp sensation, like the tai chilies. Yes, 509 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: interesting sharp, that's right. Uh. Do you like hot Asian food? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Um, 510 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: I like curries and stuff like that. Nothing too hot though. 511 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm still a pretty big woos and 512 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm also like comfortable enough with myself that I don't 513 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: feel the need to show off or accepted dare of 514 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: course not no, so yeah, I don't need that hottest stuff, 515 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: but I will sometimes. If you're still accepting food related 516 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: dares in your late thirties or forties, yeah, then you 517 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: don't know you should seek some help. Did you read 518 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: about that guy, Ted Busser Busser, Oh, he was in 519 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: the New Yorker article. He that's exactly what he does. He's, 520 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 1: you know, thirties forties. He's on YouTube some help and 521 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: he accepts um challenges, food challenges, so people will send 522 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: him like the most disgusting thing they can find, and 523 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: then he eats it on on air. But one of 524 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: the things that he eats are like really hot peppers. 525 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: Has become kind of like a a de facto pepper judge, right, 526 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: because there is this whole community out there. Yeah, well, 527 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that after we take a break. How 528 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: about that stop, so Chuck, we kind of teased that 529 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: there's a there's a community of chili pepper ficionados out 530 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: there to tough guys and women. Yes, and yeah, I 531 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 1: meant that in the non gender specific Yeah. And they 532 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: range from um, just people who like to eat them, 533 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: to people who make their own hot sauce, to people 534 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: who are competing by growing cultivators. Yeah, the hottest peppers 535 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: on the planet. And they it gets pretty dicey. They 536 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: get um, very competitive and very snippy. From what I read. Yeah, 537 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: there's about you know, um, the legitimacy of the heat 538 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: that they claim. Yeah. So there's just again a really 539 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: great New Yorker article called the fire Eaters from I 540 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: think a year or two back, and it gives a 541 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: really great outsider's view of this community, and it is 542 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: very snippy. One of the problems is there's no official 543 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: central body that says this is the hottest pepper on 544 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: the planet. Well, Guinness does, Guinness doesn't. A lot of 545 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: people defer to Guinness, to some other people are like 546 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: Guinness does. No, they're they're just they're dilettants. What we 547 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: need is a governing body that's dedicated only to chili peppers, 548 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: well not Guinness, right, yeah, And one reason why is 549 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: because it changes, like people are cultivating these things. There 550 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: could be a new hot, hottest pepper every three months exactly, 551 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: and Guinness isn't gonna stay on top of that, right 552 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: So there it's kind of like, why are you being 553 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: talking to those guys. So some people do defer to 554 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,959 Speaker 1: Guinness because it is the closest thing that they have 555 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: to um a a judgment saying this is the world's 556 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: hottest people just like we're saying that. But um, there's 557 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: no organizing, central body that that is dedicated to judging 558 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: which is the hottest chili pepper, and there should be there. 559 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: According to these people, they could use it. They think 560 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: the government should supply it, but they can't even decide 561 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: on whether that the hottest pepper in the world should 562 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: be its peak or what an averages it's mean. So 563 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: right now, um, Guinness goes by the mean. And as 564 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: it stands in the world, the hottest chili pepper as 565 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: of August two thousand thirteen is called the Carolina Reaper. Yeah, 566 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: the HP two B in H seven out of rock Kill, 567 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: South Carolina and the Carolina Reaper has an average, an average. 568 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: Remember that um red Slavinia Habaniro had five hundred and 569 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: seventy thousand Scoville heat units. This one averages one million, 570 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: five hundred sixty nine thousand, three hundred Scoville heat units. 571 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: That's right, and a peak of over two point two million. 572 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: And hats off to Ed Curry of pucker Butt Pepper 573 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: Company and uh Fort Mill. He's he's a very controversial 574 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: pepper grower. He is. He blended. The original cross breed 575 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: was between a ghost pepper, which was the previous hottest 576 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: pepper introduced to the North America in two thousand, uh, 577 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: the infamous ghost pepper, and then he uh crossbreeded that 578 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: with bread that with a red habanerro. So the the 579 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: boot toil Lokia is the ghost pepper. It's from India 580 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: and from two thousand seven to two thirteen it was 581 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: the reigning champ. Yes, and from before that was that 582 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: red slavinia from two thousand and seven. Again that's as 583 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: far as Guinness is concerned. Um, but there are peppers 584 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: out there. There's the um so what's the scorpion one, 585 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: the Trinidad scorpion Butch t Yeah, so that was actually 586 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: grown by some guys in Australia who crossed a Trinidad 587 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: scorpion which is already very hot, with a pepper that 588 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: was grown by a guy named Butch Taylor in I 589 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: think Mississippi. He's right outside big on this. As it 590 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: turns out. Um, I think the thing is like, if 591 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: there's people who listen to like Front two four two 592 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: and go boar hunting, if there's a larger population of 593 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: them and that country, that that country is going to 594 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: be more likely to be into eating hot peppers. What's 595 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: Front two four two? They're like an industrial band? What 596 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: does that mean about me? Because I've never even heard 597 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: of it. You don't need hot hot peppers? Uh, there 598 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: are some who claim. In fact, grower in southern California says, 599 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: I've had I had a pepper once that was over 600 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: three million. But I don't even publish that stuff, he says, 601 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: because it's a fluke. Right, So so that's the that's 602 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: the question, like should that one be considered the world's 603 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: hottest pepper or should that plant have to species consistently 604 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: have to put out something at three million? Yeah, doesn't matter. Well, 605 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: it's another question entirely, you know, can't we just I 606 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: know they get specific about it and they want to do, 607 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: but it seems like we can just say all of 608 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,959 Speaker 1: these are very hot, very very hot. You're welcome. Yeah, 609 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's scary stuff if you it is, Um, 610 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: Christopher Guests should do a mockumentary about pepper hot heads. 611 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: It's right for it, all right. So let's say you 612 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: want to pick out a pepper at a grocery store. 613 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: Look for firm skin, look for super bright colors, which 614 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm pretty down on produce and big 615 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 1: box grocery stores. But if you go to a farmer's market, 616 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: and especially like a local farmers market, you're gonna see 617 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: weird shaped, super super bright colored peppers. Yeah, weird shaped 618 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: is right. Remember. Yeah, we've talked about this before. Grif 619 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: your stores won't sell ones that are perfectly awesome and 620 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: maybe even better tasting because they look weird, right, that 621 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: bell pepper looks like Richard Nixon, throw it in the trash. Yeah, 622 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm um, the longer they ripe in, 623 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 1: the hotter they get. So. Like you said, the red ones, Um, 624 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: if the red ones still have a little green. They're 625 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: not fully ripe yet, so they probably won't be as hot. 626 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: But that's that's the case with a bell probably anyway. 627 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 1: So you're not looking for heat, looking for sweet. Um. 628 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: If you are cooking with peppers, uh, it says in 629 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: here like be sure to wash your hands. But what 630 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: you really need to do, if you're serious is where gloves? Where? Um? 631 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: Where doctors? What are they called rubber gloves? Yeah, rubber gloves, 632 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: because that is truly the only way. Like, if you 633 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: come into contact with your fingers and that membrane or 634 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: those seeds, you can wash your hands ten times and 635 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: you forget, and like the next day you will get 636 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: an eye booger out and you'll be like, what in 637 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: the world my eyes on fire? You take your context 638 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: and you go to put them in the next one. 639 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I cooked one night some piea and 640 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: us some hot peppers and did not wear gloves, and 641 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: I went peepee later. Oh no, I didn't think about it, 642 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: and I had a speaking of syphilis burning sensation down below. 643 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: It was bad. That's how they simulated for medical students. 644 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: Really it was bad. So I learned the hard way. 645 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: I just got a box of those nights as at 646 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: nitrate gloves nitrate or nitrite and explodes. The other one's fine, 647 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: I think, well, I put him in the kitchen. I 648 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 1: also wear a painter's respirator. What kind of peppers are 649 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: you working with? The you know, the hot stuff like 650 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: ghost peppers. No, but I cook with hobby arrows and 651 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: stuff sometimes, and it's like it's nuclear the fumes are. 652 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: It's like if you're over the Saint cl in the mountain, 653 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: you're breathing it in. You'll you'll find yourself or at 654 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: least I do, coughing and burning. So I'll wear the 655 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: respirator in my club. So um, you mean. I would 656 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: juice sometimes and every once in a while she'd put 657 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 1: like a pepper in there, like a hall of peeno, 658 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: and it would just turn the kitchen into like like 659 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: a tear gas bomb had gone off. It's crazy. It 660 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: gets everywhere. It does because these things are basically vaporized 661 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: and they just spread so easily through the air and 662 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: it definitely gives it a kick. Um. Oh, if you 663 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: want to store peppers, um, like we said, you can 664 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: dry them out and they'll keep for a long time. Uh, 665 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: they'll keep you don't want to wash them. You want 666 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: to just put them unwashed into your fridge. Yeah, true, 667 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 1: and they'll just keep just regular peppers. Peppers will keep 668 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: for a long time. It's not something that goes bad 669 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: very quickly. But you can freeze them if you slice them, 670 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: put them on a baking tray in the freezer. Then 671 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: you can collect them and throw him in a bag 672 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: and you can keep them for like a year. Nice. Uh, 673 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: But I don't see why you'd freeze peppers. Just buy 674 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: the Mountain need and cook with them or pickle them. 675 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: That's great. Pickled peppers are wonderful. I can just eat 676 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: those straight. I don't like pickled things, so I'm not 677 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: into it. But yeah, it's it's so good for you. 678 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: Pickling pickled foods are so good for you. There's so 679 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: many health benefits. I'll you'll eat other healthy things that 680 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: I enjoy. But how do you not like pickles? Stuff? Like? 681 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 1: I could eat pickled any you could cut your finger 682 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: off and pickle it. I'd probably eat it. How does 683 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: anyone not like anything? But I mean, like what about it? 684 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: You don't like the tartness? No, just the taste anything pickled? 685 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: Like a pickled a pickle sour kraut. Oh you don't 686 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: like sour kraut sauer kraut. I guess I could have 687 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: seen that. I hate pickled so much that I have 688 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: to ask and rest, like when I go to a 689 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: pub and have like a burger and fries, to leave 690 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 1: the pickle off, because invariably they will put the pickle 691 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: down soaking into the French fries in the bun, and 692 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: it will ruin that for me. Wow, you hate pickles. 693 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: That might hate pickles that much, Well, all eat the 694 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: pickles that you get on the side from now. Okay, 695 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: well it will eat the pickles. You can arm wrestle 696 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: her for them. Okay, that's fine, that's a deal. Um. 697 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: But when I said you shouldn't, you know, just buy 698 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: the amount. If you're growing pickles or i'm sorry, growing peppers, pickles, 699 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: pickled peppers, then you might end up with a lot 700 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: of peppers. And that's why you might want to pickle 701 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: them or pickle them if you're into that, because we 702 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: grew peppers one year and they were easy to grow 703 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: and bountiful. Yeah, pepper planks, Yeah, that equals a lot 704 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: of peppers. I guess we should talk about growing them 705 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: a little bit. Huh, I guess. So they're perennials, so 706 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: that means they stick around. Well, it depends on where 707 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: you live. Yeah, if it's cold, you might grow them 708 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: as animals. They're pretty flexible. Um, you can start them 709 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: as seeds ten weeks prior to the first frost. You 710 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: want to germinate them in little trays. First you soaked 711 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: the seeds for a couple of days. Then you germinate 712 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: them with a little bit of starter ten weeks prior 713 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: to frost. After the last frost comes and goes, you 714 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: can start to harden them by moving them outside a 715 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: couple hours at a time and talk to them, say 716 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: this is good for you. You shake them. It takes 717 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, um a few hours each day 718 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: more until they are hard and ready, right, and then 719 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: they start to grow. You want to fertilize them. When 720 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: the peppers grow out and turn hard, you can cut them. 721 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: And when you do, you want to cut some stem 722 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: because it extends their shelf life, and then you have peppers. 723 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: You can also just go to the store and buy 724 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: some peppers. Yeah, if you're in the garden garden, Yeah, 725 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: if not, or I've just grown from seed. Man, it 726 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: seems like such a nightmare to me. Well, it's for 727 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: people who have time and what are hobbyists. But I 728 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: also get like, if it's a very like if it's 729 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: an heirloom something or just thing you're not going to 730 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: find anywhere. With peppers, I mean, sure there are some 731 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: like if you want to buy the Carolina Reaper, you 732 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,479 Speaker 1: can get packs of those seeds for like ten bucks 733 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: or something. Right, You're not gonna find those at any stores. 734 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,720 Speaker 1: So I get growing those from seed, But like growing 735 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: like a squash plant from seed, It's like, what are 736 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: you doing? Man? You've got you should have better things 737 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: to do with your time than that a weaker squash 738 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: last year from seed? What are you doing? Man? We 739 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: have a garden, right, But you can just buy like 740 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: the seedlings. Yeah, you could do that. Okay. Are you 741 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: saying why do people garden? No? I love gardening. I'm 742 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: just saying growing from seed a plant, Like, if you 743 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: like growing from seed, you should get a seed catalog 744 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: and find something that you can't find elsewhere. That's what 745 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I have a very strong opinion on growing 746 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: things from each their own. With everything, but gardening but gardening, 747 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: we start plants a lot too. Not everything is from 748 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: seed because you're saying sensible peak, But do you do 749 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: you see my point? Do you get seed catalogs? Not catalogs, 750 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't think. But we buy buy seeds online. You 751 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: should get your hands on seed catalog Yeah. Yeah, I 752 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: can't remember the name of the company. That sounds like 753 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: to book reading. Yes it is. It's just so. Yes, 754 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 1: it's very delightful. It makes you so excited for spring. 755 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: Uh Off label uses of peppers will say you can 756 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: eat them or you can rub them on your pain parts. Yeah, 757 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: because remember they overload your nose desceptor. That's right. They 758 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: can lower your blood pressure. They can be antiquagulants, like 759 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: I think that's one and the same. Think about it. 760 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: If it thins the blood, it's going to also like 761 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: lower your blood pressure. True, I would think. Okay, it's 762 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: also been shown chuck. It lowers bad cholesterol, not even 763 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,479 Speaker 1: not just any cholesterol. It lowers your bad cholesterol. And 764 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: not only does it lower the cholesterol present in your blood, 765 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,479 Speaker 1: I think it attracts it, right because remember it's fat 766 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: soluble um and then it gets flushed out of the system. 767 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: It actually removes the build up of bad cholesterol plaque 768 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: in your arteries. Man, this stuff is it makes me 769 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: want to eat more peppers. I already eat quite a 770 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: bit of peppers. I need to eat more, I think. Uh. 771 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: In the future, they hope to use it for um, 772 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: cancer prevention, stroke, heart attack prevention. All right, you know, 773 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: I guess it already works. Is that if it's lowering 774 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: your blood blood pressure, that's what I got from that too. 775 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: But the cancer, it's its own thing. They found that 776 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 1: that cap station itself basically attacks. Wow, I mean that's 777 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: Are you upset about the growing from seed tirade? Oh no, 778 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't care. What like it was directed at me. Yeah, 779 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: it didn't mean for it to be, but it took 780 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: a pretty hard turn at the end. There right to 781 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: your right to your front door, I don't care, right 782 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: to your garden door? No, no, no, no. Uh. We 783 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: have an article called ken gost peppers kill you on 784 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: our website. Cannot it's not good. Um, but apparently three 785 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: pounds um the peppers can kill you? Is that right? Yeah? 786 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: How like what's the mode of death? I don't know. 787 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: They don't say. That's why it's not a good article. Well, 788 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: so these these pain receptors, the um t r P, 789 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's a toxin cap sasan is trpv one um. 790 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: They're also responsible for regulating your body heat. Helping regulate 791 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: your body heat. So I wonder if you have like 792 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: a heat stroke or something like that. I don't know. 793 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: I would just say it's if it's a toxin and 794 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: you eat too much of any toxin, you could die. Yeah, 795 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: But but there's you know, you die from like some 796 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 1: toxin slow your respiration and you stop breathing from lack 797 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,439 Speaker 1: of eye You know what. I bet you had something 798 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: to do with respiration, because if you are in a 799 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: hot pepper eating contest, one thing they will talk about 800 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: is their throat swelling and having a hard time breathing. 801 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,879 Speaker 1: That'd be my guess. I think they uh. I think 802 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: there was a Science Daily article originally that said that. 803 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: So there was a speaking of ghost peppers up until 804 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: last year. In two thousand and fourteen, there was a 805 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: restaurant in Grantham, Lincolnshire, I take two to be in England, 806 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: probably called Bindy. It was. The restaurant was named Bindy. 807 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: It was an Indian restaurant um and it had a 808 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: Curry called the Widower that used twenty ghost peppers among 809 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: a ton of other ones, and apparently, um, they had 810 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: sold like five six hundred of them and like about 811 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: three quarters of the people finished it managed to finish it. Which, yeah, 812 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: if you think like the ghost pepper that was like 813 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: the one that got all the press in two thousand seven. 814 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: I think what's remarkable is that people that are ordering 815 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: this are probably have a very high tolerance anyway, and 816 00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: if they're not able to finish it, that says a 817 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: lot exactly. So that's chili peppers. Everybody, go forth and 818 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: eat something. You said that it doesn't give you ulcers, 819 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 1: and in fact it actually helps with cases of ulcers. Right, 820 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: that's right, and that amazing it is. Okay, So if 821 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: you want to know more about chili peppers, you can 822 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 1: type that word into the search bar how stuff works 823 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: dot com and it will bring up this article. And 824 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: I said, uh, search bompsys listening. I'm gonna call this 825 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: a rarely granted shout out. We get requests a lot 826 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: for shout outs, and we couldn't do them all otherwise 827 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: our show would be called shout outs. You should know. 828 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: But this one was from a fourteen year old girl 829 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: who sended very sweet from Red. Hi, guys, I'm a 830 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: fourteen year old girl who's been listening for a long time, 831 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: and I wanted to say thanks for the time that 832 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,919 Speaker 1: you spend to make it smarter. It's been really fun 833 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: for my sister Anna and I uh to listen to 834 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: your podcast before we go to sleep. However, she's leaving 835 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: for college soon to study studio art and I'll be 836 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: all alone when I listen to you guys. So if 837 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: it isn't too much to ask, could you give her 838 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: a shout out and tell her that she is an 839 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 1: awesome sister and will be missed. Uh, Sarah, you could 840 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 1: tell her that yourself too. By the way you should 841 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: express your emotions, I don't like to talk. You can 842 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: also say to my brother's Jonathan, Stephen and Tommy that 843 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 1: they are okay. Too many kids are in this family. 844 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 1: It sounds like one five. Uh if you oh, and 845 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: she said, no, don't mention that's sixth one. I'm just kidding. 846 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 1: If you do this, then you guys will be the 847 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: best podcasters ever, not like you aren't already actually on 848 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: a just sent an email or maybe it's Anna to 849 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 1: you guys last night about hula hoops and uh, if 850 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: you could put both our emails on the air, that 851 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,720 Speaker 1: would be the best. I'm not gonna do that, Sarah, 852 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: but I did write her back, so um, this is 853 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: a secret from annas it would be a big surprise. 854 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: So uh Sarah, Tona Anna, good luck at college. You 855 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: will be missed. You're a great sister. That's a nice 856 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 1: Chuck and their brothers Jonathan, Stephen and Tommy and Desert. Okay, man, 857 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,919 Speaker 1: that was nice, very kind of you. You never know. Uh, well, 858 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: if you want to see if you can tell get 859 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: Chuck's heart strings, give you your best shot. Good luck. 860 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 1: You can tweet to us at s Y s K podcast. 861 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: You can join us on Facebook dot com, slash stuff 862 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: you Should Know. 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