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Speaker 1: Deb are you recording?

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Speaker 2: For Fox's sake? Just stop talking about your willies? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I even talked about my penis yet, deb Wu Tang forever,

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Speaker 2: Wu Tang forever. Yeah, all right, a given.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to start the podcast?

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Speaker 2: We haven't started yet.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is it's probably started. Daniel always decides when

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Speaker 1: he starts putting on the show. But I think this

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Speaker 1: is all good. Content is great, so too.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 1: You know? What I realized is that you've got a

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Speaker 1: big birthday coming up. I've been thinking I had. I

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Speaker 1: just had a fucking genius idea what to get you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm very excited about it.

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Speaker 2: Does it have something to do with that motion animation?

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Speaker 2: Let's say, a motion control rig?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you want?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying it could be.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'd use that.

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Speaker 2: You don't think I would use a motion control rig?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Don't your light in magic? I

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Speaker 2: know you guys are my friends. There's a mini motion

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Speaker 2: control rig that you that everybody has except for me.

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Speaker 1: What is it called?

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Speaker 2: It's the mini rig?

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Speaker 1: Would you really set that up and use it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure, Like all of the stuff that I do.

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Speaker 1: If I spend some fortunate amount of money on this

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Speaker 1: mini rig, and I come over your house and it's

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Speaker 1: in fucking cardboard boxes, and you're like, bro, come on outside,

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Speaker 1: I'm lighting a doobie. I'm gonna be so upset.

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Speaker 2: You would never have to worry about that with me.

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Speaker 2: This shit's so expensive. Look, this ship is so expensivebout.

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Speaker 1: How are you talking about? Like twenty grand more?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Like that?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 1: What's I want to look it up? Yeah, look it up, Daniel.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the Many Many rigs. It's called Motion Control

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Speaker 1: Mini rig for Donald. Anyway, Daniel's figuring out how much

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Speaker 1: this rig costs. Because I love you and you are

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Speaker 1: turning fifty. I didn't really have twenty grand in my

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Speaker 1: budget for your birthday, but I do love you.

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Speaker 2: Well, you got Crystal horse.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get Oh that's funny, I got that conversation.

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Speaker 1: We did get the horse. We did get her. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's from our joint account. By the way, I sent

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Speaker 1: her a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars horse.

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Speaker 2: Then, yeah, I'm going to need some of that back

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Speaker 2: for this motion control rig.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Daniel's going to figure out how much

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Speaker 1: it costs. I probably won't spend twenty grand on you,

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Speaker 1: even though I love you so much. But what are

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Speaker 1: you doing doing? What are the plans?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 1: Joell Daniel Donald has a fiftieth birthday coming up?

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Speaker 2: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 1: Fifty?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What's the dream?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 2: I don't really have a dream for my fiftieth. I

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Speaker 2: thought the dream was a big ass party. I think

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Speaker 2: my parents are coming into town, which is really cool

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Speaker 2: and that'll be fun. But I don't really have a

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Speaker 2: dream for my fiftieth.

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Speaker 1: Why did you turn melancholic over?

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Speaker 2: But you got to make a dream.

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Speaker 6: We got to get a whiteboard, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You had a whiteboard. This shit. We got to create something.

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Speaker 6: I don't like this attitude.

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Speaker 1: I don't like the attitude you like your shoulders slumped,

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Speaker 1: you got body?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't got said. I don't got wifi's right now,

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Speaker 2: but I definitely am. I don't know, man, I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm looking forward to turning fifty. I don't know

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Speaker 2: know how. Uh, you know, anything's up for like after

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Speaker 2: Christa's party, there's no party that can be thrown now.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't need to go like that. Why

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Speaker 1: don't you do You couldn't. You couldn't make my party,

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Speaker 1: But why don't you do something small like I did?

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Speaker 1: I had twenty five people a meal at a restaurant.

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Speaker 1: You got, you get a private room? Like, why not

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Speaker 2: It's so not up to me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Casey's planning it. You're allowed to weigh in

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Speaker 1: on your fiftieth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you have a weird attitude about it.

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Speaker 1: It's like I like to.

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Speaker 2: Work on my I like to work on my birthday.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't like that. That's my goal

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Speaker 2: is working on my birthday always. My birthday is on

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Speaker 1: Okay, well that's not gonna happen. Is the only song

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Speaker 1: need to plan something? Or is Casey planning something?

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Speaker 2: No, it's the onus. Isn't on anyone to plan anything?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm your bestie and you got sad body when

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Speaker 1: you talk about your fiftieth, so I need to step up.

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Speaker 2: Well you don't need to step up. I yeah, you guys,

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Speaker 2: get on the phone. I don't think there's anything. I

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Speaker 2: don't think anything's happening.

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Speaker 1: That's not acceptable. But she's a really good wife. I

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Speaker 1: bet she might be cooking something up.

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Speaker 2: No, I know my family's coming in. She got, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, my mom and dad are coming to visit

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Speaker 2: and everything, Like.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we throw up at least, at the very

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Speaker 1: least a dinner with all the people you love? What

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Speaker 1: do you really want? If you could have anything? I

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Speaker 1: don't mean, I don't mean an easy rig. We'll figure

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Speaker 1: out how much a mini rig is. But like if

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Speaker 1: you get for the party, what could the party be your.

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Speaker 2: Dream or you're asking me for a dream party. I

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Speaker 2: have something, yes, a budget for a stop motion short,

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Speaker 2: that would be I want to be working.

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Speaker 6: Donald said, is to you put it to work? And okay,

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Speaker 6: I feel the vibes.

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Speaker 1: You don't even want to party. You'd like everyone to

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Speaker 1: contribute a budget for you to make a short film?

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Speaker 2: Why not? Fifty? I realized I don't necessarily like to

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Speaker 2: get drunk, so when I get drunk.

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Speaker 1: Now, why is to be drunk? Bro I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to get drunk either, So I had a brunch. I

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Speaker 1: mean there was booze for people that wanted mimosas or anybody.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a drunk thing, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, bro, I don't know why I got

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Speaker 2: all melancholic. I don't know why I got all what

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Speaker 2: about paintball? That's what I really wanted to do? See

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Speaker 2: this so hot?

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Speaker 1: Man cares? God, you're such a fucking ere right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who paintball? Paintball?

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Speaker 2: I would love to go.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take your mom out with that.

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Speaker 2: I know, lace her. I don't think my mom would

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Speaker 2: make it.

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Speaker 1: Would Shirley play paintball?

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Speaker 2: Hell no, she'd stay back. She'd be like, oh, you guys,

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Speaker 2: go ahead.

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Speaker 1: What if what if we posted her up in like

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Speaker 1: a sniper position?

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Speaker 2: She'd be like, you guys, go ahead, I'm mistake at

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Speaker 2: the house.

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Speaker 1: What if we Sureley likes an occasional bit of ganja, Right,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I caught my mom smoking weed once. It was the

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Speaker 2: most awkward moment ever because she was like, she was

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Speaker 2: smoking weed and she didn't want nobody like it was

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Speaker 2: she was smoking, and it was at the end of

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Speaker 2: a blunt and she was smoking. First of all, she

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Speaker 2: was smoking a blunt and I was like, what the

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Speaker 2: fuck is going on? And she was just finished.

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Speaker 4: She was like.

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Speaker 2: Getting it out, like trying, and I'm like, what the fuck.

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Speaker 2: You might as well just finish the ship now, like

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Speaker 2: why are you trying to hide?

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Speaker 1: Funny?

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Speaker 2: So what she wanted to get that extra.

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Speaker 1: My wish for your birthday is that we give Shirley

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Speaker 1: a blunt and a sniper position at the people.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, yeah, no no no no no.

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Speaker 1: No, Daniel, Daniel's in New York. Joelle, you would come

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Speaker 1: to paintball.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and take that sniper position with the blood if

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Speaker 6: it's still being offered.

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Speaker 1: Let's right, that's all right. If your mom's not going

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Speaker 1: to take the blunts niner position, can Joel have that?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? But let's go play paper. I mean, let we

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Speaker 2: could go play paintball.

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Speaker 1: That was all right. That's one thing I worked out good.

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Speaker 1: That's on the list. By the way, Glendale, I passed.

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Speaker 1: It has a laser tag still they got old school

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Speaker 1: laser tags. So fine, it's a really cool. Have you

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Speaker 1: been there with you Joey.

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Speaker 6: Sixth birthday party there in Glendale.

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Speaker 1: I just keep driving by it and I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: How big is the one in Glendale, because there's one

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Speaker 2: in Sherman Oaks that is uh, you take the kids

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Speaker 2: for that one, and it's a lot of fun for

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Speaker 2: the kids, but not necessarily for the adult.

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Speaker 1: I want to do.

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Speaker 2: I have been to multiple laser tags.

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Speaker 1: Oh all right, so wait, Daniel, did you find out

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Speaker 1: how much the mini rig costs?

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Speaker 7: I still can't find exactly what you're talking about. There's

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Speaker 7: lots of motion control rigs, but like, I don't know

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Speaker 7: the exact model yourself.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. It's an old rig and there the

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Speaker 2: dude that makes it only makes a few of them

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Speaker 2: every year. Well, he's one of those finicky people too,

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Speaker 2: so like when you get on the phone with them,

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Speaker 2: even after you've you know, struck the deal, he's like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm making a bunch for this company right now, and

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Speaker 2: if there's one left over for you, I'll call you.

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Speaker 2: But I want to warn you. This is about thirty grand.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, yeah, okay, I get that, Sure.

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Speaker 1: I still want to I know it's thirty grand, but

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Speaker 1: here's my question. Thirty grand might be like the premiere version.

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Speaker 1: What if you got like.

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Speaker 2: A Siah No, no, no, this is the only version

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Speaker 2: of this. It's a ten it's not even ten feet.

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Speaker 2: It's like a really tiny The track is like maybe

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Speaker 2: four feet and it's up. You put it on a table.

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Speaker 2: The rig itself is it looks old school. It comes

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Speaker 2: with an arm and an arm comes out and you

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Speaker 2: put your you mount your you know, your camera on

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Speaker 2: it and it it's a tiny rig. It's like a table.

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Speaker 1: And for those that don't know, this would enable you

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Speaker 1: to while you're doing stuff, have the camera move and

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Speaker 1: Dolly and crane up in the world of your figures.

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Speaker 2: Right right, Well, what I could do is I could

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Speaker 2: do a shot with the camera doing it, and then

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Speaker 2: I would remove all of the figures and redo the

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Speaker 2: shot with just the camera doing it. That way, I

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Speaker 2: could superimpose it all or with spaceships do flybys.

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Speaker 1: But you're not open to accepting a lesser expensive version.

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Speaker 2: There is no lesser expensive version.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that, and I would imagine George Martin. Right,

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Speaker 2: Good, dude. This shit is fire man. The Dune goes

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Speaker 1: All right, Joelle, tell us about these guests a little

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Speaker 1: So well, let them in. They're probably in already because

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Speaker 1: all right, bring them in. They've been in the they've

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Speaker 8: So YadA, Oh there they are, Hey, John, I j Hello, gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: Hi Jens, gentlemen, you've made your first mistake. Man, we

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Speaker 2: Poor judge of character. Gentlemen. Oh god, I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: For Yes, we have so many question.

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Speaker 2: Like are aliens real? Or is that a conspiracy?

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Speaker 1: Give us the scoop on aliens. Let's just start off

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Speaker 4: Let's just start out with we can either confirm nor deny. Right,

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Speaker 4: We're going to answer every question. That's going to be

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Speaker 1: So let's real.

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Speaker 2: That's how you start, how you started conspiracy theory?

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Speaker 1: Obviously, Wait, are you guys when you go on podcasts?

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Speaker 4: No, you'll be surprised. Now we can talk a lot.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, during the pandemic, aliens seem like they were

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Speaker 2: Increasing what they pulled out and uh was in Mexico

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Speaker 1: Well that was clearly fake. But there was a fighter

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Speaker 1: Sorry if this is our first question for CIA agents,

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, John, do you want to say

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Speaker 9: run spies and sources and we call them agents or

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Speaker 9: sources or assets.

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Speaker 1: And so assets.

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Speaker 9: Okay, so right, But yeah, in terms of of aliens, sure,

444
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Speaker 9: let's talk about did we have the podcast Mission Implausible

445
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Speaker 9: And we did an episode with Michael ian Black, the

446
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Speaker 9: comedian who apparently is very into the whole alien thing.

447
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Speaker 9: And frankly, I had no idea how many people truly

448
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Speaker 9: are into the whole thing. And there are quite up

449
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Speaker 9: to date on things. There is a office at the

450
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Speaker 9: Department of Defense at the Pentagon who studies these things.

451
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Speaker 9: The number of senators and congressmen have been pushing to

452
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Speaker 9: provide money to get to the US government to put

453
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Speaker 9: out what it knows about unidentified flying objects or they

454
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Speaker 9: call them UAPs now whatever that whatever that is, unidentified

455
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Speaker 9: aerial phenomenon.

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Speaker 2: Or something like that.

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Speaker 9: And so there's great interest in it.

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Speaker 4: But but but let me set the stage for this.

459
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Speaker 4: So the Mission Implausible, which is the podcast we're doing.

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Speaker 4: We John and I as former agency office. We've rolled

461
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Speaker 4: our cover back so we can say that now we

462
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Speaker 4: were conspirators. We did conspiracies, but little ones, like a

463
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Speaker 4: conspiracy like I work for the State Department, or if

464
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Speaker 4: you're going to approach you North Korean missile scientists, she

465
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Speaker 4: can't say, hey, I'm a CIA guy. You have to

466
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Speaker 4: come in and say I am. I am a German

467
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Speaker 4: businessman and O vish to warcris you y'ah. You know,

468
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Speaker 4: we will make money to guess, and so we make

469
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Speaker 4: little conspiracies and we're looking at like big conspiracies, and

470
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Speaker 4: we're talking about like we've done conspiracies. We know how

471
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Speaker 4: they how they don't work, mostly because most of the

472
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Speaker 4: times they fucked up. They're smaller the better, and so

473
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Speaker 4: we're looking at bigger conspiracies. So we're probably going to

474
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Speaker 4: talk now about aliens and you know, all these big conspiracies,

475
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Speaker 4: and we'll give you sort of like what it's really

476
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Speaker 4: like inside of the agency and like how like we

477
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Speaker 4: see the world really working. So bring on the aliens.

478
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Speaker 4: There are aliens, by the way, but they're they're Guatemalans.

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Speaker 2: Aliens always come to America. What's that about? Like, how

480
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Speaker 2: come America as always the number one spot you don't

481
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Speaker 2: have to hear about Russia and saying listen, we got

482
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Speaker 2: the aliens over here.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm sensing you guys. Obviously aliens are probably not

484
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Speaker 1: under the purview of the CIA, but we just thought

485
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Speaker 1: you might want to share some secrets with us.

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Speaker 2: If there's any stories that you have, we'd love to

487
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Speaker 2: hear them.

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Speaker 4: We'd love to tell you, but there's no way we

489
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Speaker 4: could kill both you and your audience. It's listening in

490
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Speaker 4: if you tell the truth, right, you know.

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Speaker 9: Well, Tonny Donald, you bring that up, And that's one

492
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Speaker 9: of the questions. We thought we were being clever, and

493
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Speaker 9: we were asking Michael Ian Black because he's a big

494
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Speaker 9: UFO follower. We don't know much about it at all,

495
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Speaker 9: and uh I said the same thing, like, well, you know,

496
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Speaker 9: why are they all come in here? Like if if this,

497
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Speaker 9: if there's a phenomena out there that comes to earth,

498
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Speaker 9: why what does the US government have to do with it?

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Speaker 9: Why they'll come to the United States? And he schooled

500
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Speaker 9: me like, oh, it's not true. They're all over and

501
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Speaker 9: these other places have reported things, and so.

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Speaker 1: So we'll have to have Michael ian black On to

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Speaker 1: ask about aliens. Yeah, let me ask you guys a question.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine a lot of people in our audience

505
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Speaker 1: would want to know. Is it seems like a very cool,

506
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Speaker 1: exciting job. How do how does the CIA recruit people?

507
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Speaker 1: What is what is the what are the criteria for

508
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Speaker 1: becoming a CIA What did you say the term was

509
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Speaker 1: an agent officer?

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Speaker 4: I mean obviously good looks and charm, right, I mean

511
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Speaker 4: that goes without saying it's not true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well charm has definitely got to be a part

513
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Speaker 2: of it, right.

514
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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, well it depends. So the CI, you know,

515
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Speaker 9: that is the nation's intelligence organization. It's part of a

516
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Speaker 9: larger intelligence community that includes the Parmer Defense and then

517
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Speaker 9: essay in all those places. But so the CIA has

518
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Speaker 9: a big analytic codre. So the people that are looking

519
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Speaker 9: for there are almost like, you know, university professors or

520
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Speaker 9: experts on things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean people in the field undercover the

522
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Speaker 1: cool part the James Bond shit.

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Speaker 2: Right, So that's what we did.

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Speaker 9: We spent our career overseas living in embassies undercover. In

525
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Speaker 9: our cases, we pretended to be State Department diplomats while

526
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Speaker 9: we're overseas, and what they're looking for. In fact, nowadays

527
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Speaker 9: most people just apply online on to the website. But

528
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Speaker 9: what they're looking for is a variety of things. Obviously,

529
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Speaker 9: people who are interested in foreign cultures, that like people

530
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Speaker 9: and like foreigners, and developing relationships, because that's what we do,

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Speaker 9: is we meet people overseas and try to develop a

532
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Speaker 9: set of trust with them so that they might actually

533
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Speaker 9: have secrets that they're willing to share with us. So

534
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Speaker 9: they're looking for, you, people who like foreign cultures, that

535
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Speaker 9: are interested in living overseas, that are pretty good at

536
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Speaker 9: speaking languages, that are interested in the issues of the day,

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Speaker 9: that right well, but also that have you know, they're

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Speaker 9: comfortable operating on the streets under potential surveillance. A spatial

539
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Speaker 9: awareness to determine whether they're under surveillance. Used to be

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Speaker 9: when the CI first started. There was from the OSS

541
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Speaker 9: days in World War Two. The idea was you're looking

542
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Speaker 9: for essentially a PhD who could win a bar fight.

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Speaker 2: That is what they used to say.

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Speaker 4: That's cool, So let's talk about the mission of the CIA, right,

545
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Speaker 4: because you your people into what they need to do.

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Speaker 4: So if the US government has a problem, right, or

547
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Speaker 4: any democratic goverment it has an issue, it looks to

548
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Speaker 4: this toolkit, right, and it's like, oh, this is an

549
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Speaker 4: issue with the military should do this, or the diplomat

550
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Speaker 4: should do this, or treasury should do this. But when

551
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Speaker 4: it has an intractable issue that nobody knows how to solve, right,

552
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Speaker 4: like you know, Iranian missiles or a North Korean nuclear program,

553
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Speaker 4: or you know, how do you get inside the the Kremlin?

554
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Speaker 4: Nobody knows how to do that, so they turn to

555
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Speaker 4: the CIA. So we get the hardest jobs that no

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Speaker 4: one else knows how to do. So we recruit people

557
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Speaker 4: who are able to deal with ambiguity, able to deal

558
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Speaker 4: with failure because a lot of what we do is

559
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Speaker 4: like I don't know if you sposed to swear in

560
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Speaker 4: the show, but really hard, right, it's.

561
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Speaker 2: Really fucking hard. We don't know.

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Speaker 4: And the thing is we don't know how to do

563
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Speaker 4: it either, but we work to figure it out. So

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Speaker 4: we're people who, like often are outside the box rule abiders,

565
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Speaker 4: but we understand you know that we can't. We got

566
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Speaker 4: to think outside of the box. So the FBI is

567
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Speaker 4: law enforcement, they're cops, and we're essentially robbers, right. We

568
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Speaker 4: spionage is a legal yea.

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Speaker 2: So it's all fair in love and war. Baby, Let's

570
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Speaker 2: take a break.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words that. So

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Speaker 1: you're you're undercover and then you're trying to recruit just

573
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Speaker 1: from watching TV shows, you're trying to recruit assets, right,

574
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Speaker 1: So who will feed you information? Sometimes they know they're

575
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Speaker 1: helping you for some reason, and sometimes they don't know

576
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Speaker 1: they're helping you.

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Speaker 9: Right, Almost always know because what you want that person

578
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Speaker 9: to be motivated to do what they want to do.

579
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Speaker 9: What we want to do is develop a relationship of

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Speaker 9: trust with a source of someone who has accessed the

581
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Speaker 9: secrets that the US government can't get any other way,

582
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Speaker 9: and then have that person work with us over time

583
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Speaker 9: and maybe move up in their bureocracy so that eventually

584
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Speaker 9: we have a very senior person who's providing us the

585
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Speaker 9: secrets that presidents need to know. And so you know,

586
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Speaker 9: there's occasions that would work on terrorism or something that

587
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Speaker 9: the person might not know who we are, Like Jerry said,

588
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Speaker 9: we might pretend to be a German or pretend to

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Speaker 9: be something else, but usually our sources know exactly what

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Speaker 9: they're doing.

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Speaker 4: Right, So I'll just give you my personal journey. Right,

592
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 4: this might surprise your audience. Like I'm an ex hippie, right,

593
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Speaker 4: you see my age, but like I was, even those

594
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Speaker 4: hippies are anymore, I know, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, I know we do of a certain age, right,

596
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Speaker 2: a certain age.

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Speaker 4: But I like I lived in Europe. I worked on

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Speaker 4: a you know, it's construction site. I worked as a

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Speaker 4: waiter in Germany. I smuggled cars into Iran. I got

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Speaker 4: thrown into jail and around for smuggling cars. For a

601
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Speaker 4: little bit. I was smoking dope in Afghanistan. I was

602
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Speaker 4: a disciple in the Seguld and temple hiked in the Himalayas.

603
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Speaker 4: I like hitchhiked through Africa, lived in the Middle East,

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Speaker 4: lived in Mexico. And then I like I got to

605
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Speaker 4: grow up, right, I mean, got a feed.

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Speaker 2: With this was all about being I thought this was

607
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Speaker 2: before then I went.

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Speaker 4: Then then I showed up in grad school, like I

609
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Speaker 4: got to you know, and degree in international business management. Right,

610
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Speaker 4: I gotta feed myself. And and I got a letter

611
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Speaker 4: in the mail and just said, hey, basically, you're a

612
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Speaker 4: weird dude. We've heard about you from a professor I

613
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Speaker 4: think narked on me and they said hey, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 4: there's no way they'll accept me, right because like I

615
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Speaker 4: was going to try meetings in Germany as a student

616
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Speaker 4: and smoking.

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Speaker 2: They probably should, But in the end they.

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Speaker 4: Said no, no, we're looking for people with different backgrounds, who

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Speaker 4: problem solved differently. And and I have to say, I

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Speaker 4: I I love my thirty three years So what was

621
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Speaker 4: it training like?

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Speaker 1: Then? Then they you know where where?

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Speaker 2: What is it? You got to become right, you've got

624
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Speaker 2: to become a lethal and you got to become.

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Speaker 1: A legal agent.

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Speaker 4: You can't so John was a trainer. John actually worked

627
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Speaker 4: out at the.

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Speaker 2: But there's no way you can go under cover and

629
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Speaker 2: not be able to protect yourself.

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Speaker 1: Like, why would Well tell us about that?

631
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Speaker 4: Is it?

632
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Speaker 1: Is it bullshit that you have You said you have

633
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Speaker 1: to win a bar fight. But you know in the

634
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Speaker 1: movies obviously I know you guys advise on movies. Agents

635
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Speaker 1: Sorry c A A fucking officers are always represented as

636
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Speaker 1: being badass fighters. And do you go to training like that?

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Speaker 1: You're shaking your head, John.

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Speaker 9: No, I mean, in fact, for the most part, I

639
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Speaker 9: never carried a gun or needed a gun in war

640
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Speaker 9: zones and things. Obviously we have to protect ourselves. Jerry

641
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Speaker 9: is one of these guys riding horses in Afghanistan. I'm

642
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 9: looking for and loud and in that case he was

643
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Speaker 9: with special forces carrying weapons and things. But for most

644
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Speaker 9: of our career is not at all. Again, we're trying

645
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Speaker 9: to just develop relationships with people who have secrets and

646
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Speaker 9: see if we can't get those secrets. So, you know,

647
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Speaker 9: it's more mundane in that sense. I mean, obviously US

648
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 9: government needs secrets from around the world, and there are

649
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Speaker 9: dangerous places. So we if we're in a dangerous place,

650
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Speaker 9: we are trained how to protect ourselves there, how to

651
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Speaker 9: drive spin cars, jump out of planes, shoot things we

652
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Speaker 9: need to. But that's not the basis of the job. Obviously,

653
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Speaker 9: movies love that piece of it.

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Speaker 2: That's so, that's what the audiences love.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, exactly, and it's not so. But by winn

656
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Speaker 4: bar fight, it's really more talking our way out of it, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Out of a bar fight, you would be perfect. Don't

658
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Speaker 2: get in a bar fight.

659
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Speaker 4: There you go.

660
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Speaker 2: I've made that mistake a couple of times where I've

661
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: gotten where the fight's about to happen and I've found

662
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: a way out of that thing.

663
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 9: And you're smart, So that's what they do. And they

664
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 9: when they train us on weapons. For the most part,

665
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 9: we're trained to what they call get off the X,

666
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 9: which is another nice way of saying run away, like

667
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 9: we were trained. You know, military they run to the fight.

668
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 9: Their job is to use their weapons. Our job is

669
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 9: the last resort if we have to use a weapon.

670
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 9: But in general we're talking to.

671
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Run out of the get out of the.

672
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: X of I like that.

673
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try that expression.

674
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: I have a secret, Then what's your secret? Is it Putin?

675
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: We already know it, man, we already know your secret.

676
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: Is it Putin?

677
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 9: Is what Putin?

678
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: Is that Putin? Or is that somebody else is Putin? Putin?

679
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: You know what?

680
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: Yes, it's Putin.

681
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 9: And I served in Moscow and Russia have dealt with

682
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 9: Putin and a number of other KGB guys around him.

683
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 9: But yeah, I think nowadays, when you become a dictator,

684
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 9: you start being afraid of your own people. And so

685
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 9: I think there are some body doubles out there now,

686
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 9: which you know, like Sodam Hussein and other people like

687
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 9: that when they worried about getting shot.

688
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,239
Speaker 1: So I think I would do that if I had

689
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: infinite money and so many people wanted to kill me,

690
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: I would certainly say, go hire some lookalike, start with

691
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: Dax Shephard.

692
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: Start with Dax, and then get see.

693
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: How much Dax costs, because that we can. You can

694
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: do that right off the bat. He can.

695
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: And if it's not him, you got to go after.

696
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Ray ram Monol you fucking asshole.

697
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 4: You're right, And how do you have character assassination?

698
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: So it's just as bad, right, Well, what about.

699
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: The what about the secret tools that we see in

700
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: the movies? Are any of those real?

701
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 5: Like, uh, you know the screen or oil slick, No,

702
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 5: that's fucking that's the video game. We love SpyHunter, Yeah,

703
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 5: not Spy Hunter.

704
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: No, But I mean, like, is all that bullshit that

705
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: when I think of the CIA, I think of them

706
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: using cool secret tools? Is any of that accurate?

707
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: Cameras well?

708
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 9: Likeny Kramer's for surely? So what Jerry said is, you know,

709
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 9: our job is to, if there's a problem, to figure

710
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 9: out how to solve the problem. And usually we try

711
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 9: to solve it by finding a person inside at an

712
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 9: institution that we can suborn or work with or what

713
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 9: have you. And if we need tools to do that,

714
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 9: if you need to listen to their phones, if you

715
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 9: need to take surreptitious pictures, if you need to surveil them.

716
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 9: You know, we do have people who can get us

717
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 9: the tools and fancy things we need, but for the

718
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 9: most part, again it's just building relationships. We don't we

719
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 9: don't need those things. And in fact, when we debrief

720
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 9: a source, you know that we've we've made sure we're

721
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 9: not under surveillance, and we meet them secretly in a

722
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 9: place to get information, to share the secrets with us.

723
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 9: You know, we often we don't record that. We just

724
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 9: usually listen and remember it and go back.

725
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Why because you're worried you'd be caught. I mean, why

726
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: not record it? You're worried that they'll pat you down

727
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: like they do in the movies and be like it

728
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: depends where you're recording me U asshole.

729
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's for sure.

730
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 9: If you're in Moscow and you meet someone and you

731
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 9: know on their way back here, you know you're caught

732
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 9: or something, that's certainly a concern. But also you know,

733
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 9: just yeah, I mean, we don't need to train. We're

734
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 9: trained to elicit information and remember what it is and

735
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 9: write it down. So it's better not to have extra stuff.

736
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: I want to commit because it's a really good question.

737
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 4: Sack on the high tech stuff. So, yeah, some of

738
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: the high tech stuff exists, but increasingly and ironically, the

739
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: more high tech there is, the more we go stone age, right,

740
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: anything technical.

741
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 2: Like if I send you a coded.

742
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: Message that no one can break if you're my asset,

743
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: what if ten years from now someone can break that,

744
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: you're screwed. But if it's not recorded and it's not

745
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: put on video anywhere, if nobody sees it, it didn't happen.

746
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: You have to sort of future proof everyone.

747
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

748
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: Like that there might be a code breaking app in

749
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: five years in that person, going.

750
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: Back to the nineteen fifties.

751
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like you don't want to use your phone drop

752
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 9: to be tracked, but.

753
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: The CIA, you can't CIA get into anybody's phone, like

754
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: if they want to.

755
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 9: That's more the NSA's job often helped by the CIA,

756
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 9: so overseas, not anyone's phone. I don't think. I think

757
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 9: there's a lot of very skilled people who can get

758
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 9: into get into those kind of places. But we can

759
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 9: come up with an operation. If we need to get

760
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 9: into a Iranian scientist's computer, we would try to come

761
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 9: up with a means to do that, and that's essentially

762
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 9: what our job is.

763
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: And so yeah, we do that.

764
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 9: But it isn't as if there's some dude sitting back

765
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 9: here like and nobody's clicking on his computer and they

766
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 9: can't get into anything in the world.

767
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 4: And on a phone, if you do a phone tap,

768
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 4: you're talking like huge resources to listen to somebody's phone

769
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: and actually understand it, especially in a foreign language, because

770
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 4: we're not allowed to tap us phones. So it takes

771
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: like a team of like, sure you're not Jerry, Sure.

772
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: You're not Jerry.

773
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 4: We have.

774
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: Sure Jerry wink emoji.

775
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 9: Americans are boring. Who wants to listen to their freaking phones?

776
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 9: It's all low porn and ship.

777
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: I think that it's possible for the CIA to get

778
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: into anybody's phone, at least in the country.

779
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 9: Possible.

780
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 4: Why would you want to.

781
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to operate in the country, right, You're

782
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: all overseas.

783
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: No, they can operate anywhere. It's as long as it's

784
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: it's just.

785
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: But is it is it foreigner related?

786
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: Like?

787
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: Where do you not overlap?

788
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 9: We are foreign intelligence operation. Our job is to collect

789
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 9: foreign intelligence from China and Russia around.

790
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: So you can't do it. You can't you can't get Okay,

791
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: thank you there.

792
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 9: So, yes, So we operate overseas. Our job is to

793
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 9: recruit foreigners to collect foreign intelligence. However, we do have

794
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 9: people in the United States who work with the FBI.

795
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 9: So the FBI's job is to track foreign counterintelligence counter

796
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 9: intelligence operators that are in the United States, and so

797
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 9: we often work with them, and we sometimes work with

798
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 9: the US companies that have relationships overseas to collect foreign intelligence.

799
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 9: So we do have people in the United States that

800
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 9: work on They're not we're not looking Americans. We're looking

801
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 9: to cru If there's an Iranian scientist studying nuclear physics

802
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 9: at cal who might go back into that thing, it

803
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 9: would be nice to meet them before they go back.

804
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: Right, let's take a break.

805
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. I have

806
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: a question, would the CIA ever hire a forty nine

807
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: year old actor? Because this sounds very exciting? Is it

808
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: too late for me?

809
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: I bet you, I bet you. There are actors in

810
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: the industry that are already working for the CIA.

811
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: Zach Okay, Well, I would like to audition. I'll do

812
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: a monologue, I'll do whatever.

813
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 9: You're very smart to make your money first and then

814
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 9: join the CIA.

815
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 2: I'll tell you you got good benefits.

816
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: Is that if you're like really in deep and you

817
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: and you and you get some bonus. If you're like

818
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: in deep and you do something amazing and then you

819
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: come back or they like hear ja, That's what.

820
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you. That was my question.

821
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: Has anybody ever gone into deep?

822
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 4: Like?

823
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: Is anybody Donald Joson to Jerry? I do like to

824
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: go deep, but as have you guys? Ever do you

825
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: know of anybody like well, do you know anybody's like Yo,

826
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: Sally went too deep man, she fell in love with

827
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: fucking the dude. And or Jim went too deep he

828
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: fell in love with her. Did that ever happen? Yes,

829
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: but please tell us yes.

830
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 4: Yes, no, no, the yes is and this is this

831
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 4: is actually serious and tragic. Sometimes this job can be

832
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: like an addiction, right. I mean, we have a lot

833
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: of failed marriages, We have a you know, alcoholism is

834
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 4: an issue because people are like you, just you work

835
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 4: at your job and you believe in it, and I

836
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: think you give up. You know, we miss we miss

837
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 4: the birth.

838
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: Of our kids.

839
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 4: Sometimes we miss things and so yeah, I think I

840
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: think we also have a very low attrition rate, like

841
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 4: people never leave the agency once you're in. Once you

842
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: people are like I love this by and rug.

843
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: What Donald's asking is, have you guys seen real, real

844
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: life experiences of people falling in love or getting too

845
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: close to the person that they're tailing.

846
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 9: So in general, we don't. It's interesting if you see

847
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 9: movies and stuff the ideas we use sex to compromise me.

848
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: John, you're handsome. I bet you used how many I

849
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: bet them?

850
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: Russian girls was all over here?

851
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: How many.

852
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: Get John to tell you his Russian girls story?

853
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: John, I don't see a Russian girl story? And does

854
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: it have anything to do with going too deep?

855
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: John's like, how do I answer this question? How do

856
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: I get So?

857
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 9: We do not use sex because or compromise, because the

858
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 9: problem is we're trying to develop relationships with people that

859
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 9: they trust us and their supports so they e spy

860
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 9: for us for years. If you compromise someone, they're looking

861
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 9: to get out of it, or they're looking to screw

862
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 9: you with the first opportunity. And I'll tell you my

863
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 9: Russian it's a little it's a little long. I'll tell

864
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 9: you real quick. I'll try to do the quick version.

865
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 9: When I was in Moscow, I was at ciaf S,

866
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 9: I was undercover working in the embassy. And I met

867
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 9: this beautiful girl at a party. It was a German

868
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 9: diplint was having this party, and we are not allowed

869
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 9: to date Russians because the Russians use people against us,

870
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 9: They try to run sources, they try to make us

871
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 9: have sex with people so that they can then.

872
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, use that must be hard because they they seduce you.

873
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 9: And so I was single and I met this woman

874
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 9: and she was a concert pianist and she was just stunning.

875
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 9: And we were't allowed to date Russians at the time.

876
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 9: And I met her at a party and I said, well,

877
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 9: you know, maybe she's Ukrainian. So I said, let's meet

878
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 9: try work, trying to work tomorrow for brunch. And so

879
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 9: I drove home that night from the party, not with her,

880
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 9: and and I had my surveillance that followed me everywhere.

881
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 9: I'll explain that to you later, like Russians follow you

882
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 9: and they have audio and video in your house where

883
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 9: they watch everything you do. And so I got home

884
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 9: and I realized, yeah, this is stupid, she's Russian. This thing.

885
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 9: So the next morning I went to the brunch with her.

886
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 9: My surveillance cars followed me this fancy hotel. I had

887
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 9: this brunch and I said, listen, I'm really sorry. My

888
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 9: embassy discourages us having relationships to the Russians. You know,

889
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 9: I think it's really nice to meet you and have brunch,

890
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 9: but I'm going to be unable to see you again.

891
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 9: And she got really like upset, like what's wrong with

892
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 9: your embassy? The Cold War is over. This doesn't make

893
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 9: any sense, you know, why can't young people meet each other?

894
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 9: I said, listen, I'm sorry, I understand. Fast forward about

895
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 9: a week later, I get a call in the embassy

896
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 9: and it's snowing. It's the embassy is writing an old

897
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 9: downtown Moscow, and she called, can you meet me outside

898
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 9: my conservatory? I have something to tell you. And I

899
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 9: was like, oh, Christy in Moscow. I was going to

900
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 9: set you up a side. I said, oh, what's happening here?

901
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 9: So I did so I have to. At the end

902
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 9: of the day, I was like seven at night, it's dark,

903
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 9: I'm driving home, it's all snowy, and my surveillance cars

904
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 9: are following me into the old part of Moscow and

905
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 9: she's standing out in front of her conservatory and on

906
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 9: the sidewalk in a big, long fur coat. And so

907
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 9: I got out to see her and I'm like, Okay,

908
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 9: what's going on. This could be weird, And she said, listen,

909
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 9: I just want you to know that I won't date

910
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 9: you either. After I met you, the cage came to

911
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 9: my house. They threatened my parents. They told me I

912
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 9: had to date you, I had to sleep with you,

913
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 9: and they told my parents they would lose their jobs

914
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 9: unless I continue to do that. And I now realize

915
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 9: you're right. Your country is right. My country is still

916
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 9: thinking in the old way. And uh, you know, I

917
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 9: understand why you did that now. And I was like, no, man,

918
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 9: I like you more now.

919
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 4: But having to sleep with John right, good point.

920
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 9: So that's to give you a sense of how the

921
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 9: Russians are, the intensity of them trying to stop what

922
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 9: American diplomats, American intelligence officers are doing. They're willing to

923
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 9: use anybody, their own citizens included.

924
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: I am, that's that's incredible. Yeah, I'm sure that a

925
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: lot of officers must fall to that, even though they've

926
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: been briefed on it. You know, the powers of sexual

927
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: attraction can are can be very.

928
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: That's why we don't use it.

929
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm saying that they must.

930
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 9: Jerry's married to a foregner. So if we meet a foreigner,

931
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 9: not Moscow is unusual because they use it the Intelligence Service,

932
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 9: Security Service against us. If we meet a foreigner. We

933
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 9: can date foreigners, but we have to report it for

934
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 9: counterintelligence purposes or can't be used against us. So if

935
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 9: I meet am single and I meet a foreign woman

936
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 9: and I start dating or I just have to write

937
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 9: to Washington and tell everything about her and they look

938
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 9: and to see if there's any information on them or whatever.

939
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 9: And so that's that's the process there. And so a

940
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 9: number of agency people and also Stayed, Parma, Tiplants and

941
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 9: other people marry foreigners.

942
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 4: But when you.

943
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 9: Propose to marry them, you have to then break the

944
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 9: news to them where you really work, that you work

945
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 9: in the CIA, and they have to become they have

946
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 9: to agree to become American citizens, and they have to

947
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 9: take a polygraph, so you have to if they.

948
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: Can't being able to tell a woman that you're like,

949
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: I have to tell you something, and she's like, like,

950
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: I work for the CIA. I'm a CIA officer, and

951
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean I just feel like Donald we should use.

952
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: We should be using that line anyway in our own line.

953
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: So a big care careful bro, be careful bro, counter intelligence.

954
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: Listen. You might think that I'm an actor. I understand

955
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: why you would think that about the.

956
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: Actors are.

957
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: Actually work for the CIA. I'm undercover as a as

958
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: an actor.

959
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: A friend of mine he was in Germany. He was

960
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: dating a German woman and he wanted to, you know,

961
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: he filled out the paperwork. She was fine. It's just

962
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 4: you know, she wasn't a spy except to get him.

963
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 4: And so he takes her through these this romantic evening. Uh,

964
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 4: the son's going down and they go up to these

965
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 4: all these vineyards are bottle wine, some cheese and bread,

966
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 4: and I think she suspects that he's gonna like propose,

967
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 4: and he sits down and he says, I need to

968
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 4: talk with you. This is really serious, he says. So

969
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 4: the first thing I need to tell you, he says,

970
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: is I work for the CIA, and I want you

971
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 4: to marry me. And she faints like God, and she's like,

972
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: He's like, oh my god, you know the CIA thing

973
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 4: it like, and so he like wakes her, wakes, she comes,

974
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 4: she comes to and he goes are you okay? He says,

975
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: I'll resign from the CIA if you want, and she goes, no,

976
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna tell me you were gay.

977
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: And just like what he says, well, you always put

978
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: palmade in your hair and you dressed nice, and I

979
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 3: thought maybe you were bye and like.

980
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: She's like, I was so certain that was what it was.

981
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 4: And and he says no, and she goes.

982
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: Oh, you just I just work with this.

983
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 4: And she's like, oh, that's no problem right there, still married.

984
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 4: She's like, no, no issue.

985
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: That's funny. I'm fine that we could get assassinated. I

986
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: just don't want you to be fine.

987
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Have you ever seen someone get

988
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: Have you ever been like next to the dude that

989
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: got caught and looking at him like, shut the fuck up,

990
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up, shut the fun up, say my name.

991
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 9: Well, no, we're usually because we work in embassies overseas

992
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 9: under the diplomatic cover. If we're with a source and

993
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 9: get caught, you know, we get kicked out of the country.

994
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 9: So to us, people say, oh, it's brave or whatever.

995
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 9: You know, the brave people are the sources that work

996
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 9: for us, because those guys are committing espionage and they

997
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 9: get arrested, they go to prison, they get shot, their

998
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 9: family gets arrested. And so our job is to protect

999
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 9: those people.

1000
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: What's their incentive? You give them? You give them money?

1001
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: Is that their incentive?

1002
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: No? Rarely?

1003
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes why why did these why are these brave people

1004
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: put their lives on the line.

1005
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 4: I'll give you one story that covers both what they're

1006
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 4: facing and why. But I'm sort of mixing two stories.

1007
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: But I won't say the country. But one guy was

1008
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 4: a real patriot of his country, loved his country. I'm

1009
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: not going to say where. He loved his country. And

1010
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 4: he and Yeah, he would meet, He and I would meet,

1011
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 4: and eventually he says to me, I need to borrow

1012
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: a thousand dollars and I'm like, okay. He knows I'm CIA,

1013
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 4: by the way, and I know he's an intelligence officer

1014
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: with his country and we're working together on a common thing,

1015
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 4: but we don't trust each other, which is another weird

1016
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 4: angle on this. And he says, look, you know what

1017
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 4: you're thinking, because you're a CIA guy, You're not going

1018
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 4: to fucking recruit me, right, I'm not recruitable, but I

1019
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 4: need the money. And I said sure, but I can

1020
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: ask why, and he says, well, my daughter needs an operation.

1021
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 4: And in the country where it was, the medical care

1022
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: isn't very good, and I want to get a doctor

1023
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 4: with more training. And I'm like, okay, but why don't

1024
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 4: you borrow like fifteen hundred dollars and get like a real,

1025
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 4: you know, decent medical care. He goes, no, no, this is

1026
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 4: good enough. It's it's just a basic thing on you know,

1027
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: it's a stomach operation. It's it's pretty run of the

1028
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: mill because his country's health care industry had sort of

1029
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 4: broken down. His his insurance didn't really work because it

1030
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 4: was all corrupted in this country. And so later I

1031
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 4: met him, and I have daughters too, and I brought

1032
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 4: him some beanie babies and you know, a video from

1033
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 4: a Disney film. And I see him and I say, hey,

1034
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: you know, how's it going. And he's got a bag

1035
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 4: with him and in the bag he's on the top

1036
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 4: of it or some beanie baby I'd given him from

1037
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 4: before for his daughter and who was five. And he

1038
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 4: hands me the bag and he says, no, no, this

1039
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: is for you. I said, no, no, keep on until she

1040
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: gets better. And he said, my daughter died on the

1041
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: operating table. She bled to death. He says, because we

1042
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 4: don't have medical care because the president and my boss

1043
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 4: stole all the insurance money and I can't get And

1044
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: he said, he said, that's it. He said, I am

1045
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 4: a patriot, I love my country. My government has betrayed

1046
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: my country. You know, this is pretty serious shit. This

1047
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 4: is like wrong. And he says, I'm in right. I'm

1048
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: going to use you CIA as my weapon of revenge,

1049
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 4: like making it right. There's shit you need to know.

1050
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: And he says, we're all over you, like people you

1051
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 4: know who are working with you, they work for us,

1052
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 4: and I'm going to tell you who they are. So

1053
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 4: fast forward, sort of a blend in the story. But

1054
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: we're driving through through the night at nighttime. I pick

1055
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 4: him up at a place and we're driving along and

1056
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: we're talking and there's a surprise checkpoint in front of us.

1057
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 4: So there's militia, guys wearing the sun you know, the mirror,

1058
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 4: sunglasses at night. Weapons, they're high. And we ride into

1059
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: this thing and I'm like, oh fuck and go. I

1060
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: don't smoke, but I've got a carton of cigarettes. Ride

1061
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: into this checkpoint and I give the head. I'm like, hey, man,

1062
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 4: you know, nice night. Here's some cigarettes American diplomat and

1063
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 4: they let me through and he's sitting next to me,

1064
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: this guy. And as we drive through, I look at

1065
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: him and I'm like, that was that worked? He pulls

1066
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 4: out a maker off and he says very serious. He says,

1067
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 4: they wouldn't take us alive, and I'm thinking, fuck us,

1068
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 4: Like I got diplomatic community. All they do to me

1069
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 4: is like throw me out of the country. But he

1070
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 4: would be executed, right, So so it's a it's a

1071
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: serious thing, and it's a it can be, but it's.

1072
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: It sounds like the CIA and other country is what

1073
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: we're talking about, Zach. The they're the ones that are

1074
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: freaking like, I'm gonna sleep with you, I'm gonna shoot

1075
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 2: you ass, I'm gonna do all the things that y'all

1076
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: aren't willing to do. Y'all are like Batman and fucking

1077
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, or like Superman and everybody

1078
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: else is like the Vigilanti that's willing to do anything

1079
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: in everything.

1080
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, James Bond, you know, keep in mind he was English, so.

1081
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: That's why he was able to sleep with all these women.

1082
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe the id English and I five has different

1083
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: rules they're allowed to have, Like.

1084
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 2: You can fuck and you can shoot anybody you want.

1085
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: That's what you learn. That's what you learn on day one. Hey, guys,

1086
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: before we start stretching and doing some exercises, you guys

1087
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: are allowed to fuck whoever you want.

1088
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 4: Democracy start allow that and we're gonna.

1089
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Speaker 1: Give you an Aston Martin. Right, Hey, guys, just try

1090
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: out your Asston Martins and then meet back here for stretching.

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Speaker 2: All right, That sounds that sounds I'm sorry, Jay, but

1092
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: that sounds like the most dangerous thing ever. Man, I'm sorry.

1093
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Speaker 2: I Like, it's great to be an actor and to

1094
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: tell lies in front of a camera and everything like

1095
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: that and get paid to do that. Ship, but to

1096
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: go into a foreign country and then make up a

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00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: completely new identity and have to stick to the bible

1098
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: that you've created so that you don't get caught out there,

1099
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: or to go there and nobody else can know that

1100
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: you're CIA, but trust one person to tell them. Listen,

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00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: I'm CIA, hook me up. That sounds like the most

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00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: dangerous thing on the planet to me. And I don't

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00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 2: know why anybody would ever want to do that without

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Speaker 2: some form of protection and or you know what I mean.

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00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but most CIA officers take a cut in pay

1106
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: to do this, right, I mean, with our backgrounds and

1107
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 4: things like that, we could have gone into banking or

1108
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 4: Wall Street and they.

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00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: Just four five times. It's the thrill, right, No, it's

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Speaker 1: the mission.

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00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 9: Like you know, we feel that we're working on the

1112
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 9: issues that matter, right, so whatever. Right now, you can

1113
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 9: imagine what's happening in Israel, what's happening in Ukraine, what's

1114
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 9: happening in Iran, and North Korea is developing nuclear weapons.

1115
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 9: We're trying to find the answers the questions that the

1116
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 9: administration needs to make smart policy. Now, they don't always

1117
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 9: make smart policy, even if you bring them good information.

1118
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 9: That's a different thing altogether. But you know, we feel

1119
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 9: like you're doing something that matters, and the people who

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00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 9: are helping you are risking their lives because they believe

1121
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Speaker 9: in the United States. They believe the United States can

1122
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 9: help them because their country is either greedy, corrupt, you know,

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Speaker 9: or violent or what have you. And they're working with

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00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 9: us to try to fix things for their family and

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Speaker 9: their country. And that's that's pretty heavy stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's fun and I know your audience is going to

1127
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 4: think like, oh, it's CIA, so CIA, let's get up

1128
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 4: to the front. CIA has got skeletons in its closet, right,

1129
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 4: it's a It's an organization made up of people. So

1130
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: we have fuck ups, we get things wrong, we make mistakes.

1131
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: We're not perfect.

1132
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Speaker 4: You know, you can look back in history and there's

1133
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: all sorts of things that, like back in the forties,

1134
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: fifties and sixties that we shouldn't have done that I

1135
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 4: think are immoral and wrong. But you know, like that's

1136
00:52:59,040 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 4: sort of the way it is.

1137
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: What is the podcast that you guys do. As we

1138
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: wrap up, tell us about your show.

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00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 9: It's called Mission Implausible. And the notion was, like Jerry said,

1140
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 9: you know, we do. You know, we were in a certain

1141
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 9: sense where conspiracies oversea, we were trying to hide our

1142
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 9: real intentions from those that were tracking us and following us,

1143
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 9: so we did small sea conspiracy. So the idea is

1144
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 9: we're going to look at conspiracy theories and try to

1145
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 9: dissect them and interview people. And you know, it's similar

1146
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 9: to your programming. It's mostly lighthearted and sort of banter.

1147
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 9: And we've looked at Bill Gates microchips, we've looked at

1148
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 9: Kem Trail's Jewish space lasers. We've done Hunter Biden's laptop.

1149
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 9: We've done Vana Syndrome, We've done UFOs, We've done the

1150
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 9: deep State, under dead, Illuminati, living under.

1151
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: Have you done Ken John un Is that really him?

1152
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 2: Or is he dead? And somebody else is running the country?

1153
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: Like what's going on?

1154
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 9: If you know something, we can have you on to

1155
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 9: talk about.

1156
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: I don't know anything. All I know is what I

1157
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: hear in the media, and this it sounds like it

1158
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 2: sounds like the media is part of this whole conspiracy

1159
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: machine that's going on. Click.

1160
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. The podcast is called Mission Implausible. You

1161
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: guys are so interesting and and thank you for you.

1162
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: Love to have you back for a part too.

1163
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: At some point if.

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Speaker 1: You guys should go do a little recount on aliens

1165
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: and come back, it would be great.

1166
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 9: We weren't too helpful on that.

1167
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: No, it's all right. We appreciate you. Thank you so much.

1168
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Speaker 2: Let's take a break.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. That was great.

1170
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Speaker 2: That was they were actually great, man, they were you know.

1171
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Speaker 2: I wish they would have answered the alien question.

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Speaker 1: Well, they don't know anything about that, because I don't

1173
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: think you know, for some reason, you and I both

1174
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: thought the CIA would have alien information, but I think

1175
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Speaker 1: it's not their department.

1176
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: Well then we need to find out who does have this, Joelle.

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Speaker 1: Can you book the guy the night manager of Area

1178
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: fifty one the interview? Are you kidding me?

1179
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 6: Let me see what I could do.

1180
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Speaker 1: I wish you could book the fighter jet pilot that

1181
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 1: if you got you know the thing I'm talking about,

1182
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: the dude just look on YouTube with the guy. If

1183
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: the audience, if you don't know what I'm talking about,

1184
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: just look up, like what's it called?

1185
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: He tracked it?

1186
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, look up UFO tic tack on YouTube and

1187
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: this fighter jet.

1188
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 2: But I have a question. How big was the Actually

1189
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: it's not the size of a tic tac obviously, but

1190
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: him trying to pin it with it right.

1191
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: The size of a tick tack. He sees it, and

1192
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: he's he's following it, and.

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00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: Nobody doesn't see it outside the window. He sees it

1194
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: in the computer, I thought, And then he locks.

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00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: On you know, he's just on the and no, it's

1196
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Speaker 1: not a computer. It's his goggles with night vision, I believe.

1197
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Speaker 2: And then he locks onto it with the goggles.

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00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: Right, and he's freaking out. He's like, look at this thing.

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Speaker 1: Look at this thing's moving. He's freaking out, and he's like.

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Speaker 2: I wonder how I wanted to the size of that thing.

1201
00:55:59,160 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: I wonder what the.

1202
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: Side I think in your mind you were like you

1203
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: questioned whether it was the actual size of.

1204
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Speaker 2: A I knew it wasn't the size of a ticktack,

1205
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: because that wouldn't make sense.

1206
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Speaker 1: How would funny would it be if aliens finally invade

1207
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Speaker 1: and they're like they come in the size of a

1208
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: real tick tack. They're like, we're here to take over.

1209
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: And but it's but it's kajillions of them.

1210
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: Right, but they all like they land their little tik

1211
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: tak and they're like, we're getting out, getting out.

1212
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: We'd win for a little bit, but it would be

1213
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: like Gulliver's travel away. We'd be fucking stuck on the

1214
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 2: ground and everything they can get us eventually.

1215
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I think I would really love

1216
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: to ride one of those dune.

1217
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 2: Snakes, the worm, the sandworm.

1218
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the sandworm. I would love to I would love

1219
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: to fucking get my clippers in there and ride it.

1220
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: You're that's what it must be for Like Casey when

1221
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: she has sex with you.

1222
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: Wait are you calling? You're calling my penis sandworm?

1223
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, she like has this case you have giant like

1224
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: clippers that she clips in to ride it. Yeah, you

1225
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: should role play, Lisa, guy, you should role play that

1226
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: you're right that she's riding your sandworm and have her

1227
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: yell about it like that. That's not gonna get you

1228
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: for your birthday. I'm gonna get casey two of those

1229
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: fucking extender claw clicking worm riding.

1230
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: Things to click onto my sandworm. Yeah right, I don't know,

1231
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how well to.

1232
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: Get her a thumper. I'm gonna get a little thumper

1233
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: that you put in the vision. All right, everybody, that's

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Speaker 1: our show. Thank you for tuning in. We love you,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Be safe out there would be kind five, six, seven, eight.

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