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Speaker 1: Yo, what is this? It's guys swimming?

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Speaker 2: No way, yeah, check it out, man, it's guys swimming up.

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Speaker 1: This is sick. Hey guys, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 3: What is this guy swimming?

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Speaker 1: You got it?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: EPI hold their breath, They hold their breath underwater and

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Speaker 1: then they do one of these. What's going on? Hey man? Hey,

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Speaker 1: hey man? What is this? Swimming?

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Speaker 2: Dogs?

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Speaker 1: Guys swimming?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, epit holding their breath, holding their breath underwater, doing

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Speaker 4: one of these guys, No way, it's this.

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Speaker 1: It's guys swimming like fish. Well yeah, but they're guys.

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Speaker 2: Incredible, guys swimming like fish.

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Speaker 1: Guys swimming like fish, breathing underwater, no, holding their breath,

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Speaker 1: but they do one of these. Oh, they do like

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Speaker 1: the breathing guy. Come up for exact. You got a

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Speaker 1: bunch of swimming guys out.

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Speaker 2: There, do indeed, swimming guys swimming guys exactly.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, swim world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 6: podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 1: That's maybe my favorite cold open in a long long time.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, January fourteenth. This is the Drop Podcast. We're

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Speaker 1: here in the classic factory up J Skeets and alongside

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Speaker 3: What's up everybody? I was about to finish my wordle

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Speaker 3: and then that cold open came on.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that could good and funnier foody. Here we

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Speaker 1: got the top shot hot boy himself, Trey Kirby. Hey

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Speaker 1: ou a, oh, the international man of mystery taking it

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Speaker 1: to the max.

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Speaker 7: I mean Tity's just brought the energy from this do

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Speaker 7: I mean that's what a code open can do.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, and finally making this magic happen. Yes, super producer.

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Speaker 4: Ged guys who want to do a podcast about swimming.

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Speaker 1: sent you. Okay, on today's Drop Podcasts, We're gonna revisit

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Speaker 1: yesterday's Hawk's nixt trade. I say revisit because if you're

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Speaker 1: available obviously over on our YouTube page. But well, we've

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Speaker 1: had some time to think about it. Maybe you have

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Speaker 1: some more thoughts you wanted to share about Cam Reddish

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Speaker 1: going to the New York Nick, So we'll get into that. Lee,

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Speaker 7: For us, I sure do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, inspired by No Dunk super fan Chief, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, hopefully you got a little trivia as well.

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Speaker 1: Springing in. I've got all the Dunks elements though we'll

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Speaker 1: also touch on last night's games. A lot of them,

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Speaker 1: But the Grizzlies extended their winning streaks, so we got to.

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Speaker 3: Get to that, young boys, And you know, we've.

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Speaker 1: Got some rapid fire questions that usually aren't all that

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Speaker 1: rapid to end the week. But first, yes, but first,

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Speaker 1: something different here, guys. Earlier this week, the NBA season

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Speaker 1: some superlatives. All right, I got some questions for you guys,

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Speaker 3: little different. The boldest confident sort of production company that

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Speaker 3: to marry this story story. The Phoenix Suns, you know,

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Speaker 3: got to hate them story. The Brooklyn Nets. Nobody, nobody's

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say the Bulls, the Warriors, they're all

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Speaker 3: I don't know who you guys want to What did

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Speaker 3: I say at the Pinto story story, Yeah, the Warriors,

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Speaker 1: Well, who would you pick as the team of the

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean I think recency bias comes in to

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Speaker 7: the Bulls have been there. I think the Sons have

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Speaker 7: and now I'm not sure what the latest odds are.

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Speaker 7: I think the Nets are actually the favorite, but I

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Speaker 7: the last three games. He's missed the last two losses,

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Speaker 7: and Klay Thompson is working back in. But when they

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Speaker 7: have the time together and everyone back together, I think

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Speaker 7: they probably are the best team in the Western Conference,

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Speaker 7: As I say, I mean last night they got absolutely

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Speaker 7: pounded by a very very good team, the Milwaukee Bucks.

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Speaker 7: The night before, the Warriors lost to the Growth. A

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Speaker 8: Okay, what about you, Trey, Well, you know I'm a nutbag,

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Speaker 8: so it's got to be the Bulls for me. They

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Speaker 8: had the fewest wins in the league for the past

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Speaker 8: Eastern Conference third best overall. They're so back. Even Kevin

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Speaker 8: the second best record in the league. The only team

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Speaker 8: that's actually my choice for a team of the first half.

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Speaker 8: They're the only team right now with single digit losses.

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Speaker 8: They're just so like consistently good. Every player they run

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Speaker 8: Chris Paul is gonna get sixteen points and ten rebounds.

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Speaker 1: They're just good.

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Speaker 8: They've almost immediately become the Jazz where we're like, oh,

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Speaker 8: you're just good. You're just gonna win a whole bunch

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Speaker 8: of games right here. So yeah, I'm gonna tip my

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Speaker 8: cap here to the Suns. You know. Eighteen game win streak.

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Speaker 8: Eighteen game win streak, Yeah, talking about is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I likely did it crazy.

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Speaker 8: I feel like they had it, and I've been batching

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Speaker 1: I thought I had it.

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Speaker 8: I thought I had it locked in Hereith can be

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Speaker 1: You're right, we were thinking we were joking sort of

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Speaker 8: It turns out that's that's right. Yeah, but yeah, I'll

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Speaker 8: get the Suns my choice. Eighteen games in a row.

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Speaker 8: That's incredible. They've struggled a little bit in the past

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Speaker 8: That hasn't been the case. They just look like a

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, has come back to believe the That's a huge

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Speaker 3: Yes, but I would pick the Warriors. I think the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: Definitely picking because to me, it's like, also like which

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent agree with that. You know, we don't

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Speaker 3: It's Spursy, it's Jazzy as it's Bucksy. Over the last

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Speaker 8: Biggest surprise physically and mentally For me, it's got to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are sync today.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're fist pumping like crazy over here. People were

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Speaker 1: Come on for me, But it's not that bad.

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Speaker 8: I think they were more worried because Lee left task hanging,

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Speaker 8: They even had success with Lowry markin and playing the three.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and guys like Brandon Clark, who's also been very

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they missed their best player for a quarter

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Speaker 7: will get there, but I think they look at where

436
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Speaker 7: the Eastern Conference dans are right now and think, this

437
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,159
Speaker 7: is a good young team we've got, We've got a

438
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Speaker 7: way that's winning. That should be at least what we're

439
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Speaker 7: aiming for sure.

440
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they just want to let's get

441
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Speaker 1: our young guys in Garland, Allen and Mobley into a

442
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Speaker 1: playoff series. I mean, that's just awesome experience. Get some reps.

443
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Speaker 1: Even if you lose in six or whatever in a

444
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Speaker 1: first round series as the fifth or six or whatever seed,

445
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Speaker 1: that's okay. Because you've got to get into those like

446
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Speaker 1: pressure pack moments and see how those guys handle it

447
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Speaker 1: and for see that's a lot that's absolutely.

448
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's where they should be able. There are two

449
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 7: games back of the Bucks. Now, you think the Bucks

450
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 7: are going to get better the nets as well the heat,

451
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Speaker 7: so it's going to be tough. But from what they've

452
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Speaker 7: shown us so far. Next yeah, yeah, then it's not

453
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Speaker 7: like they you know, they're eight games back or anything

454
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Speaker 7: like that. Think a couple of things go right for

455
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Speaker 7: them and they could be there, especially with so many

456
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Speaker 7: teams being affected. The Sixers are ahead of them right well,

457
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 7: actually the Sixers, they're tied with them right now. But

458
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,360
Speaker 7: the Sixers it's a little unclear exactly how good they're

459
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Speaker 7: going to be for the second half of the season.

460
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Speaker 3: We've talked about the Calfs so much that I called JB.

461
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Speaker 3: Bickerstaff Bernie Bickerstaff. Yeah, none of us caught it exactly.

462
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Speaker 3: We've said it's so. I even made a very timely

463
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Speaker 3: Weekend at Bernie's joke when I said it, and nobody

464
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Speaker 3: called it out, either for the joke or for for

465
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Speaker 3: saying that sometimes it doesn't like But I called him

466
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Speaker 3: Bernie bicker Staff. It's a name that has been in

467
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Speaker 3: NBA history.

468
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Speaker 8: So that stand for junior Bernie.

469
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Speaker 3: I think it might probably probably, I think it just

470
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Speaker 3: doesn't want to go by Bernie john Ble really.

471
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Speaker 8: Junior Bernie.

472
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Speaker 1: To me, it's bigger staff, like.

473
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Speaker 3: Two Blair's in two days. By the way, had a Blair.

474
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Speaker 1: Rass is bigger staff. The front runner for coach of

475
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Speaker 1: the Year. I know it's not the sexiest ward in.

476
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Speaker 6: The world, but Taylor Jenkins you think so. Grizzlies are

477
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Speaker 6: in third, yeah, per Calves. We're talking about cats so much.

478
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Speaker 6: They're a game out of the seventh spot in the

479
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Speaker 6: Eastern Conference. The Hornets are right there.

480
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Speaker 8: You know, w''s something a good week and a bad

481
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Speaker 8: week is going to mean a lot in the second

482
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Speaker 8: half of this season. It's a blood bath from like

483
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Speaker 8: six through twelve in the East. But the Grizzlies are

484
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Speaker 8: running away with a home court advantage and they missed

485
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Speaker 8: their best player for a quarter of the season. Actually,

486
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Speaker 8: Taylor Jenkins is the guy.

487
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Speaker 1: The counter to that is, Taylor Jenkins hasn't been there

488
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Speaker 1: like for the last five game, and like all these

489
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Speaker 1: coaches that they have just filling in they continue to win.

490
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Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, of course. Yeah, he's probably at the top. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 1: Bigger Staft's gonna get some votes. Bernie Junior, Bernie and

492
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Speaker 1: John Blair. All right, next question, let's flip it on

493
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Speaker 1: its head here halfway mark.

494
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Speaker 7: Biggest disappointment staying very close to home here at the

495
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Speaker 7: Atlanta Hawks. They've been dismal, dismal. The season started off

496
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Speaker 7: great down at the Fortress. I was there first game.

497
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Speaker 7: We won by We won by thirty against the Dallas Mavericks.

498
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Speaker 1: They look great.

499
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Speaker 7: I thought, this is exactly what I wanted to see,

500
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Speaker 7: like a convincing victory at home, just that carry on

501
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Speaker 7: from last season. And it started off great and they

502
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 7: were eating one at home at one point. Now they've

503
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Speaker 7: lost nine in a row down at the Fortress. But

504
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Speaker 7: their defense has just been abysmal. Offense dismal, dismal and abysmal.

505
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Speaker 7: Their offense is deceptive. I think it's fourth in the

506
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Speaker 7: league right now. I mean, but it just doesn't mean

507
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 7: anything if the other team is their offense is so

508
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 7: much better than your defense. And that's the problem here

509
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Speaker 7: with the Hawks. They made the trade yesterday for Cam Reddish.

510
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 7: Now we discussed it, and we think there's something more

511
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Speaker 7: happening there, because that can't be the move. You get

512
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Speaker 7: a guy who's not even really going to play and

513
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Speaker 7: a first round pick in from the next so there's

514
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Speaker 7: got to be something else here. Travis Schlank has talked

515
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Speaker 7: about it. He's addressed it's like, yeah, this is not working.

516
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 7: They need to They need to figure out what they're

517
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Speaker 7: doing going forward. Is John Collins a part of this future?

518
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Speaker 7: They signed him to a nice extension in the offseason.

519
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 7: I think he should be, but maybe not. Maybe they're like,

520
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Speaker 7: you know what, we need to mix it up a

521
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Speaker 7: little bit here. But just Trey Young had the fifty

522
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Speaker 7: six point game against the Portland Trailblazer as it came

523
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Speaker 7: in a loss. He's been okay. I think he's been

524
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Speaker 7: I think he's been decent actually, but that's about it. Offensively,

525
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Speaker 7: he's been back to sort of his best. I think

526
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Speaker 7: he becomes I think he will be an All Star.

527
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Speaker 7: But that's it for the Hawks. Otherwise, it's been very,

528
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 7: very bad season for them. They need to make some

529
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Speaker 7: changes because they are not even close to the playing

530
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Speaker 7: tournament right now, and that will be a complete disaster.

531
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Speaker 7: Considering they made the Eastern Conference Finals and led the

532
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Speaker 7: Milwaukee Bucks one zero last season.

533
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, very disappointing. I think the Hawks will

534
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Speaker 1: be on a lot of people's list here. Are there

535
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Speaker 1: any other teams that come to mind?

536
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Speaker 3: Well, I wonder, you know, we'll get to the trade

537
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Speaker 3: a little bit later, but if the Hawks are making

538
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Speaker 3: a little addition by subtraction with the Cam redish, I'm

539
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Speaker 3: high on Cam, super high on Camp. But the reports

540
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Speaker 3: yesterday camps I cam which we knew, which we knew,

541
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Speaker 3: and the way he shoots the ball when he comes out,

542
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: he's confident in himself. But maybe there was a locker

543
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 3: room riff going on. We'll get into that a little

544
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Speaker 3: bit more. Looking forward to more Cam talk. But as

545
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Speaker 3: far as this one was, I jumped a deer in Fox.

546
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Speaker 3: I know he's your man, just as an individual player,

547
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Speaker 3: it's I don't I don't want to compare him because

548
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: it's not right. But you look at John Morant and

549
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: how he's grown, you know, young player, and you think

550
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 3: Fox is not necessarily on the same trajectory, but not

551
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: on a downward trajectories. He just he's can obviously get

552
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Speaker 3: to any spot he wants on the floor. He's super

553
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Speaker 3: duper fast. And that's that's where the comparison out with

554
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Speaker 3: joh has to come in a little bit for me. Uh,

555
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Speaker 3: watching him on the floor and the shooting hasn't gone well,

556
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: the the body language hasn't gone well. Brutal defense has

557
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 3: so much better.

558
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but then again places for the Kings, and is

559
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Speaker 1: he already at the point of his career like, give

560
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Speaker 1: me the hell out of here?

561
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

562
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he signed this a big deal, yeah right.

563
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Speaker 3: Right, yes, yes, but he's not playing with Pride. Yeah

564
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Speaker 3: so yeah, maybe it changes if he gets dealt.

565
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Speaker 7: But from three yeah, uh, for for the why the

566
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 7: game's played. Has a point guard these days that should

567
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 7: be way hot. He had one good year yeah yeah,

568
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Speaker 7: in his second season there so, but but that's thing

569
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 7: that should be improving, even if it is only incrementally.

570
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 7: Not taking a huge sit back like that.

571
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he should be respectable. Three of his

572
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: other three of his four previous years were you know,

573
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Speaker 3: respectable Westbrook levels at least. Now it's you know, way

574
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: way lower.

575
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're going with a player, do you, fox Man? Wow,

576
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Speaker 1: that hurts right right here. But as for teams, Trey, again,

577
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Speaker 1: I said the Hawks. I think the Blazers are probably

578
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Speaker 1: in the mix. The Lakers definitely. We're a five hundred team,

579
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Speaker 1: and the Celtics are basically a five hundred team, right am,

580
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Speaker 1: I Is there anyone I'm missing? Or would you go

581
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Speaker 1: with one of those?

582
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Speaker 8: I think you hit on all of them. The Blazers,

583
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Speaker 8: for me, I had him kind of struggling to make

584
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Speaker 8: the play in tournament coming into the season, just because

585
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 8: they're a super shallow team and a lot of their

586
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 8: success last year was Dame Lillard being incredible in Dame time.

587
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Speaker 8: That hasn't been the case this year. Obviously, he's been

588
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 8: missing time as well, and with him missing time, with

589
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Speaker 8: McCollum missing time, they just don't have enough players to

590
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Speaker 8: be competitive in the Western Conference. Celtics, they're the same

591
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Speaker 8: team they were last year. Like, I think we're seeing

592
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Speaker 8: that you can change your coach, but the thing that

593
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 8: really matters is your players. Same thing happened with the Pacers,

594
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 8: same thing happen with the Kings, right Like, it's all

595
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Speaker 8: about the players that you've got to do something else

596
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Speaker 8: besides just your coaches. So the other, only other one

597
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Speaker 8: I would throw into the mix has got to be

598
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Speaker 8: the Pelicans because they had such a bad start one

599
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 8: in twelve to start the season, but they've been winning

600
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Speaker 8: games ever since. They're up to sixteen and twenty six now.

601
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Speaker 8: But if you lose twelve of your first thirteen games,

602
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 8: you're really behind the April so we haven't seen Zion yet.

603
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 8: Brandon Ingram has been playing great, but it's hard to

604
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Speaker 8: make up that kind of a deficit, even though this

605
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 8: is a long season, and you know, maybe with the

606
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 8: Blazers falling off, they'll have a chance to get in there.

607
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Speaker 8: It's gonna be a Minnesota, Sacramento and New Orleans going

608
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Speaker 8: for the tenth seed in the Western Conference. Let's circle

609
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 8: back in April to say who is the most disappointing team,

610
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Speaker 8: and we can choose one of those two that doesn't

611
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Speaker 8: make it.

612
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Speaker 3: And that's and then you see some of these stats,

613
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Speaker 3: some of these five man lineup stats, and the Pelicans

614
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: have the sixth best one in the league with with

615
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Speaker 3: you know, they found the right players. No, I mean

616
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: to say, Herb is found into the mix. You know,

617
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 3: DeVante Graham, Josh Hart in the backcourt, Herb and then

618
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: Ingram and Jonas Valanciunas. It's a good starting lineup, but

619
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Speaker 3: then even the Blazers have a good one as well.

620
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: But number one, do they play enough minutes you know,

621
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: aka also known as injuries and then and then you

622
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: know the bench coming in as well. So uh, it's

623
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: they found some chemistry there in New Orleans though, so

624
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: hopefully they can turn it around.

625
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Speaker 1: Of all the teams, because you picked Fox, is there

626
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Speaker 1: one that like jumps out to you as the most

627
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: disappointing team of those ones? Maybe I threw a Tray Well, yeah,

628
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: like Celtics. You and I were like higher on the

629
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: Celtics maybe than some people. Yeah, like Trey, I thought

630
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: I thought last year was just like, ugh, it was

631
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: one of those brutal years. Disappointing. But they'll get back

632
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: to sort of who they were, the levels they had

633
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: been playing years prior. Maybe the new coach, you know,

634
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: just some a fresh voice in the locker room will

635
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: change things up. And it hasn't really Tray's right, but

636
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: I thought it would.

637
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 3: For sure, no doubt. And the Lakers is well, just

638
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 3: because they're in the friggin' headlines day in and day out,

639
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: but also just on the floor, not giving enough on

640
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: the defensive end, you know, it's all on Anthony Davis's

641
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: sort of shoulders. But as if we've mentioned on the show,

642
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, they've been the number one

643
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: defense in the league, so you think it would just

644
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: sort of carry over with the same leadership. Even though

645
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: they lost some of their defensive players. They had Dennis

646
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 3: shrewder manning the point last year and they were still

647
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: number one in defense. So yeah, the whole entire team there.

648
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: I think they are just waiting for the second half

649
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: of the season so they will be a little different.

650
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: Next question here NBA halfway mark breakout Performer. I like

651
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: this one, Trey, Where are you going?

652
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 8: There's only two candidates, and it all comes down to age.

653
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 8: If you're a young guy. It's John Moranton. He could

654
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 8: win MVP this season. It's not out of the cards.

655
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 8: I don't think. I mean, Steph we said he was

656
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 8: a runaway winner. People have caught up. I mean Giannis

657
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 8: is going to be part of in the mix. Of course,

658
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 8: Kevin Durant's going to be in the mix, but I

659
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 8: mean Jow's making his case right now, and this is

660
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 8: really the Derek Rose season for him, a huge jump

661
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 8: in respect around the league and just control on the

662
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 8: court and his approach to the game. Derek Row's on

663
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 8: MVP his third season, Jock could and I don't know

664
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 8: it's either that or the O one iverson season if

665
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 8: you want to compare it to that, where there's one

666
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 8: guy whose force of personality just lifts everybody else. So

667
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 8: that's what's happening. The other one is DeMar Derozen for

668
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 8: the old guys, He's never had this much buzz in

669
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 8: his NBA career. When he was making All Star teams

670
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 8: with the Raptors, he was a one point five guy there.

671
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 8: I think we all would say that Kyle Lowry was

672
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 8: the leader of that team. But DeRozan has become the

673
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 8: leader for the Bulls team. Even though Zach Lavine's having

674
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 8: a good season, DeRozan is in the mix for MVP

675
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 8: as well, hit a bunch of clutch shots, great fourth

676
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 8: quarter scorer, and everybody now appreciates what he's done to

677
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 8: grow his game, both with the Raptors and what he

678
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 8: did with the Spurs, becoming a really solid playmaker. So

679
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 8: I think that everything has just kind of worked out

680
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 8: well for DeRozan to like really be I appreciated this

681
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 8: year now that the Bulls are doing well and people

682
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 8: are seeing the full complement of his game.

683
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and entering that huge market has obviously helped. He's

684
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: number one in All Star voting, which is shocking to me. Yeah.

685
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: You mentioned like at the beginning of the season, if

686
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: you said the Grizzlies are at this mark, of course

687
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: not but also damar being number one in voting, Yeah,

688
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 3: I would be incredibly shocked. Looking back to his Toronto tenure,

689
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: I went back and just wondered, how high did he get?

690
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: How high do you think he got a start voting

691
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: All Star voting? No, like at his best, he got

692
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: way better. He got second. Surprised, surprised he voted among fans.

693
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 3: So I don't know if I'm just h people really do,

694
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: but I didn't know. But it is shocking to see

695
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: him number one with a bullet like he's absolutely up there.

696
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: And and similarly, John Morant is now number two after

697
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: the second returns have come out, small market Memphis Grizzlies

698
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: gamerate that that is he Chee passed Luca for that

699
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: is that is phenomenal.

700
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: Those are two great great selections there for breakout performance.

701
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: It's like the cream of the crop, the top here

702
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: with John Branton de Rozan. Is there anyone else that

703
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: you think has had a really good.

704
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 7: For US happening, Like who's most improved so far? Yeah, well,

705
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 7: I would say a couple of guys. I think Desmond

706
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 7: Bain has been really really good for the Grizzlies, you know,

707
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 7: shooting the ball so well, great defensive player, he's sort

708
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 7: of taking a step up as a mature age second

709
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 7: year guy. And then Tyler Hero has been I mean

710
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 7: he's been to the Finals. He's had some good moments

711
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 7: in the bubble there, but.

712
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: That was two years ago.

713
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know, as far as a breakout start,

714
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 7: I mean, he's he's definitely in the mix for for

715
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 7: the All Star Game right now coming off the bench.

716
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: I think he's probably the sixth Man of the Year

717
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: front runner right now.

718
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 7: So I think those two guys have been the ones

719
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 7: who have been pretty consistent for their teams in sort

720
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 7: of like being that second start. I mean the thing

721
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 7: with the heat is, you know, Bam has been out

722
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 7: for so long, Jimmy Butler's missed so much time, so

723
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 7: on the basis of games played, Tyler may have been

724
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 7: their best player this season, you know, just on that

725
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 7: so they and they are second in the Eastern Conference

726
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 7: right now, the Miami kag.

727
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: Sorry, they're being overlooked for sure in terms of just

728
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: like their win loss record because of all those things.

729
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: He said, I have Tyler Hero on my short list too.

730
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: He might be in the running for Most Improved too.

731
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: I wonder will we ever get to a point where

732
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: a player just wants to rack up most Improved wins?

733
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: So they have an awesome year and then they wait,

734
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: so they have a bad year, I should say, then

735
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: they have an awesome year, they win Most Improved, but

736
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: then they purposely tank their next year, chuck it off

737
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: the glass, throw it out of bounds, like they just

738
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: play like ship, but then slipping around and try it again.

739
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 7: That'd be the lung can though, would like, I'm gonna

740
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 7: be really good these I'm just gonna suck next week.

741
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: No one has won to Most Improves. I mean, you

742
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: can't really come on, was in the running for remember

743
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: in back to vacinely for a month.

744
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 9: Yah.

745
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: But that's the that's the thing.

746
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 7: Let's not get into the busiest stop to a superstar

747
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 7: or is he just yeah, that's there's levels to this exactly.

748
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So Tyler hero. Yeah, you said, Desmond Bain, what

749
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: about you?

750
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: Well, I'll jump jaw. Is the one Adam Reid in

751
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: the stream team throws in it. It's Lance Stevenson. Come on,

752
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: oh yeah, of the last two weeks kind of breakout,

753
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 3: I mean breakout from g leaguer to scoring his most

754
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: points in an Indiana Pacers uniform.

755
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Just want I mean, you can put that down for

756
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: the next question. Best moment might be Lance Stevenson. Uh

757
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: steal in the headlines of that debt skin.

758
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: And one is everybody's gonna be wearing in one shoes

759
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: So you're going jam yes, yes, again. It's so great

760
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 3: to see him at the top of the ballot, very

761
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 3: near the top of the All Star ballot at number two.

762
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: I love, I love the small market love.

763
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: I'll throw a couple other names. I think it had

764
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: really awesome first half, so maybe surprise some people. Fred

765
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: van Vliet, I mean we knew Van Vliet was good.

766
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean he got a finals m VP from hum

767
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: Be Brown, But I was skeptical whether this guy could

768
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: actually be the number one guy when it comes like

769
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: scoring the ball and setting the table and still playing

770
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: great defense for a team and he's like proven me

771
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: and maybe a lot of people wrong. It's crazy this

772
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: guy just when you're like, okay, he has hit his peak.

773
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: There is no way this guy could possibly go to

774
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: another level. Well, here he is, and he's in an

775
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: All Star consideration and he probably will make it at

776
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: this point with the Raptors record, you know, improving. So

777
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: I got Van vleet down. I put Anthony Edwards second,

778
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: your player just having like a you know, shooting the

779
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: ball so much more consistently. You know, if you watched

780
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: the broadcast last night, I don't know if you guys

781
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: watched the Grizzlies on the call, you know Trey has

782
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: said this before, but I had never heard it. On

783
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: the broadcast. They're like, this is Anthony Edwards team, like

784
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: it will be if it's not already. I mean, currlyly

785
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: Down's on the team. He's a damn good player, is

786
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: an All NBA guy and an All Star guy. And

787
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: even like, you know it's it was Brevin knight on

788
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: who is at Pete on the Grizzlies call. But they're

789
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: like saying, like it's just a matter of time if

790
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: it's not there already, which is pretty wild. When you

791
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: think about it, and they might be true. I think

792
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: so it would be right.

793
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: I wonder what our friends Dave and Jim Dave Ben's

794
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: and Jim Peterson are saying on the Wolves call. I know,

795
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: but but you.

796
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: Saw at the end of the game, so it was

797
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: he's damn good already. I mean, he should be. He's

798
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: a number one pick like this shouldn't be surprising.

799
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 8: But Towns though, Yeah, but Towns takes a back seat

800
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 8: in the fourth corner, so no doubt. Yeah this is Anthony.

801
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, So I got him there and then you know,

802
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: a little bit lower down the I guess the talent level.

803
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: Jyllen Brunson has been awesome for the Dallas Mavericks, you know,

804
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: especially when Luca was out there. He was doing a

805
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: fantastic job sort of keeping them afloat. So he's, uh,

806
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid, and so I think.

807
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the year. I just I don't want

808
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: you to get too excited about the Fred van Vliet

809
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: being an All Star, though obviously he deserves it.

810
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: It could feel pretty confident about it.

811
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if there was I don't know if

812
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: the coaches pick him.

813
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: So he's gonna get overlooked. There's gonna be too much

814
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: love for a Lamello and a Darius Garland and a

815
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: Tyler Herro maybe.

816
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: And Celtic can sneak in because of the history there.

817
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 3: They've Jason Tatum has been an all start, Jaylen Brown

818
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: is doing some crazy things. It's it's it's easy, I

819
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: think to overlook the Fred van Vliet season for some

820
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 3: I think I just you know, right now, obviously everybody

821
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: can ride it. We're riding it, We're feeling good. He's

822
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 3: playing out of his head. But when it comes to

823
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: the fifteen coaches when they pick, I guess it's all

824
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: thirty coaches picked both conferences. That's a great question. Or

825
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: do just the East pick the East?

826
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it is. It's only the

827
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: pick the East.

828
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: Okay, So I guess it's the fourteen coaches because because

829
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: the coaches can't pick their own guy anyway.

830
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: That does he go, I do to I.

831
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 8: Think he's a lock.

832
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: He's a lock.

833
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: Bet on him. You got a bet on Fred Fred did?

834
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 8: So?

835
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. He continues to like it's unbelievable, it's

836
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: get yeah, exactly. He's at the crafts table he's hot man. Yeah,

837
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: just like do whatever he's doing. He's gotta going all right,

838
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: final question here, NBA halfway mark. Best moment. You can

839
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: go anywhere you want with this task.

840
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: I won't get cute. I will lead with the leader,

841
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: Steph Curry becoming the three point King. It's a memorable one.

842
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: I didn't think of that one, to be honest.

843
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I remember that.

844
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: Actually that was last night.

845
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 7: He became the three point King. He break the record

846
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 7: just last night.

847
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: What record? Yeah, I hope we get to a universal

848
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: fist bump here all around the table by the end

849
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: of it.

850
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 8: We all got to agree on a point.

851
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we'll get there. But yeah, not just for

852
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: the moment itself where the game stopped in Madison Square Garden,

853
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 3: but it started before that. It's it was kind of

854
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: a two week event when we were waiting for it

855
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: to happen, and we were all getting a little giddy,

856
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: and it became a little absurd because we thought maybe

857
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: he could break the single game record to break the

858
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: all time record at the same time hit sixteen. Yeah,

859
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: set the record to break the record. We just got

860
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: a little ahead of ourselves. But I love that it

861
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: also showed Steph as human because he started pressing, he

862
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 3: started pushing. He said it afterwards that those games against

863
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: Orlando when we thought he could hit sixteen threes and

864
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 3: you know, leading up to the Madison Square Garden moment.

865
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: So that was that was nice. And then the moment itself,

866
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: I thought was a lot of the times I don't

867
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: remember any of these moments when we when we stop

868
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 3: and look at NBA history Ray passing Reggie, I did

869
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: not remember that. Had to go look it up. But yeah,

870
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: the play stopped, the Warriors committed a foul, Steph got

871
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: the ball, was very emotional, Hug dad, Hug mom. The

872
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: NBA made it a three and a half minute break

873
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 3: and two and a half minute break they stretched it out.

874
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 3: Was in Madison Square gardens, so it all worked out well.

875
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: And yeah, Steph was extremely you know, emotional and obviously demonstrative.

876
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 3: So yes, I'd say.

877
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: Steph, Okay, where are you going? Best moment?

878
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 7: Let me ask you a question. Do you think Kevin

879
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 7: Durant regrets not going?

880
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god? The first it was runch.

881
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: That's got to get a first.

882
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: H.

883
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean just the whole game, double overtime game,

884
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 7: great stuff.

885
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: And then the Knicks fans just bringing it afterwards.

886
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 7: And then they had another incredible game against the Celtics,

887
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 7: coming back from twenty.

888
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: Four down, r J Barrett hitting the banked in game winner.

889
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 7: So there's been some great moments, but I think we

890
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 7: got off to a I stopped it with that video

891
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 7: that game and fans back in the Goden and everything.

892
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: It was great. Okay, Wow, I didn't think of that,

893
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: What about you?

894
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 8: I had bing Bong number one on my list, especially

895
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 8: with the sequel, Like you're saying, that was the game

896
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 8: when Julius Randall was fans back right, A lot was happening.

897
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 8: I had a staff was on my list as well.

898
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 8: I would add DeRozan hitting back to back game winners

899
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 8: on the thirty first and the first uh. The other

900
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 8: two I would add is Jah Morant's blocking up with

901
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 8: his armpit at the American flag on the backboard, and

902
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 8: the last would be Dirk Novinsky's jersey retirement with that

903
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 8: beautiful statue. Yeah, that was a great jersey retirement. Even

904
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 8: Adam Silver's like, I've been to a lot of these,

905
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 8: nobody does it like the Mavericks. I thought it was awesome.

906
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: You know.

907
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 8: They started with a like a performance that had a

908
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 8: drum line and a symphony and a dude just wailing

909
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 8: on guitar. I was like, they're putting every form of

910
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 8: music into one form of music here only. And it

911
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 8: just kept getting better and better after that. So that's

912
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 8: my top five for great moments so far the season.

913
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: Those are great. The only ones I would add. Clay

914
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: Thompson's return was pretty cool. You know, it would have sure,

915
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: it would have been better if he popped off for

916
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: like you know, twenty five or thirty or hit ten threes. Yeah,

917
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: but it was still it was really cool, like all

918
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: the videos and all the articles that we saw in

919
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: the Athletic and stuff like that, and how emotional he

920
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: was coming back. So I'd had that. And then, just

921
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: in terms of pure craziness on the floor, DeVante Graham's

922
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: sixty footer they banked in after Shay Gilder was Andrew

923
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: hit some crazy thirty footer to tie it up against

924
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: the Pelicans, I think has to be included. I was

925
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, yeah, you know, it wasn't even that

926
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: long ago, really, was it. So that's what I would

927
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: throw on there. But yeah, I had the block as

928
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: well from John rant and I had the Rosens game

929
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: winners back to back too. But let's hear from everybody

930
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: out there, that's a fun one best moment from the

931
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: first halfway point or up to the first What am

932
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: I trying to say from the first is all I

933
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: was trying to say. I wanted to add the word

934
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: marking point in there, but I don't know why I

935
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: was jamming it. I do have a trivia question though,

936
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: for you, awesome before we take our first break. So

937
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: nobody said for their best moment, Trey Young going for

938
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: fifty six points? Fair enough? Like I mean, the Hawks

939
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: have been sort of very disappointing, as we talked about,

940
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 1: but can you guys name the six guys this season?

941
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: Trey already one of them, so five left to score

942
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: forty seven points or more.

943
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: This season?

944
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: Steph scored fifty, Anthony Edwards he scored forty eight. Yeah,

945
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: good job. We have Trey with the fifty six. He's

946
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: the leader.

947
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 8: There's Ayson Tatum, no Jalen Brown fifty.

948
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: You got a fifty. You have one more guy that

949
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: scored over fifty, and then you've got a forty seven,

950
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: which is maybe probably the most difficult to remember. But

951
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: these are great, great players, and they're in the restaurant.

952
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 7: I'll give you that embiid No Kevin.

953
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 3: Durant fifty one from KD Oh, forgot about that, yep.

954
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 8: And then one more guy forty seven is a top one,

955
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 8: you said, Yeah, I mean, like, just.

956
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: Why would you remember a forty seven point game? This

957
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: guy if he's at the title. Oh, he's at the table,

958
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: he not ilkicic embiid not embeid Yannis Yannis forty seven

959
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: point game. Yeah, he's good, good, he's good. You probably

960
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: had twenty boards in that game too, and a assists

961
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: and ford locks or something like that. Uh, there we go,

962
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: because I know you have trivia coming up late. I lit, yes,

963
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: get the juice to slow, get the juice to slow.

964
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: On all right, Okay, guys, we're gonna take our first break.

965
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll talk a little bit more

966
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: about the Hawk's Knicks trade. You got the top five,

967
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: we still got rapid fire, so don't go anywhere, all right. Yesterday,

968
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawks traded forwards Cam Reddish and Solomon Hill

969
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: and a twenty twenty five second round pick to the

970
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: New York Knicks for forward Kevin Knox and a protected

971
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two first round pick by way of Charlotte.

972
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: If you want to hear our immediate reaction to the trade,

973
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: check out the ten minute or eleven minute video we

974
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: posted on the Nodongks YouTube channel yesterday where we all

975
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: wighed in. But we've had some time to think about it. Tasks.

976
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: You know, have you changed your opinion of the Knicks

977
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: acquiring Reddish and the Hawks getting a pick and why

978
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: they got a pick here and what they're doing next

979
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: if they are well.

980
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: I was high on the Knicks getting Cam Reddish. I

981
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: see the potential there, and the idea of Cam Reddish

982
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: is better than what he's shown on the floor. He's

983
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: the type of player you can get excited for in

984
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 3: NBA history. He's got a he's got one of those

985
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: you know, the typical three and D body out there

986
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 3: is ridiculously athletic. You know, it's like one of those

987
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: guys in NBA history, like you're Anthony Ryan Dahls, Like

988
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: this guy can do it all, and so I get

989
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: pumped for him. These articles that have come out in

990
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: the last twelve hours from Chris Kershner at The Athletic

991
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: basically saying he didn't want to be there. He wanted

992
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: a bigger role and he was a problem in the

993
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: locker room. Maybe there's a touch of that, but a

994
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: lot of reports about John Collins saying same thing, and

995
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: even you know, to some degree, Trey Young as well.

996
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: So if I'm the next I take a chance on

997
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: him and this first round pick coming back, you'd think

998
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 3: that the Hawks could get maybe a touch more, But

999
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: as we said yesterday, maybe not. I hope it is

1000
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: for a next step, though. I hope it's a prelude

1001
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: for the Hawks to make another move. They get a

1002
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: first round pick to treade something, because it doesn't really

1003
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: make sense to me to just set on this first

1004
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: round pick when you're an all key team.

1005
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: What do you think.

1006
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 7: Well, if he wanted his way out of Atlanta, he

1007
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 7: got it, and he goes to the New York Knicks,

1008
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 7: where the expectations from that crowd there will be immediate,

1009
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 7: like he has to go and make an impact in

1010
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 7: the challenge for cam Radish will be if he wants

1011
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 7: more shots, fine, that's one thing, but what's he going

1012
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 7: to do in the meantime Because he's not a great rebounder,

1013
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 7: he doesn't really facilitate the offense. In fact, he's had

1014
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 7: more turnovers throughout his career than assists, So you know

1015
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 7: it's not something he's got to add something to his

1016
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 7: game to make himself valuable. When he's not shooting or scoring,

1017
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 7: we know he does like to shoot that ball. I

1018
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 7: remember down there the first game of the season against

1019
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 7: the MAVs, he came out firing. He was firing away.

1020
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 7: So he wants to show that he can be a

1021
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 7: guy with instant offense off the bench. That's understandable. Lot

1022
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 7: of guys want that, but you also have to show

1023
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 7: you can do more than just that. When you when

1024
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 7: the SHOT's not falling, when are you playing defense? Are

1025
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 7: you out there helping out the guys and do that.

1026
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 7: I don't think he's proven that so far. I think

1027
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 7: it's it's certainly the upside there is that you feel

1028
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 7: like this guy could be good, but he's really going

1029
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 7: to show it, and it's going to be tough for

1030
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 7: him with coach Tibodeaux and in New York City.

1031
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna have to prove he can at least

1032
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: try a little bit on defense. If he's gonna play

1033
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: for tips.

1034
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 8: I would think one hundred percent he's gonna have to

1035
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 8: play defense because he's not going to have the ball,

1036
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 8: because the Knicks have a ton of guys who have

1037
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 8: the ball in their hands already. Julius Randall handles the

1038
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 8: ball all the time off the bench. It's gonna be

1039
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 8: Rose or quickly Kemba Walker will eventually come back. That's

1040
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 8: a guy who plays with the ball in his hands.

1041
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 8: Even Fournier and r. J. Barrett is best as a driver,

1042
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 8: I would argue. So it seems to me cam Reddish

1043
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 8: is going to be playing the same role he played

1044
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 8: in Atlanta. Obviously that's not what he wants because he's

1045
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 8: gonna be coming up for his second contract pretty soon,

1046
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 8: so hopefully it works out. You know, they could certainly

1047
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 8: use some wing help. I would rather be trying out

1048
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 8: Cam Reddish than sticking with Alec Burks if I'm the Knicks,

1049
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 8: just because you know, the theoretical ceiling of cam Reddish

1050
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 8: is more interesting to me than Alec Burks at this

1051
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 8: point in his career. And I think it's going to

1052
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,959
Speaker 8: end up all right for the Hawks as well. John

1053
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 8: Collins should get some more touches, and I think that

1054
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 8: you would rather give touches to John Collins than Cam

1055
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 8: Reddish as well. If you're Atlanta, hopefully there's another move

1056
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 8: for the Hawks Claire and a roster spot here and

1057
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 8: also adding to the to the asset chest for some

1058
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 8: sort of move that they might make in the future.

1059
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 8: But I think perhaps this could be a little bit

1060
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 8: of addiction by subtraction, just being able to make John

1061
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 8: Collins a little bit happier getting the ball more often

1062
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 8: as well.

1063
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: Zilla in his newsletter this morning, he you know that

1064
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: idea about getting a pick and what does that mean?

1065
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: What's the next move that the Hawks are going to make.

1066
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: And he's wondering if it's if it's not for Ben Simmons,

1067
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: who is it. Because Simmons brings excuse me, Zilla brings

1068
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: a good point. It's like, in theory, the Sixers want players,

1069
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: not picks. Right now, maybe they're not in love with

1070
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: Cam Reddish and maybe this isn't even happening. But then

1071
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: Zilla goes on to throw out a couple other potential

1072
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: names teams that are basically tanking or bad that you

1073
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: could use a pick or two to then get this player,

1074
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant from the Pistons. He chucks out there, Christian

1075
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: would let's say from the Rockets, he says Eric Gordon,

1076
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: but he's like, you're probably not trading a first round

1077
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: pick even if it's protected for Eric Gordon at this point, buddy, Heal,

1078
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: here's some Barnes. You know, maybe this this is something

1079
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: that the Hawks are thinking here.

1080
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: I have not been tantalized if I'm Travishlank by any

1081
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 3: of you those names. Right, So maybe it's a three

1082
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: team deal where you are appealing to a team who's

1083
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: rebuilding with the first round pick to swing it around

1084
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 3: to get Ben Simmons. Right because of all those names,

1085
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: the Hawks are trying to upgrade in terms of their

1086
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 3: talent level as well, I think, And so that's got

1087
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 3: to be their move. And they still have a glut

1088
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: of players as well. Yeah, John Collins will get more touches.

1089
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 3: They in theory want DeAndre Hunter to be more have

1090
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: more touches. Bog Dan still there, herd are still there,

1091
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 3: so they could still package more players. They want an upgrade,

1092
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: and I don't think it's a lateral move, which would

1093
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: I think would be Barns and those types of guys.

1094
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: The other great point from Zilla was why didn't the

1095
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: Hawks wait until next week to do this because the

1096
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: Hawks play the Knicks this Saturday. Yeah, and are we

1097
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: are we due for a Cam Reddish revenge game against Atlanta.

1098
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna come out fired, and if he

1099
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: gets in there.

1100
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 8: That's probably why they did.

1101
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: It, right. Yeah, helps a whole Yeah, so he's gonna

1102
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: just take a million shots, that's true, true, as long

1103
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: as he doesn't pop off for thirty because he has

1104
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: those games where he does actually doesn't.

1105
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, he had that one great game in the playoffs.

1106
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 8: He's seven from off the top of my head. I

1107
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 8: think that was at one here down at the Fortress.

1108
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure I was. He's had maybe one or

1109
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 8: two big, big games here for the Hawks this season,

1110
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 8: so it happens once in a blue his big game

1111
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 8: stick out. Yeah, that's what I'll say about Cam Reddish.

1112
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 8: You remember the flashes much more than you remember the

1113
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 8: fact that he has more turnovers than his than assists

1114
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 8: in his career and this season you don't want him

1115
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 8: handling the ball, which I think is the problem is

1116
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 8: he wants himself handling the ball. There was that report

1117
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 8: from Chris Kirshner preseason where he says, I need to

1118
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 8: get back to my old self, I need to play

1119
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 8: like I did when I was in high school.

1120
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: Yikes, let's get to the games. Last night, the Grizzlies

1121
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: won their eleventh straight. They beat the Wolves one sixteen one.

1122
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: Await.

1123
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: This was the closest game of the night, TK and

1124
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: it was it was fun.

1125
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: You know.

1126
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: It was like a little back and forth to get

1127
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I would say, watching this entire game,

1128
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't it was. It was choppy, there was no

1129
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: real great flow to it. But it came down to

1130
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: the wire and obviously the Grizzlies made some timely buckets.

1131
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: What would you.

1132
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 8: Think, well, Skeets, you were talking yesterday, it's getting pretty

1133
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 8: crowded at the MVP table, restaurants filling up. Need to

1134
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 8: make room for John conchar.

1135
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: Judy was litty.

1136
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, last night, Funny had eighteen rebounds. But I saw

1137
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 8: today when I was checking the box score, seventeen boards

1138
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 8: off the bench. Two huge momentum plays in the fourth

1139
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 8: quarter as well. He had a tip dunk to put

1140
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 8: the Grizzlies up with about five minutes left. Then he

1141
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 8: really iced things with a three pointer with a minute left.

1142
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 8: Love to see an Illinois boy out there. That's how

1143
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 8: I thought was a fun game. You're right, it was

1144
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 8: choppy in the first half. But there seems to be

1145
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 8: a little bit of beef between these two teams. You know,

1146
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 8: they're kind of the Grizzlies have certainly surpassed the timber

1147
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 8: Wolves at this point, but you know they were both

1148
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 8: kind of like battling to be in the play in

1149
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 8: last year. They're both youngish teams who are trying to improve.

1150
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 8: And I love Patrick Beverley like trying to get in

1151
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 8: Jahn Moran's head.

1152
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: You can't do it, buddy. I'm sorry, that.

1153
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 8: Guy is unrattleable. And I got to mention it two

1154
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 8: straight losses for the Wolves since Lee had them as

1155
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 8: a winner, and he said, don't worry next Monday, they'll

1156
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 8: be losers on the show.

1157
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 7: It's looking like it smart, Yeah, Patrick Beverley is you

1158
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 7: can't go oero for five from three, one for nine

1159
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 7: from the field and talk trash when your team loses

1160
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 7: a I want to cheer for him, but then there's

1161
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 7: times I'm just like, come on, man, you've got to

1162
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 7: understand you can't be talking trash in this situation to

1163
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 7: Ja who's on thin now. Jo actually didn't have a

1164
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 7: great game last night. This one felt to me like

1165
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 7: it was a scheduled loss almost for the Grizzlies, like

1166
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 7: they can't They had the Warriors there the other night,

1167
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 7: big emotional comeback, they win the game. They've won ten

1168
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 7: in a row. It's like they're just gonna drop one here,

1169
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 7: you know, they're just gonna I thought they were.

1170
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: Gonna lose this game too, Yeah, for good portions of it.

1171
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 7: But then but then they hung on and again to

1172
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 7: get those other contributions. I thought Jaron Jackson again was

1173
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 7: really good for them. Desmond Baine, so it's not just Jarmoran.

1174
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: They're not living in dying by him.

1175
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 7: He went over seven from three point range there last night,

1176
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 7: so yeah.

1177
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: That was nobody could hit a three lanes no, no, no, no, no.

1178
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 7: But but their defense, I continue to be really impressed

1179
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 7: by the way that they just hustle and get out

1180
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 7: and force turnovers and create situations for themselves. That's a really,

1181
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 7: really good skill. They've got towns a couple of times there.

1182
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 7: He gets a ball and they just sort of collapse

1183
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 7: on him and he threw it away or they just

1184
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 7: basically took it off him and went down. So good

1185
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 7: stuff from the from the grizz.

1186
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 1: Anything to add to the Grizzly wol scheme.

1187
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a lot of misses in this scheme.

1188
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 3: Speaking of ald Minnesota Temba, we talked about Sam Mitchell

1189
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 3: this week. He was former after his head coach when

1190
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: he used to say more shots, more shots. He wanted

1191
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: to hoard the raps to get one hundred shots. It

1192
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: almost happened in this game for both teams ninety two

1193
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: and ninety six shots because there was a lot of

1194
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 3: missus and a lot of rebounding. But then, yeah, the

1195
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 3: last six minutes was absolutely entertaining in Memphis to get

1196
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: guys like John contract Deep off the bench. They just

1197
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: keep contributing, and so this is extremely solid for that team.

1198
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: And that's I said the Minnesota Timberwolves earlier in the

1199
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 3: show that they're sort of a surprise team this year.

1200
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: And that's how low the expectations are for this team.

1201
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: They're twenty and twenty two now, and I still sort

1202
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: of positively surprised by this team because they did fight

1203
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: all the way to the end, and Daniel Russell sometimes

1204
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 3: looks good and they I guess they're figuring out their

1205
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: flow there with who's the lead guys at Edwards and

1206
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: Russell and then Karl Anthony Towns kind of fills in.

1207
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: But Patrick Beverley, I'm just not sure. I'm just not

1208
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: sure if you want him on the floor. He does

1209
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: a good thing sometimes and it gets into other people's heads,

1210
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: but it's almost not good for the league at times

1211
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: when he's he's abouts across the line and John Rant

1212
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 3: is the you know, an MVP type player on the

1213
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 3: other side, and that's who he likes to go at

1214
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: the you know, the best of the best, and the

1215
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: line is that it's it's it's blurring, and then Beverly's

1216
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 3: going to cross it at some point. I mean he's

1217
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: you know, obviously in the latter part of his career,

1218
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: but he's one of those guys that if you're Adam Silver,

1219
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 3: you're just kind of watching, like, what is this guy

1220
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: going to do?

1221
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 7: He did it to Chris Paul remember last season in

1222
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 7: the playoffs, where he gave him that big shove from

1223
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 7: behind like that. Now he kind of regretted it, but

1224
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 7: those are the sorts of things.

1225
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 3: That could out Westbrook.

1226
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that was more sort of in

1227
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 7: the moment play. But the thing is with Chris Paul

1228
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 7: as he had time to think about it and go

1229
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 7: up and do it. So yeah, he could do some

1230
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 7: damage because he's Son's time. He just can't seem to

1231
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 7: control himself in those moment.

1232
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: Patrick, Beverly's in your head, Yeah, because there are times,

1233
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: there are times he's talking about Beverly.

1234
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 7: There are times where when he does commit himself defensively.

1235
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,479
Speaker 7: He can be right in the guy's face and cause

1236
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 7: those problems. But then it's like, okay, just stopped the Well,

1237
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 7: then he'll give.

1238
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: It a bit.

1239
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: Sorry, We'll we'll be talking about him like a Matthew Delvadova,

1240
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: you know, at some point, like something that he does

1241
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 3: that takes out a start.

1242
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: How excited were you, Trey, to be honest that we

1243
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: were going to get some big beef there from John Conchart?

1244
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: Were you gonna go with what I suggested on Twitter

1245
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: to you? It sort of doesn't roll off the tongue,

1246
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: but conchar broiled beef.

1247
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 8: I saw that tweet a lot of times last night.

1248
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 8: It looks it's like a dejah Rosen. You know, it

1249
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 8: looks better typed out. I think that it does when

1250
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 8: you say it, But.

1251
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 3: I thought you were talking about fish. I saw it

1252
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: in and you put it in a WhatsApp chat. I

1253
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 3: thought it was a char boiled charboiled, that's right, yeah

1254
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: to Harvey's Harvey's yeah, that's what I think of when

1255
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: I hear char bro establishment.

1256
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: But okay, so did you have anything better chambo?

1257
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 8: No, no, no no. I probably would have gone with

1258
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 8: concharb Royal, but I like it. There was, yeah, there

1259
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 8: was a chance. I was like, he had fifteen boards

1260
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 8: with about five minutes left. It's tough to grab five

1261
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 8: rebounds in five minutes. But there were a lot of

1262
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 8: misses down last night, so there was a chance. But uh,

1263
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 8: I don't know. A bench beef is pretty pretty rare,

1264
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 8: rare charroyal bench.

1265
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: That's what I would have gone. Come on, Johnny. They

1266
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: kept saying this stat as he got closer and closer.

1267
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: It's sort of flirting with twenty The most rebounds off

1268
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: the bench for a Grizzlies player was off the bench

1269
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: sac They say that basically when he was getting so

1270
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: so close to it. But the vibes, I keep saying

1271
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: it are immaculate. With this Grizzly team, You see what

1272
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: they do.

1273
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 8: What do you mean when you say that?

1274
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: I just keep saying it.

1275
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: I just think they they do. They appear to like

1276
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: really be rooting for each other. Again, he was a

1277
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: perfect example, contrat after the game like they're all they

1278
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: all piled on him. My god, that's that's I mean, Look,

1279
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: that happens when you're winning a bunch of games. I

1280
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: get it. They're not alone in this, But I think

1281
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: a part of it is probably they're all the same age,

1282
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: Like they're a young team. They're all in that same ballpark,

1283
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, outside of I guess Adam is a little

1284
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: bit older. Kyle Anderson is a little bit older. But

1285
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's all these guys that are twenty

1286
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: to twenty five. So that's what I mean by that.

1287
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Speaker 1: They just and it's and it's I think what I

1288
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: really truly mean by it is it's John Morant. John

1289
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: Moran is the he's the tone center, as you said,

1290
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: and he's cool as shit. And you know, it's like

1291
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: you get to hang out with the cool guy at school.

1292
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: You get guy.

1293
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I love when all the dorks would get

1294
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 8: to hang out with me. I was really exciting. I

1295
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 8: did love John Conchar's interview post game, Like you're saying

1296
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 8: all the Grizzlies swarmed and they're saying that boy good.

1297
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 8: They asked him about the confidence shooting the ball, and

1298
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 8: he said something along the lines of like, yeah, you know,

1299
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 8: I'm just going out there and trying to take shots

1300
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 8: and make as many as I can.

1301
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds like a hockey player stuff like that. All right.

1302
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: I hate to say make this comparison because NBA basketball

1303
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 3: is way better, but it kind of feels like a

1304
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 3: college atmosphere, not only in the arena, just because, you know,

1305
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: because they haven't priced out the common fan. It feels

1306
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: like everybody loves loves being there. Obviously, the team is

1307
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: super young. They're rooting for each other. You know. He

1308
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: feels like a marching band could break out it anymoment.

1309
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a great atmosphere obviously for sure.

1310
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: All right, another game, we'll throw it in here. Giannis

1311
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: had a triple double. The Bucks destroyed the Warriors one,

1312
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: eighteen to ninety nine. This was over. Yeah, it was

1313
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: over at the end of the first quarter or definitely

1314
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: a behalf.

1315
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 3: Very bad. Ye. I will go back to the point

1316
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 3: where the Warriors they can't find their flow right now

1317
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: on the offensive end. I think part of it is

1318
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 3: seeking out Clay over and over and over again. I

1319
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: know they won with him in the Cavs game, but

1320
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: Steph is just kind of if you watch him, he's

1321
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: just kind of unsure where he's picking his spots because

1322
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson is the offense every moment that he's out there,

1323
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 3: because they're just trying to get Clay shots in his

1324
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 3: limited time out there. So I think that's one issue. Obviously,

1325
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: Draymond Green not being there. It's an excuse for this

1326
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 3: team because the Bucks don't have Drew Holiday, so that

1327
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 3: you can make that excuse. But Draymond Green, he is

1328
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 3: their motor on both ends really a lot of the

1329
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 3: time with Steph, like he's the guy who handles the

1330
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 3: ball a lot of it and makes everything go on

1331
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: the offensive end. And then you know their defense suffered.

1332
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: We saw yeahs at the beginning of the game. What

1333
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 3: are you gonna do?

1334
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, go inside, got loony and fell in trouble like

1335
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm going inside every time. And then and then the

1336
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: Warriors lost Gary Payton June Gary Payton the second in

1337
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: this game, the mitton that doesn't help your defense which

1338
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: is already hurting for view without Draymond green, But I

1339
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: thought the Bucks just looked awesome, and I would like

1340
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: to like pick a specific thing. Devincenzo I thought was

1341
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: like active. You know, he's back recently. I know he

1342
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,479
Speaker 1: had a stinker of a game when he first returned

1343
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: in terms of the ball, but I thought he was

1344
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: doing all those little things that you want your like

1345
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: a guy like him to do a on a good

1346
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: Bucks team. And then Bobby Porter's the same thing.

1347
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so they just looked he was hurt Bobby

1348
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 7: last night for sure. Yeah, there was really not much

1349
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 7: outside that first quarter. The Bucks came out, they'd lost

1350
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 7: a couple of course, they're to the Hornets. They needed

1351
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 7: a bounce back, and the Warriors started off slowly and

1352
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 7: the Bucks just got ahead and they never looked back.

1353
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 7: The Warriors lost to a rod They're going to lose

1354
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 7: three in a row because they're resting pretty much everyone tonight.

1355
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 7: Clay's definitely our, Draymond's still out, I believe Wiggins is out,

1356
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 7: and Steph may even sit out against the Bulls on ESPN.

1357
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 7: So the Warriors just need to get home. That's been

1358
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 7: a bit of a rough trip here for them. But yeah,

1359
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 7: super impressive from the Bucks. Again without Draymon there. Of course,

1360
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 7: Now Jannas is a tough defend against anybody, but you

1361
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 7: just feel that Draymond is certainly a big hole that

1362
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 7: the Warriors can't really replace. Doesn't matter if it's Toscano,

1363
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 7: and so don't think he ended up playing it all

1364
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 7: last night. And and Kevin, I mean, Yns is just

1365
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 7: feasting on those guys.

1366
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: Listen to these other final scorers from last night. We

1367
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: had ran In Ingram scoring twenty four, Pelicans beat the

1368
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: Clippers one thirteen to eighty nine, and Dort led the

1369
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: Thunder past the Nets one thirty to one oh nine.

1370
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: And then Willie Martin fart and Willie Martin scored twenty one.

1371
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: Willie as the Nuggets. I don't know why I called them, Willow.

1372
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why I did that. Nuggets beat the

1373
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: depleted Blazers one forty to one oh eight.

1374
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 3: I know why you called them? Yeah, wait, because yesterday

1375
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: when we pot packs, Yeah, we talked about Willy Burton.

1376
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 1: That's why exactly Willy actually Willy Barton. That's one hundred

1377
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: percent why I called him Willie.

1378
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 3: Willie Barton had a fifty point game in nineteen ninety four.

1379
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: Ninety five, right same season as a Dana Barrows.

1380
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:35,479
Speaker 3: There we go.

1381
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, just was he fart and I don't ugly scores.

1382
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: The only one I wanted to bring up here was

1383
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: the thunder over the Nets. I guess is surprising now

1384
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: now Duran didn't play. It's in Brooklyn, so Kyri didn't play,

1385
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: So it is Harden. It was a bit of a

1386
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: schedule loss if you want to, you know, make an

1387
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: excuse for Brooklyn. They were playing their fourth game in

1388
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: five days, and this was a stretch that began with

1389
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: a home victory Sunday over San Antonio and then I

1390
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: lost the next night in Portland. And I didn't realize

1391
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: this at the time, but the Nets were the first

1392
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: team since Detroit in nineteen seventy three to play in

1393
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: the Eastern and Pacific time zones on consecutive days.

1394
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: Crazy. That was a rescheduled game that Blazers games, So yeah,

1395
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen.

1396
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: So and I think Harden talked about this like they

1397
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: got in for this one last night like super He

1398
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: said he went to bettle like seven thirty or something

1399
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: like that morning, because they got in at like five

1400
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: in the morning. So it was always going to be difficult.

1401
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: And then the Thunders played awesome SGA thirty three and

1402
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: ten nine assists, Dork twenty seven, giddy another great game

1403
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: Ley and they made a ton of three pointers, hit

1404
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: twenty threes and had a bunch of assists. So, you know,

1405
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: a shocking final score there, Thunder over the Nets. Yeah.

1406
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 7: Then Nets got there went against the Bulls, so they

1407
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 7: were like, we don't really care if we win this one.

1408
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: Kevin, take a seat.

1409
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,479
Speaker 7: I'm sort of surprised they played hot and even really

1410
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 7: I thought they might have just said just sit it out.

1411
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 1: But anyway, they didn't hate played. They lost the Yeah,

1412
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: that's that's what happened. Good thing we had that great

1413
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: first segment. We find first half of the nice season.

1414
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: But that happened. Sometimes you look at that.

1415
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 7: There was the other night where it was the Reptist

1416
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 7: Sons and the Grizzlies Warriors. The other games kind of stunk. Luckily,

1417
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 7: Oh you made is one or two good ones?

1418
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: Write that we could go for hours? Yeah, two games? Yeah,

1419
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: do you guys have anything to add to those blowouts there?

1420
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's why the Nets were nominated for Best Picture.

1421
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: But that's why no one will pick them because they

1422
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: have this arrogant feel about them. But you could expect

1423
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 3: them to at least lay down for three quarters. Last night,

1424
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,959
Speaker 3: I thought they would pull it out. I thought they'd

1425
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 3: pull out one quarter and do it, but obviously that

1426
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: didn't happen. Yeah, I will say from that the other side,

1427
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 3: Lou Dort. I saw our friends that Down to Dunk,

1428
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: our friends Andrew Schlick. Why would they ever trade lou Dort?

1429
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 3: There was talk about them trading Lou Door on the

1430
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: Down to Dunk podcast.

1431
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 7: Why he's very difficult to try because he's contracted, is

1432
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 7: so smilling.

1433
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 3: That you could trade him. But I just don't understand

1434
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: that anyway. We should have Andrew Schlechton to explain that,

1435
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 3: because I think Loudor would be desired by twenty nine

1436
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: other teams.

1437
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he's especially on the dealings, but he's not

1438
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: a pick.

1439
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he were a pick, maybe the.

1440
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 8: Thunder to want to hang on though.

1441
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 3: That's a good point. That would be crazy if they

1442
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 3: did trade him. One other thing about the just flying

1443
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 3: back to Andre Goodoala, I just had a flashback of

1444
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 3: the Warriors Bucks Janis makes a lot of people look bad,

1445
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: but Andre Goodolla looked super old, ye trying to Guardian,

1446
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 3: said goodbro. And when he played with the Miami Heat

1447
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 3: last year, Andre Goodala also looked super old. So I

1448
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 3: just wonder in the playoffs, Igodola is in year freaking eighteen. Here,

1449
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 3: He's obviously there to support, but sometimes you got to

1450
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 3: take him off the floor.

1451
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 7: Well, absolutely, I mean Giannis is in the peak of

1452
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 7: his physical palers I think right now. And Andrea Goodala

1453
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 7: has been in credible defender his whole career. Just can't

1454
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 7: keep up with him, honest, can just move around him,

1455
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 7: he can out body him.

1456
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: He's too physically, he's too big.

1457
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 7: But again that you know, no team is going great week.

1458
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 7: We've got the Yanna stopper, but Eagle Dollar at this

1459
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 7: stage of his career, is nowhere near that level of

1460
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 7: being able to slow him down.

1461
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: All right, Well, as promised, let's have a little top five, funny,

1462
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: Top top five, Top Yeah, Top five again inspired by

1463
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: a man name Chief.

1464
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 7: What a big week it's been for Cheap? Was he

1465
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 7: on him when he was shooting the free throw this week?

1466
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: Earlier this week achieve as a Celtics. We showed you

1467
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: at one point him taking a shot down on the

1468
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: on the parquet floor. There we showed you achieved highlight. Yeah,

1469
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of hats, a lot of green hats.

1470
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: We always like to say you got achieved. Still not

1471
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: really sure why we see that except it's fun to say.

1472
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: But anyway, he said in an email, and it's inspired

1473
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: a top five lee because he wrote, Dear No Donkey Bunch.

1474
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: If Damian Millard steys in Portland for the rest of

1475
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: his career and never wins the NBA Finals, would he

1476
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: be the best player without a championship to play his

1477
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: entire career with one team? And I think it was tascit. Well,

1478
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: that's a damn good question, chief. Yeah, that could be

1479
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: a top five or his story in here. So that's

1480
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 1: that's what you've done here. You've got you have the

1481
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: top five players to never win a championship but played

1482
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: only one franchise.

1483
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 7: Yeah. So yeah, when I first saw it and I

1484
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 7: thought okay, and a couple of just sort of pop

1485
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 7: into your head straight away. Then you dig a little

1486
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 7: deeper and you're like, Okay, there's something more to this.

1487
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 7: So initially I started looking at this as just a hey,

1488
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 7: what about this guy? But that's kind of no, fine,

1489
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 7: if I just say, here's five guys, so y, I've

1490
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 7: gone for a top five, but it's an All Star

1491
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 7: starting top five. So three front court and two backcourts. Okay,

1492
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 7: and then afterwards, I've got a little bit of a take,

1493
01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 7: So we'll see how we go with that one. Okay,

1494
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 7: little bit of a take that tea, yeah, okay. The

1495
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 7: first spot goes to a guy who played twelve seasons

1496
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 7: with the same team, career averages of fifteen points and

1497
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 7: six rebounds, eight hundred and sixty seven games and another

1498
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 7: one hundred in the playoffs. A one time All Star.

1499
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 7: He made the NBA Finals once, and he guesses a

1500
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 7: big man. Not American.

1501
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: Oh, who cares? Is maybe a little more difficult.

1502
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 8: One time all Star?

1503
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: You said, one time All Star in nineteen ninety.

1504
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 8: Eight, What did you say about the finals?

1505
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 7: One finals appearance in the year two thousand? Not American?

1506
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 3: Only one all Star? Yeah, twelve years.

1507
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, big guy.

1508
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 7: I had a nice little mid range sort of jump

1509
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 7: shot on him.

1510
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: Oh, I've got nothing. He's got a short player. I

1511
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: think I was like, nope, he played for another team. Nope,

1512
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: he played.

1513
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 7: I think he's only got eight letters in total, in

1514
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 7: his name.

1515
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 8: Joe Smith played for.

1516
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 3: A million Yeah yao, ming is one letter short and

1517
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 3: didn't make a final. Yeah, way too many all Stars.

1518
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 8: Nick Smiths shut out to the street threw about one

1519
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 8: Rick Smiths.

1520
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 7: Yes, Indiana Pacers there Rix.

1521
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: Smith, Rix Smiths is on this list. Rix Smith's was

1522
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: an All Star. Yeah know, but this is top five

1523
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: all time.

1524
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 7: Okay, it's the front he's playing. He's playing power forward.

1525
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 7: I mean it's front court, so I can maneuver it

1526
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 7: because the other man is also seven foot four inches tall.

1527
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 7: Sadly no longer with us unfortunately. Mark Eaton, Yes, he

1528
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 7: played about the same amount of games as Rix Smith's,

1529
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 7: with eight hundred and seventy five regular season seventy four

1530
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 7: playoff games. Now modest career averages, but this is why

1531
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 7: he's in. Two time Defensive Player of the Year, five

1532
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 7: time All Defense member, led the league in blocks four times.

1533
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 7: Throughout the four times four seasons he led the league

1534
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 7: in block one year here he averaged five point six

1535
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 7: blocks per game, and he still holds the single season

1536
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 7: record with four hundred and fifty six blocks in a season.

1537
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 7: To put that in some perspective, Rudy Gobert has only

1538
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,719
Speaker 7: had two hundred blocks in one season, and Myles Turner,

1539
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 7: the current leader this season, is on pace for around

1540
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 7: two hundred and thirty, so barely halfway there. So here's

1541
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 7: where the trivia. First little trivia comes in. Guess the

1542
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 7: last guy to have had three hundred or more blocks

1543
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 7: in a season?

1544
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: Baker?

1545
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 7: No, this is going back about twenty years now. This guy, now,

1546
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 7: this guy Barra Grass.

1547
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: It's got to be Po ratleft.

1548
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 7: Wow, now twenty years ago?

1549
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 3: Come up?

1550
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, theo Ratliffe, one time All Star. I think of

1551
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 7: him as a six or a hawk. He bound around

1552
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 7: a few other teams there. He blocked three hundred and

1553
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 7: seven shots in the three to zero four season. But

1554
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 7: guess what. He played eighty five games that season. He

1555
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 7: was traded mid season five. He was traded mid season

1556
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 7: after fifty three games and the remaining thirty two with

1557
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 7: another team. So he played eighty five games. That's a

1558
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 7: nice little yeah.

1559
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: Is that the most games ever played in a season.

1560
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: I think it is, so. Yeah, I think it is so.

1561
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 7: He wouldn't have got the three hundred if he didn't

1562
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 7: have those extra three games, he would have been at

1563
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 7: two ninety nine. Oh, you checked the game wow, I

1564
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 7: believe he would ninety nine. So yeah, okay, where.

1565
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 3: Are you going to leave off this team?

1566
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: Well, Smith's and market and like no offense was a

1567
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: good players. But well it gets tricky because well more

1568
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: like you like Patrick Ewing and you're.

1569
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 7: Like, oh sure, exactly yeah, and you know, like when

1570
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,480
Speaker 7: you're going through it, you like, exactly.

1571
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: Didn't do it. Didn't do it.

1572
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 7: So the front court spot goes to a legend of

1573
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 7: the game who made the finals eight times but did

1574
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 7: not win a championship. Eleven time All Star, ten time

1575
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 7: All NBA finished his career averaging twenty seven points a

1576
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 7: game on forty three percent shooting.

1577
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 1: Is this go ahead?

1578
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 8: I got it?

1579
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: I have it on my list, he said to me.

1580
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: Eight finals. It's like yeah.

1581
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 7: Now, he technically was given a ring by the franchise

1582
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 7: because he missed some.

1583
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: Time there, but then didn't.

1584
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 8: He retire in the nineteen seventy two season, which the

1585
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 8: Lakers then went on to win the championship.

1586
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 7: And they gave him sort of an honorary ring because

1587
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 7: of his service to the team. There no, no, I mean,

1588
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 7: for the purpose is it?

1589
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: Does it show him with the little ring? You know?

1590
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 7: Note sing that's what right, Okay, okay, So to the

1591
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 7: back court we go, and we have a five time

1592
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 7: All Star, three time All NBA. It just added to

1593
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 7: the NBA's top seventy five players of all time. He

1594
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 7: played fifteen hundred games with one team making to the finals.

1595
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 7: He came up short, had some monster playoff moments, especially

1596
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 7: in Madison Square Garden. He finishes with career averages of

1597
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 7: eighteen points on forty eight forty and eighty nine percent shooting,

1598
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 7: including five times he shot over ninety percent from the line.

1599
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 7: Pretty easy one, I would guess. Reggie Miller, Reginald Miller. Now,

1600
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 7: the interesting thing about Reggie Miller is the two thousand

1601
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 7: and eight Boston Celtics Doc Rivers said, come on, man,

1602
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 7: come and play with us. We need a shooter. You'll

1603
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 7: come off the bench. Reggie was apparently very close to

1604
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 7: accepting that, chose not to. He couldn't do it, he said,

1605
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 7: he couldn't win a championship, especially for the Boston Celtics.

1606
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 7: So he gets in, but he almost didn't get in.

1607
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 7: So you think he regrets it, Nah, I don't think so. Now,

1608
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 7: I don't think so. I don't think he would feel

1609
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 7: it was like the championship won the right way for him.

1610
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 7: I think he's like, you know what, I'm happy with

1611
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 7: how it panned out. Okay, So the last spot goes

1612
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 7: to a ten time All Star, eleven time All NBA,

1613
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 7: five time All defensive player who holds two statistical records

1614
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 7: that honestly may never be broken because in steals, Chris

1615
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 7: Paul is the closest active player behind him in steels,

1616
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 7: and he trails him by eight hundred and Lebron, who

1617
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 7: is next as far as active players, is still eleven

1618
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 7: hundred behind this guy. And it's the same with assists,

1619
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 7: Chris Paul five thousand.

1620
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: Behind this guy.

1621
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 7: Still, come on, and Lebron is also Lebron's actually best

1622
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,919
Speaker 7: skill is passing on herd. He is still six thousand

1623
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 7: behind this guy all time and assists. This guy's career

1624
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 7: averages thirteen points, ten assists, and two steals per game.

1625
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 7: Pretty obvious one. John Stockton.

1626
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: John Stockton. So that's the five.

1627
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 7: But the question was a bad Damian lilid. And so

1628
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 7: here's where I here's my take.

1629
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: Here's my take.

1630
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 7: I'm saying. I'm saying right now, if you were to

1631
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 7: pick your five, John Stockton's on the bench dam In

1632
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 7: Lillard starting this team. No, I think I think John

1633
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 7: Stockton was a great player, very good player, Hall of Fame,

1634
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 7: deserving player.

1635
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: Be careful, man, don't make this unto Larry Birds.

1636
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 7: I also think that those two statistical categories that he's

1637
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 7: the clear leader in, I think people will put so

1638
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 7: much into those that I think if you were to,

1639
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 7: if you were to put Damian Lillard on those teams,

1640
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 7: calm alone. I think the Jazz wins championship if the

1641
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 7: game is if the game is if the game. At

1642
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 7: the end of the game, if you're a coach and

1643
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 7: you've got Lilard or Stockton, you're like, well, you know,

1644
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 7: Johnny can dump the ball into someone else. Lily can

1645
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 7: hit the shot to close out the game more. Stockton

1646
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 7: have of course had the famous one against the Rockets,

1647
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 7: but otherwise Stockton was just like someone else could do

1648
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 7: the work. I think Damian Lillard as far as a

1649
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 7: player now he won't have the stats as Stockton. I

1650
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 7: think as a player he's a better point guard than

1651
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 7: John Stockton.

1652
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,759
Speaker 1: I would rather have him on my team.

1653
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 7: That's my take because look again, I'm not disrespecting John

1654
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 7: Stockton for what he did.

1655
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: He was a dream team, disrespecting him complete as.

1656
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 7: Though John Stockton was only on the Dream team because

1657
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 7: Michael Jordan didn't want Isaiah Thomas on their facts.

1658
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: That's true.

1659
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 7: And look, you know it's like Stockton Malone, Stockton alone. Yeah,

1660
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 7: you dubbed the ball in then Malone did all the work.

1661
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 3: Do the Jazz get to the finals without John making

1662
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 3: other people better? Does Dame make other people better? Enough?

1663
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 7: Did did Johnny actually make all that many people that

1664
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 7: much better?

1665
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: Or did he?

1666
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 8: Just? Where did the assists come from?

1667
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: Mate? He's getting people up and making them better.

1668
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 8: Calf alone, I mean, he didn't only pass to Carl Malone.

1669
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 8: I don't even like defense back defending defense here? Yeah,

1670
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 8: did John stock make the playoffs every season of his career?

1671
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 7: How many times did he flame out in the first round?

1672
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 5: Though?

1673
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: As well?

1674
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 8: How many times has Damian Lillard already missed the playoffs

1675
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 8: in his career? This is not even close to me.

1676
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 8: I actually I don't like John stock I can't.

1677
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 3: Record show.

1678
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm not like I think I like.

1679
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 7: I think he was a great player, But I just

1680
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 7: think when you look at on balance, who I'd rather

1681
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 7: have on the court at the end of the game,

1682
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 7: I'm going with Lillard.

1683
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, now now your list here, your top five

1684
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, I know you were trying to

1685
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: make it like I guess, like a basketball roster. Yeh,

1686
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: Lillard is ahead of Rick Smith. Like if Lillard only

1687
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 1: stays with Blazers his entire career and doesn't win a championship,

1688
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: He's ahead of Rix Man's. He's ahead of Mark Eaton. Yeah,

1689
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: those guys one of those guys getting bumped from your

1690
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: list here? Yeah, I mean then joining John Stockton and

1691
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: Elgin Baylor and Reggie Miller.

1692
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 3: No, Damian Lillard is going to play at the end

1693
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 3: of games, but he's not going to be on the

1694
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 3: starting five of this list.

1695
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: I did not expect to expect this podcast to have

1696
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: a John startin Trey, and I'm going with a Monday.

1697
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 8: Who is Damian Lillard made better all of his all

1698
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 8: star teammates?

1699
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 7: What's the highest John Stockton's ever finished? Like an MVP voting?

1700
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

1701
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

1702
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, like I think, if you put Lillard

1703
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 7: on that Jazz team, if it's.

1704
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 8: A one on one game, I'm taking Damian Lillard every time,

1705
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 8: just like I'm taking Gary Byrd over Larry Bird. But

1706
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 8: this is this is crazy for you. We're gonna be

1707
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 8: talking about this like the Larry Bird streaky shoot.

1708
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 7: I'm more than happy to defend little as far as

1709
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 7: like I say, you're drawing up a play for Lillard

1710
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 7: for Stockton is like you're drawing up for him to

1711
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 7: pass to someone else.

1712
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think the affair fair question is what

1713
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 3: would John stock Can be in today's game where you

1714
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: couldn't handsy get all handsy all the time the way

1715
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 3: he was able to in that era and get all

1716
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 3: those steals. And an interesting debate that came up recently

1717
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 3: with our buds old player John Stockton modern day player,

1718
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 3: who would you rather have? I don't know why this materialized.

1719
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,879
Speaker 3: This is even more random because they played different positions.

1720
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 3: But Stockton versus Clay I guess because why did that come.

1721
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: Thompson's return? But that was a weird debate going on

1722
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: in WhatsApp Stockton.

1723
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 3: I regret bringing it up.

1724
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 1: That's okay, So I just checked highest John Stockton ever

1725
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 1: finished in the MVP Award.

1726
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 7: Shares take guess tenth.

1727
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: Now he had a seventh, had an eighth much later,

1728
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: and then he also had a ninth, and then there

1729
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 1: was a tenth. So four actually five top ten finishes,

1730
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: but near the back end, so never a top five

1731
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: MVP voter. Okay, look, yeah, I loved it. I loved

1732
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 1: bringing ship like that to the ping Pont. It was

1733
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: not just that, hey what about this guy? You know?

1734
01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: I thought, why not it hot hot takes. All right,

1735
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna take our final break when we come back.

1736
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: We got tweeted the night, we got pick the results,

1737
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: and we have rapid fire. Son't go anywhere, all right

1738
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: back with no dounks. You fired up the stream team

1739
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: today with your fire take about Damian Lillard being better

1740
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: than John Stockton. Yeah, I'm gonna stand by it. Then

1741
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 1: would you like people? Would you like people to tweet

1742
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: at you?

1743
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 7: They a tweeted they want I mean, I'm not trying

1744
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 7: to start a fund. I'm just saying I think that.

1745
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

1746
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 7: But my point is I just think little is a

1747
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 7: better player. Those accomplishments of Stockings. All I say, Alma

1748
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 7: is never gonna be baiting.

1749
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 1: That's rights a goose. Shoot.

1750
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd be higher in today's game.

1751
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 8: What's Chris Paul's career high in assists for a season.

1752
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 8: That's probably what John Stock don't average. But I will

1753
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 8: say this, here's something goosey about all these numbers. How

1754
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 8: did Mark eaton average so many blocks per game? Had

1755
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 8: they not invented the floater? Like, there's the tallest guy

1756
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 8: in the league is there and teams are still challenging

1757
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 8: what's going on?

1758
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: Well, it's Utah as well, so maybe those stats that are.

1759
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 3: A bit.

1760
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 7: And the other thing is, if you're going to have

1761
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 7: a coach, you would have Frank Lyton Jazz coach. Well,

1762
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 7: current day assistant coach would be Queen's Fata, who's had

1763
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 7: a very identical record there for the Jazz.

1764
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 3: It's gone too far.

1765
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: Let's get to tweet of the night.

1766
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 3: Tweet of the night. Wow tweeted the night.

1767
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: My man, what do you got?

1768
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: I actually not much, to be honest.

1769
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like the old days, or I could

1770
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 4: go into a show with literally nothing and then uh yeah,

1771
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff that I'm doing and it's

1772
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 4: been a rough day. The stream team, I treated them

1773
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 4: to a zoom fest earlier. We were just hitting the

1774
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 4: wrong buttons going here and there and everywhere, So I

1775
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 4: don't I don't have a tweet. And when I go

1776
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 4: into panic mode, what I normally do is I'll go

1777
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 4: into our potential drops channel in slack. Now this is

1778
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 4: where you guys will drop potential cold opens for the show. Now,

1779
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 4: today we had an incredible one, the swim Guy, and

1780
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 4: that came courtesy of a person named Cole Ram and

1781
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 4: that was that was the a perfect cold open, like

1782
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 4: it had everything. You know, it was funny, It wasn't

1783
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 4: too long, but it was. It was long, but in

1784
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 4: a good way. It was like, this is getting long,

1785
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 4: but now it's funny because it's so long. So I

1786
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 4: just wanted to maybe I don't have a tweet, but

1787
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,440
Speaker 4: I do have the maybe a new segment where we

1788
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 4: we we call it like rejected cold opens. Okay, so

1789
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 4: here's one that was that was submitted by our men,

1790
01:20:56,479 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 4: j E. Skeets and I'm just gonna, you know, talk

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01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 4: through it and uh and you'll see why it's not

1792
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 4: great for a cold open.

1793
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 2: So uh so here we go.

1794
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: It's I don't even remember which one it was.

1795
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: Now this is weeks ago.

1796
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 4: This is it looks like the Melbourne Cricket Ground, a

1797
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 4: corporate corpulent gentleman being encouraged to scull beers.

1798
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: So he's just sculled one it looks like two beers.

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01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then one more one one mall, yeah, let's

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01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 4: do it, and there it goes.

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01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 2: He's great, he's really zero effort.

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01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't even choke the car. It's incredible. It's incredible.

1803
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 5: And he just sculled three beers. And the time that

1804
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 5: this clip started, and now here's the fourth.

1805
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 4: Is should I should? I? Of course he's going and

1806
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 4: he does it.

1807
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,919
Speaker 1: Now why it's awesome?

1808
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 2: I mean alcohol poisoning.

1809
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 4: Here shares the alcohol poison But so, okay, that doesn't work. Now,

1810
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 4: I get a lot of submissions, and I love getting

1811
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 4: the submissions because, believe it or not, it's hard to

1812
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 4: find good cold opens. I mean, that's some of them,

1813
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:09,919
Speaker 4: don't worry.

1814
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: So what's wrong with that one? It's not great for.

1815
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 2: Audio listen skeets uh.

1816
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,799
Speaker 4: This is an audio podcast as well, so there's really

1817
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 4: nothing happening. Is nothing for the audios, just a bunch

1818
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 4: of sheering, and I get that sometimes we do do

1819
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 4: that sometimes, but it just goes. You have to see

1820
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 4: him skull all four beers. So it's it's about a minute,

1821
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 4: or maybe longer than a minute, so we just couldn't

1822
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 4: use it. Okay, So I have one more. I know,

1823
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 4: usually I like to have three, but now Lee submitted

1824
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 4: this one, and I almost hesitate to put this on

1825
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 4: the show, and you know what, I'm not even gonna

1826
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 4: describe it. So Lee, I'm gonna put you on the

1827
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 4: spot and I want you to describe what's happening and

1828
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 4: then we can discuss.

1829
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 2: Why this isn't the best choice for a cold O.

1830
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: I forget what this well?

1831
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: Here it comes, here, it comes, So talk us through

1832
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: this sleep Please tell you listen what's happening.

1833
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 7: This one came through a.

1834
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: He came through a group? What chat? I actually put

1835
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: it through? You know not seriously, did you want to

1836
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: explain it? It's just a game. You're gonna sit around

1837
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: and play with your friends. Maybe we should go on

1838
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 1: for the table.

1839
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: It's like, maybe pick the payoff.

1840
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: What's the best way to describe that? As if two

1841
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: people were playing Hungry Hungry nips jerking off.

1842
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out.

1843
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: To Chizzy for that one. He's send that in the name.

1844
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 2: That is a chef's kiss on brand.

1845
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: You guys have met he was in the studio one time.

1846
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,879
Speaker 1: Even Foxy came in. Know, go to him Chisi and skits.

1847
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's after ten am, so we can say.

1848
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: Whatever the hell we want.

1849
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 7: Jessey's claim to fame is that he thinks the best

1850
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 7: night ever to pick up girls is Christmas Eve because

1851
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 7: because no girl wants to wake up on Christmas Day alone.

1852
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: Thomas, that's Jizy, that's Jizy's theory. He's he's he's.

1853
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 3: Pulled once his.

1854
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: Christmas Day alone. You want to that's like scratching the surface.

1855
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 3: Exactly. Chisey doesn't want to wake up Alon seven days

1856
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 3: until the Universal Day.

1857
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, man.

1858
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 8: Great stuff rejected cold opens as a keeper.

1859
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: But now now do you know that ship we're going

1860
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: to be putting and that's channel.

1861
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 4: That's mine And that's fine. More content I need more.

1862
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 4: I'm always struggling. I'm struggling always, so.

1863
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 7: I don't mind throwing that stuff in because I'm like

1864
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 7: JD has the final course.

1865
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: So it's like I'll just put it in. I'm just

1866
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm just putting it in this like that's what I'm doing.

1867
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: That's not my responsibility.

1868
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 3: What about Lee shaking the shakeway, that's what that reminds

1869
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 3: me definitely, but there's no audio. I don't think it

1870
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:34,440
Speaker 3: was after a crossfire, not going to cut out.

1871
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's get to pick them results from last night.

1872
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: It was the Warriors Bucks game. Milwalkee was favored by

1873
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: two and a half at home, and uh, they were

1874
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: up three in a hurry and they maintained and increased

1875
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: that lead throughout the game easily won. As we talked

1876
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: about this brought to you my dad MGM. Of course

1877
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: right now, maybe I'm seven to two in the month

1878
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: of January, Trey got to win as well back in

1879
01:25:56,360 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: the Bucks. So you're four and five, Lee, rock gun

1880
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: dang a little bit at three and six, but you

1881
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: guys are right there, and I mean Trees just one

1882
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 1: game ahead. So what's tonight's getting.

1883
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 3: Well, it's an old battle or classic one, some would say.

1884
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 3: Dwayne Casey, Piston's head coach, taking on his former team,

1885
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 3: the Toronto Raptors, who he owns. Pistons surprisingly always beat

1886
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 3: the Raptors, and it's a seven and a half point spread,

1887
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 3: so the Pistons can still lose by seven and cover

1888
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,839
Speaker 3: and that's why myself and Lee are riding those stones. Well,

1889
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 3: skeets and tray taking the Raps.

1890
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:34,799
Speaker 1: Is Casey is coaching?

1891
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 5: Right?

1892
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: He is back?

1893
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, the little twisting not claiming Rex claiming, I think

1894
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,520
Speaker 7: was they lost calaiming against the claiming, against.

1895
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: The Jazz and against the Bulls too. Yeah, I think, Yeah,

1896
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: I know he's out there.

1897
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rex gets out there and the boat shoes. I

1898
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 3: noticed him out there getting that. I'm I think half

1899
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 3: the NBA coach head coaches have been in protocols already.

1900
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, percent of apparently like a majority of them as well. Yeah,

1901
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: I mean the Jazz were the one team I remember

1902
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 1: that it hadn't really hit, but that's of course change

1903
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: or the last week or so, a lot of their

1904
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: guys going into health and safety protocols. All right, So

1905
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: Trey and I have the Raptors win by eight points

1906
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: or more in Detroit, right, versus a team like you said,

1907
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: if Casey's there, maybe even not. The Pistons always play

1908
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: the Raps close, and a lot of the times beat

1909
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: them in the last couple of years. Okay, let's end

1910
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: this fun drop podcast with some rapid fire questions. JD,

1911
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: you got the cues here today? How about.

1912
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 4: I do have the cues and the first one. It

1913
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 4: is this I'm stalling. Yesterday, our man Lee Ellis was

1914
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 4: late to the dock and had to answer first on

1915
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 4: the dreaded Ben Simmons story. Tell us about a time

1916
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 4: you got stuck with something. Who's first here, Trey.

1917
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 3: Oh no, not me?

1918
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1919
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 3: Ask me ye stalling a little bit here.

1920
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 8: When we moved into our house over the summer, a

1921
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 8: previous owner will leave some things and found a baby

1922
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 8: gun in the closet, had a piano downstairs. But the

1923
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 8: worst thing they left was a gigantic rolltop desk. Nice desk,

1924
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 8: really well made, but the rolltop didn't work and it

1925
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 8: was just taking up too much room, so Laura got

1926
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 8: rid of it. A couple came over to pick it up.

1927
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 8: The four of us are working on this thing was humongous.

1928
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 8: We're talking like millimeters despair on the door jams to

1929
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,440
Speaker 8: get it out. We get it into their truck and

1930
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 8: the guy says to me, your wife's a beast mate.

1931
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 8: Let me tell you I've never been more roman ready

1932
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 8: in my life. Blood roll top desk out of here.

1933
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 8: Some English bloke complimenting my wife was just like.

1934
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 9: She was abandon After off the All Area team they'll

1935
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 9: the couch all right, skates.

1936
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: Not as great as that, uh I've I've told you before.

1937
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: I worked a job as a physician recruiter during college.

1938
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: It was sort of a part time job turned into

1939
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: more of a full time job, and so I I

1940
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 1: did a lot of things there. So I got stuck

1941
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: doing a lot of things. I actually ended up liking

1942
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: it because it got me away from the computer. But

1943
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: the one thing I ended up doing once was started

1944
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 1: doing stone work in the backyard. And it's like, I've

1945
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 1: never done this before. I don't know what I'm doing

1946
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: at all, but I wanted to do it because it

1947
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: got me outside again, away from the computer. I sort

1948
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 1: of was doing a lot of it work as well.

1949
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm not good at that either. I was like just

1950
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: a you know, jack of all trades is what I

1951
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: ended up doing at that squad. But I got stuck

1952
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 1: doing yeah, backward yard backward stone works. Not that crazy,

1953
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: not that crazy, like you know, putting down big I

1954
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: don't see, I don't even know the terminology, Like just

1955
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: big sheets of rock, like at stuffing stones almost so

1956
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,839
Speaker 1: pavers made yeah, make sure it's level, you're getting gravel

1957
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: down there. And I did a good job. I milked it.

1958
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: I made it last weeks.

1959
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:16,719
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, you get you can say I'm getting

1960
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 3: artsy with it and make it all off chilter, you know,

1961
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 3: don't even have to.

1962
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 1: Make it's true. That's true, it's true.

1963
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 3: That's what's happening. Test Well, mine is also wife related.

1964
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 3: I asked Danielle this question and she said, well, that

1965
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 3: big framed flag you have. I said, excuse me, I

1966
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 3: am not stuck with that beautiful art piece of art

1967
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,879
Speaker 3: that we were given. Actually, when we came down to Atlanta,

1968
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 3: Turner Sports gave us this beautiful combination flag of the

1969
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 3: US and the Canadian flag. Actually, I put it on

1970
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 3: Instagram this week and somebody said, a fan of our said,

1971
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 3: Nicholas said, vexil oh, logically speaking, that is a butte

1972
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 3: vexillologically speaking the study of flags. Yes, and I totally

1973
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 3: agree that somebody put together, like skeets in a backyard

1974
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 3: putting down stone. Somebody sewed that beautifully together. It's very

1975
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 3: well done. So I can't wait to put it up.

1976
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 1: I've never understood why it curves like that.

1977
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fair. Yeah, that's the interesting. Yeah, Yeah, I

1978
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 3: can't wait to put it up. What is the study

1979
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 3: of flags vexillology?

1980
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, that's good to know.

1981
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 3: Somebody else there's just too many l's in that word.

1982
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,920
Speaker 3: But yes, I agree with you. Why why the little

1983
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 3: semicircle there?

1984
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think that was I think

1985
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 1: an American made this. Then they wanted there to be

1986
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more American.

1987
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 3: But I would say the Canadian flag has a little

1988
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 3: bit more width on it.

1989
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 1: Because there's a oh, you're right? Might'd you're right?

1990
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 3: So maybe it's fifty to fifty you have a perfect split.

1991
01:31:58,479 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 2: We cracked that one.

1992
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 1: This week.

1993
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 4: Clipper's sideline reporter Christina Pink took a nose dive after

1994
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 4: a postgame interview with a mere Coffee. I'm not going

1995
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 4: to show the clip because I don't have them any hands.

1996
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 4: The interview had just ended and Coffee was walking away

1997
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 4: when Christina suddenly slipped on some water, landing headfirst on

1998
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 4: the court. It looked really bad, but she's okay. When

1999
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 4: have you literally or figuratively fallen flat on your face?

2000
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 8: Tray fourth grade, we took a field trip to the

2001
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 8: Sears Tower, and one of the first things you do

2002
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 8: is like you go into a dark theater where you're watching,

2003
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 8: like you know the history of how they built this

2004
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 8: gigantic skyscraper.

2005
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: It was packed house.

2006
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 8: Of course, a lot of field trips there, and I

2007
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 8: saw a great spot to sit. So it's like I'm

2008
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 8: gonna run there and sit, make it around the corner, trip,

2009
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 8: fall straight into the wall, like as hard as I

2010
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,719
Speaker 8: possibly could, rug burns because it was like a carpeted

2011
01:32:55,800 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 8: wall on my face for the whole day in Chicago.

2012
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 3: Not very cool. Would you rather have a wood wall

2013
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 3: or a carpeted wall, That's a fair question, burn or brunt.

2014
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 8: I would rather have a wood wood because I mean,

2015
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 8: it's still made a wood, even if it's covered in carpets,

2016
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 8: You're still hitting the wood.

2017
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 2: Plus the burn, I'd take the burn. I want the

2018
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 2: scar too.

2019
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 3: I want to.

2020
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:24,799
Speaker 2: It's Kates.

2021
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 1: I will not go literal with this. Instead, I will

2022
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: probably reshare the story because I've answered a million of

2023
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: these rapid fire questions of I got flown out to

2024
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: a sports blocking conference in Las Vegas years back back

2025
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 1: when sports blogs were a thing. They were the hot thing,

2026
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: and I was asked to talk on a panel. I

2027
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, sure, I'll do that. I was just

2028
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 1: living in Toronto at the time. They were gonna fly

2029
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 1: me there and all that put me up in a hotel. Yeah,

2030
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 1: talk on a you know, a ninety minute panel the

2031
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 1: next day, No problem, sounds fun. I had a bunch

2032
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 1: of complications with my flight. There's a bunch of delays

2033
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:03,759
Speaker 1: and it was canceled. And I eventually got there to Vegas.

2034
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 1: But I got there at a really weird time. Must

2035
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: have been just super late. And then, of course you're

2036
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 1: in Vegas. I'm meeting a bunch of people I'd never

2037
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: seen in person for the first time, because you know,

2038
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: I only knew them online. We're out, You're in Vegas,

2039
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 1: the drinks are flowing, you're at the tables, and the

2040
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: night got away from me. To say that I had

2041
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:25,719
Speaker 1: an early panel. I went to bed. I did find

2042
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 1: my way to bed, and when I woke up, I

2043
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 1: looked at my watch and said, oh, whoops, the panels

2044
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 1: over about three hours ago.

2045
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 2: Good.

2046
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 1: So then I had a decision to make. I was

2047
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 1: flying home that day, so I was like, well, I

2048
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: could just go to the airport and fly home and peace,

2049
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: or do I, you know, do I own up to this.

2050
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: Find the guy like the whatever, like the person that

2051
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 1: was putting it on, find him, apologize, explain a little

2052
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: bit what happened, and at least maybe I would feel

2053
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: better knowing I did that. And so I did. I

2054
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,719
Speaker 1: was happy I did, because somebody else who was actually

2055
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:05,799
Speaker 1: in the same boat as me, the exact same thing happened.

2056
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 1: They missed their panel because they're partying in Vegas. They

2057
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 1: just flew home. So at least I was like, So

2058
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 1: he was disappointed, but he was like, well, at least

2059
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:21,520
Speaker 1: you had, you know, the balls to come up and apologize. So, Ris,

2060
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: it was. I mean I had fun, I think, but

2061
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: that's rough.

2062
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 8: More fun than you would have had on the panel.

2063
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 1: Story out of it.

2064
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 3: You know, for sure you probably you've played that squirter game.

2065
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 3: But that guy was the one who got squirted on

2066
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 3: their face. You did it that way right. It took

2067
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 3: me a long time to find a good, a non

2068
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 3: offensive word, Chris was squirter?

2069
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 2: Semi you got an answer to this one literal.

2070
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I fell off my bike a billion times.

2071
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, there was one time one of those things

2072
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 3: where you I was going too slow Ryan in my

2073
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 3: friend Thor's house on Dixie Road in Mississauga, and I

2074
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 3: just lost it on the sidewalk when it was nothing

2075
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 3: one bike accident, nothing in front of me, just just

2076
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 3: chilling and going too slow, and just lost it and

2077
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 3: went head over the handlebars and just showed up to

2078
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 3: Thor's house without bloody grill. Uh and yes, what's with

2079
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 3: your face? And I said, I don't know the sidewalk one,

2080
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 3: you know, it's just one of those one. Yeah.

2081
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 2: Was was Thor the dog that bit you? It was his?

2082
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 2: Was it Thor's knocked that?

2083
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 3: I wasn't Thor's dog. That was Alexander Cursix dog Middle

2084
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 3: came and jumped on my leg and now was in

2085
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 3: an urn in front of their family home. They kept

2086
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 3: they kept the dog's ashes.

2087
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 2: You get attached to a dog, it turns out, never.

2088
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 3: Never heard of that.

2089
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 1: Well, maybe not the one that bit.

2090
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:01,480
Speaker 2: Him, doesn't. But Alexander was sure, very fund for sure.

2091
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 2: I would have killed that dog.

2092
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:03,719
Speaker 7: Test.

2093
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 4: I would have killed him, and I wouldn't have thought

2094
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 4: twice about it.

2095
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

2096
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:11,599
Speaker 4: Last one, earlier this week, Avery Bradley stole the ball

2097
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 4: from Jamarant and attempted to lay the ball in, only

2098
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 4: to be denied by Morant himself. With what may go

2099
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 4: down as the greatest block in history. Tell us about

2100
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 4: a time you exacted your revenge in spectacular fashion.

2101
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 3: Tray.

2102
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were.

2103
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 8: Playing The Bro's Trip to Wisconsin a few years back,

2104
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 8: and for this one, we decided we're all gonna draw

2105
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 8: names out of a hat, and then you have to

2106
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 8: get a weird shirt for the person whose name you drew.

2107
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 8: I drew friend of the program, Tom Porrol. I think

2108
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 8: he's actually here in the stream team right now. And

2109
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 8: I hooked him up with a gigantic shirt of one

2110
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:55,679
Speaker 8: of our friend's faces, just a big old Schmidt face

2111
01:37:56,160 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 8: shirt here. And the revenge is showing this picture of

2112
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 8: Tom Poro while he's sitting there watching. Shout out to

2113
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:10,640
Speaker 8: Tommy Poro. Terrible shirt, just a terrible shit front and

2114
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 8: back picture.

2115
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 4: When you send me this photo, I thought this was

2116
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 4: for question one. Falling flat on your face. It looks

2117
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 4: like a face plant on top.

2118
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:23,799
Speaker 3: Of the dog. Rip Madden.

2119
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 1: That dog's dead too.

2120
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 8: That dog is done.

2121
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:29,919
Speaker 2: So very depressing.

2122
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 3: Who was next?

2123
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 2: A Skats?

2124
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nineteen ninety eight. I was eighteen. We

2125
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 1: were on a flight from JFK to London and I

2126
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 1: saw this person immediately a baby. I know you've never

2127
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 1: been to London, so on a baby story. Seven hour flight.

2128
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 1: First hour was bliss. Then the crying startedly, small whimpers

2129
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: at first. Then came the shrieking, loud, loud, loud, till

2130
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: it filled the whole cabin. When I arrived in London,

2131
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,919
Speaker 1: and I was a shell of a man, lee broken.

2132
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 1: You see, I had spent my entire life savings to

2133
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: go to London to see my beloved Buckingham Palace, so

2134
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: I could see if I could make those soldiers laugh.

2135
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: But because of the baby, I was too tired to

2136
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 1: do anything funny. And I vowed from that day forward

2137
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 1: that I would devout the rest of my life to

2138
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:27,799
Speaker 1: getting my revenge on that little baby. So flash forward, Yeah,

2139
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I did. It took me twenty years,

2140
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 1: le twenty long years. But I searched for the man

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Speaker 1: that had became I had searched for the man that

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Speaker 1: was the baby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I found him.

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Speaker 1: I went through his garbage. It was crazy. A rat

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Speaker 1: bit me on the hand, it's not gross.

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Speaker 2: And I found this.

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Speaker 1: Travel itinerary, and lo and behold the stars aligned and

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Speaker 1: there we were, the baby turned man and me sitting

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Speaker 1: by side by side, on an international flight and I

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Speaker 1: exacted my revenge. I cried the whole flight.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the light.

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Speaker 1: But then I was sitting in the wrong seat.

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Speaker 3: Like handsome Lockdown.

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Speaker 4: I got revenge, but I knew one of you was

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Speaker 4: going to do when I wrote this question, Tessy Man, I.

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Speaker 3: Hope that Nirvana baby gets its money. You just remind

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Speaker 3: me of it. He keeps soon and Nirvana when's he

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Speaker 3: gonna get money?

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Speaker 8: Keeps going for it?

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Speaker 3: Anyway?

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Speaker 2: What do you got?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 3: What was the question?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess I exacted my revenge on Vincent

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Speaker 3: Lamar Carter when he got his way out of Toronto.

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Speaker 3: Of course I was a super fan back then. He

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Speaker 3: came back with the new Jersey Netso sitting in the

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Speaker 3: upper bowl and I yelled, you'll never win anything, Vince,

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Speaker 3: And then he didn't. Then he did not win.

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Speaker 1: Put a curse on that.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, we have Well he didn't, but he

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Speaker 3: you know, then we made up. He came on the

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Speaker 3: starters multiple times. Now we're incredible friends, great friends.

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Speaker 1: There. It is rapid fire questions. What a way to

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Speaker 1: end the drop? Another classic? I think safe to say

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Speaker 1: had it all in long one? Yeah, yeah, very long one,

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Speaker 1: which is good because it's a long weekend here in

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Speaker 1: the US. I know, I think I said we were

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Speaker 1: gonna have a show on Monday. At one point. We're

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Speaker 1: going to figure out streaming, but it looks like there

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Speaker 1: could be a trip to Memphis happening. Like it's legit

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01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 1: happy going down. We gotta go watch the Grizzlies, hottest

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01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 1: team in the league, take on doubles. So we are

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01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 1: likely going on Monday to Memphis, a five and a

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01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: half hour drive or whatever it is. So probably no

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01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,719
Speaker 1: show money, but it makes sense because the game starts

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01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: so early. I think they started like maybe in Atlanta, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so and then they go throughout the day. So we'll

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Speaker 1: just do Tuesday show and do like a supersized edition

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Speaker 1: of Long Weekend. You know, NBA winners and losers. Email

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Speaker 1: in your questions though to no dunks at the Athletic

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Speaker 1: the Athletic dot Com slash nodunks. Oh yeah, that's why

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Speaker 1: I said it's not a big deal that this is

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Speaker 1: a long one because it's gonna last people for a

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Speaker 1: couple of days. That's why I said. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: a reason I circled back.

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Speaker 3: That's why we did it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, we guys, We'll see you on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Clipper Rose, you heard it here first.

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Speaker 8: Have a great time, turn up, love you guys.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 3: He came around to the reason why we're having a

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Speaker 3: long podcast. Somebody reminded me of why Vince Carter came

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Speaker 3: around and got revenge on me because I bought that

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01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 3: program that I thought I got his autograph on, but

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Speaker 3: it was a fake. It wasn't Vince Carter's autograph. Check

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Speaker 3: out the link below. We did a show up.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna put that after every video.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Embrace the weekend people,