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Okay, yeah, scheduling didn't really kind 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: of work workout, but I'm glad we got a chance 44 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 4: of do it now. It's perfect time and actually what 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 4: everything that's going on. So Ryan Wilson is a young 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: entrepreneur that's killing the game right now. The Gathering Spot. 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: If you if you're from Atlanta, I'm pretty sure you've 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 4: heard of the Gathering Spot. It's a big deal. And 49 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 4: so now there's actually three locations. One that's just got built, 50 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 4: I believe in d C, one that's being built in 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: l A. And uh, the mothership here in Atlanta. So 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: the Gathering Spot is kind of a mix between co 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 4: working space, event space? 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: Is that give it the title? It's the hub of culture. 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 3: It has civic engagement and it's a birthplace for entrepreneurism. 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 4: Okay, can we go with that. I'll rock with that 57 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 4: if it works. Yeah, it's like a hub. It's a 58 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 4: hub for creatives to come to work, to build with 59 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: each other, the network, to meet people. It's a whole 60 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 4: cultural experience. And Ryan's thirty years old. He's from Marietta. 61 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 4: I grew up and married it. Yeah, Marietta. And then 62 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: he went to George Georgetown, Georgetown, d C. So yeah, 63 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 4: DC roots and he came back home and uh, yeah, 64 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: young entrepreneurs just killing the game. So we've got to 65 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: have a very enlightened conversation. We're going to talk about, 66 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: you know, obviously, how COVID nineteen has affected things. You know, 67 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: how he started the business, ideas behind the business, monetization, 68 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: all of that stuff. So I'm excited. Thank you for 69 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: joining us, first and foremost. 70 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 6: Hey, it's an honor. I appreciate youall. This is a long, long. 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: So nothing happens before it's time. 72 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, for sure. All right, so let's get 73 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: into it. All right, So how do you how does 74 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: this all start? Because obviously you know you're young and 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: it's a big idea. So what gives you the vision 76 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: to start this and how did you go about starting it? 77 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, So it's funny. I never wanted to be an entrepreneur. 78 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 6: My my parents are entrepreneurs, and growing up I saw 79 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 6: what it took to be in business for yourself every day, 80 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 6: and my dream was to be a lawyer. So I 81 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 6: went to Georgetoun for undergrad. I was super focused on 82 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 6: making sure that I did everything possible to get to 83 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 6: law school, and so I stayed in DC, went to 84 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 6: Georgetown Law, and the summer between my first year of 85 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 6: law school and my second, I was back here working 86 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 6: at a law firm. It was the same summer as 87 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 6: the Trayvon Martin case, and I'm sure everybody remember George 88 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 6: Immerman gets acquitted or Trayvon's murder. And I got an 89 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 6: email from some friends doing some community organizing work in DC, 90 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 6: and they sent me email on the subject was what 91 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 6: are we going to do? And I sat on it 92 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 6: for a second, but then I responded back to them 93 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 6: with this idea that we needed to have a place 94 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 6: where we could have the conversation I really missed. You 95 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 6: think about like high school and college, like those are 96 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 6: one of the last environments where you can you could 97 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 6: just have people that are studying different things, people come 98 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 6: talk about different things, and I missed that. So I 99 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 6: wrote back to them, this was July of twenty thirteen, 100 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 6: saying I think we should build a club basically for 101 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 6: black folks in DC where we can get together. And 102 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 6: I couldn't shake that idea, and so from that day 103 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 6: forward I worked on trying to build TGS. I sent 104 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 6: the plan to one of my roommates from college the 105 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 6: next day, and that was July sixteenth, twenty July sixteen, 106 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 6: twenty thirteen. 107 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: We worked every day after that to try to make 108 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: it happen. 109 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: So, but you went to school to study law, right, 110 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: so this is like a complete career change. Did you 111 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: have to battle with that side of it? Like, Yo, 112 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: I went to school, my dream was to be in 113 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: the law field, and now my heart. 114 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: Is calling me towards something else. Yeah. 115 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 6: No, I mean it was a real it was a 116 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 6: real thing. I mean I called my parents and I 117 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 6: was like, hey, I don't think I'm going to be 118 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 6: a lawyer. And I mean they're entrepreneurs, but even they 119 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 6: were like, what I mean, I'm on like a fifteen 120 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 6: year journey to become a lawyer at that point, and 121 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 6: I'm finally I mean, I finished my first year, I've 122 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 6: got two years. 123 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: Left and then I'm there. And I couldn't. 124 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 6: I mean, but this idea, I don't really know how 125 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 6: to explain it any better than it just like it 126 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 6: felt like it needed to exist. And so I told them, 127 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 6: I was like, look, I'm going to graduate. I will 128 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 6: finish my law degree. And so I was scheduled to 129 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 6: graduate in twenty fifteen. But every night TK, who's my 130 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 6: business partner, he would come to my apartment and we 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 6: would work that second shift all night long, just working 132 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 6: on the business, and so between twenty thirteen when I 133 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 6: wrote their initial plan to twenty sixteen we'd actually open. 134 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 6: Until twenty sixteen, we worked each day. But people thought 135 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 6: I was nuts. I mean, I'm at a very good 136 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 6: law school and I'm the president of the Black Law 137 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 6: Students Association. I'm doing all this stuff that was leading 138 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 6: me in the pact like direction of being a lawyer, 139 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 6: and so to come out on the other side of 140 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 6: that and be like, I mean, I was telling people 141 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 6: at graduation like now I'm not going to practice, and 142 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 6: they would look at me and be like, spend all 143 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 6: this time and all this money to not practice law? 144 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: What kind of law were you studying? 145 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 6: I went there and it's interesting where this how this 146 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 6: is shifted. But I wanted to be a civil rights attorney. 147 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 6: For me, it was about trying to do something that 148 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 6: was the best way to help people. So that led 149 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 6: to a lot of education kind of related classes in 150 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 6: law school. But people thought I was crazy. I mean 151 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 6: all the way to the like the very very I 152 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 6: feel like for some people it didn't start making sense 153 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 6: until twenty eighteen we had been open, and folks were like, okay, 154 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 6: it actually division, Yeah, Like I could support myself. 155 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 4: By then. 156 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 6: I mean that was another part of this journey that 157 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 6: folks didn't know early on. 158 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: Like we were, we were broke, broke, broke, So how 159 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: did you all? Right? So twenty sixteen you say you 160 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: open it? You opened the spot right twenty sist and 161 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: so so you finished law school and then right after 162 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: law school you decide to open it. 163 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: So I'm working that whole time, and so I graduate May. 164 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: What'd you work at? 165 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: Well? 166 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 6: I was working at law firms, so I would just 167 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 6: go bounce between different law firms. But I graduate May 168 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 6: of twenty fifteen. We moved the next day to Atlanta. 169 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 6: We got we packed our apartments up. TK was working 170 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 6: in finance in DC. He quit his job to kind 171 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 6: of time at the same moment. We got in the 172 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 6: car and drove to Atlanta overnight. And from that day, 173 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 6: I mean, it was about just trying to figure out 174 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 6: how to make this plan we've been writing for two 175 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 6: years happened. 176 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: So how'd you so with the brick and mortar businesses, 177 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: it's a lot going overhead and expenses with just intnet business, right, 178 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: So it's like you got to build out the spot. 179 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 4: I'm assuming it's a lot different things go into it. 180 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 4: So where'd you get the how'd you get the finance 181 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: and to do that? 182 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 6: So that was that was one of the more painful 183 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 6: parts of this whole process. The first number we got 184 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 6: back was a million dollars and I remember looking at 185 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 6: TK and being. 186 00:08:58,559 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: Like, oh, I'm about to go practice law. 187 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 2: I don't know where we got to get this moody. 188 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know what's about to happen. 189 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 6: And we had a really important conversation with my dad 190 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 6: and he said something that we still say in TGS. 191 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 6: He was like, son, small ideas will keep you small, 192 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 6: and so you have to fight for the best possible 193 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 6: version of what this business could be. And so we 194 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 6: kept dreaming, we kept pushing, and one million ended up 195 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 6: becoming two million that we needed. Two million became three 196 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 6: and we would just go around town trying to pitch 197 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 6: people the concept. We counted though it was ninety seven 198 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 6: straight people that said no before the first person say yes. 199 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 6: I mean and I'm talking about painful notes. We would 200 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 6: go to these restaurants and like, I've sat in the 201 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 6: lobby of the Ritz guess what used to be the 202 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 6: writs in Atlanta. Nobody come I've sat at dinners with 203 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 6: people you pitch for four hours and I kid you not, 204 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 6: this dude said, so what is it? After four out 205 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 6: four straight hours? And so we kept going though, and 206 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 6: we would ask people, even when they told us no, 207 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 6: to refer us to people, and so they did and 208 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 6: kept going and the number kept growing, but kept using 209 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 6: that same advice like small DIDs will keep you small, 210 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 6: and that's how the I don't know the site kept going. 211 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 3: So when you're trying to get the finance and my 212 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: mom thinking like, what's that process like? Because you're trying 213 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: to get fine some answer for something that isn't really 214 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: here yet, and you're trying to tell people like this 215 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: is what it's going to be, So how do you 216 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: convince them? 217 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: What's the conversation? 218 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: Like it was, it was. 219 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 6: A crazy Chicken or the egg problem because you needed 220 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 6: investors in order to get a building, but you needed 221 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 6: a building. 222 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: To get investors. 223 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 6: Because you would go to people and be like, yo, 224 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 6: so I have this idea and they'd be like, well 225 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 6: where is it. You'd be like, well, if you give 226 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 6: me some money, I'll find out where it is. So 227 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 6: we were we got to a point where we kind 228 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 6: of like talked about both things happening at the same 229 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 6: time where we would like we had found a spot 230 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 6: where we are now, and we just kept like believing 231 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 6: that we would have the money necessary by the time 232 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 6: we needed to. And they were kind of all these 233 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 6: different dates where you had to have different amounts of 234 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 6: cash and fortunate enough that like those those numbers came in, 235 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 6: I mean, and they were they were big numbers that 236 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 6: we needed. I mean it was half a million or another 237 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 6: half a million to make different deposits. But that was 238 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 6: that ninety seven, just like all over town pitching people 239 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 6: like just I mean, I was talking to anybody that 240 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 6: I could about Tjes. 241 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: I read that your slogan became, hey, you got anybody 242 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 3: else that can tell us no, We're looking for more people. 243 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, truly, like. 244 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 6: It was not a personal thing when you told us no, 245 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 6: because I believed I believe then and now that like 246 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 6: if I talked to you and you didn't get it, 247 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 6: that that was actually a sign that we were headed 248 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 6: in the right direction, because I'm like, anything that's disruptive, 249 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 6: like you're not supposed to understand. And that's how we 250 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 6: It wasn't personal. Folks would say no, and I'd be 251 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 6: like all right, cool, like you have another friend that 252 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 6: would say no, and a lot of times they did. 253 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 4: So you had to raise three million dollars roughly. Yeah, 254 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 4: So who was your first big break that was like, 255 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: all right, I involve invest in this. It was a 256 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: guy that nobody uh knows knows here, Yeah, just like 257 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 4: a low key businessman. It made some money in the 258 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 4: stock market. I guess we bugged him enough and he 259 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 4: was like, I'll give you twenty thousand in Our first 260 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 4: check was twenty thousand. So was it is it like 261 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 4: a shark tank? Are you giving up equity? 262 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 6: Like yeah, yeah, so yeah, no, yeah, there's no debt 263 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 6: in the business at all. It was all equity and 264 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 6: so yeah, we were selling parts of the company to 265 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 6: get the money. 266 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: And how long did it take you to get the 267 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: full hmount? 268 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 6: Nine months of like when since like from the time 269 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 6: we moved back here, it was nine months. 270 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 4: Until we had it like fully funded. 271 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 6: And even that is kind of strange because like it 272 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 6: truly wasn't like you read these stories where it'll be 273 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 6: like we got all the money and then we started. 274 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 6: That wasn't what we were doing, Like we would get 275 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 6: some money in and like sometimes y'all, I didn't even 276 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 6: have the cash for I don't even know if it 277 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 6: like officially hit our bank account because I'm telling you 278 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 6: that money we'd be gone, so we'd be on the 279 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 6: phone with the bank, like, look, I wrote a check, 280 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 6: and so there's some money that's about to hit our account. 281 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 6: I need you to clear the check that we deposited 282 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 6: because it's like it's coming out the same dayady, yeah, Like, 283 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 6: I mean, we learned all the different ways that you 284 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 6: can develop relationships with banks and really try to like 285 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 6: speed up the process because we weren't funded, like how 286 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 6: folks talk about doing stuff where you just have millions 287 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 6: and sitting on cash. Like I remember this article came 288 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 6: out that was like Ryan Wilson opens three million dollar 289 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 6: private club, and it was it almost made me want 290 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 6: to cry because like we had no money when that 291 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 6: article came out, and we were truly I used to 292 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 6: call TK on Mondays and be like, y'all, how much 293 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 6: money do we need to make to make it to Friday? 294 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 6: And that was that was really how we lived and 295 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 6: how do you make it to writing? 296 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: So all right, so you raise the money, you open 297 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 4: a spot, but that's only half the battle because now 298 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: I'm assuming now you got to have staff, you got 299 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: to start to pay back the investors on a certain level, 300 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: or just have some revenue come in period. So now 301 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: what's the next step after that to actually build it 302 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 4: out and generate revenue. Was it to bring people in 303 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 4: as members first? 304 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 6: Or events? What would you do first? So there's three 305 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 6: parts of our business. So yeah, members are kind of 306 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 6: the core part of it, and then we have a 307 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 6: restaurant and bar, we have events, and so we still 308 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 6: do those three things to this day, but early on 309 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 6: it was trying to get good at all of those 310 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 6: things really fast, Like we didn't have any time to 311 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 6: sit and like this time was very painful, but it 312 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 6: taught us the fundamentals of the business in a way 313 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 6: that like nothing else can teach you. 314 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 4: I Mean, when you truly have. 315 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 6: People to your point, like on payroll and you're looking 316 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 6: at them and you're thinking about rent and growth trees 317 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 6: and like they're counting on you to figure out how 318 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 6: to make sure that every check clears, you start to 319 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 6: figure out ways to make money. And that was that 320 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 6: was our promise to one another. T K and I 321 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 6: were like, yo, if we can get the place built out, 322 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 6: we will do everything at that point to make sure 323 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 6: that we're successful. So like that that won't be the 324 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 6: reason why this doesn't work if we can just get open. 325 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 6: So once the door's open, that was game time to me. 326 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 6: And we talking to everybody. I mean I've been every 327 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 6: every building and office in the city. If you know 328 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 6: them in they're in the culture, I probably knocked on 329 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 6: their door at some point trying to figure out what 330 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 6: we could do corporations, events, anything we could do. 331 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: Is that the marketing plan, right, So obviously you have 332 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: to get members now, So the marketing plan is like, yo, 333 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: let's go knock on as many doors of people that 334 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: we know in the culture that's trying to do things 335 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: for people, or like, is there something else that you're doing. 336 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 6: I mean, we didn't have any money for ads or 337 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 6: any of that early on, so yeah, it was we 338 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 6: were talking I mean and whole stuff. So we would 339 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 6: be like, come to TGS and let's talk about you know, X, 340 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 6: Y and Z, and from there meet people and then 341 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 6: the same thing we did with the investors, do you 342 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 6: have anybody else that we should meet? And a lot 343 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 6: of son's supposed to be like yeah, you should meet 344 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 6: my man knows doing this and doing that, and I'd 345 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 6: be perfect, cool, what's that number, I'll call him? 346 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: And we did. 347 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 6: I mean it was like there was no money for 348 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 6: we weren't on radio, there was no I mean, we 349 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 6: were talking to people and posting whatever content. We didn't 350 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 6: run our first marketing anything until two years plus, and 351 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 6: by then people knew about the gathering spot. So there 352 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 6: wasn't any entrepreneurs that talk like that. But they're always like, 353 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 6: you know, I need money so I can get marketing, 354 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 6: and like, I hear you on one level, but you 355 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 6: can you can get your own stuff out if you 356 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 6: have to, depending on what it is. And that's the 357 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 6: first we took. 358 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 4: So as far as the membership, and so correct me 359 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: if I'm wrong. The membership for people that it's like 360 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: a coworking space. That's the people that pay memberships, right. 361 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 6: So in part, so you have access to the workspace, 362 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 6: to the restaurant and bar, and then we program a lot. 363 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 6: We host like thirty events a month that are specifically 364 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 6: for members of the club. What you are more getting 365 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 6: as a member is access to the network of other members. 366 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 6: And yeah, sure the ability to work, and sure the 367 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 6: ability to eat, but more of like the combined network. 368 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 6: I mean, the youngest member is twenty one, the oldest 369 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 6: is eighty eight. There's people that work for some of 370 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 6: the biggest companies in the city and people that are 371 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 6: starting their own businesses dope creatives, right, So, like, if 372 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 6: you think about it, if you're an entrepreneur and you're 373 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 6: trying to figure out how to be successful, meeting other 374 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 6: entrepreneurs is great, but like meeting some creatives is even better. 375 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 6: A lot of times meeting some people that work for 376 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 6: a lot of the other companies in town that could 377 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 6: be helpful. 378 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 4: So we're building that more than we're building like workspace. 379 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: So it's like a secret society exclusive. 380 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there's there's exclusivity to it, but it 381 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 6: for us is more about trying to make sure we 382 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 6: know everybody that's there so that I can introduce you 383 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 6: to whatever it is that you're looking for. So my 384 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 6: goal is when you come to our bar, that the 385 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 6: person on your left and your right are people that 386 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 6: you want to meet for some reason, whether that you 387 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 6: can do business with them or you just want to 388 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 6: know them socially. That's what our team is trying to build. 389 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 6: Towards each day, Like, how do I make sure no 390 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 6: matter when you pull up, both of the people are 391 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 6: folks that you want to talk to, and that's what 392 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 6: people are really like joining more than anything. 393 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 4: So how did you You said you didn't run ads 394 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 4: for the first two years and you've built a reputation 395 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: because I've heard about it in New York so obviously 396 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 4: you've done a good job with branding and you know, 397 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: so how did you do that? Like what was the 398 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 4: marketing plan if you wasn't spending any money on. 399 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 6: Ads putting out content? We were just social media, yeah, 400 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 6: I mean not paid stuff, but we would do stuff. 401 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 6: We would put it out on social and then I 402 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 6: mean that old school thing of really inviting people. We 403 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 6: looked at TVs as our home, and I was trying 404 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 6: to invite as many people into our house as possible, 405 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 6: certainly early on, so we were I mean legends in 406 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 6: this city that would partner with us on doing I 407 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 6: remember the dates of some of them, like August four, 408 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, got some legends Shaka and shout out to Chaka, 409 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 6: but Shaka zul brings Luducris and Natalie Emmanual talk about 410 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 6: fast eight tact house the mayor come Cassim was the 411 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 6: mayor that that time. Cassine comes to TGS for the 412 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 6: first time, and so TGS started to get out because 413 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 6: there were these moments that were happening that like you 414 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 6: really couldn't find anywhere else, and like conversations that were 415 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 6: happening that like there weren't to this day really don't 416 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 6: happen in a lot of places. 417 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, comment when we did avent in Atlanta, tell people 418 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 4: that was like you should check out that. Yeah, that's 419 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: what it should be at that's what Yeah, so next 420 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 4: time next year. 421 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: So with with membership comes pricing, right, and so how 422 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 3: did you figure out the sweet spot of pricing and 423 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: like what analytics did you use to come up with 424 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: a price that you felt like, you know what, this 425 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 3: is where we should be for members. 426 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 6: A lot of market research, so we would go to 427 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 6: some of the co working spots, but a lot. 428 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 4: Of the city clubs. 429 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 6: So the best conference TS is really the city club market, 430 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 6: not really co working spaces, And so we would go 431 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 6: to every city club. 432 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: And figure out where they were priced city club. 433 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 6: But yeah, so there's black folks historically have not been 434 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 6: invited into city like these they're basically country clubs without 435 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 6: the golf that they're around town. 436 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 4: Oh, that's like I think we think that we went 437 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 4: to the that's crazy. What was the name of that place, 438 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 4: so whole house. 439 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 6: So yeah, sohos are very well known. That on was 440 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 6: for creatives, and it's in a lot of different cities. 441 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 6: But there's even like old kind of stuffier. 442 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: Like the Yale Club in Manhattan, like when you hear 443 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: people say like good old boys Club, Like the good 444 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: old Boys Club is the city club or the country 445 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 4: club and a lot of cities, and so I would 446 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 4: study those spots and be like, what would it be 447 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 4: like to build one of those, but for the culture, 448 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: like where you could. 449 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 6: Come dress how like we want to dress and hear 450 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 6: music that we want to hear and see art that 451 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 6: we want to see. Like those were the kind of drivers, 452 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 6: and so we did research on how they were priced. 453 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 6: There was one in town when we first started, and 454 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 6: this is funny how things changed, but they were two 455 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 6: hundred dollars a month, and so we said, all right, 456 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 6: we're gonna be one eighty five, and we're gonna we're 457 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 6: gonna be open more than them. We're gonna have more 458 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 6: programs than them, And I remember people would be like 459 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 6: one eighty five, like they're two, you're new, how are you. 460 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 4: Gonna do that? 461 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 6: And we started growing and we eventually moved within like 462 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 6: six months, we moved up to two hundred dollars, which 463 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 6: is what it is now. And what's funny is that 464 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 6: they're like one seventy five now they've they've come the 465 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 6: opposite direction. And TGS is the most expensive city club 466 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 6: in Atlanta with black folks, and so there's a whole 467 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 6: bunch I could talk about in that, but it's either 468 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 6: one hundred dollars a month or two thousand dollars for 469 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 6: the year. It's how we're price. Everybody's on equal on 470 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 6: equal for them. 471 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 4: So that's interesting because yeah, now I have a better 472 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 4: perspective on it because youah, like the the Yale Club 473 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: in Manhattan and those, and you're right, it is exclusive 474 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 4: situation and a lot of wealthy people, businessmen that go there, 475 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 4: and it's not something that the average person probably knows 476 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 4: about and you only hear too much for like, you know, 477 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: our culture stuff like that. So to create that there's 478 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: still a reasonable price. Two hundred dollars a month, that's 479 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: a reasonable price, because a lot of those is like 480 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 4: a thousand dollars a month. 481 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 6: It's like crazy, I mean, like the country club. Country 482 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 6: clubs a country I mean eighty a year. Yeah, I 483 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 6: mean you could go eighty one hundred thousand just to 484 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 6: get into a country club. So we were never trying 485 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 6: to be anywhere near that. But yeah, to your point, 486 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 6: we've never been invited in any of those spots. 487 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: It's never. 488 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 6: It's two groups that we paid attention to is black 489 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 6: folks and women that have never been invited into the 490 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 6: country club city club experience. And so the club is 491 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 6: black and sixty percent of our membership base are women. 492 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 4: On purpose, how do you how do you engage the women? Like, 493 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 4: how'd you get the women engage more than men? 494 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 6: Black women lead everything first, So I mean, honestly, those 495 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 6: were the first folks that really just so supported supported 496 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 6: the business. I mean we were twenty four twenty five 497 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 6: depending on what we're talking about, and so it was 498 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 6: a lot of black women that you know, at the 499 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 6: top of their game in the city. 500 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 4: They were like, all right, I'm going to join and 501 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 4: be a member. 502 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 6: And then from there, I mean, we built our team 503 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 6: and just talked about how that was important to us. 504 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 6: I mean it still is. I never wanted that good 505 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 6: old boys club kind of talk to be affiliated with TCS. 506 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 6: And so the way that you avoid it is just 507 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 6: like it has always been harder to join the club 508 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 6: as a guy, and we prioritized making sure that women 509 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 6: were at. 510 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: The head of the experience. It's harder. 511 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 6: We just don't accept as many guys. Yeah, so you 512 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 6: have to be accepted in GOTA, you gottapply. What's the process? 513 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 6: So it starts online. You give us some general information 514 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 6: about you, but then there's an interview, so someone on 515 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 6: our team will get in contact with you and. 516 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: Ask you, yeah, about what you do. 517 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 6: But to be honest with you, if we don't care 518 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 6: so much about what you do on a day to day, 519 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 6: the most important question to us is like, and we 520 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 6: ask it this way, is what animate you outside of 521 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 6: the office. And the answer to that question matters because 522 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 6: we're not at TGS like trying. 523 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 4: To be stuffy for stuffy's sake. 524 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 6: It's ain't about you know, self congratulating each other and 525 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 6: just sitting around looking at each other, but about being 526 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 6: specific about knowing who's there so that you can get 527 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 6: work done. 528 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: Quality Control we actually we had a we went there. 529 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: Ash Cash, you know him, absolutely, he's a member. We 530 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 4: met him. We met him there the last the last time. 531 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: It was a sorority having an event there. As we 532 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,959 Speaker 4: pulled in. Yeah for sure, good brother. Yes, that's all 533 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 4: got So all right, we're in Atlanta. This is the 534 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 4: home of black excellent influencers, all of that. So you 535 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: talked about Ludacris. How important is it to tap in 536 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: with the influencers, entertainers, athletes out here and how has 537 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 4: how like valuable is that as far as like a 538 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 4: stamp of a celebrity coming in And I was. 539 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: Looking at the names on the wall when I got there, 540 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that's Cam Newing. 541 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: It's like black Hollywood. 542 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you'll see, you'll see. And it's said 543 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 6: all over time. But there's a really dope company that 544 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 6: has some shirts that say Atlanta influences everything, And to me, 545 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 6: it really does, because more than anything, the thing that 546 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 6: we export and send all over the world is our culture. 547 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 6: You could go anywhere in the world now and people 548 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 6: know and have heard stuff that's come out of this city. 549 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 4: So things have changed. 550 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: They used to be us in New York. 551 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: Atlanta had it for the last twenty years. 552 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm giving it to Atlanta, but it's a fact. 553 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 6: I'm biased, but I mean it really is a fact. 554 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 6: You can go anywhere and people people know this sound, 555 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 6: they know they know the culture that it is made here. 556 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 6: And so yeah, it was it was very important to 557 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 6: make sure that the club not only like opened our 558 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 6: doors to make sure that it was like the culture 559 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 6: was invited and was building the experience with us, but 560 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 6: to get to other cities. We didn't think that was 561 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 6: possible if TGS wasn't understood as being kind of one 562 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 6: of the places where, no matter what we're talking about 563 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 6: is music or sports or whatever, that that community felt 564 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 6: at home at. 565 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: So I mean, so. 566 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: The littlecus event, you said that the mayor came, and 567 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: so I'm thinking to myself, because I've seen the level 568 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: of politicians that I've come to the gathering spot, right, 569 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 3: we had ambassadors for young Stacy Abrams. I think I 570 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 3: believe I've read you have President Biden. 571 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 2: Have show up. 572 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 3: So how did that come about? Was it because the 573 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: mayor came? And now it was like, wait, politician is insane, 574 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: Like this is an audience we need to tap into. 575 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a couple of things. 576 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 6: One of the things that's cool about Atlanta is that 577 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 6: we know each other across industry lines here, so it's 578 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 6: not weird to be in politics and know an artist. 579 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 6: But I mean another thing is that, I mean we're 580 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 6: very politically active, and it happened the entire time. 581 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: I mean the world. You put the world on notice. 582 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 6: For me, it never made sense to be neutral about politics, 583 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 6: so we were never Now y'all have some businesses are 584 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 6: I don't get into politics or I don't have an 585 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 6: opinion about that, and like really everybody does. 586 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 4: I will tell you, like who. 587 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 6: We're supporting and why we're supporting them, and we will 588 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 6: work to try to get those people elected. And so yeah, 589 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 6: I mean both on a local level, but then all 590 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 6: the way through. I mean we've had President Biden on 591 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 6: a couple of occasions, We've had Vice President Harris on 592 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 6: a couple of occasions, and that's all because I mean 593 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 6: we're very active in trying to make sure the folks 594 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 6: were voting and understood what was at stake in all 595 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 6: the I mean, it's not just this last election cycle 596 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 6: since we've been open. 597 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 4: So let me ask you this as far as COVID 598 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 4: nineteen right when brick and martar businesses is closing left 599 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 4: and right. Not only do you have a brick and 600 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 4: martar business, you have a gathering spot literally business. So 601 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 4: that's like even crazier, like you know what I'm saying, 602 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: to be able to survive like in this climate. Atlanta 603 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 4: is a little different because regulations aren't aren't the same. 604 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: That was that was that was very nice to you. 605 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: A little different. 606 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: So the first thing I want to ask is how 607 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 4: you survived that. But the next two locations are in 608 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: states where it's completely different from Atlanta, well, District of 609 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 4: Columbia and LA which are democratic, you know, territories, strict lockdowns. 610 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 4: It's not the same. So how have you been able 611 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: to manage during COVID and welding those two locations out 612 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 4: in different parts? What are your thoughts? Are you a 613 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 4: little nervous about that or what's your thoughts on that? 614 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 6: I'm not really nervous though, because the core focus of 615 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 6: our team is really not about space. I mean, I 616 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 6: know that that sounds. We have a lot of space. 617 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 6: I mean it's the club in Atlanta's twenty five thousand 618 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 6: square feet, so it's not that we take little spaces, 619 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 6: but the focus of our team each day is really 620 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 6: about people, right, and so COVID can't change that interest, right, 621 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 6: connecting people is I remember we had a meeting early 622 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 6: on after we had closed, and I was trying to 623 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 6: tell our teams, like, look, this is definitely unprecedented. We've 624 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 6: never been in a situation like this before. But the 625 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 6: setting is going to change the mission of why we 626 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 6: do this every day. That's not changing at all, right, Like, 627 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 6: this has always been about connecting people by trying to 628 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 6: create experiences. So we're going to create them online or 629 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 6: whatever way are the safest way to do it given 630 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 6: the times. But why we are doing this each day 631 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: is not going to shift. And so even when it 632 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 6: got hard, that's what we would tell ourselves. As cliche 633 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 6: as that sounds to a certain extent, I just refuse 634 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 6: to have COVID be the thing that couldn't be. So 635 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 6: much it happened at TGS, I was not like COVID 636 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 6: couldn't be the thing that was going to kill it, 637 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 6: especially when like again, I've never woken up in the 638 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 6: morning and been like, man, I wonder how the workspace, 639 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 6: like how we're going to build a better workspace. Like 640 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 6: that's just I'm thinking about how can we get this 641 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 6: person to come and speak, or how can I make 642 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 6: sure that these two people know each other, or like, 643 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 6: how can we explore this topic to make sure folks 644 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 6: are informed. COVID doesn't touch any of that. And so 645 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 6: DC and LA and really any other city that we're 646 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 6: looking at, I think the fundamentals of building community that 647 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 6: doesn't change no matter where it is that we go, 648 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 6: and that's what I'm still focused on. It'll feel different, 649 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 6: it'll look different. DC has a very different culture than Atlanta, 650 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 6: but it's still about community and so there's thankfully there's 651 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 6: a very large group of members in DC right now, 652 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 6: and we really haven't been fully open in DC. 653 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 4: Do you feel like that the future of even community 654 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 4: may change, Like we see apps like Clubhouse where eventually 655 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 4: really clubhouse is just a networking event on telephone. So 656 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 4: do you think that potentially us as humans may change 657 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 4: the way that we interact with people and not actually 658 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: interact with people face to face anymore. 659 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 6: Nah, So this is where I'm old school. I think 660 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 6: that I think there's certain things that are just fundamental. 661 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 6: You can LinkedIn me D and ME all you want to, 662 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 6: but eventually, I'm gonna ask you to come meet me 663 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 6: somewhere if we really are friends, if we're really like, 664 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 6: I'm going to ask you to meet me somewhere, and 665 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 6: I mean you here. All the time people talk about 666 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 6: zoom fatigue, and I can't do another zoom Like that's 667 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 6: because at the end of the day, like we still 668 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 6: want to see each other at a point time, Like 669 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 6: we could have done this conversation on a computer. 670 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: It doesn't have the same field to it. 671 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 6: And so no, I think that folks that talk about 672 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 6: stuff changing in that way are going way too far. 673 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: Like during the process, did you build out TGS online 674 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: like I was being somewhere, you created an online environment. 675 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, we were fortunate that we built out an online 676 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 6: platform that rolled out in October of twenty nineteen, So 677 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 6: going into COVID, we already had a lot of content 678 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 6: on the site, so that wasn't a major pivot. We 679 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 6: just did more stuff well focus on online, yeah, I mean, 680 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 6: but it was already there. It was weird, like for 681 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 6: years we didn't have that, and then we made the 682 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 6: decision to make sure it was really driven by like 683 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 6: people would live like an Alpharetta and want to see program, 684 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 6: but that just didn't want to drive the TGS on 685 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 6: a given night. So we were recording this stuff and 686 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 6: just putting it on this platform, and it worked out 687 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 6: that when. 688 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 4: COVID hit, we had all that stuff. 689 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 6: Plus I mean when we do we filmed like ten 690 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 6: conversations a week at TGS, so like it was so 691 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 6: you sell those, so it just is included in your 692 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 6: own membership. Okay, if you remember, you can watch whatever 693 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 6: we've ever done. 694 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 4: Do you have any plans of doing events like virtual 695 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 4: events like stuff that if you're not a member's everything 696 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 4: exclusive just for members. Everything's for members. Do you have 697 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: any plans on doing things for other people that's not members? 698 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 4: So we. 699 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 6: Anything that is about like social justice or political engagement, 700 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 6: we opened that stuff up. So I mean during the 701 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 6: summer when there was a lot of protests here, we 702 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 6: opened our doors up to any protester or any organizer 703 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 6: in the city that needed a space to organize. But 704 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 6: then we've also opened up conversations, So I mean even 705 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 6: as recently as last week, we had conversation about violence 706 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 6: in Atlanta, and you don't have to be a member 707 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 6: to watch that conversation. We just think it's important and 708 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 6: so yeah, I mean that's probably the one exception to 709 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 6: the membership piece if we just think it's something that 710 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 6: the community needs to know. 711 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 4: But I would think, like even from a modernization standpoint, 712 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 4: because like online summers is big right now, even regular 713 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 4: summers pot and it's like, you know, it might be 714 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 4: another revenue stream. It could be for us. 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What changed for 750 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 7: the team today? 751 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 4: It was the new game day. 752 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 6: Scratches from the California lottery players everything. 753 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 4: Those games sent the team's energy through the roof. 754 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 7: Are you saying it was the off field play that 755 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 7: made the difference on the field. 756 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 6: Hey, little play makes your day, and today it made 757 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 6: the game. 758 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 4: That's off for now, coach one more question. 759 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 7: Play than new Los Angeles Chargers, San Francisco forty nine 760 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 7: ers and Los Angeles Rams scratchers from the California Lottery. 761 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 7: A little play can make your day. Peace, pay responsibly. 762 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 7: Must be eighteen years or older to purchase plate or. 763 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 6: Claim from music conference and festival down here called A 764 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 6: three C. There so a lot more of the efforts 765 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 6: in terms of monetizing content and all that have been 766 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 6: on the A three C side unless about TGS. 767 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 2: So A three C existed before you didn't You didn't 768 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 2: create it? 769 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 6: No, no, no, we we bought it A three C. 770 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 6: This past year was year sixteen. It's been going for 771 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 6: a minute. 772 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard about it. I've heard about it. 773 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 4: I think I went to there, we go there one 774 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 4: music festival, one music So all right, so let's talk 775 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 4: about that. Then that's interesting. So how did how did 776 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 4: this come about? As far as is a C three 777 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 4: A three C three C conference how did that? How 778 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 4: did that come about? And how did how do you 779 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 4: acquire a music festival? Haws that? 780 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 6: So I'm on a panel with an entrepreneur uh named 781 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 6: Paul Judge after Paul J. 782 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we gotta get him. 783 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's another one that just keeps slipping. 784 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 6: I will, I'll try to see if I could I 785 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 6: can help with that. So I'm on a panel with 786 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 6: with with Paul Paul coach k at this at twenty 787 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 6: eighteen at A three C. And I didn't really know 788 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 6: Paul that well, and it was it was interesting like 789 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 6: we I mean, we knew of one another and been 790 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,479 Speaker 6: to He's been to all of his his businesses around 791 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 6: the time. Make a long story short, I learned that 792 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 6: the business was coming up for sale. And what was 793 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 6: interesting about A three C is that it was not 794 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 6: owned by the culture. 795 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 4: Four white guys owned A three C. 796 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 6: Wow, and I had no plans of buying it, but 797 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 6: heard that the company was thinking about selling and we 798 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 6: just started talking about like this is Atlanta. We talked 799 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 6: about this is a home of culture in many ways, 800 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 6: what is it like to have like a major conference 801 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 6: really be owned by the culture too. And we spent 802 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 6: the last half of twenty eighteen. Someone twenty nineteen to 803 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 6: buy the company and produced the twenty nineteen version. A 804 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 6: three C happens every October, so we produced the twenty 805 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 6: nineteen version. 806 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 2: That was what nas was the feature on that one. 807 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 6: That was the year before okay thing our headliners were 808 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 6: on the music side, Megan the Stallion, most depth was 809 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 6: on it. I'm trying to remember everybody there who was performed. 810 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 6: There was like twenty different concerts. But then Dapper Dam 811 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 6: was the keynote that year. There was a lot of people. 812 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 4: Spoke, so it's like a Southwest Southwestern. 813 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's it's conference and music. So music at night. 814 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: Is it held at the gathering spot or was it 815 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: spread out throughout there? 816 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 5: Yeah? 817 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 4: No, the it's a through C is too big. 818 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 6: I mean there was there was outdoor only seven thousand 819 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 6: people or something at A three twenty nineteen, but it's 820 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 6: indoor at America's Mark downtown and then at music venues all. 821 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 4: Across the city. So that's how it's like south By. 822 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 4: So you didn't do it this year, all virtual this year, 823 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 4: but what's your plans forward? Moving forward? 824 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 6: So it's in October every year, so we feel good 825 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 6: about how it. Yeah, we feel good about being able 826 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 6: to get back in person by then in close contact 827 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 6: with all of the event, big event kind of planners 828 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 6: in town, and everybody feels pretty good about October. 829 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 4: So our plan is to be back in person. So 830 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 4: how is that? Because you ever heard of curl Fest. 831 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 4: We interviewed some people. Yeah, we grew up with on 832 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 4: shide out to someone. We interviewed her and she was 833 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 4: telling us about putting together a festival. That's the first 834 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 4: person that we really interviewed that had something to that scale. 835 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 4: They have like thirty thousand people that come to that. 836 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 4: But this is music and you said, like fashion and 837 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 4: tech and all of that stuff. So what is the 838 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 4: undertakings of putting this together? Like how long does it take? 839 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 2: Planning? 840 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like if y'all would. 841 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 6: Have told me how much somebody would have told me 842 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 6: how much it takes, it's a lot. I mean it's 843 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 6: a lot of planning. I mean we hosted just shows. 844 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 6: I mean there were seven like primary shows our year 845 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 6: that the first year we did it, and then conversations. 846 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 6: I don't I can't even tell you. I mean it's 847 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 6: a lot. I mean there's like hundreds of speakers, by 848 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,479 Speaker 6: the time is all over, it's a lot you really 849 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 6: worth it financially because I seem like I think she 850 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,959 Speaker 6: was telling us crow fests like a million dollars something 851 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 6: like that put together. Yeah, it caused more than that 852 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,240 Speaker 6: to produce, but your thing is probably more evolved. 853 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 4: So it's like, I mean, you make money I'm assuming 854 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 4: off of sponsorships and ticket sales, but is it really 855 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 4: financially worth it? Yeah? 856 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 6: No, I mean it certainly can be. I mean I 857 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 6: look at I mean, the A three C's existed for 858 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 6: a while, but we are rebuilding parts of the model 859 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 6: and building new relationships to help scale, especially on a 860 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 6: partnership up front, and it definitely can be. I mean, 861 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 6: if you look at some of the big conferences and 862 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 6: festivals that happen when you get to scale and you 863 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 6: have top tier partners, it makes a lot of sense. 864 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 6: But I mean, to be honest with you, the motivation 865 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 6: for A three C and it's acquired, it was more 866 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 6: about trying to to make sure that the it was 867 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 6: just owned by the culture. And I mean it wasn't 868 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 6: a bad it wasn't a bad business by any stretch, 869 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 6: but I can't say that the motivation was to you know, 870 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,959 Speaker 6: retire off of a three C either. 871 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 3: So all the local companies I'm talking like the big 872 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 3: companies here in Atlanta, are they allies in this in 873 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 3: this in this deal as far as sponsorships like Coca 874 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 3: Cola and Turner of the Dead. 875 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Atlanta has the third highest concentration of 876 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 6: fortune five hundred headquarters in the country. So you got 877 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 6: a lot of businesses in town that that you know, 878 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 6: through their brands, interact. 879 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 4: With the stuff that we build. 880 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 6: So yeah, Coke, Uh, you got all the airlines here, 881 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 6: you got spots like home Depot. There's definitely like a 882 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 6: great city to have those conversations. Yeah, because thinking I mean, 883 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 6: there's all the banks here. 884 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: I heard you said that, you know, there's a lot 885 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 3: of disparity here in the city. And the one thing 886 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 3: you're going to start doing is measuring allyship by activity. 887 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, that's powerful. 888 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 3: So like, is this one way or what are some 889 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 3: other ways that you make You're going to make sure 890 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 3: that that happens. 891 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:09,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 892 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 6: I mean I think that this moment requires us to 893 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 6: really push beyond conversation. I mean, for as much as 894 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 6: as I love Atlanta, there are some challenges here about 895 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 6: making sure that everybody in Atlanta is going to be 896 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 6: able to participate in the future growth of the city, 897 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 6: and historically we've not done a good job of doing that. 898 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 6: I mean, right next door to the gathering spot, the 899 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 6: next neighborhood over the median income is twenty. 900 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 4: Eight thousand dollars. 901 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 6: So to have that community be right next to a 902 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 6: multi billion dollar stadium and the headquarters of one of 903 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,920 Speaker 6: the biggest businesses in the world that actually cast a 904 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 6: shadow on those communities. We got to have active conversation 905 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 6: about that leads to money, frankly, like being spent, Like 906 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 6: we have to have investment in our community ways we 907 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 6: haven't seen here. So yeah, I'm not I'm not well 908 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 6: wishes and you know, having nice thoughts about black folks, 909 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 6: which I think we saw a lot of last year, 910 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 6: is cool, But at the end of the day, it's 911 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 6: going to be about who actually put some resources into 912 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 6: the community in a way that moves the needle we 913 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 6: we needed at this point. If if the city is 914 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 6: going to be a place frankly that everybody wants to 915 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 6: live in, but certainly if black folks won't live in. 916 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 4: So the expansion as far as your first model obviously 917 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 4: was to get private investors give up some equity. Did 918 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 4: you do that the same with the l A and 919 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 4: DC operation. 920 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 6: We raised We raised UH one more round to to 921 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 6: continue to expand and yeah, still no no debt in 922 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 6: the business, but we've taken in more equity and that 923 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,479 Speaker 6: that's been the way that we've decided is the best 924 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 6: way to grow to grow because in addition to the 925 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 6: you know, this is a a big topic because you'll 926 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 6: have some people say, you know, I don't want to 927 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 6: give up anything in mind, Yeah, that's not how I 928 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 6: feel about it. To me, if you can have strategic 929 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 6: investors that can help you accomplish those goals, almost partners, 930 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 6: then it actually becomes really worth it. And I would 931 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 6: rather own a smaller percentage of something that's way bigger 932 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 6: than sitting here or hoarding all this equity that doesn't 933 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 6: mean anything. So I don't take the approach of saying, 934 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 6: you know, don't sell parts of the company. If it 935 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 6: makes sense to do so and it will help you scale, 936 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 6: then I think that you and you should do it. 937 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 4: Are you careful who you work like? Do you just 938 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 4: I'm sure you're not accepting anybody's money. But it's like 939 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 4: that can also be a headache too, if you got 940 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 4: somebody that's constantly calling you and they micro managing everything. 941 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 4: So it's like a marriage, okay, Like I look at it, 942 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 4: like do I want to be married to you? Truly? 943 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 6: Like my test is when I look at my phone 944 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 6: and your name comes across my phone, like if it 945 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 6: makes me sad to see your name at any point, 946 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 6: I don't want you to be an investor in the company, 947 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 6: because that truly is like the test, because you really 948 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 6: are with those people for forever. So if you don't 949 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 6: want to get married to the investor, don't have them 950 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 6: in the business because they will like annoy you. 951 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 4: It is not even a good. 952 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 6: Enough word, like you really behold it, like really, like 953 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 6: y'all are in this thing together at that point. And 954 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 6: if you think as soon as you get their check 955 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 6: that you can ignore them, or you think that they're 956 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 6: going to give you a check and ignore you, that's 957 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 6: not how that works. So you have to make sure 958 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 6: that it's a person that you really want to work with. 959 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 4: So all the decisions made by a collective. 960 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 6: No, so I mean the t can I manage the 961 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 6: business day to day? There's a board that we meet 962 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 6: with it, you can almost think of it from an 963 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 6: advisory perspective. 964 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 4: We bring them questions or talk about that because like 965 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 4: for young entrepreneurs that might you know, they might be 966 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 4: getting information from you and kind of you know, getting 967 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 4: this mentorship, how did that go about as far as 968 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 4: like putting together a board and like what is your 969 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 4: level of governance as far as that's concerned. Now that 970 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 4: you have outside money as well. 971 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 6: So we have control of the business, so the it 972 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 6: doesn't necessarily mean that just because you give a person 973 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 6: a part of the company that they that they then 974 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 6: have equals say and what happens in the company day 975 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 6: to day. So we manage the company day to day 976 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 6: with actually very little involvement, and that's part of the 977 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 6: We were looking for investors that really believed in our 978 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 6: ability to do that, and so it starts there. But 979 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 6: then when you start thinking about a board, I almost 980 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 6: look at it like building a team. 981 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 4: You need a you need a. 982 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 6: Point guard, you need to you need somebody to hold 983 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 6: down the paint and who is who can fill those 984 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,240 Speaker 6: roles to make sure that Like Okay, so real estate, 985 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 6: for example, is a blind spot for us. I don't 986 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 6: come out of that world. TK really doesn't either. We 987 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 6: have somebody on our board there like has rolled out 988 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 6: hundreds of locations. So going into a board meeting and 989 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 6: being able to say, hey, like this is this is 990 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 6: all of the information that we have about a site. 991 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 6: How do you feel about that? Just hearing their thoughts 992 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 6: helps us to develop better thoughts and a better process 993 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,240 Speaker 6: for how we stuff. 994 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 4: So, like you are as. 995 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 6: An entrepreneur, the group of people that are kind of 996 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 6: around the business as investors, but then also on your 997 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 6: team if you don't see it that way. 998 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 3: So that's the process of choosing where you're going to 999 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 3: be put the next location. So obviously you have the 1000 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 3: idea you drew up division, you go to the real 1001 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 3: estate guy, Hey, what do you think about the spot 1002 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 3: in DC? 1003 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 2: What do you think about this spot in LA? The 1004 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 2: other cities is New York, is Houston? 1005 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've looked everywhere, Houston, New York, Dallas, Detroit, We've 1006 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 6: looked every everywhere. And we have investors too that are 1007 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 6: from or live in a lot of these cities, which 1008 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 6: makes things help for a minutes. 1009 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 4: So if you look at like l A. 1010 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,439 Speaker 6: Baron Davis is an investor, Uh, Lou Williams is from 1011 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 6: here but lives lives you know, lives in the Clippers. 1012 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 4: He's an investor too, He's an investor. 1013 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 6: You look at Detroit, Big Shawn's an investor if you 1014 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 6: look at I mean like most cities. So we had 1015 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 6: a we had a strategic approach to as we thought 1016 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 6: about cities that we wanted to go to, who were 1017 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 6: people from or like that knew that city that could 1018 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 6: help us to understand the city better. 1019 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 4: So two questions, how many people is on your board? 1020 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 2: Five? 1021 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 4: It's just five people. Five people, okay, and each person 1022 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 4: just has an expertise and something that they can bring 1023 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 4: them valuable. All right, how did you find all of 1024 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 4: these big name celebrities now, like the big Seawans of 1025 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,439 Speaker 4: the world, the Baron Davis's of the world. Like, how 1026 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 4: do you have an active campaign to reach out to 1027 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 4: celebrities to invest Like, what's the deal with that? 1028 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 5: No? 1029 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 4: I mean that to me. 1030 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 6: I operate with the simple principle that like, good people 1031 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 6: know good people, and you never you never know who 1032 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 6: exactly you're talking to. So someone I didn't name who's 1033 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 6: an investor in the business is cam Newton. And we 1034 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 6: have known one of his advisors for years, and it 1035 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 6: was never about business. 1036 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 4: We were just cool. 1037 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 6: But one one day I was talking to him about 1038 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 6: us raised in another round and he said, hey, I'd 1039 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 6: be interested and showing it to our group and he 1040 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 6: did same same thing Will Packers an investor in TGS, 1041 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 6: same conversation where I'm very very good friends with his 1042 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 6: right hand and she said, well you should, you should 1043 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 6: take a look at this deal. 1044 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 4: So it's playing. 1045 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 6: The long game and developing relationships and inside of the 1046 00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 6: black community. Honestly, it's not like it's not that it's 1047 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 6: the small world. You know, if you're closing in on everybody, 1048 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 6: you're not as far away from anybody, not really, And 1049 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 6: to be honest with you, like, it's really not so 1050 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,439 Speaker 6: much about depending who we're talking about the person, as 1051 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 6: it is the team of people, the business manager, the 1052 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 6: person that they consult on a regular basis for advice 1053 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 6: that you really need to be trying to get in 1054 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 6: contact with. I think that's a big mistake a lot 1055 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 6: of folks makers that they'll be like, I need to 1056 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 6: talk to Will Packer, and you do need to talk 1057 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 6: to Will Packer. Like Will Packer's not going to write 1058 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 6: to a check and Will Packer doesn't know you, but 1059 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 6: he also needs to like if you the way that 1060 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,879 Speaker 6: you were introduced, and having his team also feel good 1061 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 6: about the deal, his board, you know, and not not 1062 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 6: formally in the same way, but. 1063 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 4: Like financial advised accountar. 1064 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, the people that just having them feel good about it, 1065 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 6: it's helpful. So we talk to those folks as much 1066 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 6: as we talk to the people who you might know. 1067 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 4: Center of influence. 1068 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 3: So after the interview process to become a member or 1069 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 3: become an investor, there a certain level amount of capital 1070 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 3: that I need to have in order to be an investor. 1071 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 6: So I mean the rounds have changed over time. So 1072 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,240 Speaker 6: the first round was three million, and at that point 1073 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 6: this is actually a very important conversation. A lot of 1074 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 6: entrepreneurs get their cap tables jacked up really early by 1075 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,439 Speaker 6: taking very very small increments of money. 1076 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 4: You talk about that cap table. What is that? 1077 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,399 Speaker 6: So cap table is just the it's just the list 1078 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 6: of the names and how much those names own in 1079 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 6: the business. 1080 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 4: And you want to. 1081 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 6: Make sure it's like it's okay to have other people 1082 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 6: on your cap table, but you want to make sure 1083 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 6: that there's there's a strategy to it. 1084 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 4: To the extent that you can. 1085 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 6: So if you need a million dollars to start your business, 1086 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 6: doing that five thousand dollars at a time. 1087 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:49,720 Speaker 4: Is really difficult. 1088 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 6: And then if you go out for future rounds, that 1089 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,240 Speaker 6: next person is going to pull up your cap table 1090 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 6: and it's going to be like, like, who are aren't 1091 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 6: trying to who are these one hundred people I gotta 1092 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 6: I have to deal with? And like what are their 1093 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 6: rights and responsibilities to the business. And so it is 1094 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 6: important to the extent that you can to stay very 1095 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 6: disciplined in trying to set minimum thresholds and say, okay, look, 1096 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 6: I'm raising a million, and it's one hundred thousand dollars 1097 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 6: minimum for folks to be in the round, right, Because 1098 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 6: at that point it's you're insignificantly enough and like there 1099 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 6: are things that can be done on through other structures 1100 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 6: for people to pull that hundred together, but for you, 1101 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 6: as the entrepreneur, it only comes in as one single entry, 1102 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 6: and that's important. So like I could be like, yo, 1103 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 6: I need I need a hundred thousand minimum, and then 1104 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 6: y'all could go talk in a huddle on the side 1105 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,399 Speaker 6: and go seventy five to twenty five. If you want 1106 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 6: to and create a company and then have that company 1107 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 6: invest in TGS, but I would only recognize it as 1108 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 6: one single it would only be one entry on the 1109 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 6: Captuart And I think, again, that's important. So you have 1110 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 6: to stay disciplined there. 1111 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 4: I get it. 1112 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 6: Like there were times where I'm telling you, folst would 1113 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 6: be like, I'll give you ten thousand, and I'd be 1114 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 6: like that ten thousand would be But then I would 1115 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 6: look at like what we needed to get accomplished. I'm like, no, 1116 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,800 Speaker 6: ten thousand won't even build a bathroom, Like so we can't. 1117 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,279 Speaker 6: It's not as helpful as what it feels like in 1118 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 6: the short term. When I would take that money, I 1119 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 6: would have spent it the next day and I wouldn't 1120 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 6: even have had a working toilet and sink. We're like, 1121 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 6: it just takes a lot of money to do our business. 1122 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 6: So the first round started there started pretty high. Yeah, 1123 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,879 Speaker 6: first round, the first round it was the first round 1124 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 6: was three. We weren't taking less than one hundred. 1125 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 4: So the equity crowdfund you're not a fan of, I'm assuming. 1126 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 6: So it depends on what you're building. I mean, there's 1127 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 6: some dope entrepreneurs down here that have done it well. 1128 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 6: Isaac Hayes one of my friends. He just is two 1129 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 6: point six million on a crowdfund. And the thing about 1130 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 6: the crowdfund is that the rights that shareholders have in 1131 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 6: that arrangement are not overly burdened to them to the entrepreneur. 1132 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 6: So like, yeah, you have a million investors, but like 1133 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 6: each one of those investors' ability to actually talk to 1134 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,720 Speaker 6: you as the entrepreneur is very limited in that structure. 1135 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 6: So I don't have a problem with it. Depending on 1136 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 6: what you're building, it's dope. Like I mean, he's got 1137 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 6: he's got thousands of people who are investors in this company. 1138 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 4: I think it could become a headache though, when you're 1139 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,799 Speaker 4: trying to manage expectations of people, especially if they have 1140 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 4: investment and they're looking for, you know, some level of 1141 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 4: return on the investment. It's like a one thousand, ten 1142 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 4: thousand people. Even if it's a hundred, that's only like 1143 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 4: one percent, but one hundred focal people, yeah, a lot. 1144 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 6: You know, Look, it's not the route that we've chosen 1145 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 6: to go down, and it's honestly just getting to a 1146 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 6: point where you can raise that type of money on crowdfunds. 1147 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 6: I mean, historically you couldn't go get a million dollars 1148 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 6: on the crowd. 1149 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 4: Obama changed that. Lord, I believe. 1150 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 6: That all the changes to those regulations were huge to 1151 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 6: to open that up. But that isn't how we've decided 1152 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 6: to grow. I mean, we're very I mean we're going 1153 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 6: to LA. Will Packer is a monster in LA made 1154 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 6: some of the biggest movies of our time, and so 1155 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 6: there's not a better person that I know of that 1156 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 6: could help us really understand, especially being from Atlanta. 1157 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 4: That's that's that's him. 1158 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 6: He's based in Atlanta but has an office in LA 1159 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 6: does business in LA. So our round was was strategic 1160 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 6: from like a location standpoint and a lot in a 1161 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,280 Speaker 6: way a lot of businesses probably. 1162 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 4: Aren't in LA is one of these places like Atlanta 1163 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 4: where it could be like huge, but like you know, 1164 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 4: the in crowd, celebrities and entrepreneurs and all of that. 1165 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, but to be honest with you, like 1166 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,319 Speaker 6: we're not chasing that every day. It's about trying to 1167 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 6: figure out how do you put that person that you 1168 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,919 Speaker 6: may know next to the tech entrepreneur who you've never 1169 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 6: heard of, and watching what they can do together. Like 1170 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 6: I'm more interested in that than just being in a 1171 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 6: room with somebody and being like, you see that person 1172 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,959 Speaker 6: over there, Like that doesn't that doesn't make our business. 1173 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 6: Gotta go back to the mission of while we're trying 1174 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 6: to do this, the mission was never about being in 1175 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 6: a room and being. 1176 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 4: Able to spot people. 1177 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 6: It was about trying to figure out what happens when 1178 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 6: they can meet the person on the other side of 1179 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 6: the room or frankly that they would have never ever 1180 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 6: met before. Is where things get powerful, and we don't 1181 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 6: do that enough in our communities. Like the music people 1182 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 6: know the music people, and the film people know the 1183 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 6: film people. 1184 00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 4: But like you know, when the film people meet the 1185 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 4: tech people and the tech people. 1186 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 6: Meet the big business corporate people, stuff starts to open 1187 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 6: up opportunity. I mean, there's a member, he goes to 1188 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 6: new member orientation. It's a doubt company making music. Count 1189 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 6: goes a new member orientation and he meets an executive 1190 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 6: at Turner and they strike up a conversation. A year later, 1191 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 6: they announced a deal between his company and Cartoon Network 1192 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 6: just because they went to a new member orientation. I'm 1193 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 6: looking for that type. 1194 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 3: Of stuff because I feel like the only other place 1195 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 3: you would get that is that like a once a 1196 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 3: year conference or a once a year summit. 1197 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 2: It's kind of like you've done that on a daily 1198 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 2: basis with these memberships. 1199 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 6: Even the conference that you it depends, man, because some 1200 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 6: conferences it's like, yo, it's for the music people. 1201 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 2: Right right. They're more specific to one thing. 1202 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 6: So I'm not saying that you can't make good relationships 1203 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 6: at the music conference. I mean, yeah, if you're an 1204 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 6: artist and you meet a producer, like that could be 1205 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 6: a dope collaboration. We just zoomed out a little bit 1206 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 6: more than that and have said, Okay, you're an artist, 1207 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 6: here's a tech founder, here's an engineer. 1208 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, and that's why it works when you're doing this. 1209 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 4: Do you have anything that's structured to like, because a 1210 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 4: lot of time for networking it's like double Dutch and 1211 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 4: it's like awkward just walk up to somebody randomly. So 1212 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 4: do you have like a thing like you know, you 1213 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 4: know Dave Change, You heard of him. He has a 1214 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 4: thing where he he's like a speed networking thing where 1215 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 4: you it's like he matches people up and it's like 1216 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 4: kind of forces you. Yeah, have you done anything like that? 1217 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 6: We've done events like that, But honestly, our approach to 1218 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 6: it is why we do an event almost every day, 1219 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 6: is that we're creating opportunities for those collisions that happen 1220 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 6: through the programs. So business doesn't always look like business 1221 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 6: when you when you walk into a room, and I 1222 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 6: think some of the best collaborations are not when we're 1223 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 6: there to exchange business cards and to learn about your 1224 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 6: like like for me that like a lot of times 1225 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 6: that starts to get it's a little weird, like we 1226 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 6: we don't do it that much. It's more of and honestly, 1227 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 6: there's not even a lot of business cards changed inside 1228 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 6: of tgs. It's more of like you're at the bar, 1229 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 6: what do you what do you? Yeah, like what do 1230 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 6: you do? And sometimes that person will be like, it's 1231 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 6: not not actually me that you want to know, but 1232 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 6: like I know that member over there and you definitely 1233 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 6: should talk to them. And so through through having different 1234 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 6: things happening, it's how people meet each other. So sometimes 1235 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 6: that's live music. Sometimes we host a lot of fireside 1236 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 6: chats and like kind of like interview style things. Sometimes 1237 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,320 Speaker 6: it's workshops on how to learn more about a particular industry, 1238 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 6: and that's where you start to like have the collisions. 1239 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 6: That makes sense, but it's not as forced. I don't 1240 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 6: even like for what I do. I don't even have 1241 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 6: business cards. If you ask me for my card, I'm like, 1242 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 6: I don't. 1243 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean help you. Relationships is one of 1244 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 4: the most important. Is one of the things like even 1245 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 4: we learned with just having this platform, almost ninety percent 1246 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 4: of everything. We don't have a pr person everything that comes. 1247 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 4: So like we got Marek Cuban, but that's from a 1248 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 4: relationship that we had with Al Harrington. 1249 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1250 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,680 Speaker 4: I actually knew Al Harrington fifteen years ago in prep school. 1251 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 4: So it's like these little things of like Dame Dash 1252 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 4: or somebody that we always wanted to get. We got 1253 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 4: Dame courtesy of Kenny Burns. Got Kenny Burns courtesy of 1254 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 4: our god Dave at United Mastis yep. So I don't 1255 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 4: think people fully understand the power of relationships. 1256 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,120 Speaker 6: And it's like in long term relationships, right, It's like 1257 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 6: it's not the short term stuff. I think where people 1258 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 6: get it wrong fast is where they sit and they like, 1259 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 6: what's your title? 1260 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 4: What do you do? And then it's immediately trying to 1261 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 4: figure out what they can take. How can you help me? Yeah, 1262 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 4: you got to help them. 1263 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 6: You got to sit sometimes sometimes even like you can't 1264 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 6: help them. So whatever, Just be a person that is 1265 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 6: around and that is knowledgeable about whatever it is, and 1266 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 6: you will be surprised how over time people will be like, oh, 1267 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 6: that's what I call for whatever when I go to Atlanta, 1268 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 6: just just by being the person that was responsive and 1269 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 6: nice and that didn't want anything For as many activities 1270 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 6: and stuff that we do. I'm an introvert. I'm at 1271 01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 6: my house most of the time and I don't ask 1272 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 6: anybody really for anything. And that actually leads to more 1273 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 6: opportunities because folks know when I call them, I'm normally 1274 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 6: calling them with an opportunity, not trying to get one right. 1275 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 6: And so if you're that person, and that's how I 1276 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 6: want to be known, I want folks to know that, 1277 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 6: Like Ryan, I'm not gonna call you and. 1278 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 4: Just be like, yo, you I need something. 1279 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 6: I'm I'm certainly not gonna do that, but I'm not 1280 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 6: even honestly the person's gonna. 1281 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 4: Call you and be like everything good? 1282 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 2: You know? 1283 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 4: Do you? 1284 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 2: I mean? 1285 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 4: You know? 1286 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 2: Let me? 1287 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 6: I just I want you when you see my my 1288 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 6: name come up on your phone to be like all right, 1289 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 6: he's calling there's something, there's something, there's somebody who he 1290 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 6: thinks should be on the platform. There's somebody, there's a 1291 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 6: brand that's called that needs like that, there's there's something 1292 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 6: moving so that like. And I limit my my interactions 1293 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,040 Speaker 6: to stuff that I feel like is meaningful to people. 1294 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 6: And I don't and again, I don't take anything from 1295 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 6: from folks, especially if I don't think I can give 1296 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 6: them anything, you know, any anything in return. But long game, Like, 1297 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 6: it'll be five years yars later and you'd be like, Wow, 1298 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 6: that relationship from prep school paid off. I mean, yeah, 1299 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 6: you spent fifteen years to get that interview. 1300 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 4: It's how you got to look at it. 1301 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the fact that we had a conversation myself, 1302 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 3: Jamal Shotty and actually in UIL University yesterday about generational 1303 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,880 Speaker 3: wealth and generational aspirations. And it's funny because I heard 1304 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 3: you say something when you wanted to practice law, what 1305 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 3: type of law you were practicing, and you said civil 1306 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 3: rights law. And I know that your your grandfather played 1307 01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 3: a major role in the civil rights movement, and you 1308 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 3: said that your parents are entrepreneurs. And so I'm listening 1309 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 3: to you talk to I'm seeing it the embodiment of it. Right, 1310 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 3: you had a civil rights activist, you had entrepreneur parents. 1311 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 3: I know that's your father now. And one of the 1312 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 3: things we discussed was how we lose things over generations, 1313 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 3: and it seems like you haven't lost anything. And so 1314 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 3: I know your father, So what what are some things 1315 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,439 Speaker 3: that you want to make sure that your your daughter, 1316 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 3: correct daughter is gonna you're gonna be able to pass 1317 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 3: down to her. 1318 01:03:58,880 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 2: Man. 1319 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 6: That's the that's a that's a heavy question. I more 1320 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 6: than anything, I want her to know that she is capable. 1321 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 6: And again, this stuff sounds like bumper stickrets, but like 1322 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 6: it really is. It is true to me, like she 1323 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 6: is capable of accomplishing whatever it is that she wants 1324 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 6: to accomplish. I remember first week at Georgetown. I'm in 1325 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 6: I'm in class, and like the first week they go 1326 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 6: through this is X number of valedictorians. Everybody here is 1327 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 6: so smart, this is you're lucky to be here with 1328 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 6: all these smart people. And it's a pwis majority white folks. 1329 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 6: And I remember being in this class and this dude 1330 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 6: he spoke. I remember just looking at him and being like, 1331 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 6: you're like, I'm not that smart, but bro, you're not 1332 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 6: that neither, like and so we got to compete now, 1333 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 6: like like it just because I was kind of sitting 1334 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 6: in the room like, man, I don't know if I'm 1335 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 6: gonna really be able to I was a good student school, 1336 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 6: but like, am I gonna be able to bring it 1337 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 6: on this level? And I remember just hearing them and 1338 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 6: being like no, like my my parents and grandpa, like 1339 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 6: they didn't send me up here to play small with this, 1340 01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 6: Like I can't. I can't go out being a plunk. 1341 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 6: That's how you know I felt about it. And so 1342 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 6: more than anything or I'm going with this is that 1343 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 6: I want her to know that whatever it is that 1344 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 6: she wants to go and do, that she can go 1345 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 6: and do it as big and as bad as anybody 1346 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 6: else h has or wants to do it, and that 1347 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 6: there's nothing that like I'm gonna knock down as many 1348 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,520 Speaker 6: doors as possible. I think, like we do a bad 1349 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 6: job of talking about this in our community, Like I'm 1350 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 6: trying to knock down doors for her that she did 1351 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 6: so that she doesn't have to knock down I'm trying 1352 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 6: to speed up the process. Right, There's no to me, 1353 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 6: there there ain't no, like, ain't nothing in I don't 1354 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 6: get this, like you get we work on. 1355 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 2: The bottom, Like we're not starting back from the bottom. 1356 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 6: For what that's different than like her having work ethic. 1357 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 6: I think that like I'm gonna make sure that she's 1358 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 6: a person that like gets up to work every day. Yeah, 1359 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 6: but the idea that like I'm gonna work as hard 1360 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 6: as I'm working so that she can go all the 1361 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 6: way back and work the same way. Nah, I'm not 1362 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 6: doing that. So like I'm gonna call my friend from 1363 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 6: prep school and be like, yeah, my daughter has and 1364 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 6: then she's got to go in the room and be 1365 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 6: impressive at that point. And my job is to make 1366 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 6: sure that she shows up in that way. But I'm 1367 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 6: going to make the call like I don't and I'm 1368 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 6: gonna make sure that she knows that when she's in 1369 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 6: the room, don't feel smaller than anybody. Because half the time, 1370 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,240 Speaker 6: you know, these entrepreneurs, these stories will come out and 1371 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 6: I'm man, like they just raised one hundred million, we 1372 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 6: sitting here raise three This is this is kind of 1373 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 6: like it's ridiculous, but kept fighting for Like it's not 1374 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 6: that they're more capable than us, is they have better access, 1375 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 6: but they're not more capable. And I want her to. 1376 01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 4: Know that, like she she's as capable as what anybody else. 1377 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 6: And then white folks, whatever group you want to point out, 1378 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 6: like she can go and do that. 1379 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 4: So there you have it. So before we wrap it up, 1380 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 4: I wanted to get what's your what's your vision for 1381 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 4: the next five ten years for the for the company? 1382 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 4: Are you looking to expand into different other areas of business? 1383 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 4: How many locations you're looking at? Like, what's your what's 1384 01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 4: your vision? 1385 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 6: We're gonna build ten locations. The goal is to be 1386 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 6: the biggest private club of our type in the world. Okay, 1387 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,479 Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep all in America or some overseas. I've looked, 1388 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 6: I've looked internationally. 1389 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 4: We'll see I London, I love, I Love I love 1390 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 4: Toronto Adult City please. 1391 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 6: But I mean we've even looked, looked on the continent. 1392 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,400 Speaker 6: It looked at Uh, looked at Ghanah. We've been in 1393 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 6: South Africa looking around. So I mean the map opens 1394 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 6: up for us, but at least ten and you know, 1395 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 6: we're rolling out in the next couple of weeks. The 1396 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 6: opportunity for people to really join the club, no matter 1397 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 6: where it is that they live and have access to 1398 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 6: our programming. So we want to be the biggest and 1399 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 6: best and most culturally relevant private club in the world 1400 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 6: that does kind of the way that we do things 1401 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,280 Speaker 6: at you know, at a high level. So I'm gonna 1402 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 6: keep fighting every day until we get there. 1403 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 4: I love to see it, love to see it. So 1404 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 4: Bryan Pleasure, how can the people contact you? What's all 1405 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 4: the information? Social media, website, all of that stuff. 1406 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 6: You can find it. You can find us online at 1407 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 6: the gathering spots or on social media at the gathering spots. 1408 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 6: I'm at spot on our w but if you go 1409 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,680 Speaker 6: to our website to the gatheringspot dot club you can 1410 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 6: find all information about the club. 1411 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:37,759 Speaker 4: You have a Troy housekeeping. 1412 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1413 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,679 Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out to Dave again. 1414 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 3: Shout to Dave, a boy at United Masses, because I 1415 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,080 Speaker 3: was like, Dave, we're going to Atlanta, and he was like, Yo, 1416 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 3: give me a list of people. 1417 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, Ryan's on it, let's do it. 1418 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 2: And so we connected to Shout Andrea who oh he 1419 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 2: facilitated this day. And shout and Andrea who made sure 1420 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:55,799 Speaker 2: that it happened. 1421 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, and shout everybody that's been supporting on your 1422 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:00,760 Speaker 3: leisure everybody on Pittreon that com. We got some new 1423 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 3: members at T five obviously you know you have access 1424 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 3: to E y L University, Nathan, Miss Brunson and Joseph. 1425 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 3: So we look forward to talking to you and shout 1426 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,680 Speaker 3: everybody that's supporting the merch. We both got our new 1427 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,640 Speaker 3: tracks was on. We're gonna We're gonna make sure you 1428 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 3: have Some of you are now officially alumni. So with that, 1429 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,120 Speaker 3: with that comes from some of some great privileges. So 1430 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 3: welcome to the club. 1431 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to Bem and Schmidty. Also, we got 1432 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 4: a loft in Atlanta where we run our merch out 1433 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 4: of It's my first time actually actually seeing it in person, 1434 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,040 Speaker 4: and they're working very hard. It's very impressive operation that 1435 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 4: they got going on. So yeah, shout out to everybody 1436 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 4: that's making Early Alesia. It's not just me and Choice, 1437 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:39,920 Speaker 4: a lot of people behind the scenes shot out. 1438 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, the shot that might be Mike. Might we see 1439 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 2: him zoom within them. 1440 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 6: Streets man, Congratulations, see all though, appreciate it, y'all, y'all 1441 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 6: doing it for real. 1442 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 4: Appreciate you appreciate it. Brother, So all right, guys, it 1443 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 4: was a pleasure. We'll see you next week. Peace my 1444 01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 4: graduates from my school. 1445 01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:13,600 Speaker 5: Bad drop bags, drop my drop bag, drop b drop. 1446 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,840 Speaker 1: You just realized your business needed to hire someone yesterday. 1447 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 1: How can you find amazing candidates fast? Easy? 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