Speaker 1: It is Monday, December six. This is Jackuar Happy Hour,
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Speaker 1: welcome in its Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday after
Speaker 1: Week thirteen. We've got a busy show ahead, of course,
Speaker 1: every Monday. It's Pete Briscoe's CBS Sports Senior writer. We'll
Speaker 1: hear from pride of the Jaguars left tackle Tony Baselli
Speaker 1: as well, and he is in person this week. We're
Speaker 1: a few Week thirteen, the Rams over the Jaguars by
Speaker 1: thirty thirty seven to seven the final score. Yes, there
Speaker 1: were offensive issues again, Yes, the defense ran out of
Speaker 1: gas in the second half. We'll get to social media questions.
Speaker 1: We'll go around the National Football League. Well, the Rams
Speaker 1: out gained the Jags by a law arge margin. Yesterday.
Speaker 1: Jaguars did not get over two hundred yards of offense.
Speaker 1: They were under it by just a few yards in
Speaker 1: the game, got a ten nothing whole early, fought back
Speaker 1: with a touchdown drive. The defense held them to a
Speaker 1: couple more field goals in the first half. It was
Speaker 1: sixteen seven at halftime and then the Rams pulled away
Speaker 1: with three straight touchdown drives in the second half and
Speaker 1: they got their victory to snap a three game losing skid,
Speaker 1: the Jags losing streak now down to four, and urban
Speaker 1: Meyer breaking it down after the game, I felt like,
Speaker 1: our guys are you know, obviously we've got a lot
Speaker 1: of talent. They were playing against there and and uh
Speaker 1: on the road and all of a sudden, your you know,
Speaker 1: tend we drive the ball. It's ten to seven. Our
Speaker 1: defense is playing excellent past defense. We're playing an excellent
Speaker 1: field position comprimary football there. I'll find out what it was,
Speaker 1: but the average starting field position was we we had
Speaker 1: them pinned down it or most of the first half,
Speaker 1: and you felt pretty good about it, holding the field
Speaker 1: goal in it with thirteen or whatever was sixteen seven,
Speaker 1: thirteen seven at halftime, Man, we're getting the ball. That's
Speaker 1: kind of where you want to be on the road
Speaker 1: against a good team. Let's go and move the ball.
Speaker 1: And we didn't do it. That's urban Meyer after the
Speaker 1: game yesterday, Tony Basselli in studio Pete Prisco joining us
Speaker 1: down in South Florida. Hi, Tony, Hello, um, yeah, here
Speaker 1: we go again and repeat well, and I actually I
Speaker 1: disagree with your defense ran out of gas. While they
Speaker 1: only gave up sixteen points in the first half, that's
Speaker 1: still sixteen points. And they gave up I think it
Speaker 1: was a hundred yards of offense in the first half,
Speaker 1: which is more than the Jackson scored the had the
Speaker 1: entire game. And so but my point, I guess was
Speaker 1: they gave the team an opportunity if the offense had
Speaker 1: done anything. That's fair. That's the point. And then three
Speaker 1: straight touchdown drives to the ramps, they're just thrown it
Speaker 1: all over the right in the first half of you
Speaker 1: would have hoped. I mean, here's I mean to me,
Speaker 1: the telling the turning point or something very telling in
Speaker 1: that game was it's seven. You pin them back, they
Speaker 1: have a bad punt. You have the ball, you know,
Speaker 1: first and ten, with four minutes left and a half
Speaker 1: at the fifty or forty forty ninety nine, you're right
Speaker 1: at midfield and you go three and out, punt them away,
Speaker 1: punt it, pin them deep. But they go right down
Speaker 1: the field and kick a field goal to make it
Speaker 1: sixt seven. The only reason that drive stalled is because
Speaker 1: they dropped the pass, and so the defense started showing
Speaker 1: its cracks to me in that first half, and that
Speaker 1: at that last drive in overall, the biggest disappointing thing
Speaker 1: for me, and and and we talked about this, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure Pete awigh and I think you'll agree with me,
Speaker 1: is that's backed back weeks playing below average offensive lines,
Speaker 1: offensive lines who are not physical in getting pushed around,
Speaker 1: and the team effectively running it right at you much
Speaker 1: better than they have been. And that was troublesome to
Speaker 1: me for the defense. So, I mean, and I think
Speaker 1: what happens sometimes is the offense is so bad that right,
Speaker 1: well the defense is better. Well, just because you're better
Speaker 1: than so bad, it doesn't mean you're good. Yeahs is kind.
Speaker 1: You're being kind to that offense, don't he? But you
Speaker 1: agree with one of the worst offenses I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It is so bad. I mean, it is terrible. They
Speaker 1: can't do anything nothing. They've taken a cannon throwing quarterback
Speaker 1: and turned him into nothing. He's a shell of himself.
Speaker 1: His mechanics have waned. He seems like his eye levels
Speaker 1: come down. They don't do anything to get open the run.
Speaker 1: Games of disaster. The offensive line, which we've been saying
Speaker 1: for weeks was going to be was decent. Now is
Speaker 1: it playing well? Because they were dominated on on Sunday too.
Speaker 1: It's a bad offense and the defense it's not awful
Speaker 1: but good either. It's a it's a bad football team.
Speaker 1: In fact, they're the worst team in the league right now.
Speaker 1: Can you argue that they're the worst team in the
Speaker 1: league they're playing the worst football? Yes, I could say that.
Speaker 1: I think the rights I've seen I've yeah, I've watched
Speaker 1: the Lions. I mean I called their game. I've actually
Speaker 1: done two of their games. They're better. Yeah, they won yesterday. Also, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're better now. The Texans got blown out, so they
Speaker 1: I think it's like the argument is like, who's worse
Speaker 1: the Texans of the Jags, And we're gonna find out
Speaker 1: in two weeks. Not so powerful rankings from the bottom up.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of where we're at. But it's
Speaker 1: and there's so many head scratchers in this game. I mean,
Speaker 1: the longest pass of the day, thirteen yard crosser to
Speaker 1: uh Treadwell. I mean, somehow everyone becomes the better, the
Speaker 1: best receiver. Who's not the guys we thought were gonna
Speaker 1: be the top receivers at the ben of the year.
Speaker 1: You know, first it's you know, Dan Arnold, and then
Speaker 1: it's Jamal hag Knew and he getserted. Now it's treadwells
Speaker 1: like the main target. It's just was that what was
Speaker 1: the length of that passed? It was thirteen yards? I
Speaker 1: think it was thirteen or maybe you know they ended
Speaker 1: up with on Treadwell? Was a long I'm talking about
Speaker 1: in the air, in the air passing he's talking about. Okay,
Speaker 1: but but that twenty eight yard play? Did you know
Speaker 1: what that came out of? What a bunch? Yes, I
Speaker 1: saw it. Beat. I know where you're going with that.
Speaker 1: But it's just but nothing's easy. And I think we've
Speaker 1: been too kind to the offensive line. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: the fifth worst team as far as giving up pressure
Speaker 1: in the nflent of times. Trevor Lawrence, Josh Back, he's
Speaker 1: under pressure and he's the worst quarterback in the NFL
Speaker 1: while under pressure. That's not good either. So I'm not
Speaker 1: taking it off, Trevor. I mean, the whole thing is broken.
Speaker 1: And then the running back situation yesterday, we're talking about
Speaker 1: that today, Well, let me let me give me my
Speaker 1: perspective on the running back. Like one. I don't understand
Speaker 1: why Urban continues to come to the presconference, says he
Speaker 1: doesn't know, or saying, you have to ask Bernie Parmarily,
Speaker 1: the running back coach. When we don't get to talk
Speaker 1: to Burn Parmly, I'll tell you what. Let's hear what
Speaker 1: Urban had to say, okay, yesterday, and we'll hear what
Speaker 1: he had to say today about he was asked today.
Speaker 1: Also about Robinson playing in the fourth quarter. Let's start
Speaker 1: with Urban. Yesterday in Los Angeles, twenty plays in a
Speaker 1: row without a touch for Robinson, not on the field,
Speaker 1: just getting a Carlos An opportunity and um and then
Speaker 1: obviously we we failed it there as well, the ball
Speaker 1: went on the ground. Carlos also had the phone by
Speaker 1: game to stack on the field of next drive. So
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering an today there was no if it
Speaker 1: wasn't a benching, it was just all help with Robinson. Um,
Speaker 1: you'd have to ask coach permanently. You know. That's I
Speaker 1: don't get two of all. Like I said, I don't
Speaker 1: micromanag is that you know? And I know he's been
Speaker 1: he's been dinged up, so I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: back with the tent or what's going on. But I
Speaker 1: know there's injury involved. Parley's call or Devil's call, or
Speaker 1: putting him in or not based on injury or or
Speaker 1: even old James is unique because he has fighting injury.
Speaker 1: You know, if if someone's not producing and you set
Speaker 1: him down, that's a whole different conversation. But this is
Speaker 1: really injury based. So that's urban Meyer. Yesterday today Mike
Speaker 1: Doroco asked the question of Urban Meyer, Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: if he's banged up, why is he playing in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter? Down by thirty years? His answer, that's a
Speaker 1: good question. I know that. Uh there's a running back
Speaker 1: rotation to worry about his load how many carries? And
Speaker 1: they tracked that and obviously at that time him in
Speaker 1: the game, they mustn't want to get him a few
Speaker 1: more carrious Bernie did. I'm aware of it. I'm not
Speaker 1: in charge of it, but I watch it. I'll say,
Speaker 1: you know, what's our thoughts here, what's our thoughts there?
Speaker 1: Obviously I didn't do it there. With James moving forward,
Speaker 1: is are you going to be more involved in that
Speaker 1: or especially with James romps in the instr Yeah, yea,
Speaker 1: I am, because I just cut up. Make sure you
Speaker 1: don't want the way I want it done. That's that's
Speaker 1: Urbandmire today And can I camm it now? Who wants
Speaker 1: to go first? Okay, first of all, I go back
Speaker 1: to my original statement of Urban's head coach. Now the
Speaker 1: head coach he is, the football's are everything that happens
Speaker 1: in this building he's in charge of. And we've now
Speaker 1: heard in multiple weeks, I don't know, I don't ask
Speaker 1: Bernie palmerly like, we can't like and he said, head,
Speaker 1: you know it was? De Rock asked, you know is
Speaker 1: it was? He basically asked, is he benched for twenty plays?
Speaker 1: Not didn't get a touch? He wasn't on the field
Speaker 1: for standing on the sideline trying to go in after Yeah,
Speaker 1: he tried to go in. I pulled out and Urban
Speaker 1: said it wasn't I mean what I heard him saying, correct.
Speaker 1: Remember on JP. Basically he's like, well, it's not the fumble,
Speaker 1: it's injury. Okay. If that's the case, then why is
Speaker 1: he playing at the end of the game If he's injured,
Speaker 1: And if he's that injured, why is he even up?
Speaker 1: And then today we heard we want to get Carlo's
Speaker 1: hyde touches Carlos High. James Robinson not healthy is better
Speaker 1: than Carlos Hide. The stats tell you that I'm not
Speaker 1: taking a shot at Carlos Hyde. It's just a fact.
Speaker 1: And yes, he fumbled, He's got to have better ball security.
Speaker 1: But before the fumble last weekends the Falcons, he had
Speaker 1: almost like four under carries without a fumble. This is
Speaker 1: not a guy like who's fumble prone. And and if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I think Carlo's Hide has fumbled as
Speaker 1: much or more then James Robinson, and he fumbled yesterday
Speaker 1: and he went right back in like the inconsistency that
Speaker 1: it just in the message it sends and like the
Speaker 1: bigger issues, they're not very good, but this is indicative
Speaker 1: of the issues. It just doesn't seem like there's clear
Speaker 1: communication and like a grasp of what is going on,
Speaker 1: and there's like no rhyme or reason. So I don't
Speaker 1: get it, Like you can't have it both ways, like
Speaker 1: you either sat him because you punished them for fumbling,
Speaker 1: and there's a different standard between him and Carlo's side
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Even though James Robinson, I argue, is
Speaker 1: still your best offensive player hurt and if he's too hurt,
Speaker 1: then don't put him out there and get him healthy.
Speaker 1: But you can kind of have it. Huh, you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter he said, no, I'm not going in.
Speaker 1: I'm not going in. No, No, I'm hurt. He shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been Pete. They never even should have put him in. Well,
Speaker 1: that's another aside from him playing. He no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: talking at the end in the fourth quarters, they shouldn't
Speaker 1: even have asked. No. It should have been the last series.
Speaker 1: They were deep in their own end with what a
Speaker 1: minute left in the game. What the hell were they
Speaker 1: doing giving him the ball? Why I'm not No, nope,
Speaker 1: I'm not going in my hamstringsacking up or whatever is in?
Speaker 1: What's his injury? Again? Is his foot in? You don't
Speaker 1: want me in in key moments because I fumbled and
Speaker 1: you're gonna put me in at the end. It almost
Speaker 1: looked like a punishment of swords here. Let's let James
Speaker 1: run it out because why is he getting Why is
Speaker 1: he getting Pete? Why is he getting punished in carl
Speaker 1: side fumbles? He doesn't I don't understand that, insist. I
Speaker 1: have no idea. Look, let's be honest about it. They
Speaker 1: didn't like him from the word get go. They drafted
Speaker 1: a guy to replace him. They he started this season
Speaker 1: as the running back because the other kid got hurt. Now,
Speaker 1: whether they was a winner job where I was better,
Speaker 1: he would have won the job. Then he doesn't get
Speaker 1: any carries in the first couple of weeks. Then they realized,
Speaker 1: oh no, and they give him carries and he goes
Speaker 1: nuts for a couple of weeks, and then he gets
Speaker 1: dinged up and then he fumbles and he's in the
Speaker 1: dog house when he fumbles, and they don't like him.
Speaker 1: They don't like him for whatever reason, they don't like him.
Speaker 1: And the reality is is the kid works his butt off.
Speaker 1: He's made himself into a good player. It's unfair to
Speaker 1: him and they should never have put him back in
Speaker 1: the game at the end of the game Sunday. That
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. He should have gone back in. He just said, no,
Speaker 1: my injuries acted up. I'm not going back in. But
Speaker 1: you know what, he's too much of a competitor to
Speaker 1: say no, and that's why he went back in the game. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, the bigger issue Pete and j P
Speaker 1: I have and I don't know if it's the bigger issue,
Speaker 1: I guess the frustrating issue. How about that? What just
Speaker 1: frustrates me is consistent we can week out this. I
Speaker 1: don't know, ask someone else, good question. So you can't
Speaker 1: off to assistance? Is that the policy? I don't think
Speaker 1: the assistance are available to the media, are they? I
Speaker 1: think if I don't know if there's a true policy
Speaker 1: on that, I'm gonna I've never heard any of its
Speaker 1: must be by league rule. I've never heard a assistant
Speaker 1: coach speak outside of JP speaking to him in pregame.
Speaker 1: We have them on pregame radio. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're made available otherwise I must say okay, But he
Speaker 1: keeps saying, asked Bernie, We'll bring Bernie down to what
Speaker 1: in the al Aska? Why did somebody say that, Hey,
Speaker 1: can you go get Bernie? Bring him down here? Ask them?
Speaker 1: I mean that's the that's the obvious. Okay, you won't answer.
Speaker 1: You don't know which you should know? Bring Bernie down here?
Speaker 1: Wells Bernie. Bernie could try and explain it away. It
Speaker 1: just sends the wrong like it sends some of the
Speaker 1: wrong messages. I don't know. Like that's just not and
Speaker 1: like what is urban known as coming in is like
Speaker 1: like leadership, Like that's why, Like he's not an excell
Speaker 1: oh guy, that's not why you hired him. It's building
Speaker 1: the foundations and culture culture like that's what he's the
Speaker 1: overseer of all of it and that and that like
Speaker 1: like when that's what he was brought in to do.
Speaker 1: That's where he was success successful at these great programs
Speaker 1: he led. And it's sad. It's sad what happened has
Speaker 1: happening to this team in the franchise. And I understand it,
Speaker 1: Like it's consistent. We penis consistent weekend week out. That's one,
Speaker 1: then two. I don't understand what they're doing. James Robinson,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Like yesterday, like two weeks ago
Speaker 1: seven for sixteen games, sixteen plays, he was averaging five
Speaker 1: yards a kerry. You're there to win a game, like
Speaker 1: you're best player. You know what I do If he bumbles,
Speaker 1: I put him back in and give him the ball
Speaker 1: the next play. I want to get him going, like
Speaker 1: I wanted to have confidence. That was golden. There's gold
Speaker 1: and then their hills. If you want to go get
Speaker 1: a story, I mean you go, if if that had
Speaker 1: happened when I was on that feat. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's gold. These things are they're allus
Speaker 1: go dunk, come, come on, fellas, and I like the rock.
Speaker 1: The Rock asked the question, but you gotta ask the
Speaker 1: follow up questions, why the hell don't you know? Why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know? You're yeah, I'm gonna get more involved.
Speaker 1: It's only week fourteen. What do you mean you're gonna
Speaker 1: get more involved? It goes back to the deep dive
Speaker 1: that this that that that, it's it's awful. It's a
Speaker 1: terrible look. The franchise is in the middle of another
Speaker 1: garbage season, and the reason about the hope of optimism
Speaker 1: that we had before the season. A lot of people
Speaker 1: thought this team was gonna be good. They stick and
Speaker 1: they don't have any hope right now. Even the quarterback
Speaker 1: who gave the franchise nothing but hope isn't playing well.
Speaker 1: They're ruining the kids. Pete. Does that lack of hope
Speaker 1: carry into the future. Mm hmm, Well there's a remedy
Speaker 1: for it. Let's take your time out. Uh, plenty of
Speaker 1: show ahead. Well, no, I mean it's a cliffhanger. We'll
Speaker 1: come back. We're gonna come back for the thrilling conclusion
Speaker 1: of Pete's thought. Boy, what a show we have already
Speaker 1: started today, and what a show we have ahead second hour.
Speaker 1: We'll get your social media questions a little defensive talk
Speaker 1: when we come back as well. We are often running
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Speaker 1: Jaguars lost at thirty seven seven to the l A
Speaker 1: Rams J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli Man another
Speaker 1: one that was a and listen, people listening, please don't
Speaker 1: feel sorry for me, but that was a miserable trip
Speaker 1: from the standpoint. I mean, l A is not close
Speaker 1: to jacksonvill. I don't know if you know that I
Speaker 1: was a geography miner. I understand that. No longer, let's
Speaker 1: hear the trip. I want to see it here, play
Speaker 1: it out. I want to hear how how it went
Speaker 1: for Big Big Bow on the road. No longer are
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Speaker 1: to the average person. I'm not complaining, but I travel
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean I'm a Thursday night game. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm not home much. And so I get home
Speaker 1: Friday from the Thursday night game in New Orleans, stay
Speaker 1: one night in Bad, get up, fly to l A.
Speaker 1: And I'm not complaining, like if we were good because
Speaker 1: I love football, p you know this, but flying all
Speaker 1: the way to l A. Get there, you have dinner,
Speaker 1: go to Bad, wake up, call that game, Yeah, that game,
Speaker 1: that game, and then take the red eye back home
Speaker 1: last night and land back in Jacksonville at nine am
Speaker 1: this morning. I mean it's just and it's the same. Oh,
Speaker 1: the stadium is unreal. I'll tell you what. I see.
Speaker 1: What you get from five billion and you get a
Speaker 1: nice stadium. It is pete. Have you not been there?
Speaker 1: Oh it's unreal. It is very cool, great place. The
Speaker 1: traffic getting in and out or getting out is a nightmare.
Speaker 1: Um but l A traffic is nightmare anyways. Um but
Speaker 1: I only bring that up, not for anyone to say,
Speaker 1: or you getta called football games. Yes, it's a great
Speaker 1: job Flying Commercial. I do it all the time, not
Speaker 1: a big deal. It was much easier when we could
Speaker 1: find the team charter, COVID protocols, you can. My whole
Speaker 1: point is, I'm getting tired, and I just called the
Speaker 1: games of watching how we play. Imagine if you're a
Speaker 1: player putting the work effort practice and it's the same
Speaker 1: result every week. And I heard Leon talking about the flight.
Speaker 1: What's the flight when you get whacked on the West coast?
Speaker 1: They have a five hour flight at home, Pete. Everyone
Speaker 1: handles it differently. There's guys who I'm not saying they
Speaker 1: did it in Jacksonville, but I'll stay back when I played,
Speaker 1: guys that might have had a few, you know, bottles
Speaker 1: of many bottles and the many bottles and the way
Speaker 1: home when they, you know, are feeling good when they
Speaker 1: get home. There's another group that are playing cards and
Speaker 1: just trying to escape. And there's another group that's sleeping,
Speaker 1: and then there's another group that just sitting there stewing
Speaker 1: and how miserable life is about losing. There's just different groups.
Speaker 1: Everyone handles it differently. I'm not saying there's a right
Speaker 1: way to do it a wrong way, um, but my
Speaker 1: I bring up that story not for That's why preface it.
Speaker 1: Don't feel sorry for me. I have a great life.
Speaker 1: We don't don't worry, we don't know. But my point
Speaker 1: is saying that is what I worry about. If I'm
Speaker 1: feeling like that, Like talking to Frank and the broadcast
Speaker 1: after the game, it's just like it's just like another week,
Speaker 1: Like come on, because you want to live a week
Speaker 1: two you would have been okay, you'd been like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got it's a week thirty and bring that whole
Speaker 1: story up. Is because Pete, you know this. You've been
Speaker 1: around a long time. Jp you've been around long enough
Speaker 1: now too, like that wears on guys and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, now you see guys start looking at the
Speaker 1: end of the year and watching the calendar and like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you know it just it impacts how you
Speaker 1: approach your job. And and I'm not talking anyone's their pros,
Speaker 1: but I don't care how discipline, how much are pro
Speaker 1: you are. It's hard and it's a grind. Remember we
Speaker 1: lost seven straight Pete down that stretch, and we lost
Speaker 1: some close games too, so it was like we got
Speaker 1: blown out by the short right. That was the most
Speaker 1: embarrassing one of the most more embarrassing days of my life. Um,
Speaker 1: but we were losing close games and I would dread
Speaker 1: coming to the facility, just dread it because you knew
Speaker 1: that it was just gonna be a grind, and you
Speaker 1: knew the head coach is gonna be grinding you just
Speaker 1: the death and it and the NFL is a long
Speaker 1: season no matter what, because it's a physical and mental
Speaker 1: grind to get through the season. When you're winning, it
Speaker 1: goes pretty quick, but it's still hard. When you're losing.
Speaker 1: It's like dog years. It's like everyone feels like seven
Speaker 1: and you're just like, uh, like, when do we play?
Speaker 1: The cold was compounded by the fact you had to
Speaker 1: go face yea, oh god, I can't even And in
Speaker 1: this year of all years, I mean this Sunday's December twelve.
Speaker 1: There's four more games left after this week seven. What
Speaker 1: a bad year to have seventeen games and nine is
Speaker 1: the last game? Like what are we doing? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Just look like I said, you guys asked me, how
Speaker 1: do you remedy it? And here's the answer to that question.
Speaker 1: You're not but you're not gonna fire Urban and everyone
Speaker 1: in the building. You just hired them. You can't. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, you don't really think Sean's gonna fire urban.
Speaker 1: There might be a you could maybe you can work
Speaker 1: something out with him. Well that's firing him. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you would play him all the money, so you would
Speaker 1: you would recommend at this point starting over, I would
Speaker 1: consider I would consider it. And if if he's not going,
Speaker 1: then he's got to get rid of about five or
Speaker 1: six sevent eight coaches good bye, So that would leave
Speaker 1: only leave him with twenty. But how can the biggest
Speaker 1: step in the league not get anybody any better? He has?
Speaker 1: Anybody got better? Not the answers, No, Pete, I mean
Speaker 1: there's somebody had to get you know better, had hurt Tyson,
Speaker 1: Campbell got better. I think Ben Bart has gotten better.
Speaker 1: Until yesterday he was dinged up up. Yesterday he played better.
Speaker 1: Nor Well was mad. He was bad, both bad. They
Speaker 1: were both bad, and quite frankly, nobody was any good.
Speaker 1: It was thirty. Here's the thing I was thinking about
Speaker 1: that today, Pete, watching the tape, I'm like, okay, who
Speaker 1: played well on offense? Nobody maybe tread well A couple
Speaker 1: of nice catches, yeah, okay, but nobody, And then let's
Speaker 1: go to the defense. Who played well on defense leading
Speaker 1: tackler's role in the secondary. That's bad. Campbell was playing
Speaker 1: okay before he got hurt. Okay, who else he's got better?
Speaker 1: He's one guy that's gotten better. Yeah, you know who
Speaker 1: was the Jaguars Radio Network player of the game after
Speaker 1: the game and the post game logan Cook. That's not good,
Speaker 1: not good, nothing like it in Cooper cup on Wingered
Speaker 1: that's not that's doesn't go well. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: As we look at the tackles, and there's one name
Speaker 1: that is missing there that was absent yesterday. And he's
Speaker 1: absent on the statue that we're looking at right now. Griffin. No,
Speaker 1: he was on the field, but he was absent. Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Yeah. Worth, I haven't. I didn't watch the
Speaker 1: defensive tape at the Witworth Dominator. Here's the thing, Pete,
Speaker 1: have you watched Witworth this year yet? Yeah? He had played,
Speaker 1: he had played up their expectations for sure. He is
Speaker 1: forty years old. He looks forty and I like Andrew
Speaker 1: Worth and he's had a great career. He's forty this
Speaker 1: coming Sunday, Okay, he'll be forty. Um, he can't bend
Speaker 1: his knees, he can't move, and I've watched teams like
Speaker 1: the Packers just physically just got after him. And I
Speaker 1: thought going into this game was like, Okay, Josh has
Speaker 1: been playing well, Like get a good rush plan, speed him,
Speaker 1: go speed to ball, like you're gonna give him fits.
Speaker 1: And it was the worst rush plan I've seen and
Speaker 1: he did nothing, and Wit was blocking him fairly easily.
Speaker 1: And w hasn't blocked many people fairly easy this year.
Speaker 1: This is not Andrew Whitworth five years ago when he's
Speaker 1: in his prime. Josh Allen finished with two assists. That's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's your game last year last week it wasn't great either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Pete, he's one of your best players. You have
Speaker 1: to dominate a forty year old left tackle. I agree, Hey,
Speaker 1: he I think it was he had the little run
Speaker 1: where he got hot and then what was last week's
Speaker 1: numbers for him? He wasn't that great either, five? Um, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it tailed off a little bit. Last week. He had
Speaker 1: three tackles that was at uh, two solos, one assist.
Speaker 1: The week before that he had ten tackles and a
Speaker 1: tackle for loss and a four stumble for the last
Speaker 1: two weeks he was building to maybe even being, you know,
Speaker 1: a potential Pro Bowl player. Gone off the rails. And
Speaker 1: you know, here's the other thing, Tony. You watched it
Speaker 1: the guys they signed in free agency and then then,
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, free agency never cures all your ills.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't. If we went through all those guys
Speaker 1: that they signed in free agency and put a grade
Speaker 1: next to where they're at, what would that grade be
Speaker 1: for each player? And what would the great overall grade
Speaker 1: be on free agency? You're the guy who likes the
Speaker 1: great people think about it because remember, leading into the
Speaker 1: off season, got all the draft picks, got all the
Speaker 1: money they can go get guys fix things? What are
Speaker 1: they fixed? So we were talking about this in the
Speaker 1: booth yesterday, and JP and I talked about in the
Speaker 1: Brake beat. Is this team worse than last year's team? Well,
Speaker 1: that's a good question. They're better. Don't you think they're
Speaker 1: better on the defensive line? Okay, I'm saying overall, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna when we come back, I'm just gonna you're
Speaker 1: missing my point. When we come back, I'm gonna read.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read some numbers for repete and you tell
Speaker 1: me what you think about has this I'll say differently,
Speaker 1: forget about better or worse? Has this team progressed? Are
Speaker 1: they better than they were last year? And then we
Speaker 1: will also grade the free agents at this point, at
Speaker 1: this through this point, we've got a lot to get too.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't we return if I love it? The first hour
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Speaker 1: second hour, we'll get your social media questions. We'll keep
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Speaker 1: a bank turned Potential into Progress, and by Public where
Speaker 1: shopping gets the pleasure. Yeah. I mean that was a
Speaker 1: really good team. Um didn't We didn't play well, We
Speaker 1: didn't help ourselves out. But I mean, end of the day,
Speaker 1: you do have to look at that team and it's
Speaker 1: a good team you're playing against. But you know, the
Speaker 1: way we came out at the beginning of the game,
Speaker 1: it was ten seven, felt good even going in the
Speaker 1: half time I think it was sixteen seven. Um, it
Speaker 1: felt felt good about where were where we were at
Speaker 1: and then second half we just were very unproductive. Stagny
Speaker 1: didn't move the ball and then just didn't play complimentary.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, it's tough day. Obviously, when you get
Speaker 1: beat thirty seven to seven, it's not a good day.
Speaker 1: And it was want to move past this one and
Speaker 1: go get to go get the next one. It's Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence of course, Jaguars quarterback after the game at SOFI
Speaker 1: Stadium in Inglewood, California, yesterday and Week thirteen, thirty seven
Speaker 1: seven the final Rams over the Jaguars and welcome back.
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour j P. Shadrick with Tony Boselli
Speaker 1: and studio this week and to see it in person.
Speaker 1: And Pete Prisco down in South Florida. At some point
Speaker 1: we'll get Pete back in studio with us, but you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's a South Florida guy, so it's hard to
Speaker 1: kind of get him in the same place. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, since the bye week Week seven by the
Speaker 1: Jaguars are now averaging since the bye just under eleven
Speaker 1: points per game only the season. Not good, coach, it's
Speaker 1: not good. Well, the good news is we're gonna we
Speaker 1: play the Texans in uh two weeks were just a
Speaker 1: little lesson two weeks and they're only averaging thirt point
Speaker 1: seven in the game, so there's hope. Wow, and you
Speaker 1: get the Jacks coming up too, so that's well, let
Speaker 1: me see what I locked that one already? The Jets
Speaker 1: are averaging eight teen point one, so we got a
Speaker 1: little bit. We gotta make up a little bit there.
Speaker 1: He wishes he could take that one back. They're gonna
Speaker 1: sweep sweep the a f C. East. That looks terrible.
Speaker 1: That's a bad one, all right. How did they by
Speaker 1: the way, how did they say the same thing? So
Speaker 1: people we left the last break is the question was asked,
Speaker 1: is this has this team progressed? Is it better than
Speaker 1: they were last year? And this is after remember last
Speaker 1: year they didn't spend any money on the cap. They
Speaker 1: cleaned the cap up for this year they got the
Speaker 1: first overall picked new head coach and spend a bunch
Speaker 1: of money in free agency. Is this team better than
Speaker 1: they were last year? Okay, I will argue no, offensively,
Speaker 1: they were better last year. Let me go through these numbers.
Speaker 1: Opening day when how many times does this team scored
Speaker 1: twenty seven points this year. No not. We two lost
Speaker 1: thirty three thirty versus the Titans. We have not scored thirty.
Speaker 1: We haven't scored thirty since that game. I think we
Speaker 1: have not. Um. Then we got blown out by the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Bengals thirty three. Five scored twenty five points, blown out
Speaker 1: by the Texans, blown out by the Lions, Chargers thirty
Speaker 1: nine Texans again five like your Packers twenty in Lambeau
Speaker 1: with the ball in your hands at the end of
Speaker 1: the game to win it. Steelers blow you out. Browns
Speaker 1: playoff team five Vikings. I believe they're playoff team to
Speaker 1: four an' though they weren't last year. And you know,
Speaker 1: and then they got pretty much blown out the last
Speaker 1: four weeks pretty bad. Um, they're in games, scoring point
Speaker 1: is their score points in games. And this is with
Speaker 1: three different quarterbacks, one of them being Jake lu Mike
Speaker 1: Glennon and gardnermentship with the three guys, and I think,
Speaker 1: and I'm only bringing this up, Pete because it goes
Speaker 1: to what you said earlier, and I asked the question,
Speaker 1: is their hope for the future, because there was a
Speaker 1: lot of hope coming in this year because how excited
Speaker 1: was everyone when we got the first overall pick at
Speaker 1: the end of the last season. Then they were pumped
Speaker 1: about Urban Meyer, yes and all what he was gonna
Speaker 1: bring and the one for two bad And if you
Speaker 1: look at what they've done this year, they've erode in
Speaker 1: some of that. I mean listening to talk radio, which
Speaker 1: I know is always dangerous, but just around town talking
Speaker 1: to people, the questions I get, you know, has Hope
Speaker 1: left the building? And how do you get it back in?
Speaker 1: Because if you're sitting back ten out of eleven years
Speaker 1: with is it ten out of the eleven years and
Speaker 1: templus losses? And you look with like the thought like
Speaker 1: some people thought we were gonna be can playoff team
Speaker 1: this year because they were so excited about Urban and Trevor.
Speaker 1: I never did. I thought it was early. I never did.
Speaker 1: I said early six eight games. I remember a double
Speaker 1: digit win conversation that was That was tongue in cheek.
Speaker 1: You know it as well, before before the season, before
Speaker 1: preseason started, before camps started, I said, I think they
Speaker 1: get six eight wins after camp in preseason, we're on
Speaker 1: the show and we both said four to six. I
Speaker 1: was lower than you I said three to five. I think, okay,
Speaker 1: three four or six. And I remember telling people like,
Speaker 1: what you need to measure this year by is does
Speaker 1: the young team get better? Does the young quarterback get better?
Speaker 1: Like that was most important in my concern is this
Speaker 1: team is getting worse. It's not getting better. The quarterbacks
Speaker 1: getting and the quarterbacks getting worse. Right, And that's what
Speaker 1: worries you because you look back, where's the progress? And
Speaker 1: I think that goes back telling me, if you're the
Speaker 1: owner of the team, don't you look at all that
Speaker 1: and say, hey, wait a second, do I keep this
Speaker 1: thing going? Do I keep it going? What I mean,
Speaker 1: how do you keep how do you keep it? If
Speaker 1: you know you've got a coach it doesn't even know
Speaker 1: what is what if that's not in the game, and
Speaker 1: you keep it going. I mean it just makes no say, look,
Speaker 1: when you guys stunk for parts of you were building
Speaker 1: to something. If the next year things didn't turn around.
Speaker 1: Tom would have been on the hot seat in year three,
Speaker 1: no question he would have been. But he turned it around.
Speaker 1: He might not have made it a year three. I
Speaker 1: had have made it a year three. But where there's
Speaker 1: no there's no okay. The team stakes. But more than that,
Speaker 1: there's no hope because the coach doesn't seem to have
Speaker 1: hope or direction. That's the can, sir, And that's why. Look,
Speaker 1: last year you had the first overall pick, you had
Speaker 1: all the draft picks, you had all the money. They
Speaker 1: got worse. That has to fall onto somebody. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I mean, that's my point. I mean, last year it
Speaker 1: was on purpose not to spend money, clean the cap out,
Speaker 1: get ready, like like, build the foundation. They did it.
Speaker 1: You know, you could argue it worked. This year they
Speaker 1: spent money, got first overall pick, and where's the progress?
Speaker 1: And that wasn't about money? Would you fire him? Okay,
Speaker 1: let me ask you that if there wasn't a big
Speaker 1: money hit to get rid of them, would they get
Speaker 1: rid of them? I don't think so. For what reason though,
Speaker 1: um yourself by by signing, by hiring him in the
Speaker 1: first place? I think, I mean, I think stability is that?
Speaker 1: Is that a stable team? Right now? I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you that, Pete. I'm not listen. I'm not arguing whether
Speaker 1: it's there was the right choice, wrong choice, or the
Speaker 1: right choice to fire or not fire. That's not my point.
Speaker 1: You asked me from an owner's perspective. I think as
Speaker 1: an owner, you have to look at the overall franchise
Speaker 1: and in this what message are you sending to the
Speaker 1: organization also to future coaches that you hire. And so
Speaker 1: I think it's like at some level, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure Sean would like some stability in the organization and
Speaker 1: that I'm sure he's frustrated. But I also think he's
Speaker 1: probably like, Okay, this dude want a bunch of college one,
Speaker 1: a bunch of nations. He's gonna figure it out. I
Speaker 1: think that's what he's probably thinking. In my opinion, I
Speaker 1: don't know this, and based on that, I don't think
Speaker 1: you fire them after twelve games. Look, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people out there that blame Dave Caldwell for the roster,
Speaker 1: and I get it. There's there's some bad picks made,
Speaker 1: there's no question. But if you evaluate we I talked
Speaker 1: about the free agents and the draft picks in this question,
Speaker 1: if you evaluate this first group, they're not very good.
Speaker 1: Let me think about it. They're marquee offensive signing was
Speaker 1: who Trevor Lawrence? No, what the draft pick? I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: Free agent signing, Marvin Dravin Jones that's a terrible signing.
Speaker 1: He's been a great, a bust with a capital B,
Speaker 1: and that's because she signed an old, aging receiver. They
Speaker 1: got Man Hurts too. What's he done? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: they said he was gonna be the best, best blocking
Speaker 1: tight end and he's not even the best. He's not
Speaker 1: even a better blocking tight end. And the other guy
Speaker 1: on his own team right now. So that's a bust
Speaker 1: move as well. So Jack Griffin, good signing or bad
Speaker 1: signing a great Roy Robertson Harris good signing, your bad
Speaker 1: sign he's put better lately. Good signing your band signing.
Speaker 1: That's not I'm gonna say incomplete this point. I'll give
Speaker 1: it a C plus just about average. Ray Shawn Jagubs,
Speaker 1: I ain't good. He's not here. What happened in philm
Speaker 1: I forgot about him? He was here, he was here.
Speaker 1: Carlos Carlos Hide, come on, you know all right, we
Speaker 1: need to take your time out. Was that a good signing? Pete?
Speaker 1: I get your point. Your point is made. Rudy Ford
Speaker 1: good signing. He's been that's been at Jamal Agnew ended
Speaker 1: up being a good signing. Rudy Ford might be one
Speaker 1: of your best free agent signings if you put in
Speaker 1: what you paid for him and all everything right, let's
Speaker 1: take your time out. We'll come back plenty of this
Speaker 1: ahead in the final moments of the opening hour. Then
Speaker 1: we'll get to the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: Go through the top and two of the day. What
Speaker 1: are you laughing at? Top? Top new? Oh the Jags
Speaker 1: lost yesterday. I don't think so, unless you want to
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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony Basselli is making his way back into
Speaker 1: the studio. Let's take a look at the a FC
Speaker 1: South standings. Of course, entering week thirteen, you probably know
Speaker 1: them by now. Of course, they haven't changed too much.
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans lead the way in the division with
Speaker 1: a record of eight and four. Now. They were off
Speaker 1: this week Indie at seven and six, trying to close
Speaker 1: the gap they got when Houston they shut out Houston.
Speaker 1: Texans are not to intend. The Texans are officially eliminated
Speaker 1: from the postseason after yesterday. The Jaguars could be eliminated tonight.
Speaker 1: If the Bills win or tie, they would be officially.
Speaker 1: We can't talk about draft until I know, so we're
Speaker 1: we got you know, got us wait until that officially
Speaker 1: have to go. Patriots, come on, Patriot back jokes. We're
Speaker 1: still in it. The Patriots win, were still in mathematically
Speaker 1: they can make they can make a run. They can
Speaker 1: make a run. They could. They can win games six
Speaker 1: three the rest of the way and make a run.
Speaker 1: Only takes one point. Pete only takes one point more
Speaker 1: than the other team. What about power rankings? How are
Speaker 1: you doing the power ranking? Ah? Brutal, that's how the
Speaker 1: standings are. Rankings are Indy is Indy. They have a
Speaker 1: chance to do this, well, there are three games back
Speaker 1: with five to go. Well the good luck, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, even all those guys out in Tennessee. So
Speaker 1: let's okay, let's just play this out. Let's say they
Speaker 1: run the table. Let's look at their schedules. Tennessee has
Speaker 1: it has won this week to get the nine? Okay,
Speaker 1: and don't they play Houston again too? I got you.
Speaker 1: So here's Tennessee coming up by week this week, Jaguars
Speaker 1: in Week fourteen at the Steelers, home against the Niners,
Speaker 1: home against the Dolphins at the Texans. Yeah, so let's
Speaker 1: just say and I let's say they beat us in
Speaker 1: the Texans, but ten wins. And so if they get
Speaker 1: ten wins, that means the Colts have to run the
Speaker 1: table and get to a lot. I mean, so they
Speaker 1: have the Colts. The only chance the Colts have realistically
Speaker 1: is running the table. And here's the Colts schedule the
Speaker 1: rest of the way. Bye week this week coming up
Speaker 1: home against the Patriots at the Cardinals, home against the
Speaker 1: Raiders at the Jaguars. They're not running the table tough schedule,
Speaker 1: so no, they have no Tony's proclamation about four weeks
Speaker 1: ago that the Colts are going to run down the No.
Speaker 1: I said they had a chance. They didn't lock it.
Speaker 1: There's no locks. No, you didn't. You didn't lock it.
Speaker 1: But you said they would catch him. I said they
Speaker 1: had a chance. JP. Everybody's got a chance. I guess right.
Speaker 1: I mean I think he locked it JP. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he locked it, but he said they would
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, he said they'd lock him down. He did. Well,
Speaker 1: you're the culture gonna make the playoffs. So they're gonna
Speaker 1: be tenant seven. They'll be in the playoffs. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they will too. Well. Read that schedule again though,
Speaker 1: they got new Colts are by this week home against
Speaker 1: the Patriots at the Cardinals home against the Raiders at
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Yeah, they go two and two, at least
Speaker 1: nine and nine? Nine, and does nine get him in?
Speaker 1: Probably tight? Hm. So you have that, you have the
Speaker 1: Steelers out there. That tie kind of messes everything up. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, and uh, and then he got a
Speaker 1: lot of teams like the Bengals. The Chargers are all
Speaker 1: right in the mix there too. What about Miami. Miami
Speaker 1: won five in a row there, five and seven, and
Speaker 1: their schedule is pretty easy. The rest of their waife
Speaker 1: on that. They got one with the Patriots, but they're
Speaker 1: five and seven, they're six and seven, six and seven,
Speaker 1: six and seven, I mean, won five in a row,
Speaker 1: six and seven. Right now, it's the wild cards. Would
Speaker 1: be Buffalo seven and four, Chargers seven and five, Cincinnati
Speaker 1: seven and five. Then he got Pittsburgh six five and one,
Speaker 1: Indie seven and six, Vegas, Cleveland and Denver all six
Speaker 1: and six, and then Miami six and seven. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of teams all bunched up together there. Miami's like
Speaker 1: somebody I read where Miami's the first team since the
Speaker 1: forties or something to lose seventh straight and then win
Speaker 1: five straight. No, they lost six day, lost six straight
Speaker 1: and then straight. Wow, well we are closing down the
Speaker 1: opening hour of Jaguar. You're right, Peters seven straight, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: well straight, Yeah, they were one in they open, they
Speaker 1: won their opener, and they were one in seven and
Speaker 1: then won five straight. One hour down, one hour ago
Speaker 1: you're gonna be all wake through this, Tony. I got
Speaker 1: an hour and a half sleep last night on that plane.
Speaker 1: It was not good sleep, better than zero first class.
Speaker 1: You were at first class, right, yeah, but it was
Speaker 1: not like a lay down first class. I got an
Speaker 1: hour and a half and I woke up from that
Speaker 1: hour and a half like my shoulder hurts so bad.
Speaker 1: You're not feeling sorry for me, right, Nope, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour. My wife does it
Speaker 1: just development on the Jaguars Digital Network. I wish I
Speaker 1: had all the answers and I'd give them to you.
Speaker 1: I don't know the answers other than I know this
Speaker 1: that you're gonna keep swinging and keep working together. Is
Speaker 1: there a confidence issue? Anytime you're you're not successful with something,
Speaker 1: that's something I've gotta fight through. Confidence is a result
Speaker 1: of success, and right now we're struggling with time. That's
Speaker 1: head coach Urban Meyer, of course. After the game in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles yesterday and welcome back, it's the second hour
Speaker 1: of Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco,
Speaker 1: the Rams over the Jaguars thirty seven seven Jacks found
Speaker 1: themselves in an early hole again. The opening kickoff returned
Speaker 1: sixty five yards set up an early field goal for
Speaker 1: the Rams. Then on the second offensive play for the Jags,
Speaker 1: James Robinson fumbled. Three plays later, it's ten nothing. Rams.
Speaker 1: Jacks fought back though the third team play touchdown drive
Speaker 1: and got within three points. The offense was shut down
Speaker 1: after that point. Was it a benching or was it
Speaker 1: health questions surrounding James Robinson being held out of the
Speaker 1: game for three straight drives After that early fumble. The
Speaker 1: defense held the Rams to a couple more first half
Speaker 1: field goals and then ran out of gas in the
Speaker 1: second half, and the Rams threw it all over the
Speaker 1: yard and scored touchdowns on their first three possessions after halftime.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars are now two and ten and it's onto
Speaker 1: Tennessee in Week four. Team a place the Jaguars haven't
Speaker 1: won since the first year of Obama's second term, has
Speaker 1: been that literally November was the last two Wars win
Speaker 1: in Nashville. That is absolutely amazing to me. There was
Speaker 1: a Will Blackman game, the Quad infecta game, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that put him up by nine, and then
Speaker 1: Tennessee scored late and they ended up winning in that game.
Speaker 1: The Thursday night game. It was not a Thursday night
Speaker 1: sounded like a Thursday night game. It wasn't like your
Speaker 1: team's exactly, we're good going up there either. Well let's
Speaker 1: think through that. So um there were the Houston Oilers.
Speaker 1: So um we won there at Houston. Yeah, nine, six
Speaker 1: we beat them in Houston. In at Vanderbilt Houston again,
Speaker 1: we played the last game in the Astrodome. Seven we
Speaker 1: beat them in Memphis. We beat them at Vanderbilt. Nine
Speaker 1: they beat us. I could do through the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I was thinking when I played two thousand they beat us.
Speaker 1: There are two thousand one they beat us there. So
Speaker 1: you didn't your years, your first two years playing in
Speaker 1: in Nashville, you didn't beat him. And there was in
Speaker 1: the stadium never I was never when I played, we
Speaker 1: never beat him in the state. This day in there,
Speaker 1: now we beat him in Nashville and Vanderbilt. I remember
Speaker 1: the no you beat him in Memphis, in Vanderbilt, Memphis
Speaker 1: and Vanderbilt both times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he started
Speaker 1: losing to him in ninety nine obviously, and then two
Speaker 1: thousand oh one, oh two oh three, these are all
Speaker 1: their games in Nashville, and then there was winds and
Speaker 1: oh four oh five up there lost in OH six winning,
Speaker 1: OH seven loss, oh eight oh nine win and ten
Speaker 1: loss loss wins and record in their new stadium in Nashville.
Speaker 1: Would they start ninety nine? Was that the first year?
Speaker 1: The first year that stadium. Let's see five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, six,
Speaker 1: seventeen wins for tennessee uh one, two, three, four, five
Speaker 1: wins for the Jaguars. Do we do we count? Do
Speaker 1: you count the ninety championship game that they claim that
Speaker 1: as their own stadium. There's that evil grinch laugh again.
Speaker 1: It's not very nice, not nice at all. So here
Speaker 1: we are. I mean, it's to a ten, the tenth
Speaker 1: double digit losing season in the last eleven years, the
Speaker 1: one that didn't happened the Jags went to the SC
Speaker 1: championship game. I don't even know what to say, did not.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's what it is. It's not good, it's
Speaker 1: not good, and and there's no help coming this year.
Speaker 1: He said that for the last month. That's why I
Speaker 1: was just saying that that's the hard part. Because it's
Speaker 1: the seventeen game season. You have five more games to go,
Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, here's our choices. Lose every game
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, or the guys we
Speaker 1: have out there, players and coaches do a better job.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no other option. I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: lose them all. If they lose them all, they could
Speaker 1: have the number one overall pick, and you know what
Speaker 1: that would me. They'd be the fifth team in history
Speaker 1: to have pick number one overall back to back. Who
Speaker 1: was the last thing to depeat? Can you name it?
Speaker 1: Can Brown? The Browns? Who was the team that did
Speaker 1: it before that? Baker? It was Baker Mayfield and Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1: Uh before that? One time before that did the Lions
Speaker 1: do I'll tell you, Oh it was the Browns said
Speaker 1: it twice, That's right, they did, Kim Tim Colson, Courton
Speaker 1: Brown and then the year then before that, the Bengals
Speaker 1: did it. People forget the Bengals did it? Remember who
Speaker 1: they did? Big Daddy Wilkinson and Kajohnah Carter. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: didn't have the first overall pick. Was they didn't earn
Speaker 1: the first overall pick with John Carter. They have the
Speaker 1: fifth pick and traded with the Panthers different but they
Speaker 1: drafted one the first you're talking about the one who
Speaker 1: earned it. Yeah, but they picked back to back and
Speaker 1: then and then before that, the Bucks did it twice,
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals did it the Chicago Cardinal. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think about that. The history of the weak. That's it. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean think about this. I mean, if
Speaker 1: the Lions are gonna lose, I mean the Lions will
Speaker 1: win another game, correct, so, well the Texans it'll be.
Speaker 1: So that's the number one pickfole in a couple of weeks. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: the act didn't come down to it. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: unless we meet the beat the Jets, beat the Titans
Speaker 1: or the Jets. But if the if the jag Wards
Speaker 1: beat the beat the Texans and then beat the Jets,
Speaker 1: the Jets then beat the Jets. Well that's four weeks.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be okay if they lose to If
Speaker 1: they beat the Texans and lose to I mean loose
Speaker 1: to the Texans, to beat the Jets and the Texans, yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be close. Do you want the number one overall
Speaker 1: pick again? No, I want to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the number one pick. But
Speaker 1: you're not. You're out of the playoffs. It's done. We're
Speaker 1: not mathematics. We we're not we're not allowed to talk
Speaker 1: about the kick off after eight o'clock tonight, Okay, by
Speaker 1: night to night you might be out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Do you want the number one overall pick? Again? Are you? We?
Speaker 1: Would you rather have the number one overall pick A
Speaker 1: deal with the dealing doing it two years in a
Speaker 1: row or not? I'd want the number one overall pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be bad, you might as get the
Speaker 1: best pick you can. But who you? Who are you taking?
Speaker 1: You almost spit? There'm not asking you've you've made it,
Speaker 1: walk right into it as rush from Oregon? Do you
Speaker 1: take the pass rusher from Michigan? Or you take trade
Speaker 1: back and maybe take one of the wide receivers? What
Speaker 1: do you do? How many picks do I get? If
Speaker 1: I trade back to let's say six or seven, you
Speaker 1: get an extra two and maybe something else like a
Speaker 1: three or a couple of three something I know you would.
Speaker 1: I did say see this that which is interesting, Like
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Giants have back to back picks
Speaker 1: at the moment, and the top ten both of them
Speaker 1: have three picks and Eagles will have three for a
Speaker 1: trout picks, right, I might take that Hutchinson kid number one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Tony and I know we don't want to talk
Speaker 1: draft all the way. But here's why I like him
Speaker 1: a lot. He's really good. But he's so technically sound
Speaker 1: that you wonder when he gets to the NFL, is
Speaker 1: he going to be that you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like the big kid in high school that dominated,
Speaker 1: but when he got to college and he met everybody
Speaker 1: that was the same as him, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like there's always guys with the higher athletic ability upside.
Speaker 1: But I've heard he's a great athlete, Pete. I heard
Speaker 1: he has like a thirty six inch vertical four six athlete.
Speaker 1: He reminds me a J. J. Watt. He does to sixty. Remember,
Speaker 1: but remember Bosa coming out of a house state had
Speaker 1: great technique and that was the books, Like, is he
Speaker 1: just a technician because he had such great hand use?
Speaker 1: Translated pretty good? Yeah, I look as much as Jamis
Speaker 1: and Williams would look great. If you can get a
Speaker 1: pass rusher that can dominate, you gotta take the pass rush, oh,
Speaker 1: without a doubt, quarterback, But then you gotta work back
Speaker 1: in and get a receiver. But you know this as
Speaker 1: well as I do. You get a quarterback, you protect
Speaker 1: the quarterback, you affect the quarterback. I agree, I agree, well,
Speaker 1: and that makes a question about this offensive line. Is
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson and slam Dunk to come back? Now? Well,
Speaker 1: you can't fix everything. I mean, here's here's the problem.
Speaker 1: It's gonna come up. The left tackle is gonna come
Speaker 1: up no matter what because one year, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you gotta sign I probably franchise him again, That's
Speaker 1: what I would do. You've switched, You've you've switched on
Speaker 1: that one a little bit. You were three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: you're giving him a deal get and now he's tacking.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, well, I mean he's been. I mean
Speaker 1: he's okay, he's good, not great. Set again. Here's here's
Speaker 1: here's the problem you have is how many positions the
Speaker 1: need did you address in this past draft? Like where
Speaker 1: you got guys that you say, okay, they're starters. We're
Speaker 1: gonna build around those guys. Quarterback okay, quarterback who else? Campbell,
Speaker 1: camb okay, who else? That's it. You gotta get more
Speaker 1: than just two guys you can build around. In the draft.
Speaker 1: That's part of the problem, especially when you've missed on
Speaker 1: the draft so many years in a row. Let me,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a serious, serious question. Can't
Speaker 1: wait for this. Could you see a scenario where none
Speaker 1: of them are starting next year on that offensive line?
Speaker 1: None of the current five? Correct? No, because Bambarts is
Speaker 1: gonna start after Yeah, he played terrible yesterday, but he'll
Speaker 1: be a start next year. And he had problems with
Speaker 1: Grandy Jarred last week. Okay, I'll give you a bed Bars,
Speaker 1: but you can see a scenario where four of the
Speaker 1: five might not be starting next year. I ain't John
Speaker 1: Taylor because he's the right price tag and you can't
Speaker 1: fix everything. I think he's starting next year too. Wow, man,
Speaker 1: But there's a there is definitely a chance that four
Speaker 1: of the five could not be starting next year. But
Speaker 1: if you do the means which means this, which means this, Tony,
Speaker 1: that the five who started the season won't be starting
Speaker 1: because Norwell has gotten worse. He had he had a
Speaker 1: bad game Pete yesterday. Don't overreact against a guy who
Speaker 1: struggles against Aaron donnd has just been okay, all yere, Okay,
Speaker 1: He's okay. Fish on the deck. Unbelievable pizza. The fish
Speaker 1: gas me for air right now, popping around on the deck. No,
Speaker 1: he's a free agent. Pay him. Well, I don't know
Speaker 1: what I have to pay him. It's can't be that much.
Speaker 1: Why can't it be that much? Because who'sna he's an
Speaker 1: older player. Who's gonna pay him a bunch of money? Okay?
Speaker 1: What do you do with Linda now that he's got
Speaker 1: a bam back to go? There? Another injury? I love
Speaker 1: Linda and I love on our team, but he's been
Speaker 1: hurt too much. He's not I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can invest. You can't invest in him, and then Cam
Speaker 1: if you tag him, I think you have to tag him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to tag. And we're getting a favorable long
Speaker 1: term deal, so quite possibly bare minimum, probably three or
Speaker 1: three or five are gonna be dow. What do you do?
Speaker 1: What do you do with Walker Little? I don't know
Speaker 1: were you drafted in the second round? I didn't draft him,
Speaker 1: you didn't. But if you draft in the second round,
Speaker 1: that's needs you. You think he's gonna be starting in
Speaker 1: year two? Does it not? Yes? Should they put him
Speaker 1: out there the rest of this season? Put him where? Where? Somewhere,
Speaker 1: get him on the field somehow, whatever you want to play.
Speaker 1: He's not as good as can run routes, He's not.
Speaker 1: He's not as good as can. He's athletic, I'll say that.
Speaker 1: And I've heard, and I've only heard this like anadotically,
Speaker 1: that he's not. That he struggled in practice a little
Speaker 1: bit right now, That's all I've heard. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's true or not. And they see it more
Speaker 1: than we do. We're not out there, so there's gotta
Speaker 1: be a reason he's not out my guess. If he
Speaker 1: can make them better, he'll be playing. Cam Robinson played guard,
Speaker 1: Then who are you gonna played the left tackle? Will
Speaker 1: Richardson has Sometimes he's a better tackle than Walker Little.
Speaker 1: Right now, Pete, why would you move the better left
Speaker 1: tackle the guard? What about? What about maybe next year?
Speaker 1: What about Walking Little playing guard? You said you think
Speaker 1: he's got the frame, in the in the technique and
Speaker 1: everything to do it as much as Cam. The dudes.
Speaker 1: Have you seen how big Walker Little is? Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a big dude. Basically, they needed they need a new center.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Kansas City didn't flip their entire
Speaker 1: offensive line and The question is this, and I'm asking
Speaker 1: this because I'm saying this with all sincerity. Are they
Speaker 1: that much better? They're a line though? No, Well that
Speaker 1: center is really good. Yeah, center is good. The right
Speaker 1: guards lawler, the left guards solid. He's good veteran. The
Speaker 1: tackles have been bad, bad, So there's some work to
Speaker 1: be done. It sounds like we've got Pete going from
Speaker 1: the whole new offensive line down to like two new guys.
Speaker 1: He's offense. I'm starting from scratch. We're gonna call Pete.
Speaker 1: We're gonna call Pete fish Prisco flopping around like a
Speaker 1: fish on the deck. No, I didn't flop a bit.
Speaker 1: He's a free agent. Throw him back, Yeah you do.
Speaker 1: Let's come back. We're gonna keep it real, Keep it
Speaker 1: real with Bob Roberts. Your time's coming, Robert. When Dobb
Speaker 1: you sending this some vino, I need a little red wine.
Speaker 1: He needs that quickly too, because he's got to give
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Speaker 1: much to say. I mean, after the similar message like
Speaker 1: San Francisco couple weeks ago. We just we got a
Speaker 1: lot more than that, and I just didn't didn't play well.
Speaker 1: And I kind of saying the same thing. But we
Speaker 1: got a lot more to offer than that, and we
Speaker 1: gotta do better. We gotta figure it out. Obviously, if
Speaker 1: we knew the answer, we'd be doing it. But I
Speaker 1: keep plugging away, go about to work this week. I
Speaker 1: gotta get better. I mean, because I was especially offensively
Speaker 1: how it defensive a really good job early and then
Speaker 1: we had it. We had a good drive, moved the
Speaker 1: ball down. There was fourteen plays to tol play something
Speaker 1: like that, but then after that just couldn't get anything going.
Speaker 1: We gotta play better, we gotta move the ball, gotta
Speaker 1: make plays, and UM trying to trying to figure that out.
Speaker 1: There's the quarterback Trevor Lawrence. Of course, after the game
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles yesterday, thirty seven seven rams over the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: Jags folded a record of two and ten on the season,
Speaker 1: and this is Jaguars Happy our j P Shadrick Pete
Speaker 1: Prisco and Tony Boselli, and it's time to Keep It
Speaker 1: Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Bundavi opened up a
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Speaker 1: let's get to the running back situation. We touched on
Speaker 1: it earlier tonight. What is the resolution here? What is
Speaker 1: what is the answer? And will we see more of
Speaker 1: James Robinson down the stretch here? What do you think? Um?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I don't know how healthy is
Speaker 1: and I am lost when it comes to the overall
Speaker 1: strategy of the rotation and the overall philosophy of what
Speaker 1: they want to do offensively. So I can't answer that question.
Speaker 1: I wish I could. I've been lost since the beginning.
Speaker 1: Why James Robinson hasn't been the focal point of this offense?
Speaker 1: And run the ball and be physical and in play
Speaker 1: auction pass off that slow down the pass for us.
Speaker 1: Take some shots, you know, a couple of shots a game,
Speaker 1: but really run it with James Robinson. Were like, he's
Speaker 1: getting twenty plus touches in the run game because he's
Speaker 1: your best back. I don't know. So I can't if
Speaker 1: he's not healthy, put him on the sideline because you
Speaker 1: can't have this him disappearing I don't care if he
Speaker 1: fumbles are not for twenty plays at a time. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense. And then throwing him in a
Speaker 1: garbage time at the end when you're telling me he's hurt.
Speaker 1: So they would have run the ball even if he
Speaker 1: was in there consistent, I mean, they didn't get any much.
Speaker 1: I'm talking overall, Pete, not just yesterday got they got
Speaker 1: their yesterday. Yeah. Oh yeah. You gotta play, and you
Speaker 1: gotta give the carries. And he clearly is better when
Speaker 1: he gets touches in a rhythm. We've seen that play out.
Speaker 1: I agree, if he's healthy, he's got to get to touches.
Speaker 1: I would give him. You said in the pre game,
Speaker 1: yesterday rushes a game. Yes, And then I tend to
Speaker 1: agree with you. He's your best play Like I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've noticed our passing a game right now?
Speaker 1: Are passing it? Attack isn't exactly explosive, But then again,
Speaker 1: you always got Carlos high with that extra juice you
Speaker 1: and that you have the little evil laughter that it's
Speaker 1: the laugh is strong to that, and it's because the
Speaker 1: jokes make themselves. Man don't even need a joke writer anymore.
Speaker 1: They just they just they just appear. The Grinch laugh
Speaker 1: like builds as the season goes along with Pete, and
Speaker 1: now he's in a prime December mode right now. You
Speaker 1: guys agree, you got Beselly holds his laugh back. I
Speaker 1: see him, He's like, are you talking about I'm not
Speaker 1: holding anything back laugh when I think it's funny. I
Speaker 1: don't want to. Don't you want to laugh the loud
Speaker 1: laugh that you normally laugh, and you're holding the back.
Speaker 1: I see you, Pete, I'll see this laughing at you.
Speaker 1: It's not funny. Losing football games is not funny, Pete.
Speaker 1: What's professional football? To win? You gotta win. You'renna win,
Speaker 1: not lose. It's not funny. But yeah, you're trying to win.
Speaker 1: It's not That's the That's the thing about it. It
Speaker 1: makes it funny because there's the things that come out
Speaker 1: of his mouth. I mean it's comedy. It really is.
Speaker 1: Somebody I saw somebody put on I think it was
Speaker 1: Matt Hayes put on Twitter. I love Matt for years.
Speaker 1: He said he thinks Iran's trying to get fired with
Speaker 1: some of the things coming out of his melt. Why
Speaker 1: was you trying to get fired? So I guess not
Speaker 1: the working great money. You get your money unless they
Speaker 1: unless they fire you for cause. Well, and they might
Speaker 1: be able to do that based on what happened in Uh.
Speaker 1: The dance hall wasn't a danceholl, dancehole. It sounds like
Speaker 1: something for like the fifties. It wasn't a suck hop.
Speaker 1: Well did he say that he was dancing or something?
Speaker 1: That's why I it was a bar pete was dance.
Speaker 1: There you go. We're keeping it real, keep it keeping
Speaker 1: it real, right square dancing? Uh? Was Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi.
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Speaker 1: That'll cheer us up. Social media questions, there were plenty
Speaker 1: of them. You love that? I mean, you love this
Speaker 1: be I'm convinced, like you, the more misery, the better
Speaker 1: he loves it, eats it up. I just hate to
Speaker 1: seeing a quarterback rotting away. He's running away before our eyes.
Speaker 1: I said it, what was it a month ago? Three
Speaker 1: weeks ago? The most important thing that for this franchise
Speaker 1: can do is to figure out and protect Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: He's the greatest asset they have that we have and
Speaker 1: you gotta build around him. Social media questions. When we return,
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back,
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Vasselli,
Speaker 1: Brent Reber on the audio tonight, Blake Stewart on the
Speaker 1: video side, glad you're along with us. After a Jaguars
Speaker 1: loss in Los Angeles against the Rams, thirty seven seven.
Speaker 1: The final score, it was ten seven at one point,
Speaker 1: it was zero zero, one point two. It was you
Speaker 1: were there, you saw it in person. It pulled away
Speaker 1: in the second half, the Rams did. And that's all
Speaker 1: she wrote. End of the first half of the first Yeah,
Speaker 1: they you know, they missed the touchdown past and settled
Speaker 1: for that field goal before halftime and all that stuff too, Odell.
Speaker 1: And then then they connected on many in the second half.
Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. And the hard part, I
Speaker 1: mean the hard part is did you look at like
Speaker 1: the game's coming, Like, let's just take the Titans and
Speaker 1: they're coming off a bye, coming off a loss for
Speaker 1: the bye. No, Derrick Henrys, that's good for the Derrick
Speaker 1: Kenry usually runs from eight hundred yards against us in Nashville.
Speaker 1: That's that's a positive, But like, can you even like
Speaker 1: building your like while the streams of vision where we
Speaker 1: score more than twenty points in the Titans, Like I
Speaker 1: struggled to especially like this whole James Robinson saga, Like
Speaker 1: what's going on there? The offensive line struggling as of late?
Speaker 1: It took them thirteen plays on a drive to get
Speaker 1: into the end zone, by the way, with a couple
Speaker 1: of penalties. Help yeah, in the red zone? Like how many?
Speaker 1: How many thirteen play touchdown drives? Really are there? Urban
Speaker 1: said this again, I think today or yesterday. You gotta
Speaker 1: have big plays, you know, you have to have big
Speaker 1: plays to score. It would be interesting to see. And
Speaker 1: I don't have the statistics and statistic in front of me.
Speaker 1: Maybe we were can pull it up as he's sitting
Speaker 1: there doing nothing looking at the computer right now. Um,
Speaker 1: where how many big plays do the Jags have this season?
Speaker 1: And where's that rank in the NFL? M hmm, that's
Speaker 1: gotta be last. It's gotta be well. I mean, you
Speaker 1: got the texted out there only average thirteen point seven
Speaker 1: points a game. They've had more big, big plays than that,
Speaker 1: though I don't know, I don't even know the number.
Speaker 1: So big play passes twenty five or more yards. This
Speaker 1: is according to stats dot com. Jaggards are thirty one
Speaker 1: in the league, actually tied for twenty nights with fourteen
Speaker 1: um the Titans. That's not how many of those are
Speaker 1: screen passes? That's the question. I mean, it's not you know,
Speaker 1: we're at the bottom where you guess, near the bottom,
Speaker 1: So how do you score points? Like that's the thing
Speaker 1: that's like frustrated, like I can't I can whether or not.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta have big plays and in explosive
Speaker 1: plays and field flipping plays and forty yard touchdowns are allowed,
Speaker 1: you know, but they haven't been able to do it.
Speaker 1: Let's get to social media questions. That's everybody that that.
Speaker 1: You know, we put out the bat signal earlier in
Speaker 1: the day. Here's the best we came up with today.
Speaker 1: Is it really a bat signal? Its tweet? It's a tweet.
Speaker 1: There's not like something we put in the sky. No,
Speaker 1: like a spotlight. No. No, that's just a saying question
Speaker 1: number one at Devil x Jaguar. Why is it the
Speaker 1: talent we do find once in a while, it's horrible
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, but they go somewhere else and excel. Is
Speaker 1: this franchise cursed? There's no such thing as a curse
Speaker 1: of a franchise Number one in my opinion, JP shaking.
Speaker 1: You think there's a curse, well, I mean I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what started it. I have no idea
Speaker 1: there is one. You think teams and no organizations be cursed. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: what was the rest of the question about being cursed?
Speaker 1: Some um pop that back up? Sorry, so why do
Speaker 1: they find my question and somewhere else? Who are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Like I think I know Mention probably come on,
Speaker 1: come on, it's one game. Cardner did that here? He
Speaker 1: said what he is the backup quarterback who can flash
Speaker 1: and win a game for you? And I'm happy for him?
Speaker 1: Like who else? The other one I'm thinking the price?
Speaker 1: Say in Leonard for Nett Allen Robinson, An's doing nothing
Speaker 1: this year, Quincy Williams, Jets Cling Cole Ciling. Cole is
Speaker 1: the third receiver. He probably the number one here, but
Speaker 1: it's not That's my whole point to the question, Like,
Speaker 1: there's not a long list of guys that we cut
Speaker 1: and go play somewhere else and play ground defensive guys
Speaker 1: like who the only traded off the guys from the
Speaker 1: seventeen team. Yeah, but they were good here. His point,
Speaker 1: someone not good here and then go somewhere else and
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like you're not placed. Campbell doesn't fall into
Speaker 1: that category because doesn't, and he doesn't, none of them do.
Speaker 1: So basically, I'm disagreeing with the question. Hey, Pete, do
Speaker 1: you believe in curses? The curse of the Jaguar wide receiver? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the curse of the Jaguars wide receivers. It lives on,
Speaker 1: it's gone on since this. First of all, you don't
Speaker 1: actually believe in real curses of teams now. But the
Speaker 1: position is jinx. So you say, right what you're like
Speaker 1: a pete fish. That's that's going to be his name. Hey, Flipper,
Speaker 1: just say what you mean, mean what you says. The
Speaker 1: jinx is different than the curse. Somebody put the curse.
Speaker 1: You gotta put the curse on something. How do you
Speaker 1: reverse That's why we have these Italian boards and stuff
Speaker 1: back in. How do you reverse it? Pete? How do
Speaker 1: you reverse the curse? Draft j This isn't work next
Speaker 1: year cursed reversed? Like do you have to do like
Speaker 1: what they did in Major League and go find like
Speaker 1: a live chicken or anything like that. It's not that,
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's really coincidental that the position. I
Speaker 1: don't believe it has been a disaster almost the entire
Speaker 1: existence of the franchise. It's not accurate. True, Jimmy Smith,
Speaker 1: do you have his issues? His issue is going to
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl every year too. But I mean, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Smith would be walking into camp and if he didn't
Speaker 1: have his issues. Miss my point, Pete, you're you're wow,
Speaker 1: you like that, JP? JP? What is that? What do
Speaker 1: you think you at the club? JP? We were talking
Speaker 1: about that the dance hall, Pete. He s, we're gonna
Speaker 1: clip and save that. We're gonna find that great that
Speaker 1: it was a perfect setup. That's what it was. Okay,
Speaker 1: after Jimmy and he had his issues, then all the
Speaker 1: way through, if there's been something, all right, the next one.
Speaker 1: So you're done, next question social media at s busting
Speaker 1: two seven, Given we pick number two, right, at least
Speaker 1: we get either Thibodeaux or Hutchinson. Sorry, Pete, No wide
Speaker 1: receiver in the draft is worth a top five pick.
Speaker 1: I would I would take one of the pass rushers.
Speaker 1: I look as much as I would think that they
Speaker 1: need to get help for the quarterback, as you gotta
Speaker 1: build around that guy. The way they rushed the passer
Speaker 1: and influence the quarterbacks. They gotta find another. You gotta stop.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the draft. You said we wouldn't
Speaker 1: have to talk about draft until they were eliminated from
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You have to say, guess what right is
Speaker 1: back next week for tonight at mid Next question then
Speaker 1: social media? Moving along today at duve all underscore to
Speaker 1: four guys, what should I tell my sixteen year old
Speaker 1: son after we just told me? Quote Dad, I can't
Speaker 1: do this with you anymore. The Jags never win and
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing. End quote. I just sat there and shocked,
Speaker 1: as he has watched since he was five. I'm worried
Speaker 1: for the future of this fan base. Hashtag how much
Speaker 1: can we take? Well, I don't like hearing what kids
Speaker 1: don't want to watch, and this, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a young man sixteen years old. First of all, it's
Speaker 1: that's that's worrisome, disappointing. But as a dad, you have
Speaker 1: a duty. You say, listen, you were for the Jags.
Speaker 1: You find somewhere else to live. Son So I told
Speaker 1: my kids true story. They're they're all Jaguar fans. Oh,
Speaker 1: they're big Jaguar fans at different My sons called me
Speaker 1: every game now, they complaining they're not happy right now.
Speaker 1: But I even went further. Mhm. I remember one fateful
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, USC playing Notre Dame and my then call him,
Speaker 1: six year old maybe seven, walks in and starts rooting
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. You know what I mean. Pete kicked
Speaker 1: him out of the house. I said, you either out
Speaker 1: to the street, kid, beat it. I said, you start
Speaker 1: rooting for USC, or you gonna find somewhere else to live.
Speaker 1: You're not rooting for Notre Dame. Out dad's responsibility to
Speaker 1: make sure the kid roots for Jacksonville. And you have to.
Speaker 1: You have to teach them. This is a great lesson
Speaker 1: in perseverance, overcoming challenges, holding on the hope against all hope,
Speaker 1: when all is lost and you think death is around
Speaker 1: the corner and just facing you, you hang on and
Speaker 1: you don't let go. That's the lesson that the jag
Speaker 1: Wars are trying to teach that this young man right now,
Speaker 1: and as a dad, you are responsible. Here's what he's
Speaker 1: learned it. He's sixteen, so since he's been five, he
Speaker 1: knows every year except one that had dead logs. So
Speaker 1: he's learned to count the ten one education, very education.
Speaker 1: The dad has to say, son, you have no choice.
Speaker 1: I will not feed you if you do not root
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. No cell phone, no games, no internet, nothing.
Speaker 1: Get a job, get a gin job, find a place
Speaker 1: to live. If you're not going for the Jags, you
Speaker 1: should tell a kid look if they don't start using
Speaker 1: Buch formations and don't have roots. Here we go again,
Speaker 1: let's move along social media on a roll tonight at
Speaker 1: Barbara Underscore, Mike is Chennault afraid to go over the middle.
Speaker 1: Why don't we throw the ball over the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. Man coverage absolutely kills us, and we seem
Speaker 1: happy to just die from it. Well, man coverage kills
Speaker 1: us because we don't run. Well, right, that's easy, all right.
Speaker 1: He used him in the backfield as a running back yesterday.
Speaker 1: Experiment didn't turn out well, yeah, that was that was.
Speaker 1: In other words, he's not Deebo Samuel. No, he doesn't
Speaker 1: run like Deebo Samuel. Last year, obviously, last year, ring
Speaker 1: between the tackles. Somebody looked, okay, right, well didn't Here's
Speaker 1: what didn't Van Jefferson go right behind Chenault. Not draft.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Why are you doing that? Why are
Speaker 1: we back to the draft talk? Yeah, that's old draft talk?
Speaker 1: Had drafted? You do that? Any draft? Pete? Well, we're
Speaker 1: doing him this one because he has worked out. Next question, good,
Speaker 1: Jefferson's a good player. That's why he is. He was
Speaker 1: in the end zone yesterday. They also at Jacob Ryan
Speaker 1: Hart too. Is it time to bring back the phone
Speaker 1: questions to the show? I think it's time to let
Speaker 1: Tony start yelling at fans again. That would be dangerous.
Speaker 1: How can you imagine? That's a producer question? You have
Speaker 1: to ask the who's the director the show? Well, Blake
Speaker 1: Sun video Studio director, what do you mean? What does
Speaker 1: that mean? Who's like the executive producer of the show.
Speaker 1: We've got like seven of them, But who's like calling
Speaker 1: the shots? End of day? I call the shots on
Speaker 1: this show. Okay, let me say, let me tell you
Speaker 1: the GP your last come with you on that one?
Speaker 1: So okay, but remember why we got rid of the calls?
Speaker 1: You do remember that? Why is that because if ASSELLI
Speaker 1: losing his marbles after time. I mean it was aggressive,
Speaker 1: really aggressive. I was was building confidence. You would take
Speaker 1: a question and the question is not even done being
Speaker 1: asked and you would just rip in the people well
Speaker 1: because and not even let him finish. They knew where
Speaker 1: it was going and it was nonsensical. So I was
Speaker 1: saving this time. You were the mean man. No, I
Speaker 1: was the I was the real man. No, you're you're
Speaker 1: so fake. You like you have you have like three
Speaker 1: one liners. Beat you got a bunch of formation and
Speaker 1: that's like that's his first go to second go too.
Speaker 1: It's like, what great would you put on that? What
Speaker 1: was great? What kind of great? You? What? What? And
Speaker 1: you you berated? The fan said, you said you got
Speaker 1: the segment out. He has been the same since, No,
Speaker 1: he hasn't. I think we got another social media question.
Speaker 1: One more to go. This is at g MAC one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 1: six seven real original The team has been rubbish for
Speaker 1: too long? Is it players, coaches or ownership that should
Speaker 1: be held accountable? And what can be done in the
Speaker 1: offseason to attempt to make this team competitive in the division. Seriously,
Speaker 1: I think this is a This is a social media
Speaker 1: like tex tweet, whatever you wanna call it that I've
Speaker 1: seen it feels like repeat on repeat the last like
Speaker 1: four or five years, like this time of year. Let's
Speaker 1: ask the question, who's fault is it? Should we do
Speaker 1: startles accountable? Let me tell you he's accountable, all of them,
Speaker 1: all the above. Obviously it starts a shot. Then it
Speaker 1: goes to you know the GM that, you know, the
Speaker 1: head coach, players, they're all accountable. They all got to
Speaker 1: do better. You need to draw a better, better plays,
Speaker 1: you need to execute better. JP needs to do the
Speaker 1: pregame show better. I don't think I think that. I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, the broadcast is a plus. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure we need to do better. But everyone else,
Speaker 1: I mean need to pull their weight. Seriously, who is
Speaker 1: to blame everybody? Right? Well, if you want one person
Speaker 1: to blame, didn't have to start with the owner because
Speaker 1: he's I mean, in this case, he runs, I mean
Speaker 1: he's hiring the key personnel. Right. I saw a number
Speaker 1: the other day where his record as the owner is
Speaker 1: like forty something in a hundred and thirties. That could
Speaker 1: that possibly be right? Last year? Yes? And they're up
Speaker 1: this year after we go you know, fifteen and two
Speaker 1: ten straight years, we'll be back up to be right there.
Speaker 1: Sustainable success comes to the quarterback position unless you ruin them,
Speaker 1: and you're one. We gotta we got a quarterback. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Though they're ruining him. Oh, just don't
Speaker 1: overstate that. I'm getting tired of people saying that too much.
Speaker 1: It's too early to say that. Oh I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not sitting there because I've had guys I worked with
Speaker 1: asked me if he's going to be a bust. I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Well, there's the flipper again, coming
Speaker 1: back again, Pete. He's just flipped on. That is this?
Speaker 1: He soar on both sides from flipping so much? That's
Speaker 1: how much? Whatever? Where did I? Where did you ever
Speaker 1: hear me say that Trevor Lawrence would be a bus ever? Basically?
Speaker 1: Just you said they're ruining him after well? I did not.
Speaker 1: I said he is a star of stars if they
Speaker 1: just help them. I heard different. I would you trade? Okay,
Speaker 1: here's one flipping Lawrence from mac Jones right now? Yes
Speaker 1: or no? Trevor Larns from mac Jones, No JP, no way,
Speaker 1: no way, I'll do it for our social media questions.
Speaker 1: Tonight we'll come back and go around the National Football League.
Speaker 1: Here some radio calls. Monday night night. You better be
Speaker 1: on your game. Maybe the best Monday night of the year.
Speaker 1: Division leaders, number one seed on the table. I better
Speaker 1: get some energy out of you. We might just run
Speaker 1: that back. You just did a promo right there. Thank you,
Speaker 1: It's well done. Yeah. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on
Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network, the station that the Jaguars listened
Speaker 1: to ten ten x, our home of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour. About ten minutes to go
Speaker 1: on this Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars lost yesterday. Let's see about the rest of
Speaker 1: the National Football League. In Week thirteen, Cowboys over the
Speaker 1: Saints on Thursday. You had that game tone. We're a
Speaker 1: bad football game, Pete, I following you on Twitter. How
Speaker 1: can on Peyton think Taysom Hill is the answer at quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't get it, and he's got it. He's always
Speaker 1: had an affinity for him. He really does. I've I've
Speaker 1: actually had conversation to him where I told him. He
Speaker 1: can't pass on it. He tries to defend them, he
Speaker 1: can't pass. Hm, you told him Pete had a lot
Speaker 1: of They've had a lot of body injuries. I mean
Speaker 1: they're no, I mean no, Camara just kills them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no tackles. Well, I mean but yeah, Camara is they're
Speaker 1: going yet they're owing four without camera. M hmm. Bucks
Speaker 1: over the Falcons thirty to seventeen. The Cardinals are still good.
Speaker 1: They beat the Bears thirty three, twenty two. Chargers over
Speaker 1: the Bengals. But for the Detroit Lions finally got a
Speaker 1: win the last play of the game. Dan Miller had
Speaker 1: the call, courtesy of w x y T FM on
Speaker 1: the Ticket and the Detroit Lions Radio Network. The Lions
Speaker 1: eleven yards from the ends one. They got to have
Speaker 1: four seconds to go. They can win it with a touchdown,
Speaker 1: first victory of the year. On the line, Golf's got
Speaker 1: it back. Looks gross and touchdown the tracks. They did it,
Speaker 1: Ima ross A Brown never Steve began. Oh, they're rushing
Speaker 1: the field. They've done it. Three zeros on the crock.
Speaker 1: This game is over. It's Oliver Shared to Ama ross
Speaker 1: A Brown his first career touchdown. And how big is that?
Speaker 1: Have a day? Boys, have a day, have a day.
Speaker 1: Lion's gonna do. That was a long clip. That was
Speaker 1: good that we finally got it done, Peter. They do
Speaker 1: a good job. What were they led? Dan Campbell off
Speaker 1: the hook, by the way, because he's leading late in
Speaker 1: the game, goes for it on fourth down, punting away
Speaker 1: right was from his own to nine. I think it
Speaker 1: was away. What are these coaches doing? I don't know.
Speaker 1: They should just watch you on Twitter and let him
Speaker 1: let you know. You you can tell him what to do. Pete.
Speaker 1: That's what you do all the time. I would The
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts and another big day shut out the Texans.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor with a touchdown now in ten straight games.
Speaker 1: This is Matt Taylor on the fan and handk FM Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Wait side of the count has Taylor. He's back to
Speaker 1: the left while they cos motions and the left side
Speaker 1: they get off the Taylor right up there, gut touchdown
Speaker 1: and d hy Jonathan Taylor put this second rushing score
Speaker 1: in the fall game and the Cults have broken and
Speaker 1: open twenty to nothing, shut out of the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: The Colts trying to surge here in December. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean they got, they got, they have yet ta goodbye
Speaker 1: there by keep talking about a late by thirteen weeks
Speaker 1: in this season, Um, yeah, there's three. There are three
Speaker 1: back against the UH Titans, so small margin of air. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. But the only she has to have the
Speaker 1: wind division is they have to run the table and
Speaker 1: UH Tennessee has to you know, lose three in the
Speaker 1: next five. It's a big gasque mathematically possible. Dolphins over
Speaker 1: the Giants twenty to nine, and then the Eagles Minshew
Speaker 1: Mania hits Philly Merrill Reese on sports Radio ninety four
Speaker 1: w I p Cho takes the snappy fakes. He's back,
Speaker 1: he's looking, he is firing. It is complete, breaking the
Speaker 1: tackle and going again. F the touchdown and cover thirty
Speaker 1: six yards. Well, the Vehagles over the Jets thirty eight teen,
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew Pete. Well, they threw they ran for a
Speaker 1: five yards. It's pretty easy to play quarterback and you
Speaker 1: run for hun eight five yards. And the one throw
Speaker 1: to Godard that was a touchdown, the long one on
Speaker 1: the sideline, he underthrew it. He didn't make a great throw.
Speaker 1: God had made a good play on it. He was Okay,
Speaker 1: I get this all the time. When when ever menshe
Speaker 1: wins a game, I get million people. Oh he should
Speaker 1: be starting. He should have been Jacksonville. Still, he should
Speaker 1: have been starting. He's better than starters around the league. No,
Speaker 1: he's not people who watched him on a regular basis
Speaker 1: like Baselli and and guys who cover the team. No,
Speaker 1: he's he can do this for a game or two.
Speaker 1: But that's what he is. He's a backup quarterback and
Speaker 1: he good for him. He played. Wow. Yeah, like this
Speaker 1: other thing, why why did rooting against guys like I'm
Speaker 1: happy for him? That doesn't mean I wanted to be
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback on my team. Happy for him. I
Speaker 1: mean the question is is does anyone think this franch
Speaker 1: has to be better with Gardner Minshew right now than
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence for the long haul? No? No, then what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? We're moving on to Washington in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and the football team gotta win with a
Speaker 1: late field goal and this is the opposing called Brent
Speaker 1: Musburger on the Compass Media Las Vegas Raiders radio network.
Speaker 1: Looks like it is going to be about a forty
Speaker 1: eight yard for the recently side field goal. Kicker forty
Speaker 1: eight yards crowd the one clicks it away off to
Speaker 1: the right and slides two on the right side to
Speaker 1: put Washington ahead seventeen to fifteen. What a pressure kick
Speaker 1: by Brian Johnson, young man for Virginia Tech Lossington over
Speaker 1: the Raiders seventeen fifteen. Yeah, I remember the Raiders at
Speaker 1: one point were with four and pet five and two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: five and two. They've they've got one in four pretty
Speaker 1: much since Gruden's firing and then obation in the UH
Speaker 1: safety as well, they let go. Yeah, well, give them,
Speaker 1: give the Washington credit and give Jack del Rio some
Speaker 1: credit too, because earlier the season I thought their depose
Speaker 1: was gonna be dominant, and they were bad, and then
Speaker 1: they lose Chase Young and Montes Sweat and now they've
Speaker 1: won for in a row and they played Dallas this
Speaker 1: week with a chance to close to the one game
Speaker 1: in the division. Well, you know who's playing good? Pete
Speaker 1: is Jonathan Allen like dominant, unbelievably good, unbelievably good for Alabama.
Speaker 1: Yes he did. He went to Alabama, the Ravens and
Speaker 1: the Steelers. The Ravens scored and decided to go for two.
Speaker 1: Bill Hill Grove had the call on one h two
Speaker 1: point five w d V and the Steelers radio network,
Speaker 1: Jackson and the gun freeman stands to us, right, freeman
Speaker 1: gets a fake big rush. He throws it. Hey, it's
Speaker 1: it's a rapt part. Mark Andrews pick one hand on
Speaker 1: it out in the right planet and dropped the ball
Speaker 1: and the Steelers preserved a victory with twelve seconds to go.
Speaker 1: To Wow. Wow, indeed about it. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: that's a bad loss for the Ravens because the Steelers
Speaker 1: are not very good now. Defensively, they're playing bad. They
Speaker 1: got t J. White back. I actually got the Steelers
Speaker 1: game Thursday night in Minnesota. I mean, that's that's a
Speaker 1: playoff game for those two teams. I think the loser
Speaker 1: puts him in especially. Yeah, the losers in trouble. But
Speaker 1: but what the hell did he go for two? He
Speaker 1: had no corners, he had better kicker. I mean, give
Speaker 1: me a break, he's had we he had he was
Speaker 1: down one corner. He's down. I was telling you what
Speaker 1: he said, I mean, you can, you can? You can? Said,
Speaker 1: what do you say? What did you say? Flipper? Would
Speaker 1: you gone for two? All? Right? Final two? Scores here,
Speaker 1: Seahawks over every Day, the Chiefs over the Broncos nine.
Speaker 1: Last night, Monday Night Football, It's a battle in the
Speaker 1: a f C East. Weather at issue tonight in Orchard Park,
Speaker 1: blizzard like conditions. The wind is howling at what used
Speaker 1: to be called rich Stadium's New Era field. I believe
Speaker 1: either way, it's Mac Jones and the eight and for
Speaker 1: New England Patriots against Josh Allen in the seven and
Speaker 1: four Buffalo Bills. Who you got tonight? Tone? You got
Speaker 1: me more prepared. You gotta know the name of the state,
Speaker 1: and so it flows that you had to break it down.
Speaker 1: You got tonight, Tone, I got the Patriots, and there
Speaker 1: the better team I got. I'm on the other side.
Speaker 1: I got Buffalo. I got Buffalo. Bad weather is going
Speaker 1: to be bad, bad weather December. Who can run the
Speaker 1: ball better? And the Patriots run it better than the Bills.
Speaker 1: The Bills have the better run defense, though. Patriots pretty
Speaker 1: good there, Pete, No, they're not in run defense. They
Speaker 1: give up twouter six yards last week. The Titans on
Speaker 1: the ground a Lanta. You told him, Pete, have a
Speaker 1: good one, have a good weeks here. That's Tony Boselli.
Speaker 1: Our entire crew, britt Reaver, Flake Stewart, I'm J P. Shadrick.
Speaker 1: Will see you next time. Jaguars Happy Hour on the
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