1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: and everybody. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that. Right, Hey, y'all, 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: what's up. 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: It's Laura l Rosa and this is the latest with 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Laura de Rosa. This is your DELI dig on all 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: things pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the conversations 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: that shake the room. 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 2: So today I want. 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: To get into a very serious conversation surrounding the Nick 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Reiner alleged killing of his parents, Rob Reiner and Michelle Reiner. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: Rob Reiner for those who may not know, but I've 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: been seeing his name so much in the news because 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: he was killed by his son, Nick Ner, him and 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: his wife Michelle in their home not too long ago 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: in La They were found with reported slits to their throat, 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: literally found in their home by their daughter. 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: But Rob Reiner was known for all in the family. 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: He also directed I films like When Harry Met Sally, 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: The Princess Bride, A few good men. Uh, really big 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: in the political space as far as just commentate, commentating 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: on various things and activism and you know, some of 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: the things that he had pushed for were gun control, 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: child welfare. As a director the spinal tap as well 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: the American President. There is just a lot that he 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: has accomplished. So this story has been, you know, one 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: of the biggest stories in Hollywood over. 28 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 2: The last few weeks following his death. 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Now, just to recap a bit, because I know we 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: have not talked about it much here on the podcast. 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle Reiner were found in 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: their home by their one of their daughters after an 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: alleged argument of some kind. In the beginning of this 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, news breaking, it was said that they had 35 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: had an argument possibly same day, allegedly with their son, 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Nick Reiner. But then there was more news that can 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: came out that said that potentially that argument happened the 38 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: night prior at Conan O'Brien Christmas party, where they had 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: got into an argument with their son, Nick Reiner, and 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: they had left the party, and you know, there was 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: like a disruption or another disruptance caused by Nick not 42 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: even related to his parents at that party. And there's 43 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: been a lot of conversation around the fact that it 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: was known that Nick Reiner suffered from different types of 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 1: substance abuse, drug abuse and you know, mental health issues, 46 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: and you know there has just been a very up 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: and down relationship between him and his parents because of 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, those things He's Nick himself has talked about 49 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: being homeless at some points, and you know, various rehabs, 50 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: just just a bunch of different things throughout life. So 51 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: Nick Reiner was arrested and you know, he was charged 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 1: for the murders of his parents, and there has now 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: become a conversation about what his legal strategy will be. 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: So wanting to come here today, you know, as things 55 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: because I mean this story, I feel like every hour 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: there is a new update, there's a new exclusive report 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: sourced on you know, law enforcement, or sourced on family 58 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: and friends of the family or whoever that various media 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: outlets are reporting. So things are changing and moving and 60 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: the conversation is happening in so many different places literally 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: by the moment. But I thought that, you know, a 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: conversation right now because Nick Rener did appear in court 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: for the first time over the last week. He did 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: not inter plea whatsoever at his arraignment, and he does 65 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: have an attorney. 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: His attorney is a powerhouse attorney. 67 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Alan Jackson is the attorney who got Karen Reid off 68 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: of the homicide case. 69 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: You guys may remember that case because. 70 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: It also was a big, you know case that also 71 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: made headlines when she was Alisha had been driving under 72 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: the influence, backed up and hit a man who was 73 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: her boyfriend at the time that was also a cop. 74 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: And she was found not guilty on the serious charges, 75 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: but guilty on the lesser charges. And Alan Jackson was 76 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: actually the person that headed up her defense team, so 77 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's a powerhouse attorney. All these things are happening, 78 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: and Nick Reiner doesn't show up the court the first 79 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: day to inter a plea, but shows up to court 80 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: the second day. They had him in a jacket of 81 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: sorts to kind of, I guess, subdue him a bit. 82 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: Per reports, Nick Reiner has been on a suicide watch. 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: I've yet to be able to confirm whether this in 84 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 1: the beginning was just protocol or if this was something 85 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 1: that was done because of you know, something that he said, 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: or like, you know, medical testing or whatever. 87 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: But we do know that he underwent medical and mental evaluations. 88 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: His attorney, Alan Jackson let us know outside of the 89 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: courthouse after that first day that Nick actually made it 90 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: to court, not the first day he was supposed to 91 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: be there. But so the second day of court, and 92 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: the first day nick Reiner actually made it to court, 93 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: his attorney had this to say about him not appearing 94 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: after missing medical testing. And I know we've talked about 95 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: this on a prior episode, but let's say it again now. 96 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: Most recent conversation was an exclusive report via TMZ. And 97 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: I found this report interesting because I know that you 98 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: know Harvey Harvey Levin, and you know a lot of 99 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: the people that work with him are attorneys, so they're 100 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: looking at this from a legal aspect, and at this point, 101 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the only way you can 102 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: look at it, because right now we're trying to figure 103 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: out what happens next, and whatever happens next definitely will 104 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: be something legal. The report says that nick Reiner had 105 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: reportedly been diagnosed with schizophrenia and his meds made him 106 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: dangerous to the point where he was basically out of 107 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: his mind or out of his head. Is with the 108 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: report alleges and TMZ alleges that they spoke to two 109 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: different sources who told them that in the weeks leading 110 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: up to the day he murdered his parents, Rob and 111 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Michelle Reiner, nick Reiner was taking various medicines like a 112 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: medicine cocktail of some sort. The report continues to allege 113 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: that these medicines actually made him erotic and dangerous. They 114 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: then continue to go on and said that, according to 115 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: the two sources, at the same time, Nick Reiner was 116 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: under the care of psychiatrists for his mental illness, but 117 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: the month that the murders happened, these doctors were like 118 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: trying to get his cocktail, his medical you know, his 119 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: medicines that he was taking correct. They were trying to 120 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: get it to a point where he wouldn't be as 121 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: erratic in behavior. 122 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: But it just wasn't working. 123 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not unnormal to hear, because a lot 124 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: of things with doctors, especially when it comes to Western 125 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 1: like when it comes to medicine, it's trial and error. 126 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: Like they give you things, they see how it works 127 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: with your body, they see how effective it is, and 128 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: then they either up dusages or they changed medicines altogether 129 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: until they get the cocktail correct. So this report also 130 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: talks about, you know, Nick Reiner going to a rehab facility. 131 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: They said that this rehab facility was like in the 132 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: upwards of like seventy thousand dollars a month, and that 133 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: this is a place that a lot of rich and 134 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: powerful parents send their kids to. Who have you know, 135 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: issues that fit what the rehab center focuses on. Now, 136 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: while all of this is happening, this report also alleges 137 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: that Nick Reiner was still abusing substances, whatever those substances were, 138 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: that he was still abusing substances allegedly, right, And because 139 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: of this, the conversation now is will Nick Reiner plead 140 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: not guilty by reason of a sanity? I think on 141 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: its face when you just hear how gruesome the murders 142 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: seem to have been. And we don't know all of 143 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: the full details, right, but to be a child, not 144 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: a child, he's a grown man. But to be you know, 145 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: to kill your parents, there has to be something that 146 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: like isn't connecting, Like you're not all the way there, 147 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: Like there's no way that you can argue that a 148 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: person that is able to commit I mean, I feel 149 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: like murder in general, there's a sense of especially if 150 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: it's if the malice is there, like if there's an 151 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: intent or premeditation or you know, even in the moment. 152 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes I think that there is definitely an argument around 153 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: like what your mental does in that thought process, but 154 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: for it to be a parents like your parents, Like 155 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: what the hell? So right now the conversation, you know, 156 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: based on these reports that are being had or that 157 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: is being had, is will Nick Reiner plead not guilty 158 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: by reason of insanity? 159 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: Now? 160 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: This defense is basically defense that requires proof that Nick 161 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: Reiner didn't understand the nature and the quality of his actions. 162 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: So I did say, you know, just research on what 163 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: the burden of proof for a defense like this means. 164 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: And a burden of proof is basically like what is 165 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: my responsibility, Like what do I have to do? Like 166 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: what is needed for me to convince the judge, the 167 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: jury whoever, that what I'm saying, like what I'm pleading 168 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: or what I'm alleging is the reason why is exactly 169 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: what they'll believe by the end of my pleading. So 170 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: what I found is and I was looking up basically 171 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: like what is the hardest part of proving something like this? 172 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: It says the hardest part of proving not guilty by 173 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: any reason of proven not guilty by reason of insanity 174 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: is meeting the strict legal standard by demonstrating with clear 175 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: and convincing evidence that a severe mental disease at the 176 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: exact moment of the crime prevented the defendant from understanding 177 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: their actions were wrong, or conforming their conduct to the law, 178 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: or basically like anything that made sense, or you knowing 179 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: what you were not supposed to do. You have to 180 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: be able to prove that in that very moment your 181 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: mental illness or the substances that cause that mental illness 182 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: or whatever it is that you're going to you know, 183 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: put together in this conversation of like, here's why I 184 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: didn't understand that in that very moment it was affecting you. 185 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: Some of the. 186 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: Challenges that you know, other defendants face when they go 187 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: up against this in court is burdening a proof. 188 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: So again, it's just proving you know at that time. 189 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: I think, you know, if if you're a person like 190 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, Nick Reiner, if this report is true, and 191 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: you have medical records showing that you have you know, 192 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: documents and notes from the psychiatrist you've been working with, 193 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: you have all the information about the medicines and with 194 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: those side effects and causes or you know, negative causes 195 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: or reactions to those medicines, can do just basic study 196 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: on schizophrenia and I remember, you know, when we were 197 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: in court. 198 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: For the Diddy trial. 199 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: One of the key witnesses in that trial was an 200 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: expert witness who focused on mental health and cognitive thinking 201 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: and like kind of like a therapist ish kind of, 202 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: but she was more so like a person who studied 203 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: the behaviors of abusers and studied the behaviors of victims, right, 204 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: And the reason why she was so important as a witness, 205 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: and she didn't see anything herself. It's not like she 206 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: was Ditty's psychi, or she was Ditty's therapist, or she 207 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: was providing therapy to any of the victims. She literally 208 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: had never seen, heard, or met any of the people involved. 209 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: But the reason why she was so important in the 210 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: defense Dinny's team was trying to make it where what 211 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: she said on that stand couldn't be heard by the 212 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: jury is because she was able to really explain to 213 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: you the mind behind a lot of this stuff, behind 214 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: why a woman will return back to an abuser, you know, 215 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: why a woman would cover up and claim love and 216 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: like all the different things that your mind can't really 217 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: like fathom because you're in a different mental space. She 218 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: was able to put it in very like one plus 219 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: one equals to terms, but also had the medicine in 220 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: the research to back it up. And it seems to me, 221 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, if these reports are correct, if I'm an attorney, 222 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: you almost have like you have everything you need to 223 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 1: be able to lay this out. Now, there were a 224 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: few things that struck me, you know, just in this 225 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: past week from following the Rhiner case, and when I 226 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: saw these things, I'm like, oh, he is not going 227 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: to plead guilty because number one, when Nick Reiner finally 228 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: made it to court, he didn't take a plea deal. 229 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: It's very clear that police are one hundred percent confident 230 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: that they have you know, even again, everything is alleged. 231 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: He is innocent until proven guilty. But if I'm reading 232 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: this case and I'm reading the through line, there is 233 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: nothing here that doesn't show me that the government is 234 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: not sure that they have the person they believe killed. 235 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: Rob Reiner and Michelle Reiner, and they believe that it 236 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: is Nick Reiner. 237 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: Right, So with evidence being that strong, for your attorney 238 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: to then come into court and be very confident about, hey, 239 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: we need more time. We need this to be continued 240 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: for about another month or so. We'll get back to you, 241 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: let's have a conversation and you not take a plea deal. 242 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: Off rip and just make sure you're not about to 243 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: spend the rest of your life in behind bars, which 244 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: I don't see how that would even be possible. But basically, 245 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: just try and fight for whatever rest of your life 246 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: you think you about to have. After something like this, 247 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I don't think he's going to 248 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: plead guilty in this report. Based on this report, you know, 249 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: and everything that the sources are telling TMZ is lining 250 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: up that way. 251 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: Not only did Nick Rener not. 252 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: Take a plea deal his first day in court, but 253 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: his attorney axd for more time, right, and. 254 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: They waive any right to anything speedy. 255 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm sitting back and I'm like, Okay, 256 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: that means his attorney wants to take a lot of 257 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: time and look at like his medical records, his mental 258 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: health battles and records, family battles, his life and daily 259 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: battles that you know, everything that could have compiled to 260 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: cause him to basically snap because he's trying to figure 261 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: out what the best defense is. Like basically, it's like, 262 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: you know your back is up against the defense, right, 263 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: you know that y'all might not make it out unscathed 264 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: at all, because, again, like I said, the evidence is here. 265 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: There's reports right now that they're in the hotel room 266 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: that Nick Reiner checked into, which he's on video right 267 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: checking into. And mind you, when he checked in there. 268 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: Was no blood on him. 269 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: But there's reports of blood found in a hotel. You 270 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: have his sibling who shows up at the parents' house, 271 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: who finds the parents dead, who let police know this 272 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: is who I think did it, and he's very dangerous. Right, 273 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: you have everything there, But it seems to me like 274 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: his attorney is just taking the time that he needs 275 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: to gather enough to make it where when the ball drops, 276 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: because it will in this case, I think it's very straightforward. 277 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: We were about to see happen. He's facing, you know, 278 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: life in prison or the death penalty. And let me 279 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: not say it is clear. When I say that it's clear, 280 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: I just mean we know he's going to deal like 281 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: a period, right, and he's gonna do some time. Right, 282 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna make a decision on the death penalty or 283 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: not a little bit later. But and the reason why 284 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: that they're even able to consider the death penalty is 285 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: because there's like special conditions in the prosecutor in a 286 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: press conference he talked about the special conditions and he 287 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: talked about how it basically is because there were two 288 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: murders that were committed and the weapon that was used, 289 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: like the type of weapon that was used. So basically 290 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: these conditions are things that like kind of up the crime. 291 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: It makes it where heinous, so they're able to consider 292 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: the ultimate penalty, but they haven't considered that yet. But 293 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: basically his attorneys it's taking more time to figure out, Okay, 294 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: this is coming, so when it hits, how can we 295 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: soften the blow. 296 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: Now? 297 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: I do think that, you know, in arguing something like this, 298 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: like this is going to be so difficult for his family, 299 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: Like God blessed his family, and I know that, like 300 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with mental health issues, this is not 301 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: something that's new. It seems like, you know, there have 302 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: been some you know, things that their family has dealt 303 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: with around this for some time, but it's very different 304 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: to have to publicly watch this all play out and 305 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: watch your sibling who is you know, there's been reports 306 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: that he's like in a daze at this point. You know, 307 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: I've read reports across outlets recently that basically say he 308 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: hasn't even fully processed what he did at this point 309 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: because of just his mental state. Right, So it's like, 310 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: if I'm the sibling, my mom my dad are no 311 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: longer here, I also now no longer have my brother 312 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: in all of the and he's literally not even connecting 313 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: what actually happened. So I don't It's like, how do 314 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: you ever get comfort in a situation like this? Like, 315 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't think you ever. I've never lost someone as 316 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: close to me from something as heinous as this. But 317 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: you know, I've heard stories of people who feel like, okay, 318 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: but at least we know the person responsible for this 319 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: is behind bars. But it got to be completely different 320 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: when the person responsible is your brother, who also per 321 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: reports doesn't even understand fully what he just did. I 322 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: want to hear from you guys, you know, predictions on 323 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: what you think may happen and how this may play out, 324 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, over the next few weeks, because they ask 325 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: for things to be continued until January. Over the next 326 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: few weeks, we'll hear a lot more about what legal 327 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: strategy may be. You know what Nick Reiner's past has 328 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: been like, and we've been seeing and hearing so much 329 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: about that what his past has been, like, I mean, 330 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: at this point, we also I'm sure we'll probably hear 331 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: I don't know how private the family plans to keep this. 332 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: I know they made a statement and just kind of 333 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: spoke out about how difficult things are for them right now. 334 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: But you know, the funerals. 335 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: Of Rob and Michelle Reiner, who Hollywood loved, like, I 336 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: saw so many people speaking out on behalf of like 337 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: Rob Riiner, how great of a person he was. I 338 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: saw Tech Campbell say that she gave him his start, 339 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: not that they were, like, you know, the closest of people, 340 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: but she's one of the people that he's one of 341 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: the people that put her into the comedy lane. And 342 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 1: then you have you know, I don't know, it just 343 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: it seems like the world kind of took a pall 344 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: to just talk about how great of a man Rob 345 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: Reiner was when all of this happened. But at the 346 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: same time, I also feel like, because this has become 347 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: the story, people have dug so deep into like everything personal. 348 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: So I don't even know how keeping a funeral private, 349 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: and it's such as messed up because it's such a 350 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: horrible gruesome situation. But it's such a highly publicized news 351 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: story too, so I'm sure we'll probably hear some more 352 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: about that as well. But you guys, you know, just 353 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: let me think. Let me know what you are thinking 354 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: around this. Is it even fair? Like if Nick Reiner 355 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: is found guilty for the murders of his parents, is 356 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: it even fair for him to be able to plead 357 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: not guilty because of insanity? Because you know, in doing that, 358 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do is make it where a 359 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: lot of the harshness of the penalty is taken off 360 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: to the table. 361 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: Do y'all think that's fair? I want to hear from y'all. 362 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, there's always a lot 363 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: to talk about. I'm mona Rosa. Y'all know we will 364 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: get into it here every single time, my low ride. 365 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys for joining me to talk about it, 366 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: because y'all could be anywhere with anybody, which I choose 367 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: to be right here. 368 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm lorda Rosa. I will catch you guys in my 369 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: next episode.