1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal all that for me. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: for day Edith State? 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Is that? Whoo whoom? And Dan and tie Dan Rubinstein, 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show, my friend. We have much 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: to discuss in the college football world, do we not, sir? 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Welcome home? How are you? 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me? I'm good. We do have 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: a lot to discuss, right We've got portal and coaching 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: and uh A National championship and just larger college football 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: issues in general to talk about, and we're doing so 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: via Q and A and some of our own just 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: like news thoughts. 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Yes, that is correct. So we've got kind of two 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: parts of this episode. Obviously, we've got a bunch of 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: transfer portal news, some of which broke earlier today, some 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: other tidbits here and there that we just not have 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: have had a chance to talk about, So we'll get 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: to that. And then yeah, to close this thing out, 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: it were kind of overdue for QNA and I put 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: out the call out at verballers dot com see if 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: people had any questions. We had a bunch of Kurt 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: Signetti stuff. We had some nil stuff. We had a 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: whole multitude. We had questions about your pee wee basketball 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: coaching debut. 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, my first graders, Yeah. 28 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: Which I believe was on Sunday, correct. 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: Yep, that was yesterday. As we record this, can I 30 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: ask you something always at that it's it's we're gonna 31 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: tie it all in. I promise we'll we will weave 32 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: it into this content tapestry seamlessly. Have you ever been dumped? 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: I have to be clear. Have you ever been dumped? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 34 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: like a romantic entanglement kind of kind of okay. You 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: Have you ever felt what you would consider to be 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: on some level heartache? Yes, okay, of course, Like I 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: think most of us, if not all of us have, 38 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: Have you ever experienced heartache where every time you go 39 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: on and read writers and social media people and media 40 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: just anybody covering the news and have a story repeatedly 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 2: say like she is doing so great, she is doing 42 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: wonderfully and the job she did in dumping tie That's 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: been my weekend reading about Kurt Signetti. That has been 44 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: It's just like NonStop. And then like people will come 45 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: up to me like it's gonna be okay. You're like, 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be okay. It was not a 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: good game for orgon Friday. And then you go and 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 2: you read like The Athletic or Yahoo or ESPN or 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated or wherever you get your college football conversations 50 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: and news, and people are like this Indiana thing. Man, Wow, 51 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: what a move they just made Friday night. It's like 52 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: everywhere they. 53 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: Can't get away from it. Man, can't get away from it. 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's I can't get away from it because the 55 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: weekend is like seeing people around town, seeing friends and 56 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: parents of kids and stuff, and they're just like, hey, man, 57 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: sorry about Friday. Just like, yeah, it's okay. I fell 58 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: asleep Friday night, I fell asleep Saturday night. Everything okay. 59 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: And they're like yeah, yeah, but like that Indiana story 60 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: is something else, right. I was like, yep, no, it 61 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: sure is. It sure is. 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of Oregon, we've got some Moregan news that 63 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to here momentarily. But before we get there, 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: please help support the team by hitting follow or subscribe. 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: If you listen out on audio pretty much anywhere you 66 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: get your podcasts, you can find Dan and I just 67 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: look for the solid verbal if you are out on YouTube, 68 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: if you do prefer the pristine video version of our 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: smiling faces. I should add help support the team. We 70 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: are inching ever so close to that thirty thousand subscriber mark. 71 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: It's not gonna take much to get it there. We 72 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: just need a stiff gust of wind. I think that'll 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: get us over the finish line. I would love to 74 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: get there before the season ends. So do your part, verballerhood, 75 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: help us out, help us get the thirty k. We 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: would greatly appreciate it. Yeah, why don't we dive in? 77 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: We havecking news. 78 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: I cannot believe you saved that energy for this continue. 79 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes, my good friend, the college football gods smile upon us, Okay, 80 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: specifically smile upon me. You know, after a couple of 81 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: years now of sparring a little bit with you over 82 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: Dylan Roolah. News broke earlier today, Dan Rubinstein, that your 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: alma mater, our Oregon Ducks have secured the services of 84 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: one Dylan Riola Royola entered the transfer portal. It was 85 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: clearly a very big news story in our little universe here. 86 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: Dylan Royola has been a name that we've been talking 87 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: about for years. Yeah, Raola goes into the transfer portal. 88 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: It was relatively quiet, I would say, for the last 89 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Lo and behold. Despite some earlier rumors 90 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: that didn't seem as if they were gonna click between 91 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: Ryola and Oregon, he is ending up there at long last, sir, Now, 92 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: I will not drone on any longer. I say the 93 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: gods have smiled upon me though, because I know that 94 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: you're not always a huge fan of Dylan Rowland what 95 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: you've seen from him thus far in his two year 96 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: stay with the Nebraska Cornhusker. So what say you? Now? 97 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see how it works out, what's next? 98 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: No, I love it, Okay, love that I get this. 99 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, I know, thank you college football. I love 100 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: that I get this. 101 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: So no, I was not a huge fan of watching 102 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: him at Nebraska, and it was a I guess an 103 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: impressive start on some level. Nebraska fans were very high 104 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: on his potential this season. It quickly went not sideways. 105 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: There were a lot that was going sideways about Nebraska 106 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: this year. Obviously. I think what he broke is fibula. 107 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: That was the injury he suffered against I want to 108 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: say USC sort of two thirds of the way into 109 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: the year. The calculus from Organ's perspective, and as we're 110 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: recording this, we don't know Dante Moore's intentions with regard 111 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: to his NFL future, whether he's coming back or not. 112 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: So the word, the reported word is that Dante MOR's 113 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: decision has little bearing on Dylan Riola in that if 114 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: Dante mor is gone, obviously Dylan Roola would be in 115 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 2: position to compete for the starting job at Oregon next year, 116 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 2: which is a more stable offensive place than Nebraska, given 117 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: offensive line roster, given receivers available to throw, to the 118 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: running game, offensive coaches, track record of developing quarterbacks in 119 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: Eugene under this coach, so you understand it from his 120 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: perspective and from Organ's perspective. Certainly, the raw talents, you know, 121 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: the arm ability, the physical ability is there, right, is 122 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: just a sort of potential play right now that they 123 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: were able to be that like program for wandering five 124 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: star quarterbacks who couldn't fully figure it out at a 125 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: place in which they had a lot of pressure. 126 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: The Island on five star toys. 127 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like the Legacy guy right, the bone Nicks 128 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: at Auburn and the Ryola name at Nebraska, you know, 129 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: carries weight and so Oregon is a stable place by 130 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: and large compared to the rest of this sport. And 131 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: they say, okay, we'll bring our stability. We'll bring you know, 132 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: we'll have a great defense. We'll have we're returning all 133 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: these players now on defense, their whole defensive line is 134 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: coming back. We'll see who else is back on both 135 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: sides of the ball. That this is a place that 136 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: we can maximize abilities. And so that's their thinking, and 137 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: that he's willing to sit for a year, and the 138 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: way that Dante mor sat for a year behind Dylan 139 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: Gabriel after he transferred from UCLA and sort of regroup, 140 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: re have, and you know, restart his career. You know, 141 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 2: he has a reputation of being somewhat difficult, fair or not. 142 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: You know, he was at a bunch of different high schools. 143 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: He committed to, I think both Ohio State and Georgia 144 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: before committing to Nebraska ultimately. And so I suppose the 145 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: optimist view of Dylan Ryola's time in college football so 146 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: far and as a big time high school recruit is 147 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 2: that he was immature and finding his way and needed 148 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: better guidance in leadership, and perhaps that guidance leadership exists 149 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: at Oregon. I think Dan Lanning is something like forty 150 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: eight and eight in his time as a head coach 151 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: in Eugene, and so it seems to be a more 152 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 2: plug in play place for talents. I didn't love him 153 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: in Nebraska. I don't love starting true freshmen. I love 154 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: when guys at least get a year. Very few of 155 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: these guys are ready to come in, especially given lofty 156 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: expectations that generally true freshmen who are starting come with. 157 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: There were throws he made that were incredible, but by 158 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: and large I thought he was slow processing. I thought 159 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: he tried to will too many things to happen instead 160 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: of letting the game come to him. And I just 161 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: I didn't think he was of upper half of the 162 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: Big Ten caliber at Nebraska when all was said and done, 163 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: when you look at the totality of his time there. 164 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: And so I'm hoping for the best for Oregon first 165 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: and foremost. If that happens to be with a successful 166 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 2: dil Roola, so be it. But I don't know. I 167 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: guess part of this is also like dil Roola looking 168 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: at the market for like what is the most major 169 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: place that I could come in and start immediately, and 170 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: the market was like, well, we're not really sure. You know, 171 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: there was a lot of like Louisville conversations, which you know, 172 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: that's a tick or two below where Oregon has been recently. 173 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: And I think he's looking at this as his sort 174 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: of last chance to shine on a major level and 175 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: you know, rehabilitate his name and image and likeness for 176 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: potential NFL consideration in a couple of years. 177 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, we're recording this a Monday afternoon, 178 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: and as you mentioned, we still don't know what Dante 179 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: More is gonna do. I think people out there have 180 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: had a false assumption that and I guess we'll find 181 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: out for sure if it's false or not. But there's 182 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: been this false assumption that because Ryola has committed now 183 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: to Oregon, therefore it must mean Dante More is going 184 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: pro you know, mostly you, but between the two of us, 185 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: I think we've heard a lot of the contrary that 186 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: Dante might actually be inclined to stay. Now. We don't 187 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: know that this could age very poorly, but I just 188 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: wanted to put that on record. If I'm an Oregon fan, 189 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: I want Dante more to stay. I would much prefer 190 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: Dante Moore be my starter next season with a talent 191 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: that is on hand, then bringing in afresh Dilonariola comes 192 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: from a different place who has some real questions about 193 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: his game right Dilanoil has been very accurate throwing short passes, 194 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: but some of the longer balls mechanics have broken down. 195 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, processing on some of those longer passes 196 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: has not always been great. I think there is a 197 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: lot of cleanup here that needs to go on. If 198 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: Royola is to truly rehabilitate the image and get to 199 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: anywhere close to that five star potential. He's just not 200 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: there yet now, I get it from the Oregon perspective. 201 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: From the Oregon perspective, this is a gamble on potential, 202 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: not so much on production. To that end, I guess 203 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: kind of the opposite of what Signetti is doing at Indiana, 204 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, it is not a bad place to be 205 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: to have a very capable backup quarterback. There are many 206 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: programs around college football that have an issue with that. 207 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: So whether or not he's the backup or the starter, 208 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: this is clearly a developmental play on the Oregon side, 209 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: and for sure on the Roola side, I kind of 210 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: don't get this on the Royal end of things, though, 211 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: If in fact this is a move that ends up 212 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: being you're gonna wait your turn, You're gonna learn behind 213 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: Dante more Lingyah, gonna you're gonna learn this offense, and 214 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: then you're gonna get the keys to it in twenty 215 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: twenty seven. I I don't think I really understand that logic. 216 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: I understand needing to get better. I understand clearly needing 217 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: to do a little bit more to get to that 218 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: five star potential and make yourself a future NFL prospect. 219 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: But my hunch is that there are plenty of places 220 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: where Royola could have gone and played right away, even 221 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: if it wasn't quite at the level of Oregon. I 222 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: don't think Liuvill would have would have been a bad stop. 223 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: There are plenty of other programs around college football that 224 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: have a pretty good track record for developing talent. So 225 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: I am very much mixed on this move from his perspective. 226 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: On the Oregon side, it's like it's just money and 227 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: they have a luxury of having a lot of it. 228 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: That's how they've been able to amass the talent that 229 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: they've got on hand. 230 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: I don't think they're paying a lot for him, by 231 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: the way, No, oh no, I don't. I don't think 232 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: they're paying a premium price for him. I think he 233 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: looked at the market, looked at what his end goal was, 234 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 2: which is getting drafted in the first round of the 235 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: NFL craft. I'm not saying that's a realistic thing, but 236 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: I'm saying that's likely his goal sure is getting drafted 237 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: in the first round of the NFL draft, and that 238 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: you know, Boonix is. I have no idea how good 239 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 2: he is or not good, but I think he's a 240 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: quarterback on a really good NFL the number one seed 241 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: in THEFC, right, so even if he is a below 242 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 2: average NFL quarterback, he got drafted in the first round 243 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: and is the number one seed in the AFC playoffs 244 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: and the you know, justin Herbert to like, take your pick. 245 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: I think there were like four or five six Oregon 246 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: quarterbacks who started a game this year in the NFL, 247 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: and a couple of them were drafted in the first round. 248 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: Mariota obviously. So I'm a big believer in sometimes places 249 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: are meaningful that like you thrive in certain places, certain 250 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: places have the stability to thrive in through different coaches 251 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: as well, And so from his perspective, I don't think 252 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: he's making a ton of money. I think he's probably 253 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: you know, taking less money to look at more upside 254 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: long term and if it doesn't work out from Oregon side, 255 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: you know, if he's starting next season, if Dante mor 256 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: goes pro, they're not paying him a ton. If he 257 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: is a backup and shows in practice that he's not 258 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: capable of being a top three Big ten quarterback, top 259 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: five Big ten quarterback, they'll go in a different direction. No, Like, 260 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: I actually do think it's minimal risk on Oregon's part. 261 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: And you know, maybe they Oregon fully whiffed on every 262 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: quarterback they really truly wanted in the portal, But somehow 263 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: that does not strike me as the world we live in. 264 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: Given what Organ's been able to do previously. 265 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: If they've been able to convince Royola to come there 266 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: potentially as a backup, and if he knows that going in, YEP, 267 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: I tend to agree on the Oregon side, there's a 268 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: lot of upside here and there's not a lot of risk. 269 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: You have a capable backup at worst if Dante's stays 270 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: and if not, you still got a two year starter 271 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: that's going to take over the rains at quarterback. So 272 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, I think it works. I just Delan 273 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: Roola has fallen victim to the five star thing, to 274 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: the label, and he has not lived up to that. 275 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: If Oregon can help him get there, then that will 276 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: be a huge win for both of the parties here. 277 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: But I just for as much as I think I 278 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: watch Dilan Aiola's game and I can see the potential, 279 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: I also am very mixed on this, very mixed on 280 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: this from his standpoint, because I just think he needs reps. 281 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: I think he needs more reps. I think he needs 282 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: more reps with a better supporting cast, for sure. I 283 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: mean that's part of the calculation, sure for going to Oregon. 284 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: But if there's potential to have to sit and wait 285 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: a year, I don't like that. 286 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: But by the way, speaking of clean break, he's coming 287 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: off of a serious injury and his market yesterday wasn't 288 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: what it was when he was a high school senior, right. 289 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: I don't think people were just like getting in line 290 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: to throw five million dollars at Delan Royola. I don't 291 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: you know, he spent time in Arizona, and ASU was 292 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: not making a run at him. There's a lot of 293 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: big places that you know have quarterback needs. You know, 294 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: Lsu was not making a run at him, and so 295 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: Olemes was not making a run at him. Pending Trinidad 296 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: Chambliss and so Miami, I have no I mean, his 297 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: name came up with Miami just because they've been that 298 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: team that has gone after a high level. 299 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: We'll get to that. We'll talk about that in a 300 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: little bit. 301 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: But it didn't seem like there was actual realistic smoke 302 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: with Miami. And maybe I'm wrong and maybe it just 303 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: never came out, but that's telling to me. And we'll see. 304 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: We will see what the thing that I do. 305 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: Like for Riola going to Oregon though, is Oregon. I 306 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: think over the last couple of years, though some of 307 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: the coordinators have come in and kind of put their 308 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: own little spin on the offense. The offense is kind 309 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: of the offense. They have a pretty good identity for 310 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: what they want to do, and so he is stepping 311 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: into stability in terms of what they're trying to run 312 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: the offensive side the ball. He didn't really have that 313 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: at Nebraska. The other thing. And it goes without saying 314 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: going to go to a place like Oregon, but clearly 315 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: a better supporting cast. It's gonna be a better supporting cast. 316 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: If nothing more, he'll have a better line than he 317 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: had in his time at Nebraska, and I you know, 318 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: all quarterbacks tend to benefit from that. So he's not 319 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: going to a place where he's going to be surrounded 320 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: by a bunch of adults. Clearly Oregon has assembled a 321 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: ton of talent across the board. It's an embarrassment of riches, 322 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: especially now if you have two quarterbacks in the room, 323 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: two former five star quarterbacks in the room. If that 324 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: ends up being the case, so Oregon's in a good spot. 325 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: I tend to agree very low risk for them. It 326 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: really is just money on some level. And you'll see 327 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: if you can get the most out of Oroala on 328 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: the Royola side, whether he's treating this Oregon situation as 329 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: a year to sit and learn and prove himself, or 330 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: if he's hoping to get the keys right away if 331 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: Dante leaves. That remains to be seen at time of recording, 332 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: but clearly one of those stories that we're going to 333 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: need to pay attention to. Now as we go through springball, 334 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: as we get closer to the NFL Draft, as we 335 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: get closer to the twenty sixth season. 336 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: And we've seen it, by the way to sort of, 337 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: you know, spread it a little bit wider. We've seen 338 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: it in this sport where you look at a quarterback 339 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: one place and you're like, I think he's pretty good, 340 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: and then goes to a place that is a more established, 341 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: you know, a better incubator of talent, surrounds a player 342 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 2: with more talent and better coaching, and you know, just 343 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: more general comfort, which is, you know what every quarterback needs. 344 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: Look at Michael Pennix from Indiana to Washington. Look at 345 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: Bo Nicks, right. Look at Fernando Mendoza, right, he was 346 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: a pretty good acc quarterback. Cal had pretty good receivers, 347 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 2: pretty good running backs. They had a good year with 348 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 2: Jake Spavital a couple of years ago. You couldn't look 349 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: at Fernando Mendoza and say he wasn't good at Cal. 350 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: He's a pretty good quarterback. Should have beat Miami a 351 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Some weird calls at the end there, 352 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: but then he goes to a place that is better 353 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: for him. Surrounds him with more is a more stable 354 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: place can go in and feel more comfortable in an offense, 355 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: and you thrive. And so we've seen it all around 356 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 2: this sport. It doesn't always work out, but there are 357 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: plenty of examples of a guy going to a place 358 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: that is better suited to develop a quarterback and it 359 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: just works. And so there's that potential there. 360 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: We'll see elsewhere in the transfer portal. Dan is sam 361 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: Levitt the answer for Lane Kiff in an. 362 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: LSU Maybe Sam Levit's a good uarterback. Sam Levitt's coming 363 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: off of a serious injury. He has a List Frank 364 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: situation right, so I don't know if he's even gonna 365 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: play in spring ball. But the best of sam Levitt 366 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: seems to be aligned with Lane Kiffin. Say whatever you 367 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: want about Lane Kiffin, it's likely true, but also Lane Kiffin, 368 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: he gets a lot of production and great play from 369 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: his quarterbacks. And so Sam Levitt, as somebody who's athletic, 370 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: has played in the playoffs, has played for a good 371 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: quarterback developer in Kenny Dillingham has a ton of talent. 372 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how he bounces back from the injury. 373 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: Curious to see how he's surrounded talent wise, I think 374 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: lsu I mean, I don't think I know Elis. He 375 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: needs to get a lot better along the offensive line. 376 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: Receiver has really truly never been a huge problem, though 377 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: there have been some drop off years or two at 378 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: receiver in terms of production. We'll see what they look 379 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: like on the roster there. We will see what they 380 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: look like in terms of offensive architecture under Lane Kiffin. 381 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 2: My assumption is it'll be very successful given his track record, 382 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 2: but the ceiling is very high. The thing that's concerning 383 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: to me beyond the injury, was like, he's leaving a 384 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 2: team that he took to the playoff and there were 385 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: rumors about it like mid season when he got hurt. Yeah, 386 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: and publicly Kenny Dillingham was like, yeah, well, just we 387 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: wish him the best. Didn't wasn't there for like senior 388 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: night or whatever the year end banquet, And it just 389 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: seemed from the outside his previous team was like, yeah, 390 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with that guy, but we're moving 391 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: forward in a new direction. Like didn't seem like there 392 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: was a lot of love loss, but you know, maybe 393 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 2: that's just me reading things. 394 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: Incorrectly. Yeah. I mean the vibe to me was Sam 395 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: Levitt wants to get paid, and that's part of why 396 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: he took a million visits. I mean we joked about 397 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: Jed Fish being on tour. Sam Levitt had his own 398 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: little winter tour going on here as he went to 399 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: a multitude of places to visit and look to his credit, 400 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: he's very much in demand. I understand why people are 401 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: interested in Sam Levitt. He's a talented guy. And who 402 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: are we to say, don't take the visit to Kentucky 403 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: or don't take the visit to Miami and me go 404 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: wherever you want. This to me, seems like it makes 405 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: a lot of sense for LSU. They needed a guy, 406 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: They got their guy. Sam Levitt is immensely talent. He's 407 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback. I think to your point, Kiffin's going 408 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: to get a lot out of them. 409 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: I texted somebody, by the way, I texted somebody Capitol 410 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: w who would know, and was like, Sam Levit and 411 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: Landkiffin are perfect for each other in every conceivable football 412 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: and life way. 413 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: Okay, which take how you would like, Okay. I think 414 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense in terms of the 415 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: skill set that he brings. I do have questions though 416 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: about what the overall raw your picture is going to 417 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: look like at LSU, you know, and the injury thing. 418 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: The injury thing shouldn't go without mentioning again, he missed 419 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: some time and there is question about when he's going 420 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: to be back out there at one hundred percent. Yeah, 421 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: so this is a big name. LSU obviously went big 422 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: game hunting to try and get a guy. They've been 423 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: looking for a while to find who that quarterback was 424 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: going to be. Sam Levitt now is going to be 425 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: your quarterback at LSU. Now with that being said, DJ 426 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: Lagway quote unquote committed to Baylor, though I don't think 427 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: he has signed, and he is still taking visits. So 428 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: not fully committed, not fully committed, but just commit. Yeah, 429 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: half print deuced. Knight, the very talented transfer from Auburn 430 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: is taking his talents to Old Miss. You may recall, 431 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: I think we mentioned it in passing that Austin Simmons, 432 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: previously at Old Miss, signed with Miszoo. So we got 433 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of quarterback musical chairs going on in 434 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: the SEC and in the South. 435 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: But also Trinidad. Chambliss and his attorneys are fighting in 436 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: the courts or are about to start fighting in the 437 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: courts for eligibility in twenty twenty, so that's correct. 438 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: His initial waiver was denied, Yeah, was denied, but he 439 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: is going to file suit and see if he's able 440 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: to stick around. Honestly, go pro. Somebody would take a 441 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: chance on Trinidad Chambliss the way he closed out his season. 442 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: But I'm not a scout. I just play one on TV. 443 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: Honestly, go back to Ole Miss and Barry Lane Kiffin 444 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: when you play against LSU or that or that. 445 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: This of course has an open question now attached to it, 446 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: which is what is Miami going to do? Miami Hurricane 447 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: is about to play in the colleg football Playoff National 448 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: Championship Game. Cars and back cannot come back for an 449 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: eighth year. Who's gonna play their quarterback next season? There 450 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: have been plenty of names that I think have been 451 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: attached to that opening. Some have been Sam Leven, others 452 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: have been Dylan Royal. What about ty Simpson? Tye Simpson's 453 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: an interesting name out there. Ty Simpson declared from Alabama 454 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: for the NFL Draft, but that hasn't stopped Miami in 455 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: each of the previous two seasons. We saw it most 456 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: recently with Carson Beck declared then came back going to 457 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: Miami getting paid. We saw it the year prior with 458 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: cam Ward declaring but then ultimately transferring to Miami as well. 459 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: A lot of big like engaged, isn't married energy for 460 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 2: Miami game? 461 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot going on there, and some of the 462 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: numbers that have been thrown out have been making their 463 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: way across social media are preposterous that perhaps somebody like 464 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: ty Simpson could command six and a half million dollars 465 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: to stay in school. Good work if you can get it, man, 466 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: good work, if you can get it. So right now, 467 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: if I am a betting man and I am, my 468 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: guess would be that they're going to try to lower 469 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: Tye Simpson out of the NFL, bring him down to 470 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: Coral Gables. But it remains to be seeing which direction 471 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: the Canes are going to go next our quarterback. Yeah. 472 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: We also don't again have a clear picture of which 473 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: quarterbacks have declared for the NFL Draft, which I think 474 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: would affect Ti Simpson's decision making obviously. And the other 475 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: reminder is that a school like Miami, who has had 476 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: the kind of success it has had with Carson Beck 477 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 2: and prior to that, cam Ward can go to a 478 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: lot of quarterbacks representatives in the next four days or so, 479 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: or I guess there's an extended period, I don't know, 480 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: next few days for non national championship playing quarterbacks four 481 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: days or so and say we're interested, if he's interested, 482 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: and they can just pop into the portal with a 483 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 2: do not contact tag and end up at Miami. So 484 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: I am not reporting on anything. There are a number 485 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: of returning quarterbacks who would very clearly see what's happening 486 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: in Miami as a more attractive destination than the school 487 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: at which they're currently playing. 488 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: In other portal news, both Cam Coleman and Hollywood Smothers 489 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: are going to Texas. Yes, Texas lost a couple guys, 490 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: but they bring in the top receiver in the portal 491 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: and Cam Coleman, who comes over from Auburn. Hywood's Smothers 492 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: is a bit of a home run hitter at running back. 493 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: They had an opening there. Hiwood's Moothers coming over from 494 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: NC State to Texas. 495 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: Technically coming over from Alabama. Your favorite moments from the 496 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: Hollywood Smothers Alabama era are but mine was looking at 497 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: the tweet and saying huh, all right, Hollywood smothers Alabama. Okay, 498 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: that was I guess that was the highlight. 499 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: Trey Wisner is going to FSU, which is why they 500 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: had that opening to begin with. So they get two Biggins. 501 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: And by the way, CJ. Baxter to Kentucky. I want 502 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: to say as well, yeah from the Texas. 503 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: In a lot of movement out of Texas. But they're 504 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: clearly doing their part two backfill. I will also add 505 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: at this point in time that Notre Dame had been 506 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: stone quiet on the transfer portal side. Yeah, made a 507 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: run at Nick Marsh that did not work out. He 508 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: ended up at Indiana Instead. They are going with Quincy Porter, 509 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: the former five star who was recently on the roster 510 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: at Ohio State. He has three years left I believe 511 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: of eligibility, if nothing more. Two catches in his time 512 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: at Ohio State last season, so they are clearly looking 513 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: at this in terms of potential. He's a big kid 514 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: six four two ten. I think projects as a vertical threat, 515 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: somebody that hopefully can blow the top off the defense. Also, 516 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: he's a bigger guy again, six' four seems like the 517 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 1: type of dude who can go up and win some 518 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: of those contested fifty to fifty, balls which would be 519 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: nice in The Notre dame. Offense Notre dame also adds 520 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: Key On, keeley who is back now The, irish originally 521 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: committed to The irish as a five star a couple 522 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: of years, back was At, alabama is now going back 523 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: up To South, bend projected as one of the top 524 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: edge rushers in this. Class AND i also saw THAT dj, 525 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: McKinney the cornerback From, colorado most recently Of, colorado has 526 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: announced his intentions to go and play At Notre. Dame 527 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: So Notre dame being, picky they've already got a pretty 528 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: good roster. Assembled, Personally i'd like for them to do 529 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: something on the interior defensive. LINE i think that's where 530 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: they need to help next. Season, okay but right now 531 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: a time of, recording this is where we're. AT a 532 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: couple guys taking their talents To South. 533 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: Bend, yeah and, look we're gonna have these when you 534 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: look at you, know schools Like Notre, dames schools Like 535 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: texas you just. Mentioned by the, way we're Leek brown 536 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: also in that Back Bayley brown yep ye with H, 537 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: NOW i Guess Hollywood's moothers And Cam coleman out, wide 538 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: and they lose Like texas is going to lose huge 539 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: names from their recruiting time who didn't necessarily produce right, 540 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: away BECAUSE i think a lot of AND i use 541 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: this word a lot and a lot of the, calculus 542 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: a lot of the, budgeting whatever you want to. Say 543 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: and this is true Of, oregon WHO'S i think down 544 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: about twenty. Players we've seen these kinds of is it 545 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: exidi exids IS i don't, KNOW i can barely read, 546 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: Ty but places Like, georgia places Like, bama, right they're 547 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: not going to pay top dollar for guys who sit 548 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: on the bench for two years if you're not contributing, 549 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: quickly and these guys want to start and start the 550 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: clock on THEIR nfl draft. Profiles you know you're going 551 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: to see the like it's best for everybody here to move. 552 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: On AND i just think you're going to see more 553 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: and more of. That And i'm Sure Notre dame's paying 554 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: its current roster a very healthy market, deal and you 555 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: know they're not going to Pay they're not going to 556 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: like dip into the portal and take twenty five kids every. 557 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: Year it's just too expensive a proposition to recruit over. 558 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: Guys you're paying a lot of. Money SO i don't. 559 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: KNOW i think it's good for these places to be. 560 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: CHOOSY i think it's good for guys who come in 561 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: and realize that they're still on the third string two 562 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: three years in to go find a better. Opportunity BUT 563 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: i think that's JUST i think that's why we're seeing 564 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: so much movement from a lot of these big. Places 565 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: and Obviously texas had some question marks about how much 566 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: pop they were getting from running back and receiver last, 567 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: year and you, know moving forward and Camp, COLEMAN i 568 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: DON'T i don't think it was. CHEAP i don't think 569 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: there was a bargain at getting Cam coleman in some 570 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: of the schools he was visiting and speaking with And 571 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: hopie pops with Arch manning AND i forget Whatever Raja 572 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: bell's kid's name, is who's coming in at quarterback? Now, Diabell, Diabell. 573 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: Diabell but you, know it's it'll be cool to See 574 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: Cam coleman in an offense that will do everything they 575 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: possibly can to get him the, ball Like auburn did 576 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: at its. Best they just didn't have the quarterback play. 577 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: Consistently we'll see If arch is more consistent with a 578 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: top tier receiver at his. BEST i don't. KNOW i 579 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: think it could be quite. FUN i don't know what 580 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: else is jumping out to. You portal, WISE usc has 581 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: been pretty. Active Penn state is obviously bringing in a 582 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: Decent big twelve team to man its. ROSTER i don't. 583 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: Know Virginia tech is continually being. Active we got questioned 584 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: Dock meyer and we're going to. 585 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: Start, yeah that actually okay when we shift gears, here 586 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: look a lot more to come on the transfer portal. 587 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: Side there's still a number of names That dan AND 588 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 1: i are both. Tracking we obviously need to pay attention 589 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: to What Dante moore is going to. Do that could 590 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: HAVE i, think real significance both in terms of what 591 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: goes down At oregon and the knock on. Effect could 592 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: be something with Ty. Simpson does he stay in the, 593 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: draft does he decide you want to come back to. 594 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: College there's a whole bunch of other stuff here THAT 595 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: i think remains to be, Seen so keep it. Here 596 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: we will do our part to keep you up the 597 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: speed on what's going on in and around the transfer. 598 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: Portal we did get a bunch of. Questions, Congratulations, skippy 599 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: you've got. Mail you've got mail on the solid Ruble 600 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: dan as often as we, can and it's hard to 601 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: do during the, season you, know, Sure but when we 602 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: get to this point in the, year we like to 603 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: pay sweet homage the verbawlers out there at verballers dot. 604 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: Com we will start today With, daniel one of Our surti, 605 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: verbawlers who wants to know who wins a playoff game, 606 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: First Matt campbell At Penn state Or James franklin At Virginia. Tech, 607 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: daniel my, friend this is a Different. Daniel this is 608 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: a beautiful question AND i salute you for. It, yeah 609 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: who wins one? First In. 610 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: Rubenstein, well there's interesting context to this question with how 611 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: many teams are actually going to be a lot of 612 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: playoff spots moving, forward BECAUSE i think by the end 613 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: of the month we'll have guidance on whether we're staying at. Twelve, 614 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: basically If Greg sanky And Tony petiti can't come to 615 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: a conclusion together ABOUT i Think Tony petiti wants guarantees 616 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: that they'll go to twenty four in a couple of. 617 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: Years if they go to, sixteen this. Year, yeah these 618 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: guys are just gonna just drive this sport into. 619 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: Hell can you imagine what it's going to do to 620 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: us if it's a twenty fourteen? 621 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: Playoff, well basically what's going to happen Is Penn state 622 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: has a better path to the playoff in terms, of you, 623 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: know the potential of getting automatic bids from The big, 624 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 2: ten and there will be more in The Big ten 625 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: than what will come from THE. Acc so in that, 626 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: regard it's an easier. Path IT'S i think an easier 627 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: path For Virginia tech in terms of the depth at 628 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: the top of THE acc right, now especially With Florida 629 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: state doing god knows what in terms of roster. 630 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: Building, yes speaking of the, portal you AND i were 631 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: kicking that one. AROUND i have no idea What Florida 632 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: state is. Doing are they going to go into the 633 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: year With Ashton daniels as the starting? QUARTERBACK i don't 634 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: Mind Ashton, daniels by the. 635 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: WAY i think he's decent and was just at a 636 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: catastrophic point In stanford's, timeline and you, know made plays 637 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: For auburn at the end of the year last. YEAR 638 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: i don't love it as a LONG i don't love 639 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: the long term seeming plan For Florida state right, now 640 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: or you don't SHORT i just. PLAN i don't Dislike Ashton. 641 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: DANIELS i think he can be pretty good. CONTINUE i 642 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: don't know IF i Love Gus miles on calling that, 643 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: offense BUT i, mean if you're trying to get to ten, 644 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 2: wins if You're Florida state and THE, ACC i don't. 645 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: KNOW i think there are different. 646 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: Routes, well the point is that THE acc is is 647 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: there Right it's there for the getting and you've Got, 648 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: Miami you've got a school like AN smu that has 649 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: done very well over the last couple of. YEARS i 650 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on With clemson right. Now 651 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: The North carolina experiment is going to take at least another. 652 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: Year virginia kind of came out of. Nowhere maybe they 653 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: can continue and build on some of that. Success BUT 654 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: i think you're looking around the landscape and the point 655 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 1: about how many playoff teams gets in is certainly, valid 656 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: but just in terms of the, pathway and it seems 657 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: to me like it's much easier for AN acc team 658 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: at this point in, time especially IN acc that's kind 659 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: of all over the, place so right, Now i'm a. 660 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: Recording my bet would be On James franklin In Virginia. Tech, 661 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: okay just BECAUSE i think it's easier to get to 662 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: the playoff through THE acc than it is through The Big. 663 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 2: Ten, okay. Fair it's interesting BECAUSE i, mean just more 664 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 2: broadly speaking about the nature of this, question is we're 665 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: in a golden era of measuring stick situations between WHAT 666 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: usc And oklahoma With lincoln rileyep BETWEEN lsu And Ole. 667 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: Miss now Between Penn state And Virginia. Tech maybe it 668 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: seems like there's some bad blood among The utah fans 669 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 2: About Kyle whittingham leaving for another job In. Michigan SO i, 670 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: know golden era of bad blood measuring stick. Situations i'm 671 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 2: going to Say Penn. State i'm going to Say Penn 672 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 2: state BECAUSE i am still a believer in program. Ceiling 673 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: i'm still a believer in what you can do with the, 674 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: roster And i'm a believer in. Look Matt campbell was 675 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: basically a cyborg cam scataboo scataboo scataboo performance last, season 676 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four season from making The Collegeable, playoff, 677 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 2: Obviously James franklin made the final four At Penn. State 678 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: Penn state has been more consistently a place where teams 679 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: can win big Than Virginia. Tech So i'm gonna go 680 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,720 Speaker 2: With Penn. State it's a more meaningful institution to build 681 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: top ten classes upon each, other and that is the 682 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: surest way to at least get to the, playoff as 683 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 2: difficult as a road that Includes, Indiana Ohio, State, oregon 684 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 2: my Beautiful Minnesota Golden gophers in twenty twenty, six take your. Pick, 685 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah i'm gonna Say Penn state because of that, CEILING i, 686 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: think is my answer right. 687 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: Now, YEAH i mean THE x factor Is Matt campbell 688 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: is at a place now with you, know boatloads more 689 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: in terms of resources than his previous. Stop and that 690 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: is what you are betting on if you Are Pat, 691 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: kraft if you're A Penn, stater putting a guy like, 692 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: that still very, young had a really good track record 693 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: at each of his previous two stops of doing more with, 694 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: less which is essentially the argument Against James, franklin the 695 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: fact that he could not do more with more down 696 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: the stretch in his time in state. College that's why 697 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: he's now In. Blacksburg so from that, STANDPOINT i think 698 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: you like it if you're A Penn state or if 699 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: you're rooting On Matt campbell, here if you think that 700 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: he is the answer to the, QUESTION i just think 701 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: in terms of getting it off the ground, quicker it's Probably. 702 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: Franklin At Virginia. Tech he basically brought the best of 703 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: The Penn state roster with. Him not to say That 704 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: campbell didn't do that To Penn state From Iowa, state 705 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: BUT i think the depth of talent That franklin got 706 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: in very short order At Virginia tech had a little 707 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: bit of a head start taking that job before things really. 708 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: BROKE i think that suits him. Well just in terms 709 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: of the answer to this, QUESTION i have bigger questions 710 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: About franklin longer term At Virginia, tech and because it 711 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: seems like he is building the exact same machine there 712 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: that he did At Penn. State if it's going to 713 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: produce results above and beyond what we saw In state 714 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: call dat remains to be. Seen but strictly in terms 715 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: of who wins the game, FIRST i think it's It's Franklin. 716 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: Already the answer Is. Franklin Because franklin did win a 717 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: playoff game in his time At Penn, state but let's 718 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: Go franklin At Virginia tech for. 719 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 2: Me, yeah and we still don't for sure know who 720 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 2: his quarterback is going to. Be, Right Ethan gronkmeyer is 721 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: crystal ball there at time of, recording but is not. Committed, yes, 722 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: right that's. Right so then you're, Like, okay who's closer 723 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: to being a playoff? Quarterback Rock goback to Or Ethan, 724 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: Grounkmeyer which is a conversation we all knew we'd be 725 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 2: having right. Now but, YEAH i THINK i give the 726 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: nod To Penn state, here BUT i don't think either 727 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 2: one of these teams is making it this coming. Year 728 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: unless we go to, like you, know sixteen twenty four, 729 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 2: teams then everybody's making it all? 730 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: Right another question than give you a little sound? There why? 731 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: NOT i love That jonathan one of our certified for 732 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: ballers out of forballers Dot com, again add free, episodes 733 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: get everything a little bit, Early Discord access can play 734 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of our, games so on and so. Forth 735 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: how early is too early to start Hating? Indiana it's 736 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 1: a good question for, me as a neutral fan who 737 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: generally roots for. Underdogs i've been enjoying The indiana story all, 738 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: season but in the past couple of weeks they've firmly 739 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: transitioned to overdog. STATUS i don't know If i've ever 740 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: heard overdog. Before that's a good. 741 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 2: WORD i like. 742 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: It so SHOULD i start hating now or wait until next? Season, 743 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 1: Dan i'm gonna put this one to. You the only 744 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: team that Your Orgon dux lost. 745 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 2: To oh, YEAH i think you just got to follow your. 746 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 2: HEART i can't tell you how to feel. 747 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: Feel how do you feel About? 748 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 2: Indiana i'm REALLY i can't help but to be super 749 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 2: impressed By. INDIANA i can't help but to be. JEALOUS 750 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: i can't help it to be. Impressed and WHATEVER i 751 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 2: believe about these Fawning Kurt signetti, profiles how are you? 752 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 2: Like unless the like Insane twitter rumors are true that 753 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: they've hacked every, single you, know practice cam footage across 754 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: all of their, opponents which would be very difficult unless 755 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 2: you had a man on the, inside, which by the, 756 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: Way ty AND i were making a pitch we're going 757 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 2: to make this. Movie who would Play Kurt? Signetti uh Oh? 758 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: Man Maybe David wallace from The. OFFICE i don't think 759 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 2: there's the physical, thing BUT i don't, know we'd have 760 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: to give it some. 761 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: Thought we could write this. Movie you AND i are creative. 762 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: Enough we could write this. 763 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 2: Movie but we do need to have a man on 764 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: the inside who has completely hacked all of the footage 765 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 2: and got all of the hand signals and FOUR k 766 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 2: over To Aiden fisher or. Something barring that being, true 767 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 2: WHICH i don't, BELIEVE i have, nothing but like you, 768 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: know how do you watch this team and not come 769 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 2: away jealous that your team isn't able to operate like? This, 770 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 2: well look like your team isn't even the best team 771 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,760 Speaker 2: in that state, anymore. 772 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: Right, now right now there Look first, Off, jonathan thank 773 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: you for giving us. Overdog i've never heard of that 774 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: before my. Overdome i've been doing this. Forever i've never 775 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: heard of. Overdog i'm going to start using, that and 776 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: it's courtesy of, You so thank. You, YEAH i would 777 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: wait until next. SEASON i would wait until next. SEASON i. 778 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: Understand anybody who follows sports understands it doesn't. Matter if 779 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: it's a, team doesn't, matter if it's a, player doesn't, 780 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: matter if it's a media, personality anybody or anything in 781 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: the sports world that has just suddenly sold to. You 782 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: generally goes a little bit, still it wouldn't be the 783 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: first time that The cinderella story or the it person 784 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: or player or whatever suddenly is a little too much 785 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: tired of hearing about it and you decide to flip 786 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: to a one to eighty and start hating. Autumn, Right 787 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: this would be like just the next the next example 788 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 1: in a long list of examples where this is happening 789 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: college football or sports as a. Whole H they haven't 790 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: want anything. Yet this isn't An alabama. Situation alabama was 791 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 1: winning all those. Titles undersave, it they didn't win. Yet 792 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: it still is just kind of a cool. Story And 793 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: signette's been getting his due and rightfully. So BUT i 794 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: think you gotta wait until they actually win, something i. 795 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: E national. Championship the fact that they have made it 796 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: to this game they are favored by a touchdown and 797 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: a half a time of. RECORDING i think you gotta 798 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: wait until next. Season let's reevaluate, Then, jonathan and see 799 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: how you. Feel because they win a national, championship then 800 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: you can start. Talking you, know it seems like they 801 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: start off hot again next year With Josh hoover And 802 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: nick marsh and whoever they brought in via the transfer. 803 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: Portal then it's, like then it. Start it's fair to 804 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: start feeling those. Feelings BUT i think we gotta. Wait 805 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: that's just my. 806 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 2: Opinion, also like forget About. Signetti obviously everybody Wants Kurtz 807 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 2: signetti to be their. Coach Like Fernando mendoza is a 808 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 2: very likable quality dork playing quarterback For. Indiana, yes, right 809 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: he's like he's so. Inoffensive he seems to be like 810 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 2: very very, polite like sprinted After Dan lanning after they 811 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 2: won that, game to shake his hand and say good 812 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 2: things about him or say good things to, Him like 813 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: he's just he's a likable quality dork who is now 814 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 2: playing for national. CHAMPIONSHIP i would love to know more 815 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 2: about what went down AT. CAL i have heard, rumors, 816 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 2: yes about what went down At cal with regard to 817 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: like not being guaranteed a starting spot with the five 818 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 2: star quarterback coming in and your guy. JKS i only 819 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 2: say your guy because you're very proud of learning the pronunciation. 820 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: Pool, yeah, yes. 821 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: Correct curious about that because he doesn't seem like a 822 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 2: guy who would make a decision to leave after starting 823 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 2: for a couple of. 824 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: Years, lightly. 825 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 2: The overdog thing is, interesting BUT i don't think it's 826 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 2: it can happen right. NOW i think we have to 827 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 2: sort of see the season through to see how they, 828 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: are how they comport, themselves how they do or don't Throttle, 829 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 2: miami and go from. There BUT i think we enjoy 830 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 2: this right as it's. 831 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: Going we also got a question here From, sean one 832 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 1: of our premium for, ballers who has a question About 833 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: Kurt signetti and whether or not he made a deal 834 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: with The. Devil did he give his soul in exchange 835 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: for this? Season this isn't much of a, question BUT 836 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: i do have something to add on. This, OKAY, a 837 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: if he did make a deal with The, devil he 838 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: negotiated one hell of a buyout B. B the secret 839 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: sauce to WHAT i think we are seeing right now With. 840 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: Signetti it's been a masterclass in fundamentals and roster, efficiency full. 841 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: Stop AND i get that it feels like. Magic it 842 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: feels like magic to. Me i'm sure it feels like 843 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: magic to a bunch of The indiana fans out, There 844 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: but this is truly what happens when you create the 845 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: type of culture that is highly disciplined and based on 846 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: production over promise and we are seeing the absolute best 847 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 1: version of that, blueprint and so it's very blue. Collar 848 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 1: it's not a lot of. Flash but whenever you can 849 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: win The Big, ten reach to reach and win the 850 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: college football playoff semi, final and do so in this 851 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: short period of. Time, yeah even though it feels like 852 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 1: there is pixie dust here and there's probably a, little 853 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: this IS i think just the best possible testament to 854 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 1: having a culture in place that's really, disciplined where there's mutual, 855 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: respect where guys are playing for one. Another this is 856 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: the epitome of really really good team, football AND i 857 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 1: don't think it's anything. More, now there are some Fun 858 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: twitter rumors out, there, okay about how the pixie dust is, 859 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: manifesting but that. ASIDE i just it's not a deal 860 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: with the. Devil he's just really good at, this and 861 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: he has found the right guys that have bought in. 862 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: Completely he's got good coordinators around. Him they're very good 863 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: at scouting the. Portal he, himself in his time At 864 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: alabama has been lauded for his to go out there 865 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,479 Speaker 1: and scout, recruits even guys on the. TEAM i, mean 866 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: he just happens to be very good at this and 867 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: now give him some resources and give him the opportunity At. 868 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 1: Indiana he's making the most of. It that's, okay that's the. 869 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 2: Story, well this is what you have to, believe, though 870 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 2: you have to believe if you don't believe that there's 871 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 2: anything a, MISS i don't believe there's anything in a. Miss, 872 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 2: no you kind of have to believe That Kurt signetti 873 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: is the best talent evaluator and. Coach, Ever, no you. 874 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: Don't, yes you do ever. 875 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 2: Without coaching at a power for place as a head. Coach, 876 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 2: ever without major level coaching experience as a head, coach 877 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 2: he is going to be an overdog to win the 878 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: national championship in year. Two Nick saban won a national 879 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 2: championship AT. Lsu before he won in it was what 880 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 2: year three At, alabama right Beating. Texas so what they 881 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 2: lose To utah in The Sugar bowl year two and 882 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 2: then they go whatever seven and five in year. One 883 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 2: that's a different. Era it's a different portal. Era If 884 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 2: Nick saban existed in the portal era when he you 885 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 2: know where his you, Know alabama, stop he would have 886 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 2: this team competing for national championship in year two as. 887 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 2: Well But alabama is Not indiana the resources Of alabama 888 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 2: in the mid to late two. 889 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 1: Thousands it's just a different. 890 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: PLACE i think you have to fully believe, that because 891 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 2: it's just it's that, unprecedented especially given the depth of 892 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 2: The Big, ten given that all of these major places have, 893 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 2: money and a lot of them have really good, coaches 894 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 2: and he is embarrassing them all except For Penn. 895 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 1: State. 896 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 2: Weirdly, yeah, yeah that you just you have to put 897 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 2: his two year performance up against anybody's, ever given the 898 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,400 Speaker 2: level of difficulty in turning something around Like. Indiana so 899 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 2: you have to believe that he is in the shortest of. 900 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 2: Lists not in terms of like dynastic. Careers there's dynasty word, 901 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 2: again thank you very. Much right that you look at you, 902 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 2: know there's coaches everywhere at these major schools that have 903 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 2: won multiple national, Championships like that's a different, conversation but 904 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 2: just in terms of what he's done in two years 905 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: at a place like, this his singular coaching immediate coaching 906 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 2: talent has to be regarded as shortlist best. Ever and 907 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 2: so if you believe, that then here we. Are if 908 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 2: you don't believe, that then that's when you're, like there's 909 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 2: a man on the inside at all the platform that the. 910 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: Cloud, company, yeah somebody at Like Amazon Web. SERVICES i 911 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: only want that to be, true given them a, PASSWORD. 912 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 2: I only want that to be. True SO i can 913 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 2: read THE i, mean it'll be AN espn writer because 914 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 2: it's in The big. Ten so they're not going to 915 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 2: break that story about AN sec. Coach so it'll BE 916 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 2: i don't, Know Chris, Lowe Pete fammel will break that. 917 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 2: STORY i can't wait to read. It but the odds 918 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 2: of that actually being true zero point two percent to. 919 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: Me his two year run goes on some List i'm 920 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 1: not sure, which and. 921 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 2: We already has done this to this. 922 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: Level, ever, WELL i think it goes without saying that 923 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: what he's done via the portal is in its own. 924 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: Strategy of, course of, course it's this ERA i get. 925 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: It you, KNOW i, mean it's it's difficult to compare 926 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: eras because each area is a little bit, different and 927 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 1: this portal thing is still relatively, new and we have 928 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 1: seen different versions of acquiring talent through the. Portal on 929 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: one side of, it you've got What diannis tried to 930 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: do At. Colorado mixed results, there right to say the. 931 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: Least But i'd say. So it's it's definitely been pushing the, 932 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: limits and we've seen other schools kind of go that, 933 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: route either out of necessity or just out of, philosophy 934 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,919 Speaker 1: to try and just load everything up with as many 935 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: transfers as you. Can that's one. Approach the other, IS 936 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: i think a little bit. More you're like. Spearfishing You're 937 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: Ohio state going out spending a lot on a couple 938 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 1: guys that you think win you a national. Championship that. 939 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: Worked signetti has sort of adapted more to that side of. 940 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 1: THINGS i think needed a little bit more help Than Ohio. 941 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: State there wasn't as much talent on, hand but the 942 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: guys that he has gone, after, again it's production over, 943 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,919 Speaker 1: promise and he has proven very adept that assimilating those 944 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,439 Speaker 1: guys into his. System, so whether it's talent, evaluation whether 945 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 1: it's talent, development whether it's just culture of discipline getting 946 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: buy in right, away it's some combination of those things, That, 947 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah signette's on a, LIST i just don't know which. 948 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: One i'm a little hesitant to say he's one of 949 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: the best ever at evaluating talent because we're only in 950 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: your Two but if this, continues for let's say five, 951 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: years if we continue to see this run continue like 952 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 1: this at that, point, yes it's not just, Luck, no 953 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: it is not a. Fluke and for sure he's got 954 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,240 Speaker 1: to be on one of those evaluator lists full. Stop 955 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 1: BUT i just need more. DATA i need you, know, sorry. 956 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 2: You know right now in this era of the coaches 957 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 2: who have tried to overhaul rosters immediately and, win especially 958 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 2: coming from jobs as head coaches elsewhere in college. Football 959 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 2: so like Disregarding Bill, belichick he is a better current 960 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 2: coach Than Rich. Rodriguez he's a better current coach Than Dion. 961 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,399 Speaker 2: Sanders there are, players there are coaches who have tried 962 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 2: to bring in players you, know in the thirty forty 963 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 2: range in a portal class or something like, that and 964 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 2: have done everything they can to succeed in non huge 965 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 2: conferences at non like disastrous places Like indiana has traditionally, 966 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 2: been and he has succeeded ten times to the point 967 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 2: that those other guys Have and SO i just, look 968 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 2: he's obviously a product of the current, era but it's 969 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 2: so fully unprecedented and just in terms of evaluation that 970 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 2: every single one of these guys hit seemingly. 971 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,240 Speaker 1: It's pretty close to. It, okay so not an overdog, 972 00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: yet but it's pretty. Close let's move on another, Question, 973 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: Dan let's go to this one From, thomas one of 974 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 1: our premium for. Ballers, yes which teams exceeded your expectations 975 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty? Five? Oh, okay he, says obviously the 976 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 1: team's playing for the national, championship but who? Else and then, 977 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: conversely which teams are you most disappointed in this? Season 978 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: so this could mean a number of different. Things, yeah 979 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he needed to win a conference or get 980 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: to the, playoff but teams that exceeded, expectations teams that. 981 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: DIDN'T i have a short list for. Me you kick 982 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 1: it over to, you, though to start, up who exceeded 983 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 1: your expectations and who? 984 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 2: Didn't Texas tech certainly exceeded my, Expectations arizona exceeded my. 985 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 2: Expectations virginia exceeded my. Expectations i'm trying to think of 986 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 2: just the positive. Ones houston definitely. EXCEEDED i think they improved. 987 00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: LIST i, mean there are a bunch Of big twelve 988 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: schools that actually think are on this list for, me 989 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 1: But HOUSTON i think is chief among. 990 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 2: Them, YEAH i Thought indiana would be really, good but not. 991 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 2: This indiana exceeded my expectations in THE. SEC i Think, 992 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 2: oklahoma given their, Schedule, yeah even THOUGH i didn't love their, 993 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 2: offense finishing in the top ten the regular, season that 994 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:26,760 Speaker 2: exceeded my. Expectations i'm trying to think who else THAT'S 995 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 2: i think Where i'm. AT i THINK i Liked vanderbilt 996 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 2: coming into the. YEAR i don't know IF i like 997 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 2: them top, fifteen BUT i like. 998 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: Them, YEAH i don't think either one of us liked 999 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: them this. Much all, Right so for, me some of 1000 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: the ones that were DISAPPOINTING i think are fairly. Obvious 1001 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: Like Penn state was, Disappointing Florida i'm. Disappointing clemson was very. 1002 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: Disappointing Florida state is still. DISAPPOINTING i have no idea 1003 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: what they're. DOING i have no idea What Florida state 1004 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: is doing right. 1005 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 2: Now right. 1006 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: In terms of, teams though that exceeded, expectations you bring 1007 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: up two that are have to be at front of the. List. 1008 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 1: Houston huge year For houston And Willie Fritz. Oklahoma say 1009 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: what you went about the, offense But oklahoma to get 1010 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,399 Speaker 1: to the playoff with that schedule is damn. Impressive mm, hmm, 1011 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,319 Speaker 1: absolutely above and. Beyond. ABSOLUTELY i will Put Mississippi state 1012 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: in here. 1013 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 2: Too, YEAH i, agree you, know crawl before you. 1014 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: Walk finish five and, eight whatever it, was wasn't necessarily 1015 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: the best, season but played whistle to. WHISTLE i liked 1016 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: WHAT i saw At Mississippi state and leads me to 1017 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: think that maybe there could be a brighter future. AHEAD 1018 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: i look at a team like The Washington huskies nine 1019 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,320 Speaker 1: wins season right finished nine to. Four, Yeah washington looks 1020 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 1: like they're going to keep their coach or excuse me, what, 1021 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: well looks like they're gonna kill and quarterback and. QUARTERBACK 1022 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: i think What washington did this season was damn impressive to, 1023 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: me and they kind of exceeded my. 1024 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 2: EXPECTATIONS i, mean they didn't do much against the best 1025 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 2: teams on, schedule and they lost one of the most 1026 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 2: catastrophic performances against an average. Wisconstantine but, yes by and, 1027 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,720 Speaker 2: large it seemed like they took a step forward considering 1028 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 2: where that roster was After kalin de, BOR i. 1029 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: Agree the one that you did not mention THAT i 1030 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: think needs to be at the top of the absolute 1031 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 1: top of this. List is The bay disappointing or, no, 1032 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 1: no no impressed exceeding expectations B Yu, YEAH, BYU i 1033 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:31,280 Speaker 1: mean look to lose your quarterback that late in summer 1034 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: and still find a way to be on the cusp 1035 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: of playoff eligibility is wild with a true freshman quarterback 1036 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: to get to and play in The big twelve title 1037 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: game and then to be on that just you, know 1038 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 1: first two or three out line with respect to the 1039 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,959 Speaker 1: Playoff that to, me above and beyond was the team 1040 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: THAT i was most impressed by who exceeded my. 1041 00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 2: EXPECTATIONS i Think miami to various, degrees he's exceeded our. 1042 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 2: Expectations you did not have, THEM. 1043 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: I THINK i was out of MY i Had miami 1044 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: eight and. 1045 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 2: Four, yeah you didn't have them playing for THE i 1046 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,360 Speaker 2: mean if you said you didn't have them playing for 1047 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 2: THE Acc, championship you would have been right because they 1048 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 2: did not play for THE Aec. Championship AND i guess 1049 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 2: on that level Sidebar duke weirdly exceeded. Expectations they won THE. 1050 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 2: Acc they took an unorthodox path to getting, there so 1051 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 2: they exceeded our. Expectations But miami to this, level even 1052 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 2: IF i Had miami competing for THE ACC i did 1053 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 2: not have them competing for the national championship in Late. 1054 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 2: January so they exceeded our. Expectations Carson beck honestly exceeded my. 1055 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 2: Expectations even though they haven't been an explosive downfield passing, 1056 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 2: attack which you know was in doubt given his his elbow. 1057 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 2: Rehab he's been an enormous winner For. Miami won the 1058 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 2: game with his legs Against ole miss in the in 1059 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 2: the final, Four so, YEAH i would include. Them tulane 1060 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 2: with a last second, Quarterback, yeah they were on the 1061 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 2: side of. 1062 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 1: It. 1063 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 2: Uh North texas taking a walk on quarterback who did 1064 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 2: not play in high school and bombing it on. Everybody. Yeah, 1065 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah North texas exceeded my expectations. Absolutely navy exceeded my expectations. 1066 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely i'm trying to think other, teams the two NEW fbs, 1067 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 2: Teams delaware And Missouri, State oh, yeah being winning PROGRAMS 1068 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 2: i have For let me get in to this next. 1069 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: Question, OKAY i got any question on. This this one 1070 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: comes to us From davis certified for ball Or. Davis, 1071 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 1: hello thank you appreciate some, support he, says, uh which 1072 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 1: under reported coordinator OR g five head coaching. Hires are 1073 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: you excited to see play? Out? 1074 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 2: Oh not what they did in twenty twenty, five because 1075 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 2: it's Obviously Jason ack In New. 1076 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 1: Mexico i'm gonna throw speaking Of Missoo, State, Okay AND 1077 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: i don't even know if calling Them Missoo state is 1078 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: considered a, Pejorative so excuse, me Miss Missouri state. Fans 1079 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: But Oka Missouri state Hiring Casey woods away FROM. SMU 1080 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: i thought it was a really good. Hire Casey woods 1081 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 1: have been very good AT. Smu i've got four other names. 1082 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: Here Charles huff At. Memphis not crazy about his propensity 1083 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: to jump. Around, yeah always leads me a bit, leary 1084 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: but you will have better resources At. Memphis it's a 1085 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: school that has a nice football tradition. 1086 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 2: And major program, experience WHICH i. 1087 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 1: Had a program, experience AND i think he's a good. Coach. 1088 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah Billy napier At James Madison Sun. Belt billy in 1089 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,479 Speaker 1: the Sun, belt back where we all thought he should 1090 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 1: belong after a year or two At, florida but here we. 1091 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: ARE jmu typically hires pretty, well AND i Think Billy 1092 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: napier is still a pretty good. Coach it did not 1093 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 1: work out At. FLORIDA i hope he is going to 1094 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: be a little bit more flexible with respect to who 1095 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 1: is calling plays and delegation of duties and. Whatnot but 1096 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,920 Speaker 1: Can Billion napier go back to The Sun belt at 1097 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: a plays LIKE jmu and do. Well, yeah, absolutely he 1098 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,439 Speaker 1: can do well. There i'm out on. It. Continue Jim 1099 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: mora junior At Colorado. STATE i THINK i like. That not, 1100 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: young BUT i like it not, young older than you, 1101 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: think mm. Hmm But Jim moore junior turned That yukon 1102 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: program around very, quickly And Colorado state is a school with. 1103 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 1: Resources did not have a good year at all in 1104 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: The Mountain. West BUT i kind of like this move 1105 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: and the only the other one That i'll throw out 1106 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 1: here not gonna get a lot of. LOVE i really 1107 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: like the hire Of JaMarcus shepherd At Oregon. State, OKAY 1108 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: i think he could be really solid out. There not 1109 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 1: a whole lot of head coaching or even play calling, 1110 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 1: experience BUT i like this hire more THAN i. Expected, 1111 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: okay those are five names for, You davis That i'm 1112 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 1: excited to see play. 1113 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 2: OUT i really really Liked toledo And Mike jacobs thought 1114 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 2: he was great At. 1115 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 1: Mercer that's a good. One that's a really good, One. Ashley. 1116 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, RELATED i Think Jason kendall should be good At 1117 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 2: yukon just having the experience that he has And yukon 1118 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 2: being a winning program right. NOW i think he has 1119 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 2: the ability to keep that. Going i'm trying to think 1120 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,640 Speaker 2: of who. Else i'm not A Neil brown, guy NOT g, 1121 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 2: five BUT i am fully out On pat fitzshal At Michigan. 1122 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 1: State i'm fully out on that, now fully. 1123 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Out i'm trying to think who. Else, OH i Like 1124 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 2: Kirby Moore. Wazoo Herby moore At Wazoo local called offense 1125 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,479 Speaker 2: at a big place and say what you will about 1126 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 2: Whatever missouri's results. WERE i, thought given the, results give 1127 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 2: that he had multiple quarterbacks at missoo like Just delta 1128 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 2: a good amount of adversity ran the hell out of 1129 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 2: the ball this. YEAR i just think it's it's a. 1130 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Fit AND i don't think he looks at that as 1131 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 2: Like i'm going to be gone in a year type, 1132 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 2: job at LEAST i hope. Not but given THAT i 1133 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 2: think he's From Eastern, Washington i'm in on that high. 1134 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: RIGHT i tell you my story about. That by the, 1135 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 1: WAY i don't think so. WHAT i got a very 1136 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 1: cryptic D m from a, listener, okay who reported to 1137 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: me That Kirby moore was going to be the highest 1138 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: that he, Was and this is like a day or 1139 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 1: two before anyone was talking about, this that he was 1140 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 1: at the airport and he's gonna be hired By. Wazoo 1141 01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 1: didn't say, anything you, KNOW i don't know what DO 1142 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: i trust? Anymore but bo and. Behold about forty eight hours, 1143 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 1: Later Kirby moore's the, higher don AND i responded, BACK 1144 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 1: i GOT i got nothing in. Reply SO i don't 1145 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: know if this was the ghost Of Kirby Kirby moore 1146 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: future or what it. Was BUT i may have had 1147 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 1: this first AND i didn't know. It, okay fair, enough 1148 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: let's go one more question here from a good, Friend Raoul. 1149 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 1: Dan ACTUALLY i got two. MORE i got two more 1150 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 1: ghost mas role certified for Fall. Er he, says My 1151 01:01:55,400 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: gators were not close to national title contention this. Year 1152 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 1: but as a Native miami In i'm really moved By 1153 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Fernando mendoza likely finishing his college career in his hometown 1154 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 1: against The Miami, hurricanes especially given the historical inertia Of 1155 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: miami playing national title games in its own stadium in 1156 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: the eighties and early. NINETIES i grew up around people 1157 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 1: Like mendoza And Mario, Cristobal catholic, School Cuban american, roots 1158 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: dominoes at family, gatherings drinking cafecito Outside Cafe versai Or La. 1159 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 1: CARRETTE correcti, okay don't know how to say That i've 1160 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: went To. Versailles, yeah grandparents arriving in the early, sixties et, 1161 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: cetera et, cetera et. Cetera is there a national sports Story, 1162 01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 1: dan college football or otherwise that you felt you understood 1163 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: more deeply because it was rooted in the place in 1164 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 1: culture grew up, In, Raoul my good, Friend, raoul this 1165 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 1: is a fabulous, question AND i thank you for asking. 1166 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 1: It thank you for talk about but thank you for 1167 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 1: asking this. Question are you gonna talk About Dan kendra? 1168 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Now is this your? Moment this could be My Dan candrew? Moment? Yeah? 1169 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 2: Uh is there a national sports story THAT i understood? 1170 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 2: More oh? Man so there have been a lot of 1171 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 2: athletes who have been huge names from Where i'm. FROM 1172 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 2: i am A Sierra canyon alumnus, tie of, course which 1173 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 2: is Where Bronnie james went to, school, Sorry Sierra canyon basketball, 1174 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 2: alumnus middle, school not high, school SO i can understand 1175 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 2: the culture of major basketball what happened In valley EVERYWHERE 1176 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 2: i went high. School, WISE i, said you're too, good 1177 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 2: you got too much, game your handle's too. 1178 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: Preposterous and now he's just podcasting like the rest of. 1179 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Us that's what an Inspirational. 1180 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 2: CAN i tell you one that actually is, true sort 1181 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 2: of The Earthquake kids nineteen ninety Four Northridge Little League 1182 01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 2: World series. TEAM i was in that. Earthquake northridge's right. 1183 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 2: There that's also like not far From Sierrah. Canyon so 1184 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,720 Speaker 2: LIKE i appreciated that they became a story WHEN i 1185 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 2: was a, kid but in terms of like the the 1186 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 2: local story THAT i appreciate THAT i have a better understanding, 1187 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 2: OF i don't know IF i fully, do like being 1188 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 2: From Los angeles or The Los angeles. Area i'm trying to, 1189 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 2: think like, Ty i've told you all my like sports 1190 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,760 Speaker 2: background stories and like Who i've come, across you, know 1191 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 2: as a kid and growing. UP i don't know THAT 1192 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 2: i have, one but it's like on the national level like, 1193 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 2: This i'm trying to. THINK i don't want to bring 1194 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 2: down the mood too. Much uh, OH i mean you 1195 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 2: had The Penn state. Insight, yeah But. 1196 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 1: I've lived In pennsylvania my entire. LIFE i went To Penn. 1197 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 1: State you AND i were podcasting through the scandal year, 1198 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 1: years AND i felt like in the MOMENT i had 1199 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 1: a much better or understanding of what that. Meant let's, 1200 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 1: say to this part of the, country to this. State 1201 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Penn state And Joe paterna was an, institution an, institution 1202 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,120 Speaker 1: the way that came crashing, down in the manner in 1203 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 1: which it came crashing. DOWN i talked about this on the. 1204 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 1: SHOW i remember it. Vividly but there's this moment with sports. 1205 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Stories you, know sports stories by and large are kind 1206 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: of relegated to the sports bubble people that follow. Sports 1207 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: but on occasion you'll have one that breaks contained and 1208 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 1: you can be walking around the, supermarket walking Around, wegmans, 1209 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 1: definitely and when you hear two old ladies next to 1210 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: each other with their shopping carts who don't otherwise look 1211 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: like they are diehard sports fans talking about what is 1212 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 1: going on At Penn, state that's when you know something 1213 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,919 Speaker 1: big is going. On, yeah that's generally not a good. 1214 01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 1: Feeling AND i just remember what it was like around 1215 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 1: here when that was all going, down AND i remember 1216 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,400 Speaker 1: how the world kind of. Stopped, obviously it was. Horrible 1217 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,400 Speaker 1: it was a horrible news story on a million different. 1218 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 1: Levels BUT i THINK i have a pretty good sense 1219 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 1: of how that affected people around here in a way 1220 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 1: that it didn't From. Afar and so for me not 1221 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 1: to bring the mood down, here you grew up and 1222 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 1: went to. School like within the rhythms of The Penn state, 1223 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: universe it was a very very big deal, here and 1224 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: to a large part it still. Is but watching that story, 1225 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 1: unfold the effect that it had on people again on 1226 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: a million different, levels and just the nature of it 1227 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 1: being as horrible as it, was IT i just don't 1228 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: think people had a full understanding for what it was 1229 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 1: like to be in this part of the country throughout. 1230 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,160 Speaker 1: That and TOTALLY i was. LISTEN i AS i, said 1231 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 1: grew up, here went, there went to school, there went 1232 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 1: to the. Game immediately, afterwards it was like a. Funeral it. 1233 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 1: Was it was one of the most bizarre THINGS i 1234 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 1: have ever kind of felt in my. Life and it 1235 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: just so happens that it was sports adjacent and something 1236 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 1: THAT i had some insight Into. 1237 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 2: OKAY i mean that all makes. SENSE i MEAN i 1238 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 2: always knew what it was, like AND i you, know 1239 01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 2: didn't go to school in Southern california at LIKE usc or, 1240 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 2: something BUT i always appreciated when on like the positive 1241 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 2: spectrum of all of, This LIKE i knew WHAT la 1242 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 2: was like having been from there WHEN usc was exploding 1243 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 2: in the two, thousands right, that Like la is a superstar. 1244 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 2: Town like nobody's gonna pay attention TO usc OR ucla 1245 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 2: unless they're excellent and have names tied to that. Excellence 1246 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 2: so WHEN usc was exploding With Matt lionard And Reggie, 1247 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 2: bush Like i'd been to a couple of games WHEN 1248 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 2: i was home from school or before school started and, 1249 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 2: stuff and like you know you sort of feel that. 1250 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,320 Speaker 2: Energy but it was cool seeing that from you, know far, 1251 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 2: away even THOUGH i was sort of ALSO i was 1252 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 2: rooting for it and against it AS i was becoming 1253 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 2: An oregon fan WHEN i went to school In. Eugene but, 1254 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 2: yeah like all all of the like the HUGE la 1255 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 2: teams that were huge nationally or, internationally The Kobe shack, 1256 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 2: years going to games, there like you just you understood 1257 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 2: how big of a show that was, locally even though 1258 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,720 Speaker 2: everybody around the world was watching teams like. THAT i 1259 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 2: feel it with The dodgers and Big dodger, games having 1260 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 2: grown up going to those, games went to The Dennis 1261 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 2: martinez perfect, game Those. DODGERS i was, there, Brother. 1262 01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,200 Speaker 1: I've seen. It no, Hitter i've never seen a perfect. 1263 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 1: Game that's a perfect. 1264 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 2: Game, yeah it was really boring until like the seventh. 1265 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 2: INNING i DON'T i don't know how OLD i, was, 1266 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 2: ten eleven years, old whatever year it. Was when you 1267 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 2: don't see a bunch of, hits when you're a, kide you're, 1268 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:47,679 Speaker 2: like all, right can we see? 1269 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,479 Speaker 1: Something this is like The big Ten. 1270 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 2: West but then you have it explained like this is 1271 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,599 Speaker 2: a really rare, thing and then you're like hanging on every. Pitch, 1272 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah so that that was one of those things that you, 1273 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 2: KNOW i always Appreciated El. Presidente that sounds, Right, Martinez 1274 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 2: Dennis martinez good mustache to great. Mustache, Potentially uh, Yeah 1275 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,040 Speaker 2: i'm trying to think what. Else, obviously like you, Know, 1276 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,040 Speaker 2: organs but on the national, stage a bunch of Teams 1277 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,040 Speaker 2: i've rooted, for you, KNOW i was deeply in like 1278 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,759 Speaker 2: A chicago. Family when The cubs won The world, series 1279 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,559 Speaker 2: and that was very cool and a huge national. 1280 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 1: Story so, YEAH i think what often gets, overlooked AND 1281 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 1: i would welcome people to write in soliverbalogmail dot com 1282 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 1: and kind of share their own stories on. This but 1283 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 1: what what often goes unmentioned is the culture attached to 1284 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,759 Speaker 1: some of these schools and stories and teams and players 1285 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: and coaches and you name. IT i, mean especially with 1286 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,800 Speaker 1: respect to college, football THE. 1287 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,959 Speaker 2: I think sports in, general especially when you get into like, Playoffs, 1288 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 2: olympics like, all like the huge moments it. 1289 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 1: Is but but kind of in our little sphere of 1290 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 1: influence here with respect to COLLEGE i, mean some of 1291 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 1: these schools have such deep roots in the communit and 1292 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 1: it's really difficult to kind of separate one from the. 1293 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 1: Other and that culture is over in some cases hundreds of, years, 1294 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean it really takes, hold and it's easy 1295 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,760 Speaker 1: for those of us on the outside to overlook that 1296 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,160 Speaker 1: type of. Thing and SO i would welcome more stories 1297 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,120 Speaker 1: like it to hear To raoul's, question if there are 1298 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,559 Speaker 1: any national stories THAT i don't know because of your 1299 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 1: upbringing wherever you are maybe meant a little bit more 1300 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,639 Speaker 1: than met the, EYE i totally. 1301 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 2: Agree by the, way Something i've learned the past few 1302 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 2: years living here in The Greater Chicago land. Area people 1303 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 2: love The, cubs you. Know people have all sorts of, 1304 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,160 Speaker 2: crazy great memories About Michael jordan and The Bulls blackhawks 1305 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 2: ONE i, think do they win To Stanley Cup? Finals? 1306 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure no. 1307 01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:55,519 Speaker 2: Idea nobody cares about anything as it relates and compares 1308 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,040 Speaker 2: to what they care about with The Chicago. 1309 01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,120 Speaker 1: Bears, oh The bears of The Alpha. TEMA i went 1310 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:00,639 Speaker 1: To costco On. 1311 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,759 Speaker 2: Saturday bears game was at night right against The, packers 1312 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 2: which obviously a big playoff game given, rivalry revelry and 1313 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 2: everything like. THAT i was not Wearing bears gear AND 1314 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 2: i was one of like eleven people In costco not 1315 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,360 Speaker 2: Wearing bears gear on the day of A bears playoff. 1316 01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 1: Game so do you have Any niners? GEAR i used. 1317 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 2: TO i don't. Anymore it sort of faded AND i didn't. 1318 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:23,800 Speaker 2: Replace but, YEAH i grew up A niners fan because 1319 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 2: The rams And raiders left WHEN i was like, ten or. 1320 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 1: Are the kids gonna Be bears? Fans are they gonna Be? 1321 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: California we've got. Fans the little guy has A Caleb williams. 1322 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 2: Jersey they have an assortment of different jerseys because we 1323 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,400 Speaker 2: have hand me downs coming from friends with older boys 1324 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,280 Speaker 2: around the. Corner so right, now they're just general sports, 1325 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 2: fans but really like The bears and enjoy watching forty 1326 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 2: Nine ers games with me during the. Playoffs but you, 1327 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 2: know they like The dodgers during The World series in the. 1328 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,640 Speaker 2: Playoffs but, again like a lot of these games are 1329 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 2: happening while they're. Sleeping, yeah so they're not like deep 1330 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 2: in it as They're, yeah. 1331 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:04,880 Speaker 1: Exactly all, right one final question, here please let's go 1332 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,839 Speaker 1: To Alex alex as a free member or A, patreon 1333 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,439 Speaker 1: which again you can, do love. It thank, YOU i 1334 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,920 Speaker 1: remember For ballers dot. Com, yeah, absolutely he, says don't 1335 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 1: you have enough data points? Now In TEXAS a AND, 1336 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 1: m no conference championship since nineteen ninety, eight no national 1337 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 1: titles since nineteen thirty, nine scored three points at home 1338 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 1: in a college football playoff game in the biggest game 1339 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,719 Speaker 1: of these schools, existence could not score an offensive touchdown 1340 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,000 Speaker 1: at home Against texas last. Year maybe don't fall for 1341 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 1: the hype in twenty. Six treat them mica ah middle 1342 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 1: of a pack conference team that they historically. Are thank, 1343 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:42,640 Speaker 1: You alex alex is A texas. FAN i did do 1344 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 1: some background here to see where you. Stand but he's not, 1345 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 1: wrong AND i will say this to his. Point, YEAH 1346 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,439 Speaker 1: i was all in ON a AND. M you know. 1347 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,719 Speaker 1: THIS i had him in the playoff before the. Season 1348 01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 1: kind of stuck my neck out as one of the 1349 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:57,799 Speaker 1: only made the. Playoff, right he did make the. Playoff 1350 01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:58,120 Speaker 1: they're very. 1351 01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,760 Speaker 2: Good they didn't go eight and, four, right. 1352 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 1: They didn't waiting for. Him, okay they didn't waiting for 1353 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 1: so uh to that, end, YEAH i think they kind 1354 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 1: of exceeded. Expectations Did texas make the? 1355 01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 2: Playoff hold, on let me write this. 1356 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 1: Text did not make the? Playoffs they did not make? 1357 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 1: Them why we're not. 1358 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,920 Speaker 2: Answering they Beat. Florida though they Beat florida who fired their, 1359 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,639 Speaker 2: Coach no, appears no. 1360 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 1: Continue SHOULD a AND m be one of those schools 1361 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 1: that's on the list for being a? Disappointment AND i 1362 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,160 Speaker 1: bring that up and it sounds. CRAZY i understand. 1363 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 2: That, okay explain. Yourself but. 1364 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Kind of went out with a. Whimper you, know had 1365 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,160 Speaker 1: had a full head of. Steam lost two in a. 1366 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 1: Row that sort did him. In so did going out 1367 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:55,639 Speaker 1: with a? Thud? Ruin what WAS i think, otherwise in our, 1368 01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:00,160 Speaker 1: view a pretty successful season should it ruin WHAT i 1369 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,160 Speaker 1: think was a successful? 1370 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 2: Season this question feels a lot like These democrats aren't 1371 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 2: doing enough to court These, republicans SAYS I, republican or 1372 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 2: These republicans aren't doing enough to court These, democrats SAY 1373 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 2: I democrat or Rep, like you, can't, really as A texas, 1374 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,760 Speaker 2: fan recommend how people Evaluate TEXAS a AND. M can? 1375 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,599 Speaker 2: YOU i just, Look TEXAS a AND m took a step. 1376 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,360 Speaker 2: Forward they didn't go eight in, four, right they took 1377 01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,000 Speaker 2: a step. Forward they didn't Beat. Texas they didn't Beat 1378 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 2: texas last, season and that's okay because they're trying to 1379 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,879 Speaker 2: Where i'm Trying, Jennifer, right isn't that THE. Cj McCollum, 1380 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:43,680 Speaker 2: Thing like they've unquestionably hired a really good coach And 1381 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 2: Mike elko who broke whatever spell they're going, through AND 1382 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 2: i don't. Know it kind of feels, like don't be 1383 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 2: impressed by anything this team is, doing BECAUSE i personally am. 1384 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,200 Speaker 1: NOT i don't. 1385 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,800 Speaker 2: KNOW i think it's okay to be impressed by a 1386 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 2: lot of the steps Forward TEXAS a AND m took this, 1387 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 2: year even if they beat up on a lot of 1388 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,080 Speaker 2: the bottom half of THE, sec because you know, what 1389 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,679 Speaker 2: that's WHAT i Was. TEXAS a AND m didn't always 1390 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 2: beat up on the bottom half of THE. Sec so 1391 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,680 Speaker 2: you got to take progress however you can get. It 1392 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,920 Speaker 2: this world is burning. Down you can appreciate things and 1393 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,400 Speaker 2: people and ideas moving. 1394 01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 1: Forward so, look, YEAH i asked these questions sort of 1395 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,400 Speaker 1: tongue in. Cheek, OKAY i KNOW i was a big 1396 01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 1: fan OF a AND m before the. Year the way 1397 01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:34,840 Speaker 1: they went out was clearly a bit. Underwhelming they spent 1398 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:40,160 Speaker 1: a lot of money on that roster to go out 1399 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,519 Speaker 1: with a thud the way they. Did, sure especially what 1400 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,559 Speaker 1: was it? Like was it thirty five yards of offense 1401 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: in the second half Against texas something like. 1402 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 2: That it feels like. It whatever it, was it was 1403 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:53,920 Speaker 2: a thirty five yard. 1404 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 1: Vibe, Yeah SO i understand the, question especially if you're 1405 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,800 Speaker 1: A texas, fan AND i understand feeling underwhelmed by the 1406 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:07,040 Speaker 1: way THAT a AND m closed out at. Season, yeah 1407 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 1: this is the most college football question. Ever it really. 1408 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 1: Is but WHAT i would say is, THIS i Think 1409 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 1: Mike elko was fundamentally a different kind of. COACH i 1410 01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: think the Way Mike elko is. Building the roster is 1411 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 1: fundamentally different than they've had in the, past AND i, 1412 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,840 Speaker 1: think as you, said it's a very notable step. Forward, 1413 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 1: now sure where does it go from? HERE i have 1414 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,600 Speaker 1: to wait and. See it's not going to be the 1415 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,960 Speaker 1: same roster twenty six is wasn't twenty. Five we're going 1416 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:35,640 Speaker 1: to have some questions to answer on THE a AND m, 1417 01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 1: Front BUT a AND m deserves to be in that 1418 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 1: conversation moving forward the same Way texas, does because of 1419 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,680 Speaker 1: the talent on, hand because of proof of concept THAT 1420 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,200 Speaker 1: i think we saw this. YEAR i don't think it 1421 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,719 Speaker 1: is a strong enough case that just sort of rests 1422 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,599 Speaker 1: on the laurels OF a AND m kind of sucks 1423 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 1: and finds a way to go eight and four every, 1424 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,400 Speaker 1: year especially on the heels of what we saw this, 1425 01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,000 Speaker 1: year WHICH i still think was relatively, successful even if 1426 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,920 Speaker 1: didn't end the WAY a AND m fans would have, hoped. 1427 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 2: RIGHT i, mean look this, again this falls under the 1428 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 2: umbrella of college football fans view every team as a 1429 01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,920 Speaker 2: fraud if they, lose and then the team who wins 1430 01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,120 Speaker 2: the national Championship i'm paraphrasing somebody else's tweet, Here the 1431 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,000 Speaker 2: team who wins The National championship is a fraud themselves 1432 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 2: because they only beat frauds to get. There and so 1433 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,519 Speaker 2: it's just like it's an oxygen. Question it's A texas fan, Again, 1434 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,280 Speaker 2: alex thank you for signing. Up thank, you, remember thank. 1435 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,560 Speaker 2: You it's, like how can you Give texas a and 1436 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 2: m any oxygen in the conversation of you, know things 1437 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,639 Speaker 2: you feel positive, about things you're impressed by when they 1438 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,639 Speaker 2: didn't perform that well Against miami or they didn't perform 1439 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 2: that well Against, texas We texas should be receiving all 1440 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 2: of your, oxygen all of your. Attention he doesn't even Mention. 1441 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,360 Speaker 1: Texas he, does he does Mention. Texas there you. 1442 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 2: Go but but that's that's to. Me that's the subtext 1443 01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,839 Speaker 2: of this is that, like how can can you introduce 1444 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 2: this team as being part of the conversation when they 1445 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 2: did not perform up to my expert my expectation of 1446 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 2: being worthy of being in the. 1447 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 1: CONVERSATION i, mean not all expectations and not all people 1448 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 1: are the same in. This alex could be a luminary 1449 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,400 Speaker 1: for all we know In, texas this is. True could 1450 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,640 Speaker 1: be a football luminary who knows things that we do 1451 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,759 Speaker 1: NOT i, MEAN i don't put that past. Anybody, frankly 1452 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,840 Speaker 1: it's just we're two dorks doing. This got a lot 1453 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 1: of smart people out, there many of whom write in 1454 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 1: and have written. In we did not get to all 1455 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,280 Speaker 1: of your. Questions we will do our part to get 1456 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 1: to more of. THEM i will do, this, okay on 1457 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,360 Speaker 1: our bonus, episode which we can put out later this. 1458 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,439 Speaker 1: WEEK i don't know if we'll include the basketball questions 1459 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,559 Speaker 1: that we got for you for Coach dan on. That 1460 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,559 Speaker 1: but my suggestion is just because a lot to, say 1461 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,680 Speaker 1: because we got so many great suggestions and questions from 1462 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 1: the For Baller, HOOD i think we should take that 1463 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,600 Speaker 1: bonus episode and make it available to all of Our 1464 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 1: freeman Well patreon on this coming, week This, thursday whenever 1465 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,200 Speaker 1: we do it later in the. Week because we got 1466 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 1: so many, questions we have to get through some of, 1467 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,920 Speaker 1: these and we had a bunch of people who are 1468 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 1: just free members who decide that they want to. Participate 1469 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:13,840 Speaker 1: let's make that available to. 1470 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,719 Speaker 2: Everybody can we Get Eric spolstra on this bonus episode 1471 01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,760 Speaker 2: to answer my questions about how to coach first? 1472 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,439 Speaker 1: GRADERS i, MEAN i think based on the questions that 1473 01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,680 Speaker 1: we got, here there's a lot of interest in your 1474 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 1: abilities to coach first graders and what that experience has 1475 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 1: been like for you thus. Far, truly this. 1476 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 2: Is All i'm going to. Say All i'm going to 1477 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 2: say IS i had thought about this in terms of 1478 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,920 Speaker 2: how DO i get these players to play cohesively to 1479 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,679 Speaker 2: improve their skills and. Fundamentals can you order a book 1480 01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 2: From serbia or? SOMETHING i have watched Some serbian. Drolls, 1481 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,719 Speaker 2: YES i have ordered a. BOOK i have watched a zoom. 1482 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 2: Call All i'm going to say Is i'm constantly thinking 1483 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,720 Speaker 2: about how to have these kids have fun to as they, learn, 1484 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,280 Speaker 2: skills as they, learned t work as they you, KNOW 1485 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,719 Speaker 2: i want like competitive. Fire AND i have learned after 1486 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:08,639 Speaker 2: a single practice and a single game that it is 1487 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:13,200 Speaker 2: not terribly different from Everything i've read that the biggest 1488 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 2: challenge in coaching AN nba, team the highest level OF 1489 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 2: nba teams is managing. Personalities and it is one hundred 1490 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 2: percent identical to coaching six and seven year olds on the. 1491 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,720 Speaker 2: Basketball it's just managing, personalities that's all into. Everything that's 1492 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 2: maybe that's what life is in, general but it is 1493 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 2: no different on the, court even at eight foot. Hoops 1494 01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,479 Speaker 2: squeezed into a full, court but it's taking place on 1495 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 2: a half court of a full size, court just managing. 1496 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,280 Speaker 2: PERSONALITIES i have a lot more to say on. 1497 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 1: It we will get to it on The Bonus. Show 1498 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,240 Speaker 1: we will get to it on The Bonus. Show thank 1499 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,519 Speaker 1: you to everybody who chimed in with a. Question we 1500 01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,040 Speaker 1: of course have much more to discuss here in the 1501 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,760 Speaker 1: month Of january on our next episode will be previewing 1502 01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,120 Speaker 1: The National championship, game which takes place On. Monday of, 1503 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,840 Speaker 1: course after The National, championship will do what we've been. 1504 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,479 Speaker 1: Doing we will hop On we'll do a YouTube live 1505 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,560 Speaker 1: recap all the, action give you our real time reactions 1506 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,320 Speaker 1: to everything that went down Between indiana And, miami and 1507 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:15,360 Speaker 1: then we are officially in the off. SEASON dan off 1508 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,720 Speaker 1: season around here means two episodes per, week usually On 1509 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 1: tuesdays And. Thursdays sometimes we change it up a little 1510 01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,320 Speaker 1: bit depending on what's going on in the, world but 1511 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 1: at that point in, time that's when we start talking 1512 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 1: about some bigger picture. 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