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Speaker 1: Welcome back to episode twenty eight of Hurdle, a podcast

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Speaker 1: that talks to top CEOs and entrepreneurs about how they

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Speaker 1: got through tough times hurdles of sorts by leaning into wellness.

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Speaker 1: My name's Emily Body, and today I'm chatting with Robin Arzon,

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Speaker 1: badass marathoner and Peloton's vice president of fitness Programming and

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Speaker 1: head instructor. Before we get to that, a shout out

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Speaker 1: com slash Hurdle. Now let's talk about Robin and I've

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Speaker 1: got to throw this out there into the universe.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you have been.

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Speaker 1: Asking for this interview via email, so I am so

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Speaker 1: so happy that we can make it happen if you

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Speaker 1: follow along with her on Intae at robin NYC. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to imagine a time when regular exercise wasn't part

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Speaker 1: of her routine. After a life or death experience at

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Speaker 1: age twenty, when Arizon was held hostage at gunpoint in

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Speaker 1: the East Village, she leaned into movement and running for

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Speaker 1: the first time to help her process the trauma. Soon enough,

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Speaker 1: the then lawyer turned away from her conventional nine to

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Speaker 1: five in hopes to make her passion for sweat her career,

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Speaker 1: and that's when she found Peloton. If you don't know

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Speaker 1: about Peloton, I'll sum it up for you. It's essentially

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Speaker 1: live and on demand boutique studio Classes filmed that their

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Speaker 1: New York City studio is available anytime for users across

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Speaker 1: the country via the Peloton bike and.

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Speaker 2: The Peloton tread. And these pieces of.

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Speaker 1: Equipment are really, like, absolutely gorgeous, the best of the best.

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Speaker 2: The Cadillac if.

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Speaker 1: You will, complete with big, beautiful monitors to watch the

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Speaker 1: brand's top instructors get after it. They also offer their

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Speaker 1: Peloton Digital service, So maybe if you don't want to

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Speaker 1: splurge for the bike or the tread or just don't

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Speaker 1: have the room for that kind of thing at your home.

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Speaker 1: You can dream that content anywhere you want, at any

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Speaker 1: time you want. So anyway, Robin, She's come a long

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Speaker 1: way and today she's making a living doing what she loves.

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Speaker 1: She's also a published author with her twenty sixteen book

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Speaker 1: Shut Up and Run, and now has more than twenty

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Speaker 1: six marathons twenty six under her bell. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: this woman's story is loaded with crazy amounts of inspiration

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Speaker 1: that'll hopefully motivate you.

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Speaker 2: As she would say, to do quote epic shit.

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Speaker 1: As always, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, at Hurdle Podcast, keep on

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Speaker 1: tagging me with those Instagram stories.

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Speaker 2: I love connecting with.

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Speaker 1: You over there, and shoot me an email if you

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Speaker 1: have any questions or a hurdle moment of your own

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Speaker 1: to share over at Emily at Hurdle.

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Speaker 2: Dot us quick.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again to girl Boss and SmartWater for having

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Speaker 1: me at the rally this weekend. At an absolute blast

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Speaker 1: with last week's guest Kirstigato on stage talking about all

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Speaker 1: things mind, body connection, that room that vibe all of you,

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Speaker 1: you were alike and that's it. Let's get to hurdling

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Speaker 1: in the studio today with Robin Arson. She is the

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Speaker 1: best selling author of Shut Up and Run, also the

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Speaker 2: Hey Robin, what's up? What's up girl? Thanks for coming

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Speaker 2: in today.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the first thing we need to do

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Speaker 1: Robin's got on like the silver Doc Martins, a pretty

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Speaker 1: dope leather and like a sports bra, some shiny leggings.

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Speaker 2: This is regular for you, this kind of shick it is.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad at leisure is in fashion because that's the

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Speaker 3: only way I rock these days.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I mean it kind of has to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you.

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Speaker 2: This is a lifestyle and we live it, we live it,

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Speaker 1: So what I'd love to get into right from the

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Speaker 1: So give me a snippet of maybe, quote unquote, a

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Speaker 3: I love when other people answer these questions, and I'm

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Speaker 3: I would say it's at least two to three hours

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Speaker 3: two classes a day at peloton, tread and cycling.

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Speaker 2: My morning routine is really important.

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Speaker 3: I would say, like green smoothie and Macha are essentials

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Speaker 2: I would sleep. I would sleep till seven if I

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Speaker 1: So you're the kind of person that could, like work

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Speaker 1: out at nine o'clock at night one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I actually have my most effective lifting sessions are at night. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But then you're adrenaline is going and you're all screwed up.

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Speaker 1: the research says that getting active in the morning, like

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Speaker 1: just like rested for twelve hours, not twelve hours, but

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Speaker 2: I wish twelve hours.

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Speaker 3: I have days, you know, filled with workouts, press events,

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Speaker 3: peloton or not. And I'm the head instructor, so I

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Speaker 3: over twenty four hours of live content now with the tread.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. I mean, let's flash back for

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Speaker 2: You were on track to become a lawyer.

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Speaker 3: Well, my father was an attorney, and I always kind

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Speaker 3: I do as a writer. But back then, I thought, oh, man, law,

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Speaker 3: It's just the when you think of yourself as an

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Speaker 2: Twenty when this happened. I was twenty, and so who

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Speaker 3: I've talked about it before, but honestly, if that's what

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Speaker 3: I survived. Obviously everybody survived that situation, actually, but I

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Speaker 3: and be like, okay, am I a victim.

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Speaker 2: Or a hero of this story? Very long story short.

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Speaker 3: This man ended up taking about twenty people in the

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Speaker 3: then the second is like, well, you haven't even built

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Speaker 3: your wrings yet and you're about to jump off the

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Speaker 3: other one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So but that was the right choice because I was

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Speaker 3: forced situationally to kind of really think hard about what

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Speaker 3: my dream job would be. It'd be like, what kind

446
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Speaker 3: of partnerships and collaborations would be your dream job? And

447
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Speaker 3: on my vision board, I had that I wanted to

448
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Speaker 3: work with a modern company with like amazing hardware and

449
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Speaker 3: technology first, and literally a year later Peloton. You know,

450
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Speaker 3: I read about Pelton and John Polly, So this is like,

451
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Speaker 3: none of this is accidental, but I had to create.

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Speaker 3: I had to exercise right no in order for the

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Speaker 3: right yes to appear.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: things I want to jump into. First of all, I

457
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people struggle with this idea and

458
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Speaker 1: do I want to pursue my personal brand or do

459
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Speaker 1: I want to put my skill set into another brand.

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Speaker 1: You obviously felt super passionate about telling your story. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that was kind of the jumping off point.

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Speaker 2: Like that was why you knew you had to do it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I mean I think coming off the heels

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Speaker 3: of wrestling existentially honestly with like why am I here?

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Speaker 3: Why do I survive? This is having a gun to

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Speaker 3: my head? So I was still wrestling with that kind

467
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Speaker 3: of spiritual thing. And I started telling my story on

468
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Speaker 3: social media and people, you know, handfuls of the time

469
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Speaker 3: started paying attention on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook whatever,

470
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Speaker 3: and that community really felt like a community. Man. I

471
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Speaker 3: was like, wow, Like, there are people in this world

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Speaker 3: who who also want to show up to you know,

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Speaker 3: a race, wearing whatever they want to wear. And they

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Speaker 3: might have like lipstick or rings, or they might work

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Speaker 3: in a band, or they might be in fashion, and

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Speaker 3: there's still doing this thing and we can uncheck all

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Speaker 3: of these other ways that we've been siloed and come

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Speaker 3: together and creator a movement, right, And.

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Speaker 1: Did you know at the time that you could monetize

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Speaker 1: that girl. The day I stopped accepting free shoes, my

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Speaker 1: life changed. I said, no, my this meeting is now

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Speaker 1: now comes with a consultant fee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this pick your brain moment is no longer a

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Speaker 3: pick your brain moment. I will be invoicing you for

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Speaker 3: this talk, because then my ideas would be taken and

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Speaker 3: used for photo shooes and used for campaigns and use

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Speaker 3: for marketing pitches.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, nah, that's not how this is working.

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Speaker 3: So I had to snatch my power back in that moment,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people said no. A lot of

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Speaker 3: people said no, and I just had to accept that

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Speaker 3: and know that within time it would come.

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Speaker 1: Did you get did you ask other I guess maybe

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Speaker 1: people in similar positions or other consultants to get a

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Speaker 1: better idea of like what you should be charging for

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff?

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Speaker 2: Completely made, completely made it up.

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Speaker 1: I love hearing that and me laugh because I sat

499
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Speaker 1: down Aiden Slater from Press Juicery was on the podcast

500
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Speaker 1: and he was on a phone call and he tells

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Speaker 1: me that the web developer is like, so, how much

502
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Speaker 1: is the juice? And he's like, one second, let me

503
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Speaker 1: check my notes and he puts the mute button on.

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Speaker 1: He looks to his co founder. He's like, how much

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Speaker 1: is the juice? He's like, maybe seven to fifty. He

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Speaker 1: goes that sounds too expensive. He's like, how about five dollars?

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Speaker 1: She goes, no, they're like six fifty sounds good. It's

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Speaker 1: six fifty And like, I feel like that's such a

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Speaker 1: common theme with with young entrepreneurs, or I mean old

510
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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs are entrepreneurs in general. It's like when you start

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Speaker 1: understanding what your true worth is, that's when people are

512
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Speaker 1: gonna offer you your true worth. When you're gonna when

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Speaker 1: you're gonna speak up and say it, and sometimes you

514
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Speaker 1: know you're gonna have to be okay with being told no.

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Speaker 1: But those aren't the people that you want to mess

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Speaker 1: with anyway, exactly. Oh, curate, curate the collaborations that you

517
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Speaker 1: want to work with. Don't just say yes any old

518
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Speaker 1: client who comes to the door or any old person

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Speaker 1: who's willing to sign a check for you, Like that

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Speaker 1: could be like I really believe the energy is is

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Speaker 1: frequency right, and I really give energy and with Pelton

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Speaker 1: collaboratively like sell my energy on the bike and content

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Speaker 1: in classes and in instruction, and that needs to be

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Speaker 1: in order for it to feel real.

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Speaker 2: Got to You've gotta find the right partners, you got it.

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Speaker 3: It's just like a radio frequency, like not that that

527
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Speaker 3: that radio frequency doesn't rock with me.

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Speaker 2: I gotta keep it moving. And there's no shame in

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Speaker 2: saying no.

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Speaker 3: It's very very good opportunities that other people would be like,

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Speaker 3: how could.

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Speaker 2: You not take that? No, I don't know. That wasn't

533
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Speaker 2: my vibe.

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Speaker 1: here sitting with Robin Arzon. What I would love to

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Speaker 1: hear about is now you getting started with Peloton. So

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Speaker 1: you also you mentioned that you have this vision board

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Speaker 1: something else I want to talk about. Lets talk about

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Speaker 1: your vision board before you even get to Peloton. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people talk about having a vision board and

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Speaker 1: it feels so daunting to create it.

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Speaker 2: How long have you had it? What's on it? What

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Speaker 2: was on it?

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Speaker 1: Then?

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Speaker 2: What's on it now? Talk about this? This is actually

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Speaker 2: this conversation is inspiring me to to do a new one.

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Speaker 3: But the vision boards that I had when I was

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Speaker 3: really having that post agency, pre any other any other

563
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Speaker 3: income coming in moment, was really just like I needed

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Speaker 3: to see, not just think about or talk about.

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Speaker 2: I needed to physically see on paper.

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Speaker 3: This might be also the analytical lawyer in me a plan,

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Speaker 3: And so I just went through magazines and kind of

568
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Speaker 3: pulled out whatever jumped out at me and then specific

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Speaker 3: things like, for example, like I loved how modern and

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Speaker 3: sleep Apple products looked, so I literally just put up

571
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Speaker 3: like the Apple logo, like little things like that, like

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Speaker 3: what kind of brand partnerships would make me feel proud?

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Speaker 3: Like what kind of like Oprah's obviously on there? Still,

574
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Speaker 3: hey girl, you know, Beyonce is on there, like people

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Speaker 3: who I admire and respect, people I want to work with. Words,

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Speaker 3: words that I feel like are my brand values. It

577
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Speaker 3: really is just like the visual conversation and then it up.

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Speaker 3: And of course you can do this digitally, but for me,

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Speaker 3: the tactile feeling of like writing things out and and

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Speaker 3: cutting things out was very cathartic for me. I really

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Speaker 3: do believe I manifested things that I have in my

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Speaker 3: life now because I was able to fine tune, you know,

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Speaker 3: speaking of radio frequency, like that was fine tuning my

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Speaker 3: antenna so people could find me.

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Speaker 2: I know, and I mean and shut up and run.

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Speaker 1: One of your tips for getting out the door is

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Speaker 1: surround yourself with inspiration. So you're saying that this is

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Speaker 1: how you surround yourself with inspiration on a regular basis.

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Speaker 3: I still do my alarm clock, says do epic shit, my,

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Speaker 3: I have post its on my mirror.

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Speaker 2: I've got I mean, I am covered, I am wearing.

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Speaker 3: If I could wear, you know, inspiration like a cloak,

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Speaker 3: I would because I believe that that that.

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Speaker 2: Keeps that keeps my intentions pure.

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Speaker 1: So Peloton, how does it happen?

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Speaker 2: Happen? Is like how does it happen? Like how do

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Speaker 2: you like?

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Speaker 1: One day you're just like on the street, You're wearing

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Speaker 1: like some Doc Martins, and someone's like, I think you

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Speaker 1: should probably get on a bike.

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Speaker 3: So I I read about John Foley and I thought

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Speaker 3: this company is about And this was like when John

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Speaker 3: Foley's articles were a blurb, not you know, front page right, So,

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Speaker 3: but you know the company, the company was formed and

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Speaker 3: they definitely had some money and they were going to

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Speaker 3: be opening up the New York City studio. And I

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Speaker 3: emailed him directly and I was like, hmmm, pretty sure

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Speaker 3: our visions are aligned.

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Speaker 2: Let me work for you. What were you doing at

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Speaker 2: this point?

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Speaker 3: At this point, I was teaching at a very small

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Speaker 3: studio in Union Square called Revolve, and I was writing,

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Speaker 3: you know, I was just writing like blog content and

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Speaker 3: pitching articles that nobody ever read and you know, just

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Speaker 3: rarely trying to like hustle his journalists and for the

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Speaker 3: and of course running a ton and running coaching, but

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Speaker 3: that never really made any money. You know, it was

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Speaker 3: just more like I had I had passions, but if

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Speaker 3: you're not getting paid, it's not a job. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I was really in this wrestling with like, how the

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Speaker 3: hell am I going to make this work?

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Speaker 2: I know what I love and I don't know how

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Speaker 2: to get paid for it yet.

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Speaker 3: And the consultancies were great, but they were not consistent,

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Speaker 3: so you know, it was it was how how do

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Speaker 3: I really like have an income stream that makes it?

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Speaker 3: And things kind of hit all at the same time.

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Speaker 3: I started getting like modeling gigs, I got an agent

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Speaker 3: at WMA. You know, Peloton happened, and like it was

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Speaker 3: all the seeds I had planted for about a decade

631
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Speaker 3: were finally sprouting. So you know, you got to plan

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Speaker 3: all those seeds, even if you don't know what's going

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Speaker 3: to come from it. Because literally people aren't calling me.

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Speaker 3: Now who I met in London? Who didn't you know,

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Speaker 3: they were very nice, but they didn't know who I was.

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Speaker 3: And now now I'm getting the phone calls.

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Speaker 1: So what happened after He's on the email, and also

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Speaker 1: like how many times did you read the email before

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Speaker 1: you sent it? Because sometimes I do like a twelve,

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Speaker 1: like a cycle of twelve, and then.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this is good to go forgot you know,

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Speaker 2: I think I.

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Speaker 3: Remember being so sure that this was the right marriage

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Speaker 3: of sorts, you know, Pelton, myself in Pelton that I

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Speaker 3: just sent.

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Speaker 2: I was brazen.

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Speaker 3: I was just like, this is my these these are

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Speaker 3: my people, or at least this is my vision. Like wow,

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Speaker 3: like on a global scale, I can be involved in

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Speaker 3: the technology company that produces fitness.

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Speaker 2: This is amazing. So yeah, it happened pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: I emailed John Pollie and I was in the office

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Speaker 3: what we used to call the closet.

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Speaker 2: Where we produce.

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Speaker 3: We produce our very first cycling episodes. Within five days,

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Speaker 3: I was the third instructor hired.

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Speaker 1: Wow, and you are hired within five days. Like it

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Speaker 1: was like, hey, nice to meet you. Let's do this, yes, wow,

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Speaker 1: yeah it pinch me moment.

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Speaker 2: Pinch me, yeah for sure.

661
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Speaker 3: But also it was still it was very scrappy, so

662
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Speaker 3: it wasn't like walking into this glossy thing and I

663
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Speaker 3: felt everyone anyone who's who's still the company who was

664
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Speaker 3: with us then believed and still believes. And I was

665
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Speaker 3: literally just telling John this morning when we were at

666
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Speaker 3: the Trede Experiential event.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, not only.

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Speaker 3: Do we like drink the kool Aid, we like we're

669
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Speaker 3: making the kool aid. Like we believe in this stuff.

670
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Speaker 3: And I do believe that Pealtine is going to be

671
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Speaker 3: the greatest fitness brand in the world.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So at that time, we're like so far away from

674
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: where the brand is now. So what I would love

675
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: for you to do, just for people that might not

676
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Speaker 1: be familiar with the Peloton brand, is talk a little

677
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Speaker 1: bit about what the Peloton brand used to offer and

678
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Speaker 1: what they've added to the brand since. So when you

679
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: signed on, it was cycling.

680
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: Yes, so it's a cycling So we sell hardware, which.

681
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: Is a bike equipped with a beautiful screen that streams

682
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Speaker 3: live and on demand classes from our New York City

683
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Speaker 3: studio fourteen hours a day of live programming and tunnel

684
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: to gosh ten thousand plus classes on demand of Spin

685
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Speaker 3: of Spin classes. And we've now since launched our tread

686
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Speaker 3: which has boot camp classes running only classes a combination

687
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Speaker 3: of the two, and we have floor, we have stretching.

688
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: We have warm Upe, we have cool Down, we have Yoga,

689
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: we have it's a one step shop at this point.

690
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Speaker 3: And on digital, Peloton Digital also launched and now with

691
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Speaker 3: the Peloton app, our members can access that content from anywhere.

692
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Speaker 1: And so can you have just a Peloton Digital membership

693
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Speaker 1: without owning any of the Peloton equipment.

694
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and a lot of a lot of It's it's

695
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: cool for now, Like people who do not have either

696
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Speaker 3: the financial means or access to a bike or a tread,

697
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Speaker 3: they can still work out with me around the world.

698
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Speaker 3: And I'm I'm happy that that digital family is being

699
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Speaker 3: built because that's that's access. You can just jump on

700
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Speaker 3: the app and you don't you don't ever have to

701
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Speaker 3: buy the hardware.

702
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Speaker 2: Although we'd love you too. I'm sure. I'm sure.

703
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Speaker 1: So when you started, like, did you have any concept

704
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: of exactly like how big that this brand was going

705
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: to grow? I mean, you knew obviously that eventually you

706
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: would be in homes quote unquote around the country, But

707
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Speaker 1: did you anticipate this?

708
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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, yes I did.

709
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Speaker 3: Because I'm a dreamer and a hustler, and this company

710
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 3: is comprised of dreamers who are willing to work their

711
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Speaker 3: asses off, So I knew not in the ways. You know,

712
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Speaker 3: you never know the past. The path to success is

713
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: absolutely circuitous. But you know, if you're climbing a mountain,

714
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: you'll get up to that mountaintop. And the analogy I

715
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Speaker 3: use is that we are we're building, We're literally building

716
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Speaker 3: the path to the Emerald City as we're walking to

717
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Speaker 3: the Emerald City, and.

718
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Speaker 2: Then people join us.

719
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Speaker 3: And truly, like that Wizard of Oz analogy is like

720
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Speaker 3: I'm building the yellow brick Road, and I'm okay with that.

721
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Speaker 3: I'm okay with building the yellow brick road because my

722
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Speaker 3: we are getting there. So yeah, I did believe that

723
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Speaker 3: we would get to this point, and I believe we're gonna.

724
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Speaker 2: Get far, far, further, far further.

725
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Speaker 1: Can you remember some of those early interactions you had

726
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Speaker 1: with at home writers and for people that are following along,

727
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Speaker 1: obviously to know is that there is the New York

728
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Speaker 1: City Studio on twenty third Street for the bike and

729
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Speaker 1: then the Tread Studio which is down in the West

730
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Speaker 1: Village technically the West Village yep, chryst Okay, So there's

731
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Speaker 1: the Tread Studio in the West Village, and so there

732
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Speaker 1: are writers and runners in the studio, but then there

733
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Speaker 1: are also the people at home. It's probably a lot

734
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Speaker 1: to handle, like handling and managing that class by making

735
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Speaker 1: sure that you feel like no one's neglected at home.

736
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Speaker 2: Was that did that take you a little while to

737
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Speaker 2: kind of figure out like how to balance the two

738
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Speaker 2: of them?

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Speaker 3: I mean absolutely, I would probably cringe if if I

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Speaker 3: saw footage by very first classes. I mean, we were

741
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Speaker 3: all evolving if we If we didn't, we wouldn't be

742
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Speaker 3: where we are. Teaching at Peloton is truly the hardest

743
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Speaker 3: job of instruction within the fitness industry period and that's

744
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: why it's a very small bulls eye. And recruiting our

745
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Speaker 3: team and I really feel like we recruit, we're recruiting

746
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Speaker 3: like a team of the Avengers or like superheroes, you know,

747
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Speaker 3: where each person is kind of bringing their own flavor

748
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Speaker 3: and their own point of view and then their own

749
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Speaker 3: training style and esthetic conversation and musical stylings. And that

750
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Speaker 3: I'm very, very proud of that because it's super hard

751
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Speaker 3: to find people who can negotiate not only the fitness

752
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Speaker 3: credibility and authenticity, but look amazing doing and working out

753
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: the entire time that we walk the walk, we run

754
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Speaker 3: the run, we cycle, we bike the bike. You know,

755
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Speaker 3: it's it's real what we're doing up there, but it's

756
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Speaker 3: what's even more real are the relationships that we have

757
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Speaker 3: with our members, you know, hundreds of thousands around world.

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Speaker 1: You said something that I think is really interesting in

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Speaker 1: the like we look great doing it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's stressful.

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Speaker 1: As someone who was for a long time and instructor

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Speaker 1: herself and kind of took a step back recently, I

763
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Speaker 1: was stressed out a little bit, feeling like I maybe

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Speaker 1: had to look a certain way or wanted to present

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Speaker 1: myself in a certain way for the people that were

766
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Speaker 1: coming to take my class.

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Speaker 2: Does that ever weigh on you when you're up there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I would be lying if I

769
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Speaker 3: didn't have a constant awareness of the visual conversation I

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Speaker 3: am having with the world. I mean when you are

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Speaker 3: in and I think honestly a lot of people are

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Speaker 3: feeling this simply just because you always have a camera

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Speaker 3: in your face, whether you're literally in front of five

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Speaker 3: cameras like you are at Pelton, or whether it's just

775
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Speaker 3: your iPhone or your cell phone or your camera or

776
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: you know, your your computer, I wrestle with that too.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody does. And I'm happy that you bring

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Speaker 3: that up, because it's tough. I want to be honest

779
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: with people who then will go to my Instagram and

780
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 3: be like, comment, how do I get those abs?

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Speaker 2: How do I get that?

782
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 3: And say, I work out four hours a day and

783
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: my job is literally to be healthy and.

784
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Speaker 2: Lead by example.

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Speaker 3: I don't expect everyone to have the same results if

786
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Speaker 3: they're not putting in the same amount of time. That's

787
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Speaker 3: important for people to understand is that we can unlock

788
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Speaker 3: potential in you, but you can't expect the same results

789
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Speaker 3: as someone who's literally just putting in their entire life's

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Speaker 3: work into this.

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Speaker 2: How do you keep that mental conversation healthy?

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Speaker 1: And I guess also I mean, like wall working out

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Speaker 1: four hours a day, like keeping like a reasonable expectation

794
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Speaker 1: of what your performance should be because recovery has to

795
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Speaker 1: be a big piece of this.

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Speaker 2: So I guess there's two questions here.

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Speaker 1: The first part is how do you keep the mental

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Speaker 1: dialogue and like, maybe body positivity a part of your

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Speaker 1: whole stick here, because it's got to be a big

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Speaker 1: part of the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Well, thankfully there's been such it's been so buzzy.

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00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: Like thankfully that conversation has been buzzy at the time

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Speaker 3: when I selfishly have needed it, you know. So I

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Speaker 3: look at p people who I really admire, like Shane.

805
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 3: We were just talking about Shane Alexander, you know, like

806
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: people like that, like people who I get to work

807
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: with on the Adidas Women and Creator Network, who are

808
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: just standing in their power in whatever like way that

809
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: means and whatever shape, size story that unfolds. And it's

810
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 3: important for me to see examples of that because we

811
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Speaker 3: all have that little inner hater and it's so loud.

812
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: But thankfully, my biggest way to exercise that muscle of

813
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 3: willpower and discipline and self love has always been movement.

814
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 3: So I usually I can quiet it by joining a

815
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 3: class or having a run, where that's my reset button.

816
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: So when I'm running, I'm not thinking about how I'm looking.

817
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: When I'm running, I'm feeling the run, right, So when

818
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm lifting, I'm thinking, gosh, I'm so strong.

819
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Speaker 2: I don't care how big my thighs are.

820
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Speaker 3: They are powerful, and so that that really really helps.

821
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Speaker 2: That's my tool for sure.

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Speaker 1: An interesting thought that I've been having a lot lately

823
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Speaker 1: as we are the people that talk to ourselves the

824
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Speaker 1: most every single day. So like, would I talk to

825
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Speaker 1: you the way that I talk to myself? Like sometimes yeah,

826
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Speaker 1: but sometimes no, Like I wouldn't say like what the

827
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Speaker 1: hell are you wearing right now?

828
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: Or what? Like I would never say that to someone else.

829
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

830
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I tell people, you know, when they ask what's

831
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Speaker 3: your biggest race day what's your biggest piece of race

832
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: day advice?

833
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: I say, talk to yourself like you would have loved one.

834
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Speaker 3: I asked somebody in class the other day or asked

835
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Speaker 3: the members if your inner thoughts were on a loud

836
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Speaker 3: speaker right now, would you be proud of them? That

837
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: ability to coach yourself is so important, and I think

838
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Speaker 3: especially when you have young young eyes and young ears

839
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Speaker 3: paying attention, Like parents really need to pay attention what

840
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Speaker 3: they're saying to the saying out loud about themselves when

841
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: their kids are watching. Thankfully, my mother and father showed

842
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: such amazing examples of strength and confidence and resilience growing

843
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: up that that has been a through line throughout my

844
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: entire life. But like, we can really be leading examples

845
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Speaker 3: of positivity, and it all starts with the voice in our.

846
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Speaker 2: Head for sure.

847
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: So what is your go to piece of advice for

848
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: someone who's ready to get started but doesn't even know

849
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Speaker 1: how to begin.

850
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: I would say two things. No goal is too small.

851
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: We tend to hear or perceive overnight success stories like

852
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: the person who lost three hundred pounds or like there's amazing,

853
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: and it's like amazing, They're incredibly inspiring, But it's daunting

854
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 3: to look at someone who's already who started their race

855
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: at a different start line and now you're looking at

856
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: their finish line and you're.

857
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: Thinking, damn, how do I do that?

858
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: Right? So I would say no goal was too small.

859
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: I think keeping keeping goals like specific and measurable. You

860
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: know that acronym smart, specific, measurable, attainable, realistic, and time bound.

861
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 3: That that is essential And honestly, that is how I

862
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: live my life.

863
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: Like it's not just I'll have like weekly.

864
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 3: Goals, monthly goals, six month goals, five year goals, and that.

865
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Speaker 2: That makes it more palatable and digestible. So start with

866
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Speaker 2: one small thing.

867
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Speaker 3: You don't have to do an overhaul of your entire

868
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Speaker 3: fridge and your schedule and your sleep time. And it's like,

869
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Speaker 3: start with one thing, maybe tomorrow. You just go to

870
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Speaker 3: bed a little earlier and then you do that in

871
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Speaker 3: the next day. You know, like unpacked, how to set

872
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: yourself up for success. We are so so tough on

873
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Speaker 3: ourselves specific to running, and I would I would say,

874
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Speaker 3: go out in minutes, not miles. Don't worry about like

875
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Speaker 3: all the technology. Just get a pay of running shoes

876
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Speaker 3: and a sports bra and like, go for ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: You got this girl, people. That's why I wrote my book.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to demystify the entire running experience. It's like,

879
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Speaker 3: you can just shut up and run, just go do it.

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Speaker 3: Not to say it is intimidating. I do get that,

881
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Speaker 3: and I was intimidated at first as well. But if

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Speaker 3: you lace up for five and then ten and then

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Speaker 3: fifteen minutes, your.

884
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Speaker 2: Life will change. You get that. I hear that. I

885
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Speaker 2: totally hear that. I definitely do.

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Speaker 1: I think the sheer act of starting is what prevents

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Speaker 1: so many people from doing it in the first place.

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Speaker 2: But you realize it's like a band aid.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's a run, or it's asking for a meeting,

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Speaker 1: or it's sending that email to John Foley, or whatever

891
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Speaker 1: the case may be, it's today, I'm going to rip

892
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Speaker 1: off the band aid, Yeah, and then look at all

893
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Speaker 1: the other band aids you're able to rip off everywhere

894
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Speaker 1: else in your life, and you'll see that It's it's magical, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: truly magical.

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Speaker 3: They're paralyzed by fear, and I always I think you

897
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: have to act it out, not figure it out.

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Speaker 2: All the time. There are only somebody lists in books

899
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Speaker 2: and podcasts, and like.

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Speaker 3: Let's not just do it, just go and do the thing,

901
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: because there is only so much planning before action just

902
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: has to take over.

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Speaker 1: I've got to ask you, then, so what is one

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Speaker 1: of the goals on like maybe your month list?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm trying to stay really committed to one

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Speaker 3: day completely off a week.

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Speaker 1: I love that goal. I think it's really hard. I

908
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Speaker 1: think it's kind of intimidating. In the wellness industry, especially

909
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: in New York City, it's like we all offer this

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00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: advice for people like not to overtrain, and now, especially

911
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Speaker 1: as recovery is becoming more and more buzzy, we're like,

912
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Speaker 1: you've got to recover, You've got a fair gun, you've

913
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Speaker 1: got a phone, rallh blah blah blah. But it's like

914
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Speaker 1: I'm watching you on Instagram and You're on our four

915
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Speaker 1: of your workout and I'm like, practice what you preach?

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Speaker 2: Women? Like when do you do it?

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Speaker 3: And I you know my name. My rhetoric is often

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Speaker 3: like just go and more and hustle, and I believe

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Speaker 3: that and I live that. But more is not always more,

920
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Speaker 3: and I'll take and you know, and you know with

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Speaker 3: the long runs for marathons and all this stuff. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not complaining, but it's like, I definitely overtrained. I

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Speaker 3: would not advise people to do necessarily when I do well.

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Speaker 3: This is my job and I love it. But there

925
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Speaker 3: are days when I'm like, ough, do I do what's

926
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Speaker 3: in my training schedule? Or do I actually sleep and rest?

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Speaker 3: Because I know that's the advice I would get to

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Speaker 3: somebody else. So I'm trying to create very strict guardrails

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Speaker 3: around my sundays.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

931
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Speaker 3: Hang out with my fiancee? Like planning my wedding, you know,

932
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Speaker 3: just like little breathing.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I find that i can talk about wellness and ease

935
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Speaker 3: and all these things, but I'm not necessarily always feeling that.

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Speaker 3: So I know how to tune into the conversation verbally,

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Speaker 3: but how the hell am I feeling physically? No, I'm

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Speaker 3: probably like literally physically running from here to a spin class,

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Speaker 3: which I am, and then it's going to my own

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Speaker 3: training session, and then it's going to do another interview,

941
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Speaker 3: and then it's teaching another class, and then I'm collapsing.

942
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Speaker 2: I'm doing it against.

943
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Speaker 3: Tomorrow, and it's like the adrenaline keeps me going, but

944
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Speaker 3: I have to create the same guard rails around my

945
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Speaker 3: rest that I would advise someone else to do.

946
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Speaker 2: Usually people have issues ramping up. I have issues ramping down.

947
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Speaker 2: I feel you. I'm the exact same way.

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Speaker 1: You have an opportunity tomorrow. You here, you get the tip,

949
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: the inside scoop. Instagram's going away tomorrow, and if it

950
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: goes away, you have a chance to leave one more

951
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: piece of epic shit on your Instagram, like one last

952
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: thing that you want your community, your people to read

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Speaker 1: every single day.

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Speaker 2: What do you tell them? I would say to ask themselves,

955
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Speaker 2: why not me? Why not me? Why not you?

956
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: Why you to get that job? Why not you to

957
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: have that amazing partner? Why not you to get paid

958
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Speaker 3: what you should be worth?

959
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Speaker 2: Why not you?

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Speaker 3: I think we tend to see other people's success stories

961
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Speaker 3: as somebody else's success story and the moment I started

962
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Speaker 3: asking why not me? Is really when everything that was

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Speaker 3: the tipping point. So that's what I would submit to

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Speaker 3: your listeners.

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Speaker 2: The last thing and then the last thing, real talk.

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Speaker 1: You have a chance right now looking back on that

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Speaker 1: twenty year old on Second Avenue and you get the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to offer her at her hurdle moment one piece

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Speaker 1: of advice. What is the thing that you tell your

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Speaker 1: twenty year old self now looking back on it.

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Speaker 2: I would say, trust your struggle because you will have

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Speaker 2: the ability to turn pain into power. I love it. Robin.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming in here today. This

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Speaker 1: thank you so so fun, so fun. Please take a

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Speaker 1: moment to leave a quick review by clicking the link

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Speaker 1: with the description to this episode.

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Speaker 2: We all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to

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Speaker 2: hear about yours.

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Speaker 1: Reach out to me at Emily at Hurdle dot us,

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Speaker 1: connect with the podcast on Instagram and Twitter at Hurdle Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Robin. Where do they find you? Where do they find Peloton?

982
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Speaker 2: Give me the whole scoop.

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Speaker 3: So at one Peloton one, Peloton dot com and at

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Speaker 3: Robin NYC.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I am at Emily a body on Instagram. Another hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 1: Catch you guys next time.