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Speaker 3: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: We have continuing fire coverage. No, this is not a tape,

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Speaker 3: this is not a recording. This is live. I believe

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Speaker 3: we're out of hosts. We're now recycling daytime hosts. If me,

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Speaker 3: you and Ray are here, then yeah, I'm gonna wake

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Speaker 3: was like one of those dreams where everything's out of

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Speaker 2: There was a fire. As like, No, that was real.

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Speaker 2: You did that.

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Speaker 3: If you haven't heard California, well, Gavin Newsom has sent

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Speaker 3: the National Guard to the city of Los Angeles. Newsom

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Speaker 3: ten rotary wing aircrafts to see one thirty airplanes.

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Speaker 2: And they are going.

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Speaker 3: To be dispersed among these fires to try to help

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Speaker 3: out all the fire agencies and the police that are

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Speaker 3: town or coming to town very shortly. We're going to

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Speaker 3: talk now with doctor Human Hamadi. Uh doctor Humadi. You

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Speaker 3: may see him frequently on Fox News. He's a board

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Speaker 3: certified medical doctor, ophthalmologist, PhD, research scientist, biotech engineer, author, commentator.

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Speaker 3: To talk about all the the health aspects here and

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Speaker 3: to talk about the performance of Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass.

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Speaker 3: He's got a lot of strong opinions on that as well.

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Speaker 3: Let's get doctor Human Hamadi on the phone. Welcome to KFI.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for coming on at this that's good to have.

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Speaker 3: You got a lot of energy. What are you doing

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Speaker 1: What am I doing? I've been doing interview since like

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Speaker 2: To back to Yeah, well, I mean got a lot

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Speaker 3: So let's talk first about you know, the medical and

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Speaker 1: You know? I know at this point I've stopped counting

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Speaker 1: It's not like these houses burned down in isolation. People

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Speaker 1: And I think people who are going through this need

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Speaker 3: You know, people are going to move away, people are

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Speaker 1: It doesn't end. It really doesn't end. I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: It can be done, I know.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the Woolsey fire.

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Speaker 3: It's funny, I haven't thought about that fire, probably since

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Speaker 2: It's impossible. The government makes it impossible.

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Speaker 1: They do, they do, and it's sad. And you know,

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Speaker 1: And so look, he said, hey, Karen Bass, you as

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not a State department person or

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Speaker 1: forgetting the fire, right to fire and everything else. But

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Speaker 3: Why do so many people reflectively send new some Bass

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Speaker 3: I think those mail in ballots, Those mail in ballots

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Speaker 1: Until twenty four, right, we finally saw that shift that

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Speaker 1: you know, among the Kamala Harris camp as well, when

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Speaker 1: just the incompetence was exposed and people said forget it.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like the Soviet Union when it collapsed. It

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Speaker 3: was dominant for so long and then it seemed like

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Speaker 3: in a matter of days it was all gone poof.

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Speaker 3: And absolutely that's what this progressive movement is mimicking. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I was fascinating talking with you. Thank you for coming on,

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Speaker 3: and I hope we can talk again on the air soon.

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Speaker 1: It's an absolute pleasure. You can call me anytime. I

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Speaker 1: will happily be honest and honor.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you so much. Doctor human Hamadi.

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00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: He's an MD board certified ophthalmologist, pH D, research scientist,

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Speaker 3: biotech entrepreneur, author, and a lot a lot of studied opinions,

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Speaker 3: well reasoned opinions. Again, it was like talking with Caruso,

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Speaker 3: the intelligence, the flow of conversation, the logical rational order

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Speaker 3: of their arguments and their beliefs, as opposed to a

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Speaker 3: minute and thirty eight seconds of silence from Karen Bass.

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Speaker 3: She couldn't explain why she was in Africa instead of here,

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Speaker 3: and then when she finally speaks before the media, she's

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Speaker 3: like a cardboard cutout reading a scripted card with filled

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Speaker 3: with cliches and platitudes.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, all right, we've got more coming up.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be on till three am, and then Neil

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Speaker 3: Savadri is gonna come on. Well he'd better come on,

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Speaker 3: or Eric, you can just play this all over again

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Speaker 3: because I'm going home final with me.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 4: six forty.

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Speaker 2: Special Edition here as.

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Speaker 3: We have continuing fire coverage on KFI throughout the night.

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Speaker 3: I'll be here till three o'clock and then Neil Savager

462
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Speaker 3: comes in until five. Amy King will have her morning

463
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Speaker 3: news show, and then Handle and Neil will begin again

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Speaker 3: at six. It is now what Thursday morning?

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Speaker 1: Am? I right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, Thursday morning.

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Speaker 3: The NFL Playoffs begin this Saturday, as the Chargers take

468
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Speaker 3: on the Texans in Houston, with wild card pregame coverage

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Speaker 3: beginning Saturday morning at eleven thirty and then the kickoff

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Speaker 3: is at one twenty five. And you could listen to

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Speaker 3: the game either on KFI AM six forty or a

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Speaker 3: M five seventy LA Sports both stations and bolt up,

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Speaker 3: bolt up, all right, So you got the wild card

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Speaker 3: pregame at eleven thirty Saturday, kickoff at one twenty five,

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Speaker 3: Chargers in the Houston, Texans.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, we just had doctor human Hamadi on and

478
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Speaker 3: he's quite the public critic of Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom,

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00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: and he was right and everything he said, and he

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00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: talked about the local media, and you know, it's an

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Speaker 3: old complaint about the protection racket that people like Newsom

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Speaker 3: and Bass get from local media, certainly the LA Times

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Speaker 3: for many years, and the local news stations, which are

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Speaker 3: not as overt as the Times, but they're so passive

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Speaker 3: they just allow things to happen without comment, without putting

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Speaker 3: pressure on a Bass or a Nuisance to say, hey,

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Speaker 3: what the hell is going on here?

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Speaker 2: How could this happen?

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Speaker 3: And we really stand alone here all these years in

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Speaker 3: pointing out exactly what's happening, because I never cared if

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Speaker 3: they called me or Ken or the rest of us

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Speaker 3: all kinds of their stupid names.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter to me.

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Speaker 3: We tell the truth and we're right, and we don't

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Speaker 3: protect anybody, not Democrats, not Republicans, nobody. I've never understood

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Speaker 3: that there's us, the normal people, and there's them politicians

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Speaker 3: and bureaucrats from both parties, and the media, which used

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Speaker 3: to be on our side, but most of the media

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Speaker 3: join their side. And you know, we're going to continue

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Speaker 3: being the voice in the wilderness here, and I am

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Speaker 3: not going to let go the incompetence of Karen Bass

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Speaker 3: and the other bureaucrats who allowed this disaster to happen.

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Speaker 3: Than by disaster, I mean a lack of water to

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Speaker 3: put out the fire, to try to mitigate the fire

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Speaker 3: in the Palisades. Obviously, you cannot stop overwhelming powerful forces

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Speaker 3: like mother Nature. But as doctor Rumati said, let me

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Speaker 3: get his name right, Doctor HERMANI. Rick Crusoe said this

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Speaker 3: as well, you've got to do the brush clearance. We

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Speaker 3: had bill of sale on the Republican legislature said the

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Speaker 3: same thing you got to do the brush clearance in

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Speaker 3: the state forests, in the federal forests, in the land

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Speaker 3: around the Palisades that the city is responsible for. You

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Speaker 3: cannot cave in to these wacky environmentalists who don't want

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Speaker 3: you to touch a blade of grass, a twig. They're

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Speaker 3: trying they'd some weird religious cult. The outcome makes no sense,

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Speaker 3: as Bill of Sale said, you know, they're afraid that

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Speaker 3: you'll touch a bird's nest and a bird will die.

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Speaker 3: Except now all the birds are dead after the massive fire,

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Speaker 3: And so we're just gonna keep calling out exactly what's

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Speaker 3: going on. But this is pure incompetence, and I'm going

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Speaker 3: to stress this. There should be massive resignations in city government,

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Speaker 3: especially those that are responsible for overseeing fire response. On

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Speaker 3: no planet, on no planet, should you have a fire

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Speaker 3: of this magnitude and everybody runs out of water in

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Speaker 3: seventeen hours, which is what happened. They had three million

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Speaker 3: gallon tanks sent to Pacific Palisades, which sounds like a

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Speaker 3: lot of water, and it is right. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what three million gallons looks like or feels like, but that.

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Speaker 2: Should be a lot of water. Except this magnitude was

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Speaker 2: not enough, and they should have known it was not enough.

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Speaker 3: They have computer modeling, you know, like the computer modeling

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Speaker 3: they do for hurricanes, to try to track the hurricanes,

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Speaker 3: how strong it's going to be, what kind of damage

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Speaker 3: it's going to do. Of course they have that for fires.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we spent the money to do

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Speaker 3: that kind of computer modeling, and I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it works properly, but it exists, and then you come

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Speaker 3: up with a battle plan. Accordingly, says, there's no question

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Speaker 3: there has to be consequences for these public officials.

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Speaker 2: Number one thing is you got to bring the water.

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Speaker 2: Who packed the water?

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Speaker 3: Story here in the law in the New York Post,

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Speaker 3: which is publishing some truth, they talk about a man

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Speaker 3: named Malcolm Stewart because they talked about the water tanks.

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Speaker 2: Right, the three water tanks. I mentioned.

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Speaker 3: First water tank was empty by five pm. The fire

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Speaker 3: is reported at ten thirty am yesterday. By five o'clock,

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Speaker 3: first water tank was empty, second one by about eight thirty,

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Speaker 3: third water tank empty by three am Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: There was no fourth water tank. There wasn't a fourth one.

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Speaker 2: So that's it.

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Speaker 3: Three am, no more water. And I said the policy.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they should tell us up front. Hey, the policy is,

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00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, we got maybe seventeen hours of water,

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Speaker 3: and two thirds of the water is going to be

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Speaker 3: gone after about twelve hours or so, and after seventeen

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Speaker 3: hours they'll all be gone. So because they're telling you

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Speaker 3: to flee, and you have to flee, but you're not

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Speaker 3: being protected by the government, you should know that, and

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Speaker 3: they don't care. Karen Bass went to a party in

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Speaker 3: Africa and she left two days after there were extreme

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Speaker 3: fire warnings from the National Weather Service, and she didn't

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Speaker 3: come back for three more days, and then arrived the

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Speaker 3: fourth day after she left, the sixth day after the

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Speaker 3: original warnings. Do you really think she cares when six

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Speaker 3: days elapse between the first warnings and the time her

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00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: carcass touches down here in Los Angeles? Anyway, The New

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Speaker 3: York Post profilely got named Malcolm Stewart. He had to

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Speaker 3: deal with the eaton fire, who lives near Pasadena, and

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Speaker 3: he watched the fire swallow his neighbors houses one by

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Speaker 3: one and creeping closer to the home he grew up in.

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Speaker 3: And he had not seen a single fire truck on

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Speaker 3: his street. The water supplied to his house had been cut,

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Speaker 3: leaving him and his brother without even a garden hose

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Speaker 3: to spray on the spot fires and keep the flames

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Speaker 3: from spreading to their property. His wife said, the county

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Speaker 3: did nothing. He's literally out there with dirt and a

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Speaker 3: shovel and hope. I guess he was trying to shovel

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Speaker 3: dirt maybe on the on the vegetation fire. Turns out

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Speaker 3: this happened in Ventura County. I don't know if this's

581
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: got a lot of publicity here in the LA area,

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Speaker 3: but in November they had their big fire, and the

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Speaker 3: Post says humiliated officials blamed damage pumps and the overall

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Speaker 3: lack of water, despite backup systems and protocols that allow

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Speaker 3: firefighters to draw from other sources. According to the La Times,

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Speaker 3: and crusoe Is said that there should have been backup

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Speaker 3: systems working here. The hydrants should have stayed full. A

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Speaker 3: water shortage on this scale should never happen, said Caruso.

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Speaker 3: And again, Rick knows what he's talking talking about. He

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Speaker 3: was on the DWP commission. He knows exactly how the

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Speaker 3: water system works. He has to look at the places

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Speaker 3: that he builds his shopping centers, his hotels require massive

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Speaker 3: amounts of water. You have to have intricate knowledge of

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Speaker 3: the water system. Do you think Karen Bass has that knowledge?

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Speaker 3: Is there anybody at city Hall that had detailed intricate

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Speaker 3: knowledge of the water system?

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Speaker 2: You know who should have it?

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Speaker 3: And Eric, Eric, get the clip of Genie Keinonis, because

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Speaker 3: this is the woman who now runs the DWP.

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Speaker 2: So i'm chief.

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Speaker 5: Please correct me if I'm wrong. But we were trying

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Speaker 5: to keep water at all altitudes on the Polisates and

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Speaker 5: I think about three in the morning, that's when the

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Speaker 5: hydrants went dried. Above the Brainwood area. We are able

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Speaker 5: to push water on the on that on that trunk

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Speaker 5: line on the east side of that, and we have

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Speaker 5: some water on higher elevations sixteen to eighteen thousand, but

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Speaker 5: at three thousand, all of the at three am, all

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Speaker 5: of the fire hydrants when dry, and the palisades. To

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Speaker 5: your question of climate resiliency and how do we need

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Speaker 5: to update the system, I would say.

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Speaker 2: That that is true.

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Speaker 5: We were talking with the county supervisor and Mark on

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Speaker 5: how are we going to change the way we operate

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Speaker 5: our water systems for events like this?

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Speaker 3: When I heard this earlier today, this is This is

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Speaker 3: one to make my head explode. This is the one

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Speaker 3: that will make my head explode.

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Speaker 1: Is I.

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Speaker 3: To the question about like our resiliency and about the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we have to look at it. We've got to change things.

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Speaker 3: What does she do all day? She makes seven hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars a year, and she had a

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Speaker 3: water system that failed in Pacific Palisades and over one

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Speaker 3: thousand buildings burned, and there's twenty thousand people without homes. Now,

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, the next time there's an event like this,

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00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 3: we have to, you know, come up with a better Say,

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Speaker 3: what are you talking about? It is the year twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five. We pay a woman seven hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars and after seeing this massive devastation that the

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Speaker 3: La Fire Department actually runs out of water, and she goes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, I get maybe a lot. What do you

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00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 3: think a blue rimming panel? Here, a a commission?

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Speaker 2: What is this crazy?

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Speaker 3: And she she acts like, yeah, it's just another bureaucratic problem.

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Speaker 3: Let's schedule another meeting. How about a week from friday

637
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: we get the department heads together and try to come

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Speaker 3: up with a better system. Is do you understand what

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00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: you've done to people's lives here. Do you have any

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00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: idea the lifetime suffering that all these families are going

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00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: to go through for the rest of eternity. This is

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00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: the absolute most defining moment in their lives forever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we gotta do a better system. Roll

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Speaker 2: back back. I want to hear that last last. I

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Speaker 2: don't know few lines again.

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Speaker 5: It'd say that that is true. We were talking with

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Speaker 5: the county supervisor and Mark on how are we going

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Speaker 5: to change the way we operate our water systems for

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Speaker 5: events like this. This is an unprecedented event. I think

650
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 5: the twenty eleven wins was significant from a power Irish perspective,

651
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 5: but the fires have really increased the response complexity of this.

652
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 5: We had crews trying to mitigate this and we had

653
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: to evacuate. We worked with fire department to tried to

654
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 5: get back in and try to fill the tents again.

655
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: It was safe to do.

656
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 5: So you're managing the fires, you're managing the power outage,

657
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 5: and you're managing the water needs because there was an

658
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 5: urban wildfire firefighting, so it stop stops.

659
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: She's just throwing out random phrases because there's urban water

660
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 3: fire fighting. She's describing the obvious. It's not unprecedented. There's

661
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: been hundreds of fires since California was settled.

662
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: Look at the Paradise.

663
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: Fire a few years ago up in northern California. Eighty

664
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: five people got killed. They had a one way in,

665
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: one way out situation for a lot of those people.

666
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 3: Seem like the Palisades. What do you Everything is precedented.

667
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: Everything has happened before in California. We've had massive rainstorms before,

668
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: massive droughts, heat waves, earthquakes, mudsl like, everything has happened before.

669
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 3: This is the constant state of weather. This is the

670
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: constant state of the land that we live on. It's unstable.

671
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: The weather is erratic, weather is extreme. We moved here,

672
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: my wife and I nineteen ninety two, and that first

673
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: year there were three wildfires in a single day that

674
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: they should put me in a helicopter, Ken and I

675
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 3: and we flew over Malibu out to Dina. I'man same

676
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 3: places basically, and Laguna Beach, which was maybe the worst

677
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: of them. That was my first autumn in Los Angeles.

678
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: Three fires in a single day.

679
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 2: What is this with this?

680
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 3: This unprecedented? And you know whoever it was running the city.

681
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: Back then they were competent and they were intelligent. Then

682
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: this lady starts battling bureaucratic jargon. She doesn't know what

683
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 3: she's talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have to get

684
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: gotta do better next time. Yes, sorry to you're twenty

685
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: thousand people of lives have been destroyed.

686
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: There is no excuse. Genis what's your name again? Genie Kens? Fired?

687
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: Should be fired? I don't who could fire her?

688
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: Out?

689
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: Out caring bass fired, city council fired, out fired, gone,

690
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: gross incompetence.

691
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: It's what Dr Manatty said. It's criminal negligence. That's what

692
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: this is.

693
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: This is their responsibility. This is one of those things.

694
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: You've got one job. You've got one job. When the

695
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: wildfires break out, you got to have unlimited water available,

696
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: no excuses, no reasons. Don't battle on for five and

697
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: a half minutes stating the obvious, telling well, you know

698
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: we have to do this, We had to do that,

699
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: and then this happened that Hey we've had hundreds of fires.

700
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: You should be ready. All we're asking you is to

701
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 2: bring the water. Bring the water.

702
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: Can't control the wind, can't control the heat, the humidity,

703
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 3: can't control the terrain. Although you could clear the brush out,

704
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: you can control the water supply, you forgot the water.

705
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: I don't care.

706
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: If it was three million gallons, maybe should have been

707
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 3: ten million, maybe twenty million. We send billions and billions

708
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: of gallons of water into the ocean.

709
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. Go get it.

710
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: Stop sending it out there to save the Delta smelt.

711
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 3: More reservoirs, more dams. We told you before ten years ago, borrowed,

712
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: We authorized the borrowing of seven billion dollars to create

713
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: reservoirs and dams.

714
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: Seven billion. They never spent it.

715
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: Can you imagine for all the money they have spent

716
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: on nonsense, they didn't even spend it on illegal aliens.

717
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: They didn't even spend it on the homeless.

718
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 3: They can borrow seven billion dollars for water infrastructure, didn't

719
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: do anything with it, And I don't care. I'm never

720
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: going to let go of this fact. I couldn't believe

721
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: it when we got a hold today of this information,

722
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 3: and this ought to be hung around Karen Bass's neck

723
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: till the end of time. In her budget, she spends

724
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: one point three billion dollar one point three billion dollars

725
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 3: on homeless programs eight hundred million dollars on the fire department,

726
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: and then she cut the fire department's budget by seventeen million.

727
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: You cut the fire department's budget, the homeless budget increased.

728
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's cost a lot of money sending the

729
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: homeless to those motels where they could sit in their

730
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: squalor and do their drugs and drink their booze. That's

731
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 3: where the money's going. Half a billion dollars more for

732
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 3: failed homeless programs than what we give the fire department.

733
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 2: And then the fire department shows up. Anybody bring the water?

734
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 3: No, because the management didn't supply enough for her. Again,

735
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: it's not the firefighters I'm talking about here, it's the management.

736
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: It's people like Genice Quinones seven hundred and fifty thousand

737
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: dollars a year.

738
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: All right, Neil Sevadra has shown up. Yeah, I just

739
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: heard this.

740
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: This is great.

741
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: The LAPD now has a gun share program. They're gonna

742
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 4: have four guns for the department and they're just all

743
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: gonna share.

744
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 2: All that's sweet. No water, noble, what or no guns.

745
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: I have come to the conclusion that the Republicans love

746
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: the top one percent and the Democrats love the bottom

747
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: one percent, and it's those of us in the middle skirt.

748
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: There's no party for us.

749
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: We've got homeless tumbleweeds during the wind. You know that

750
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 4: the report that you were talking about yesterday, I think

751
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: when you were saying that there was you know, how

752
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 4: many fires are started by.

753
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: Fourteen the house, Yes, fourteen. I I have been here

754
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: my whole life. I don't know what's going on. I

755
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: don't know what's going like. If you can't, if you can't.

756
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 4: Keep us safe, I mean I want you know what,

757
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna put that fill the potholes. Yeah,

758
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 4: keep us as safe as you can to the circumstance,

759
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 4: or at least allow me to keep myself safe, right,

760
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: you know, because.

761
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'll give you some wiggle room and then

762
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 2: put out the fire.

763
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: So if it's not the cops, it's not the firefighters,

764
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: it's not the potholes.

765
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: Right, what do we get out of the deal.

766
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

767
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: Nothing. I didn't get a trip to Ghana. No, to Ghana. God,

768
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: I thought it was for choke.

769
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: Honestly, when I first saw that, I thought it was

770
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 3: some kind of satire. Really, she really went to Ghana

771
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 3: after the weather forecast said extreme fire danger if if.

772
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 4: Southern California is so beautiful and so wonderful, and we

773
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 4: keep telling everybody and we love it to come here,

774
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 4: how come we can't get a mayor to stay here,

775
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 4: like just for the time that they're mayor. Right, go

776
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: do whatever you want, go to the big point. But

777
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 4: why can't we get a mayor to stay in the

778
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 4: city that's so beautiful?

779
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and keep it from burning down, or just just

780
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: a little bit of Hey, I'm you know, listen, I'm

781
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 3: not a bulldog. I don't come on the radio every

782
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 3: day for three hours and chew up the microphone.

783
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: That's your job.

784
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 4: But but logic, life is logic, right right, Yeah, that's it.

785
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 4: Emotions are fun, they're great. They get us into relationships.

786
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: That's great. You have two Deborrahs that I would never

787
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 4: get within five feet of in a relationship. I was

788
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 4: listening to you talking to Deborah on air. Debra, Yeah,

789
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 4: well on air here Debrah, and.

790
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: I go, how do you? How do you?

791
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: Or were you even laughing right now? Both of them

792
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: are nuts.

793
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: You are a collector of crazy Deborahs and that's why

794
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,959
Speaker 4: you're here at two fifteen. You're like, I'm leaving both

795
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 4: DeBras today anyway, So more than chaos. We will break

796
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: down anything you need to know. The winds in some

797
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: areas have died down. We're watching these fires pop up everywhere,

798
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 4: and everybody's gonna give you the static information only as

799
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 4: you were saying, KFI, are you gonna get very honest?

800
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: He knows what's going on.

801
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now all the all the people that we've

802
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 4: loved that brought us joy through music or film or

803
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 4: television are homeless. Maybe someone will care about them now. Yeah,

804
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: there's billions of dollars sitting around for him.

805
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: Now.

806
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 3: I know it's it's it's hard to believe, but you

807
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: know what we're not. We're not gonna cover it up.

808
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: We're gonna tell you the truth about what's going on.

809
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 3: And Neil will continue whoo by himself till five o'clock. Yeah,

810
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: good luck. We've got news live in the twenty four

811
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812
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,279
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