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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, welcome to the show Thursday night. That means

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Speaker 1: it's special. It's the General. John McClain joining us on

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Speaker 1: the program tonight following a no TA session that we

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Speaker 1: took in at the Houston Methodist Training Center. Mark vandermir,

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Speaker 1: John Harris, and John McClain. Good evening, gentlemen, Hello and general.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Ota number two that the media happened

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Speaker 1: to see. They've been out there for all sorts of

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Speaker 1: practice sessions overall, Well, I wanted.

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Speaker 2: To see Stefan Diggs, of course, he looked really good.

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Speaker 2: Passing game looked really good, whether they were just messing

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Speaker 2: around or whether they're doing seven oh seven. Stroud was

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Speaker 2: so sharp, and we asked nico'collins and Joe Mixon and

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Speaker 2: the interviews about I think it was Bill Barnwell's and

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Speaker 2: when he had a superlative for each team. Texans is

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Speaker 2: the most likely to petition the league to play with

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Speaker 2: two footballs because they've got so many offensive weapons. And

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Speaker 2: I'm writing a story for Houston Texans, not about mixing

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Speaker 2: and do you guys know, let's see, he scored, he

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Speaker 2: ran for nine touchdowns. Last year, Texans had met a

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Speaker 2: run back and run for nine touchdowns. Since Arion Foster

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Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, Texas has been terrible at running the

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Speaker 2: ball close to the go line. And that's one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons they got Mixing is he has a knack

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Speaker 2: for it. So I'm looking forward to writing this story

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Speaker 2: because he's gonna walk the ball. You know, body's lug

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Speaker 2: wants to run it better. And then oh yeah, they

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Speaker 2: paid Dalton Schultz to bring him back. It's a great

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Speaker 2: problem for Bobby Slock to have. And those guys look

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Speaker 2: really good in an Ota.

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Speaker 3: It's a jam band that's got to figure out how

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Speaker 3: to work together as a concert band, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Now that you my music analogy kind of right. You

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Speaker 3: got a bunch of soloists that I got to come together.

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Speaker 3: There's that you gotta get a bunch of soloists to

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Speaker 3: come together and play together as a team.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying they're you know, that's the way

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Speaker 4: they think.

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Speaker 3: But when you're bringing in mixing and you bringing in

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Speaker 3: dig you had you know, now Schultz you know was

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Speaker 3: from Dallas and came in, you got to get that

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Speaker 3: to work harmoniously. And there was at one point, John

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Speaker 3: when they were just doing some kind of walk through stuff,

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Speaker 3: and they ran through a route and they had everybody

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Speaker 3: running a route that was eligible, and it was mixing

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Speaker 3: Schultz digs, Tank Nico and I.

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Speaker 4: Just thought, well, I haven't seen that before.

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Speaker 3: I mean literally, I haven't seen that before, but just

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Speaker 3: in years past, haven't seen anything like that.

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Speaker 4: Where do you kind of rank, if you will, their.

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Speaker 3: Their offensive explosion on paper compared to Texans teams, maybe

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Speaker 3: even some of the greater Oilers teams.

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Speaker 2: Well, think about the Texans teams when they had Foster

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Speaker 2: and Andree. You had one of the best running backs

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Speaker 2: in the league. You didn't have a great quarterback. And

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Speaker 2: the Texan's the only great quarterback they've had is Watson.

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Speaker 2: We all know what happened to that. And now they

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Speaker 2: got a great quarterback with Stroud.

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Speaker 1: Matt shob is on the phone and with like a word.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the only ge he gets would be good

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Speaker 1: And no quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And so the Oilers they had Warren Moon who was

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, George playing his Hall of Famer and

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Speaker 2: they threw the ball a lot. And I know the

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Speaker 2: Oilers would like to hear this because they would. Jeffries,

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Speaker 2: Ernest Givens, Drew Hill, and Curtis Duncan were great foursome.

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Speaker 2: But on paper, at least, what we've seen from tankdlle

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Speaker 2: until he went out for the season, what we've seen

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Speaker 2: from Diggs for his old career, Nico for one season,

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Speaker 2: and then Dalton Schultz. You know this, to me, this

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Speaker 2: is as good as any foursome in the league other

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Speaker 2: than the forty nine ers, probably tied with a Lions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the best the Texans I've ever had.

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Speaker 1: When you do the on paper stuff, they gotta play together. Well,

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Speaker 1: they have to prove that they can do it on

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Speaker 1: the field together. But think about it back in the

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Speaker 1: day when you had Owen Daniels, Hary and Foster Andre Johnson.

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Speaker 1: That's a hell of a trio right there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: as far as three guys, that's amazing. Quarterback match Shop.

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Speaker 1: Not as good as quarterback CJ. Stroud, we agree on that.

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Speaker 1: But then the other two receivers that would factor in

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Speaker 1: was in that offense, it's not this I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is ridiculous. I saw Nico Collins make some amazing plays today,

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Speaker 1: and I saw Diggs. We'll get to him. The route

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Speaker 1: running of Stefan Diggs makes your eyes pop out in OTAs,

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Speaker 1: I know, but that is something that you can kind

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Speaker 1: put the brakes on him, for sure, and tak Dell

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Speaker 1: was catching everything, and Steven Simms had a great practice

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Speaker 1: and Metchi caught everything, so it was a fun practice general.

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Speaker 3: Before we react to that, I thought about this so

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Speaker 3: as talking guy can remember, remember you and I were talking.

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Speaker 3: I've done a lot of podcasts lately, and I just thought,

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Speaker 3: Diggs on this turf inside at least nine times, and

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Speaker 3: then three other games are inside. That is going to

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Speaker 3: hi him regardless of where he lines up, because he's

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Speaker 3: so sudden and out of his breaks playing inside it

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Speaker 3: for this, this team is made to play inside, which

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Speaker 3: the ones you mentioned in general, that the Drew Hill group,

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Speaker 3: that group, they were Jeffers Webster Slaughter. They were made

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Speaker 3: to play inside as well. Hopefully they can play all

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Speaker 3: right outside. But let's get to Nico Collins.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we don't think we've talked about that.

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Speaker 3: Nico Collins. You mentioned the one year, it was a

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Speaker 3: really good one year. He gets the deal. There are

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Speaker 3: gonna be a bunch of receivers that get deals this summer,

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Speaker 3: but the Texans get out in front.

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Speaker 4: They get Nico done. Your thoughts about Nico getting the.

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Speaker 2: Deal, So you think the roof's not going to be open, Huh,

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Speaker 2: they'll be rain within a thousand miles. I think this

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Speaker 2: Diggs is never First of all, Diggs has never played

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Speaker 2: on team at receivers like this, right, he's not gonna

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Speaker 2: get the ball the highest percentage that he did with

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Speaker 2: with Buffalo and Josh Allen. Now on a one year contract,

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Speaker 2: he's playing for money. Nico's not playing for money. I

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Speaker 2: asked Nico while go his contract will expire when he's

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Speaker 2: twenty seven years old. He's got a chance to make

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Speaker 2: even more money. And his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. I believe

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Speaker 2: they did a great job. And Nick Casio doesn't like

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Speaker 2: giving out long term contracts. He wants them to produce.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a great contract for Nico. You didn't

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Speaker 2: want both these guys to be up at the same time,

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Speaker 2: even though you can franchise one of them. But we

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Speaker 2: all thought Niko's extension was coming before the season. He

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Speaker 2: earned it and I wrote a column today is on

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans dot com about it. Sends a powerful message

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Speaker 2: to every other player. You work hard, you be a

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Speaker 2: good culture fit, you produce on the field, you get paid.

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Speaker 2: And the fact is if you don't get paid, but

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Speaker 2: the Texans should be like Sheldon Rankins. He did all

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Speaker 2: that in one year. He got paid by the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: So it's a great message to send to other players,

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Speaker 2: especially those whose contracts are expiring or they're hoping for

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Speaker 2: an extension.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's just me stuff to see him get paid

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Speaker 1: like that, rewarded and you feel so happy for the kid.

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Speaker 1: General and John two, John Harris two, Am I right

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Speaker 1: to say this? I think Nico Collins leads this team

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Speaker 1: in yards. I think Diggs leads them in catches. I

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Speaker 1: think Tank might be third overall and maybe second in

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Speaker 1: one or the other category, you know, yards or catches.

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Speaker 2: It laid them an average per catch.

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Speaker 1: Average per catch could could last year was Noah Brown.

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Speaker 1: You know, we haven't even talked about him. He's still

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Speaker 4: It's wild.

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Speaker 1: Robert Woods at a good practice today. But anyway, do

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Speaker 1: you think that's it? Nico and yards digs and catches.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great way to put it. And

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Speaker 2: Tank's going to be a deep guy. You know, a

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Speaker 2: lot of Nicos yardage came on breaking tackles. There's not

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Speaker 2: a lot of receivers do a better job breaking tackles.

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Speaker 2: He's six. I went back to the combine. He's actually

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Speaker 2: a little over six y four. He told me last year.

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Speaker 2: He weighs two twenty two, two fifteen. All the weights

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Speaker 2: are wrong, but uh, he weighs two twenty two. He

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Speaker 2: wanted to be He got stronger. That was one of

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Speaker 2: his goals last season, get stronger. And you could see

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Speaker 2: it when he broke so many tackles where Tank, and

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Speaker 2: you know Tank didn't wasn't a speed demon. At the

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Speaker 2: combine he ran in four fours. But he still has

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Speaker 2: an act for getting open deep. What I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to see is what slowly does you know? Who's he

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Speaker 2: going to send deep to clear out? I mean it's

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Speaker 2: going to be a nightmare for opposing defensive coordinators and

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Speaker 2: they better get pressure on Strip because if he has

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Speaker 2: so many options, and and you know, if they score quick,

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Speaker 2: they need to have long drives, so they have a

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Speaker 2: And because if you score real quick, and like if

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Speaker 2: you're catching a deep deep pass with Dell and I

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Speaker 2: think there will be a lot of those as well.

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Speaker 2: And uh, I'm excited to see it. And I'm excited

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Speaker 2: to see mixing too. You know, Mixon, he's averaged over

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be fun to watch. And I was standing

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Speaker 3: He is in her pair department, and Joe was standing

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Speaker 3: big like he is he is devis well, right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's right. We're used to looking at Motor. Speaking of pressure,

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Speaker 3: General Denial Hunter was at OTA's. Number fifty five was

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Speaker 3: at OTA's and you and I and Mark we've all

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Speaker 3: talked about how look it's a passing camp. The defensive

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Speaker 3: Lineono could do a whole lot, But just seeing him

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Speaker 3: eyes on Hunter on one side will Anderson on the

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Speaker 3: other and you start to get excited about that. His

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Speaker 3: thoughts about seeing Daniel Hunter and then what that can

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Speaker 3: look like at the edge rushing position.

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Speaker 4: And I'll ask you, this is enough? Do they have

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Speaker 4: enough at the on the edge with Will, with d'anil.

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen Denico yet, a Nica autry he might

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Speaker 3: bump inside on pass rush downs. Is there enough on

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Speaker 3: the edge that you I feel good about what they

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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, And if you're a fan, you should worry

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Speaker 2: about the tackles. You go from thirty seconds to sixth

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Speaker 2: against the run and you set a franchise record in

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Speaker 2: sacks and you're replacing three year defensive lineman including both tackles.

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Speaker 2: And we asked Matt Burke about it today and he

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Speaker 2: talked about Tim Saddle and foly flow Cassi and then

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Speaker 2: he got high Nish back and you've got Khalil Davis,

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Speaker 2: who may be the most underrated player on the team back.

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Speaker 2: So they got four guys there, but who's going to

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Speaker 2: give him six sacks like rankings? And I think Malik

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Speaker 2: only had three, But that's what to me. The interior

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Speaker 2: Deniko Audrey. Since he turned thirty, he's averaged nine sacks

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Speaker 2: a season, and some of them inside, most of them outside.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's get some big leads and let those

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of talk coming from Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, I'd say about a six because

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Speaker 1: Four Texans opponents. We talk about some of these outstanding

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Speaker 1: I Am going to give you an expansion franchise and

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Speaker 1: But you cannot choose Andy Reid or John Harbaugh. So

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Speaker 2: That makes it too easy.

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Speaker 1: Just as you can this is talk Radio, those have

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Speaker 2: You're taking a coordinator letting Nathaniel Hackett.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's basically why he said trust him, because he

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Speaker 4: He will be vetoing your pick.

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Speaker 4: I like the little floor pick. I like that. I'll

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Speaker 1: No, he's aid preseason opponents.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, I'm talking about guys. We have to

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Speaker 1: Have to beat.

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Speaker 3: You know what I like, I'll tell you. I like

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell. Oh, I like Kevin O'Connell. I mean he

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Speaker 4: I said that.

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Speaker 3: But there's something I like about Kevin O'Connell. I just

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Speaker 3: I don't think that Kirk cousins. I think they wanted

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Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see we're a coach.

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell is because he's gonna have JJ McCarthy. But

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Speaker 2: Hey, on one second. I got a story about Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 2: Do it. When Johnny Manziel was in a draft, I

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Speaker 2: So I watched him, wrote a lot about it. But

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Speaker 2: So that's how I meant. Cliff was at the computer

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Speaker 4: They have done quite well.

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Speaker 4: John, But you had Nico signing.

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Speaker 3: We already had Amara Rossaint Brown sign, you had Nico

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Speaker 2: But it's important to Mike McDaniel will have a great offense,

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Speaker 2: Then I think Jefferson everything they want to do with

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Speaker 1: He needs more money. And Tua what do they do

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Speaker 1: Not that I want to take on dolphin problems on

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Speaker 1: sudden become a very competitive division. I think New England's

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Speaker 2: I think the Texans better hope McCarthy's starting by Van

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Speaker 2: and Cincinnati with borrowback and h But I I do

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Speaker 2: think this that uh, well, Trevor Lawrence or To talking

434
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Speaker 2: about loa, which one's gonna sign next? I'm guessing to

435
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Speaker 2: But that's quite in the and the Jaguars are talking

436
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Speaker 2: quite a bit about Trevor, And usually if you're not

437
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Speaker 2: about to pull the trigger, you don't talk about it.

438
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Speaker 2: You keep it quiet. So I'm guessing Trevor and then Tua.

439
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Speaker 3: I would imagine that's probably the way it's going to go.

440
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Speaker 3: And I think that's a mistake. I think Tuas should

441
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Speaker 3: get paid. He's I mean, you get I don't want

442
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Speaker 3: to say he's lean duck going into year five, but

443
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Speaker 3: he's kind of lame duck going into year five in sense, and.

444
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Speaker 4: Then you got Trevor. And what is Trevor really proven?

445
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Speaker 4: I don't know that.

446
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Speaker 2: It's not a generational quarterback.

447
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Speaker 1: He's not. But and you know how I feel about Lawrence.

448
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Speaker 1: My feeling right now today, and I could change my

449
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Speaker 1: mind about this tomorrow is I would sign Trevor Lawrence,

450
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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't sign him to a mega max quarterback

451
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Speaker 1: type deal.

452
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Speaker 2: I would say, listen, if he says and he and

453
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Speaker 2: you then that were not side dig in, then you

454
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Speaker 2: got a franchise him the next year, and then you

455
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Speaker 2: got distraction, you got bad blood.

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Speaker 1: Well he's going into year four, yes, I feel like

457
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Speaker 1: you let him play it out like too. It is

458
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Speaker 1: I could ride that into year five or prior to

459
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Speaker 1: year five and talk to him and say, listen, let's

460
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Speaker 1: let's see how he does in twenty twenty four. If

461
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Speaker 1: he does great, okay, now let.

462
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Speaker 4: Him bet on himself.

463
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Speaker 1: If he's not a manager guy going into the fifth year,

464
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say to him, you're not going to

465
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Speaker 1: be that much better in year five. I wouldn't say

466
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Speaker 1: it like that, right, want him to be better for

467
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars organization. But I'd come up with a plan

468
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Speaker 1: that way. But remember it's Jacksonville. They've looked for a

469
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Speaker 1: quarterback since Mark Brunnell. They have not been able to

470
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Speaker 1: find their guy. Bortles. They had one great year with him,

471
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Speaker 1: Garard was pretty good, but come on, they have a quarterback.

472
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Speaker 1: They should be able to at least get to the

473
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Speaker 1: playoffs with him. Back to back winning season, see what

474
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Speaker 1: they can do.

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Speaker 3: I feel like if they're gonna give him a contract

476
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Speaker 3: this summer, they're gonna get they're gonna I don't think

477
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Speaker 3: they're gonna get a quote unquote discount. But if he

478
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Speaker 3: turns it around in year four betting on himself like

479
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Speaker 3: one Joe Flacco once did. Remember Joe Flacco betting on himself?

480
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Speaker 3: Pretty good deal done. The year five, twenty twelve, what

481
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Speaker 3: do you do? He goes on a massive run in

482
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Speaker 3: the playoffs, wins a super Bowl, and gets paid way

483
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Speaker 3: more than they ever thought about.

484
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Speaker 4: So true, it's gonna be interesting to watch, that's for sure.

485
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Speaker 3: General play out the situation in Dallas this year for

486
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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy, how do you think it goes for him?

487
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Speaker 1: What about Dak?

488
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Speaker 2: I think they Dack will sign an extension before the season.

489
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Speaker 2: They won't win the division. Philadelphia will because that that

490
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Speaker 2: division winner never rebeats, right, But they'll make the playoffs

491
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Speaker 2: and then they'll get beat. McCarthy be fired.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good stuff, good stuff. Listen to me, Sorry, coach McCarthy. General,

493
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Speaker 1: you mentioned it. You have articles on Houston Texans dot com.

494
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Speaker 4: Tell us I do.

495
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: I got a lot of them on there, and I

496
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Speaker 2: have won yesterday about Nico and why he was deserving

497
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Speaker 2: of his contract, And then I've got one now I'm

498
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Speaker 2: going to be on Joe Mixing about how long it's

499
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 2: been since they've run the ball well, since Arion was here,

500
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Speaker 2: and how he can be the answer, especially because of

501
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Speaker 2: his nose for the end zone, which they haven't had

502
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Speaker 2: anybody since Arian and even Carlos I couldn't score touchdowns

503
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Speaker 2: and he had a thousand yards. And then I'm going

504
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Speaker 2: to do one next week about five players, not necessarily

505
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Speaker 2: the best, not necessarily the most publicized, but five players

506
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Speaker 2: who have to play the way they're capable for this

507
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Speaker 2: team to have a chance to realize it's Super Bowl aspirations.

508
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Speaker 3: Number one, Tommy Townsend to counter he has to play

509
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Speaker 3: well he does.

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Speaker 1: I hope he had a good punch performance. I hope

511
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Speaker 1: that great hair stays in the sidelines.

512
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Speaker 2: Titus Hour is one of them.

513
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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, was another one.

514
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Speaker 2: Patres another one.

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Speaker 1: All right, okay, can't wait for the rest.

516
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Speaker 2: Christians another one. Christian Haret Mason was one. Now I

517
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: gotta get rid.

518
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Speaker 1: Of you said to name everybody on the team.

519
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Speaker 2: I don't mind telling you all the top five.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's good.

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Speaker 2: I need another one though.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll come up with something general.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Thank you guys very much. As always, all.

524
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Speaker 1: Right, coming up next, we're going to talk about the

525
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Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Power Index.

526
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Speaker 4: What is that?

527
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Speaker 1: We will explain also more on the route running of

528
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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs and some other things about the Texans. Is

529
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Speaker 1: there a position group of concerned depth wise? We will

530
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Speaker 1: discuss here on Texans. All access. Back to the show

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Speaker 1: we go, Mark Vandermere and John Harris with you as.

532
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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about this, Johnny, the power Index.

533
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Speaker 1: But before we do that, we were on with the

534
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Speaker 1: general first segment talked about the ot as. I don't

535
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Speaker 1: know if I emphasized enough, and I wanted to get

536
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Speaker 1: your take on it, you know, watching OTAs for twenty

537
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Speaker 1: three years. I don't know if I've ever seen route

538
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: running the way I saw it today, certain elements of it. Anyway,

539
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: And my son called me after practice. He said, hey,

540
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: how'd they look out there? It's OTA's you know, he

541
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Speaker 1: can't tell much, all right, how'd they look? He wanted

542
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Speaker 1: to know how Will Anderson looked. I mean Will Anderson

543
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Speaker 1: and OTAs he's out there.

544
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Speaker 4: It's great.

545
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: But the receivers versus the DB's, you do see some things.

546
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: You do see some things here, and we saw Diggs

547
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: and Nico looked great today, as I mentioned in segment one.

548
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: But Johnny Diggs his ability to turn on a dime

549
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: so fast, honestly. And you look, we've had elite receivers here.

550
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Speaker 1: We've had a Hall of Famer here, Andre Johnson. We

551
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Speaker 1: might have another one in DeAndre Hopkins when it's all

552
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: said and done. And I will not take anything away

553
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: from those guys, but just the route running, crispness of

554
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Speaker 1: a dig's. I don't know, maybe it's not as good

555
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Speaker 1: as those guys, Maybe I just haven't seen them for

556
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Speaker 1: a while, But I thought that that was a really

557
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: notable thing to go along with the rest of the array.

558
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: Of talent they had out there.

559
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say it was fun to watch Brandon

560
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Speaker 4: Cooks run his routes.

561
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Speaker 3: He's very deliberate, very football violent and how he ran

562
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: his routes. But he was very straight lineish, like I

563
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: mean straight line, straight line, and which is great, is

564
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 3: really really good because he sold his routes really well.

565
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 3: Diggs has that little shake. I mean we saw him

566
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Speaker 3: get loose on a round and just it looked so easy,

567
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 3: and my guess is it's not. But that's not something

568
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 3: that we've been used to seeing that kind of separation. Now,

569
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Speaker 3: the Andre would get it with his speed. DeAndre never

570
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: really got separation, but he was so good. He had

571
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Speaker 3: such good glue sticks that it didn't matter. He could

572
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Speaker 3: be He liked kind of the basketball field. You know,

573
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 3: in basketball, you want to feel that guy on your

574
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: hip that he felt better that way, then he could

575
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: just snatch anything on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: You know.

577
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Speaker 3: Will Fuller's just flat out speed. I don't know that

578
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: we've had somebody like Digs that I that I can

579
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Speaker 3: remember that could get separation in the ways that he

580
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: does in the areas of the field that he does

581
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Speaker 3: just with a subtle you know, just inside outside, just

582
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Speaker 3: with his feet, hesitation.

583
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Speaker 4: The tempo.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be really fun to put all this together

585
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: and get these guys and keep them all healthy.

586
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Speaker 4: But to see.

587
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: Digs for the first time today, And there was at

588
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Speaker 3: one point I said it to the general. The very

589
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: first play that they ran, they were kind of doing

590
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Speaker 3: a kind of install, what they call group install, and

591
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: so the running backs were with the tight ends, are

592
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: with the receivers, with the quarterbacks, so that group was together.

593
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: They came out eleven personnel, one back, one tight end.

594
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: They all ran a route and so all at one

595
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: time you had Nico Tank, Digs, Schultz mixing all out

596
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: on the route and one route on one route. And

597
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: you thought, oh, that's that's it impressive.

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Speaker 1: Well look at the how about this. I'm not gonna

599
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: top it, but I'm going to tell you that the

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Speaker 1: one behind them could be yea, Damian Pearce. You're running

601
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Speaker 1: back stover the tight end, Revin, yuh you could. Well,

602
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: if you want to go to right there right you

603
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: also have Steven Sam's, John Metchi, Robert Woods, Noah Brown yep,

604
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: behind those guys, Hutchinson behind those guys behind him. We

605
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Speaker 1: haven't even behind the Brown. I don't think we've seen

606
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: Noah and OTAs. I think of the games noahad last year,

607
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: and you know he can play. Yeah, absolutely, one of

608
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Speaker 1: the top guys in the league in yards per catch.

609
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Speaker 3: We were doing we were sitting down there kind of

610
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: going through the receivers and just going through the number

611
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Speaker 3: and who's where.

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Speaker 4: Did we did we factor Noah in that? I don't

613
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Speaker 4: remember that we did.

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Speaker 1: I thought we did. I thought maybe we did some point.

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Speaker 3: You may have put him in there, but my goodness,

616
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Speaker 3: I just haven't seen him kind of.

617
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Speaker 4: I mean I've seen him in the building.

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Speaker 3: I just we haven't seen him at practice, so, you know,

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Speaker 3: rehabbing from some stuff, and he's just I mean, you

620
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Speaker 3: think of what.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say he saved games, but I

622
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: remember the Carolina game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we winna losing that game, but he's the

624
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Speaker 3: only one doing anything in that Carolina game.

625
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, the only one doing it.

626
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: And then the Saints game he comes up with big

627
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: catches that led to touchdowns. And then obviously we know

628
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Speaker 3: about the Bucks game and then the Cincinnati game. After

629
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Speaker 3: that Cincinnati huge you just had the note. It was

630
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Speaker 3: like the Noah Brown games. Yeah, you had last year,

631
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: so you know he can give you in this offense

632
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Speaker 3: what you're looking for.

633
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be like that this year, and he might

634
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Speaker 1: be the fourth or the fifth. Yeah, it's gonna be

635
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: like that with Tank Nico Stefan. How they handle that absolutely,

636
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: A couple of areas of I don't want to say concerned,

637
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: but I'm starting to panic now if they're out three

638
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: deep at a certain position group, Hey, wait a minute,

639
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: they don't have a third stringer can go to the

640
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl because we're spoiled at some other position groups.

641
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: But let's talk about it inside linebacker for a moment,

642
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: or just linebacker in general, all right? In this four

643
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: to three obviously, al Shire terrific. I mean you could

644
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: see it out there. He's a Demiko type player. We

645
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: all know what kind of player he is and will

646
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: be for this team. Christian Harris obviously. But then am

647
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Speaker 1: I wrong that we're starting to get a little thin

648
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 1: here in a hurry if they don't have everybody on

649
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: hand here because Henry toatoa nicked up or something. I

650
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Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't see him out there practicing.

651
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: Practicing, Yeah, we saw him out there not practicing.

652
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: Good, good, because you obviously need him, and where do

653
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: we go from there? Neville Hewett is back, that's nice,

654
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: but where do we go from there? In terms of

655
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: impact potential if you don't have all your bullets ready.

656
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: Tarique Barnes is another linebacker that they have available to them.

657
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips. Jacob Phillips is actually somebody people have talked about, like, hey,

658
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: that could be your Blake Cashman type player, comes up

659
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: from seemingly out of nowhere, although evaluators know that he's

660
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: got great ability.

661
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: It's brand.

662
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: Scott and I talked about this on Monday and the

663
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: Memorial Day show over on Sports Treo. Six ' ten

664
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 3: Ron and Clint were on the at Day and so

665
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: we Brandon brought this up. And it's not as if

666
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: I've ignored it or not not thought about it, but

667
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: when I really kind of took a look at it

668
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: and went, oh ooh, okay, yeah, the first thing I

669
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: brought up was this, how often do you think I'd

670
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: love to know the percentages?

671
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 4: How often do you think we were in Nickel last year?

672
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: I would think it's a lot. I would think it's

673
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: seventy seventy five percent. It wasn't the league, it's something

674
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: like sixty eight. I had those.

675
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Speaker 3: Numbers, and the reason I asked that is how how

676
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: much do you have and how often do you have

677
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: three linebackers on the field at any one time? So

678
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: there's that, but but I still think depth wise you

679
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: look at it and go on right, because the John

680
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: Phillips with the Ravens was more a more of a

681
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: special teams guy. Jacob Phillips hasn't played a ton on

682
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Speaker 3: the field, although I do think he can play. It's

683
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: but he's going to have to show us that in

684
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: in preseason and in training camp so that we get

685
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: confident that he can do it. You know, the top

686
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: two guys as he's Christian, you know that, but those

687
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: guys have also Christian in particular has had some injuries,

688
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: you know, and he had injuries in his first year,

689
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 3: got banged up a little bit last year. Not a

690
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: ton was more kind of he couldn't find his footing

691
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: at the beginning, and then finally by mid season he

692
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: started rock and rolling from there.

693
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 4: Henry showed some things when he got on the field.

694
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Speaker 3: I do think if there's a if there's a position

695
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: group where I go, you know what I would feel

696
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: a little bit more.

697
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: Comfortable, maybe with one more guy. I think it's I

698
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: think it is linebacker.

699
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Speaker 3: I I'm not totally a thousand percent set on what

700
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: the secondary should be, but the more I've watched the secondary,

701
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: the more I feel like, Okay, I think the pieces

702
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: are there. I don't think they have to go out

703
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: and get a Shack Griffin like they did last year,

704
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: unless some people were.

705
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 4: To get hurt and hopefully the fingers crossed nothing happens.

706
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: But I feel better about the secondary just watching it,

707
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: and you know what, you know what makes me feel

708
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 3: even better watching him?

709
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: J Stewart.

710
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: Eric Murray.

711
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: Eric Murray's making plays out there, just having vets back

712
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 3: there that know what they're doing and could go on

713
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 3: the field at any moment if something a guy's helmet

714
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: pops off, a guy, whatever he takes, he takes a

715
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 3: big shot and he's got to go in the tent

716
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: maybe to get you know, concussion protocol.

717
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 4: Eric Murray can go on the field.

718
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 3: And give you more than more than just a substitute's rep.

719
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: I think we missed Eric Murray last year and one

720
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: of the people want to let on, but linebackers at

721
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: one where I'm like I would feel better with one

722
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: one more guy, one more.

723
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: Guy, especially how brutal that position can be.

724
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: To think, all right, is ease and Krishn are going

725
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: to play seventeen games like, yeah, I know, don't.

726
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 4: I don't want that. So one more guy, I think

727
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 4: would make me feel a little little bit better.

728
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: Look at last year, you know, yeah, I mean absolutely everybody, everybody,

729
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: Both of those guys are gone.

730
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: All right.

731
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: ESPN's NFL Football Power Index is out. Oh and that

732
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: is absolutely critical information. Maybe not, but it's always fun

733
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: to discuss. So there's power rankings, It's power index. Okay,

734
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: all right, all right. The analytics people over there at

735
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: the Disney Sports Channel have just been grinding away at

736
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: these numbers, and this is the order that they have.

737
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: Who do you think the number one team is in

738
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Speaker 1: the league.

739
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: I think the analytics will say this, San Francisco forty correct?

740
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 4: How about that?

741
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: I haven't seen this, so yeah, I just think the

742
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: analytics will tell you that about San Francisco.

743
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: Where do you think the Texans rank in the football

744
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: Power Index?

745
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 4: I'm musa say nine.

746
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: You are absolutely right, you nailed it, nine nine nine,

747
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: all right, So ahead of the Texans. Let's see what

748
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: opponents they have. This is wild.

749
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 4: How many AFC teams and how many opponents?

750
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: All right?

751
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: How many AFC teams one, two, three, four AFC teams

752
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: are ahead of the Houston Texans or five? So when

753
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: you name the AFC teams ahead of the Houston Texans, Chiefs, Ravens,

754
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: they're number two, Ravens number three.

755
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 4: I would think the Bills are still going to be

756
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: up there.

757
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: They're number five. Wow, are getting a lot of wife

758
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: than the Football Power Index.

759
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 4: I'm going to say the Bengals.

760
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: That is correct, and that's it. You got them all, Kevin,

761
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: that's the ranking of the Bengals. Now, NFC teams. You

762
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: mentioned the forty nine ers. You have one, two, three

763
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Speaker 1: NFC teams ranked ahead of the ninth ranked Texans and

764
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: the Football Power Index. Who are the three other NFC teams?

765
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: Eagles?

766
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: That is correct, the Eagles coming at number eight.

767
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: Okay, and there's one more.

768
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: There's two more, two more Packers. That is incorrect. They

769
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: are at number ten, right behind the Houston.

770
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: Town they've typically been in power rankings. They've been in

771
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: and around the Texans. Uh nine ers. Are the Rams ahead? No,

772
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: the Rams are not ahead.

773
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 4: Your Cowboys.

774
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys are definitely ahead of the Texans number six.

775
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 5: Hmmm.

776
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: That's interesting, okay, because based on their losses. I mean,

777
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: you look at the Cowboys, they're gonna run the football.

778
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what are they.

779
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys are a mess.

780
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: Zeke can't play anymore to the level that they need him.

781
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: To play, right to the level that they need him

782
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: to play is exactly right. I think Zeke is perfect.

783
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: Like having Damien here, Zeke would be perfect behind Joe Mixon, right,

784
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: you know, that's the role for Zeke if you want.

785
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: If that's the way you're looking at it, I just

786
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys are kind of a mess. I

787
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: don't think Micah Parsons is very happy about the way

788
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 3: things are going. I don't think he liked the fact

789
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: that Dan Quinn is gone, uh took the job, the

790
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: head coaching job in Washington. I you know, Ceedee Lamb's

791
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: not happy. Obviously he'll get his he'll get his contract out.

792
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 3: Imagine then he'll be happy. But they lost Tyron Smith.

793
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: I don't know that they've replaced a lot of guys

794
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: in the offensive line. I don't feel very confident about that.

795
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: A better year with all this now, so I don't

796
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: know they're at six. There's one more NFC team. It's

797
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: on the Texans schedule.

798
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: It's awesome. Oh Lions, Giants.

799
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

800
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: Fourth. Now check this out in this ESPN NFL Power Index.

801
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: So the top ten teams, the Texans are playing one, two, three, four, five,

802
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 1: six of them.

803
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: Wow.

804
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: And they are one of the top ten. So they're

805
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: playing six of the other nine teams in the top ten. Yeah,

806
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: that's tough. That's tough. And then if you look at

807
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: eleven and twelve and thirty, so let's go eleven and

808
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: twelve Dolphins, Jets.

809
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jets, Yeah, that's coming. Wow.

810
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: So they're playing eight of the eleven that are not them.

811
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: So those six teams that were playing, yeah, in the

812
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: top ten where I always find that important. Where so

813
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 3: Chiefs away, Ravens home, Lions home, Cowboys away, But.

814
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: We're going to turn it into home field. I know

815
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: Cowboy Bill is listening. I'm going to get an email

816
00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: from him.

817
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: High Cowboy Bill. And then the Packers away. Yeah, so

818
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: it's it split three and three. Uh, Lions, Ravens.

819
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: You mentioned Cowboys, Bills.

820
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 3: Bills, Lions Cowboys or I mean Lions Lions, Ravens, Bills

821
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: are here.

822
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: And the other three are on the road. Yeah, there

823
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: it is.

824
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: So it's just.

825
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: Split three and three. So but the Jets and Dolphins

826
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 3: being right behind, so you get eight of the top

827
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: eleven that you're playing. That is one hell of a schedule.

828
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: And that's why. And I've said this, and I've heard

829
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 3: people you know, start to say it as well. Look

830
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: and you said this a million times. I remember thinking

831
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 3: about this in twenty twenty two because I did feel

832
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: like twenty twenty two was a better It was a

833
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: better team. Mean, we didn't play that well, but there

834
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: was a lot of talk like, hey, you won four

835
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: games in twenty twenty one, and I remember saying we

836
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: might win as many or fewer games than we did

837
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, but be a better team in

838
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. I think we could go ten and

839
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: seven and be a much better team. Yeah, but it's

840
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: just this schedule is that much what? It's more difficult?

841
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: All right? Now? Just for giggles here, what about the

842
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: AFC South teams? Oh yeah, so let's see. I gotta

843
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: go back to this page here to really find out

844
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: who is the next highest ranked in the NFL Power

845
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: Index AFC South South team Jags are going to be

846
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: it is, it is correct, the Jags thirteen fourteen, fifteen sixteen.

847
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 4: I got it all right.

848
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: Yes, it's funny because ESPN on their stats and things

849
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: like this on the desk top feed, they don't put

850
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: the numbers, so you always have to count count down.

851
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: So the Jags are sixteen. Where do you think the

852
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: Colts are?

853
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say nineteen twenty the Bears are.

854
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: The Bears are ahead of the Colts. They've got it

855
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: all wrong. I'm sorry the Colts.

856
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: The Cults are gonna be better. People think.

857
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: Do I have to knock everybody on the head and

858
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: just say, listen, McFly, the Colts have to be better

859
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: than twentieth in the league. They just are. I don't

860
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: care who's playing quarterback for them. Well I do, but.

861
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 4: This division is going to be a whole lot more

862
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 4: difficult than people think.

863
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, when you see his power rankings, I mean

864
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: people think about it. Last year we were circled as

865
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: the guaranteed win on everybody's schedule, and by November it

866
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: was like, I don't want to face those guys.

867
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 4: I don't want to face them.

868
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 1: I think that's why the Bears are getting some pre

869
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: love here because, oh yeah, Jyleb Williams is gon CJ.

870
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Speaker 1: Stroud type season, or at least partially a CJ. Stroud

871
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: type season. Look the weapons they've added, they won seven

872
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: games without him. They're going to be good. They're gonna

873
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: be better than you think. I can't say they're going

874
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Speaker 1: to be better than the Colts. The Colts deserve to

875
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: be ranked higher in this Football Power Index, but their

876
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: analytics crew has been working all night long for days

877
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Speaker 1: to try to come up with this. All right, coming

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Speaker 1: up next, Bobby Slowick. What did he have to say

879
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Speaker 1: about his offensive weapons to the media today. We've got

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Speaker 1: a special segment on that here on Texans Radio. Final

881
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Speaker 1: segment on tonight's program, and it's a good one because

882
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Speaker 1: we are going to talk firepower offense for the Houston

883
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: Texans took a gigantic leap forward last year, of course,

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Speaker 1: with CJ. Stroud and company and the conductor offensive coordinator

885
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: Bobby Slowick. Well, he's been out there at Ota, is

886
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Speaker 1: doing his thing, and he met with the media today.

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Speaker 1: Among other things, he was asked about having the bulk

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Speaker 1: of his attack back for year two under his tutelage.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's more. I think it's really across the whole NFL.

890
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Speaker 6: When you get to year two, you eliminate a lot

891
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 6: of the steps to get to where you want to

892
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 6: end up. So the verbiage is more familiar to the guys,

893
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 6: where year one a lot of the strain early on

894
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 6: is verbage. And I mean we're still going through that

895
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Speaker 6: with the new players right now, just learning our terms

896
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 6: that other people use but they call something different and

897
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 6: hammering it in and how we say it and what

898
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Speaker 6: we teach in that regard. But it definitely expedites the

899
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Speaker 6: process being in year two without a doubt.

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Speaker 1: What about the offensive coordinator having a wide receiver room

901
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: with at least three players who could put up one

902
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: thousand yards each.

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Speaker 6: It's really the same as last year's. That's what's fun

904
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Speaker 6: is last year I would say all the time, you know,

905
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Speaker 6: we got we got a group of guys in the

906
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 6: receiver room, in the tight end room, in the running

907
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 6: back room that we feel like have have good skill

908
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 6: sets and they're all elite at something, and our job

909
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 6: is to take advantage of what their elite at. You know,

910
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 6: how do we make sure that what fits them gets

911
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 6: shown to the world and showcased, and you know, we

912
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 6: get a chance to use that in the past game

913
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Speaker 6: and in the run game. And I mean we got

914
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Speaker 6: a quarterback that as really gives us no limitations in

915
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Speaker 6: that regard. We can do all kinds of stuff to

916
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Speaker 6: make sure that, you know, whatever we're calling and however

917
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Speaker 6: we use guys, we're making sure that they're doing their strengths.

918
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Speaker 5: That's really what it all comes down to.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's clear the Texans have certainly beefed up the

920
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: offense with all the acquisitions. How much communication and what

921
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: kind of communication does offensive coordinator Bobby Slowick have with

922
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Speaker 1: Nick Kssei own Demiko Ryan's regarding player acquisitions.

923
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's part of what makes it Houston great.

924
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Speaker 6: You know, it's the way Demiko and Nick worked, and

925
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 6: really the whole organization is very collaborative.

926
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Speaker 5: They're always they're always asking what are your thoughts, what

927
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 5: do you think of this? How do you feel about this?

928
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Speaker 6: And we have we have straightforward conversations and a lot

929
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Speaker 6: of times, similar to CJ, the conversations aren't wrong because

930
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 6: we say the same thing. But there's there's really nothing

931
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Speaker 6: that goes on you know that all of us aren't

932
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 6: aren't in agreement on and really going full steam ahead

933
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Speaker 6: in every regard. They're very, very open and honest on

934
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Speaker 6: all fronts.

935
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Speaker 1: Let's get into some of those acquisitions, particularly Joe Mixon

936
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Speaker 1: and Stefan Diggs.

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Speaker 6: Y's actually, I know it seems like it'd probably be hard,

938
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Speaker 6: but it's actually pretty easy because a lot of it's

939
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Speaker 6: dictated on what they do and what's the best way

940
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Speaker 6: for us to attack that. And if it's a heavy

941
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 6: twenty one to twelve game, all our receivers are still

942
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 6: out there working. You still go eleven and third down,

943
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 6: you still go eleven in the red zone a good amount.

944
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Speaker 6: And we really believe in keeping all our guys fresh,

945
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 6: you know, so that when they step on the field,

946
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 6: they got one hundred percent every play. And if it's

947
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Speaker 6: a heavy eleven personnel game, then we're we have a

948
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Speaker 6: lot of guys that can go fill that role. It

949
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Speaker 6: could be a ten personnel game. It really winds up

950
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Speaker 6: sorting itself out through the course of the season. That's what,

951
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Speaker 6: like I mentioned, that's what's fun for us, is all

952
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 6: of us are all in on just whatever we got

953
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Speaker 6: to do to win this game.

954
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Speaker 5: This week, we're equipped to do that.

955
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Speaker 1: And by the way, eleven personnel means one running back,

956
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: one tight end, indicating three receivers set to go in

957
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: the pattern, and do all the math. Add up the

958
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: numbers and you have what you have, all right, more

959
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Speaker 1: from Bobby slow kre what about keeping everybody happy on offense?

960
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: Only so many footballs to go around.

961
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it really is all the same.

962
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Speaker 6: You know, our job at the end of the day

963
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 6: has put every player in the best position possible for

964
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Speaker 6: them to succeed. And that's endlessly our goal as coaches

965
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Speaker 6: when we look at it, and that goes from you know,

966
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Speaker 6: from teaching, the teaching aspect, as far as fundamentals, technique,

967
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 6: the individual aspects of it, all the way up to

968
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Speaker 6: the top level view of scheme.

969
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Speaker 5: It's just how do we make.

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Speaker 6: Sure that guys are in the best position they could

971
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Speaker 6: be to do what they do best. And we got

972
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Speaker 6: a lot of guys that do a lot of things well,

973
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Speaker 6: so that I mean, really, how we marry that up

974
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Speaker 6: and tie it all together is again a week to

975
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Speaker 6: week thing, but it's no different than what we did

976
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Speaker 6: last year.

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Speaker 1: What is different for Bobby Slowik in his second year

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Speaker 1: as an offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: I would say that the number one thing that stands

980
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Speaker 5: out to me is relationships.

981
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Speaker 6: Relationships with Demiko as head coach, Tomiko, not friend and

982
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Speaker 6: coworker Demiko, I would say, relationships with the rest of

983
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Speaker 6: the coaching staff, and in particular, relationships with the players.

984
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Speaker 5: Everybody knowing each other.

985
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Speaker 6: You know, we were always even last year, we're very

986
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Speaker 6: open and honest at all times and meetings.

987
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Speaker 5: But I mean that now is even more evident. You know,

988
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 5: we already all have relationships. We care about each other

989
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 5: a great deal.

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Speaker 6: Whether the guys that were here last year are no

991
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 6: longer with us, I mean we still a root for him,

992
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 6: We still cheer for him.

993
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 5: This was so cool about this sport.

994
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 6: The bonds you make with the people that are in

995
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 6: the building is something that I don't know if you

996
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 6: could get really in other places, which is the amount

997
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 6: of unique individuals.

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Speaker 1: Say you, kid, there's some stuff from offensive coordinator Bobby Slowick.

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Speaker 1: What a beautiful thing it is that he did not

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Speaker 1: get a head coaching job and he's still here now.

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Speaker 1: Not that I don't want him to be successful in

1002
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Speaker 1: that way, because as Demiko Ryan's pointed out, if you're

1003
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Speaker 1: going to have success. They're going to come after your coaches.

1004
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Speaker 1: That means you're good. But let's kick that can down

1005
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Speaker 1: the road, Bobby slowick and load up for a great

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Cannot wait, all right, tomorrow got a

1007
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: fun show for you. Among other things, tight Ends coach

1008
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Speaker 1: Jake Morland joins us in studio, so stay tuned for that,

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Speaker 1: and stay tuned for Area forty five coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Don't miss the guys. Sean and Patrick have a great evening.

1011
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Speaker 1: Go Texan.