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Join our community at soft rep dot com. 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: That's s o f r EP dot com. Ah beat force. 20 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough. You're 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: listening to software radio, special operations, military news and straight 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: talk with the guys and the community. Yeah, okay, welcome 23 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: to Software Radio on Target on time. We're big Phil Campion, 24 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: and yes I'm away, I'm abroad and I'm lockdown. Well 25 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: where am I lockdown? I can tell you now. I 26 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: got out of the UK on the day that Spain Lockdown. 27 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: I landed in Spain and I went down to my 28 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: place in a place called al Hern, which is in 29 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: the very south of Spain, near the coast, and there 30 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: I've remained in lockdown since since before the twentieth of March, 31 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: so we've been lockdown for quite some time here. So 32 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: I thought what I'd do this this this this show, 33 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: particularly because I'm been able to get to interview anybody, 34 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: and obviously you know we're in isolation here. I'm not 35 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: a priority by any stretch of the imagination to be 36 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: going out to do anything. So I thought I'd explained 37 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: to you how life is in Spain, what we've been 38 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: doing here, and then we'll have a chat about the 39 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: UK and then we'll just see where we go from there. 40 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: Because these are interesting times for all of us, they 41 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: really are. It's it's an extremely difficult and challenging thing. 42 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, even in all my time 43 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: in the forces, all my time marauding around the world's hotspots, 44 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: this has probably proved to be one of the most 45 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: difficult things I've ever seen. So let's have a let's 46 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: have a quick chat. Then, as I spid to you, 47 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm in a place called al Hurn al Grande, which 48 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: is in southern Spain. It's near a place called ma 49 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: Baya and Malaga, Okay, which are both on the coast. 50 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm slightly up in the mountains. Now, Spain as a 51 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: holden is the worst hit European country at the moment. 52 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: I think we've overtaken Italy, who were in the original 53 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: phases of this, they were the worst hit. But I 54 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: think we've overtaken them. Now. We've had over a hundred 55 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: and seventy seven thousand cases in Spain eighteen as in 56 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: plus deaths okay, and there's still even now thousands over 57 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: active cases in Spain. It's a lot of people, a 58 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: lot of hardship. Okay. Now, let's quickly talk about how 59 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: quickly that escalated. Basically on about the four teenth of March, 60 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: people were talking about it here. It was looking quite serious, 61 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: and within within an hour or so of me getting 62 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: back off my flight. They were announcing the helicopters just 63 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: going over to us, the first one saying mount ear 64 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: for a bit. They were announcing that they were going 65 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: to lock everybody down, and I first didn't really know 66 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: what that was going to mean. Surely, surely they couldn't 67 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: don't house arrest everybody, which is effectively what's been happening 68 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: to me now. So what were the rules in it? Well, 69 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: the rules were simple, stay in. If you want to 70 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: go out, you can go to the dent the dentist, 71 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: the doctors, or for vital shopping. And vital shopping only 72 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: includes food, so food shopping was the only sort of 73 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: shopping you were going to be able to do. Other 74 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: than that, you couldn't travel in the car of anybody else. 75 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: You had to be on your own. You weren't allowed 76 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: how to exercise. If you had a dog and you 77 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: lived in a flat or a condo, that had to 78 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: you had to take it within twenty literally, let it 79 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: do its business, bring it back in again. We were 80 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: completely and still are completely locked down. Okay, And when 81 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: I look around that so many other people's interpretation of lockdown. 82 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: When I look at the UK in particular, where people 83 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: flaunt the rules left, right and center and they're still 84 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: allowed out to go to the parks and exercise and 85 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. We really have had it 86 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: at the other end of the scale here, we've had proper, 87 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: full on, hardcore lockdown. Okay, that has meant lockdown. Now, 88 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: if you don't believe me, you get onto you get 89 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: onto Google and google the Spanish police and how they've 90 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: dealt with people who've broken the rules here. They've locked 91 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: them up, They've heavily find them, they've been corralled and 92 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: beating with sticks. It really has been what I would 93 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: describe as almost martial law. It is not martial law. 94 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: It's for our own good that we are, you know, 95 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: not being allowed out. Now, the counter to all these 96 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: conspiracy theories that I'm hearing, you know, five genus and 97 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: they've done it for that and China have done it 98 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: on purpose. To me, all that stuff comes second. All right, 99 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: What is the fact for me at the moment is 100 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: that we're on lockdown and we have to adhere to 101 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: what we're being told for the good and benett of 102 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: everybody else. Now, another attitude that people have had as well, 103 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm not likely to get it. I'm too young, I'm 104 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: too fit. This thing has been taking anybody and be 105 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: you know, even if you don't get it, or even 106 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: if you do get it and get better from it, 107 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: you're taking up the time of the professionals that are 108 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: being paid to try and curb this thing, for as 109 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: health services and all those of people. You know, you're 110 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: taking their time, her best. At worst, you're passing the 111 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: disease to somebody who's not going to get through and 112 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: live the other side. So it's not been good. Some 113 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: of the stuff I've seen over here, you know, of 114 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: people fly out in the rules, and there were a 115 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: few to start off with, and that's why the police 116 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: had to get so tough. They're just starting to to 117 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: to think about relaxing measures here. Non essential workers went 118 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: to work this week for the first time that said 119 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: that was only building site workers and gardeners and people 120 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: that clean pools and that sort of stuff. It wasn't 121 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: there's no shops open, there's nothing going on. That's all 122 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: over here at the moment, and for the foreseeable future, 123 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: we really don't know when any of that sort of 124 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: stuff will come into play again because it's it's like 125 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: I say, it's a it's an extremely tough one. So 126 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: that said, what have I been doing, Well, I've been 127 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: doing a little bit. I don't have a lot of 128 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: space here. I have a I have a townhouse with 129 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: a very small garden in a very small roof terrace, 130 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: and so my activities have been eating, sleeping, loads and 131 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: loads of stuff online. I've done loads of stuff online 132 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: and if you look at my social media, it's full 133 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: of stuff that I've been learning how to do. I've 134 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: been learning to edit, I've been doing this. I've been 135 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: doing that. I've been putting stuff on online for the 136 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: Army Cadet Force, running various competitions and all that sort 137 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: of stuff. But the harsh reality of it for me 138 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: is I'm not earning either. You know, there's no work 139 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: for me at the moment, and I'm in a similar 140 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: position to millions of people around the world who are 141 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: going to be infected by this in a financial term. 142 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: I think, when I look at it, if it was 143 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: just me who was going to be affected by this, 144 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: then you know, I'd be feeling pretty hard done by. 145 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: But when we look around is everybody is going to 146 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: get some everybody is going to be put in a 147 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: position when they're pushed and pressed and have to make 148 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: things go further than that what probably would we would 149 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: do normally. Now they're gonna have to make make the 150 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 1: best of a bad job. When we come out on 151 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: the other side of this, what we who need to 152 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: do is make sure that we look after the people 153 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: around us. We keep in touch with our loved ones, 154 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: we keep in touch with people who are vulnerable, and 155 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: we try and help anybody where and wherever we can, 156 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: because there's always and I've looked around a lot now, 157 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: you've had a lot of time on your hands, which 158 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: is a commodity I don't normally get a lot of 159 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: but you look around and there's always, always, always somebody 160 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: who is worse off than you are. I mean, in 161 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: the UK our Prime Minister Boris Johnson, he's been to 162 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: the edge. He's been to the edge and back. He's 163 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: been in intensive care. I heard he was on a ventilator, 164 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: he was certainly on oxygen. You know, he's been looked after. 165 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: And no matter what your political sway is in the UK, 166 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: whether you like him or you don't like him, I 167 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't wish this disease on anybody. I really wouldn't. It 168 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: looks increasingly, you know, like anybody can get this, which 169 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: we know they can. So it's been very, very verily challenging. 170 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: And they see your own Prime Minister on the television 171 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: one day saying he felt a bit sick and then 172 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: in intensive care within a very short period of time. 173 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: It just highlighted to everybody how does how this thing 174 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: can take off very very quickly. So I don't want 175 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: to bang on completely just about coronavirus, but that's where 176 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: I stand on it. Like I say, I'm in Spain, 177 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm lockdown. If I was in the UK, i'd be 178 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: Sami lockdown if I was in the States. Right now, 179 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: you guys are locked down as well. There's not a 180 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: person on this planet at the moment who is not 181 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: going to affect. And you know, I hope, I really 182 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: hope that we all get through this. Obviously, we're going 183 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: to take some hits along the way. In any conflict, 184 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: you'll take hits along the way. I view this as 185 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: a conflict. I view our nurses and doctors and our 186 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: health workers are on the front line of this conflict. 187 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: You know, they're they're extremely brave people. Some of these 188 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: they're going to work, they know that they might contract 189 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: the disease themselves, and though they might not survive the disease, 190 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: and so you know they are They are the soldiers, 191 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: they are the warriors, They are the ones on the 192 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: front line. They are the ones producing the goods at 193 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: the moment, and all we can do is sit back 194 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: and watch and hopefully, you know, this will pass. If 195 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: there is an opportunity whereby I can make a difference 196 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: for somebody and help the numbers, there will. But until then, 197 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: the best thing I can do to help is keep 198 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: myself out of the way, listen to what's going on 199 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: around me, and adhere to the rules that are being 200 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: put on on onto me, and not make a hindrance 201 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: of myself, so that we basically stand the best chance 202 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: of getting through this without me passing on to somebody 203 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: else if I had it. So there we go. That's 204 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: that's I didn't want to. I didn't want to linger 205 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: on the coronavirus. We've talked about it for a good 206 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: ten minutes now, and I'm going to put it to bed. There. 207 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: That's all I really want to talk about today. I 208 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: want to look forward to coming out the other side 209 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: of this, And we were talking about this, me and Wendy. 210 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: It's a good job I get on with my partner, 211 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: by the way, because we've been locked down now for 212 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: quite some type together, the longest I think I've ever 213 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: been at home, and I was chatting and ended every day, 214 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: and I said, the other end of this, the other 215 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: side of this, what's it going to be like? Are 216 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: you going to go running out the door when they 217 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: say you can finally go out? Are you're gonna be 218 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: a bit too meaty? You're going to go well? Because 219 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm half expecting for them to say, right, okay, lockdowns 220 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: up over and people are going to go back out, 221 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: And then I think there might be another another pop 222 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: at this. I think there might be another sort of 223 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: like flare up where I think we might even get 224 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: lockdown again. So I certainly might be running into the 225 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: first bar and jumping around and carrying people on my 226 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: shoulders and singing and drinking and yelling in yup yar. 227 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: And because I think that would be responsible, I think 228 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: we've got to accept that we've got to be very 229 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: careful when we come out of the other side of this, 230 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: because we don't know who's got it and who hasn't 231 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: got it, and there's not enough medical stuff post this 232 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: that we know about at the moment. That gives me 233 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence. 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I worked up and down on the anti 260 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: paracy side of things, Togo, Nigeria, and of course I 261 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: served in Sierra Leone, where I was part of the 262 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: hostage rescue mission way back in two thousands, which is 263 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: actually twenty years ago this year. But the reason I 264 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: wanted to go to West Africa was one story of 265 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: what I tell you today about Togo and Togo lovely 266 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: placed um, beautiful beaches, great coastline, all the attributes of 267 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: a West African country, but completely unstable. And what we 268 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: would find in West Africa would be that some countries 269 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: would be stable for a period and then the neighboring 270 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: countries would be arguing with each other that it would 271 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: all spill out into a full on war, and then 272 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: you'd get a displacement of people. They'd move into the 273 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: next country, then they start arguing. The whole thing would 274 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: go round and round and round, basically by a displacement 275 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: of people caused by agro in flaming countries that would 276 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: probably have stayed peaceful for years. So that's how it 277 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: went in West Africa. And I certainly you know, when 278 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: I first went to Marley, Marley was peaceful, but that's 279 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: now in tatters. Places like Guinea had had loads and 280 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: loads of that. They had a sort of almost a 281 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: coup in Guinea just before I got there. So it's 282 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: a very very volatile place West Africa, and I thought 283 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: i'd just share with you a story when you're when 284 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: you're traveling through these places as a white man, you 285 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: have to be very, very careful because the place has 286 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: been flooded over the years with people trying to topple 287 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: various governments, and especially places like South Africa, a lot 288 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: of the soldiers from there who needed to earn decent 289 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: money would disappear up in the West Africa and take 290 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: part in all sorts of coups. So when you were 291 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: sort of like in the at firsties to forties, a 292 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: male white traveling through West Africa, sometimes I was on 293 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: your own and I was on the on the story, 294 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I was traveling on my own. 295 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: It's a fair assumption to the authorities that you could 296 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: be a paramilitary type, and especially my appearance. I've never 297 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: been had shaped my appearance. You know, I'm a fairly 298 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: big lad. You know I've got short hair. I fit 299 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: the description of a mercenary straightaway. So I draw the 300 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: attention of the authorities. Every time I go into a 301 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: West African country, I'll attract some sort of attention, and 302 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: certainly in places are Guinea, I even got followed and 303 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: tailed and all sorts of stuff, and it was quite 304 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: it was quite obvious that they wanted to know my whereabouts. 305 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: And very often I would travel and say the people, 306 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a I'm health and safety or I'm 307 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: a consultant for the rig. I'd never ever ever used 308 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: the word security, because as soon as you tire yourself 309 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: into the security world, it's like it's like putting a 310 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: magnet on your head to pull in as much trouble 311 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: as you ever could. So I never used to do that. 312 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: Whenever I was in West Africa, I was always a 313 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: health and safety consultant. Where I was a consultant full stop, 314 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: or there was always some reason for me to be 315 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: there other than security. However, every time I was there 316 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: it was to do with security, and Togo was no 317 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: was no exception. I went to Togo. I was supposed 318 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: to be joining a ship. Now Togo has got a 319 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: massive coastline and we were going to be getting on 320 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: a ship, and I was going to be going with 321 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: four other people from Togo as my escorts and escorting 322 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: the ship. And that's how it was out there. You'd 323 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: have a you have an expat. I flew in the 324 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: Lone Airport, which is a capital of Togo. Before I 325 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: had left from London, I've been asked if I could 326 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 1: undergo an anti piracy tasking which was to be taking 327 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: four local lads onto a ship. They would be armed, 328 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: I'd be unarmed. However, I was allowed to take body armor, helmet, etcetera, etcetera. Now, 329 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: before I left, the company in the UK assured me 330 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: that I had all the right credentials and paperwork for 331 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: this body armor, because traveling into a West African country 332 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: with body armor presents you with massive challenges if you 333 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: don't have the right paperwork. So I sat down with 334 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: the office in the afternoon in London when for all 335 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: the paperwork went for all the all the gear that 336 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: they wanted me to take with me. There were some 337 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: binoculars there, there was some GPS stuff, There was a 338 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: satellite phone, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, all the normal stuff that 339 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: you would expect to take on an anti piracy task, 340 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: except weapons which were being supplied and used by these 341 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: local guys in Toga. Not a problem. I didn't have 342 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: a drama, that's whatsoever. The shipping company I was going 343 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: to be working for, for a Swedish shipping company. I've 344 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: worked with them before. There was no real drama. We 345 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: were literally going to be dropping some fuel off somewhere, 346 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: probably down in Nigeria, coming back out again. I'd get 347 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: off and the thing would disappear. Fine, happy with that, 348 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: What a great trip. Okay. It was good money in 349 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: them days as well. Okay. I was eLearning, you know, 350 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: circle five, six, seven hundred dollars a day sometimes, So 351 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: it was all right. So without further ado without questioning anybody. 352 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: I jumped on a flight down to low. When I 353 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: got to Loan, I remember getting off the plane, got 354 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: through customs, all right, got not through customs. I got 355 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: through the passport control. Okay, a bit of a cue, 356 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: but it normally is in a West African country. You've 357 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: got a cue there. Didn't really put any third party attention. 358 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: That fares weren't really interested in me. You know, a 359 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: quick look up and down. Are you on your own? Yes, 360 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm on my own. It wasn't a problem. Things were 361 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: going swimming lee. I thought, this is awesome. It's going 362 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: to be caught, not going to get through the other side. 363 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: I've got all the paperwork, everything's correct. As we came out, 364 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: I've got my bags. They came straight around the conveyor belt. 365 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: Not a problem there. So the bags were there, got 366 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: the bags not go trolley and started pushing them out 367 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: towards the towards the green channel. Nothing to declare now 368 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: in Togo at the time, and I probably would imagine 369 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: still now, it wasn't a case that you just walked through. 370 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Every bag was put through a scanner. So as I 371 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: got to go through the green channel, I got called 372 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: to one side, and my bags were taken off me 373 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: and put onto the onto the conveyor belt and they 374 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: were through the through the X ray machine. I didn't 375 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: have a problem with that. This is when things started 376 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: to change. I saw the guy who was watching the 377 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: television monitor stop the monitor and pull the first bag 378 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: back through into the machine, and I'm like, why is 379 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: he doing that? I look in and he looks at me. 380 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: He sends it through again. He's not happy. It stops 381 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: on the other side, and as I got to pick 382 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: it up, no, no, sir, leave it there. Then the 383 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: other one goes through again. Scrutiny. They're both through. Now 384 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to pick up either of my bags. 385 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: They ask me what I'm doing, and I tell them 386 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: I say, I'm I'm working as health and safety on 387 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: a ship and I'll be staying in a hotel near 388 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: Loan and getting on the ship tomorrow. And here's my paperwork, 389 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: and all my paperwork I had on me backed it 390 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: all up. Okay, sir, why do you need these equipments 391 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: in here? And they pointed out straight away. They opened 392 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: the bag they're in. There's body armor, there's a helmet, 393 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: there's the GPS stuff. There's buyos. Why do you need 394 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: all this gear? When I say, you know we you 395 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: know you ex variance piracy on your coast here, I've 396 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: never you know, up and asked if I can wear 397 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: this stuff while I'm on board, and as a health 398 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: and safety representative, it's best if I wear the protective 399 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: clothing I've been issued, and I put that, I'll bring 400 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: out the paperwork and I'll give them the paperwork. About 401 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: five minutes into reading the paperwork, which I thought was 402 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: an extraordinary long time, the guy says, this is no good. 403 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: And now there's two or three other people in the 404 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: background who stepped forward in in uniform, in police uniform, 405 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: and they're all arguing. They're pulling the kit about, they're 406 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: getting it out, they're looking at it, they're staring at it, 407 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: they're pulling it around, they're they're always it's like they're 408 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: sizing up who's going to keep it. And then a 409 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: guy with a suit comes along. And as soon as 410 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: you've got over the soup comes along. You know you're 411 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: in the ship, all right. So he says to me, 412 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: he says, are you a mercenary? Straight up like that? 413 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: Are you a mercenary? No? No, I'm not a mercenary. 414 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm health and safety. I'm going to work on a 415 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: ship which is going to Nigeria from here and we 416 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: fear there may be pirates on there, and I'm there 417 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: to make sure that the health and safety is in 418 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: place and we have security from your country. So you're 419 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: a security guard. No, I'm not a security I'm health 420 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: and safety. Why do you have body armor? Because I 421 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: need body armor. You can see the conversation going round 422 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: and round and round and round. It was horrendous. Anyway, 423 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: Eventually they stay to me, you won't be going on 424 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: the ship se They take me out, take me away 425 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: and put me in the back of a van. I think, no, 426 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to get arrested here. So in my pocket, 427 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: I've got my satellite phone, one of my satphones, one 428 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: of the old garments with the big arm on the 429 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: side of antenna. I'm want it straight away back to 430 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: the office. They stopped me from making the phone call. 431 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: They take the phone from me and they put me 432 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: in the back of his fan and they drive me out, 433 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: not far from the airport. But I can't really guess 434 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: where I'm going. And it must have been another another another, 435 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: another police station somewhere. I can't really remember the way 436 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,239 Speaker 1: that much because I was in the back of his fan. 437 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: I couldn't really see anything out. And when I got 438 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: to the other and they pulled me straight out and 439 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: there was a container, a shipping container, and they put 440 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: me in this shipping container. Now, I can tell you now, 441 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: but in some stinking places in my life, but this 442 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: shipping container was one of the stinkiest places I've ever been. 443 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: They get in this shipping container and the only window 444 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: in there is about knee height, and it's not really 445 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: a nit window. It's just a whole cutting the metal 446 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: with bars across it, so you can't get out of it. 447 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: And it's only a tiny I could only if I 448 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: could only have got my head out of it, if 449 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: I could get anything out of it. So there's no 450 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: chance I'm going to escape from this thing, and they 451 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: just leave me in there. Now, I can tell you now, 452 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: Togo isn't a cold place. It's proper hot. And god 453 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: knows how many other people must have been kept in 454 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: this thing before me, or how long I had even 455 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: been there. I didn't know it was stinking. People must 456 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: have been urinating in it, defecating in it, sicking in it, 457 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: you name it. It was probably one of the most 458 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: unhealthiest places I've ever been on this planet. Anyway. I've 459 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: been there for what seems like ages, and then I'm 460 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: brought out. I'm taking into a building which is next 461 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: door to it, into a table wood as a guy 462 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: sat beyond a desk who starts interrogating me again as 463 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: to what I'm doing in the country, why am I here? 464 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: And I have to make a series of phone calls 465 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: between them the office back in London. It's all done 466 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: on my stat phone. They've got no phone capability whatsoever, 467 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: so all this stuff I'm trying to justify has all 468 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: been done on phone. Eventually, when we've didn't been in 469 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: there for about another half hour, they sent me back 470 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: out again. This happened two or three times, and I 471 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: went back to the container, out the container, in the container, 472 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: out the container. Sometimes they would question me and the container. 473 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: I was getting really fed up of it and no food, 474 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: no water, no nothing, And eventually they come and get 475 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: me out. They dragged me off up into the office 476 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: again and I get told that I won't be getting 477 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: on a ship and that I'm going to be held 478 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: under arrest in a hotel. So they take me out 479 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: of this hotel. First, all I did when I got there, 480 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: I went to the room and there's a policeman stood 481 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: outsid'll be room. It was horrendous. I could only have 482 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: room service come to the room, so it was a limited, 483 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: limited choice of food. It wasn't a great hotel. Else, 484 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: I knew the room service wasn't gonna be any better. 485 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: And I had some sort of rice and curry type 486 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: thing with some French bread. The French bread, actually, to 487 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: be fair, it was quite nice, but everything else was 488 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: pretty stinking. And I remember I was then kept there 489 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: for another couple of days before they put me on 490 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: another flight and sent me back to the UK. Then 491 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: when I got back to the UK, I found up 492 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: the guy that had been working for and uh, he said, 493 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: because I hadn't done the because I hadn't done the transit, 494 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't paying me for it either. You can imagine 495 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: my face. Absolutely no chance on earth was I not 496 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: being paid for this job. I remember either all the 497 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: phone calls with him arguing with his fellow, and eventually 498 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: I managed to get paid, but only before I threatened 499 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: to take a trip up to London and go and 500 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: visit him in person. But I got paid, So that 501 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: was that was one of my West African experiences. I thought. 502 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: I shared that with you just to just to let 503 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: you know that it's not the first time big Field's 504 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: been in lockdown before, even though hotel lockdown in Togo 505 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: was probably worse than the than the house arrest I'm 506 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: in at the moment in Spain. But there you go. 507 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: Certainly was there's nothing here that compares with the container 508 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: that I was putting because that was absolutely full on, 509 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: proper stinking. It was honking, it really was. I'll give 510 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: you some more stories from West Africa next time. I'm 511 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: on some cracking ones from Guinea and that really have. Yeah, 512 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 1: West Africa proper place to be. But there you go, 513 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: more of that next time. Okay, let's just wrap us 514 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: up here then, Um, what have we got to look 515 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: forward to? Well, it's all doom and gloom. If you 516 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 1: tune into the to the mainstream media to get yourself 517 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: in here for a bit of fun. Soft Rep always 518 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: got some cool things going on. Don't forget to check 519 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: out the Create Club. 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