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Speaker 3: You're in the war where we're going to carry this

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Speaker 8: Well, I think I speak on behalf of the legislators

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to pretend.

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Speaker 9: To speak for all of them, but I do think

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Speaker 9: Codifying the House Settlement, really hurts women in Olympic sports.

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Speaker 9: I couldn't imagine signing my letter of intent and having

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Speaker 3: We talked to a lot of student athletes.

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Speaker 10: We have a number of student athletes in Congress who

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Speaker 10: Commissioner Sank talked about. So we listened to students, we

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Speaker 10: We absolutely will take more input, but only input that

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Speaker 10: That's what the Score Act does. We want to move

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Speaker 3: Mister President, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Steven. We have to move it quickly, otherwise

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Speaker 4: it's not affordable by colleges. Next to you, Steve, you

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Speaker 11: Thank you, President Trump. My name is Jim Phillips. I'm

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Speaker 11: I'll be your commissioner, so we'll look forward to seeing

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Speaker 4: We need everybody's help in this room.

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Speaker 11: There are six areas that the Score Act is the

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Speaker 4: We have thirty seven disparate laws.

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Speaker 11: Across the country, so what you can do in one

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Speaker 11: That just doesn't work when you have inter and interstate competition.

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Speaker 11: As Greg mentioned so well, the student athletes want to

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Speaker 11: a reaffirmation that these are student athletes. Not one of

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Speaker 11: limited liability protection. The lawsuits are willing us. They're absolutely

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Speaker 11: deems you eligible. Fourth degree completion. It's never been better

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Speaker 4: So the concept of what we're doing with your great

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Speaker 12: Please, Tim Pernetti, the Commissioner of the American Conference, Mister President,

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Speaker 12: thank you for putting this incredible meeting together. And more personally,

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Speaker 12: thank you for your support of the Army Navy game.

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Speaker 12: Like a lot of people have said in this room,

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Speaker 4: But we have to.

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Speaker 12: Examine other ways to solve the economic crisis. And these

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Speaker 12: If the Sports Broadcasting Act can be amended to provide

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Speaker 3: And let me just apologize.

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Speaker 8: I think NIL has been abused and my staff put

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Speaker 8: my name and image on the top of it really

441
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Speaker 8: big and that was sort of ironic and not intended.

442
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Speaker 8: Sorry about that, but I didn't get paid anything for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll back.

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Speaker 4: Uh anybody else?

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Speaker 14: Please, Cody, please yes, sir, mister President. I would like

446
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Speaker 14: to express my gratitude for your involvement interest in all

447
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Speaker 14: of this, and especially personally, the opportunity to be involved

448
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Speaker 14: in the in helping to find the solution because college sports,

449
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 14: as many have said, changed my life, you know, made

450
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Speaker 14: me a better businessman, a better husband, better father, and

451
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Speaker 14: made me better at life. In general, this is a

452
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Speaker 14: complex issue. It's multifaceted. There are a lot of different

453
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Speaker 14: perspectives on how it should be solved. There are a

454
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Speaker 14: lot of different agendas that are represented in this room,

455
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Speaker 14: and the Score Act is a good start. It gives

456
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Speaker 14: us a place that we can build on. But as

457
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Speaker 14: we move into the Senate, the political dynamics are going

458
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Speaker 14: to change and many of the agendas that are represented

459
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Speaker 14: in this room and outside of this room are going

460
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Speaker 14: to come into conflict with one another. The reality is

461
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Speaker 14: nobody's going to get everything that they want. You know,

462
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Speaker 14: if we're going to come to a solution on this,

463
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Speaker 14: we have to find a place where we're all sort

464
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Speaker 14: of equally unhappy, so to speak. That's just like any

465
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Speaker 14: other business deal. And I think what's key is that

466
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Speaker 14: we are all willing to come to the table and

467
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Speaker 14: compromise and work together. Recognize that the small schools are important,

468
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Speaker 14: the big schools are important, Women's sports are important, Olympic

469
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Speaker 14: sports are important. It's not just about big time college football.

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Speaker 14: And so that may require you twisting some arms along

471
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Speaker 14: the way to make sure that people work together and

472
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Speaker 14: are willing to give them little bit. And I understand

473
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Speaker 14: that this, this whole ecosystem of college sports wants all

474
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Speaker 14: of us. It's a national treasure, it's a public trust,

475
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Speaker 14: as I've heard Klay Travis say before, and I think

476
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Speaker 14: it's very accurate, and so it belongs to all the

477
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Speaker 14: American people, and all the American people should share in it.

478
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Speaker 14: And so I would just encourage everyone here, and I

479
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Speaker 14: think that might even be a commitment that you could

480
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Speaker 14: ask everyone to make is that they will work together,

481
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Speaker 14: they were a compromise, come to the table and be constructive.

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Speaker 4: So, Cody, I know you have worked very hard on this,

483
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Speaker 4: and frankly, you know you've been working on it long

484
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Speaker 4: and hard, maybe harder than anybody else. I've heard your

485
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Speaker 4: name mentioned more than anybody. Could you use this as

486
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Speaker 4: a base and we all get together, maybe as a

487
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Speaker 4: smaller group, and ultimately report back to the larger group

488
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Speaker 4: and come up with something. Do you think this is

489
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Speaker 4: a good base?

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Speaker 14: Yes, sir, I think it's certainly a good base, and

491
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Speaker 14: it's a great starting point. Again, the dynamics will be

492
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Speaker 14: different in the Senate and we will have to build

493
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Speaker 14: on it from there. And again a lot of these

494
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Speaker 14: tougher issues are going to come to their once we

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Speaker 14: get there.

496
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Speaker 3: But absolutely we should can.

497
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Speaker 14: Be in a smaller group that can work on those

498
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Speaker 14: things and work on the compromise that they need to

499
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Speaker 14: be made to be able to have a bill that

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Speaker 14: can get sixty votes in the Senate?

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Speaker 4: Is there any way we could go back to the

502
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Speaker 4: old system, which I thought was fantastic, and do something

503
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Speaker 4: with some compensation for the players and simplify things so

504
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Speaker 4: that you'd go back to a scholarship system plus some

505
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Speaker 4: compensation more minimal, but you know, a lot for a player.

506
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Speaker 4: I mean, for the most part, they would consider it

507
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Speaker 4: to be a lot, whether it was seventy five thousand

508
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Speaker 4: dollars or fifty thousand dollars or maybe more than that.

509
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Speaker 4: But you go back to that wonderful system that I

510
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Speaker 4: thought we had until this judge decided to just throw

511
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Speaker 4: everything out the window. And it's been worked out for

512
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Speaker 4: years and years, and it was finally honed, and then

513
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden, we're sitting in this crazy never

514
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Speaker 4: never land where colleges are losing hundreds of millions of

515
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Speaker 4: dollars and in many cases not even putting out competitive teams.

516
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Speaker 4: It's incredible. Is there any way that can work? Coach,

517
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 4: we were together and you had some pretty strong ideas.

518
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Speaker 4: How would you feel about that.

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Speaker 15: You know, as a coach. Well, first of all, thanks

520
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 15: for having us, and thank you. I speak on behalf

521
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 15: of so many of my former colleagues that I visit

522
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 15: them now and they're a mess. You know, I don't

523
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Speaker 15: see coaches sticking around longer, you know, the coaches getting

524
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 15: paid for them well, so they leave and enjoy their life,

525
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 15: because what they're dealing with is the loss of a

526
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Speaker 15: locker room. You take away team in our countries in trouble.

527
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Speaker 15: You know, my two girls played college volleyball and one

528
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Speaker 15: of the greatest interviews I've ever witnessed is she's at

529
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Speaker 15: Georgia Tech and said, I learned so much more on

530
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Speaker 15: the volleyball court than I ever learned an any classroom,

531
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Speaker 15: which I agree with. So I actually think it's a

532
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Speaker 15: simple fix. And it's not simple unless we get anti

533
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 15: trust protection because the NCAAA, when I was growing up

534
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Speaker 15: in the profession, if you violated a rule that was

535
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 15: a problem, you lose your job, and that was made

536
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 15: very clear throughout litigation and other issues. The NCAA has

537
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 15: become they don't have subpoena power and every time they

538
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 15: make a decision, they get litigated. And I get it.

539
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 15: I mean I see, I witness it. And as a result,

540
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Speaker 15: and we know this from some of the policies you

541
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Speaker 15: put in place. Rules without enforcement equals chaos. You only

542
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 15: need new rules. We got plenty of rules enforce them.

543
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Speaker 15: So if we get antitrust, then you now will not

544
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 15: get litigated. And I would eliminate. The only thing I

545
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Speaker 15: dislike about the score Act is that and coach save

546
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Speaker 15: and I have visited about this. Mac brownebe and I

547
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 15: have visited about this. Get rid of the collectives. That's

548
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 15: cheating when donors, so everyone understands what a collective is.

549
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 15: Donors put money in a pot. It's distributed by do

550
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 15: play through the coach and the general manager according to

551
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 15: your talent level. That's not allowed. I'm not supposed to

552
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 15: do that. That's called pay for play. So there's a

553
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 15: revenue share that the universities get through their television contracts

554
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 15: that I know goes up every year. That's their only

555
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 15: financial that's the only thing they're allowed to do for

556
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 15: their student athletes. They can distribute that however they want.

557
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 15: That's still pay for play. But any NIL conversations which NIL,

558
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 15: I think we all got a quick.

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Speaker 4: Calling at that.

560
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Speaker 15: It's not name and likeness. These players getting paid millions

561
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 15: of dollars and some of the stories I hear and

562
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 15: they're posting an Instagram for twice and then they are

563
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 15: getting paid one point five million dollars. So the NIL

564
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Speaker 15: to me, NIL in its purest form is America.

565
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Speaker 3: It's called capitalism.

566
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Speaker 15: If you can, if you can make money up on

567
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Speaker 15: your name, you should have a right to do that.

568
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Speaker 15: If you're a gymnast, a volleyball player, a swimmer, a

569
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Speaker 15: football player, and a car dealership, it wants to work

570
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 15: with you, leak legally in the business world, do it.

571
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 15: That's what nil should be. That's not what it is.

572
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 15: So you get rid of the collective becomes an illegal.

573
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Speaker 4: Entity.

574
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Speaker 15: There's no such thing, even to this day that makes

575
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 15: my skin curl when I hear a collective get the

576
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Speaker 15: donors out of it. If a business owner wants to

577
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 15: hire Jeremiah Smith and pay him a certain amount of money,

578
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 15: he's certainly allowed to do that. That's called capitalism. But

579
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 15: the universities cannot arrange that and set that up. The

580
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 15: universities can simply make sure the kids go to school,

581
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Speaker 15: make sure they graduate, treat them fairly, make sure the

582
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Speaker 15: women's sports the title nine. I'm all in favor of

583
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Speaker 15: all that, but they cannot get involved in the financial

584
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 15: marketing of your players. That's let the market take care

585
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 15: of itself. That's called the market. That's called capitalin and

586
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 15: if the collective, I think if the collective goes away,

587
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 15: college sports gets better at meeting when you say that

588
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 15: if we have antitrust exception.

589
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: You know, it's just sitting around and having watched college

590
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: sports for so long with no problems, no problems. What

591
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 4: this incompetent judge did to this game, knowing nothing at

592
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: all about sports, about anything that we're talking about today,

593
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: is a disgrace and it's going to be a very

594
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: hard thing to put back together. We'll get it done,

595
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: but what this person did to college sports is a disgrace.

596
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: I say it, and we've seen plenty of those type

597
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 4: of opinions. I had one recently, and it's gross incompetence,

598
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 4: is my opinion, and everybody suffers, including student athletes, including women,

599
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: are really taking the brunt of it. As what you

600
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: were saying before, it was so perfect for women, It

601
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: was so great for women the way it was, and

602
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: now we have to come up with a whole new

603
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: scheme to satisfy people, and they're going to be some

604
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: unhappy people. And it was working before a person that

605
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: knew absolutely nothing about sports made a ruling and she

606
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: turned a whole thing upside down, and it's really a disgrace.

607
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: You want another to the damn disgrace. But we are

608
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: where we are and we'll figure something out. Then it

609
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: won't be easy, and it won't be as good. In

610
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: my opinion, it won't be as good as what you

611
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 4: had before. And including for the students that were getting

612
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 4: great scholarships, and you know, some went on to professional

613
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 4: sports and most of them didn't, but they got great education.

614
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: They got it for free, and they had a lot

615
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 4: of fun going to college, and they learned a lot,

616
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: and they had great coaches, many of whom are around

617
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: the table. They learned more from those coaches in many cases,

618
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 4: and they learned in the classroom. So yeah, I appreciate

619
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Speaker 4: what you say. I don't think when these donors or

620
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: collectors or whatever you want to all different names for

621
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: different people. But as that money comes in, that's also

622
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 4: money colleges aren't going to get. You know, they're giving

623
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: money to players as opposed to giving maybe to the

624
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: college to keep a lot of colleges going. And that's

625
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: pretty tough also. But it's just a shame because I

626
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 4: hear I got involved just recently and I looked at

627
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: what's happened to colleges and to college sports, and it

628
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: is colleges the colleges are going to go out of business,

629
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 4: many of these colleges. When I look at what a

630
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: person that's a judge was able to do to destroy

631
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: colleges and college sports, so it was so good, no problems,

632
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 4: it's very very sad, and in some ways I'd like

633
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: to just go exactly back to what we had and

634
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: ram it through a court if we have to, because

635
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure you're ever going to come up with

636
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 4: a system that's comparable to what you had. And you know,

637
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 4: in life, you like to get better, not worse. You

638
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 4: like to go forward, not backward. No matter what you

639
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 4: come up with, you've gone backward, a long way backward

640
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: in many cases. Miss President, Yeah, please, Miss President. I did.

641
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Speaker 7: I want to thank you and echo the thanks for

642
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 7: bringing this group together, and I want to in particular

643
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 7: underscore the urgency that we have heard around this table.

644
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 7: College sports is an absolute crisis. Every single week, we're

645
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 7: seeing another program being canceled. We're seeing another women's team

646
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 7: being canceled, We're seeing Olympic teams being canceled, and the

647
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 7: current chaos. If Congress doesn't act, we are very quickly

648
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 7: going to be in a world of thirty to fifty

649
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 7: college football teams that are basically a mini NFL, and

650
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 7: the Division two and Division three schools are.

651
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Speaker 6: Going to be left behind.

652
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 7: And the millions of college athletes who right now scholarships

653
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 7: provide an avenue for them to get an education that

654
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 7: they never would have had, that'll go away, and that

655
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 7: would be an absolute travesty if we let that happen.

656
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Speaker 7: I will say, several people around this table said this

657
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Speaker 7: is a bipartisan issue, and we have bipartisan consensus. I

658
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 7: agree it should be a bipartisan issue, but it's worth

659
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Speaker 7: speaking realistically. The challenge is simple. You asked about the

660
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Speaker 7: Score Act. I think the Score Act has many good elements.

661
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Speaker 7: I think it is a very good first step. But

662
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Speaker 7: the challenge is for this to be passed into law

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Speaker 7: and put on your desk. We need sixty votes in

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Speaker 7: the Senate, which means we need at least seven Senate Democrats.

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Speaker 4: Right now, there are zero Senate.

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Speaker 7: Democrats who support the Score Act. I've spent the last

667
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Speaker 7: three years negotiating with Senate Democrats on this issue, and

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Speaker 7: I will say for some time we have been to

669
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Speaker 7: use a football analogy at the two yard line, but

670
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Speaker 7: not able to push and there are interest groups on

671
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Speaker 7: the left, in particular trial lawyers and unions that have

672
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Speaker 7: resulted in Democrat senators that are actively lobbying against the

673
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Speaker 7: Score Act and don't want to see legislation passed. And

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Speaker 7: so my hope there are a lot of people around

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Speaker 7: this table who care desperately about college sports. My hope

676
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 7: is that you speak out to Democrat senators and urge

677
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Speaker 7: them let's come together and solve this together.

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Speaker 4: And I think a solution.

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Speaker 7: Part of a solution needs to be on the cost side,

680
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Speaker 7: and I think part of the solution should be discussing

681
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Speaker 7: and looking at the revenue side. I think both of

682
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Speaker 7: those are important parts of a solution. There are a

683
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Speaker 7: number of Senate Democrats who care about this but have

684
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Speaker 7: not quite gotten to the point of getting to yes.

685
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Speaker 7: That's the single biggest challenge. And I think the collective

686
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Speaker 7: voices around this table adding to the urgency that if

687
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Speaker 7: we wait another year, if we wait another two years,

688
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 7: the programs in your state are going away. In the

689
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 7: students in your state are losing their scholarships, and it

690
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Speaker 7: would be an absolute travesty if we let that happen.

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Speaker 2: Pressing, thank you, and I want to underscore that sense

692
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Speaker 2: of urgency. On the Senate side, I do think there's

693
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Speaker 2: a growing number of senators that do understand that if

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Speaker 2: we're here a year from now, we're in a much

695
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Speaker 2: worse place. If we're here two years from now, college

696
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Speaker 2: or college sports looks entirely different and it would be

697
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Speaker 2: a disaster. So I do think that that growing sense

698
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: of urgency is important. I do think I appreciate you

699
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Speaker 2: convening this. You have unique credibility on this, not just

700
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Speaker 2: being president, but we've spent time at the super Bowl,

701
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Speaker 2: watching the Super Bowl, playing golf. You love sports, you

702
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: have credibility on it, You care about it, and I

703
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 2: think that authenticity matters for the leadership that we need.

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Speaker 3: I do think that if we're serious about.

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Speaker 2: This, the anti trust exemption matters for the governance side,

706
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Speaker 2: But I think the revenue side is inextricably linked to

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Speaker 2: the success of this. If you are losing money on

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Speaker 2: a football and I from Missouri, we love you know

709
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Speaker 2: we're in the SEC. If you're losing money on your

710
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Speaker 2: football program, you're not gonna be able to subsidize the

711
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Speaker 2: women's sports and the Olympic sports. So I do think

712
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Speaker 2: that we can come together. I am hopeful and optimistic

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Speaker 2: by the people who are represented in this room and

714
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Speaker 2: as we move forward that we can find a solution

715
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Speaker 2: we have to. This is not just because we like

716
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Speaker 2: watching sports on TV. Why this is important. They are

717
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: lives that can be changed forever if we do the

718
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Speaker 2: right thing. And I think you've got the right people

719
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Speaker 2: in the room, and I think you're the right guy

720
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Speaker 2: to lead this effort. We're here to support those efforts

721
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Speaker 2: in the Senate.

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Speaker 4: Can I ask Charlie Baker, Charlie, do you think we

723
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Speaker 4: could come back to a solution or get a solution

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Speaker 4: that was as good as what we had before, or

725
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Speaker 4: almost as good as what we had before, or maybe better.

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Speaker 4: I don't think better, but maybe would you say that'spousible? Charlie,

727
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Speaker 4: You're in the position to be able to tell maybe

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Speaker 4: better than anybody else. Well.

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Speaker 16: I certain, First of all, I appreciate the question because it's,

730
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Speaker 16: at the end of the day, the one we all

731
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Speaker 16: care about the most, which is can we create a

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Speaker 16: system going forward that's better than the one we have now?

733
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Speaker 16: And and I think the focused people. The thing about

734
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Speaker 16: the Score Act that everybody needs to remember here is

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Speaker 16: it's a It's a comprehensive piece of legislation that deals

736
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Speaker 16: with a whole series of things that I think everybody

737
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Speaker 16: would agree or a problem the discussion. The place where

738
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Speaker 16: the discussion gets a little more complicated is the issue

739
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Speaker 16: about the cost and the revenue side and the implications

740
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Speaker 16: of those two issues. And if I were to say

741
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Speaker 16: to this group, where's the where's the place to go?

742
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Speaker 16: It would probably be there. And do I think if

743
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Speaker 16: you could get that resolved, you could create something that

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Speaker 16: most people would view is better than better than what

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Speaker 16: we had before. I think you'd certainly be heading in

746
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Speaker 16: that direction. The big, the big thing we all have

747
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Speaker 16: to remember here is that the way it was before,

748
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Speaker 16: and I'm I'm I'm almost seventy, so I remember those

749
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Speaker 16: days quite well, sports and media played a comple pletely

750
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Speaker 16: different role in our society than the one they play now.

751
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Speaker 16: And the money piece, in particular is got to be

752
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Speaker 16: part of the conversation, and that's got to involve the

753
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Speaker 16: student athletes. And your point, mister President, about coming up

754
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Speaker 16: with a more structured way of dealing with that, I

755
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Speaker 16: think is a good one. But that's got to be

756
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Speaker 16: part of the dialogue. For the same reason that the

757
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Speaker 16: revenue piece has to be part of the dialogue as well.

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Speaker 4: So much money was paid to students in the form

759
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Speaker 4: of scholarships. What was the exact number that you said,

760
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Speaker 4: Charlie before.

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Speaker 16: Four point one billion?

762
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Speaker 4: Last year four point one billion was paid to the

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Speaker 4: students in the form of scholarships. And everybody was happy.

764
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Speaker 4: Everybody was happy. And now you got yourself a mess,

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Speaker 4: and I think you should just go back the way

766
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Speaker 4: you have and let some judge tell you you can't

767
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Speaker 4: do it, and you appeal it up and you win

768
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Speaker 4: at some point, because I think what you had was

769
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Speaker 4: a great system. Four point one billion dollars. Everybody was happy.

770
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Speaker 4: Now you have a thing that you're never going to say.

771
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Speaker 4: You have a jigsaw puzzle that's not going to be

772
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Speaker 4: put back together, and colleges are going to go out

773
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Speaker 4: of business. And I think you go back. And the

774
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Speaker 4: players that got the twelve million dollars, a seventeen year

775
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: old quarterback, they got twelve million, one got fourteen million.

776
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Speaker 4: Are here the negotiating one at eighteen million dollars. Who's

777
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Speaker 4: They don't know if he's got an accurate arm, but

778
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 4: he's got a strong arm. Coach. Accuracy counts too. They

779
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: have no idea they're going to give eighteen million dollars.

780
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Speaker 4: And you know what, those guys that already signed contracts,

781
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Speaker 4: you know what, call that dolatto. They hit the jackpot.

782
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Speaker 4: Let them have their money. You can't do anything about it,

783
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Speaker 4: but I'd like to see and I'll tell you, I

784
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: just don't think it's right that a judge is allowed

785
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Speaker 4: that knows nothing is allowed to destroy college sports and colleges.

786
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Speaker 4: And I'd like to see you go back to where

787
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Speaker 4: you were, enhance it a little bit through some compensation,

788
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Speaker 4: and let them take you to court, because no matter

789
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Speaker 4: what you do, you're gonna be sued. You can do

790
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Speaker 4: one hundred, You could give everybody everything, and you're gonna

791
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 4: end up back in court, and you'll probably have a

792
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Speaker 4: judge that doesn't know a damn thing. And it's a mess.

793
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Speaker 4: It's a mess. And I don't know whether or not

794
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Speaker 4: that decision was appealed. Was that decision ever appealed? Does

795
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Speaker 4: anyone know? Because I heard it was not appealed.

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Speaker 9: I believe the House Settlement is being litigated now because

797
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Speaker 9: it violentce.

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Speaker 4: But was it appealed? The decision the House Settlement? I

799
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Speaker 4: think the original decision by the judge from California. Was

800
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Speaker 4: that appealed?

801
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Speaker 6: Oh oh okay, I'm sorry I misunderstood.

802
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, the answers though it was settled. Because it was

803
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Speaker 4: I think the why did somebody appeal it?

804
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Speaker 17: The prior case, which is Alston versus the NZA, was

805
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 17: appealed to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court found

806
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Speaker 17: nine zero against the college position to defend the old system.

807
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Speaker 17: So that's I think the answer is the anti trust

808
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 17: piece is the inherent problem in trying to create caps

809
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Speaker 17: and limits.

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Speaker 4: That's it. So the Supreme Court was responsible for this.

811
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Speaker 3: I'm not the one who's going to say that. I'm

812
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: not bold enough to say that, but at least acknowledged.

813
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: Supreme Court responsible for this nine nothing in Kavanaugh supported.

814
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Speaker 4: It's a shame. It's a shame.

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Speaker 18: Yes, sir, please, mister President, thank you for bringing this

816
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Speaker 18: esteem group together. I have a bit of a unique

817
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 18: perspective because for most of my career I was in

818
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 18: professional sports. I became the commissioner three and a half

819
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 18: years ago. I found a system that quickly was defined

820
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Speaker 18: by unlimited free agency and no salary cap, in complete chaos.

821
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Speaker 18: I am and representing the big twelve. We are very

822
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Speaker 18: much in favor of the Score Act. I like to

823
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Speaker 18: say it's progress over perfection, and it provides no different

824
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Speaker 18: than what Commissioner Phillips said, the core principles of what

825
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Speaker 18: we need to move this thing forward. One thing that

826
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Speaker 18: we didn't discuss so far today was that the protection rights,

827
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Speaker 18: which is obviously part of the score Act, and there's

828
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Speaker 18: a component there about regulating sports agents that we need

829
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Speaker 18: to really look at now. I know we have some

830
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Speaker 18: agents in the room, and I have a lot of

831
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Speaker 18: respect for that industry, but right now they are taking

832
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Speaker 18: full advantage of our student athletes. Usually in the NBA

833
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Speaker 18: or the NFL, it's a three to four maybe five

834
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Speaker 18: percent commission.

835
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Speaker 3: In some cases they're charging over twenty. We talked about

836
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Speaker 3: the portal.

837
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Speaker 18: Most agents are pushing our student athletes into the portal,

838
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Speaker 18: and the recent numbers show that over forty percent don't

839
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Speaker 18: even find a home once they get into portal. And

840
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Speaker 18: because they're being pushed into the portal, and mister Sankie

841
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 18: said it earlier, they're losing credits towards their degrees. So

842
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 18: we have a problem on our hands, obviously, And I

843
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 18: don't believe in in perfection. I do believe in progress,

844
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 18: and I think the score Act is a great first

845
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 18: step for us to move forward and on behalf of

846
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Speaker 18: the Big Twelve Conference. We are all in favor of it,

847
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Speaker 18: and we'd like to see a sense of urgency. We

848
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 18: need something done soon because if not, you know, our

849
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Speaker 18: university is going to suffer, our student athletes will suffer,

850
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Speaker 18: and we need help.

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Speaker 3: So we appreciate you bring.

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Speaker 4: Well us together today.

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Speaker 15: Dude.

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Speaker 4: I just hate to see what you're going through. I

855
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: hate to see what's happening to our great to our

856
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 4: country essentially, because this is our country, this is the

857
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: youth of our country, and it's a terrible thing that's happening.

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Speaker 4: Because you know, these crazy payments that are being made

859
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Speaker 4: to you're not Colleges are not going to be able

860
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Speaker 4: to help themselves, just like the NFL owners would be

861
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: able to help themselves if they didn't have a cap.

862
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Speaker 4: But you have a much bigger problem than a cap,

863
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Speaker 4: and you have a complexity problem, and you have a

864
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Speaker 4: problem where women are being thrown out of sports like

865
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Speaker 4: at levels never seen before, and you're going to have

866
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Speaker 4: other things that come up that nobody's even thinking about

867
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Speaker 4: right now, and You're not going to be able to

868
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Speaker 4: solve these problems. You're just not going to be able

869
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Speaker 4: to solve these problems. You know, Ted said something before

870
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Speaker 4: that the democrats, I think Eric was alluding to it.

871
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Speaker 4: But you have a lot of Democrats in the Senate

872
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Speaker 4: that I hear are opposed to almost anything. So if

873
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Speaker 4: you do and I have to deal with these people

874
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 4: all the time. Okay, you saw them the other night.

875
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 4: They wouldn't stand up for a soldier that was a

876
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 4: great hero and got the Congressional Medal of Honor. They

877
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 4: sat there. They wouldn't stand up. They wouldn't even smile.

878
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 4: They wouldn't clap for a woman that lost their daughter

879
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: whose throat was slashed. Wouldn't stand up. They sat and

880
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: they didn't stand up. They didn't do anything. And we

881
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 4: have to deal with these people. But Ted, you said

882
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 4: that there are seven Democrats that will not vote yes. Eric,

883
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 4: you know the situation better than almost anybody in the

884
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 4: room except maybe me. I have to deal with it

885
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 4: even more than you. But you know, if you've got

886
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 4: all these hardline Democrats that want to see everything fail,

887
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 4: it's a problem. You know for a fact these people

888
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 4: would vote.

889
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 7: Note what we need at least seven who will get

890
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 7: to yes, because that's how we get to sixty. Right now,

891
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 7: the score Act has zero, So I'm glad.

892
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: I'm glad I'm not moving it. And they've got some

893
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: Democrats in the House.

894
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 7: That's beneficial, and I think when the House passes it,

895
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 7: that momentum is helpful. And there are a number of

896
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 7: Senate Democrats. I mean, I've spent literally thousands of hours

897
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 7: negotiating with my Democrat colleagues and their number who want

898
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 7: to address it, but it is their political leadership that

899
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 7: is telling them to stop.

900
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 11: And so.

901
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 4: What has got to happen is the folks in each.

902
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 7: Of the states need to say to your elected Democrats,

903
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 7: if you don't act, we're going to lose what is

904
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 7: so extraordinary about college sports, and it needs.

905
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 4: You that lost You've already lost it. You've already lost it.

906
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 4: Colleges are losing four or five hundred million dollars and

907
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: they haven't even started yet, so you've already lost it

908
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 4: in the true sense, and you've lost something else. It's

909
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 4: it's like, it's ugly. What's happened to sports in college before?

910
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: It was beautiful? It was a beautiful thing and now

911
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 4: it's very ugly. It's become very ugly. And I think

912
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 4: you're right. You're gonna have people that will never vote

913
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 4: for anything no matter what you agree You could agree

914
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 4: to everything that's perfect, and they will never vote. And

915
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not doing this as I'm doing this

916
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 4: as a practical person. No matter what you agree to,

917
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 4: you have people in the Senate and in the House

918
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 4: that will never vote for it, even if it's good

919
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 4: for our country, even if it's great for the player,

920
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 4: great for the college, and great for our country, and

921
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 4: they will still vote no because they're cuckoo. They've got problems.

922
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 4: Maybe it's problems at home, Cody, but they have problems.

923
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 4: So that gives us problems. And I think what I'm

924
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: going to do is I'm going to sit down with

925
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 4: some of the people in this room, like Urban, like

926
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 4: coach a very fine coach, Nick who went a lot.

927
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: You want a lot? How many six national championships? You

928
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 4: could have done better? You had a couple of games?

929
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: Did you were seven? What?

930
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 18: Au?

931
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: Six? Seven? All right, so I think he qualifies, right,

932
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 4: But I'd like to sit down with some of the

933
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: very talented people in this room and we'll pick them

934
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 4: out if you'd like to volunteer. Volunteer, and I'd like

935
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 4: to sign an executive order that I'll write myself based

936
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 4: on common sense, and it'll be something that people will

937
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 4: be sort of happy about. Some will be sort of happy,

938
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: Others will be sort of happy, and maybe that's a

939
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 4: good thing. There'll be a few people that won't like anything.

940
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: But I'd like to write an executive order based on

941
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 4: some of the very great talent in this room, and

942
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 4: we will be sued and we'll go before a court,

943
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 4: and maybe maybe we'll have a judge that's realistic, reasonable

944
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 4: and wants to do a favor for the country, because

945
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 4: that's the only way this is going to be solved.

946
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 4: So I'm going to sit down and I'm going to

947
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: write an executive order based on many of the statements

948
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 4: made today, many of the statements I've been hearing over

949
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 4: the last year about what a disaster this is for colleges,

950
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 4: for the players, for the families, ruling families, ruining everything,

951
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 4: And we're going to do it very well thought out

952
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 4: executive order. A lot of you are going to be

953
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 4: involved in that, All of anybody that would like to

954
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 4: just let me know and that'll be placed before the courts,

955
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: and hopefully a judge who's a real judge, a compassionate judge,

956
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 4: and a judge with common sense, will get it approved.

957
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 4: And maybe it won't, and maybe it won't hold up.

958
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 4: Maybe they'll say you can't do an executive order, which

959
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 4: case you say, welcome to the court system of this

960
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 4: country which has gone totally out of control, totally out

961
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 4: of control. And maybe not, but that's the only way

962
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 4: you're going to get this done. So I'm going to

963
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: write an executive order. And the executive order is going

964
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 4: to be based on great common sense, and it's going

965
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: to let colleges survive and play survive and let a

966
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 4: lot of people be very, very happy. And let's see

967
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 4: if we can get it through the court system, which

968
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 4: we might not be able to do, in which case

969
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 4: I guess we'll have to meet again and we'll probably

970
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 4: be through the same system. Look, if this doesn't work,

971
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 4: colleges are going to be destroyed. Women's sports are going

972
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 4: to be destroyed. First before anything, before anybody, before anything,

973
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: Women's sports are already being cut in every college. The

974
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 4: first thing they're cutting, which is very unfair, is women's sports.

975
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: And then they're cutting lesser sports. Sports that are very

976
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 4: good sports, great sports are being cut, and you're going

977
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 4: to be left with football, and the football is going

978
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: to lose so much money that the colleges are all

979
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 4: going to go bankrupt, all because of a bad number

980
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 4: of decisions made by courts, including I guess the Supreme Court.

981
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 4: If you say it was a bad decision in the

982
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: Supreme Court, I think the Supreme Court ought to be

983
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 4: ashamed of itself for a lot of reasons. Okay, a

984
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 4: lot of reasons. I got to live with these people

985
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 4: and I say this, and they'll only vote bad And

986
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 4: I couldn't care less at this point. They have hurt

987
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 4: this country so badly because they haven't had the guts

988
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 4: to do what's right. So, and I can tell you

989
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: about other things too, not just this. So we're going

990
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 4: to do an executive order. And I think it's going

991
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 4: to be an executive order that the people in this

992
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 4: room and the students and the colleges will be proud of.

993
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: Whether or not it holds up in court, I can't

994
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: tell you that. But you're not going to get it

995
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: through the Senate, and you're probably not going to get

996
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 4: anything through the House because you have a bunch of

997
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 4: lunatics that you have to deal with, Mike, and better

998
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 4: you than me, go ahead.

999
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 8: Well, I applaud the effort for an executive order, and

1000
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 8: I think everybody around the table is grateful for that.

1001
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 8: Min I suggest this President that while you're using the

1002
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 8: Article to authority, that we still work in the lane

1003
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 8: of Article one. The playbook has to be wider than that,

1004
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 8: I think. And so what what I would suggest, and

1005
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 8: humbly before everyone here, is that we take I think

1006
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 8: almost everyone around the table we've heard today believes that

1007
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 8: at least the Score Act is a is a base

1008
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 8: to work from. Can we still continue to try to

1009
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 8: work through that? We do have some Democrat support, and

1010
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 8: as was said, we've got we've got some fine points

1011
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 8: to get into you on it, okay, And and and

1012
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 8: what I think is and what I was hopeful for,

1013
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 8: is that the leaders around this table, representing such a

1014
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 8: broad array of interest and groups around the country and

1015
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 8: both parties, that the influence collective influence of the I

1016
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 8: hate the word collective, Coach Meyer, I'm sorry keeps saying,

1017
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 8: but the the the influence of all the people around

1018
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 8: this table could help us get some of those criticals,

1019
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 8: you know, Democrat votes in the Senate, and I don't

1020
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 8: think we should or could abandon that effort.

1021
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 3: We try it. I'm an optimist.

1022
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 4: I think you go both ways. Yes, let me do

1023
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 4: an executive order. You go ahead and play games with

1024
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 4: these people.

1025
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, we'll give it the quarterback.

1026
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 4: There, give it a shot, and maybe the fact that

1027
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 4: we do the one helps you get the votes in

1028
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: the other. Okay. Does that sound okay, Randy, Yeah, I

1029
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: think so. And I think at the end of the day,

1030
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 4: it was the president.

1031
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 19: As you've heard here, we need an anti trust exemption

1032
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 19: and the only people who have been doing are the Congress,

1033
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 19: and I heard from all of the Senators and the representatives,

1034
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 19: and I agree the score actor is a start, but

1035
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 19: when you're leadership, I really do believe we can move

1036
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 19: the ball. I have ideas, brilliant people here have ideas

1037
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 19: where we can add on it. And based on my

1038
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 19: conversations with Democrats, I think they want to do this.

1039
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 19: I think the congresswoman said that, and I think that

1040
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 19: there's a way to do this, and your executive order,

1041
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 19: again showing leadership.

1042
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 4: Stepping out is good, but I think we go on both,

1043
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 4: don't forget the executive order can then be put before Congress,

1044
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 4: and Congress can vote on it, change it a little bit,

1045
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 4: vote on it. But I'm looking to do it straight

1046
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 4: and let Congress go a different path. And you know,

1047
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 4: you may get a judge that understands what's happening, and

1048
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 4: you may get some very good opinions coming out of

1049
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 4: a very smart judge who will be beloved all over

1050
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 4: our country as opposed to hated and disrespect it. So

1051
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 4: that said, so Randy, could I ask you to do

1052
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 4: the following, either a sample or get everybody in some

1053
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 4: form come up with a proposal, play with the Score

1054
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 4: Act or do something different than the Score Act, but

1055
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 4: maybe you use the Score Act as a base. I

1056
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 4: separately will get some of the people in this room,

1057
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 4: and we're going to do a really good executive order

1058
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 4: and maybe Jim will put that executive order in front

1059
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 4: of the Senate and the House, and who knows, maybe

1060
00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 4: we get a vote and maybe we don't. But talking

1061
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 4: about not even going before the Senate of the House,

1062
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 4: just having an executive order where we'll be sued and

1063
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 4: we'll go before the courts and here we go again.

1064
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 4: But I think at the same time, you go down

1065
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 4: a separate track said all right, okay, is that okay? Good? Uh?

1066
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 4: Other than that, we've had a great time. The press

1067
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: will take one or two questions. Please. It sounds like

1068
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: those Russians are helping ran target and attack me in

1069
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 4: our gas. Now that's an easy problem compared to what

1070
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 4: we're doing here. But can I be honest, It's just

1071
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: I have a lot of respect for you. You've always

1072
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 4: been very nice to me. What a stupid question that

1073
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 4: is to be asking at this time we're talking about

1074
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 4: something else. Can we keep this maybe a little bit?

1075
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 4: Go ahead? Please?

1076
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 6: My question is for.

1077
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 20: My son, Joe is a high level of dun athlete,

1078
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 20: the third year relief benshirt University of Maryland.

1079
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 4: How that where.

1080
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 20: I'm telling you that?

1081
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 4: Thank you?

1082
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 20: But the eligibility thing is a disaster in the NCAA.

1083
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 20: You have, uh, the redshirt system, you have a medical system.

1084
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 20: It's all being scammed and in a week or two

1085
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 20: division the second Division D two is passing a blanket

1086
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 20: five year eligibility without medical, without red shirt, just a

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Speaker 20: five year eligibility that's going to be solved and d

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Speaker 20: wind with the commissioners in this room right now?

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Speaker 6: Why don't we sell it?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Thank you, m I'd like to know the same thing.

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Speaker 4: In a way, you're not going to solve it because

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Speaker 4: we've had some very very bad, incompetent decisions, things that

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Speaker 4: were routine before or that were solved long before. Now

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Speaker 4: you're into a brand new system. Yes, ma'am, I'm mister president.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Could you tell us what went into your decision to

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Speaker 1: replace Secretary Known with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.

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Speaker 4: Is it possible to stay on this subject just for once,

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Speaker 4: you know, just for once? Boy oh boy? Anybody have

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Speaker 4: any questions on this subject?

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Speaker 17: What is your timeline for either the executive order that

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Speaker 17: you just mentioned or the legislation that the member.

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Speaker 4: I will have an executive order within one week. Well,

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Speaker 4: and it'll be very okay, this is the war room.

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Speaker 10: We're passing now to the John Solomon Schuger and continue

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Speaker 10: to cover this live on America's Voice, and we're.

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Speaker 4: Going to see how it does. Okay, But I'll have

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Speaker 4: an executive order which will solve every problem in this room,

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Speaker 4: every conceivable problem, within one week, and we'll put it forward.

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Speaker 9: We