Speaker 1: What's the AD's spooky juky? I'm really sure it's dead.
Speaker 1: He's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait, I sasas Pllease, hey boo, It's me Roz and
Speaker 2: welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez is the podcast where
Speaker 2: I talk to people.
Speaker 1: That I like about the para normal. We've got some
Speaker 1: three time customers here, Tim Murray and Michael Henry, who
Speaker 1: are two hilarious comedians and friends of mine. The two
Speaker 1: of them really crack me up. This is a particularly
Speaker 1: lucy goosey episode. Don't you worry we talk about ghost
Speaker 1: but damn, the two of us, just three of us,
Speaker 1: just uh, we have ourselves a freaky kiki. I'm on
Speaker 1: tour right now. Rosernandeztewart dot com. It's been so fun.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see you soon, so go get those
Speaker 1: ticks if I haven't seen you already, and uh, let's
Speaker 1: just get into it. Here is me once again, with
Speaker 1: Tim Murray and Michael Henry and with the show. Oh
Speaker 1: my gord, I haven't talked to these two in a minute,
Speaker 1: but every time I do, you better believe it's recorded,
Speaker 1: and you better believe it's fun. Michael Henry and Tim Murray,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the podcast third time.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having us. I love every time you
Speaker 3: talk to us. You better believe it's recorded as if
Speaker 3: we to each other off.
Speaker 1: Why do you ben, I have not seen either of you,
Speaker 1: and I've been worried you sick.
Speaker 3: But you're like, if those cameras aren't rolling, nothing that
Speaker 3: you say matters exactly.
Speaker 1: Wait, you know that's like a famous pearl from RuPaul
Speaker 1: Strake Race gave this interview and she said that RuPaul,
Speaker 1: which I'm always I always back Roupaul because I say,
Speaker 1: that's that's my mother. And you don't always agree with
Speaker 1: your mother, but at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: our mother. And she did say something about if the
Speaker 1: cameras aren't rolling, it doesn't matter and mother needs your check.
Speaker 3: I'm on mother's side. I'm on roots side in this
Speaker 3: in this argument.
Speaker 1: I am too as somebody that has done a reality
Speaker 1: show with ghosts. You don't know how many times I
Speaker 1: wanted to say to these ghosts, this does not matter.
Speaker 1: If the cameras aren't rolling, do not be spooking me
Speaker 1: right now because we're on lunch break, I'm in the bathroom, whatever,
Speaker 1: So save it for when the cameras are rolling.
Speaker 4: It really in retrospect. Roo was trying to do Pearl
Speaker 4: a favor by saying, no, don't you want your shit
Speaker 4: on cam? Later, when she did only fans, she got the.
Speaker 1: Look that is an iconic moment in Queer history of
Speaker 1: that interview. And I will say I was, I was
Speaker 1: in the room, but she gave the interview. People don't
Speaker 1: know this well, yes, well because I used to always
Speaker 1: do stuff with Johnny, Yeah, with Hay Queen, which is
Speaker 1: where she did that and shout out to them, I
Speaker 1: love Hey Queen. And I happened to be in the
Speaker 1: studio that day and I was like, oh, I want
Speaker 1: to like watch Pearl, like because I had such a
Speaker 1: crush on Pearl, and I was like, let me just
Speaker 1: see what she's talking about. And then then she said that,
Speaker 1: and we were all behind the cameral like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be iconic. So think about that next time. Michael,
Speaker 1: you are on Zoom right now and you have a
Speaker 1: full on drive through doing the Taco bell line. You
Speaker 1: have the you know, you have the microphone headset.
Speaker 4: In this economy, you need a side.
Speaker 1: Are you currently.
Speaker 4: Currently people doing the window at Arby's Booty extra Beef
Speaker 4: to that Horsey Horsey song.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna have to take a break to go
Speaker 1: flip some some pay? Yeah, some beef.
Speaker 4: I have to rotate them poppers, them Hoolapango poppers.
Speaker 1: Well, there's one thing I know about you. You know
Speaker 1: how to rotate some beef. Yes, baby, So that answers
Speaker 1: my question of where you've been, Tim, Where have you been?
Speaker 1: I haven't talked to you since we've been on podcasts.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we DM every once in a while.
Speaker 1: But are you not in La? Where are you?
Speaker 3: I'm in a beautiful place. I'm in a beautiful city
Speaker 3: called Sandusky, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Which okay. You know a movie that I did a
Speaker 1: two time watch is the movie Swan Song.
Speaker 3: Honey two Times then you saw Me twice.
Speaker 1: I love this film. If anyone's not seen it, it's
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 3: It's wait, I love that you love it. I am
Speaker 3: literally in that movie for two seconds. But I had
Speaker 3: a big part in like trying to help make it
Speaker 3: happen because I've been a fan of the director. He's
Speaker 3: from my hometown, and he would like message me and
Speaker 3: be like deserve he kickstarted that whole movie. Wow, So
Speaker 3: I would like send the email around of people trying
Speaker 3: to like get raise money for it.
Speaker 1: It takes place in Sandusky and Tim makes an appearance,
Speaker 1: so people watch. I think it's on to be right now.
Speaker 1: I'm a two be queen. I'm constantly up in too
Speaker 1: O love. I love to me too. I do fear
Speaker 1: that we have not talked enough about ghosts yet, so
Speaker 1: I say we dive into some ghostliness.
Speaker 4: Please.
Speaker 1: Hey, Tim, what's this story when you went to a
Speaker 1: haunted hotel?
Speaker 3: Okay? So the last few times I've been on this pot,
Speaker 3: I think I told you ghosts don't care about me,
Speaker 3: and it really bothers me. I'm like, where are you?
Speaker 3: I'm very open to the idea of ghosts. And then
Speaker 3: finally I had an experience kind of I went to
Speaker 3: have you heard of mcminimon's hotel chain? No, it's okay.
Speaker 3: It's a Pacific Northwest thing apparently. I think they were
Speaker 3: a family of brothers maybe that came into some money,
Speaker 3: and they bought all these old buildings in Portland, and
Speaker 3: I think some in Seattle as well. Their whole thing
Speaker 3: is turning buildings that were not ever hotels into hostels,
Speaker 3: and they're like kind of cool hostels. So I stayed
Speaker 3: in one, and they're like, oh yeah, the whole thing
Speaker 3: with these are that they're haunted. At least the one
Speaker 3: I was in. The one like a few miles away
Speaker 3: I think was an old like school, so it's like
Speaker 3: you stay in this old school and that one's supposedly
Speaker 3: very haunted. The one I was in was a brothel.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, And there is a tunnel under the brothel
Speaker 3: that goes to the river in Portland where in you know,
Speaker 3: I think the twenties, thirties and forties, these unsavory characters
Speaker 3: would you know, pay for sex workers and then if
Speaker 3: they didn't want the sex workers to like be alive anymore,
Speaker 3: they would kill them and then take them through the
Speaker 3: tunnel underground and throw them in the river. And not
Speaker 3: just sex workers, but also like you know, like mobster
Speaker 3: type guys would like bring guys in there to like
Speaker 3: you know, quote unquote do drugs or whatever, and then they'd
Speaker 3: kill them and then take them through. So there was
Speaker 3: like many deaths in this MC minimums and you could,
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding, like feel it in the air, like
Speaker 3: the air was like and so then there's like a
Speaker 3: shared shower.
Speaker 1: Wait, what do you mean you could feel it before
Speaker 1: you knew all this. You're like, wait, it feels like
Speaker 1: there's been some brothel.
Speaker 4: You could feel and there's an old.
Speaker 3: I could feel ghosts I was.
Speaker 4: I was there decades.
Speaker 3: Ago, you know, Yeah, I could feel you in there me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the spirit of my old hole.
Speaker 1: Oh, Michael, the curly fries are burning. Okay, there's a
Speaker 1: line all the way down the block. You need to
Speaker 1: focus on one thing at a time.
Speaker 4: I'm on by fifteen.
Speaker 3: It would make sense that you could do this while
Speaker 3: working at Arby's because nobody freaking eats to Arby's. Come
Speaker 3: on now, sorry, you sponsored spons we bring like we're
Speaker 3: trying to get into the ghost business. Okay, So no,
Speaker 3: you could feel ghostliness and creepiness in the air, like
Speaker 3: the air was like thick with it. Because I think
Speaker 3: I told you last time I was on this pod,
Speaker 3: I lived in a basement apartment in New York City
Speaker 3: that everyone was like, Oh, this is so creepy. It
Speaker 3: must be haunted, and I was like, it's not. I
Speaker 3: really wanted to be, but it's not. This was haunted.
Speaker 3: I went to use the shared shower and when I
Speaker 3: was in there, I had like propped the door open.
Speaker 3: There was like two doors, like the door to go
Speaker 3: into the bathroom and then the door to the shower,
Speaker 3: and I kept the door popped open because I was like,
Speaker 3: honestly so scared and it boom shot closes without me
Speaker 3: touching it. So scary.
Speaker 1: My god.
Speaker 4: So you think that was an old sex worker? M hm, oh,
Speaker 4: get out of here.
Speaker 1: I mean it very well could be.
Speaker 3: M I really think if you look it up, it's
Speaker 3: very fascinating. There's like there's a bunch of them. I
Speaker 3: think one of them was a church maybe, but the
Speaker 3: whole thing is really giving spooky, scary.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 3: And then I was eating in the restaurant downstairs and
Speaker 3: I was on my computer and like a Karen walked
Speaker 3: in and was like, Hey, are you just gonna keep
Speaker 3: sitting there or are you gonna take our order? And I
Speaker 3: was like, I don't work here, I'm a patron.
Speaker 1: She said that to you.
Speaker 3: To me, I was like saying on my computer, She's like,
Speaker 3: you're just gonna keep sitting on your computer? Are you
Speaker 3: gonna take our order? And I was like, oh, my god,
Speaker 3: maybe she thinks I'm a sex worker and she's trying.
Speaker 4: To her car. You're gonna eat my ass.
Speaker 1: Here's a twenty speaking of sitting on things. I did
Speaker 1: some research and I would like to share with you
Speaker 1: and we'll just talk about it. I think this is
Speaker 1: an interesting angle we have not explored a whole lot
Speaker 1: on this podcast. The topic today is haunted chairs. Hey,
Speaker 1: you're sitting on me. Oh that's what I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: this segment. I'm actually I got to give a shout
Speaker 1: out to this blog. It's really good. It's called Notebook
Speaker 1: of Ghosts dot com and uh, the person who runs it,
Speaker 1: I believe it is, Ashley Watson, does some great research
Speaker 1: and does wonderful blog entries about different topics. This one's
Speaker 1: all about haunted chairs. I did go a little bit
Speaker 1: deeper on this one, iconic haunted chair. So let's just
Speaker 1: go through a couple of these. The first one I
Speaker 1: did a little research about is Thomas Bussy stoop chairs.
Speaker 1: Thomas Thomas Roay, Thmas but Buzzby's stoop chair. Okay, not
Speaker 1: Thomas Bussy Bussy, Thomas Busby stoop chair Okay. This This chair,
Speaker 1: also known as dead Man's Chair, is a cursed wooden
Speaker 1: chair in the UK, and currently it's on display at
Speaker 1: a place called the Thirsk Museum in North Yorkshire. They
Speaker 1: have to hang it from the ceiling because basically anyone
Speaker 1: that sits uh, if they sit there busby on this chair,
Speaker 1: they will die.
Speaker 3: Okay, this is all sounding like a RuPaul's drag Race
Speaker 3: Wrap Mini Challenge, Thomas Youth chair. Uh huh the thirst
Speaker 3: and it's in the thirst.
Speaker 1: Museum is in the thirst. So if you're feeling extra Thirsky,
Speaker 1: put your bus be in that chair and you will
Speaker 1: that will be the end of you. So allegedly, people
Speaker 1: who sat in this chair, here's some of the resume
Speaker 1: of this chair. We're talking people have had brain tumors,
Speaker 1: fatal car accidents. Several soldiers during World War Two sat
Speaker 1: in it and then never returned. In eighteen ninety four,
Speaker 1: a chimney sweep and his which I mean iconic job
Speaker 1: I no.
Speaker 3: I was like, is this what Mary Poppins is actually about?
Speaker 1: This is what it's really about. So a chimney sweep
Speaker 1: and his friend sat in it while getting their drink on,
Speaker 1: and then the one friend robbed and murdered the other friend.
Speaker 1: So well, is that the chair's fault? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it is something that happened.
Speaker 4: I guess it's like who you surround yourself with. That's
Speaker 4: the bad luck, you know, not the bussy chair.
Speaker 1: Here's another case. A hitchhiker was run over after sitting
Speaker 1: and a builder sat in it. I believe it was
Speaker 1: at like a bar at the time. His builder friends
Speaker 1: were like a dairy to go sit in it. He
Speaker 1: does and fell off of a building right after. So
Speaker 1: here's like the history of it. It belonged to a
Speaker 1: man named Thomas Busby who in seventeen oh two killed
Speaker 1: his father in law. They ran a coin counterfeiting business
Speaker 1: and the two of them got into an argument and
Speaker 1: he killed him. So he was hung.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Michael was not listening until just now. He
Speaker 3: was on the phone with Arby's customer service.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4: That Roastby is gonna have to wait. This bussy's hung.
Speaker 4: So that's what's been sitting on this chair, haunting it,
Speaker 4: all that all that meat.
Speaker 3: I think people are just killing people for this hung
Speaker 3: hung bussy on the chair.
Speaker 1: We're talking about real serious stuff here. She was hanged.
Speaker 1: I suppose I should say, oh, that's different next to
Speaker 1: what later became the Busby stoop in and he haunted
Speaker 1: the entire in, they say, but really focused on the chair.
Speaker 1: Some say that he cursed the chair during his execution,
Speaker 1: and some say that when he uh that they caught
Speaker 1: him for his crime while he was drunk in the chair,
Speaker 1: and then he put a curse on it.
Speaker 4: Well, what did the chair have to do with it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. With the chain, it was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: anyone that says in that chair is going to get cursed,
Speaker 1: and they like, I think, I don't know something like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, to his credit, I have sat on some
Speaker 4: things before and cursed the day it ever touched me
Speaker 4: entered me, you know, not me.
Speaker 3: I only make good decisions with the things I said.
Speaker 4: On Oh We're interesting. You could have a curse bussy though,
Speaker 4: and not even know it. You just think it's normal
Speaker 4: to be you know.
Speaker 3: To what? To what, honey? To what? I would know
Speaker 3: if I had a cursed bussby, because the boys always
Speaker 3: come back for more, and if they'd come back for
Speaker 3: more looking like zombies, then I would know. Okay, I
Speaker 3: must have cursed them with my busby.
Speaker 4: I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: Michael. Can I do the double barbecue bake and burger
Speaker 1: with the meal.
Speaker 4: Please listen, I'm still on my fifteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you could just put that in.
Speaker 4: I'll put the order in and then we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: All right, let me tell you some other chairs. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now this is where I'm going to just go
Speaker 1: right into notebook of ghosts dot com. There's a haunted
Speaker 1: rocking chair, this one. I actually think we have talked
Speaker 1: about this on the podcast before. Are you familiar with
Speaker 1: Zach Baggins?
Speaker 3: What'd you call me?
Speaker 4: I don't know her.
Speaker 3: No, we don't know Zach.
Speaker 1: This podcast is like half of the time it's me
Speaker 1: teaching gay people about Zach Baggins. So he's like the
Speaker 1: biggest paranormal TV personality that there is. He's been hosting
Speaker 1: a show called Ghost Adventures for like forever, and then
Speaker 1: if you go to Vegas, he has a really popular attraction,
Speaker 1: which is the Haunted Museum. Okay, and so in this
Speaker 1: Haunted Museum there's like all these legedly cursed and haunted objects,
Speaker 1: but then there's also from what I hear, like just
Speaker 1: like lots of bloody things from like famous murderers stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Okay, So he got this chair known as
Speaker 1: the Devil's Rocking Chair, and the chair was used during
Speaker 1: the exorcism of David Glatzel by Lorraine Warren from The Conjuring.
Speaker 1: From The Conjuring not very Farmga, but the character she.
Speaker 4: Plays, I would thinking about Diane Warren, this songwriter, no
Speaker 4: very not the same person.
Speaker 3: She wrote that drag race rap song's Revenge Museum.
Speaker 1: So allegedly this is from the famous is it the
Speaker 1: third Conjuring movie, the one that's like the Devil made
Speaker 1: me do it? That's three yeah, okay, So during this exorcism,
Speaker 1: the demon allegedly left David's body and entered I believe
Speaker 1: it's Arnie Johnson who was Who's the guy that later
Speaker 1: killed his landlord? And then he said, I'm not guilty
Speaker 1: because I was possessed by a demon. But he was
Speaker 1: indeed convicted of first degree mountslaughter, so they did not
Speaker 1: take that defense. But it's like, was he hung Michael?
Speaker 4: I am if he's there's a through line.
Speaker 3: Ross, I'm so sorry, I'm so embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering where you found this person. Tim Arby's Army. Now,
Speaker 1: do you still have Jamocha shakes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, baby, we got Jamocha shakes and we're starting to share,
Speaker 4: and we just entered the shamrock.
Speaker 3: I'm really how much you know about the Arby's menu.
Speaker 1: I will be honest with you. I have pulled up
Speaker 1: the Arby's menu on my phone, just on my computer,
Speaker 1: just just for reference in case we need it, and
Speaker 1: it seems like we have needed it while I'm here.
Speaker 4: So have you ever had the Horsey Horsey sauce?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: That's I've had Horsey sauce. I'm very afraid of what
Speaker 1: you considered to be Horsey Horsey sauce.
Speaker 4: Harsey Horsey.
Speaker 1: I don't know that you should be back there because
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of special sauce you're conjuring.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm milking someone back there.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh god, that's one. We're gonna cut cut it.
Speaker 1: So let's get back to this haunted rocket chair. So anyway,
Speaker 1: zag Begans has it in his exhibit. According to Zagbaggins,
Speaker 1: six people have had the same disturbing, uncontrollable crying in
Speaker 1: a short time when the exhibit opened. Uh, one of
Speaker 1: them being a guest who collapsed directly above the Devil's
Speaker 1: rocking chair. He says that he had an intense response
Speaker 1: to the chair when it was in his house. His
Speaker 1: quote is, me and my friend felt an evil presence
Speaker 1: move between us as we were sitting down in my
Speaker 1: living room, which then caused my dog to growl. Then
Speaker 1: we became very affected. We began speaking strange things about
Speaker 1: God and Satan with my head down, and then my
Speaker 1: friend began to cry uncontrollably and literally ran out of
Speaker 1: my house. He brought this chair hours before Lorraine Warren died.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that has any you know whatever,
Speaker 1: for sixty seven thousand dollars a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, butt, I get your refund. Getting haunted
Speaker 3: by this chair making your friends cry for that much money, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, tim, I imagine your friends make you cry. One
Speaker 1: in particular has made.
Speaker 4: You cry after a couple after a couple of drinks. Please,
Speaker 4: I'll roast the hell out of you.
Speaker 1: You'll roast that beef.
Speaker 4: I'll roast.
Speaker 3: He's always trying to roast my beef. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's when I cry when he tries to roast my beef.
Speaker 1: No, how about the velvet chair of Wittenberg University.
Speaker 3: That's Ohio, Mama, that's Ohio.
Speaker 1: That's Ohio.
Speaker 3: Wittenberg. Baby, you better believe.
Speaker 1: Ohio is just filled with ghosts. But anyway, let's get
Speaker 1: back to haunted chairs. There's also lots of haunted chairs
Speaker 1: in cemeteries.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever seen a chair in
Speaker 4: a cemetery.
Speaker 3: I was just thinking that Michael Henry has been to
Speaker 3: a lot of them. He cruises them often.
Speaker 4: Honey, the best trade is behind a tombstone.
Speaker 3: You've been. You've been trying to hook up at every
Speaker 3: New Orleans cemetery since the moment I met you.
Speaker 4: I love New Orleans cemeteries.
Speaker 3: I do too.
Speaker 4: A lot of them are chained up. They don't let
Speaker 4: you in because they know people want to fucking them.
Speaker 1: They don't let you in.
Speaker 4: They don't be in.
Speaker 1: So there's Sokasadaga, Florida. It's like a psychic spiritualist community.
Speaker 1: So according to legend, if you place an open beer
Speaker 1: on this particular graveside bench, it'll empty in the morning.
Speaker 5: Oh what I guess. At the cemetery, there's a chair,
Speaker 5: and if you place an open beer on this particular
Speaker 5: grave side bench, it'll empty in the morning.
Speaker 3: So a grave digger will come and drink it. Someone
Speaker 3: who works at the cemetery, or is passing through is
Speaker 3: going to drink that open beer. Mama, can't be in Florida.
Speaker 3: No offense. No offense, especially in.
Speaker 1: Florida, can't be proven.
Speaker 4: They should just put a ring cam on the closest
Speaker 4: tomb show.
Speaker 1: I mean, that would be fun if you did see
Speaker 1: a ghost drinking the beer.
Speaker 4: You what would you do if you saw a ghost
Speaker 4: drink the rest of your PBR? It would be great,
Speaker 4: like because then I could be like, see, I told you,
Speaker 4: I told you I wasn't drinking all that.
Speaker 3: I would be responsible about it and get that ghost
Speaker 3: some help.
Speaker 4: Oh you said that ghost to rehab.
Speaker 3: I would get that ghost into ghost aa.
Speaker 1: Mama, do an intervention and.
Speaker 3: Say you don't need to be drinking people's left over
Speaker 3: warm ipa.
Speaker 1: Oh that's dark okay. In Bristol, Pennsylvania, at the Saint
Speaker 1: James Episcopal Cemetery sits a wrought iron chair that's called
Speaker 1: the Witch's chair. If you sit in the chair at
Speaker 1: midnight during October, you will find yourself in the embrace
Speaker 1: of a ghostly witch. Some witnesses have even seen a
Speaker 1: woman sitting in the.
Speaker 3: Chair that I love that I want go to that
Speaker 3: sounds cool.
Speaker 1: Now. Was it a ghost woman or was it just
Speaker 1: a woman that was just sitting there getting that ghostly embrace?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but interesting. Listen, I'm lonely. I have
Speaker 1: no problem during October Pennsylvania. I can pencil that in.
Speaker 1: Just to get embraced by a ghost I love.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say I love Pennsylvania in October.
Speaker 4: A Hello autumn and Philly Hello, leaves on the ground,
Speaker 4: and a Philly cheese steak in my mouth warm, and
Speaker 4: a ghost by my side. Oh, what's that? You want
Speaker 4: a number two?
Speaker 1: I think you think you did a number.
Speaker 4: Twok, honey, I'll give you a number two.
Speaker 1: Just to let me.
Speaker 4: Don't let me sit in that chair, that wicker chair.
Speaker 3: I never do let you sit in my chairs for
Speaker 3: that reason. M because they're always trying to number two.
Speaker 4: It's going to be super sized.
Speaker 1: This is when I'm picturing you working at the drive
Speaker 1: room where someone's like, yeah, can I get a number two? Oh?
Speaker 1: I bet you'd like a number two.
Speaker 3: This Michael's been fired from every job he's ever had.
Speaker 4: Literally literally every every part time job I've ever had
Speaker 4: have been fired. Sorry, I like to have fun.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, back to the podcast. In Kirksville, Missouri,
Speaker 1: there's a chair called the Beard Chair and it's also
Speaker 1: known as the Devil's Chair. Wait did we know we
Speaker 1: we had the Devil's rocking chair. H.
Speaker 3: The Devil's got a lot of chairs. He's got along
Speaker 3: line of chair businesses. He's like Ashley's Home Furniture. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the Devil's chairs.
Speaker 1: Now this is just the Devil's chair. And it's a
Speaker 1: marble memorial that was commissioned by a prominent businessman named
Speaker 1: William Bayard for his brother and sister in law. Williem
Speaker 1: is actually William will Now we're keeping willelm out of this. Uh.
Speaker 1: William is actually buried some other place, not at this place.
Speaker 1: But according to legend, if you sit in the chair
Speaker 1: at midnight, usually on Halloween, a hand will emerge from
Speaker 1: the grave and drag you down to hell.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that one seems more provable than the other.
Speaker 3: One seemed like kind of oh, I don't know what
Speaker 3: happened there. Did someone drink the beer? This is like
Speaker 3: at midnight and a hand doesn't drag you down to hell?
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is anyone. See Tim who was sitting here
Speaker 4: last and there's a big gaping hole ground down there?
Speaker 3: Are you not a big gaping a very small slender hole?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: Oh sure, ah, here's one more. The chair in pieces.
Speaker 1: It says that they found this story on a website
Speaker 1: called your ghost stories dot com, where a user explained
Speaker 1: that during a home renovation, they found a carved chair
Speaker 1: behind a wall, then a boarded up storage space. They
Speaker 1: found the seat's chair with two legs. They pulled weeds
Speaker 1: in the yard, and they found the other two legs
Speaker 1: with a bit of damage, I guess in the yard.
Speaker 1: The family put the chair together. Instantly, feeling uneasy by
Speaker 1: its presence, they took it apart. They put the pieces
Speaker 1: in a trash bag and left it in the garage
Speaker 1: for years. Eventually they moved and the chair came with them.
Speaker 1: The user felt a desire to assemble the chair, but
Speaker 1: warned everyone not to sit in it. One night, the
Speaker 1: user's husband sat in the chair. He seemed to go
Speaker 1: into a trance, and he was hospitalized that night due
Speaker 1: to an amnesia type of symptom. The user does not say,
Speaker 1: but he seems to be okay now. The chair now
Speaker 1: sits unbothered in the guest room. Sometimes a mysterious mist
Speaker 1: appears in photographs of the chair.
Speaker 3: Wow, WHOA, No one really took a turn for the neutral.
Speaker 3: He seems to be okay.
Speaker 4: Now, be all right. There just sometimes is a little
Speaker 4: bit of a fox.
Speaker 1: So he sat in it and then he had to
Speaker 1: go to the hospital because he felt like he had amnesia.
Speaker 3: And now he's fine.
Speaker 1: There is this trend on social media of now I
Speaker 1: don't want to make this racial, but it's always white
Speaker 1: people that find like walls in their house and dig
Speaker 1: into it and start finding old shit from like Victorian
Speaker 1: houses and stuff.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 1: I love watching it, and it sounds like that's what
Speaker 1: happened here, is like they just oh, this vent opened
Speaker 1: up and look at that there's chair pieces. But I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I guess that was a thing that people
Speaker 1: did back in the day. They're like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to throw this out. I'm just gonna hide this. I guess.
Speaker 3: So that's well. Part of me wonders if that has
Speaker 3: to do with because beautiful Sineski, Ohio is part of
Speaker 3: like prohibition era and the underground railroad, So then all
Speaker 3: the older houses here have like some secret rooms or
Speaker 3: like secret like places where it either like people were
Speaker 3: stashed to try to make it over the water to Canada,
Speaker 3: or like stashed alcohol and stuff like that, which is
Speaker 3: kind of cool. So maybe they just like had a
Speaker 3: little room like that where they were storing stuff and
Speaker 3: then they just forgot about it. You know.
Speaker 1: I think about every single time that I encounter on
Speaker 1: the internet or elsewhere, like, Okay, so tonight I'm doing
Speaker 1: one of my favorite local shows, which is at a
Speaker 1: sex shop. It's a stand up comedy show that's a
Speaker 1: pleasure chest in West Hollywood there. Yeah, it's so fun.
Speaker 1: It's called performance anxiety anyway. So anytime I see there's
Speaker 1: certain things in those stores, like like a big silicone
Speaker 1: butt or something like that, I think about what happens
Speaker 1: when you die and that's in your home you just
Speaker 1: have like a silicon But like, who do I want
Speaker 1: in my life to come into my home and find
Speaker 1: a full silicone boostby stoop?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, then you need to plan when you're gonna die.
Speaker 4: I guess you just.
Speaker 3: Have to have an emergency contact for your dirty stuff.
Speaker 3: You have to just know, like Mike Michael is the
Speaker 3: person who's going to go into my house before my
Speaker 3: parents get there, and clear out all the embarrassing things
Speaker 3: that are in there.
Speaker 4: I just hope that God gives me a sign. But
Speaker 4: you know, you got seven days, sweetie. This is it.
Speaker 4: See that's when like the ring is helpful. You know,
Speaker 4: you got seven days at.
Speaker 1: Least I can plan accordingly.
Speaker 4: I could clean house.
Speaker 1: But I wonder. I mean, those chair legs. I don't
Speaker 1: know why they ended up in the wall. I don't
Speaker 1: know why somebody felt the need to bury those chair legs,
Speaker 1: but they I don't want anyone to know about this,
Speaker 1: and I can't throw them in the trash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that does scream like maybe they killed someone with them.
Speaker 3: There's something, Oh yeah, a weapon that they did.
Speaker 4: I watched HGTV show where they found all these like
Speaker 4: wooded sticks. I think they might have been pencils in
Speaker 4: the fireplace wall area, and they're like, oh, they used
Speaker 4: them to like start the fire. So who knows, Maybe
Speaker 4: they just want to use those wood sticks to stoke
Speaker 4: the fire.
Speaker 1: It could be. I mean, the potato cake machine is
Speaker 1: heating up behind you. You might want to go take
Speaker 1: care of that.
Speaker 4: Oh God, I told I told cassa show to cover me. Cassie.
Speaker 1: You know, Cassie, hey can I tell you a haunted
Speaker 1: doll on eBay. It's time for Are the dolls are living? Okay?
Speaker 1: You guys have done this with me before. So I
Speaker 1: go to eBay dot com and I search for haunted
Speaker 1: dolls that are currently for sale.
Speaker 4: Have you ever bought one?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. But my manager did buy one for me
Speaker 1: that is currently in my hallway in a drawer, and
Speaker 1: uh not one single ghostly thing has happened.
Speaker 3: Is your manager hoping that that doll will kill you
Speaker 3: and then your podcast will really take off? Then?
Speaker 4: Yes, all your episodes will be like picassos. You know,
Speaker 4: they go up.
Speaker 3: From all your abar sets.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, they they they the fact that
Speaker 1: they can meet my rate every single time I do
Speaker 1: that free show at the local gay establishment acbar. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now these stills are not always gay, oh, but
Speaker 1: when the two of you are on, they are. Okay,
Speaker 1: It just it just happens that way. So I got
Speaker 1: a gay haunted doll for you, and I would like
Speaker 1: for you to meet Richard Jee has show was Richard?
Speaker 1: Please you got it?
Speaker 4: Ros?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh god? Okay. So Richard was a gay man who
Speaker 1: has inhabited a female doll and she is glamour. Honey,
Speaker 1: she really is.
Speaker 4: She lucked out, She's she's cute.
Speaker 3: This is a good doll to get if you're a
Speaker 3: gay man and you want to inhabit a gorgeous, gorgeous doll.
Speaker 3: The hair is like on point.
Speaker 1: The hair is beautiful, which is not usually the case
Speaker 1: for like an old doll that's just been passed around. Well,
Speaker 1: but the lashes are slashes or lash Yeah, they are unreal.
Speaker 1: They go up past the eyebrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's had work done. I think she has.
Speaker 3: The lips are very full.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and gorgeous tell gloss on yes, oh, or
Speaker 1: or they might have the gloss that Michael uses, which
Speaker 1: is just from the curly fry grease.
Speaker 4: If it works, it works, it doesn't work, Hey, honey,
Speaker 4: this is we brought you on here to tell you
Speaker 4: the gloss it work. You no know what?
Speaker 3: You have seven days to live?
Speaker 4: Hey, that's okay, you know.
Speaker 1: So Richard is going for sixty five British pounds, which
Speaker 1: is eighty three seventy seven American. So it says Mary Meat,
Speaker 1: I am listing Richard or Richie as he prefers to
Speaker 1: be called, at his strong request, as he wants to
Speaker 1: and this is an all caps live with a man
Speaker 1: who enjoys fashion, as this is what he enjoyed when
Speaker 1: he was last alive. Now let me point out that
Speaker 1: apparently they had already tried to sell this haunted doll
Speaker 1: and they were very like, oh yeah, he's super fun
Speaker 1: and like if you're a girl and you're putting on makeup, like,
Speaker 1: he loves when you do that. And apparently Richard has
Speaker 1: been like no, no, no, no, no to the person selling
Speaker 1: in this. I want to be with a gay man.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So that's what's happening here. It says that
Speaker 1: he used to go by Ritchie, so he does prefer
Speaker 1: that nickname as his friends would refer to him as such.
Speaker 1: I have had a psychic greeting done for him, so
Speaker 1: please only adopt him if you are gay, a gay
Speaker 1: man who enjoys fashion, as he is very specific where
Speaker 1: he wants to live. So unfortunately, neither of you. But
Speaker 1: oh wow, that's what they call shade and repulsed drag race.
Speaker 1: So reed, Richard emanates charm, charisma, confidence, and kindness.
Speaker 3: No, you can't have all four. No man has all four.
Speaker 3: No gay guy has kindness.
Speaker 1: First of all, he has told me that he has
Speaker 1: greatly enjoyed being a part of my life, but he's
Speaker 1: putting emphasis on working better with men, especially men who
Speaker 1: are handsome and have a unique fashion sense. I inquired
Speaker 1: about why he chose this vessel, aka why did he
Speaker 1: go into that doll? And he has made it a
Speaker 1: parent that he used to dress in drag fashion and
Speaker 1: that this vessel depicted what he would like to have
Speaker 1: looked like as a woman, or when he dressed up
Speaker 1: in drag for shows that he did well live, which
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's like the nuances of gender
Speaker 1: and whatever. I definitely know gay men that would choose
Speaker 1: a lady doll, and it doesn't necessarily mean like their
Speaker 1: trans or something. They're like, yeah, I just want to
Speaker 1: like look hunting pretty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would choose a lady doll for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't want to be like a Marionette Pinocchio.
Speaker 1: Well, that knows, you could have a lot of fun
Speaker 1: with honey.
Speaker 4: This is a haunted chair right here. You'll get amnesia
Speaker 4: after this.
Speaker 1: You're gonna wish you had it. So he's expressing that
Speaker 1: he wandered for a long time throughout the states and
Speaker 1: countryside after he passed, and that he was quite sad
Speaker 1: and he wanted to see the world. This vessel looks
Speaker 1: like it came to him when he was feeling especially
Speaker 1: longful for the life he once lived, so he decided
Speaker 1: to attach himself to this vessel in an antique store.
Speaker 1: He wasn't called upon. He is making it very clear
Speaker 1: that he chose this vessel himself because it represents how
Speaker 1: he viewed himself when he dressed in drug. I've asked
Speaker 1: him to describe what he looked like when he was alive.
Speaker 1: He's saying that he had dirty blonde hair and piercing
Speaker 1: blue eyes. His eyes were frequently complimented because the contrast
Speaker 1: was beautiful. He always felt like he was a very
Speaker 1: attractive man, and many individuals liked him and found him attractive,
Speaker 1: both men and women, but he was more into men
Speaker 1: than women. I mean, this is kind of the fun
Speaker 1: you can have when you're a ghost. You can be like, oh,
Speaker 1: so I was like the hottest guy and my dad, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 3: Was by and I'm like, this is the first time
Speaker 3: we've been catfished by a dead person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't even know.
Speaker 3: No, honey, you don't even know. I was.
Speaker 1: He says, I don't feel that his sexuality was approved
Speaker 1: when he was alive. It was more of a taboo topic,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately it resulted in him falling out with his family.
Speaker 1: So he ended up surroundered by loving friends, chosen family
Speaker 1: as we call it. He's remembered well. He's putting emphasis
Speaker 1: on the location of Los Angeles and having loved California
Speaker 1: when he was alive. I feel he felt at home there.
Speaker 1: So basically, a gay man in Los Angeles with good
Speaker 1: fashion sense is who he would love to be with. Also,
Speaker 1: he's a Gemini if anyone needs to know that, And
Speaker 1: so that's him. Can I play you some ghost voices?
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev plase. Okay, you guys
Speaker 1: have done this before. So I just go to YouTube
Speaker 1: or TikTok or wherever and I find us some EVPs
Speaker 1: electronic voice phenomena ghost speaking and I have got two
Speaker 1: of them for you today, both from the same account.
Speaker 1: They've got some great ones on there. I might have
Speaker 1: to use this account again because I really liked what
Speaker 1: the ghosts had to say to them. This account is
Speaker 1: called ghost Hunter nine two two three, and these are
Speaker 1: two EVPs, both from the Elms Hotel and Excelsior Springs, Missouri. Oh, Missouri.
Speaker 1: I'm actually about to be doing a show in Kansas
Speaker 1: City and Saint Louis. Hope to see you there. Rozernandez
Speaker 1: tour dot Com. Oh okay, this ghost is is saying
Speaker 1: what Michael and Tim he.
Speaker 3: Was saying, I want the number three.
Speaker 4: Oh I heard, fuck me.
Speaker 3: You always hear that, the listener. Go back to the
Speaker 3: our last two episodes. That's always what Michael hears. I
Speaker 3: heard I want the number three. Yeah, I want number three.
Speaker 4: Oh he's talking about Oh, he wants the number three.
Speaker 1: That's in your that's in your headset. That's different, that's
Speaker 1: not different.
Speaker 4: Than the Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wait, actually kind of sounds like help me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, did they think it was saying A, I'm
Speaker 1: a ghost, B the two see the toast or d nosis. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's one of those. Let me play it again.
Speaker 4: I'll say the toast.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say hesisjasis.
Speaker 4: It's Christmas.
Speaker 1: They believe it is saying the doe. Let me play
Speaker 1: it again, the doe. I don't know. All right. Uh,
Speaker 1: here's the next one, same location, the ELM's Hotel in
Speaker 1: Excelsior Springs, Missouri. What's this one saying? M hm. Okay,
Speaker 1: now I will say that one of the ghost hunters
Speaker 1: is doing that. Mmmmm, so that is a human. Okay,
Speaker 1: we need this first part.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like a weird it's like a beat box or something.
Speaker 1: Let me play it again.
Speaker 4: M hm, no clue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a I'm pissed that we
Speaker 1: will meet? Mmmmmm? Did they think it was B? The
Speaker 1: PASTA has beef? C why don't you stop me? Or
Speaker 1: d you taste like whole wheat?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say three.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say A. I'm pissed that we will meet.
Speaker 1: That is what they believe. It says, I'm pissed that
Speaker 1: we will meet. Okay, let's let's hear it now that
Speaker 1: we know that. Mm hmm. Maybe I don't know. Let
Speaker 1: me play a game.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's said I want
Speaker 1: my roast beef.
Speaker 4: Yes, I want my Now that's something that you get
Speaker 4: that I could get for you.
Speaker 1: Now, that's something I can help you with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if a ghost wants to reach out, reach out
Speaker 3: for something, I could actually do.
Speaker 4: Honey, you could order through DoorDash.
Speaker 1: So that's it.
Speaker 4: I love this, love it.
Speaker 1: What do you guys got going on? We gotta tell everyone.
Speaker 1: I love you too. You're so funny.
Speaker 3: We love you. We're so excited because our TV show
Speaker 3: is out I Wish You Were Queer. Yes, you can
Speaker 3: find it on out TV.
Speaker 4: Yes, our TV. Get the app, search it on Amazon,
Speaker 4: Wish You Were Queer?
Speaker 1: Baby?
Speaker 4: And I think the first episode will be up on YouTube.
Speaker 1: And what is the show.
Speaker 4: It's basically us in an r V going to different
Speaker 4: cities and doing stand up and interacting with locals and
Speaker 4: hoping that we can make people laugh and Tricksy Mittel,
Speaker 4: isn't it too?
Speaker 3: Yeah. The concept is that we ask Tricksy in the
Speaker 3: beginning to produce our stand up specials, and she's famous
Speaker 3: and rich, and she says, okay, you're la gay funny,
Speaker 3: but are you funny elsewhere? So she sends us to
Speaker 3: six different cities in six different states to do stand
Speaker 3: up to find out if gay people, specifically us, are
Speaker 3: funny there. And so there's a show in every at
Speaker 3: the end of every episode.
Speaker 1: So you guys had to hear six times that No,
Speaker 1: you'll have.
Speaker 3: To tune in and baby, Are you gonna give it away? Baby?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll give it away.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. It's amazing. Well, that's a great idea. I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 3: One day. It's really fun. We had like so much
Speaker 3: fun together. I mean, we've been on the road doing
Speaker 3: stand up together for so long. We always were like, God,
Speaker 3: there should be cameras on us, and now they're finally are,
Speaker 3: and it's really it's really My parents are in the
Speaker 3: first episode, they're so funny. Michael makes them go up
Speaker 3: to strangers and tell them about our gay comedy and
Speaker 3: ask them if they know about Sean Cody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I make his mother say c unt, he
Speaker 4: sure does.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well then we got to tune in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we eat hot dogs together.
Speaker 3: We do.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: You should.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to know what that means to you.
Speaker 4: You should. You should see Tim drive the RV.
Speaker 3: And I crash it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, driving an RV is so scary.
Speaker 3: It's so scary. Rise it was horrible. I literally, I'm
Speaker 3: not kidding. I crash it in the.
Speaker 1: Show Back to Me when I did a reality show
Speaker 1: and I had to drive an RV, terifying It's horrible, right,
Speaker 1: so scary While also being a passenger when like when
Speaker 1: the pa is drying, No, why I had I had
Speaker 1: straight up like, oh, a psychic's gonna give it a
Speaker 1: shot driving it, and uh yeah, it was just very
Speaker 1: scary anyway.
Speaker 4: You two, well, thank you, yeah.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Oh yeah, and find us on socials. I'm
Speaker 3: at Ta Murray zero six on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 4: And I'm Michael Henry nine one five baby baby.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: People love to ask me, is the nine one five
Speaker 4: are you from l Pastel, Texas? I say no, I'm not.
Speaker 4: That it's my birthday. I'm a virgo.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, it does seem like an area code.
Speaker 4: Why would I flaunt an area code?
Speaker 3: If you're from the four one nine in northern Ohio,
Speaker 3: you'd flaunt it, Mama.
Speaker 1: Oh god, that reminds me I would like that number nine,
Speaker 1: okay with no Horsey sauce.
Speaker 4: Okay, well you gotta you gotta come and pick it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will be right to pick it up.
Speaker 4: Ye all right, baby, this.
Speaker 3: Ry sauce giving them strap throat.
Speaker 4: Decenumber nine is hot and ready for you, covered in
Speaker 4: a horsey Horsey sauce.
Speaker 3: Hot and many.
Speaker 1: That's Little Caesars that's your other charge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have. I'm doing a double.
Speaker 3: She's working a double, Mama.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Tim Murray and Michael Henry.
Speaker 1: Make sure you go watch their TV show Wish You
Speaker 1: Were Queer on Out TV. But only do it if
Speaker 1: you like laughing a lot. I love you all, both
Speaker 1: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to
Speaker 1: haunt me, don't haunt me came back. This has been
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Speaker 1: sometimes I'll even call you, so email me at ghosted
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Speaker 1: is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming
Speaker 1: Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed by
Speaker 1: the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying
Speaker 1: Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by the Spine shilling,
Speaker 1: Brendan Lynch Salomon, artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac, Photography
Speaker 1: by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produce by the Chilling
Speaker 1: Karen Kilgareth, the Spooky Georgia Hard Start, and the Frightening
Speaker 1: Danielle Kramer. Listen to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez on the
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