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Speaker 2: I'm doing good? And you know the Cardinals are what

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Speaker 2: So I don't know why the Cardinals have a home

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Speaker 1: They do. I maybe they can figure out a way

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Speaker 1: good baseball. Just gotta win series and it was good

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Speaker 2: Well that's right, and that's I'm all about that. Just

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Speaker 2: win series. You know, we all get greedy if we're

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Speaker 2: I like that they won this series. I didn't like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's interesting to see where these Cardinals are at.

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Speaker 1: And I had a stat today. They played twenty eight games.

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Speaker 2: they're bad on the road. I don't know that they're

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Speaker 4: That's a Harry Joan and you can smell it too.

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Speaker 1: don't know how much longer he'll be a Cardinal. I

432
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Speaker 1: think a lot of that depends on where the team

433
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Speaker 1: is at come July. But we can't predict that. It's

434
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Speaker 1: only April. So for now, Cardinals fans enjoy him while

435
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Speaker 1: you have him. You could have him for another season.

436
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Speaker 1: You could have him for a couple months, you could

437
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,479
Speaker 1: have him for the duration of his contract. We don't know.

438
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Speaker 1: But right now it's nice to see a healthy and

439
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 1: happy Nolan Arnado playing third base for the Saint Louis Cardinals.

440
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Speaker 2: And I think, real quick, I think the fans did

441
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Speaker 2: a lot to foster this great feeling that Arnatto has

442
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Speaker 2: just the way the reception he got on the Hope

443
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Speaker 2: of the opening day of March twenty seventh of Bush

444
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Speaker 2: Stadium was really special and he was clearly moved by it.

445
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Speaker 2: And I think that just set him. He was already

446
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Speaker 2: he was already in a good place emotionally and in

447
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Speaker 2: terms of his happiness, he was in a really good place.

448
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Speaker 2: But that just made it even better. And I think,

449
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if he had got some

450
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Speaker 2: kind of mixed reaction on opening day, there would have

451
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 2: been first of all, there's no reason to do that.

452
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Speaker 2: But if he had had gotten a mixed reaction or

453
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Speaker 2: kind of a flat reaction, Listen, I'm not saying I

454
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 2: think he would have gone in the tank, not at all.

455
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 2: But this helped propel him even more because his emotions

456
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Speaker 2: are a big part of what he does on the field.

457
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Speaker 2: His emotions really can influence how he plays. So the

458
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 2: fans deserve a lot of credit for getting behind him

459
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Speaker 2: and letting him know with one hunder do they love

460
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Speaker 2: them and they're glad he was still here.

461
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Speaker 1: And he spoke to that on opening day. I to

462
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Speaker 1: hit that go ahead home run or insurance run home

463
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Speaker 1: run in the eighth, he said, I was not expecting

464
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Speaker 1: that from the fans, and I just really had to

465
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Speaker 1: take it in coming off on the four trucks across

466
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Speaker 1: the warning track. You got with him. He got his

467
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Speaker 1: first ovation, He got an ovation when he was announced,

468
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Speaker 1: he got his ovation, his first a bat and then

469
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Speaker 1: he gets a curtain call and you could just see

470
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Speaker 1: that it means a lot for him to say, Okay, look,

471
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Speaker 1: I have not been my best self in the last

472
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Speaker 1: two seasons. We have disappointed a lot of the fan

473
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Speaker 1: base dating back to that twenty twenty two Wildcard series

474
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Speaker 1: and now you know he and gold Schmidt still feel

475
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Speaker 1: so responsible for that. But for him to have that

476
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Speaker 1: reaction from the fans and say, look, I really want

477
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Speaker 1: to try and be my best while I'm still here,

478
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Speaker 1: I think that said a lot for him as well.

479
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: So the track well on as always, Bernie. Speaking of

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, did you know that you can now stream

481
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Speaker 1: them on FanDuel Sports Network. Let's hear from him. Take

482
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Speaker 1: me out to my TV.

483
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Speaker 4: We a band.

484
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Speaker 1: Sports now work? Yeah?

485
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, watch me some dingers and not be eyes.

486
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Speaker 2: I'm just glad they have.

487
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Speaker 1: My local Dean, my bullets, rude real room for the Cardinal.

488
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: Bands.

489
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Speaker 3: Sports now with the Gardins games, the grab with the

490
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Speaker 3: Birds on the band stringer.

491
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Speaker 1: Still that song is still gonna hat me. Not over

492
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Speaker 1: it yet. Let's I like it?

493
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Speaker 2: You like it?

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

495
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Speaker 2: I kind of like it.

496
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of there any like.

497
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Speaker 2: What's it fits the animation and the way the way

498
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Speaker 2: they have all the cuts it does.

499
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Speaker 1: I like the grab cameo. Do you have a favorite

500
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Speaker 1: like end of where the Cardinals don't do this and

501
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: they should separate tangent? Do you have a favorite thing

502
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Speaker 1: that like a team does when they win a game

503
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Speaker 1: after game, like a favorite song. It's not popular. I

504
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Speaker 1: don't want to say it on the show.

505
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Speaker 2: I'm stumped. I'm sorry, Yeah, I'm stumped.

506
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Speaker 1: I like go Cubs go. I'm not saying I like

507
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Speaker 1: hearing it.

508
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Speaker 2: Oh boy, here they go.

509
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I like that the Cubs have something

510
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Speaker 1: that their entire stadium gets behind when they win. The

511
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Speaker 1: Dodgers do this. I love l A. The Yankees do

512
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Speaker 1: this San Francisco. So we need to get the Cardinals

513
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Speaker 1: on board.

514
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Speaker 2: You know now that you mentioned it, and gosh, I

515
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 2: spent so many nights and days in LA covering Cardinals Dodgers.

516
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought it up because now that I

517
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Speaker 2: you know, you were helping me with my memory. I

518
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Speaker 2: think I think I love LA is perfect.

519
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Speaker 1: A lot for these Cardinals Dodgers games a lot, because

520
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: the Dodgers always win. But I really like the environment

521
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Speaker 1: and the vibe that it brings to.

522
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know when they had that fundraiser

523
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Speaker 2: after the you know, just horrendous fires in LA. And

524
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Speaker 2: you know the band Goshwick band was that was it? Dawes.

525
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Speaker 2: I can't remember now, and that's that's awful that I

526
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: can't remember the name of the band. But they're an

527
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Speaker 2: LA band, you know. And they let off that that

528
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Speaker 2: fundraising show, which was a huge success. They let off

529
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Speaker 2: the the show with I Love l A their rendition

530
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Speaker 2: and it was it was like awesome, and I almost

531
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Speaker 2: I almost got a little choked up. See I do

532
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. I'm like Saint Louis fans will

533
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Speaker 2: know who I'm talking about. Of course, you know, I'm

534
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 2: kind of like Dick for me, you know, the old

535
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: Rams coach. He would just he you'd see him just

536
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, rubbing his eyes over everything.

537
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Speaker 2: I get like that. And I tell you what that was.

538
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Speaker 2: Really that's a great song. It's a great song. Maybe

539
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: for non LA people it's probably you know, more challenging

540
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Speaker 2: to like, but I mean I think it just captures

541
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Speaker 2: that whole city very well.

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Speaker 1: I agree, And that's what I think the Cardinals did

543
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Speaker 1: to get behind I mean.

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Speaker 2: Lois me different. What they got to do is get

545
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Speaker 2: like sort of a hard rock or punk version of

546
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Speaker 2: that song, which is rip it up, Meet me in

547
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Speaker 2: Saint Louis. Just go real fast, you know.

548
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Speaker 1: Okay, Look, anything is better than nothing. And right now,

549
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: the fireworks and the three cannons, which are so loud,

550
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: by the way, it's been five years and they scare

551
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: me every single time.

552
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: But something from Chuck Berry, something from.

553
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: Nelly, something something, if you're listening, figure it out.

554
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's many other local artists we could name, but

555
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Speaker 2: I digress.

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Speaker 1: I have some options. I don't think the people, the

557
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: good people at Bushading would like Sexy Red, but she

558
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Speaker 1: is local.

559
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Speaker 2: I do know who she is, believe it or not.

560
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Speaker 2: Sixty six year old man, I do out of you.

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Speaker 1: All right, Bernie, let's hear from a scouting report from

562
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Speaker 1: fan Duel Sports Network. This stat right here, I'm going,

563
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Speaker 1: I'm going off your playbook. I'm gonna get you with

564
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Speaker 1: some numbers. These stats are courtesy of Cardinals pr wizard

565
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Speaker 1: Michael Whitty. Getting defensive the Cardinals lead major League Baseball

566
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Speaker 1: coming into play on Sunday in out above average at seventeen,

567
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Speaker 1: runs prevented fourteen, and fangrafts defensive runs above average at

568
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Speaker 1: nine point four. They also ranked third and defensive run

569
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Speaker 1: saved with fifteen, and they're tied for third and fielding

570
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Speaker 1: percentage at nine to eight nine and fifth in ground

571
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Speaker 1: ball out percentage seventy seven point six. Bringing you talked

572
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Speaker 1: about the defense earlier in the show, I'm so glad

573
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: you did. This Cardinals defense is a lock down. They're

574
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Speaker 1: playing some really good baseball. There's gonna be some growing pains,

575
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Speaker 1: of course, with a little bit of the younger guys,

576
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Speaker 1: but take your pick. Across the diamond. We talked about.

577
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Speaker 1: Nolan Contreras looks great at first, Burlson's played a great

578
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Speaker 1: first base. Two the outfield. Across the board, Victor Scott

579
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Speaker 1: the second, Jordan Walker making strides, Lars Newbar also making strides.

580
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Speaker 1: I like what we're seeing defensively out of this Cardinals club.

581
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Speaker 2: No, that's right, and I love all the metrics and

582
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Speaker 2: I'm into them, you know, but there's sort of a

583
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Speaker 2: I hate to say it's an old fashioned stat but

584
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Speaker 2: it's not quite as new as some of the metrics

585
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: are very much in vogue now. But at Baseball Reference

586
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Speaker 2: is a thing called defensive efficiency, and it's a really

587
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Speaker 2: simple calculation. It's like, Okay, how many of the balls

588
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Speaker 2: put into play do you convert into outs? Right? I mean,

589
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: that's about as basic as it get. But yet it

590
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 2: tells you a lot And the Cardinals, I think this

591
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 2: was going into the Milwaukee Series. There's nothing that would

592
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Speaker 2: have changed it. They were either third or fourth in

593
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Speaker 2: defensive efficiency where they were getting this like seventy two

594
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: percent of the balls in plate they were converting an

595
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Speaker 2: ounce that's really good. So I only bring it up

596
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Speaker 2: because it fits all of the other things you talked about.

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Speaker 2: It fits right in there with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we talked about the stunning pitching staff. They're

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Speaker 1: ground ball heavy. I mean, Sadie Gray has some swing

600
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: and myths, but the rest of them pretty ground ball heavy.

601
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Speaker 1: So it's important that you have a defense that could

602
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: convert those ground ball outs. Is this an outdated method

603
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: in terms of pitching, yes, but what the Cardinals have

604
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: right now, and when you have a lockdown defense that

605
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: certainly allows things to be a lot better. I think

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Speaker 1: you know, Pedro Paul has has done a really nice

607
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: job defensively behind the plate the bats coming around. But really,

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Speaker 1: you think about the work that Stubby Clapp does with positioning,

609
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Speaker 1: and you think about the work John Jay does and

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Speaker 1: making sure that these guys are ready to go with situations,

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Speaker 1: and the extra work both people are putting in. I

612
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: was talking Ollie Marvel about the coaches and why that

613
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Speaker 1: he thinks the defense is better, and he would not

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Speaker 1: stop crediting Stebbe Clapp and John j for their work.

615
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Speaker 1: Stebby behind the scenes in terms of studying charts, all

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Speaker 1: of that, and Jay going out there. He's with the

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Speaker 1: outfielders every day. You see it with Victor, you see

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Speaker 1: it with Jordan, and you are also seeing it with Lars.

619
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Speaker 1: And it's not like Lars was not a good outfielder

620
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Speaker 1: to begin with, but he's just getting that much better.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking at when I'm evaluating the early season,

622
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Speaker 1: is our guys taking steps forward. I already think we're

623
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Speaker 1: seeing a much better version of Jordan Walker in right field.

624
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Speaker 1: Victor Scott the second and he's worth the price of

625
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: admission right now. Whether it's I know he's having a

626
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: hard time hitting left these right now. But what he's

627
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Speaker 1: doing on the field when he gets on base, the

628
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: perfect nine for nine and stolen base attempts, that kind

629
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Speaker 1: of stuff is fun to watch. So shout out to

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Speaker 1: John Jay for the work that he's putting in with

631
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Speaker 1: those outfielders. I think the defense across the board looks

632
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Speaker 1: really good.

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Speaker 2: You know. I'm glad you mentioned positioning of the fielders,

634
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Speaker 2: and I think that's really important. In twenty twenty three,

635
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: when the Cardinals were just awful, they were embarrassing defensively

636
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: as a team. Some guys were good, but they were embarrassing.

637
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: It was one of the things that drove me crazy

638
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: about them that year. Their base running was terrible. I

639
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: mean they just fundamentally they were a wreck and there

640
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: was no need for that. I used to give Ali

641
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: Marvels so much crap, and all of my writing and

642
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: sports talk to said Ali, come on, man, clean this

643
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: stuff up. And one of my friends in the business,

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you who he works for, but he's

645
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: a really good analytics guy for another team, and he said,

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Speaker 2: I saw what you said, and he said, you ought

647
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Speaker 2: to look at how they're positioning their fielders because they

648
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Speaker 2: have no idea what they're doing. And I said, what

649
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Speaker 2: do you mean. He said, well, I'm not going to

650
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: read you that. They just take my word for it.

651
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: They have no idea what they're doing when they position

652
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Speaker 2: their fielders. And sure enough, big time defensive improvement in

653
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four and that's carried through to this year.

654
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Speaker 2: And I checked with my friend. I also checked at

655
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Speaker 2: Sports Info Solutions some of their data, and the Cardinals

656
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Speaker 2: of the last two seasons have done a really good

657
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Speaker 2: job of positioning their fielders. I don't know why it

658
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 2: took them so long, but they finally realize, well, we're

659
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Speaker 2: being kind of dumb here. Maybe we ought to find

660
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Speaker 2: maybe we had to position them better. It's amazing to

661
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Speaker 2: me how many balls are hit directly to where the

662
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Speaker 2: Cardinals are in some kind of I won't I wouldn't

663
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Speaker 2: call it an over shift, but it's definite shift. And

664
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Speaker 2: it's like it's right to Mason win when he's like

665
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Speaker 2: close to second base, things like that. So they're doing

666
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Speaker 2: a really good job. But a lot of it is

667
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Speaker 2: the players, of course, But a lot of it, as

668
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Speaker 2: you said, is the teaching and the instruction to make

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Speaker 2: individual guys better, and a lot of it also has

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Speaker 2: to do with them being a lot smarter about where

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Speaker 2: they set their fielders up from better to better.

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Speaker 1: So I have an answer for you on what changed

673
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Speaker 1: with the positioning Prior to the twenty twenty three season beginning,

674
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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball ban the shift right and the Cardinals

675
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Speaker 1: were one of the best teams in baseball at positioning

676
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Speaker 1: when you're allowed to shift. I mean, that's why they

677
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Speaker 1: were such a good defensive. They had good defensive players,

678
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: of course, but where they were on the field mattered,

679
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Speaker 1: and then they had the athletic ability to make the play.

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Speaker 1: And I remember going in right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't know how to just once they the

682
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Speaker 2: shift was out well though.

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Speaker 1: And I had talking to a couple of people and

684
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Speaker 1: spring training in twenty twenty three, and I said, are

685
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Speaker 1: you concerned about the shift and how it's going to

686
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Speaker 1: impact your positioning? And I was told I was making

687
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Speaker 1: a big deal out of nothing. And I was like,

688
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Speaker 1: are you sure, because at twenty three surprised they had

689
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Speaker 1: another ground ball heavy staff and I was like, your

690
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: pitchers are on the ground a lot. You can no

691
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Speaker 1: longer shift the way that you could. And you guys

692
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Speaker 1: were really good at that and I basically was like,

693
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Speaker 1: you know, when I say this, they weren't dismissed by

694
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Speaker 1: any means. I'm just glad to have a relationship with

695
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Speaker 1: pretty much everyone in the organization where you can talk

696
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Speaker 1: shit and go back and forth. Is essentially what it was.

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Speaker 2: That's what you did do.

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Speaker 1: They were like, no, we will be fine, and then

699
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Speaker 1: half I was gas lip per usual by the Saint

700
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: Louis Cardinals halfway through the season, we were talking about

701
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Speaker 1: how the shift has impacted their ability to position players

702
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Speaker 1: and I just had to sit there and wear it

703
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Speaker 1: like I wasn't see the and like I asked about this,

704
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: but I think it was just goes into across the board.

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Speaker 1: When you are an organization that is used to doing

706
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Speaker 1: things a certain way, you don't really understand how much

707
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: that change is needed. And we've seen this with the

708
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Speaker 1: Cardinals a lot. Credit to Stubb. Klapp works his ass off.

709
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: I come and to the game every day and he's

710
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: in his little room, computers up, monitors up, and he's

711
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: making sure those guys are prepared for every single play.

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00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, positioning wasn't good in twenty three, much better

713
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Speaker 1: in twenty four and really paying dividends in twenty five.

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Speaker 2: And if I could add to that, the other thing is,

715
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Speaker 2: you know, one of the things about John mose lex

716
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: regime towards the end in the previous seasons that really, really,

717
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: really really was unfortunate is that their analytics department, which

718
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: used to be one of the largest of the majors,

719
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Speaker 2: became one of the smallest and the majors and very underfunded.

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Speaker 2: And my point being, there's a lot of fans, including

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Speaker 2: some I'm sure watching us, who hate when you mentioned analytics.

722
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Speaker 2: It's like the dirtiest most seen word in their their

723
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Speaker 2: baseball lexicon. They you know, they want to like perform

724
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Speaker 2: an exorcism on anybody who's who mentions or praises analytics.

725
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Speaker 2: And I never understood that because, for example, the smart

726
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 2: defensive positioning that we're seeing is analytics based. You know,

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Speaker 2: analytics are not your enemy, my friends, They're not the

728
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Speaker 2: Cardinal's enemy. If the Cardinals tap into the right information

729
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: and put it to use, analytics are their friends, exactly.

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Speaker 2: But in the past we've seen them be really really

731
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Speaker 2: stupid about how they put now I'm serious about how

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Speaker 2: they implement analytics. So that leads fans to say, see

733
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Speaker 2: this analytics stuff's a bunch of garbage, you know, it's not.

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Speaker 2: It depends on who's using the information, if they understand it,

735
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Speaker 2: and then are they implementing it wisely. If they are,

736
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Speaker 2: you have an advantage.

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Speaker 1: And I think we're seeing that more and more. And

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Speaker 1: I caution you, my best fans. In baseball, analytics is

739
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: just another word for information, Ollie Marmo says a lot,

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Speaker 1: and I get it. Analytics can be a scary word.

741
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Speaker 1: All it means is more information. So if you, by

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Speaker 1: for details. That was one of my better transitions. I

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Speaker 1: will I was.

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Speaker 2: Gonna say man, Look at look at the look at

754
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: the segue queen right there? My goodness, what grow?

755
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: This is what happens when you prioritize development and giving

756
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: people chances to succeed in real trying to learn from

757
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Speaker 1: their mistakes. They get better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do they have an analytics department?

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00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: Actually we do. That was basically our wonderful producers telling

760
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Speaker 1: me to be better, and I agree better.

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00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: No, it's great. The whole Foul Territory, Cardinal Territory, all

762
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Speaker 2: the other team territories. What a nice network for fans

763
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Speaker 2: really is. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoy and I'm thankful to be a part

765
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Speaker 1: of it. So shout out our Foul Territory guys. Look

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Speaker 1: another week in the books. The Cardinals head on to Cincinnat.

767
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: They're actually there already. I'm not going to Cincinnati. I

768
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: just did twenty eight straight games in a row. Remind

769
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: me to never do that again. So I am off

770
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Speaker 1: this series in Cincy. We'll still have some content for

771
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Speaker 1: you here on Cardinal Territory and of course at the Athletic.

772
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Speaker 2: So what is it is it you don't like like

773
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Speaker 2: staying all night and staying up all night getting blatto

774
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: across the river? In Newport, Kentucky. Is it?

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Speaker 4: That?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

777
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: You?

778
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 2: Really? You just don't dig the Cincinnati style chili.

779
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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a Skylin chili. Yeah, yeah, I will say

782
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: that they have good ice cream. But yeah, I saw

783
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: four days in the middle of the month or the

784
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: middle of the week where they were going to be home.

785
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Speaker 1: It was an ideal time for me to take off

786
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Speaker 1: because I have not. As I like to tell Chip Carry, I,

787
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: I've done more games than you have, because he is

788
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: supposed to do all one sixty two this year, and

789
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Speaker 1: of course you lose a couple for national games. So

790
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: the Cardinals had a Fox game, so he lost one,

791
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: and I was being so insufferable in the hallway and

792
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: the clubhouse, saying I have done every game. I'm the

793
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Speaker 1: only media person who's done every single game except for

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Speaker 1: John Reney. So John Riddy and I holding it down.

795
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: But that streak ends for me on Monday, and I'll

796
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Speaker 1: be back with the team this weekend.

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Speaker 2: And then are you going to be making that trip

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Speaker 2: to DC, Philly and Kansas City after the homestand that I'm.

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Speaker 1: Acuer pane, so I'm doing the whole three city road trips.

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Speaker 2: I actually think those are three good cities so that

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Speaker 2: you go to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love DC because I like the history,

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Speaker 1: I like walking around. We do howk girl walks, the

804
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: broadcasters and I So we'll probably walk around the Washington Mall.

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Speaker 1: I've never done Philly. Philly my last National League city.

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00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: A city always a good time. I've never gone to

807
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: Kansas City and had a bad time. Even when I

808
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: got food poisoning. How much fun that I had before

809
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: that made up for the fact that I got.

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Speaker 2: No, that's a good road trip. That really is. That's

811
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Speaker 2: a good road trip for scribes too. So yeah, no doubt,

812
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Trip all around Bernie. Before we go, I know that

814
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Speaker 1: you have been working on some thing. Some sad news

815
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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. Walt Jackety died at the age of

816
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Speaker 1: seventy four over the weekend and architect of the team. Yeah,

817
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: just so influential in so many ways for the game

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Speaker 1: of baseball.

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Speaker 2: Just a couple of things real quick, and I give you,

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Speaker 2: I really thank you for giving me a chance to

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Speaker 2: promote this. I'm proud of who I work for now,

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Speaker 2: which is sportshobestl dot com. You know, as soon as

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Speaker 2: the word came out about Walts passing Dave Green, my

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00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: friend and my boss. He got on the text messages

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Speaker 2: and started saying, Hey, we're going to do a live

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Speaker 2: stream in reaction to this. No one else is going

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Speaker 2: to do this. We're going to do it because we

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Speaker 2: should do it. And I hosted it and Mike Claiborne

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Speaker 2: was my guest for about a half an hour, and

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Speaker 2: then I continued for another twenty minutes with some of

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Speaker 2: my personal thoughts on Walt. I'm probably not going to

832
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Speaker 2: do a separate video on that, but people can go.

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Speaker 2: They can find it really easily if you're interested, you know,

834
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Speaker 2: by going to sports hub stl dot com and then

835
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Speaker 2: the other thing. I've been working all day and by

836
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Speaker 2: the way, I'm not looking for any ATA boys, but

837
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Speaker 2: I've been working all day on a basically what amounts

838
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: to a retrospective tribute to Walt Jackety because I followed

839
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Speaker 2: him so closely the whole time he was here. I

840
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: knew all the ins and outs. I have some stories.

841
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: So this thing's massive. And I'm warning people because my

842
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: whole thing, as I told you before, we went on,

843
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: if I'm going to if I'm going to pay tribute

844
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Speaker 2: to Walt Jacketty's impact on this franchise. I ain't holding back.

845
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Speaker 2: I'm just going to write and write and write and

846
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: write and write, and I do break it into categories,

847
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: but I'm just about finished with that. I'll probably finish

848
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: it up tomorrow morning. But I'm I'm proud of it.

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Speaker 2: Not because I'm proud, like look at me, but I'm

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Speaker 2: proud of it because any anything that honors Walt Jockety,

851
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Speaker 2: whoever does it, should be proud just just for the

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Speaker 2: act of of honoring him. And can I say one

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00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: more thing? You know, I'm on that that Cardinals uh

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00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: Red Ribbon Committee, and you're like, we learned on the

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Speaker 2: committee and we're basically it's it's it's one confidential and

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Speaker 2: we all know that those are the ground rules. We

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Speaker 2: can't really discuss anything outside that room. That's just and

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Speaker 2: I honor that, well, you have to honor that, or

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Speaker 2: if you don't want to honor it, then you should

860
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Speaker 2: be on the committee. But we were told, you know,

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Speaker 2: we were told that that day in January after the

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Speaker 2: winter warm up, that the de Wits were going to

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Speaker 2: put Walt Jockety into the Cardinals Hall of Fame. And

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00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: you know again, we're all we all can't say a

865
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: word about it, and I understand, but but Tony LaRusso

866
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: also told us that day, and I don't I don't

867
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: mind share in this, and Tony wouldn't mind. He told

868
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: us that day that Walt was in bad shape, and

869
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: I went, oh, my goodness, and you know, it sounded

870
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: really dire, and as it turned out, it was dire.

871
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: So it's one of those things. I mean, I was

872
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 2: really saddened by his loss because I love covering Walt

873
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: Jackety and the teams he built. But also I was

874
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 2: frustrated because he wasn't in the Cardinals Hall of Fame,

875
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 2: and I thought it was a tremendous oversight. But build

876
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: a wit and build a Witt that they're they realized

877
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: that they and they were going to do something about it.

878
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: They didn't know how ill Walt Jockety was. They didn't

879
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: even though Build de Witt Junior and Walt Jackety had

880
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 2: definitely repaired their relationship. They were on good terms because

881
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: Walt had a health scare a couple of years ago

882
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: and he came out of it, so they they didn't

883
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: really know. They didn't have the play by play what

884
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: was going wrong with him. So I was so happy

885
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: to hear this would be the year, because I've been

886
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: lobbying for it hard. And but then then your heart

887
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: broken to realize that you know, he won't be able to,

888
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: you know, stand there and get the red jacket and

889
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: have everyone just wash over him with praise and thanks

890
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: and gratitude and all those former players coming back. And

891
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: our mutual friend Derek Gould, you know, had a line

892
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: in something he wrote today where he said, you know,

893
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: the Cardinals did call Walt. I assume it was the

894
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: Duits before when he was in the hospital earlier this year,

895
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: and they let him know that he was going to

896
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: be in and so yeah, and Tony Lusa told me

897
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 2: that Walt was really, really, really happy and it was

898
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: great for his morale. And Walt was so fired up

899
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: to get the news. He's laying in a hospital. He's

900
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 2: in a hospital or a special care center for about

901
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: a year a year, and that motivated him so much

902
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: that that dear person sat in his hotel not hotel,

903
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 2: pardon me, hospital bed and started to write his acceptance speech.

904
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 2: I mean, that's enough to make you cry too, But listen,

905
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: the Cardinals will do what up right on September sixth.

906
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 2: I know Walt's family will be there. You know, Tony

907
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: Larusa will be there. I don't know who will speak

908
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: on Walt's calf. I suspect it'll be Tony Larusa. But

909
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm really really glad that he's going to be in.

910
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: I'm really really happy it was overdue. But listen, I'm

911
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: also not gonna I'm not going to rip the duits

912
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: for taking a little longer than they should. I'm just

913
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: not going to do it because at time like this,

914
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 2: that's kind of cheap shot stuff. I'm just not going

915
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: to do it. You know, his death, you know sadness

916
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: them as well. And you know, these Hall of Fames,

917
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's on the team level or

918
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: the national level. These Hall of Fames always have things

919
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: that should have been done and they're not. Or this

920
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: guy should have been voted in, he's not. This guy

921
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: had to wait. It's just the wrong time to like

922
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: just sort of take gratuitous shots at the Cardinals as

923
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: a you know, as an ownership management group. He knew

924
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: he's going to be honored. He knew he was going

925
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: to be honored, and it made him really happy and

926
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: not down corny, but and he had happiness that a

927
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: dying man can cling on to is a positive thing.

928
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: So thanks for letting me say all that stuff.

929
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad you did, Bernie. There was no one

930
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: I think you could do it just right if they're

931
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: the best, So non things you can say about mister jockety.

932
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: And I know a very sad day for Cardinal Nation

933
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: and for baseball over the weekend. So very glad that

934
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: he's getting the recognition he deserves by all means the

935
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: definition of a Cardinal's Hall of Famer. We will be

936
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: back with you at some point next week. Two more

937
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: episodes to go. I can't but this is our fortieth episode.

938
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 1: That's crazy. We just keep getting better with age, Bernie.

939
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: But I gotta figure out something fun for our fiftieth,

940
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: not anniversary, our fiftieth episode. Some ideas, and I have

941
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: some really fun player interviews in the works as well

942
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: that we'll get out over the next couple of weeks

943
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: or so. You guys have been very, very great with

944
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: your commentary or feedback from the Lars and Pedro episode,

945
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: the Miles episode, and it's clear you like the player interviews,

946
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: so we'll get you more until then, though, you know

947
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: where to find us. I'm on the athletic Bernie's everywhere.

948
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: If you want information, you know where to get it.

949
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: Let's see Bernie. Tomorrow's Monday. So you have Gas House

950
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: Gang as well?

951
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: You got Gas House Gang, Well, no, guess I got

952
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: the Redbird Rush Hour tomorrow and then I have But

953
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: I have Gas House Gang in one form or another

954
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: five days a week, and I do a lot of

955
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 2: video and columns for Sports Hub, SDL and what else.

956
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this thing called the Cardinal Territory.

957
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, if you In case you didn't know,

958
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: you can also listen to Bernie every Tuesday at noon

959
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: on Camo X with Ollie Marmel. It's some really great

960
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: just talking ball stuff. I really enjoyed. It's must listen

961
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: TV or radio for me anyway. So hopefully you guys

962
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: feel the same way about Cardinal Territory. Kind of a

963
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: long one for you this week, and hopefully you don't

964
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 1: mind a good series win for your ball club. Let's

965
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: see if they can do the same in Cincinnati for Bernie.

966
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm Katie. We thanks. It's always for watching

967
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: Time.