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Speaker 2: Problem solved touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 1: All that was nasty right there right The latest news

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Speaker 1: and notes from the insiders who cover the team.

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Speaker 4: Bring it on, Break it.

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Speaker 2: On, tuckdown, Saving Hollin slamm the ground by fooda baker

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Speaker 2: like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I

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Speaker 2: skirting nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul calvic.

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Speaker 2: I can't quite decide which medium moment I've enjoyed more

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Speaker 2: where Nick bo this week at the Super Bowl was

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Speaker 2: asked what do you think about the Kansas City offense

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Speaker 2: on line? And his answer was they hold a lot.

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Speaker 2: Next question that was a Nick Bosa answer or the

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Speaker 2: reminder that we got this week that there used to

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Speaker 2: be a reporter slash comedian. He would show up every

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Speaker 2: year to media nite would walk around asking the two

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Speaker 2: super Bowl teams, ask all the players, do you consider

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Speaker 2: this a must win games? I thought it was pretty funny.

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Speaker 4: When you talk about media day, Paul. It's funny because

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Speaker 4: and I was just about to bring this up before

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Speaker 4: we started. Have you ever seen the picture of Joe

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Speaker 4: Namath before Super Bowl three where he's doing media while

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Speaker 4: he's sitting poolside in his bathing suit, Like, yes, there's

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Speaker 4: like eight reporters.

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Speaker 2: He's on the lounge chair right, yeah, by the pool.

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Speaker 4: And it just when you think about what media day

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Speaker 2: In fact, here's the number. Six thousand media members from

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Speaker 2: twenty six countries are credentialed for Super Bowl fifty.

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Speaker 3: Eight six countries.

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Speaker 4: As somebody who covered a number of Super Bowls in

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Speaker 4: my previous reporting life, I'm just gonna say it for

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Speaker 4: the record, it's way way harder to get a credential

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Speaker 4: from Mark Dalton and the Arizona Cardinals than it is

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Speaker 4: to get credential for the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Really, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: The people that they allow go to the super Bowl crazy.

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Speaker 2: Alright, one of us is going to the super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: but just for the weekend, just for the experience, right, Danny.

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Speaker 3: Who are we looking at?

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Speaker 4: Not me?

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Speaker 3: I don't know anything that would be me. Yes, going

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Speaker 3: to Vegas for I'm not surpassing the forty eight hours,

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Speaker 3: just going to network, see some colleagues.

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Speaker 4: And friends party.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha, No, she said, network, Network.

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Speaker 3: Network Network, be asleep by ten o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so cardinals underground, Danny surrec with weekend plans. Me,

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Speaker 2: they're still pending, meaning I'll be at home with the

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Speaker 2: l on my forehead watching the game. Darren, i'd ask

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Speaker 2: what your weekend plans are for the super Bowl, but

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Speaker 2: that's pre ended by the fact that you have something

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Speaker 4: Actually, I'm glad you brought that up, because I already

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Speaker 4: forgot about it. Everybody, this is my This will be

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Speaker 4: the last time I addressed this. Super Bowl is two words.

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Speaker 4: It's two words. That's your rant, that's my I Why

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Speaker 4: can't we get this straight in this country?

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Speaker 2: So that's your public service announcement. It's two words. Okay.

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Speaker 4: The number of times I see super Bowl is one

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Speaker 2: Well, there's people from twenty six different countries, Darren. You

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Speaker 2: know there might be a language barrier here there, I mean.

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Speaker 4: A learning curve when I'm getting emails and or comments

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Speaker 4: are big football fans and they make it one word.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they make it one word so they don't want

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Speaker 2: to have a copyright infringement of some sort and get sued.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe they should. Maybe everyone should just go

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Speaker 4: That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: What does a must have for you to eat while

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's easy.

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 2: Guacamole?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Guackamully is a good one.

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Speaker 2: Come on, you gotta have the squak.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what. I don't really,

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Speaker 4: I haven't thought that much about. There was a stretch

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Speaker 4: Like last year we were there? Were you there? Last year?

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Speaker 3: I was not.

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Speaker 4: I was there, and so I was having a cold

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Speaker 3: That would not make my list of.

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Speaker 2: Things I want to No, I can understand that nobody

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Speaker 2: cares if we're going to be there. The only question

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Speaker 2: is will Taylor Swift be there? And with that being

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Speaker 2: the segue I have to work in that. Did you

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Speaker 2: see the latest in Taylor swift news you can use.

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Speaker 2: It has been estimated by marketing data companies that she

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Speaker 2: has provided a an extra brand value boost of about

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Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty dollars crazy to the NFL since

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Speaker 2: she started attending Chiefs games in September. That's based on

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Speaker 2: all the different platforms that's TV, Internet, every social media.

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Speaker 2: Because realize the NFL has twenty seven million or so

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Speaker 2: followers on Instagram. She has two hundred and seventy nine

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Speaker 3: Look, we've talked about this before. I don't have a

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Speaker 3: problem with showing her for a total of twenty or

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Speaker 3: people in a game. That's not uncommon to show family members.

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Speaker 3: And the reality is is she's a huge pop star.

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Speaker 3: I think if you're going to have some global phenomenon,

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Speaker 3: not popping up in all these camera shots you could

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Speaker 3: She's kind of taking a step back so Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 3: what he needed to do. I've seen online that she

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Speaker 3: leaves pretty generous tips for people who are working in

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Speaker 3: the suite or elevator attendance and doing things of that,

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Speaker 3: and I think in general, look, I'm not a huge swifty.

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Speaker 3: who is a big swifty, and learning a lot about

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift from our very own Caitln Epps, she seems

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Speaker 3: to be somebody who pays her workers a living wage

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Speaker 3: and does all these good things. So I think if

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Speaker 3: you're going to have a pop star be relevant in

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Speaker 3: better options you could have.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited for the new album.

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Speaker 3: Paul Announce to the Grammy.

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Speaker 4: I think she's doing cover of the Super Bowl Shuffle

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Speaker 2: That was some great marketing, by the way, where she

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Speaker 4: Gay That's all done seventy nine million followers without having

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Speaker 2: It's funny because a radio row boomerasisin who happens to

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Speaker 2: Let it be known that he thinks wait, actually his

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Speaker 2: went into elaborate detail about how Team Taylor, her business handlers,

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Speaker 2: are telling the NFL, if you want Taylor at the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, guess what you really need to pay for

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Speaker 2: the private jet service to make it happen from Tokyo,

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Speaker 2: and they'll need to be a suite, her own suite

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Speaker 2: for security purposes. So it sounds like Team Taylor has

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Speaker 2: recognized the fact that they have generated the equivalent brand

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Speaker 2: telling the NFL to do their part.

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Speaker 3: That is savvy to me, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 2: Smart, absolutely, And she raised the bar for Travis Kelcey himself,

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Speaker 2: even he told the media on media night, you know what,

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Speaker 2: she held up her end of the bargain with the

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Speaker 2: hardware the Grammys. Now I have to go ahead and

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Speaker 2: bring home the hardware in the Lombardi Trophy. So there

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Speaker 4: I mean, first you had the Watt family in competing

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Speaker 3: I will say, I think it'll be impressive to see

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Speaker 3: not only Taylor Swift in a swite, but who else

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Speaker 3: can afford I mean, you're Vega, so a lot of

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Speaker 3: people can afford those suites. But at Allegian Stadium, what

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the approximate cost of ticket, just the average

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Speaker 2: any other Super Bowl, including fifty seven in the Phoenix

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Speaker 2: and what's interesting too, is to hear because we obviously

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Speaker 2: we look over the block wall, the NFC West and

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Speaker 2: And here's some of the anecdotes that come from Kyle

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Speaker 2: Shanahan and Jed Yorke, the owner, like they told the

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Speaker 2: owner in the eye and said, this is one of

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Speaker 2: the worst rosters I've ever seen. They were a two

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Speaker 4: Yikes.

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Speaker 2: And then you look at a quick history of what

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Speaker 2: they did to build up this team. They traded for

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Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel and Tallanoa Hufunga, the safety who's injured right now.

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Speaker 2: Four of those picks happen outside round one. And then

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Speaker 2: in free agency they spend big money just recently on

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Speaker 2: Javon Hargrave and then Charvarius Ward, who ended up being

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Speaker 2: an All Pro corner. So they're like, Okay, the NFL

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Speaker 2: is still a copycat league. Is there a blueprint assorts

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Speaker 2: there for the Cardinals, especially especially to me, at least,

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Speaker 2: if you're going a free agency and big dollars, what

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Speaker 2: about the defense, whether maybe there's a corner out there

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Speaker 2: and I'm not sure if there is, but there are

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Speaker 2: a few defensive linemen who are going to hit the market,

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Speaker 2: including Chris Jones apparently is going to hit the market,

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Speaker 2: And so all right, if you're maniacid for it and

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Speaker 2: you have a significant need along that defensive front, do

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Speaker 2: you think maybe with what forty two million or so

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Speaker 2: according to the websites and cap space for the Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Cardinals sounds ballparky.

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Speaker 2: I mean, could that be? Could that be one of

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Speaker 2: the big offseason moves?

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Speaker 3: I think so. I would think off season moves when

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Speaker 3: a proven veteran. There's a lot of pieces, a lot

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Speaker 3: of factors that have to play into this for that

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Speaker 4: With pause real quick. That's the big props for doing

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Speaker 4: Here's what I'm going to say about it.

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Speaker 2: There are some guys, yeah, but there's always that big

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Speaker 2: So it just makes me wonder And we honestly don't

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Speaker 2: So I'm really cures. Now. On the other hand, you

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Speaker 2: don't think the Colts ever let Michael Pittman hit the

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Speaker 2: I am with you, guys, I think they're much more

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Speaker 2: A because they need numerous players on that side of

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Speaker 2: We don't know yet, We honestly don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: even like a inside linebacker like Patrick Queen. They did

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Speaker 4: For me. Sorry to cut you off for me. My

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Speaker 4: If I'm spending big money off ball linebacker, is not

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Speaker 3: That was the point I was going to make your edit.

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Speaker 3: You're no, You're good. It's a point where, yeah, that

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you one potential big time defensive front free

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Speaker 2: Chase Young and that video.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not a good video, that.

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Speaker 2: Video of turning down he stopped running turning down Jamar Gibbs,

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Speaker 2: And when you're seeing players and it wasn't just Chase

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Speaker 4: So the suggestion is, obviously Steve Wilkes called them out

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Speaker 2: Did he said, as a defense, it's unacceptable, and he

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Speaker 4: Does that? Does that motivate them for this game? I

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Speaker 2: And there was also a report from an insider, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you knew this, Paul, but the

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Speaker 2: Lie appreciate that. And if not that, Daniel'll go find

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Speaker 2: the All twenty two. She's very good at that. Daniell

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Speaker 4: Wait, Steve Wilkes tweeted that he tweeted that out. I

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Speaker 2: And you know, as I was trying to educate Roy

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey. No, we could look, we talked about Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: The first thing it comes up is Taylor Swift. But

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Speaker 2: He had eleven catches on eleven targets for a buck

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Speaker 3: Not only those numbers. I think about in the Chief's

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Speaker 2: All right, So here's my question. Trey McBride, Cardinals stand

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Speaker 3: I don't know that you could argue that he's not

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Speaker 3: in Week ten, McBride for the rest of the year

440
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Speaker 3: led tight ends and pretty much every category across the

441
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Speaker 3: board in terms of receptions and receiving yards, and I

442
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 3: believe what yards after catch as well, but amongst tight ends,

443
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Speaker 3: that's impressive. I think if McBride continues to improve on

444
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Speaker 3: his blocking, which I know is something that this coaching

445
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Speaker 3: staff has been working on him with, I would absolutely

446
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Speaker 3: expect him to continue to elevate his game next year

447
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Speaker 3: and make a push to be one of those top

448
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Speaker 3: tight ends because he's hard to bring down on first contact.

449
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Speaker 3: It's not like he's able to have that now. I

450
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Speaker 3: still think he needs a little bit of time. With

451
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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray didn't have a lot less and have a

452
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Speaker 3: lot of opportunities, and McBride came off the bench. Obviously

453
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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray was hurt. So I think having an offseason

454
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Speaker 3: and a training camp the two of them together, I

455
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Speaker 3: really think you can still see a difference.

456
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Speaker 4: It feels like there's a renaissance and tight ends going

457
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Speaker 4: on right now in the league. I mean, obviously you

458
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Speaker 4: have Kelsey and Kittle in the Super Bowl, which there's

459
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Speaker 4: still the gold standard, but the Laporta in Detroit and

460
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Speaker 4: Hockinson in Minnesota.

461
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Speaker 2: Mark Andrews when healthy.

462
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Speaker 4: Mark Andrews, the kid from Dallas, Shake Ferguson, Jake Ferguson,

463
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Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of really good tight ends

464
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Speaker 4: right now, so and I think Trey is right. I mean,

465
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Speaker 4: you can't argue with the back half of his season

466
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Speaker 4: and put it up against any And it's to me,

467
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Speaker 4: it's not just the numbers, it's the impact. It's it's

468
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Speaker 4: knowing that he can be the guy. Numbers can sometimes

469
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Speaker 4: get wonky because teams can, you know, figure out ways

470
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Speaker 4: to hold you without the ball. But I mean, for me,

471
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Speaker 4: he's already huge strikes. Now can he get better? Yes?

472
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Speaker 4: And you know, our guy Wolf always likes to talk

473
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Speaker 4: about making sure that he's more Kiddle than Kelsey. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 4: and making sure that McBride continues to work on his

475
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Speaker 4: blocking so he doesn't turn into a one dimensional guy

476
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Speaker 4: and uh, in.

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Speaker 2: Fact of a big red rage, we had Trey McBride

478
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Speaker 2: on late in the season and Wolf got into the

479
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Speaker 2: whole rant about, you know, making sure you're a dual

480
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Speaker 2: threat tight end and Trey Stobina said, you know what,

481
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Speaker 2: Jag needs to make you the run game blocking coordinator

482
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Speaker 2: And I said, that's too lofty. He's got to start

483
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Speaker 2: out run game blocking quality control. Let's be honest over here.

484
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Speaker 2: So yeah, and then we had Ben Steele on the

485
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Speaker 2: Big Red rage is position coach, and Ben Steele said,

486
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Speaker 2: don't worry. I kept his ego and check every Monday.

487
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Speaker 2: We'd come in and I wouldn't go with the ten

488
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Speaker 2: catches for a buck eleven and the touchdown. He said,

489
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Speaker 2: I would immediately start with you missed this block here,

490
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Speaker 2: you failed to seal the edge there, and you know,

491
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Speaker 2: and so he said, I made sure to keep him

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Speaker 2: in line.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to imagine Trey McBride having an ego in

494
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Speaker 3: any sense, just from being around for two years and

495
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Speaker 3: the personality he has and just how humble and down

496
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Speaker 3: to earth and kind he is. Not just the numbers

497
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Speaker 3: that McBride put up this year. I think his reliability

498
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Speaker 3: for this offense is what stands at it. And that's

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Speaker 3: what I really appreciate about his performance this year. More

500
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Speaker 3: times than not, the wide receivers as a whole struggled

501
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Speaker 3: to produce consistently. McBride did not. He was a constant

502
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Speaker 3: for whichever quarterback was there, especially when Murray made his return,

503
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Speaker 3: and once McBride got hot and he got going, it

504
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Speaker 3: was hard to stop him in a game. And that's important,

505
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Speaker 3: and that's impressive, is to have that security blanket. That's

506
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Speaker 3: what Kyler Murray called zach Ertz when he was traded

507
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Speaker 3: here a couple of years ago. Was Murray made a

508
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Speaker 3: comment of, Oh, I've never had a tight ENDB security

509
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Speaker 3: blanket before. I can absolutely see Trey McBride filling in

510
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Speaker 3: as a new security blanket for Kyler.

511
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Speaker 4: And big picture, when you start talking about Trey McBride,

512
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Speaker 4: I mean, where was the conversation with Trey McBride that

513
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Speaker 4: we were having this time last year? It was like, Oh, like,

514
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Speaker 4: I hope this wasn't a waste of a second round pick.

515
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Speaker 4: You know, how quickly can this guy come around? Why

516
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Speaker 4: did they take him in the second round? And now

517
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 4: look where it is, and it just it reminds you

518
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: like you got to give these draft picks a couple

519
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Speaker 4: of years. It was funny because I keep getting questions

520
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Speaker 4: about why the Cardinals bothered a trade back up for

521
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Speaker 4: Paris Johnson because they went from three to twelve and

522
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Speaker 4: then twelve up to six to get Paris Johnson. And

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Speaker 4: I guess you can argue that there could have been

524
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Speaker 4: another tackle that you could have taken later if you

525
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Speaker 4: stayed at twelve, But they liked Paris. They liked Paris

526
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Speaker 4: the whole time. And as I was, ESPN had a

527
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Speaker 4: redraft already of the of the first round for last year,

528
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Speaker 4: and no trades were allowed, so everybody was in their

529
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Speaker 4: original trade draft position. So if the Cardinals were going

530
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Speaker 4: to stay in their original position, they took Willy Anderson.

531
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Speaker 4: But it was interesting that Paris Johnson still didn't get

532
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Speaker 4: past the Raiders, I think at seven, which is one

533
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Speaker 4: of the reasons the Cardinals went from twelve to six,

534
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Speaker 4: was because it was pretty much common knowledge that the

535
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Speaker 4: Raiders won in Paris Johnson, and so if the Cardinals

536
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: won in Paris Johnson, that's why you trade it up

537
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Speaker 4: for him. And it's just and I think Paris had

538
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Speaker 4: a solid year this year. Can he get better? Of

539
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 4: course he can, but like, let's get him a couple

540
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Speaker 4: of years here before we start saying, Wow, they shouldn't

541
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Speaker 4: have traded up for him, they should have gotten somebody else.

542
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Speaker 4: All that stuff.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's hard of there is and it's

544
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Speaker 3: a fair expectation. I have the same expectation. If you're

545
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Speaker 3: going to have a high draft pick in the first

546
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Speaker 3: round needs to come in and that player needs to

547
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Speaker 3: be an impact player. Immediately. Yes, there are so many positions,

548
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Speaker 3: and offensive line is just not one of them where

549
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Speaker 3: you can look at the statuet and get a good

550
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Speaker 3: idea of how a player performed. And so I could

551
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Speaker 3: understand if people are saying, oh, well, how do I

552
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Speaker 3: know if he had a good year or if it

553
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: was good or great or things like that, and that's

554
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Speaker 3: just one of the positions. Whereas a rookie, it's he

555
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 3: actually did have a pretty good year. It's just it's

556
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Speaker 3: not going to look the same when people are comparing.

557
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Speaker 3: Oh but if we would have taken Will Anderson, look

558
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Speaker 3: what he did in Houston. It's it's hard to just

559
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 3: look at the numbers and those splash plays and things

560
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: of that nature when you're comparing those two different positions.

561
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Speaker 2: So maybe I missed it. Where in the redraft? Where

562
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Speaker 2: did Paris Johnson Junior go in?

563
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Speaker 4: Wherever the Raiders picked, which I believe was seven?

564
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Speaker 2: Gotcha? Okay, so in the same vicinity.

565
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 4: Right, which is why seven or eight, which is why

566
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Speaker 4: the Cardinals went up to six, gotcha because that was

567
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Speaker 4: the trade they could do to get in front of

568
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Speaker 4: the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Well, you at your little rant about you know, Super

570
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Speaker 2: Bowl is two words.

571
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Speaker 4: It's two words.

572
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Speaker 3: What about end zone?

573
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Speaker 4: End zone is also two words.

574
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Speaker 3: Let me think what else?

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Speaker 2: Off season? Hyphen or no off zon? No, no hyphen Okay,

576
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Speaker 2: that's the one I always pause on. Okay, off season.

577
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Speaker 4: I can probably argue about. But I'm a believer in

578
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Speaker 4: no hyphen for off season.

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Speaker 2: Right, So two words. Super Bowl. My rant would be

580
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Speaker 2: two rookies of the Year from the same team. C J.

581
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Speaker 2: Stroud is already vexing enough stinking c J Stroud and

582
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: only five interceptions in the Pro Bowl caliber play and

583
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Speaker 2: everything he did for Houston, right, and they won no

584
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: more than four games the three previous season. He leads

585
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Speaker 2: them from worst to first and into the playoffs, and

586
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Speaker 2: the Cardinals are picking twenty seventh because of it. What

587
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Speaker 2: we really don't need is that second Rookie of the

588
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Speaker 2: year defensive Rookie of the year Will Anderson Junior. We

589
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Speaker 2: really don't need that. So this is me imploring all

590
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Speaker 2: the voters NFL honors Devin Witherspoon. As much as it

591
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 2: paints me in the twelves in Seattle, it is actually

592
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Speaker 2: the better option. Devin Witherspoon, who is a Pro bowler himself,

593
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Speaker 2: needs to be your defensive rookie in the air NFL

594
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Speaker 2: because we can't have Will Anderson Junior taking.

595
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Speaker 3: Home that hard You're picking the lesser of two evils.

596
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Speaker 2: Yes, I am. There's no doubt. There's absolutely no doubt

597
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Speaker 2: about that.

598
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Speaker 4: But make no mistake, they are evil.

599
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, as I get older, I don't necessarily

600
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Speaker 2: pull for teams to win. Okay, there's not much fanboy

601
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: left in me, but there are certain entities that I

602
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: root to lose. Is that okay? Is that wrong? The Dodgers,

603
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: like I want them to lose, Like Draymond Green. I

604
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: want Draymond Green and the Warriors to lose.

605
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Speaker 4: I think a lot of fans are like that.

606
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Speaker 2: You know, Sean Payton, haughty, want him to lose. It's

607
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: you know, these are some of the things.

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Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons even with coaching, they always

609
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: the coaches always talk about the losses hurt so much

610
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Speaker 4: more than the wins give you joy.

611
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Speaker 2: Right, yes, but as a fan who dislikes some of

612
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: these entities, you know what, the losses actually give me

613
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 2: more joy than the wins. Do discuss if that makes sense.

614
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Speaker 4: I think. However, if your team, whoever it might be,

615
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 4: is doing really, well, you would. You would probably change

616
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Speaker 4: that a little bit. One of the reasons I think

617
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Speaker 4: people are so into rooting for teams or players that

618
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: you don't like to lose is because mathematically your team

619
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Speaker 4: isn't always going to be in the mix. So it's

620
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Speaker 4: mathematically you're gonna you benefit by that quote unquote high

621
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Speaker 4: of the team you don't like losing more often than

622
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Speaker 4: your team will be winning, getting to troll.

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Speaker 3: So does that mean you're rooting for the Chiefs.

624
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: Well, that's a tough one right there.

625
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: That is now you have Kansas City fatigue.

626
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Speaker 2: Yes, some serious fatigue. That's to be determined. I will

627
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Speaker 2: say this as far as the Twelves because I do

628
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Speaker 2: enjoy watching the Twelves lose. Since we gave the Niners

629
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Speaker 2: some love. In the NFC West Update desk, Rams News,

630
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Speaker 2: they ended up hiring to replace Raheem Morris Chris Shula.

631
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Speaker 2: You're like, jeez, I've heard that football name before. Yes,

632
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: he's the grandson of Hall of Fame coach Don Shula.

633
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Speaker 2: He's gonna be the Rams new defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, and I think I saw that, So, like,

635
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Speaker 4: is Brandon Staley going to be a defensive coordinator somewhere.

636
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Speaker 4: Did he get hired somewhere?

637
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Speaker 2: Not to my knowledge, not to my knowledge.

638
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Speaker 4: No, that surprises me.

639
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Speaker 3: So And by the way, Cowboys haven't hired a new

640
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Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. You never know, Darren.

641
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: Drew, Mike Zimmer.

642
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Speaker 2: By the way, Chris Shula was Sean mcvay's longtime assistant

643
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: in college team mate. Actually so they were a college

644
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: teammates years ago. Well, okay, Darren, snarky guy, guess what.

645
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: Sean McVay is no longer the youngest head coach he

646
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: has been for like the last decades.

647
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Speaker 4: He's still significantly younger than me, though.

648
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: But now it's Mike McDonald aged thirty six, literally half

649
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Speaker 2: the age of coach Double Rainbow.

650
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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, do you have a nickname for

651
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 4: him yet?

652
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: Not yet, but he deserves one. He deserves one because

653
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Speaker 2: to his own admission quote, I have a different personality.

654
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: You'll get to know me, but my plan is to

655
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Speaker 2: be myself every day and you're just going to get me.

656
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: It's not a facade, no other alter agendas or anything

657
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: like that.

658
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 4: Okay, what does that mean? Though?

659
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: He said, the spirit of how we play and the

660
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: principles of how we play. What you've seen on tape

661
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: in Baltimore will be the same, but I can't guarantee

662
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: you the schematics will be the same here because we're

663
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: not sure what we're good at yet. And then the

664
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: GM John Schneider described the new head coach of the

665
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: Seahawks as a quote disruptor and said one of the

666
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: guiding principles through the interview process was who is going

667
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: to change the marketplace? So they think they have an

668
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: innovative new head coach and Mike McDonald's words so and

669
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: John Schneider said that he talked to several people that

670
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: had interviewed Mike McDonald before he did, and they all

671
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: told him, wait until you look into this guy's eyes.

672
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: He's there, he's present, he's on it. So apparently the

673
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: antioxidant all organic antioxidant ways have not left Seattle. With

674
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: the dismissal of Pete Carroll, I.

675
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 4: Gotta be honest, like, I don't I understand when every

676
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: coach gets but I would love I would love to

677
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 4: bring together like and this goes for all teams, like

678
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 4: the things that were being said about a coach when

679
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: he first gets hired, you know, and nine of them

680
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: are gone.

681
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: After like everyone up. What about another coach that was

682
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: recently high and Paul and that would be Washington's offensive coordinator.

683
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: Oh, Cliff Kingsbury. I'm glad you brought that up. And

684
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: you brought that up now, Danny, if I was your age,

685
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: I might actually change careers and pursue a future as

686
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator in the NFL, because I cannot believe

687
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: all of these new ocs who were old OC's elsewhere.

688
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: I mean Cliff Kingsbury, for example, former Cardinals head coach

689
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey and Cleveland fired by Buffalo, Luke Getsy in

690
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: Vegas fired by Chicago, Kellen Moore and Philly fired by

691
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: the Chargers, Alex van Pelt in New England fired by Cleveland,

692
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith of Pittsburgh fired by Atlanta as the head coach.

693
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: Joe Brady and Buffalo was the Carolina OC in twenty

694
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: and twenty one, Liam Cohen and Tampa was the Rams

695
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: OC in twenty two. I mean, almost every single OC

696
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: gig went to someone. It's just a big musical chairs.

697
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: What's going on with all of this?

698
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting. It was definitely interesting getting the alerts

699
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: over the weekend of Kingsbury was supposedly going to take

700
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: the OC job in Vegas, and then the next day

701
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: got an alert that he turned that down and then

702
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: ended up going to Washington under new head coach Dan Quinn.

703
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: And then all the speculations of well, does that mean

704
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: Washington's gonna want to trade up one spot and get

705
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: the first overall pick from Chicago and draft USC's quarterback

706
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, who Kingsbury has now a close relationship and

707
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 3: understanding with after being out there for a year.

708
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: Actually, they're going to sign Josh Rosen.

709
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 3: Too soon, Darren, and Kingsbury's going to make his return

710
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: to State Farm Stadium might be worthy of a Week

711
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 3: one matchup. Just kidding.

712
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 4: I don't want to do Commanders Week one two years

713
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 4: in a row.

714
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: Oh, that's right.

715
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: So when he was going to the Raiders for that

716
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: thirty six hour period, I'm thinking, Okay, Jaden Daniels, the Raiders,

717
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: Antonio Pearce was with ASU, Cliff was in the Valley

718
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: with Jayden Daniels. That's the direction. Here come the Raiders

719
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: maybe to number four with the Cardinals to take Jade

720
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: and Daniels, and then Cliff goes to Washington and you're thinking, okay,

721
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: who's the quarterback and number two because there's no way

722
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: they're going with Sam Howell. I mean that was horrendous

723
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: to it. I mean, you realize, Sam Howe, I have

724
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: it right. Here was sacks sixty five times, that led

725
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: the NFL. He threw twenty one picks. They had him

726
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: throw six hundred and twelve pass attempts, which led the NFL.

727
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Washington did Sam Howe no favors in his

728
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: first year as a starter. They had no run game,

729
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: they didn't run the ball even tried. And nobody got

730
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: sacked more than Sam Howell. Number two, by the way,

731
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: is Bryce Young. He got sacked sixty two times. Remember

732
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: what I.

733
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 4: Say, somebody got sacked more than Bryce Young. That's crazy

734
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 4: to me.

735
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: If you take the top of the draft, right, if

736
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 2: you take the top of the draft, you can read

737
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: into it how many sacks allowed, how many sacks registered,

738
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: and the teams that were worse in both categories are

739
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: almost always at the top of the draft. Protect that quarterback,

740
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: get to the quarterback. But in terms of CLO.

741
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 4: What was the Cardinals sack total?

742
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: Well, the Cardinals ended up bottom seven in terms of

743
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: sacks because they were only had one sack in their

744
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: final six games. About two thirds of the way through

745
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 2: the season, the Cardinals were about midway. We're about halfway,

746
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: you know, fifty to fifty in the NFL right range.

747
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: The sacks should get out, the sacks the Cardinals rule.

748
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: I'm telling them talking about both. If you go with

749
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: both and you sort at them together. But in terms

750
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: of Cliff Kingsbury, look, and a lot of people, you know,

751
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: and a lot of people are going to ask you, guys,

752
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: A lot of people have already asked me, like what

753
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: did Washington see? Well, if you go to the first

754
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: half of twenty twenty one when the Cardinals started seven

755
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: to oh ten and two, they had a top ten

756
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: run game. Now what happened the rest of that season?

757
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: Nobody really knows as to why the bottom fell out,

758
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: and they well know what happened in twenty twenty two.

759
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: Basically everything that could go wrong did go wrong, including

760
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: the second most injuries and like lee history and eleven

761
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: different starting offensive line combinations and then Kyler season ending injury.

762
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: So I can see where Dan Quinn goes. Okay, Cliff Kingsbury,

763
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: and you know what, a lot like Dan Quinn himself,

764
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: and what did he say at the media press conference. Look,

765
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot that I learned my first time around

766
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: as head coach, and when you get a second chance,

767
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 2: you better be darned sure you learn from the first chance.

768
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: And hopefully, and I'm guessing he's thinking Cliff Kingsbury did

769
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: the same thing.

770
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: I would think that's a fair assessment for Kingsbury to do.

771
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: We know how hard he worked. He was in here

772
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: at four am every single day, constantly watching film. He

773
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: was a head coach in college, head coach here obviously

774
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 3: for a couple of years. I think it would make

775
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: sense that he could find success as an offensive coordinator.

776
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: He's so offensive minded that not having to focus on

777
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: the defense and special teams and everything a head coach

778
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: has to do, and also dealing with all the other

779
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: off the field stuff in the locker room and everything

780
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 3: else you're having to deal with.

781
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 4: With.

782
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: If Kingsbury can just focus on the offense and he's

783
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: got a quarterback that he likes that they're able to

784
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: kind of beef up that offensive line and create some protection,

785
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: I think he could find more success as an offensive coordinator.

786
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see the philosophy of is one

787
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: of those things he learns from the run game and

788
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: relying on the run and using that a little differently,

789
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: maybe not being in shotgun as often as Kyler Murray

790
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 3: was when Kingsbury was his head coach out here, it'll

791
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 3: just be interesting. But Kingsbury won't have to worry about

792
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 3: all the head coaching bs, right, that's gonna be dan quint.

793
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: He can just focus on the offense and what he

794
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: likes to do.

795
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: I am super curious about the shotgun thing because again,

796
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 4: and I know I brought it up a million times before,

797
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 4: long before they well not long before, but a month

798
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: before they drafted Kyler Murray. Cliff Kingsbury said it was

799
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 4: his philosophy that you there was no thing you couldn't

800
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: do in shotgun that you could do that that you

801
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: did under center.

802
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: That was said the owner's meeting, it said a little

803
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: more right the first That's right. And that was a

804
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: month before they drafted Kyler Murray.

805
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: So that's his philosophy. So do you does that get

806
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: altered some with dan Quinn now that he's got a

807
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: head coach saying Okay, we gotta we gotta gotta do

808
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: a little bit.

809
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 3: Different than that, and a defensive minded head coach in

810
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: terms of okay, this is it is harder if you're

811
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: under center and seeing what's going on and things of

812
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: that that could play a role. And if Kingsbury has

813
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: to alter his.

814
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: Philosophy, let the record reflect. I asked Kyler Murray in

815
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: his second to last press conference just about how much

816
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: more comfortable he was under center, and he went into

817
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: a long explanation within which he said I was always

818
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 2: in favor.

819
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 4: Yes, he did say that I noticed that being under center.

820
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: Is that revisionist history? Is that true? We'll see So

821
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: to your point, Okay, now we'll see what Cliff installs

822
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: in Washington. What does it look like? I will say,

823
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: Washington coming to play the Cardinals in the az feels

824
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: and smells like a Thursday night game.

825
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: Cardinals are going to be back in primetime.

826
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: In primetime.

827
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: Here you go have a single primetime game last year.

828
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: Coming back to the Asy. You know, not it's not

829
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: quite Sunday night or Monday night because you have two

830
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: teams who are in the top five of the draft.

831
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: But Thursday night feels like a good fit for that matchup.

832
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 4: I could see that possible. I could see that.

833
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: By the way, neither one of you is going to Brazil.

834
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: You do realize that because the Eagles are hosting there,

835
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: so any speculation there.

836
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: Am I wrong in that there's two Brazil games?

837
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 4: You are wrong.

838
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: I am wrong. Someone was just telling me there was

839
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 3: one in Rio as well, which I didn't think was

840
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: I think there's only one.

841
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 4: There's only one?

842
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: Interesting, there's two in Germany.

843
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: To in Germany. It's interesting to me. It's Philadelphia not Miami.

844
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: But what do I know, well, not that there was

845
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 4: only one Brazil game.

846
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Well someone told me that this afternoon. I did

847
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: think that was the case until someone said that the

848
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: Cardinal the Cardinal. The Cardinals still have a chance to

849
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: go international though Vikings. Sure, Cardinals are the away team

850
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: against the Vikings who play in London and the Panthers

851
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 3: in Germany.

852
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

853
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: I would love to go to Fingers Crossed.

854
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: Same so, Danny, anything that you need to convey from

855
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl before I get to the Senior Bowl.

856
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: We had a good time out there with safety Buddha Baker,

857
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 3: who was great as always, did a lot of fun

858
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 3: content with us. It was it was definitely different. My

859
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 3: only other experience in person was going to Vegas two

860
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: years ago, and I'm not talking about being different just

861
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: the atmosphere, but just logistically of in Vegas it was

862
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 3: a small minor league ballpark that was filled with fans

863
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: for practice, and then in Florida and Orlando it was

864
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 3: at Camping World Stadium, which is a big football stadium,

865
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: and there weren't fans out there at practice. There was

866
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 3: like community fans, people who had been selected to come

867
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: watch from the field. So it's a different vibe in

868
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 3: that sense. Practices are what you would expect of, pretty

869
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: low key. Not a lot going on at practice, I

870
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: will say from what I saw on TV because we

871
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: were only out there until Saturday so we came back.

872
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: But watching the skills on Thursday and what they did

873
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: in the Pro Bowl games on Sunday, I think the

874
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 3: NFL has done a good job at pivoting understanding that

875
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: just the game and players understandably, so we're not taking

876
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 3: it very seriously because you don't want to get hurt

877
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: and it's not really worth much besides an extra check,

878
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: which yes, is nice. I understand the argument of people

879
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: wanting to see the Pro Bowl after the Super Bowl,

880
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 3: so that you really are getting the best of the best,

881
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: because players who are playing in the Super Bowl don't

882
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: participate in the Pro Bowl because they're getting ready for

883
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: that game. But I like that you get to see

884
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: some different players and positions, and I think that the

885
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 3: league does a nice job at allowing those different skill

886
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: sets for those positions to shine. Of power, agility, speed,

887
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 3: whatever that might be. You have something for the centers

888
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: and the long snappers of snapping the ball. You've got

889
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: the precision passing for quarterbacks, and best catch dodgeball, which

890
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: is fun. I like that the flag football game on

891
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: Sunday was broken up in the quarters of the gauntlet

892
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: and tug of war and pulling the sled and all that.

893
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: I just I thought it was for what the Pro

894
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: Bowl is. I thought it was nice of kind of

895
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: being different and up. You know, the pace was good

896
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: enough to kind of keep you watching. You weren't just

897
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 3: watching a stale flag football game, so all in all,

898
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: not a bad watch.

899
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: You know. When they when I heard they brought back

900
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: the tug of War, I was actually a little surprised

901
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: something And really NFL gms and owners consented to letting

902
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: their big guys get into the whole tug of war thing.

903
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: I mean, doesn't that seem like you'd be somewhat susceptible

904
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: to you know, sweet knee or something like that. But

905
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty arduous, some pretty demanding, isn't.

906
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 4: But look at all the other stuff. I mean, you

907
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: there was the one where you're like pulling the chain

908
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 4: that like the first down chain.

909
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: Right, you had to pull all the weight off and

910
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: then you were pulling the first down chain as like

911
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: a sled. It was a big sled that.

912
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, doing that and this turned into like the World's

913
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: Strongest man and bag Mason, my guy. I mean, what's

914
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: going on?

915
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 4: To be honest, even the flag football game. I'm like,

916
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 4: you're watching guys run around. I mean, it doesn't you

917
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 4: could blow out a need doing that, I guess. So

918
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: all right, thanks to Orlando you did that once.

919
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: Oh boy? Okay, so all right, there you go that.

920
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 4: You can get hurt, you can get killed stepping off

921
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 4: a curb. Paul I also liked.

922
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: I liked when Buddha Baker had the opportunity he was

923
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: hyping up some of his teammates in an interview the

924
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 3: Sideline Exchange interview, I'd asked which offensive player he was

925
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: happiest to be teammates with on the NFC team and

926
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 3: not have to defend. And he named Cowboys ride receiver

927
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: CD Lamb by name, which makes sense, and the Buddha

928
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: was looking around. He's like, yeah, we've got some good

929
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and he said totally serious, I don't think any

930
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: eve are better than K one, which I don't think

931
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: is a bad assessment. And then when he was miked

932
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: up for the wired piece that's out on Easycarninals dot

933
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 3: com and the official YouTube channel, he was also wearing

934
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: to go pro. And so he's talking with Julian Love,

935
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: the other starting safety from the Seahawks, and and they

936
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 3: were at practice and Julian was talking to Buddha about

937
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: if they were in Cover two or man whatever and

938
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: talking about communication, and Buddha's like, yeah, yes, safetyes, they communicate.

939
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: And Buddha went to do like a little handshaker gesture

940
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 3: and he said to Julian that's how I do with JT.

941
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 3: And Julian's like, oh, Jayleen Thompson, he had a good year, right,

942
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: AND's Buddha's telling him how he's bawling out and hyping

943
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 3: up JT. And I thought that was cool to see

944
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: that in very organic situations, Buddha was hyping up as teammates.

945
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: It's good. Those are good questions, Danny. It's sort of

946
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: like that elementary school kid at media night. It was

947
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 2: asking all those money questions.

948
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: Cute.

949
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, it was beyond cute. I mean it

950
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 2: was incredibly impressive, was it not. I mean the questions

951
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: were well thought out.

952
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: That's the kid who a couple of years ago did

953
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 3: I think it was started as like a tiny mic

954
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: interview randomly on the sideline. I think his interview was

955
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: with Davante Adams and he had all his stats and

956
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: numbers ready to go.

957
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 4: Don't tell Paul, but we've already interviewed the kid. I

958
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 4: don't know what that means for Paul going forward, but.

959
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: Oh geez, wow, well, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie.

960
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: I was sitting there watching that. I told the wife,

961
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I'm not sure. I asked

962
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: a question that good all year, and this kid's just

963
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: rattling them off one after another. I'm like, my goodness,

964
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: I got to raise my game. These kids are up

965
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: and coming for your gig. It's unbelievable. All right, so

966
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: we're talking about practice, man, right, Senior Bowl. They're out

967
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: there because all the scouts leave when it comes time

968
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: for the game. You realize the Senior Bowl they had

969
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: their first sellout since twenty ten. Do you know who

970
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: was on the roster in twenty ten that resulted in

971
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: an automatic sellout? Cam Newton, I was just going to

972
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: guess that Tim Tebow. Players also wore helmet stickers this year,

973
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: featuring a parrot drinking a margarita to honor the late

974
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 2: Mobile native Jimmy.

975
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 4: Buffett Mobile Alabama.

976
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: Yes. Wow, So there's a couple of fun factoids on that.

977
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: The best news for the Cardinals QB rising Arey comes

978
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: Michael Pennix Junior didn't play in the game, but he

979
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: had a heck of a practice week.

980
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: See that's funny because I've also I've read some reports

981
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 4: like that. I've read other reports that said he wasn't

982
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 4: that great during the week.

983
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: Oh, that's not good. Well, if he wasn't, then bo

984
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 2: Nix was. Bo Nix got some good props. They actually

985
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: had they had the chip and the shoulder pad deal

986
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: or whatever on their person, and they had Michael Pennix

987
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: exceeding nineteen and a half miles per hour on a scramble.

988
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: So bad, okay. And then actually local kids Spencer Rattler.

989
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: He only played a couple of series, but he was

990
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: four for four and he was decent during the week.

991
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: But once again, if you can get that fourth quarterback man,

992
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: you just get him to come up to number four.

993
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: And then the Cardinals have the option do they pick

994
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: a player at number four or do they cash it

995
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: in for a quarterback desperate team that wants to move up.

996
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know who it is. I don't care

997
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: who it is, whether it's Michael Pennix, whether it's Bo Nicks,

998
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: I don't care. Come on, Anthony Richardson. Did it last year?

999
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: Darren out of nowhere? He turned the combine in his

1000
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: pro day into the fourth But.

1001
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 4: They were all, yeah, but there he wasn't the fourth quarterback,

1002
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 4: he was the fourth pick.

1003
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: Sure, well true. I don't care what the scenario is,

1004
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: although I will say this, where's the one I have here? Okay,

1005
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: this is Lance z Line NFL dot Com. He has

1006
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: the Cardinals taking a receiver at number four. Cardinals need

1007
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 2: to add a big wide out. My comp for this

1008
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: player is Larry Fitzgerald, except the player he has the

1009
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 2: Cardinals picking is not Marvin Harrison Junior. It's Roma Doonza,

1010
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: who he says his comp is Larry Fitzgerald. Oh mine below.

1011
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: Is Harrison still on the board at that point he

1012
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 4: goes number three to New England. Okay, so oh okay.

1013
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: So it's Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels two, Marvin Harrison Junior three,

1014
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 2: A Dunsay four to the Cardinals over a.

1015
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: Tackle at that point interesting.

1016
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: And by the way Daniel Jeremiah tweeted out here, it

1017
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: is if you need to remake your offensive line, this

1018
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: draft is going to provide that opportunity. Talent and depth

1019
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: is there to make a major impact next year.

1020
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: I wouldn't hate that if that's the Cardinals. You have

1021
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: twenty seven, you can take a tackle. You have so

1022
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: much draft capital you could take twenty seven and you

1023
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: could trade up in the first round if you have

1024
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 3: your ey set on a certain tame or if you.

1025
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: Trade out at number four to number eight with Atlanta,

1026
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: then you can still get a receiver at eight, get

1027
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: your tackle somewhere else with that extra pick you get

1028
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: from Atlanta, and then at twenty seven target another position,

1029
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: or at thirty five, you could have gone tackle and then, oh,

1030
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, franchise center because there's at least two

1031
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: of those in this draft. Happened to notice the two

1032
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: starting centers in the AFC Championship game, Creed Humphrey, Tyler Linderbaum.

1033
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: Those names ring a bell, Darren Urban they do. Yeah,

1034
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: two names associated with the Cardinals in recent drafts.

1035
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: Now, to be fair, wasn't that the draft where they

1036
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: traded away their first round pick?

1037
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 2: So they Hollywood Brown? Yeah, they traded away they could

1038
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: have taken so I wouldn't be shocked. Once again, I've

1039
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: said it before, I'll say it again. The year there

1040
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 2: were one really good year they got out of Rodney Hudson.

1041
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: You realized how valuable a true all pro center is

1042
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: to your entire scheme. So I one says, with a

1043
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: really high pick, first round pick in particular, you know,

1044
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: it's quarterback, it's left tackle, it's corner, its edge, I

1045
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: would throw center in there. I really would.

1046
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: What about what you saw from Yell Defrohold, though, of

1047
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 3: you can still use those other positions you just listed.

1048
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: Ye, right, it's possible, and you know what if you

1049
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: still need a left guard. Guess what?

1050
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 4: Yell?

1051
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 2: Defrohold has plenty of experience of guard, so you could

1052
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 2: start them out at center, bring the rookie along slowly,

1053
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: and eventually ease them in and then yell to guess

1054
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: what boom get out there to left guard. I don't know.

1055
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: Just get out the.

1056
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: Work through all these scenarios in a mock.

1057
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: Draft, you're good.

1058
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 4: I think it's I just love the fact as we

1059
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 4: sit over here and then Paul brings up one piece

1060
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 4: of paper, and then there's another piece of paper, and

1061
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 4: there's all this stuff. Your prep is unmatched.

1062
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: I'm just throwing all this stuff in there. As I

1063
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: read it, I just throw it in there. I throw it,

1064
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: I condense it. I throw it in there, just cut

1065
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: and paste it, condense it. We'll come back to it

1066
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: because I'm going to throw it out for you guys

1067
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: to consider.

1068
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I don't want to get.

1069
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 3: Rid of them for that of a kid, at least

1070
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 3: not yet.

1071
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: Here's the only thing I found out about the draft

1072
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: this according to Daniel Jeremiah, maybe I need to restate

1073
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: what I've been saying all along is there's no sauce gardener,

1074
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 2: were no corner worthy of number four. Apparently this kid

1075
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 2: out of Bama, Terry and Arnold they have going number six,

1076
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: and a lot of these drafts could be six six overall.

1077
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: Seen in some of these drafts.

1078
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 4: The kid from a smaller school who is at the

1079
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl and I'm forgetting his name right.

1080
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: Now, Mitchell Quinny and Mitchell out of Toledo. Second half

1081
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: of the first round. Now, he really elevated his.

1082
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 4: Side if he's going to make it all the way

1083
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: to twenty seven now, but correct, Yeah, that would be

1084
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 4: a really cool pick at twenty seven.

1085
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: So I mean there are once again, if there was

1086
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: a franchise elite corner at number four, I think the

1087
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Speaker 2: Cardinals would go that direction. If there was a franchise

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Speaker 2: elite pass rusher at number four, I do think the

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Speaker 2: Cardinals would go that direction. That guy does not appear

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Speaker 2: to be there this year. There isn't a Mile Scarett.

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Speaker 2: There is a Sauce Carter Derek Stingley Junior, which we

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Speaker 2: saw in Houston. He ended the year really strong. I

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Speaker 2: think he was the AFC called the defensive player of

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Speaker 2: the month. Yeah. Will Anderson, who once again better not

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Speaker 2: be the Rookie.

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Speaker 3: Of the Year and not only that the Cardinals need

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Speaker 3: to beef up their offensive line's it's in need. When

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Speaker 3: DJ Humphries is going to be out for months.

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Speaker 4: We'll get a sense of this when when they go

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Speaker 4: through free agency. We talked earlier about the defensive needs.

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Speaker 4: There's still some possibility of doing some things on the

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Speaker 4: offensive side, and you may not choose to. Like, if

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Speaker 4: you decide Paris Johnson's gonna be my left tackle, maybe

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Speaker 4: you just get a serviceable right tackle.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I'm gonna last thing I'm gonna share

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Speaker 2: is from media Knight, what they call opening Night. Jed York,

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Speaker 2: the owner of the Niners, this is a Brock Party

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Speaker 2: anecdote Local guy twenty seventeen Arizona Cardinals high school player

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Speaker 2: the year Brock Party, and he shared an anecdote from

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Speaker 2: training camp twenty twenty two. Brock Purty, last player taken

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00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: in their draft. Kyle Shanahan tapped him on their shoulder

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Speaker 2: and said, Boss, we got to talk. And he said, normally,

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00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: when that happens, it's not good. And they closed the

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00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: door and Kyle Shanahan said, the best quarterback out there

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00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: is the rookie, and Jed York said, come again, it's

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Speaker 2: not Jimmy Garoppolo, it's not Trey Lance. We just traded

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Speaker 2: three first round picks for it's what's the kid's name again, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Brock Purdy. He's the best quarterback out there. And then

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Speaker 2: they went and asked Kyle Shanahan about that, and he

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Speaker 2: relayed the story and said that it wasn't exactly great

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Speaker 2: news at the time because the seventh round pick was

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Speaker 2: out playing in training camp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he let's make this Claire. He wasn't saying that

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Speaker 4: Brock Purdy was going to be this great quarterback. He

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Speaker 4: was saying he was the best out of the three

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Speaker 4: they had at that point.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good point, good, good clarification right there. And then

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Speaker 2: they asked him, well, how did you know to bet

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Speaker 2: the future of the franchise on Brock Purty. As glorious

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Speaker 2: as the end of his rookie season was, he wasn't

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Speaker 2: a starter until December, you know, was the sample size

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00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: big enough? And he said, well, we knew because everything

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Speaker 2: he was doing in the games, he'd been doing in

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Speaker 2: practice every single day, and when it translated seamlessly from

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Speaker 2: practice to the game, that's when we knew. That's when

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Speaker 2: they parted ways with Jimmy Garoppolo and then eventually Trey Lance.

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Speaker 3: What happens to Trey Lance Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: I'm not where he is. What happens he ain't playing

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Speaker 4: in Dallas?

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be crazy?

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00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys decided not to give Dak Prescott an extension, and.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, that's that's that's really interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's didn't didn't the talking head shows the

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Speaker 2: day after Dallas was ousted from the playoffs? Didn't they

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00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: have their highest ratings in like several years because it

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00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: was al Dallas Cowboys talk? So based on that return

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Speaker 2: on investment, guess what if the Dak Prescott thing blows

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00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 2: up in the off season? Get ready for wall to

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Speaker 2: wall NonStop coverage. It's coming from all the platforms.

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Speaker 4: Quick question, as somebody who's from Dallas, there Isn't it

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Speaker 4: always wall to wall Dallas Cowboys? Like? Is there something different?

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to burst his bubble.

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Speaker 4: I know, I understand.

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Speaker 2: Only when the Lakers and lebron get in the way,

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Speaker 2: that's when it ceases to be Okay, all right, So

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Speaker 2: there you go. Any souvenirs you brought home for Darren

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Speaker 2: Danny from Orlando anything. Did you bring them anything?

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Speaker 3: No? I did not. I did not really venture out

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Speaker 3: around Orlando.

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Speaker 4: It's it's Orlando.

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Speaker 3: It's Orlando. Do you guys want anything from Vegas?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 4: I just want the best anecdotes, but I want real anecdotes,

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Speaker 4: not this sanitize is going to bed at ten stuff.

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Speaker 2: Danny, I hate to say it. You're not going to

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Speaker 2: live up to the plans that Roy Jetstream Green has

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Speaker 2: in store, because he told us in the Red Sea

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Speaker 2: Report that he's heading out for the weekend with Charles Barkley.

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Speaker 2: Year nobody does Vegas like Charles Barkley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine nobody does anything like Charles.

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Speaker 2: But he's especially a made man. So my super Bowl

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Speaker 2: weekend I will live vicariously through Charles Barkley and Roy

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Speaker 2: Jetstream Green. And to a lesser degree, Danny, whatever.

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Speaker 3: She has planning, way lesser degree.

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Speaker 2: And that'll do it for this edition of Cardinals Underground,

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