1 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Fantasy 2 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Pros No sorry, Betting Pros NFL podcast. I'm your host, 3 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Dan Harris. You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris. 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Hadi with me is Matt part You can find him 5 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Sports Talk Matt Matt. What's going on? 6 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: So it's one of those days, right, We're just gonna 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 2: roll with it, like, just don't even worry, Like, right, 8 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: we can say whatever we want. 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're good. 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: Just loose, no worries. 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that every day? Are we not loose? Because 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: all I do is just talk nonsense? 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear. This is that time of the year, right. 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: The bags under my eyes will show you exactly what 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: I've been dealing with in terms of work and everything 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: else has been going on in the world right now. 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, look, we had a good week last week. 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: Let's let's do it again. We're slowly but surely climbing 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: up the these leader boards here with the DraftKings Picks contest. 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's go through it as we always do. 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: And again we are going to as we always do here, 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: get to every game on the slate because that is 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: what we do. But hopefully we will settle on our 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: five picks for the Draft Kings contest. I'm also going 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: to give you because the lines they come out and 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: they lock on Wednesday morning, I believe, is when they 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: come out for the DraftKings contest. So sometimes they're predicting, 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: as Matt has explained, where they think the line is 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: going to end up. But I'll also reference our betanalyzer 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: over at betting pros dot com, which really check out, 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: which basically has the contensus lines. You can also check 32 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: on my book and I'll let you know either against 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: the spread. We'll talk about maybe sprinkling some over unders 34 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: as well, even though they're not in the DraftKings contest 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: where the majority of experts are leaning. So I believe 36 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: we were what were we eight and said? No, we 37 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: were eleven and nine coming into last week, right. The 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: picks that we wound up going with were the Steelers 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: laying seven and a half to the Eagles chick which 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: we won and we knew about that. We went public 41 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: with the Panthers getting two and a half from the 42 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: Falcons didn't matter. We won. We went with the Colts 43 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: laying one and a half against the Browns, which we 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: sort of. You know, we talked about afterwards we weren't 45 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: sure we're going to do it, but we wound up 46 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: going with that. 47 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: Game in the forty nine Ers were the one games 48 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: that we because we had three that we knew and 49 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: we were good, and then we had two that we 50 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: kind of were wishy washy on and those two are 51 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: the ones we lost. 52 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so the forty nine ers laying eight and a half, 53 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: they almost almost covered against the Dolphins. They lost by 54 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: thirty six, I believe, but we did go after Matt 55 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: berated me on the podcast. This is what, by the way, 56 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: I love. I wish everybody could just have a private 57 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: view of like my messages with Matt, because literally I 58 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: was like, I kind of want the Vikings getting six 59 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: and a half from the Seahawks, and he was like, 60 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: you want to go against Russ in prime time with 61 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Are you crazy? And then legitimately I check 62 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: with him every Saturday night. I was like, you know 63 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about? I think I like the Viking 64 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: cause I was like. 65 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: Wait, well no, everything I liked the Vikings. I mean 66 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: I always preface is that like just because I think something, 67 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 2: I go and talk to people. I'm not someone who 68 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: thinks that I'm smarter than everybody else, and it's me 69 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: versus the world. I go and do research and I 70 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: ask those people behind the counter, and I normally run 71 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: our picks by them, and I say, okay, what do 72 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: you think? And the one that they said, we're uh 73 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: was Seattle, And I was like, you got to be 74 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: kidding me, And they're like, all the metrics, you would 75 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: think that it's Seattle, but that line's too heavy, and 76 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: lo and behold, Seahawks win. But the line was too heavy. 77 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we knew. Don't doubt me. And of 78 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: course I have earned the right to whenever I want 79 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: pick a Jets game. As the Personal destroyed the Jets. 80 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Now we'll see whether or not I think this is 81 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: a week worth taking, but I have unfettered authority. Now 82 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: after that game, we are in one hundred and seventy 83 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: ninth place out of six hundred eight nins. That's not 84 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: bad at all. Now we need a week, okay, we 85 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: need like the four and one or the five and 86 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: zero week to really get there. But so long as 87 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: we avoid any of these like really crushing weeks, because 88 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: it's it's a landline out there. We're going to keep 89 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: steadily moving up. We've gone from like two fiftieth and 90 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks it's going three and two. 91 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: We moved up to one hundred and seventy nine, so 92 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: we are getting there. We are fourteen and eleven, so 93 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: that is solid, So let's keep it going. 94 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: Are we really well, we're three games or five hundred now? 95 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we're at fifty six percent. Yeah, we're fourteen 96 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: and eleven. 97 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: Now. In most years, the winning you have to be 98 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: around In the beginning part of the of the Westgate 99 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: Super Contest, if you scored anywhere above sixty five percent, 100 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: you normally were in the money. This now because it's 101 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: been so crazy, now you need to be somewhere in 102 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: the neighborhood of seventy two seventy three percent to win. 103 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: But given the number of people in our contest, I 104 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 2: would say that sixty percent is going to be pretty decent. 105 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: So if we keep if we move up a little 106 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: bit and get around sixty percent, I think we're going 107 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: to be pretty good here across the entire season. 108 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: So right now, the payoff structure cuts at sixty five percent, 109 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: So if you're sixty five percent right now, you'd be catching. 110 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: But what's fascinating, Matt, is so almost everyone who has 111 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: cashed this, This is actually fascinating. Almost everyone who was 112 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: cashed has used at least one of their bye weeks. Wow, 113 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: like already yet a reminder in the DraftKings contest to 114 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: get two by weeks okay of the sixteen weeks, so 115 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: it only goes through week sixteen. You can take two 116 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: weeks off, and Matt and I've kind of been saving them. 117 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: I've been a little more willing to use them if 118 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, we didn't use it last week, 119 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: which is good because we went through and two. But 120 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: the vast majority, I mean, you've got guys, who are 121 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, thirteen to twenty, You've got some of you's 122 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: two they're ten out of fifteen and they're cashing right now, 123 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 1: so they're stuck. 124 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: They must have forgot. The only way I could see 125 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: you using two different weeks is like you just forgot 126 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: to enter in you something got coming caught up with 127 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: you or something, because yeah, why would you use both 128 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: knowing what potentially is coming in November and December? 129 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? I know, I know, I don't get it. But 130 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: I would say, because. 131 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: Hel phone would be to be leading the contest and 132 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: just sit on it, yeah, and just say sure, you guys, 133 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: come catch us. Like it would be not that we're 134 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: going to be in first place, but if you were 135 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: to have a free bye week, to have a bye 136 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,559 Speaker 2: week off and be like, you guys, come get us. 137 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it all right. Well, anyway, I would say, 138 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: of the people who are cashing right now, at least 139 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: eighty percent have used one by week. 140 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: Wow, So good, okay. 141 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, So anyway, everybody is fascinated with the 142 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: whole story of the DraftKings Championship, of course, but let's 143 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: get into this week's games. That's what we're doing here. 144 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: A couple of reminders. One, no prop bets I failed 145 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: last week. I usually get Matt a couple of prop 146 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: bets the night before. I am on a well. My 147 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: house is on a well. That's where we draw water 148 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: and are well ran dry. And when you have yes 149 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: corrupt turn out in New Hampshire. 150 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: So I know that my brothers nor getting former and 151 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: Western mass he's praying for rain. 152 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it is. And so when you have 153 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: a family of four and a stressed out wife and 154 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: two kids, and you can't flush toilets and you can't 155 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: take showers. Things like that get in the way. I 156 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: will not fail you again. My well runs dry. I 157 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: will still have three props waiting, I promise, and if 158 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: you want those props. Matt obviously should be listening to 159 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: the Baalley Juice podcast, my favorite podcast other than this one, 160 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: where he gives every day fifteen minutes in the morning, 161 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: he gives out his best bets and he will give props. 162 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: In addition, Sunday mornings eleven am to twelve pm on 163 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: the Betting Pros YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash Stunning Pros, 164 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: Matt does an our live stream. I provided my props there. 165 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: He's going to lay in there, so make sure you 166 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: subscribe and tune into that. In the meantime, let's do 167 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: what we always do, Matt. You get your first choice 168 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: any game you want. Let me know what your top 169 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: pick is on the slate. 170 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: Do I need to describe what? Do I need to 171 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: say it? 172 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? You need to say it. I don't know what 173 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: it is? 174 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: Yes you do? 175 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: No, I don't what is it? 176 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: Yes? You do? You know? 177 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: What is? All right? Hold on? 178 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 179 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: Well, I got it. I'm sorry, I do know exactly 180 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: what it is. What it is, insert team playing the 181 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: Buffalo bit is that right? 182 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: And they just happen to be playing the best team 183 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: in football. 184 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: Okay, the Chiefs are laying three and a half to 185 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in Buffalo, and this is now on 186 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Monday Night. I believe did this? 187 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: This is supposed to be the name Thurday Night Monday 188 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: Night game? Correct? Yep? 189 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Matt, make your case as to why 190 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: you do. I mean, you're just a little. 191 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: Bill's defense is absolute trash. And even if White comes 192 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: back in places which he looks like he's. 193 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: Going to, he does. 194 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: Yes, they can't stop any one. And this is a 195 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: pissed off team who is really angry about losing to 196 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: the Raiders. And you've got a team that I think 197 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: is going to come up and put a number. I'm 198 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: gonna put it at forty. The Chiefs will score forty 199 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: on the Buffalo Bills coming up on Monday Night. 200 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I have this one on my list, so 201 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that this will be one that we 202 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: will go with. And I'm never gonna run away from 203 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: backing Patrick Mahomes under any circumstances. I do not despise 204 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: the Bills as Matt that. I mean, I can't imagine 205 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: how happy you were on Tuesday night. 206 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: Because it's funny because people dn me from the Daily 207 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: Juice audience and they were like, why didn't you rub 208 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: it in more that Josh Allen threw two picks and 209 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: looked horrible, Like you said he was going to one 210 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: of those. 211 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: One of those obviously was not in any way his 212 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: fault that bounced off, but still he threw two picks going. 213 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: Through two picks, and the pick that he threw to 214 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: Martin Malcolm Butler was pathetic. 215 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: Well, he threw two to Malcolm Butler. 216 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, but for the second one was a real bad one. 217 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: The first one was a deflection. 218 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: The first one was a deflection. 219 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: That one wasn't his fault, yeah, the second one was 220 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: one hundred percent of his fault. And I just I 221 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: don't need to take a victory lap on it because 222 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: it's just like, yeah, this is who this team is. 223 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is a regression coming. And 224 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm telling you on November the first, when the Patriots 225 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: play against the Bills, that game will be for first 226 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: place in the division, and everybody thought it was over. 227 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: Bills are gonna run away with it. Oh my gosh. 228 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: They were breathlessly talking up an MVP candidacy for Josh Allen. 229 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: No Chiefs all right, late three and a half. 230 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: So I am also in on this there are You know. 231 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: I do not feel the same way about the Bills 232 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: that Matt does, and I do think there's a chance 233 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: they're going to be a little angry here. They were 234 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: pretty embarrassed on national television, essentially by the Titans. They 235 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: are getting healthier. John Brown has even looks like I 236 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: think he practiced fully today, so he'll probably play. That 237 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: does do a benefit. But again, the Chiefs coming off 238 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: the loss in particular is really what They're gonna. 239 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: Be great, and they should have lost to the Patriots. Yeah, 240 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: if Cam Note plays in that game. They're coming off 241 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: two losses. They've been they're trending in the wrong direction, 242 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 2: So that's why I like them to bounce back. 243 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: Now. They're gonna be down Sammy Watkins in this game, 244 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: not that big deal because Migel Hardman is very good 245 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: and he will play. I think they're gonna look to 246 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: get back on track here, So I'm not scared off 247 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: by the three and a half. It is in Buffalo, 248 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: but there are no fans and it's not cold yet, 249 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: so I don't think the home field advantage matters that 250 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: much other than the familiarity. And again, not a hugely 251 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: short week because it's a Monday night game, but they 252 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: it is a short week for the Bills since they 253 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: played Tuesday. The line, the consensus line on betting bros 254 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: Like Combatech and Jack, has moved to minus four, so 255 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: it is trending in the direction that we are thinking. 256 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: And sixty eight percent of the consensus of experts against 257 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: the spread are favoring the Chiefs, so we are not alone. 258 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: And I'm fine. Basically, I'll put that one in pen 259 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 1: because I'm I'm good to go. Though. Okay, let me 260 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: know how you feel about this one, Matt, because I 261 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: don't love that many games this week, but I do 262 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: like a few, and the Chiefs and the Bills were 263 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: one of them. I know it's a divisional game, which 264 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: usually scares me off, but I think in this game 265 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: there are a lot of warning signs for the Browns 266 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: who are flying high, and I kind of like the 267 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Steelers laying three and a half. Here's my case number one, 268 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: obij I don't want to speculate because we don't know, 269 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: but he left today with an illness. I guess he 270 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: hasn't gotten his test pack unless I've missed it. Twitter 271 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: is down by the way as we record this, or 272 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: at least it was, so I don't know if he 273 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: got that. Jarvis Landry also backed up, has missed practiced. 274 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: When I hear Baker Mayfield is trending in the right 275 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: direction to play, like the Ribs are bothering him, that 276 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: the Steelers defense is gonna I know the Browns have 277 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: a good offensive line, but they get a ton of pressure. 278 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna batter and bruise him, and I 279 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: think they're gonna do a lot of stuff. Meanwhile, the 280 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: Steelers Deanthony Johnson is practicing, so he's probably gonna play. 281 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: They found their gem and Chase Claypool. Hopefully they know 282 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: how to get involved. This is just a better team. 283 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: And I don't love Mike Tomlin like backing him under 284 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: any of these circumstances, but I do just think right now, 285 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: given that Mayfield is banged up, given that OBJ potentially 286 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: won't play, given that Landry is banged up. Given that 287 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: again they're down Nick Chubb and I know Kareem Hunt 288 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: looks great, but it is a loss. So for me 289 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: divisional game, I get it, but I'm still willing to 290 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: take That's my number one pick, the Steelers. I think 291 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: three and a half to the Browns. 292 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: It's my number two pick. 293 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, this is. 294 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: We don't need to do very much with it. It's 295 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: my number two pick in the week. And I often 296 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: whenever I talk Steelers, I go talk to Dave Shriff, 297 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: pais from Pittsburgh, yep. And the number I think he 298 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: told me is Cleveland has won one time in their 299 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: last twenty. 300 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: In Pittsburgh yep. 301 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel pretty good about taking the Pittsburgh Steelers. 302 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: But three out of the spread is the consensus spread 303 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: on betting process. Again, I'm looking at the bed analyzer, 304 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: which is a really cool tool because you can look 305 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: at the varies different you know how it is over 306 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: under on the money line, and just where people are 307 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: coming out and where it's moving. It is still at 308 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: three and a half and sixty seven percent around the 309 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: Steelers and the consensus, by the way, just so you know, 310 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: it's not an overwhelming thing that just like, well, we 311 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: like the favorites at all. That's not the way it works. 312 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, people are putting in you know a lot 313 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: of times you see value in the underdogs. But right 314 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: now both our picks have essentially two thirds of the 315 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: people who are making picks on vettingpros dot com along 316 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: with us. I feel good about it. Okay, I feel 317 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: good about too. Let's get some dissension, Matt, who's your 318 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: number three? 319 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: All right? I don't know if it's gonna be dissension 320 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: or not, but I look at this Green Bay team 321 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 2: and I'm really, I really like what I'm seeing out 322 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: of this offense. I love the balance. I think lafloor 323 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: and I thought there was some potential for Aaron Rodgers 324 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: and Matt Lafleur to hate each other this year. I 325 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: thought the drafting of Jordan Love was going to drive 326 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 2: a wedge in this locker room, and it's been the opposite. 327 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: No one's even talking about this kid. Now. They blew 328 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: a first round pick on a quarterback. Never should have 329 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: done that. But they're getting healthy. This defense for the 330 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: Bucks is decent, but I just I'm a little concerned 331 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: about what this offense is looking like for the Bucks. 332 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I thought Gronk was going to be a 333 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: really big weapon in the red zone. He's been exult 334 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: He's been literally invisible in the red zone. I think 335 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: the running game is okay, but they're very banged up 336 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: still in with their running back depth. I think their 337 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: offensive line is okay but not great. Brede's getting hit, 338 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: and I think this Packer's defense is a little bit 339 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: sneaky here. I like Green Bay. The number has moved 340 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: quite a bit in favor, I think towards the Tampa 341 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: Bay Bucks, which is really kind of interesting, and I'm 342 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: kind of confused by the line movement. I like green 343 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: Bay minus two and a half here on the road 344 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: under a field goal. 345 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: So what is interesting is that the Bucks are getting 346 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: two and a half points. You said it's moved towards 347 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: the Bucks. The consensus line is actually only the Bucks 348 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: plus one. Okay at the moment, right, So that's basically 349 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: where you were going with it. I'm not sure. I 350 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: don't have a good feel for this game. That's basically 351 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: what I'm going to say here the Packers. Okay, first 352 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: of all, I like how delicate you were being in 353 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: describing you know what this looked like coming into the 354 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: season for the Packers. Yeah, it looked like a disaster. 355 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: They basically ignored Rogers coming in whatsoever into the draft. However, 356 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: they are playing extremely well. But they've beaten the Vikings 357 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: when the Vikings didn't have a secondary to know what 358 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: they were doing, the Lions, the Falcons, and the Saints, 359 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: which I'll give him the Saints, you know that was 360 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: a good win. I when you first messaged me with 361 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: this game, I thought you were taking the Bucks side 362 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: of it. Is that true? By the way I was, 363 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: and you got talked out of it. 364 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: No. I went and read a couple of different stories 365 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: and looked at a couple of different lines, and then 366 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: talked to a friend of mine from Pro Football Focus, 367 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: and they're very concerned about the Bucks offense. Okay, that 368 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: they have very low grades on a lot of a 369 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: lot of the players. Injuries or no injuries. No, Godwin 370 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: being out is significant. Evan's not being healthy is significant. 371 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: I think Godwin may play, that's the thing. He returned 372 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: to practice. 373 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: If he plays it, okay, but he's still not. Him 374 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: and Brady are still not on the same page. And 375 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: I'm still concerned about I mean, O. J. Howard's gone 376 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: for the year, Gronk has been I mean, not a 377 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: part of this offense at all, And I'm just I'm 378 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: concerned about this offense for Tampa. And I think I 379 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: think that the Bucks are going to score, are gonna 380 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: give up thirty here to the Packers. So I mean, 381 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: Demante Adams coming back. 382 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Adams is coming back, and and Vi Devea is 383 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, that's a big loss them. 384 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: And you got Aaron Jones running the football, and their 385 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: best run stopping defensive lineman is not playing. 386 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: They're run their defense is so good. I think this 387 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: is one where I'm probably I think I'm on the 388 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: other side, so I think i'd probably stay away from it. 389 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: I don't love like, it wasn't one of my top 390 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: choices to be like give me the Bucks or anything 391 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: like that. Also, I get it they should have won that. 392 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I realized they lost to the Bears, but 393 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: they should have won that game pretty easily, despite the 394 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: fact that they nobody a wide receiver, even you know, 395 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: Evans was banged up. I think an angry Brady if 396 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: he gets Godwin back. You know, I don't know, I 397 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: don't want to bet against them in Taba, so I 398 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: think that's a stay away from me. But that's fine. 399 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: You're not gonna like this game. I can guarantee that 400 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: I like the Bears getting two and a half from 401 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: the Panthers in Carolina. Here is why the Panthers have 402 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: looked very good last couple of games, but they don't 403 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: do great against good defenses. Seventeen points against the Bucks, 404 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: twenty one points against the Chargers. It's not like they're 405 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: putting up a ton of points. I don't think they're 406 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: going to be able to put up a ton of 407 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: points against the Bears, who are essentially off of Mini 408 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: BI because they got it on Thursday, and now I 409 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: get it, it's in Carolina. I get it. Nick Foles 410 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: at many points in that game looked terrible. But this 411 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: is kind of a classic case of selling a team 412 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: when they're high. And I think the Panthers are not 413 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: as good as they looked. I think their defense is 414 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: still bad. I think Dave Montgomery's finally going to have 415 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: a really good game in this one. I think the 416 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: Bears defense is really what does it for me? So 417 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: I like the Bears getting two and a half from 418 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: the Panthers in Carolina. 419 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater is sixteen and four against the spread and 420 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: plus twenty games. Yeah, so you're going against Joe Brady 421 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: and a team that looks better and better and better 422 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: every week. 423 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. This is classic case of selling. I de SENSEI 424 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: by the way, is moving in. This is moving in 425 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: the Bears. 426 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but yeah, I know. I can't take 427 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: this Bears offense. I just it's just such a train wreck. 428 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: It's just such a disaster right now. In terms of 429 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: if Bridgewater gets rolling and puts up some points, I. 430 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: Just well, I think the Bears road. 431 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just Jacimra. 432 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: Road, you know, home road, I. 433 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: Guess there in Carolina though, Yeah, I know. 434 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: But you know, when it's very different when you have 435 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, seven thousand however many fans they have or whatever, 436 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: you know. 437 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen people starting to push Matt Rule 438 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: for Coach of the Year. 439 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: Right I I That is classic, though, That's exactly what 440 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That is classic overreaction to a couple of 441 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: wins off teams that aren't that great and being like, 442 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: look at this, you think if. 443 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: You don't think the Bears are a good team they'll do. 444 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: No, I don't. 445 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: I don't like it. So they're in the same vein 446 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 2: as all the teams they've beaten. 447 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: But I think they have a legitimate defense. That's what 448 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: I think about the Bears. So I think that the 449 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: fact that the Bears are four and one right now 450 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: is silly. But I do think that they have a 451 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: legitimate defense, and I think that that's where the Panthers 452 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: offense is going to struggle. I still think, you know 453 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: and all, that the Panthers run defense, which is terrible 454 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: to begin with. They're down a few players now coming 455 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: into this game as well. So I really do think 456 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: that the style that Matt Naggie probably wants to run 457 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: in this game, he's going to be able to run. 458 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: So I like the Bears. I'm gonna be on the 459 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: Bears just on my own, but that's fine outside the 460 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: kind of we agreed on the first two, disagreed on 461 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: the next two. Let's go to your next pick. By 462 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: the way, I will say sixty one percent at the 463 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: right now, the consensus lines the Panthers laying one. That 464 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: sixty one percent are on the Panthers, So they're on 465 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: your side on that one. I don't care. I'll be 466 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: on an island. 467 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 468 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: Mean, all right, go ahead for your next pick. 469 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: So the next bunch here, those are the three like 470 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: I like, Carolina, Steelers and the Chiefs in Carolina, the 471 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: three that I like a lot. 472 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: The next way you liked Carolina. That was one of 473 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: your picks. 474 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't know if I wrote it 475 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: to you or not, but I've got my list. 476 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: No, no, you don't have to not that you wrote it 477 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: to me. But even now you were going to say. 478 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: Carolina, Yeah, it's all right, it's on my list of 479 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: of I've got basically, Steelers will no let me Yeah, 480 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: Steelers in the Chiefs from my top two. Then Carolina 481 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: came in three number four. My four, five, and six 482 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: picks here are all kind of in the same boat 483 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: of like, I'm not comfortable. I don't like it, but 484 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: I will. 485 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: Well, you listed the Packers as well, all right. 486 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did like Green Bay. I just sorry 487 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: I crossed out Green Bay because you said no across 488 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: North Carolina. So the next one is Dallas, and this 489 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: is going to be a very popular pick here, and 490 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: it's the Cardinals. There's something really wrong with this Cardinals team. 491 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: Chandler Jones is now up for the year, their defense 492 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 2: can't really tackle anybody, and Andy Dalton's not an awful 493 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: quarterback by any means. I think there is a win 494 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: one for the Gipper type of moment here for the 495 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. This is going to be a very public play. 496 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 2: We're catching two and a half points at home in 497 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: prime time on Monday night, and I love Kyler Murray 498 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: to pick up some nice yardage here. But you know, 499 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: you know, Vanderla may play in this game, which would 500 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: be a real big step up for that defense. He 501 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 2: was able to go. He's back at practice. I just 502 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 2: think there's something up here with this Cardinals team, and 503 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: I think they go back to being what they always 504 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: should have been. I think with Dallas, and that's a 505 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: Zeke heavy team, run the football, pound the rock, play 506 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 2: ball control, and try to keep their defense off the field. 507 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: So I think Dallas catching two and a half points 508 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: is the side I like there. 509 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: It is. I mean, the spread is moving towards Dallas. 510 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: If I like a side, it would be Dallas. But 511 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: this from the guy who is like I can never 512 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in primetime. You want to get Andy Dalton 513 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: in primetime, that's where you want to go. 514 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: It's more it's more like I think the team rallies. 515 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: I think the same like with the Texans and the 516 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: Texans coming back and winning that game against Jacksonville, and 517 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: I mean, jackson was so bad. But I just I 518 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 2: think there's something up with this Cardinals offense. And if 519 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: you look at the passing attack, for I mean, they're 520 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: not giving the ball to Hopkins as much as they 521 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: should be, and there's been some regression there from the 522 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: quarterback in Murray. So he's still run the ball a lot, 523 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: but he's not throwing the ball down the field nearly 524 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: as much as you would like. And all these safeties 525 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: are creeping up to the line of scrimmage and saying, 526 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: go ahead, throw over the top, and they don't do it. 527 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: So I don't know what to make of what's going 528 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: on with the Cardinals. It's more of a fade on 529 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: the Cardinals than it is a take on Andy Dolon. 530 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say this, I don't hate it. I'll put 531 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: it to the side. Okay, it's the right side of 532 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: the pick. I think it is, by the way, so 533 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: on the bed analyzer, I can sort by heavily picked 534 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: one side to none. It's fifty to fifty. Okay, the 535 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys one and a half. I'm going to be on 536 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys when I picked the game. I'm just not 537 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: trying one it for the contest. But if we can't agree, 538 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: that's one where I might be willing to plus. It's 539 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: fun to bet a Monday. 540 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: Night game, by the way, but we already have one 541 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: with k C. 542 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: That's true. 543 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: That's true. 544 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: So you double it up and double your pleasure, double 545 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: your fun. Yeah, I might. I might. Let's put that 546 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: one in the maybe category, so I don't. We're not 547 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: nixing it. You may nix this one after what happened 548 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: to us last week with this team, it's the forty 549 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: nine ers getting three and a half from the Rams. 550 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: I feel like we're both generally a little high on 551 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: the Rams this year, so it's kind of weird. You know, 552 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: we like the whole There are no you know, fans 553 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: to bother Jared Goff and McVeigh in his ear. But 554 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: this what happened last week, Man Garoppolo looked terrible, absolutely terrible. 555 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: I think it's just kind of one of those weeks 556 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: they haven't looked great at all for the whole year, 557 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: and they're injured of course throughout. It just felt like 558 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: one of those weeks. And I think they're going to 559 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: be pretty desperate here. I think this is their third 560 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: straight game at home. Yes, if I'm not yet right, 561 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: their third straight game at home. I think Garoppolo is 562 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: going to start. I think that was just a bad growl. 563 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the ankle or whether 564 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: or not whatever it was, I think he just wasn't right. 565 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: It was one of those terrible games. I think it's 566 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: too much of an overreaction how we're looking at with 567 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: the line. I think they're getting a little healthier on defense. 568 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: I've obviously lost you know, Bosa for the full year 569 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: and everything like that, but mostly Witherspoon's going to be back, 570 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: so getting a little healthier in the secondary. Mostard is 571 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: now back that ran do not stop tight ends very well. 572 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: So I think Kittle's going to go crazy. And this 573 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: just strikes me again. I look for these situations where it's, 574 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, kind of Bilo sell high here in this situation, 575 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: and forty nine ers will strike me as a team 576 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: that's Bilo. If I'm getting more than a field goal 577 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: in this game, I'm willing to take it. So that's 578 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: my next pick, go ahead. 579 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: I think we should take it. Really yeah, and a 580 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 2: couple of reasons why won. I wouldn't bet this game, Okay, 581 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: because I feel okay enough putting a pick on it 582 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: for our team versus money. So I again, I talk 583 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 2: to a lot of people about a variety and this 584 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: is a game where one of the people I talk to, 585 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: he's got a guy who runs all these algorithms and numbers, 586 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: and he has this game as Sam Fran minus one. 587 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: The look aheadline was Sam Fran minus three. Now it's 588 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: they're catching three and a half points. Yeah, so we're 589 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: catching six and a half points of value here in 590 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: this game. And it's a divisional game, coming off of 591 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: a horrible performance, and you know this team is going 592 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: to get ripped and screamed at and they're gonna go 593 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 2: crazy for this. They need a victory desperately. Here. It's 594 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: a four and one RAMS team. I don't think they're 595 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 2: a five and one caliber team. And I don't think 596 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: San Fran is this bad. Now, there's always a the 597 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: regression for the team that comes off of a loss 598 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. But this is a team that 599 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: needs a victory in the worst way, and I could 600 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: easily see the Rams winning it on a last second 601 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: kick and we win, and we win on the hook, 602 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: so exactly. I like the three and a half number there. 603 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 2: It's more of a numbers play for the contest than 604 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: anything else. But I think the hook there matters. 605 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: Yep, it's the hook. And right now, by the way, 606 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: the consensus line is down to three at that point, 607 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: it's a little different, right yep. Oh I'm getting something. 608 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: Oh boy, the this only helps us with our pick. 609 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Matt per ESPN. Apparently Le'Veon Bell will be signing with 610 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Chiefs five News, which really, I mean, but 611 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: whatever the spread is, they're gonna win by twelve now 612 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: once Bell is there. No, I'm kidding, Matt. It's completely irrelevan. 613 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: But I don't know. It's irrelevant though, I mean, it's 614 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: it's it is another guy for them to go ahead 615 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: and and and use in the screen game and have him. Yeah, 616 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's a weapon. I mean he 617 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: can catch the football and run the football. 618 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: I just can Edwards Hilaire. 619 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: Though I'm a little weird. I'm a little weirded out 620 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: by that. I mean, that's the only thing that if 621 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: you have any futures on On Edwards, e Layer, winning 622 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year or you know, having a big season, 623 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: if he's on your fancy team or whatnot, then all 624 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: of a sudden, you're bringing in somebody to take away 625 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: touches from him. 626 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: So I don't know, that's that's fair. That's fair. That's 627 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: something that's fair, and you will, you know, factor in. 628 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure Bell will, but I've watched. 629 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: Weird those because he could have. I mean, I supposedly 630 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: the Dolphins threw a ton of money on him. 631 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: He wants to win, he wants to win a Super 632 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: Bowl wants I get. 633 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: That, I do, But I also I also say, like 634 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: you could have gone I don't know, you could have 635 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: gone to a to a team where you were going 636 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: to be utilized and win, you know, and win a 637 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I just feel like there's so many guys 638 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: who want who want touches and an offense already that 639 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: is just such a stacked team already. But it's a 640 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: big move for the Chiefs. I mean, that's that's a 641 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: big weapon. 642 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: Well, that's what we've we've reached our our limit on 643 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: how much we could talk about Leveon Bell. So we've 644 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: got three now, Matt, we've got three that I feel 645 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: okay about. These are three of my top four picks. 646 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: So go to your next one. 647 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: So these next two are just gross and I don't 648 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: know what to do with it, and so I want 649 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: to see kind of how you feel. Go ahead, how 650 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: do you feel about Texans plus three and a half 651 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 2: against the Titans. 652 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: I kind of like that game. I almost had basically 653 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: written it off because I was like, well, you love 654 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: the Titans, justifiably. They've been playing exceptional football. You liked 655 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: them coming in. You took the alternative win total on 656 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: the daily juice, which I love because I really do 657 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: have a rooting interest. It looks like a great call 658 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: by you, as long as they can avoid injury. But yeah, 659 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: I kind of liked that game, but I it was 660 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: like down on my list because I said, there's no 661 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: way Matt's gonna want. 662 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 2: To It's again, it's the same thing like with San Francisco. 663 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: It's the same thing. It's more of a system play 664 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: because it's a divisional game, and like, I don't know, 665 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: I mean, the Titans have been playing so many of 666 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 2: these tight football games, and look they just blew had 667 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: a huge blowout victory. They're playing really angry and they 668 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: were mad and they want to shut everybody up. But 669 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: now they're on the Now. The only thing that scares 670 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: me about this game is this game's at home. This 671 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 2: was at Houston. I feel way more comfortable taking Houston. 672 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: But since it's at Tennessee, like I just, I don't 673 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: know about it. It concerns me about right now. But 674 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: it is one of the games that from a system play, 675 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: you know, catching three and a half points in a 676 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: divisional game. I don't hate it, so I didn't know 677 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: how you feel. How you it's on my list. I 678 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: don't know if you hated it or liked it, but 679 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: I'd be willing to consider it. 680 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: It's on my list. It's on my list. I don't 681 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: want to write it in in penn because I want 682 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: to talk through a couple more games. But it is 683 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: at three and a half that the overwhelming insensus is 684 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: on the Titans at three and a half. But I 685 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: agree with you for the contest. It is sort of 686 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: something and they don't you know. The one thing I said, 687 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: I it's more of the first game out and it's 688 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: not like the Texans played that well against the Jaguars. 689 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: The Jaguars easily could have covered. Yes, that's Brandon the 690 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: goals had a kicker, all right, but the Texans did you. 691 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 1: I mean, Watson threw three touchdown passes. The offense is 692 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: going to look better now that they're facing some softer defenses. 693 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: I think Brandon Cooks looked good as long as Will 694 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: Fuller is healthy, David Johnson is still around, and Deshaun 695 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: Watson is really good. It's a short week for the Titans. 696 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: They're coming off like a huge when like a real 697 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: short week, right, I mean, because they're you know, so 698 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: I I kind of like it, Matt. I could see 699 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: this one being one. 700 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: The pass rush from the Titans just is not there. 701 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: There's just nothing. There's nobody getting after the quarterback. Their 702 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: secondary is good, but their pass rush is not there. 703 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, you give Watson time in the pocket and 704 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: he picks people apart. So that's my that's my concern 705 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: with that. Because the Texans are one in four and 706 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: the Titans are four and oh and do I think 707 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: they go to five? And oh? I mean I have 708 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: them at nine and a half wins, they go to 709 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: five and oh, that would be amazing. But I just 710 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: something tells me that they're due to have all this 711 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: chaos and controversy kind of a flat spot for them 712 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: potentially in their schedule against a team that's totally up 713 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: against a wall. 714 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, this just strikes me as a game that they're 715 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: you know that Houston's going to be able to keep 716 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: close and you're getting the hook. I kind of like it. 717 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: My guess is we're going with it. My guess is 718 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: we're going with it. But let's keep talking through some 719 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: of them. How do you feel this is not you know, 720 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: I have full authority now to do whatever I want 721 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: with the Jets. I'm not exercising it on this game 722 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: because I don't love it, But I am on the 723 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: Dolphins side of the laying eight and a half against 724 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: the Jets. How do you feel right now? We've got 725 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, Sam Darnold already ruled out for the game, 726 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: so it's you know, slinging Joe Flacco there. They may 727 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: get a little healthier wide receiver Brashad Perman is starting 728 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: to practice. I don't think Mims is going to be back. 729 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: I know he's activated off ir but he got twenty 730 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: one days. How do you feel about the Dolphins laying 731 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: eight and a half to the Jets. 732 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: I'd be fine with it. I mean, I think the 733 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: Jets are done. I think they're keeping Audham gaze for 734 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: a reason, and I think that they want to lose, and 735 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: it's just a matter of how many points where they 736 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: lose by. 737 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's up to nine and a half already. 738 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: If you want to still, if you want to stand 739 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 2: on a table and say, this is a game where 740 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: I mean the Patriots are ten point favorites to the Broncos, Yeah, 741 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: the Dolphins are could have just destroyed the Jets. 742 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what makes me hesitant. The reason 743 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm not because I've been jumping on every other Jet. 744 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to be like the Cardinals seven and 745 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: a half. I don't care it's more in a touchdown. 746 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't care that I'm fading the Cardinals at this point. 747 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: The Jets are historically bad at this point. Is that 748 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: it does strike me a little bit as like you 749 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: see fits come out every once in a while and 750 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: just be like, oh, today's the day, Today's the day 751 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: where I'm throwing four interceptions, doesn't matter the opponent, but 752 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: it really is hard. 753 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: But he's keeping Tua on the sidelines by how I know, 754 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: So I think there's something to the fact that he 755 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: doesn't want to give it up. 756 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: You've seen him though enough. Oh, you know that these 757 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: can go away. I think this is one that I 758 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: kind of like, but I'm not one hundred percent putting 759 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: it in, but I lean that way. So right now, 760 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: we could put in this one, and we could put 761 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: in the Texans, and I'd be totally fine with our 762 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: five picks right now. But let's keep talking through any 763 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: other game that you have on your wridar. And I 764 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: will say, by the way, ninety two percent of the 765 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: experts who have made picks are on the on the 766 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: Dolphins who are giving. And again the spread is rising, 767 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, maybe because Darnold was out, maybe because the 768 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: books are slowly realizing we can't make the line high enough. 769 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: You know that that year that the Patriots were favored 770 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: and the Dolphins, you know whatever was that last year? 771 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: Probably Yeah, where the where the spreads just got to 772 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: be like sixteen or seventeen. They're like, we don't really 773 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 1: know when it ends. I feel like it might be 774 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: like that for the Jets, especially with flack O there. 775 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: So let's put that one in the maybe pile. But 776 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards it as well any other games they like, Yeah. 777 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: The last one on my list. And something's up with 778 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: the Colts offense, and I'm just not whether it's Philip 779 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: Rivers and the lack of arm strength or that Jonathan 780 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: Taylor is not the running back that I thought he 781 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: was going to be in the NFL for having a 782 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: great career. The worry he was how much Wisconsin used 783 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: him And I don't know if there's just none enough 784 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: troad on the tires or what. But Cincinnati got embarrassed 785 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: and they couldn't do anything. They were blitzed like crazy. 786 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: And the Colts defense is okay, hey, but they're not great. 787 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: They've been banged up. I know Leonard's coming back and whatnot, 788 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: but I think Joe Burrow to keep this game within 789 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: eight and a half points. I think since he is 790 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: gonna be they might lose, but I think they're in 791 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: the game by a touchdown or lessier against the Colts. 792 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's moving in that direction. It's seven and a 793 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: half now at the consensus sixty four percent of our 794 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: experts like Cincy. Yeah, that's a really tough one for me. 795 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: Do we know about Leonard? Is he practiced? 796 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: Think he's questionable, but I think I think he was 797 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: back at practice today. 798 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: If he plays, that makes me a little less excited 799 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: about it, just because I think that that the whole defense. 800 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: It's just it's hard to see, you know, it's it's 801 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: it's another one that's maybe this is a weird week, Matt, 802 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: because I feel like there are a lot of games 803 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: that I'm like, Okay, I can live with this game, 804 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: Like that's a game. If you were like Dan, I 805 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 1: love this game. This is my game, gotta put it in. 806 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: I think it's okay. I just worry a little bit. 807 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: I agree completely Rivers looks completely toast, like just done, 808 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: like can't do anything. What's However, Taylor looked a little 809 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: better I thought last game, and I think he's you know, 810 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: hopefully they might just need to ride him a little 811 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: more and let him get in a groove as opposed 812 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: to giving touches to Jordan Wilkins and Niam Hines. But 813 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: I agree that it seems weird that they would be 814 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: able to kind of run away with this thing and 815 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: get it by more than a touch on. So let's 816 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: put that one in the maybe pile as well. Let's 817 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: run through a couple other games, sure, and then we 818 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: can tell on how do you feel about the Giants 819 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: slaying too, I'm not picking either side. I'm just giving 820 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: the spread. So I don't think I'm taking the spread 821 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: in New York. The Giants giving two and a half 822 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: to Washington. 823 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: See the whole thing with the quarterback spot with Washington 824 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 2: concerns me a little bit because if I had some 825 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: better idea as to like, Okay, Kyle Allen's playing and 826 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 2: that's it. He is, I know he is, but if 827 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: he gets dinged up, I mean he gets hurt again, 828 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: here comes Alex Smith, so. 829 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, but that's every that's every I know. 830 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: Like if you if you play your first half of 831 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: football in forever for your team and you get hurt 832 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: in the first week, the first the first week, first quarter, yeah, 833 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: I mean come on, Like, I'm just like, something's I'm 834 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: concerned about trusting what Washington could do because I do 835 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 2: think if they get Chase Young back and he's effective. 836 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: I mean I don't like either team in New York 837 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 2: to be quite honest, I don't think any either the 838 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: Jets or the Giant, should be favored against anybody in 839 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: the NFL. 840 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: That's I think the wrong team might be favorite. Yeah, 841 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: that's legitimately how I feel. I think the wrong team 842 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: is favored. 843 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 2: And I just don't know what's going with their offense. 844 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't know if I can trust 845 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: their quarterbacks to stay healthy. And then am I big 846 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: on Alex Smith. 847 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: To if we're betting on Alex Smith again, awesome story, 848 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: incredible to see him out there, But he couldn't you know, Yeah, 849 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: he couldn't. 850 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 2: Thirty nine yards passing in the second half. 851 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: He's not healthy enough, you know, or you know, he 852 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: can't move well enough I think at this point to 853 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: do anything on offense. So yeah, that's fine. But alan 854 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: is is Flinn. I'm not pushing for this game. But 855 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: we're both on the same side. We're both on Washington 856 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: getting two and a half. Okay, But I admit we're 857 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: at the point where I don't like any of these 858 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: games are about to discuss as much as the games 859 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: that we already have discussed. But I do want to 860 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: see so we know when you and I talk about it, 861 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: on Saturday nights. How we feel about it? But I am, 862 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, talk to you guys, because I am. I 863 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: do like washing it. But I agree that if Alex 864 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: Smith were in there, it would make me a little nervous. 865 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: How do you feel about your boys? The Patriots laying 866 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: nine and a half to the Broncos. Cam newton Is 867 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: back sounds like Stefine Gilmore's back. 868 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 2: So according to the Pro Football Focus friends of mine, yes, 869 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 2: they think this line should be fourteen. 870 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not kidding. 871 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: And it's they too. They believe it's too low. They 872 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: believe that Cam Cam and company. This is where my 873 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 2: fandom gets a little oftentime. It's part of my every 874 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 2: every week on the Daily Juice, I do a teaser. 875 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: It missed for the first time all year. It's four 876 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: and one now for a two leg teaser, and it 877 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: missed because the Jacksonville Jaguars kicker missed two two field 878 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: goals two chip shots. If he hits both those field goals, 879 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: that the teasers five and oh, so I got screwed 880 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: by a kicker. This is one of my legs taking 881 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 2: the taking the Patriots and teasing it down and I 882 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,959 Speaker 2: hope more money comes in here and the line stop. 883 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: It's going up. But right now it's ten. I would 884 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 2: teas down to four. If I can get three and 885 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 2: a half or three, I would love it. But the 886 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 2: Patriots are winning this game. My question is by what 887 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: number are they're winning this game? And the Broncos and 888 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: the Patriots have a funky history with each other. It's 889 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 2: just a it's a it's an unseen rivalry. It's not 890 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 2: talked about all that much, but the two franchises hate 891 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 2: each other, like they just straight up hate each other. 892 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 2: So I mean, you get the quarterback back, although I'm 893 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: not a huge fan of him, and I don't hate it. 894 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 2: It's just, you know, double digits. Everyone's saying it should 895 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: be over double digits, so this line would be under 896 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 2: double digits, So I would say I would I don't 897 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 2: hate it. How about that? Which if you said you 898 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 2: wanted to take it, I wouldn't say no. 899 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: No, okay, I don't want to take it. But it 900 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: is one. There's going to be these games, and again 901 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 1: follow us on Twitter, tweet it out Dan Harris Hadi 902 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: and ad Sports Talk Matt where we are going to 903 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: give out our final picks. This is one where one 904 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: hundred percent. I could see if you talk to people 905 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: and you sort of get more info. I like, if 906 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: you say, Dan, I want to do this, we're doing 907 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: because there are something like right now where it'd be 908 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: like if you want to take the panthers, I'm just 909 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: not doing it. Like I like the bear side of it, 910 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: so we're not going to go there. But we're on 911 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: the same side of this one. So it is one 912 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: that we probably will not pick when I recap what 913 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: our picks are at the end, but it is one 914 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: that I would be willing to consider for certain if 915 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: you get better info on it. And again you know, 916 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: it's still the consensus line is still at nine and 917 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: a half. It's sixty four percent around New England. I 918 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: think that's the right side. Even if Drew Locke comes back, 919 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: Even if Melvin Gordon plays, which I guess you. 920 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: Believe that that's how bad this team is, that they 921 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 2: might actually play a guy who had a DUI driving 922 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 2: ninety five and a thirty five whatever heck he was driving. 923 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: Well, you let him know as a lawyer. As a lawyer, Matt, 924 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, everybody is innocent until proven guilty. And if 925 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: they want to let it go out the way they want. 926 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: But I understand two million dollars by the way, with 927 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: that because he has a clause in his contract forgetting 928 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 2: if forgetting arrested. I believe it. I think it is. 929 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 2: And so he lost two million in a clause if 930 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 2: he got in trouble. So it's it's not good for him. 931 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: But while he's going to get suspended, almost without quite 932 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: assuming that there's nothing that you know is missing from 933 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: the story, he's going to get suspended probably for three 934 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: games from the NFL. But it sounds like he might play. 935 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: This is like crazy, like it doesn't I'm I'm going 936 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 1: into it, assuming that Gordon plays right, going into it, 937 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: assuming that Locke is back and healthy, and I still 938 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: like the Patriots right and a half. I don't love it, 939 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: but it is something that's on there for me. Okay, 940 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: let's do a couple of other games here. In these 941 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: games I really don't have a good feel on either way. 942 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: The Lions laying three and a half to the Jaguars 943 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, I. 944 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 2: Mean, this is one in three verses one and four. 945 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: Why are we talking about this game? 946 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: It's gross. I don't want it. I'm glad to pick 947 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: a side. 948 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 2: I'll take the home dog at plus three and a half. 949 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take I think this is the Lions coming 950 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: out party. Look at Jaguars and they win by fours. No, 951 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want any piece of it at all. 952 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: They're both terrible teams. If I have to pick a side, 953 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 1: it would be on the line, just because I think 954 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are terrible. They are getting a little healthy 955 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: on defense, which which does you know? I think Miles 956 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: Jack is back practice at least. But I do think 957 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: that Galladay given full health, that this could be a 958 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: game where the Lions put up a ton of points. 959 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: But it's not a game that I want to go 960 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: anywhere near. I will not be picking either side of 961 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: it with I have to how about the Ravens lak 962 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: seven and a half to the Eagles. 963 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 2: So this is the other side of my teaser. Is 964 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 2: the Ravens down to one and a half? Yep against 965 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: the Eagles, Ravens win. I'm just I don't like the 966 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: hook there, so I feel like a backdoor potential is there, 967 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 2: or maybe a straight blowout and the Ravens destroy him. 968 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 2: But Ravens are winning the game as a matter what 969 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: by how much. 970 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 1: I think if I had to, if I had to bet, 971 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: it would be that the Ravens are gonna just massacre 972 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: them completely. But you do have this thing where Lamar Jackson, 973 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: it didn't look great, didn't look like he wanted to run. 974 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: You know, maybe his knee really is bothering him. Carson 975 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: Wentz is able. I mean, they they look like they 976 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: were just going to get completely destroyed in that Pittsburgh game. 977 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: Then suddenly he turned around. 978 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, wha wait. 979 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: We were like what you and I were texting to 980 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: the were like what the heck is going on here? 981 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: And they the Eagles are getting healthier right now. They 982 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: may have al Seon Jeffery and Deshaun Jackson back for 983 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 1: this game. So it is a game where I'd rather 984 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: stay away. But if I had to choose one seven 985 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: and a half points, I would still go with Baltimore 986 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: despite the hook and sixty three percent of our experts 987 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: feel the same way. How about the Falcons getting three 988 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: and a half from Minnesota. I think that's the only 989 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: game we haven't touched on yet. 990 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 2: Oh and five versus one and four, and I don't 991 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I won't watch one second of this game. 992 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 2: This is just a garbage football game. Dan Quinn getting fired. 993 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 2: It worked for the Texans, so maybe it works for We. 994 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: Talked about that last week. By the way, there is 995 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 1: kind of this. 996 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 2: You know. 997 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 1: Again, it's mostly anecdotal at this point because I haven't 998 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 1: been able. I haven't had enough time to go in 999 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: and quantify it. But I feel like every time I 1000 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: see a coach get fired that first game back, yeah, 1001 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: that team plays a little inspired. 1002 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 2: I had to play, I would take the three and 1003 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 2: a half. I'll take the plus points there. 1004 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: Now, I would take the vikings in this game. But 1005 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: I want absolutely no part of it whatsoever. Okay, So 1006 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: this is Matt, where I think I'm going to put 1007 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: in our You let me know if there's anything off here, 1008 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: or I'm going to put in our potential picks right now. 1009 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put them in. I don't put them 1010 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: in until Saturday night. So I give Matt, me and 1011 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: Matt plenty of time talk. But we're definitely putting in 1012 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: the Chiefs laying three and a half to the Bills. Yes, 1013 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 1: we're definitely putting in the Steelers laying three and a 1014 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: half to the Brown Yes, we're definitely putting in I 1015 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: guess the forty nine ers getting three and a half 1016 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: from the. 1017 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: Ramp Yeah, I'm okay with that. 1018 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: We are prop now these other two are are right 1019 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: now tentative picks. But the Texans getting three and a 1020 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: half from the Titans. And if you had made me 1021 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: make a list of potential, you know, picks that we're 1022 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: going to be in this contest for us, this one 1023 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: would have been like last. 1024 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: This is almost fading myself, by the way, I love it. 1025 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, fade yourself exactly right. And the final one I'm 1026 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna put in, matt Uh. You know, I'm gonna go 1027 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: with the Dolphins, like eight and a half to the 1028 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: Jets for our final one because I think we're both 1029 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: on that side. However, the other ones that we are considering, 1030 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: and so if you are saying, well, I don't really 1031 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 1: care about your picks, guys, I just kind of want 1032 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 1: to know which way you lean. We definitely both lean 1033 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: Dallas getting two and a half points at home from 1034 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: the Cardinals and that line is moving in Dallas' direction. 1035 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: We lean the Patriots laying nine and a half points 1036 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 1: to the Broncos in New England. That's just one where 1037 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't think we can pull the trigger. Other than that, 1038 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: we're kind of back and forth on a couple sides. 1039 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: I like the Bears, you like the Panthers. That in particular, 1040 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: the game that we're actually split on right now are 1041 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Packers, where we're on different sides 1042 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 1: of that game. But that's it. I don't know, Matt. 1043 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: I mean, this is probably the week we go one 1044 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: and four because I'm like, oh, I feel good. I 1045 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: like these picks, but I feel good about these. I 1046 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: think there are a couple of ones that. 1047 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like our top three a lot, and yeah, 1048 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: me too, I think they like last week, we liked 1049 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 2: our top three a lot, And then I think it 1050 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: comes in. And that's really when it comes to these contests, 1051 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 2: and even just when you're betting in general, like the 1052 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 2: bottom you're betting four to five games, the bottom four 1053 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 2: and five are the ones that make or break your 1054 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 2: day or make or break your weekend for the picks. 1055 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 2: So it's just if you have your hot, you go 1056 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 2: five and oh. If if you don't, you go three 1057 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 2: and two. But you just want to keep yourself in 1058 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 2: plus money obviously. 1059 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again another thing to think about at least 1060 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: for the contest. For us is the fact that, as 1061 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: you've mentioned before, New Hampshire is one of the states 1062 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: where people can bet on the DraftKings Contest's that's where 1063 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: I live, and so there's probably gonna be a lot 1064 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: of people picking the Patriots in a game where the 1065 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: Patriots could be picked. So that might be a game that, 1066 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: even though it's under consideration, we might want to fade 1067 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: unless you get info which says no, no. 1068 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm not fading that if we bet that 1069 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 2: we're on the Patriots. 1070 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: No, no, for sure, I wouldn't go the other way 1071 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: whether we put that no, no, no, I'm not going. 1072 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't care what info you have. I'm not back 1073 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: reaching clock and against an angry Bill Belichick and a 1074 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: healthy Patriots deeper short. All right, excellent, that's it. So 1075 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: a reminder, eleven am to twelve pm Eastern time, so 1076 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: eight o'clock on Matt's time. On Sunday mornings, Matt does 1077 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: a YouTube, a live stream on YouTube where he gets 1078 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: breaks down the whole day. I'm going to give him 1079 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: the props. I don't care if I have no water. 1080 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure that I get him my 1081 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: props the night before. It's it's a fun time. Matt 1082 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: interacts with everybody, and listen to the Daily Juice guys, 1083 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: it's it's a great podcast. It's fifteen minutes every morning 1084 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 1: Matt breaks down his best bets. He is close. I 1085 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: don't know what the scores right now, Matt, but you 1086 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: are close to cashing that thousand. 1087 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 2: Plus one thousand rays we made in July, one full 1088 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: unit riding on a plus one thousand bets. So I've 1089 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 2: been watching that like a hawk. This is gonna I mean, 1090 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 2: it's you know, to get ten ten units to go 1091 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 2: ahead and add that to our to our roster, to 1092 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 2: our record. Is going to be a really nice, a 1093 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 2: nice edition plus a hell of a way to start 1094 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: a weekend if I can get the race. It's three 1095 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 2: to two Houston as we speak, though, so. 1096 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: Oh boy, all right, all right, so hopefully they pull 1097 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: it out. But either way, I think they are going 1098 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: to find a way to pull out that series. And 1099 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 1: I have them on I think plus eighteen hundred because 1100 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: I got a little late to win the series. 1101 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 2: World Series. 1102 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: Yes, oh no, and that was that was my one 1103 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: baseball bat and I go, wow, all right, my one 1104 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: real one. I might have sprinkled a little bit on 1105 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: like some small ones like the Rockies to make the playoffs. 1106 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: Give me the thing which that didn't hit. 1107 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. I never make future bets. I 1108 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,399 Speaker 2: made three. I made the the Yankees under thirty seven 1109 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 2: wins that hit. Yes, I have, uh that was minus 1110 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 2: one point fifteen or something like that. I had. And 1111 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 2: I have the Dodgers at plus three thirty to win 1112 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 2: the World Series, and I have and I have the 1113 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: Rays to win the American League. 1114 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 1: Awesome. That well, your futures in football as well, everybody. 1115 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 1: You had the Jets under six and a half, which 1116 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: something tells me you're gonna sneak by by six or 1117 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: seven wins. You've got the alternative win total for the 1118 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: Titans at nine and a half, which looks great at 1119 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: plus one fifty five I think, or something like that. 1120 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: And I think you've got what the Raiders over seven? Yep, yeah, 1121 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: looking pretty good, not bad, not bad, all right, very good. Anyway, 1122 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: listen to the Daily Juicy you can find out Betting 1123 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 1: pros dot com, slash podcast, or anywhere that you listen 1124 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: to podcasts. We will be back every week doing this 1125 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 1: breaking down the Slate. In the meantime, you g reaches 1126 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: on Twitter, as I said, Dan Harris Adi and that 1127 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: Sports Talk Matt And until then we will talk to 1128 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: you on this podcast next week