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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, check this out. Shaq's ex wife Shannie she
Speaker 2: ever loved him? Shannie Henderson. Shannie Henderson questioned her love
Speaker 2: for him in a memoir and a memoir Undefeated, Changed
Speaker 2: in the Rules and winning on my own term. She wrote,
Speaker 2: looking back, I don't know if I ever really loved him.
Speaker 2: I was really in love with the man over the
Speaker 2: course of their relationship, which began in the late nineties
Speaker 2: and ultimately ended in two thousand and nine when she
Speaker 2: filed for separation. The couple struggled with the FIDELI, with
Speaker 2: Shack admitted and his twenty eleven memoir, Shaq posted a
Speaker 2: cryptic message on social media. The next day, Shanni wrote,
Speaker 2: I underd Shaq wrote, I understand I wouldn't have been
Speaker 2: in love with me either, making you all the best
Speaker 2: all love.
Speaker 3: Shack captured the post. Trust me, I get that.
Speaker 5: That's that.
Speaker 6: That hurts man, That hurts that, that hurts me. I mean,
Speaker 6: oh man, you're just to hear something like that. Obviously,
Speaker 6: Shane Shane is a friend of mine. Shack is a
Speaker 6: friend of mine. I would have loved, I would have
Speaker 6: loved I would have loved to see those two work
Speaker 6: it out. When I think of I think of power couples,
Speaker 6: people doing their own thing and their respect for crafts
Speaker 6: and being successful at it.
Speaker 5: Obviously things didn't work out. They part of ways.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 5: That's tough though.
Speaker 6: I think many of athletes at times are in situations
Speaker 6: or they're with women at at at times, and the
Speaker 6: infidelity and the issues and the problems it overshadows the
Speaker 6: glitz and glamour. And I think at one point maybe
Speaker 6: she did love Shack, but all the us, all the
Speaker 6: other issues that came with being with a person or
Speaker 6: player of his caliber, I think it overshadowed that, and
Speaker 6: at some point, at some point, the love went away.
Speaker 5: What you think or am I wrong?
Speaker 2: You're missing the point of what she said. She said,
Speaker 2: there's one that you can love someone but not be
Speaker 2: in love.
Speaker 6: Whoa wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, stay right there,
Speaker 6: stay right there, stay right because I gotta use this
Speaker 6: and I gotta use this.
Speaker 5: I gotta use this next time.
Speaker 3: And I think I think our chat could tell I
Speaker 3: just wait wait, stay with me.
Speaker 5: You can't. You don't give me no goo uh huh.
Speaker 3: You can love someone but not be in love.
Speaker 5: Stay right.
Speaker 3: There difference between the two and what she's saying. I
Speaker 3: loved him, but I don't know if I.
Speaker 5: Was love because I want to make sure.
Speaker 6: I want to. I want to, I want to. I
Speaker 6: want to dot my eyes and I'm going to cross
Speaker 6: my t's in my own goddamn household. So while we
Speaker 6: don't waiting on this topic, let me have that you
Speaker 6: real quick.
Speaker 5: Ain't no baby, no that this is.
Speaker 6: Important because I don't want to. I don't want to
Speaker 6: waste no. I don't want to waste no time.
Speaker 5: Now do you do you love me?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 5: Say give me give me the question the right way?
Speaker 3: Do you love o Cho? Or are you in love
Speaker 3: with Ojo?
Speaker 5: I am in love with you and I love you? Okay?
Speaker 3: Are you sure? How do I?
Speaker 5: How do I make sure? How do how do?
Speaker 3: How do I know?
Speaker 5: If time?
Speaker 3: Only time?
Speaker 2: There's no guarant there's no way Because I'm sure Shaq
Speaker 2: thought she was in love with it. Now she said
Speaker 2: she don't know if she really was were but can
Speaker 2: see I just don't get. I don't get because here's
Speaker 2: the thing. Let's just say, for the only reason something
Speaker 2: do you believe? And I know she's remarried and she's
Speaker 2: I think you're mad to a pastor. Now yeah, let
Speaker 2: me ask you this, O Joe, how many how many
Speaker 2: pastors wives are writing memoirs that people are reading.
Speaker 5: I would think that would be against a good book.
Speaker 2: They're gonna read this book because she was married to Shaq.
Speaker 2: She became a household name because she was married to Shaq.
Speaker 2: For the longest time, she kept that old Neil name.
Speaker 2: And I ain't got no problem with Like I said,
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I'm not here the bad Johnny.
Speaker 2: But my thing is, I don't get why you needed
Speaker 2: to say that. Why you needed to say that.
Speaker 6: If you're writing a book, if you're writing a memoir,
Speaker 6: the point of the memoir is to be able to
Speaker 6: share your thoughts, your feelings, some of the things that
Speaker 6: some of the things that people didn't know, the ups
Speaker 6: and downs of your life, especially your marriage during and after.
Speaker 6: I think it can help with other women that might
Speaker 6: be in similar situations, that might not feel that might
Speaker 6: feel the same way. They're stuck in a situation because
Speaker 6: of the lifestyle that they are provided and afforded to
Speaker 6: where they're really not in love, but they're there because
Speaker 6: of you know what, and and and and I think
Speaker 6: now that she's free, she can she can be free
Speaker 6: to speak.
Speaker 3: On you know what.
Speaker 5: Damn I was with this individual all this time, and
Speaker 5: I don't even think I was really in love, but
Speaker 5: I was blind. I was blinded by the I'm gonna
Speaker 5: be that presented itself? Or am I wrong?
Speaker 3: I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: You're blinded about seven hundred million dollars, but that money
Speaker 2: was stacked so how you couldn't see straight?
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, I'm gonna give you.
Speaker 5: Something waiting to give.
Speaker 6: That.
Speaker 5: I know you're finna give me some good ship.
Speaker 6: Or me.
Speaker 2: If it's someone I cared about, someone that I close,
Speaker 2: that I'm close with.
Speaker 3: I believe it is okay to lie to a person
Speaker 3: if you will save the free harm. Oh no, don't
Speaker 3: do that. How do you think that? Let me ask
Speaker 3: your question? How do you think that makes shacks feel?
Speaker 3: After all?
Speaker 5: Yes, knowing Shack?
Speaker 3: You know how you know?
Speaker 2: If let's just say, ten years from now, and I
Speaker 2: hope you are real you and got y'all, got y'all
Speaker 2: man seventy five years, if Reil comes out and writes
Speaker 2: a book I loved O Joe, but I'm not sure
Speaker 2: I was in love with Ocho.
Speaker 3: That would crush you.
Speaker 5: Yah thinks crush you?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: So think about what you think about what you've done
Speaker 2: for real that you haven't done for any other woman.
Speaker 6: Now you're preaching I had you have made me stand up?
Speaker 6: Come on now, hey, I don't you boy ay and
Speaker 6: see you have more expectation for real than you had
Speaker 6: any woman that you expectations.
Speaker 3: The greater the expectations, the greater the heart that comes
Speaker 3: along with us.
Speaker 5: Why I always tell why you think? I always told
Speaker 5: you what I've always been good at? Excuse me? Excuse
Speaker 5: me love love that loved at woman to death? What
Speaker 5: what did I tell you? Though we've been in the
Speaker 5: game a very long time, there's something very important that we.
Speaker 6: All need to do and learn to do, is be
Speaker 6: able to manage being able to manage our expectations.
Speaker 2: You can't manage your expectations when you're in love with someone,
Speaker 2: because you can't be in love with someone if you're
Speaker 2: managing your expectations, because you have to be willing. You
Speaker 2: have to see. Here is the thing, Oh, Joe. In
Speaker 2: order to be in love, you have to be vulnerable.
Speaker 2: And see there's a different, two different different. You could
Speaker 2: be bundable but not be weak. So you may be
Speaker 2: weak but not be vulnerable. But see what love what love?
Speaker 2: Love requires that you become vulnerable, that you're willing to
Speaker 2: open yourself, you're willing to fall, and know that rail
Speaker 2: will wait.
Speaker 5: Let me let me see if she hold on. Now
Speaker 5: we gotta we gotta do the test. Now hold on,
Speaker 5: hold on. See sometimes sometimes this is how you know.
Speaker 3: You gotta good.
Speaker 5: You got your good partner. What if by the way, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: don't do that.
Speaker 3: Ye're right there.
Speaker 6: This is gonna let me know if we're gonna last.
Speaker 6: We just gonna let me know if we're gonna last,
Speaker 6: if I can trust them, you know, if she if
Speaker 6: she catched me. Because sometimes you only are strong. It's
Speaker 6: your supporting cast, you know that, right, you know sometimes
Speaker 6: in life you're only is as strong as your foundation.
Speaker 1: Huh okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, you see she
Speaker 1: got she got me?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Because the thing is use the two O, Joe.
Speaker 2: Because a person can be vulnerable and not.
Speaker 7: Be weak, and a person not to be careful because
Speaker 7: you got to be careful because today's in today's era,
Speaker 7: here's the society vulnerability to women that seeing as weakness
Speaker 7: depending depend.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 2: That's how you have to be vulnerable who you That's
Speaker 2: why you have to who.
Speaker 3: You're vulnerable with.
Speaker 2: But again, once you open up your vulnerabilities, there's an
Speaker 2: expectation level, and when that expectation level is not met,
Speaker 2: they're in lies the hurt. There in lies the pain.
Speaker 2: And so look, Seani can write whatever you want. I
Speaker 2: don't like I said, I've never met Seannie.
Speaker 3: I don't know her. I don't I don't I don't
Speaker 3: trash people. But I just all things being said, I
Speaker 3: wish you hadn't said that.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 2: Because you do realize, you do realize that's the father
Speaker 2: of your kids. You just told your kids. I'm not
Speaker 2: so sure I was ever in love with your father.
Speaker 5: But is it okay? Is it?
Speaker 6: At this point in life do you continue to hide
Speaker 6: the fact how you truly felt or at what point
Speaker 6: you come out and say this is how I really feel.
Speaker 6: Especially if you're writing a memoir and it's a memoir.
Speaker 6: I'm assuming that can also help other women that are
Speaker 6: in similar situations that don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: So similar situation, you would have got worth three quarters
Speaker 2: of a billion dollars and he gave you everything and
Speaker 2: you still living off that. That's what you want to
Speaker 2: help him do. Look, my thing is for me, what's
Speaker 2: the old adage, Love hurts, Love hurts. And the longer
Speaker 2: and the more, the greater the expectations, the more it hurts.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 2: The thing is with this is that breaking up is
Speaker 2: easy if you're the one that wants to do the
Speaker 2: breaking up. Normally they're very I don't know. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I can only speak to for myself and people that
Speaker 2: I've been around. But anybody that I've ever been close
Speaker 2: around that didn't want to break up, it wasn't easy. Man,
Speaker 2: Shot what I need to do? How can I get
Speaker 2: a back? Showing them what can I do to get
Speaker 2: him back? Because that's not what they wanted. Now those
Speaker 2: same people, I've seen those same people walk away from
Speaker 2: a relationship like it's nothing because they're the one that's
Speaker 2: doing the breaking up.
Speaker 3: Breaking up is easier than being broken up with.
Speaker 2: But and and so that's why you have to be
Speaker 2: mindful when there are kids involved of what you say
Speaker 2: and how you treat said said.
Speaker 3: Partner, right, because the kids are watching.
Speaker 5: So you got you got me tearing up listening.
Speaker 3: Ship. So how you when you hear kids talk a
Speaker 3: certain way where you think they learned that from? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Remember remember, no matter who you oo, no matter who
Speaker 2: you are, you're dating that person. Oh, past trauma, childhood,
Speaker 2: the relationship they had with their mom, with the with
Speaker 2: their dad, the previous relationship.
Speaker 3: That's what you're that's what you're dating.
Speaker 6: And you know what, So that means obviously, if the
Speaker 6: person hasn't had counseling or therapy, then those past traumas
Speaker 6: can affect the relationship that they're in now.
Speaker 5: And it just it just it just carries over like a.
Speaker 3: If you're not careful, oyo, you lead on the person
Speaker 3: that didn't even cut you.
Speaker 8: What hey, god damn, now is a good one. Hong
Speaker 8: Red got in the background, go to bed. I'm talking
Speaker 8: to Oh Joe, hold on, hold on?
Speaker 5: What was that again?
Speaker 2: I said, Yeah, if you don't go to therapy, if
Speaker 2: you're not heal, you bleed on the person that didn't
Speaker 2: even cut you.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be able to use it.
Speaker 2: It's tough, but I wish look I just I wish,
Speaker 2: Like I said, I know Shack a little bit. I
Speaker 2: met him a couple of times. Great, got funny. What
Speaker 2: you see the big funny, big giant kid.
Speaker 3: He's a set.
Speaker 2: He's a seven foot one, fifteen year old. That's his personality.
Speaker 2: He wants everybody to have a great time. He's generous,
Speaker 2: beyond generous. I just you know, I just in this situation.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I mean, boy, he grown as man,
Speaker 2: but he had fair I don't care how big you are.
Speaker 2: I don't care how old are you. You have feelings.
Speaker 2: You have feelings. Tonight someone learned the videos that does
Speaker 2: not stop playing when you connect disconnect from Bluetooth. During
Speaker 2: Luca Press game press or, a reporter went out to
Speaker 2: pull his phone to record and accidentally hit the open
Speaker 2: video of a porn.
Speaker 3: And it blared. It blared for all the heir. Let's
Speaker 3: take a listen. Oo, we're open shots.
Speaker 5: So I'm just her shaking the ball and our energy
Speaker 5: was great.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, moving on.
Speaker 6: That's why I don't open up Twitter in public. I
Speaker 6: don't open up Twitter in public because I ain't no
Speaker 6: telling what.
Speaker 5: What's gonna.
Speaker 3: Uh uh, I ain't got I ain't got no follow.
Speaker 6: Listen, I follow black Twitter, White Twitter, Mexican Twitter, rap Twitter.
Speaker 6: It just I follow so many, I said, I followed
Speaker 6: seven thousand people because it makes the timeline enjoyable, because
Speaker 6: I'm hitting on I'm seeing all all types of different topics.
Speaker 6: But just sometime sometimes in public, And I told you
Speaker 6: on one of the shows, maybe it might have been
Speaker 6: last year, I was in public and I opened Twitter
Speaker 6: to scroll. I might have been at the grocery store
Speaker 6: and I had him a sound up loud by accident,
Speaker 6: and and lord behold, I scroll right onto one of
Speaker 6: the pages with two people.
Speaker 5: Doing horizontal activity, and it was loud.
Speaker 6: And every time something like that happens and you try
Speaker 6: to scroll out of some fast scroll out of some fast.
Speaker 5: Why you always miss Why you always missed the tab
Speaker 5: to close it out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I bet I followed, because you hear about thing,
Speaker 2: I probably be a man, Shouting Sean follow this porn site.
Speaker 2: Shouting Sean followed, go ahead and raise this thing, man,
Speaker 2: yeahs there like that.
Speaker 5: They go all they go through your likes, they go
Speaker 5: through for your book.
Speaker 3: Now, yes, yes, I was like, man, I can't get
Speaker 3: no level of privacy.
Speaker 5: But that person get fined. Was that tonight?
Speaker 3: That that's that's I know they got in trouble.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all of the players playing around.
Speaker 3: There ain't no player playing around. That's that's that's that's.
Speaker 6: You know what watch watch I guarantee it's one of
Speaker 6: the players.
Speaker 5: Of the players playing around did it on purpose?
Speaker 3: What if you married.
Speaker 5: See, I'm telling you, I guarantee you that's one of
Speaker 5: the players did that on purpose. I bet I guarantee
Speaker 5: you when it comes comes.
Speaker 3: Out, now, that was the case. Why he said okay,
Speaker 3: but had no idea.
Speaker 5: How would the how would the sound? Think about it?
Speaker 5: How would the sound if you're a reporter in the room,
Speaker 5: how would the sound be that clear?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because you place the record, you try, because
Speaker 2: they calmed down, you asked the question, because they want
Speaker 2: to hear.
Speaker 3: They want to hear the question that's being asked, and
Speaker 3: they want to hear them.
Speaker 5: Hey, that's that's funny. That is funny. That was funny, man, man.
Speaker 5: Let me got me tearing up on that.
Speaker 6: Damn.
Speaker 5: That was a good segment. Was you are using him preaching?
Speaker 5: That got me got me all emotional.
Speaker 2: Man, Hey, shake this out on Joe NFL safety here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you saw that, but two hundred and thirty thousand for
Speaker 2: a cyber truck. Let's take a listen, let's take a
Speaker 2: look at the video.
Speaker 3: Joe good, hey doing, I'm all good, all good, brown brown,
Speaker 3: sorry myself, okay, okay, thanks for the forty nine.
Speaker 5: Oh you do? Yeah that's cool, Ricky, I got some
Speaker 5: cyber trucks, we do. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I got to pull it up for you right here.
Speaker 3: How was it? Bro man?
Speaker 5: Look, come get you a cyber truck man. Let's go,
Speaker 5: come get you a cyber truck man.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
Speaker 5: You're talking speed. It's spacious. You're talking every kind of
Speaker 5: camera angle possible.
Speaker 3: Like you want to talk numbers, Yeah, let's talk numbers. Number.
Speaker 3: Do you you want to pay cash for the thing?
Speaker 3: Or do you want to I wouldn't give me to
Speaker 3: pay cash for I ain't got it all on me
Speaker 3: right now? What do you have? Can you like? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Cash wise? So the truck the trucks to thirty? He said,
Speaker 3: not in the card right now. But who's that guy?
Speaker 3: That's my effect, that's your what he said. He's saying,
Speaker 3: it's not in the cars right now, it's on the
Speaker 3: cars right now for not even for two oh okay,
Speaker 3: he said, not in the cars.
Speaker 5: We ain't gonna list nine.
Speaker 3: Okay, So so we're not buying it. Okay, you'm gonna
Speaker 3: buy it, okay, all right, no probably around with all right,
Speaker 3: no problem, Bro, I appreciate you coming in, yes, sir,
Speaker 3: all right, always bro, all right, always thanks. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: It's my god man.
Speaker 3: I don't know who he called.
Speaker 6: I don't know who he called, but I want to
Speaker 6: thank that person to make sure that he didn't make
Speaker 6: that purchase for that vehicle that was marked up times.
Speaker 5: Way too much. The base model price.
Speaker 3: Listen, yeah, I think what what what it lists for?
Speaker 3: Eighty five? They look for like eighty two, and it
Speaker 3: can go up to like they normally probably go what
Speaker 3: you charge.
Speaker 6: The base the base model price, but one that you
Speaker 6: would get for your son, you know, if your son
Speaker 6: is the freshman in college, is sixty thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The one above that seventy nine thousand, The Beast I
Speaker 6: think it's called the Beasts or some The top model
Speaker 6: is ninety seven thousand. None of the three cyber trucks
Speaker 6: that you have at your availability is over one hundred grand. Now,
Speaker 6: the problem is there's a waiting list at Tesla. That's
Speaker 6: the issue. So there are other car dealerships that have them,
Speaker 6: and what they're doing is they're just marking the truck
Speaker 6: up because of supply and demand and understanding that there
Speaker 6: are people that have the money and they will spend
Speaker 6: it just to say, hey, look, I got a cyber
Speaker 6: truck before everybody else, just to say I got one,
Speaker 6: and they're willing to pay one hundred thousand dollar markup
Speaker 6: or whatever it may be. But hey, to each his own,
Speaker 6: to each his own. I'm gonna tell you what my
Speaker 6: grandma used to tell me. A fool and his money
Speaker 6: sell shooting part ways. God damn two hundred and thirty
Speaker 6: thousand or sixty sixty thousand dollars truck.
Speaker 5: Stop playing with me, man, Stop playing elon Musk.
Speaker 6: I know you're gonna see this. Send your boy or
Speaker 6: cyber truck. Send your boy a cyber truck.
Speaker 5: Please, please promoted. I put I put the cyber truck
Speaker 5: as my avvy on on on X Yeah yeah truck. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not gonna buy it.
Speaker 3: I rent one.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna buy it.
Speaker 3: Man. I talked to real.
Speaker 6: I had real looking to it when it first came out.
Speaker 6: You heard her, You heard what she said. She saw
Speaker 6: the price about I lost my dad mind, and you see,
Speaker 6: that's that's what I like. That's that's that's what that's all.
Speaker 6: Because I have somebody right I'm already financially conscious, or
Speaker 6: I was already that way. Then I have someone else
Speaker 6: that is the exact same way as me, that has
Speaker 6: an understanding like, you know what, we're gonna sit down.
Speaker 5: We're gonna sit down for a month.
Speaker 6: We might sit down for two months and then you
Speaker 6: know what month one month we might say, you know what,
Speaker 6: we're gonna turn up and act like we grew up
Speaker 6: with the royal family. That that is such a great
Speaker 6: effing feeling when when you're on the same page as
Speaker 6: opposed to you know, it could be the other way around,
Speaker 6: It could be the other way around.
Speaker 2: Marlon Wayiams is sharing a surprising reason why he never
Speaker 2: walked down the aisle. The fifty one year old actor
Speaker 2: and comedian told The New York Times that he's worried
Speaker 2: about potential why would make his mother feel slighted. I
Speaker 2: never got married because I never wanted my mother to
Speaker 2: be jealous of a woman. I never wanted my mother
Speaker 2: to feel second to any woman. William's mother death in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty at the age of eighty one hit him
Speaker 2: hard and made him realize she was his whole world.
Speaker 3: My mother's death broke me. It shattered me into a
Speaker 3: million pieces because that was my girl.
Speaker 6: That's a good one. Here were just a few shows ago.
Speaker 6: We just remember we just we just talked about that,
Speaker 6: the girlfriend and the mother arguing. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 6: no mother will ever see a woman. It's being good
Speaker 6: enough for her. That's just the nature of it in general, no.
Speaker 5: Matter who it is. And so I kind of understand
Speaker 5: where Marlin is coming from. Reil has had small way.
Speaker 5: You had issue with Mammy? No, not really, no, no
Speaker 5: real didan't have any issue? Oh yeah, she cuts real
Speaker 5: out on her birthday? On my birthday? Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Everybody got it. My kids got it. And we have
Speaker 5: a saying here in Miami.
Speaker 6: You're not really a friend of mine, or you haven't
Speaker 6: been around me long enough, if you haven't been cursed
Speaker 6: out by my mama, if she ain't never got you, now,
Speaker 6: you ain't really my friend. I don't really know you
Speaker 6: like that, because everybody has got it from the pastes
Speaker 6: to my coaches to those outdated in the past, those
Speaker 6: that have kids from my kids got it. It's to
Speaker 6: the point where my kids it was so funny. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: for real, Hey, it was so funny and that that
Speaker 6: was the saying and the feeling.
Speaker 5: Hey.
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, you know, I still have all her
Speaker 6: text messages. You probably can't see it.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 3: I can't see it, but that's great passed away.
Speaker 5: These are all messages of messages of her cussing me out.
Speaker 5: You see, I'm still scrolling right.
Speaker 3: Wow, No, you laughed.
Speaker 5: This is all her.
Speaker 6: Come to, all her messages with her cursing me out
Speaker 6: before she passed away. So what happened is when she
Speaker 6: cursed me out, I don't I don't text back because
Speaker 6: if I text back it it gets to writhed.
Speaker 5: Up even more. And so I listen.
Speaker 6: I never forget man, never being able to say goodbye
Speaker 6: to my mama, and her passing away cursing me out
Speaker 6: was so perfect and so on brand for who she was.
Speaker 5: It just made it just made sense.
Speaker 3: Oko.
Speaker 2: This something I want to address just brought to my attention,
Speaker 2: is that, oh show everyone's family, Okay, Shaq about the
Speaker 2: comments that I said last night, Shaq said you took
Speaker 2: me sticking up for shade as jealousy of joking shows
Speaker 2: how smart you are.
Speaker 3: And how you say anything to get clicked. That's not
Speaker 3: what I did.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so here's the cliquebaite for you. If I
Speaker 2: ain't ranking the top ten of your profession, then you
Speaker 2: can't speak. Don't forget. I know what you did to
Speaker 2: get where you're at. Me jealous sounds like you jealous.
Speaker 2: I know you're trying to stay relevant by gossiping on
Speaker 2: your podcast.
Speaker 3: We don't. We don't believe you. You need more people
Speaker 3: in the cage. You forgot four rings.
Speaker 2: Three finals, MVPs, top fifty, top seventy five, and to
Speaker 2: be quite frank, all this success you got still under me.
Speaker 2: You don't know my work ethic, but according I worked
Speaker 2: less but notah blah blah blah. But anyway, love you,
Speaker 2: Love you too. If you need help making money, it's
Speaker 2: better ways than gossiping. I'm too old for this. Ish
Speaker 2: love always the most dominating big man ever, never took it, saius.
Speaker 2: Remember I know you, and you know words of skip
Speaker 2: better something better than you hashtag G fourteen classification.
Speaker 6: I have it. You don't not in my profession. When
Speaker 6: that happened, he just about timidation checking ck never.
Speaker 3: No, he on, I g I've never professed.
Speaker 2: I'm I've never professed that I was his greatest shot, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: But what I will say.
Speaker 3: I got what I got, yes.
Speaker 2: Sir, because I worked my ass off. Now, Shack has
Speaker 2: been the one to say it that he didn't work
Speaker 2: as hard, he didn't train as hard, he didn't eat
Speaker 2: as well as he should have. Shack is the one
Speaker 2: that anytime someone wins an MVP, he talks about how
Speaker 2: he should have been the MVP over Steve Nash. Now
Speaker 2: you guys have heard me speak glowingly. I say, Travis
Speaker 2: Kelsey is better ted than I was.
Speaker 3: So was grown.
Speaker 2: So was a my guy. What's his name for the charge?
Speaker 2: Antonio Gates Gonzo Big Winslow, I'm cool. I got no problem.
Speaker 2: You know why I got no problem with your with
Speaker 2: giving people credit because I got everything out of my
Speaker 2: God given ability. God gave me the ability to do
Speaker 2: what I could do, but he gave me discipline, He
Speaker 2: gave me dedication.
Speaker 3: The way I trained, the way I ate, the way
Speaker 3: I slept. So this was all I could get.
Speaker 2: Now, I would have felt some type of way if
Speaker 2: I'd have got these numbers, and I half asked it, but.
Speaker 3: I never half asked it.
Speaker 2: Every I mean, Kobe said Shaq should have won and
Speaker 2: they should have won, but he took. But my thing
Speaker 2: is is that you can't and said the greatest characters,
Speaker 2: it's Shack. I'm the greatest character. No Am I a
Speaker 2: top one hundred player. No Am I the equivalent as
Speaker 2: a football player as Shaq was as a basketball player. No,
Speaker 2: but what I did do is that I maximized. And
Speaker 2: my question if Shaq, and yeah, because it's rough on
Speaker 2: the back, my question is, do you believe that you
Speaker 2: gave everything you possibly could in basketball? Did you train
Speaker 2: the way you should have? Did you eat the way
Speaker 2: you should have? Did you That just goes to show
Speaker 2: you how great you was, is that you didn't. You
Speaker 2: allowed your weight to get out of control, the injury
Speaker 2: started to creep up, and you got four rings and
Speaker 2: you got three finals MVP.
Speaker 6: See I'm mad man. I wish I understood. I wish
Speaker 6: I because I wish I understood that. Damn basketball. So
Speaker 6: when you're talking about Shaq, especially during that time, think
Speaker 6: about this. If I don't know basketball now, the way
Speaker 6: I should, the way you do. Like what you're telling
Speaker 6: me right now. It's like I'm trying to process the ship,
Speaker 6: but I can't because I wasn't watching about it. He's
Speaker 6: the fuck man.
Speaker 2: Think about it, Oh Joe, he's the most he's the
Speaker 2: most dominant big man in the history of the game.
Speaker 3: And he got and he got one m VP.
Speaker 6: But think about this, Think about how they just I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna say rob, I don't want to use the
Speaker 6: word rob.
Speaker 5: Think about how they took.
Speaker 6: Thirty thirty points, number one seed, but he doesn't get it.
Speaker 6: So what what what criteria criteria for m v P?
Speaker 6: If you just gave it the Joker again, it's.
Speaker 3: But I don't think they gave it because Joker was
Speaker 3: top ten in points, top ten and rebounds top ten
Speaker 3: and assists and they basically had the same record they
Speaker 3: just had.
Speaker 2: Okay, see, just had a better division record. So you're
Speaker 2: talking about so it's not like Shane. They were the
Speaker 2: number one seed and Joker.
Speaker 5: See.
Speaker 2: Shaq, if you took what I said of the slight, okay,
Speaker 2: I can get it, and people say, well with see,
Speaker 2: My thing is is that I'm not saying that I
Speaker 2: would I've never said I was the quitter, and I'm
Speaker 2: quick to say that. When I said, when I talk
Speaker 2: about Kevin Durand, or I talk about any player, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm not there, plil a basketball player, But.
Speaker 3: All I can do is maximize my ability.
Speaker 5: Shock.
Speaker 3: No, deep down, he could take all the shots.
Speaker 2: Yeah you got more money, Yeah you're more famous to me,
Speaker 2: Yeah you're more well known. You're gonna have way more
Speaker 2: money than I ever have. But nobody will ever say
Speaker 2: that I was lazy or I cheated myself. That's all
Speaker 2: I got for you, big boy. I ain't got none
Speaker 2: else for you, Sho, I ain't got no. I ain't
Speaker 2: here to argue with you. I'm not here to debate
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 5: It is what it is.
Speaker 2: I can't do any more on the football field. You
Speaker 2: can't do any more in the basketball court.
Speaker 3: Yes you were great, Yes you were great, But you know,
Speaker 3: deep down you should be in the top five, not
Speaker 3: top ten.
Speaker 2: Because you just said who else was the most dominant?
Speaker 2: You said you were the most dominant. Most people agree
Speaker 2: you were the most dominant.
Speaker 5: Here we go again.
Speaker 6: Yes, with my lack of basketball fucking knowledge, if Shack
Speaker 6: was the most dominant to ever play at his position
Speaker 6: right the five, the center.
Speaker 5: How is he not even to have gottenham top five?
Speaker 3: Ask him? Ask the people that say it's Shack you
Speaker 3: in the top five.
Speaker 5: I'm assuming people, Okay, I need to take a fucking
Speaker 5: course or something.
Speaker 6: If he's top five, if he's the best big man
Speaker 6: of all time, then he has to be in everyone's
Speaker 6: top five.
Speaker 5: You got Jordan, you got Kobe Lebron. I'm assuming I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know how the I don't know how the
Speaker 5: ranking goal.
Speaker 2: I've see what I've done. I've told people my criteria
Speaker 2: for the top five. I say, for me, for you
Speaker 2: to be in the top five, you have to have
Speaker 2: at least you have to have more than one regular
Speaker 2: season MVP.
Speaker 3: That's my criteria.
Speaker 2: Now some people say, well, Shannon, as long as you
Speaker 2: got this or as long as you got that, that's
Speaker 2: their criteria.
Speaker 3: Like you said, what is the criteria for the MV?
Speaker 6: Wait, I have a question, why do Why does the
Speaker 6: individual award matter to be included in the top five
Speaker 6: or something?
Speaker 5: In general?
Speaker 6: If you just if you were the he was the
Speaker 6: most dominant at that position, why does the MVP matter?
Speaker 2: You're the most you got most dominant you got You're
Speaker 2: the most dominant and you only win one MVP, So
Speaker 2: how dominant were you? I believe he's the most dominant.
Speaker 2: I do because I watched him play. Now, I didn't
Speaker 2: see Will. I'm not finish say I didn't see Will.
Speaker 2: I just saw just see Will's numbers. But for the
Speaker 2: guy and I started following basketball back in the late seventies.
Speaker 2: So as far as dominant, Shaq was it?
Speaker 3: Shaq was it. Shaq is the most dominant player, which
Speaker 3: means he should have more.
Speaker 6: Than one regular dominant during these years. Who the hell
Speaker 6: was winning the damn MVPs.
Speaker 3: Jordan's uh lebron Wan some m v P s Uh
Speaker 3: Shaq came in in ninety two, So Jordans cal Malone.
Speaker 5: Barkeley won the m v P.
Speaker 3: Hey I came alive, I came Elijah Wan, David Robinson,
Speaker 3: Tim Duncan Barkeley won m v P.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Hey, when I look at Charge, when I look.
Speaker 3: At Charles, people see people see no, no, no, see
Speaker 3: people people laughing. No, arg was what.
Speaker 5: But he looked he look underside, very undersigned.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's crazy.
Speaker 6: Yes, I can't I can't, I can't see I can't
Speaker 6: see Chuck outside of T N T or see. I
Speaker 6: can't see him outside of golf. The picture him dominated
Speaker 6: on exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: He was the real deal. He was the real He
Speaker 3: was the real deal. He may hey, yeah, but but
Speaker 3: I put it like this here, if Shaq if Shaq,
Speaker 3: Let's just say Shaq came in in ninety two and
Speaker 3: he stayed at three twenty five, ain't no way he
Speaker 3: doesn't have four or five MVP. There's not not no
Speaker 3: way he doesn't have four, he doesn't have five six.
Speaker 5: And when he was in Orlando, he said he was
Speaker 5: three twenty five.
Speaker 3: When he came out of he said, one three twenty
Speaker 3: five is man.
Speaker 5: That's a big human black god.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And that's why I say, you're never We're never gonna
Speaker 3: see a Shaquille O Mill again. People talk about we're
Speaker 3: not gonna see a Jordan, We're not gonna see a Lebron,
Speaker 3: We're not gonna see a Kobe. We're never gonna see
Speaker 3: a guy move like this size.
Speaker 5: Hey back, can you know the little clip?
Speaker 6: Remember the little cope and him and Jordan playing around
Speaker 6: at the All Star Game and he hit the Hey, yes, boy, buddy, footwork,
Speaker 6: footwork were like that.
Speaker 2: But do you remember that used to they used to
Speaker 2: have they used to have a show on I forget
Speaker 2: the name of the show where like Shaq would like
Speaker 2: Shaq would like he would like go play flag football.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I remember did you.
Speaker 3: Watch did you watch sha you see Shaun?
Speaker 2: I remember it was it was the episode. I remember
Speaker 2: the episode with no, no, no, nobody, nobody had that size.
Speaker 2: You're never gonna see a guy that size with that
Speaker 2: kind of athletic system.
Speaker 3: You're not. But maybe this, Okay, this is my opinion.
Speaker 2: I believe had Shock taken it as serious as Kobe,
Speaker 2: as serious as George, as seriously as as as Lebron.
Speaker 3: With what he know and the access that he had.
Speaker 2: So because as you get to that level, you have
Speaker 2: access to the best trainers, you have the access to
Speaker 2: the best nutritionists, the best chefs.
Speaker 3: Right, that's just my personal.
Speaker 6: You know what, I ain't.
Speaker 5: For Shack.
Speaker 6: We a have no beef for Shack because I don't
Speaker 6: want to have to jump on him. You know, I
Speaker 6: love Lit now you laughing. I love Shack, And I
Speaker 6: told you we ain't doing no more beasts. We ain't
Speaker 6: doing no more bets. Yeah, I'm nobody, but but we
Speaker 6: can't do We can have a healthy dialogue based on
Speaker 6: how we feel about, you know, individuals and their respective
Speaker 6: crafts and and and and that's it.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they might take offense to it. Shaq, we love you, Shack.
Speaker 5: You know I love you. Know how I feel about you.
Speaker 6: You know you You're a dog, and that there were
Speaker 6: there were no issue, there was no problem. We were
Speaker 6: just talking about the subject matter in which I don't
Speaker 6: know much about.
Speaker 5: And that's it.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing if Shack, but see Shaq, Shaq
Speaker 2: is looking at what I'm saying in a vacuum because
Speaker 2: Shaq is the most dominant and nobody they've never bestore
Speaker 2: that title on another five other than Will. So Jokis
Speaker 2: is not more dominant, but he has more ring season
Speaker 2: MVP's no, guys are not more dominant, but he has
Speaker 2: he had And so that's what I'm saying. I believe
Speaker 2: me personally, and chat y'all can disagree, agree or disagree.
Speaker 2: But Shaques said he didn't take practice here. He said
Speaker 2: I was gonna get beat up in the game, So
Speaker 2: why was I gonna get beat up in practice? You
Speaker 2: can't think, Ocho, well, I'm gonna run it.
Speaker 3: Ocho. Think about this. Think about what he said now.
Speaker 2: He said he didn't go hard in practice because he
Speaker 2: didn't want to get beat up in practice because he's
Speaker 2: gonna get beat up in the game. What if you said,
Speaker 2: you know what, I didn't read no routes full speed
Speaker 2: in practice because I was gonna run a full speed
Speaker 2: in the game. Dang, He said on numerous occasions he
Speaker 2: wished he had taken it, he had trained harder and
Speaker 2: kept his weight under control.
Speaker 3: But I guess me pointing that out what he said,
Speaker 3: I guess he you know I'm where I am.
Speaker 2: Because you know, Ojo, you know I was able to
Speaker 2: walk away from the game and never ever looked back
Speaker 2: because I got everything I could out of this seventh
Speaker 2: round draft selection, out of this body. Nobody will ever say, yes,
Speaker 2: people have more talent than showing God gave them back.
Speaker 3: But you ain't gonna find nobody to say that I
Speaker 3: worked it and that's all I had.
Speaker 2: So eight fifteen ten thy, sixty sixty two touchdowns, eight
Speaker 2: Pro Bowls, First team All Pro, five total, three Super Bowls.
Speaker 3: That's all I got, on yo, That's all that's all
Speaker 3: I could get out of what God gave me. I
Speaker 3: couldn't get anything like it. And by this and by
Speaker 3: my podcast, my podcast is what it is. Some people
Speaker 3: like it, some people don't. More people like it than don't.
Speaker 3: The numbers speak for itself. So I wish you the
Speaker 3: best on your podcast and your your platform. But I
Speaker 3: ain't got nothing. Ain't I ain't.
Speaker 6: But what we can do is we can have a
Speaker 6: nightcap versus T and T Royal rumble like if them
Speaker 6: boy won't smoke, we could we can get it on huh, Like, listen,
Speaker 6: you get shocked. I hit, I hit Kenny, I hit Kenny,
Speaker 6: and I push Kenny over and and me and Chuck
Speaker 6: we'll go our Chuck.
Speaker 5: We can go. We can go. We can go toe
Speaker 5: to toe too. Nightcap versus T and T.
Speaker 3: I'm ready.
Speaker 5: It's it'll make me none and we could be friends
Speaker 5: right after and go eat.
Speaker 3: Look it is what it look, man, it is what
Speaker 3: it is. I mean, look and here's the thing, and
Speaker 3: this is this. Oh yeah, we're all wired. We really are.
Speaker 3: We we really are.
Speaker 2: Somebody can say a thousand times Shannon's great, but it's
Speaker 2: the one time that they say I'm not is that
Speaker 2: do you fixate on? How many times have I lard
Speaker 2: is shocked, But it's the one time what he fixate on.
Speaker 2: And that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, we all love each other, Shack, we love
Speaker 5: your baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't got no beef with Shack. I ain't
Speaker 3: never had no beef with you.
Speaker 5: Wait, listen, you vegan anyway, you don't eat beef.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but to each, to each, Shack, I wish
Speaker 2: you nothing but the best, bro, he continued, success Keep
Speaker 2: doing your thing on tn T, Keep doing your thing
Speaker 2: on the podcast. Hey, I ain't got no I ain't
Speaker 2: got no beef with you, bro. That was just my opinion.
Speaker 2: We were talking, we were talking about it last night
Speaker 2: because of what you said. I stick up for Shade whomever,
Speaker 2: Shack whomever. That's your that's your that's your opinion.
Speaker 5: Sha you want to go a few rounds, let me know.
Speaker 3: So let me know.
Speaker 2: And I was, I was just sticking up for him
Speaker 2: in the chat. But we're good, Shack, were good. Hey,
Speaker 2: you know how to get in touch with me. You
Speaker 2: want to talk, bro, Hey, you want to talk off
Speaker 2: off the off the era on there, whatever you want.
Speaker 3: To do, bro we good. I'm good. I never had
Speaker 3: a problem.
Speaker 5: You know where the fire me at?
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Speaker 5: Oh my god, hey, it's two o'clock.
Speaker 3: I got my daughter's.
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Speaker 3: I got got oh you.
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Speaker 3: Okay, h you see you see your boy?
Speaker 5: Nah?
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Speaker 9: No you're not You're not best in the house. No,
Speaker 9: you're not best in the house. I trust me trusting
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Speaker 3: It's our second wedding anniversary. Looking forward to many more.
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Speaker 2: who was the better athlete? You was spank I said,
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Speaker 3: What do you think I saw your daughter uh in
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Speaker 3: was the better football player. But as far as just
Speaker 3: pure athlete, as far as like running, jumping, catching, throwing,
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Speaker 3: The MAVs go on the road. Both road teams win
Speaker 3: tonight and even the series up at one one.
Speaker 2: The MAVs, behind twenty nine points ten rebounds, seven and
Speaker 2: cents three steals from Luca Dunjet and twenty nine points
Speaker 2: eleven rebounds from PJ. Washington, go on the road and
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Speaker 2: go on the road. They get twenty nine points from
Speaker 2: Spider Mitchell, seven rebounds, it assists and they got twenty
Speaker 2: one points, ten rebounds, five assaysts from Evan Mobley and
Speaker 2: Karris Lerburg came up the bench and gave him twenty
Speaker 2: one points and six rebounds as they go on the
Speaker 2: road and beat the Capital Celtics by twenty four points
Speaker 2: to even that series up as they go back to Cleveland.
Speaker 2: So thank you again for joining us for another episode
Speaker 2: of Nightcap. I am your favorite on Shannon Sharp, He's
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