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Speaker 2: But how's this for a throwback? You want to talk throwback? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about the Grammys, yep. Say say
Speaker 2: this part, which was the topic of conversation for the
Speaker 2: first ever episode of Lost Culture restas.
Speaker 1: And that's why it saddens us to say this is
Speaker 1: the last episode. Culture is just kidding you absolute freaks.
Speaker 2: The Kyles came in and stormed the castle and ruined it.
Speaker 1: All were throwing themselves onto the freeway. Jesays, geez, sorry guys.
Speaker 2: Death to all of them.
Speaker 1: Jesus ten and two everyone or twelve and the hand
Speaker 1: on your hip if you like me driving on the roads,
Speaker 1: because we're cruising into culch. The Grammys were last night.
Speaker 1: We were in Vegas this weekend, and Lady Gaga has
Speaker 1: hit us with it hard. Sorry, Billy, Wow, the colch lately, Bo,
Speaker 1: the coach lately, Bo, the.
Speaker 2: Cult Lately, Matt. Can we outline chart the course of
Speaker 2: how we want to discuss this brought up Billy. We
Speaker 2: can talk about snubs, which there were. There's always a few,
Speaker 2: even for a night that I thought was as great
Speaker 2: as it was last night. It's just it's so rare
Speaker 2: that it's Grammys and we're happy.
Speaker 1: Can we say, best Grammys in our lifetime? Maybe since
Speaker 1: ninety nine? Maybe I don't know, best Grammys in our
Speaker 1: recent lifetime for sure. I mean this was fun from
Speaker 1: the beginning. Oh you know, it moved. I loved the winners.
Speaker 1: I have little qualms here and there, but the wealth
Speaker 1: was being spread. I think we got some moments that
Speaker 1: were kind of live TV unforgettable. Every like that entire
Speaker 1: Let's start here that entire Best New Artist section loved
Speaker 1: that was a great TV moment. Dochi's performance, How about that.
Speaker 2: Katish into denials of river, phenomenal conveyor belt, ripping the
Speaker 2: Tom Brown off, all of it. I mean, just her
Speaker 2: fucking being held in the splits. The training this girl has. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I showed you when Crazy first came out.
Speaker 2: This My first exposure to Doti was a couple of
Speaker 2: year years ago, this video called Crazy Love.
Speaker 1: This video, this video went really hard.
Speaker 2: Kind of reminds me of Aberka Dabra, which we will
Speaker 2: get to. Don't you worry freak, Don't you worry freak?
Speaker 2: I don't know this is she is first of all
Speaker 2: historic Grammy win. But she sees that energy and god,
Speaker 2: I mean this is this is so gratifying for her
Speaker 2: where it's the sobriety journey that she's been on. This
Speaker 2: album is about that journey and for it to be
Speaker 2: held up in that way is so cool to see.
Speaker 2: What an inspiration. We love Doci in this house, the
Speaker 2: only girl that Azalia is afraid of now. Oh, because
Speaker 2: Azielia tried it with her and dot you is like,
Speaker 2: please don't do this, you will regret it.
Speaker 1: This girl is a bazooka on stage. I mean it
Speaker 1: is everything at ten top quality. I mean the precision,
Speaker 1: the vision, the just degree of difficulty that she's doing
Speaker 1: things at and it for it to look this easy.
Speaker 1: This is exactly what excellence is. I thought there was
Speaker 1: a second there after that performance, and you know, when
Speaker 1: she had won Best Rap Album and I had thought
Speaker 1: this when you know her new stuff was coming out
Speaker 1: a little early, right in the voting period, she had
Speaker 1: that insane performance on I believe it was Colbert. Colbert
Speaker 1: h Yeah, I was like, this girl could take Best
Speaker 1: New Artists. And let's not forget Tiny Dusk. Absolutely, Oh
Speaker 1: the Tiny Desk was crazy. The Tiny Dusk was out
Speaker 1: of this world. But she is somebody that is gonna
Speaker 1: be talked about the rest of her life. If she
Speaker 1: wants and plays it right, she's forever. That's a really big,
Speaker 1: bright superstar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love Doughci to go back to the Best
Speaker 2: New Artist Block loved it. I mean really stacked.
Speaker 1: Ear Ray Ray.
Speaker 2: I think is if anyone besides Billy has a snub
Speaker 2: narrative around her, I think it's Ray, but it's purely
Speaker 2: because and I think this is maybe a thing that
Speaker 2: we can talk about in terms of indie artists, Like
Speaker 2: Ray does not have the same things at our disposal
Speaker 2: that the other nominees and Best New Artists didn't necessarily,
Speaker 2: Like the reason maybe that she is still being known
Speaker 2: is because she's working with what she has and we
Speaker 2: need to give her more because she is such a talent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god.
Speaker 2: Because between Ray and I think, and I want to
Speaker 2: say Clara, like, these are the indie girls and the
Speaker 2: indie artists that like was like the last little crack
Speaker 2: in the in the China for me where it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is the thing that we can look at in
Speaker 2: the future maybe where it's like, let's give indie artists
Speaker 2: a little bit more of an apparatus to succeed in
Speaker 2: this space.
Speaker 1: The way that Ray opens up her vocal when she's
Speaker 1: build thing like because it's so dexterous and it's so cool,
Speaker 1: and it's her albums are like and her music is
Speaker 1: like a Rubik's cube to me sometimes where I'm like
Speaker 1: I do sometimes I wish you're just were a little
Speaker 1: bit more streamlined.
Speaker 2: It's slippery it's slippery.
Speaker 1: But my thing is like watching her and I got
Speaker 1: to see her at Coachella two last year and live,
Speaker 1: she's crazy. Like watching her perform is almost more interesting
Speaker 1: the way that it's had that because cause you get
Speaker 1: to the experience of watching it live and really sitting
Speaker 1: in it. Like I think one of my favorite songs
Speaker 1: for her and don't read me for this is black Mescara,
Speaker 1: just because it is a little bit more straight forward,
Speaker 1: but sure, I'm so blown away with how dynamic she is.
Speaker 1: And my favorite part of her voice is when she's belting.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's got the healthiest belt in that room.
Speaker 1: I think, well, that's that's what. You can't say that
Speaker 1: because Cynthia Rivo is maybe the best singer in the world.
Speaker 2: You and I had said this and then I obnoxiously
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this to reader's Kath' Publicis finalist Kyle's.
Speaker 2: I did text her while she was singing, and I said,
Speaker 2: I think you are unequivocally one of the best vocalists
Speaker 2: of all time.
Speaker 1: Everything about that performance with that one was crazy, crazy
Speaker 1: the amount of people that went up there and just
Speaker 1: completely demolished and created a feeling of euphoria in that room.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was an entrancing night. Yeah, we were all enthralled.
Speaker 2: We were in a literal thrall. We were going crazy
Speaker 2: watching the TV together. It was a moment after moment
Speaker 2: I got my life watching all of it.
Speaker 1: My experience, like I think, reached you remember that moment.
Speaker 1: This is also an a Worshow moment. It was actually
Speaker 1: number one on the top two hundred moment of culture.
Speaker 1: That feeling of adult deseime happening and you just feel
Speaker 1: a pure euphoria in your chest watching one of these shows.
Speaker 1: I had that like three times. I had that. When
Speaker 1: Chapel performed at the end, when she's belting her tits
Speaker 1: off while they're running the choreo of everyone running on stage,
Speaker 1: I was up out of my share, screaming, throwing hands
Speaker 1: when the entire crowd it has to feel awful, bea drake.
Speaker 1: When the entire crowd said, am that that was so crazy?
Speaker 2: That's the industry being on one side of that beef
Speaker 2: in the craziest, most cruel but perhaps justified way.
Speaker 1: It really is over huh like that that's wild. It's
Speaker 1: hard to I would imagine it's hard to feel good
Speaker 1: or be able to come back to a good place
Speaker 1: anytime soon after that one. And then the third moment
Speaker 1: I had was I guess a time. Maybe it's one
Speaker 1: moment that feels like two moments. It feels like one
Speaker 1: rather is Beyonce's country album Win Reaction and then Album
Speaker 1: of the Year, which one of our long national nightmares
Speaker 1: is over at least Beyonce's an album of that.
Speaker 2: You're Winner. Do you have a vessel of for a
Speaker 2: beverage in front of you?
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: Engineer moo is joining is raising the glass? Okay? This
Speaker 2: is four self titled for four yeah, four lend. It's
Speaker 2: for I Am Sasha Fair, It's for I Am Sasha Fears.
Speaker 2: It's for renaissance, of course, renaissance. And let's even say
Speaker 2: b DA, let's even say dangerously in love.
Speaker 1: Let's say it's all. It's the full discography. This goes
Speaker 1: out to the writings on the wall. The writing has
Speaker 1: been on the wall. This goes out to Survivor. This
Speaker 1: is twenty five years in the making Beyonce Album of
Speaker 1: the Year Winner, and it feels good and it was
Speaker 1: when the world needed it the most.
Speaker 2: Cheers. We'll see you at the Rodeo Chitlin Circuit tour
Speaker 2: last night was this crazy reminder to me, I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean, unless some people have this tidbit at the
Speaker 2: back of their head, I'm like, oh my god, not
Speaker 2: since the Miseducation of Lauren Hill.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's not even about just like her
Speaker 1: not deserving it. It's about like, it's about so much more.
Speaker 1: You could just tell everyone in the room was feeling,
Speaker 1: not even just a wrong being righted, but just like
Speaker 1: that is the person that is the bar for everyone
Speaker 1: in the room, and she should be up there at
Speaker 1: the at the finale of that evening. M Finally, and
Speaker 1: the way that she was genuinely surprised about country album.
Speaker 1: You knew that was a that was a meme coming
Speaker 1: like the asteroid and don't look up. It was headed
Speaker 1: our way. And I've seen so many great artists online
Speaker 1: do things with that, and great meaning artistry happening from
Speaker 1: these Grammys. I have to say, lots of visuals. We
Speaker 1: have a very visual pop star crowd right now. They're
Speaker 1: they're giving us a lot to look at. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: feels nice. M hmm.
Speaker 2: I do want to shout out the heroes and as
Speaker 2: they call themselves heroes who were the firefighters, and especially
Speaker 2: Miss Mama who weeks ago was engulfed in flames, saving lives, rest,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to put out these fires.
Speaker 1: Was this the one who actually said the name of
Speaker 1: the album?
Speaker 2: She said the name of the album, but she she
Speaker 2: was giving me something close to an adel Deza moment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because she with her full chest and conviction, a hero,
Speaker 2: a hero hiro. I clapped in my room alone when
Speaker 2: she so confidently.
Speaker 1: Said this was the moment we were waiting for.
Speaker 2: At the end of this huge, touching, amazing culmination of
Speaker 2: the night which was to help rebuild La after these fires.
Speaker 2: They passed it on to her and she goes and
Speaker 2: she's about to roll out the nominees. Go to that package.
Speaker 2: She goes, and now the nominee, nominee for album of
Speaker 2: the year. And I said, Miss Mama, the nominee for
Speaker 2: album of the year.
Speaker 1: Because she knew only one really mattered. It's that and
Speaker 1: then the only one would ultimately be the winner. And
Speaker 1: that's something that she was thinking about that we weren't
Speaker 1: are there even nominees when one's gonna win? Think about that.
Speaker 2: Think about that? And she opens up that envelope, she gasps,
Speaker 2: holds it to her chest, holds it to her chest,
Speaker 2: then says the words cardboard cut, cowboy carter, cardboard carter
Speaker 2: carboock cowboy carter.
Speaker 1: This wi woman had not corrected. I wish we had
Speaker 1: gotten cardboard counter, carbockkouder cardboard counter. Title of that cardboard counter,
Speaker 1: cardboard counter.
Speaker 2: That is the title that I'm not being I'm not
Speaker 2: being facetious here. She was incredible.
Speaker 1: No, she had the star energy that everyone in the
Speaker 1: room wishes they had.
Speaker 2: This woman was saying goodbye to her family every day
Speaker 2: to fight these fucking fires. Yep, we just need to
Speaker 2: put that on TV more. That's all at Award shows
Speaker 2: bring out real people.
Speaker 1: In a real way. The entire night was a perfect
Speaker 1: balance of acknowledging obviously the trauma that everyone has been
Speaker 1: through and the fear that people have, but also the
Speaker 1: little moments of levity, like I loved when I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's obviously devastating, this is the reality that we
Speaker 1: even have to have this. But the fact is, like
Speaker 1: there was a couple of mons where they show people
Speaker 1: going through rubbish and like finding wedding rings or those
Speaker 1: little moments of hope. I mean they probably raised a
Speaker 1: lot of money. They said seven million. At that one
Speaker 1: point in the show, I was moved to donate. Everyone
Speaker 1: should donate. I mean, it was, it was. It was
Speaker 1: a really well balanced evening in a time that feels
Speaker 1: so fucking messed up. And obviously so much has been
Speaker 1: going on in the past couple weeks, and we, by
Speaker 1: the way, just want to affirm our solidarity with the
Speaker 1: trans community and just make sure that everyone knows that
Speaker 1: we got there back because what's going on is so
Speaker 1: fucked up. But it was great to see so many
Speaker 1: people standing up using their voices in a time that
Speaker 1: feels weird because it feels like we're letting one person
Speaker 1: control everything. And I'm not talking about Trump. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Elon fucking Musk. I just watched like this crazy
Speaker 1: YouTube video with Jasmine Crockett before I got on here.
Speaker 1: The vibes are so all over the place because Beyonce's
Speaker 1: album of the Year, but Elon's taking over the world.
Speaker 1: It's at a fever pitch right now.
Speaker 2: It's just crazy easy that you have a Best New
Speaker 2: Artist winner say something, speak so cogently and directly to
Speaker 2: this like real issue that so many people, not even
Speaker 2: just musicians, so many people understand. And meanwhile it's all
Speaker 2: these headlines being like the Democrats don't have a message.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, what the fuck, what the fuck are
Speaker 2: you do? It's right there. It's crazy. Then, like this
Speaker 2: queer girl is reading from her mole skeine or from
Speaker 2: her life term or whatever. Yeah, speaking to the people
Speaker 2: in a way that like is so invigorating and so
Speaker 2: validating and tragic and dark and all of these things.
Speaker 2: But meanwhile there's like a messaging issue for like this horrible, horrible,
Speaker 2: dysfunctional party. It's it's so crazy. I mean, yes, like
Speaker 2: there was something about last night the Grammys that was
Speaker 2: life and beautiful and communal and all these things, but
Speaker 2: it also sadly felt like ensconced in that space, yes only,
Speaker 2: and like we just need we need to sort of
Speaker 2: let that out, We need to ventilate that that whole vibe.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I sound like a fucking idiot
Speaker 2: saying this, but like, no, I agree, I mean that's
Speaker 2: what that's what I want.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking about the entire time. I
Speaker 1: was just like, it's so crazy to hear these attacks
Speaker 1: on DEI whish. I can't even believe, like is an
Speaker 1: acronym that we're like discussing in this in this way like.
Speaker 2: A slur, Just say any slur.
Speaker 1: It's like a given that obviously diversity strengthens everything, period,
Speaker 1: our country, our world, period. You're watching this night, it's
Speaker 1: like even on a vibe check alone, if you're at
Speaker 1: home watching that, you're not you're not questioning things a
Speaker 1: little bit. Like I'm so happy that they didn't make
Speaker 1: explicit mention of you know, Trump or whatever, because then
Speaker 1: he would have felt the need to like pick on
Speaker 1: people or getting to fight with this you know, award
Speaker 1: show as it were. He'll like he loves to just
Speaker 1: like feud with him as if they're individuals. But it's
Speaker 1: just crazy that we can hold both right now. It's
Speaker 1: wild that people can't see that there is a truth
Speaker 1: in a light. I don't know, it is wild.
Speaker 2: I went a little crazy as the night went on,
Speaker 2: as they were wrapping the evening around the fires, Yeah,
Speaker 2: which they should have and I think they executed that
Speaker 2: beautifully and the objective was met, which was money was raised.
Speaker 2: The other piece of that that was missing I thought
Speaker 2: was why aren't you acknowledging that this is climate change. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like why are we afraid to acknowledge this? Which is
Speaker 2: why when Gaga finally says trans people are not invisible,
Speaker 2: I burst into tears because I just I was just
Speaker 2: holding this. There was just this tension the entire time
Speaker 2: of like, so we're just not going to like talk
Speaker 2: about any of this, We're not going to acknowledge how
Speaker 2: everything is fucking is the bleakest it's been in a
Speaker 2: long time. Yeah, there are all these different forces at
Speaker 2: play and all these different whims and so many things
Speaker 2: that like are beyond comprehension. But there was just something
Speaker 2: like fine, like finally some valve was like yeah, and
Speaker 2: a little bit when someone acknowledges like the way that
Speaker 2: the industry is so fucking crazy in terms of developing artists,
Speaker 2: the way our current attitude towards transgender people is unacceptable, inhumane,
Speaker 2: is inhumane, just full stop, Like yes, Gaga, thank you,
Speaker 2: like truly, this is why this is why I'm like
Speaker 2: we energized on Gaga, not just because of Abracadabra, but
Speaker 2: because it's like, wow, she's at an award show. She
Speaker 2: is like using this platform in the way that is
Speaker 2: has always been true.
Speaker 1: To her as a leader, as a real leader, as
Speaker 1: a true leader and a true ally and a true
Speaker 1: icon to the queer community. And she knew that this
Speaker 1: was I mean, not that she needs an opportunity, she knews,
Speaker 1: This is no, she knew this was her duty to
Speaker 1: do that, and it is so real. And then for
Speaker 1: her to release that song and it's not meaningful because
Speaker 1: of this, because it's meaningful on its own merits, because
Speaker 1: the song is so great and it's just so exciting
Speaker 1: and it's so Gaga, but also it does call back
Speaker 1: to a time in her career which felt like we
Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about the world hugging us back,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was giving that
Speaker 1: born this way vibe, that those kinds of sounds like
Speaker 1: it was so it was like a hug. It was
Speaker 1: like a sweaty, euphoric molly hug from Lady Gaga towards
Speaker 1: the queer community. And we fucking needed that. And I
Speaker 1: again was this is I guess another moment from the telecast,
Speaker 1: which I guess we're considering it a part of it.
Speaker 1: But like I was up out of my chair, I
Speaker 1: could not sit down last night watching these Grammys. I
Speaker 1: really couldn't. It was just it's so fitting too, to
Speaker 1: come at the end of a musical year that was
Speaker 1: so honestly important because it was a one constant throughout
Speaker 1: this year was that music, you know, popular music. While
Speaker 1: we can have problems with the industry aspects of it,
Speaker 1: it really was a salve all year. And it felt
Speaker 1: like you saw the people in that room getting the
Speaker 1: credit and having some fun together that had really been
Speaker 1: there in our ears all year. And to put it,
Speaker 1: like in super simple terms, but it just felt good
Speaker 1: and for her to do that was yes, a moment
Speaker 1: that was so necessary.
Speaker 2: Thankful for the cuts into the audience, like, whoever's in
Speaker 2: the control room, Bravo, bravo, jam you were jamming, you
Speaker 2: were jamming. The cuts to Taylor were not too excessive.
Speaker 2: Let that girl dance in pe.
Speaker 1: I love Taylor Swift at that award show because you
Speaker 1: know what, she's kicking back those champagne flutes she is
Speaker 1: putting on Janelle monae'st keeping it on all night. She's
Speaker 1: dancing around because I guess for her, it's like she
Speaker 1: might as well have fucking fun. Of course, she knows
Speaker 1: the entire world is gonna judge her anyway. Sure, I'll
Speaker 1: be the only one standing up good. I hope I
Speaker 1: can get to a place in my life where I
Speaker 1: can go anywhere and I want to dance. I do it.
Speaker 1: That's what I'll say. I hope I dance. In the
Speaker 1: words of Leanne Womack, I'm repurposing the Queen. But I
Speaker 1: hope I dance.
Speaker 2: Or how about you flip it and go you hope
Speaker 2: I dance? Make it a command?
Speaker 1: How about we flip it and reverse it. We hope
Speaker 1: we dance, waite, that's the title of app We hope.
Speaker 2: We hope we dance.
Speaker 1: That's actually good. We hope we did. For Gaga, the
Speaker 1: category is dance or die.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, But we just have to give a shout out
Speaker 2: to miss cardboard powder.
Speaker 1: Cardboard powder, is it? I mean, that was a great
Speaker 1: moment in time and the fact that like no one, no,
Speaker 1: there was no little titters, there was no little after
Speaker 1: we're the only idiots that are making an issue of it.
Speaker 1: But Beyonce just clean one cardboard cardier.
Speaker 2: Just to finally put appeared on this. We need to say,
Speaker 2: Captain Sheila Keller Herberkoh, you are truly a legend. You
Speaker 2: were perfect and now the nominee for Album of the Year.
Speaker 2: It just brings me joy. I'm truly I just have
Speaker 2: to make myself clear. I'm not making fun of this person. No,
Speaker 2: I just that brought me joy. I'm like, this is
Speaker 2: this is who we need to uplift to me.
Speaker 1: I was like, my whole thing was like this feels
Speaker 1: like Central Casting, La Firefighters. I'm like, this woman is everything.
Speaker 1: She's holding the space.
Speaker 2: Her hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the hair was perfect. It was kind of giving
Speaker 1: a throwback. It was kind of giving you know, late eighties,
Speaker 1: early nineties country woman.
Speaker 2: It was giving jud It's giving Judd and I was saying,
Speaker 2: it's giving Judd meets Ava Max on even sides.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Or do I just just had one one side of
Speaker 2: the hair over the shoulder and the other behind. But
Speaker 2: I did think of my girl Ava.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know why I thought it
Speaker 1: was giving jud But you know what I'm saying, It's.
Speaker 2: Like, no, it is Jud And no, I totally know
Speaker 2: what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a nod here. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: not only were most of the musical acts album of
Speaker 1: the Year agoing country. I think so was La firefightress
Speaker 1: Hiro Hiero.
Speaker 2: I do want to talk about this idea of righting
Speaker 2: wrongs because I agree with that, and I also think
Speaker 2: did we overcorrect by having these poor people from the
Speaker 2: academy be forced to apologize publicly to the weekend.
Speaker 1: I think that if they felt they needed to do that,
Speaker 1: then it's good that they did that, because clearly there
Speaker 1: was something wrong. I mean clearly, yeah, I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: we have to give credit. Also, Sabrina took home too,
Speaker 1: and I was confronted a little bit in some group
Speaker 1: chats about people being like really espresso for pop vocal performance.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something about that tasty little cookie
Speaker 1: voice you hop on the track. That song is a
Speaker 1: hit because of her vocal. It is a warm little
Speaker 1: summer coup. And just because a vocal is not rangy
Speaker 1: does not mean it doesn't have artistic value.
Speaker 2: It is an artistic choice to whisper like this on
Speaker 2: a song.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is performance.
Speaker 2: So I guess you can't stand Lana anymore if you
Speaker 2: took issue with this this one. A coup is a choice.
Speaker 1: A coup is a choice that's actually real. Culture number
Speaker 1: six is a choice and you know that one will
Speaker 1: be in the book, and now after every rule of culture,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to signify whether or not it's going
Speaker 1: to be in the book, which is officially.
Speaker 2: Happening absolutely, Sabrina. I thought I did not know the
Speaker 2: reference until the next day that it was Goldie Han.
Speaker 1: It was a Goldie reference.
Speaker 2: Love that actually she is. That's the thing. I'm like,
Speaker 2: the death beca thing, like it's all coming together.
Speaker 1: Really telegenic doesn't really cover it, huh, because it's another
Speaker 1: thing to hit the spot where you're supposed to stand,
Speaker 1: have the light hit you and bring joy to the world.
Speaker 1: It's another thing too. How do I put this so
Speaker 1: much control over the movement in her eyes? Like beep beep,
Speaker 1: She's like a little cartoon cookie.
Speaker 2: I want to buy it out quite frankly, Well, you know,
Speaker 2: there is this thing going on where people are commenting
Speaker 2: on a wheel and maybe a TikTok as well of
Speaker 2: miss Adie Bryan on Seth Myers recently, and a lot
Speaker 2: of the comments blowing up saying, oh my god, she
Speaker 2: looks just like Sabrina Carpenter. And I think it's in
Speaker 2: the eyes, it's in the nose, it's in the beautiful lips.
Speaker 2: But the eyes really do have it. As they say,
Speaker 2: if you, if you are someone who has control over
Speaker 2: wherey eyes beep in boop, you are made in the shade.
Speaker 1: You're made in the shade, and you're made for TV
Speaker 1: and film. And what I love to about Sabrina's performance
Speaker 1: I love this. She comes out does espresso, does please,
Speaker 1: please please, and then goes back to espresso espresso, like
Speaker 1: as if to comment on No, the song's never over.
Speaker 1: This is never over. This is a movement, not a moment.
Speaker 2: This was an earworm, a monoculture song when people said
Speaker 2: that those weren't possible anymore.
Speaker 1: What do you think was in her flask all night?
Speaker 2: Hard to say. I mean, she was really loving sipping
Speaker 2: from it and I wanna set, but she kept her
Speaker 2: composure in the in a way that makes me go,
Speaker 2: maybe she's just doing a fun little performance.
Speaker 1: I think it was a Jennifer Piedranti Malibu and Diet.
Speaker 2: Not Jennifer Pedranti.
Speaker 1: You heard what I said, My girl gives Jennifer Pedranti. Okay,
Speaker 1: Sabrina and Jennifer Pandranti. I want to see that actors
Speaker 1: on actors.
Speaker 2: I want to say, speaking of Sabrina, let's tie this
Speaker 2: into producer that you're non classical goes to Dan Nigro yep,
Speaker 2: who is apparently working with Sabrina.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2: Does that maybe add something explanatory to this little bit
Speaker 2: of gossip that Sabrina and Olivia were chit chatting last.
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, if you don't think I
Speaker 1: scrutinized the video of them hugging, you'd be deeply mistaken.
Speaker 1: Was there a hug, There is a big hug. There
Speaker 1: was happy chatter. Because I'll tell you what the recording Academy,
Speaker 1: the literal actual recording Academy does is they put those
Speaker 1: reaction shots up, like the crowd footage. No one's safe,
Speaker 1: like Bruno Mars reacts to Doci's performance, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like this, this, that, And I was like,
Speaker 1: this is so funny of them to just dive in
Speaker 1: in this way and double dip in, not just like
Speaker 1: a you know, we're officially like giving quality honors and
Speaker 1: then we're also dipping into the celebrity aspect of it.
Speaker 1: But they had me and I will say can confirm
Speaker 1: it seems good between Sabrina and Olivia and I think
Speaker 1: they might do Lost Coach together. Just kidding. Let's start
Speaker 1: the rumor.
Speaker 2: Well, the end game of this is collab. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: The endgame is they take this podcast from us. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: they would be better and we can be pop Asian
Speaker 1: in a blonde, Asian in a blonde. Wait, we really
Speaker 1: are Olivia and Sabrina in a way and Asian in
Speaker 1: a blond.
Speaker 2: I want to say that. On the note of the Grammys,
Speaker 2: the Recording Academy kind of putting grists for the mill
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: Oh you ate that grist for the mill girl, Where
Speaker 1: does that have its origins?
Speaker 2: I think from mills. I think from mill work.
Speaker 1: Do you hear just hear my Vegas laugh horn. We
Speaker 1: haven't even touched on Vegas. Guys.
Speaker 2: We will get to it because there's a couple more
Speaker 2: big things we need to talk about. We need We
Speaker 2: visited Aberkadabra first of all. Yeah, we're not done with Abracadaboro.
Speaker 1: We haven't even picked up the wand don't oh the
Speaker 1: hat costuous mom night. Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, christoer the mill real quick.
Speaker 1: It's like the Academy like Opra, are you fucking kidding me.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna jumping ahead. Go say what you
Speaker 1: need to say to the Recording Academy.
Speaker 2: Remember like when they were tweeting the day before, like
Speaker 2: this person sitting with this person. Yeah, like that huge
Speaker 2: list of like oh why are they doing this because
Speaker 2: it's getting us excited because they knew that the night
Speaker 2: would be hugely eventful and interesting, and I thank them.
Speaker 1: There was a photo and it's going around as the
Speaker 1: Powerpuff Girls of Sabrina Carvert's chapelone and Billie Eilish all
Speaker 1: together looking like a three legends and slaves. And I
Speaker 1: just wanted Olivia in there. I wanted to get my
Speaker 1: girl in there. I wanted four. I wanted that picture
Speaker 1: of Kesha, Nicki Minaj, Katy Perry, Yeah, and Rihanna redone right.
Speaker 2: It is also giving Charlie's angels and it does does
Speaker 2: that make Olivia the Demi Moore?
Speaker 1: You know what I just all I'm saying is I
Speaker 1: it seemed united in there, even like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I screwinized these videos so much, but
Speaker 1: the Recording Academy posted them like even just sort of
Speaker 1: you know, the girls walking by each other. It seemed
Speaker 1: civil in there, and they knew they knew the world
Speaker 1: needed to see harmony.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put this out there, okay, And I
Speaker 2: think this is somewhat responsible of me. And I think
Speaker 2: this this, this speaks to something and a subsession that
Speaker 2: we have around these narratives that we form around these people. Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you firsthand, these people like each other. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: they just they just like each other. And I can
Speaker 2: tell you primary sources. I'm not gonna tell you which,
Speaker 2: but you can get us. At the end of the day,
Speaker 2: these people respect and love each other and they're all
Speaker 2: in this together, all right.
Speaker 1: And the same is true with podcasters. Put your weapons down,
Speaker 1: put your weapons down. Put you and because let me
Speaker 1: say something, stop with all this feud about podcasters. Stop
Speaker 1: with this stuff, with the feud about Matt bow Kat
Speaker 1: Pat Joel Kim, Stop with Dak Shepherd. Y'all are always
Speaker 1: putting us in a feud with Dak Sheppard. And can
Speaker 1: we just say we love the man and we all
Speaker 1: know each other, Okay, we hang out, We respect each
Speaker 1: other as artists.
Speaker 2: Wait, Dan I Grew, I'm just saying that is I
Speaker 2: mean that's like an anointing that I think is really
Speaker 2: really cool and I liked his earring. Yes, and Amy
Speaker 2: Allen Songwriting of the Year, A Songwriter of the Year classical,
Speaker 2: this woman Short and Sweet, all the big tracks on
Speaker 2: Short and Sweet along with Hillie Michaels. Yeah, we love
Speaker 2: Julie Michaels. I think she was. She was there last night,
Speaker 2: looked so happy, looked just so proud to represent all
Speaker 2: the work that she's done, but especially in Short and Sweet.
Speaker 2: But Amy Allen Apata with Rose and Bruno behind that
Speaker 2: and was on sky Riley Smile too. She wrote all
Speaker 2: the Smile two tracks.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, people are really living for that.
Speaker 2: Like this girl is one to watch.
Speaker 1: She's there. I mean, she's the Grammy winner first somewhere
Speaker 1: end of the year. And also another thing, the Billie
Speaker 1: of it all. Somebody in this situation was gonna have
Speaker 1: like a off night in terms of taking things totally.
Speaker 1: But the good news is for Billie Eilish she has
Speaker 1: nine nine, She has two Academy Awards, and I think
Speaker 1: that isn't she a When she was a nominee for
Speaker 1: Most Awards Award for Most Awards with the Culture Award.
Speaker 2: So she's nominated for a Nowcca, she's good on the hardware,
Speaker 2: She's really good on the Harvard.
Speaker 1: But it is she's got hardware, you know, coming out
Speaker 1: of her booty.
Speaker 2: It's just because that is perhaps her best album and
Speaker 2: to have no, I get it, I totally get it. No,
Speaker 2: but you're right, it's like, what would we have traded?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I would have made a trade. I can picture trade.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say, Song of the Year, song of
Speaker 1: the year, give it to Billie Eilish if she's gonna
Speaker 1: go home empty handed everywhere else.
Speaker 2: No, No, no Record of the Year, because song of
Speaker 2: the Year is definitely not like us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm one of them. I mean so if you're
Speaker 1: looking at it in terms of songwriting, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: the reason why not like us is as high impact
Speaker 1: is because of the writing.
Speaker 2: But Record of the Year I'm just saying, like, just
Speaker 2: production wise, so come on.
Speaker 1: That would be my trade just And that's just in
Speaker 1: a world where it's less fun when those awards are
Speaker 1: won by one.
Speaker 2: Song totally, and also in categories filled with these amazing
Speaker 2: we're stacked with these women like it all gets split
Speaker 2: and Kendrick doesn'tmerge out of that victorious which sligh.
Speaker 1: I was a little worried for Chapel there when somebody
Speaker 1: looked like it was gonna be a Sabrina sweep, I
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, as much as I live and
Speaker 1: die for Sabrina, I was like, we can't. We have
Speaker 1: to have Chapel up there getting something, especially after that performance.
Speaker 1: Best New Artist is the perfect award for her to win,
Speaker 1: because not only is she the most high impact, you know,
Speaker 1: exciting new star of the year critically and commercially, I
Speaker 1: would you know, wager to say, but also the way
Speaker 1: that she changes the way we talk about mm hmm them,
Speaker 1: and the way that the just the way she's demanded respect.
Speaker 1: The way that she commanded the room last night. She
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost like she was being given, not licensed,
Speaker 1: but the fact that everyone in that room was down
Speaker 1: to stand up and applot and she had Taylor fucking
Speaker 1: Swift standing up and applauding that sentiment that is huge.
Speaker 2: It's a major Taylor's always gonna ride for. Like the work. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what Chapa was saying was the work should not devastate
Speaker 2: us in this and it's because of the rect It's
Speaker 2: because of the industry. Yeah, like this girl got fucking
Speaker 2: drop Like it's that's another like slight similarity to Gaga,
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, these are both huge visionary artists,
Speaker 2: queer artists who were fucked over by this business.
Speaker 1: The insight into the music industry that I do have,
Speaker 1: I will say, it's shocking when you realize how hard
Speaker 1: it is to make money, When you realize how much
Speaker 1: work goes into this stuff, it would shock you. It
Speaker 1: is so much harder. It's incomparable to any other section
Speaker 1: of the entertainment industry that I could see, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like speaking of someone who's written, acted
Speaker 1: and done the music and touring thing, like you would
Speaker 1: have to be huge to make even a little bit
Speaker 1: of money just doing recorded music. It is a harsh
Speaker 1: reality of that, and for her to get up there
Speaker 1: and do that, especially with the narrative that she's had,
Speaker 1: they should take it seriously. They should take it very seriously.
Speaker 2: It's just a class issue that she spoke to.
Speaker 1: You are so right when you said that, because of course,
Speaker 1: people who work hard four systems that can reward them
Speaker 1: with basic human dignity should be given that dignity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy speaking of people who put in the
Speaker 2: work to change something, hopefully institutionally. Charlie XCX finally a
Speaker 2: Grammy winner. Yeah, so incredible to think because she literally
Speaker 2: has a song about how she goes to the Grammys
Speaker 2: to be a terrorist. Basically, yeah, like incredible. This is
Speaker 2: someone who like carved her own path, had her own
Speaker 2: vision for what she was gonna do, dabbles between being
Speaker 2: a quote unquote mainstream pop artist, and then has like
Speaker 2: swung the pendulum in such a crazy incredible way that
Speaker 2: to see her finally get rewarded in this way and
Speaker 2: to see her have this celebratory victory lap at the
Speaker 2: Grammys in a way that's like a little bit like gratuitous,
Speaker 2: a little bit like I even was clutching my pearls
Speaker 2: a little bit like, oh, this is a lot, But
Speaker 2: like by the end of it, I was like, that's
Speaker 2: exactly what it should have been.
Speaker 1: It was uncompromising, which is what's been so incredible about her.
Speaker 1: It was brat it was it was the last, not
Speaker 1: the last, because who's who's the fucking say, But it
Speaker 1: was an exclamation point on that whole fucking album cycle
Speaker 1: because guess what, even if you're still even if you're
Speaker 1: one of those people out there who's like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: so over brat, like blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: She makes drug you seem uncool. That's kind of built
Speaker 2: into her her view on this, which is this is
Speaker 2: gonna rub someone the wrong way no matter what, no
Speaker 2: matter what time in the cycle of and the development
Speaker 2: of this era. For me, quote unquote, it's kind of bulletproof.
Speaker 2: And I think it's brilliant absolutely. I mean, I still
Speaker 2: stand that it was the album of the year culturally.
Speaker 2: I will always think that, Yes, yes, I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1: If the trade is that Beyonce gets that moment for
Speaker 1: what is essentially a career of greatness, then everything is
Speaker 1: right with the world. But they knew it too, that
Speaker 1: that was the thing that we would want to end
Speaker 1: the show on because it was the last performance. And
Speaker 1: even if Beyonce took the award, Charlie XCIX punched us
Speaker 1: in the fucking face and that's exactly what should have happened,
Speaker 1: and her say maybe at the end of it, Happy birthday,
Speaker 1: Julia Fox on the Grammy Awards. I love it. That
Speaker 1: was Yeah, great programming, great programming. When are we like
Speaker 1: this about any award show when.
Speaker 2: No, I know, truly this is this is a rare
Speaker 2: moment and we should see it and we should live
Speaker 2: in this for as long as possible. Charlie is the
Speaker 2: fourth woman, fourth solo female artist who win Best Dance
Speaker 2: Electronic Album after Madonna, Gaga, Beyonce. Crazy. She joins those people.
Speaker 2: It's crazily a category dominated by like by men apx
Speaker 2: twin or male acts, daftpun chemical brothers, girle xpread again
Speaker 2: which love to those people, but it is so weird
Speaker 2: that it's like you would think that women would dominate that.
Speaker 2: But let's see if it shifts at all, like that
Speaker 2: seems to be like a fertile ground. Even still, I'm
Speaker 2: I will never tire of a of a girly pop
Speaker 2: or even a Kia putting out a dance electronic album.
Speaker 1: No, I mean the first of all, can I just say,
Speaker 1: Charlie and Gaga are gonna be a Coachella. It's good,
Speaker 1: and that's just that's it's so soon and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be so fucking good. Like now, let's talk about Africa, dabber,
Speaker 1: because I was texting you guys, we were in the
Speaker 1: group chat text thing and I had, you know, walked
Speaker 1: away from the TV for a second because I figured,
Speaker 1: you know, commercial break, and I just remember looking over
Speaker 1: and seeing her in that fucking red spiked get up
Speaker 1: and knowing that mother Monster was present and speaking. She
Speaker 1: tapped on that mic and I just texted, you guys, guys,
Speaker 1: look at the TV and.
Speaker 2: We trust me. I was already looking, but I'd like you.
Speaker 2: I turned away for a second and then I heard
Speaker 2: her say the category is dance or Die, and I
Speaker 2: was like, something's happening, Well, you know.
Speaker 1: What is I know Jared, and I know Jared had
Speaker 1: muted the TV because he does that during commercials Now.
Speaker 1: I just needed everyone to be on the same page
Speaker 1: that she was. I thought it was just going to
Speaker 1: be a clip. I thought it was just going to
Speaker 1: be you know, maybe fifteen seconds and it to announce
Speaker 1: that there was a new single. It was the entire
Speaker 1: video and then presented by MasterCard at the end. Was
Speaker 1: my laugh. I did actually collapse with laughter. But wow,
Speaker 1: the visuals they were exciting the entire time. She looks insane,
Speaker 1: the post chorus bo the post chorus bruh are you?
Speaker 1: And now it's making me love disease even more, and
Speaker 1: we said this way it came out that we could
Speaker 1: not wait to hear it in context. It is going
Speaker 1: to be so good in contact with the way that
Speaker 1: song starts. When you hear this other song, It's just
Speaker 1: it's gonna breathe. It's gonna really feel very good live.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be very good. Mayhem is going to
Speaker 1: be extremely canon.
Speaker 2: She does a thirty minute extended interview with Rolling Stone
Speaker 2: about just with all the stems of disease she's playing
Speaker 2: you the snare, the kick, the bass, the all the vocals,
Speaker 2: all the everything in the stack. It's like, go and
Speaker 2: listen to this because it will open up the entire
Speaker 2: world of disease for you, and you will understand it
Speaker 2: to be one of the best Gaga songs. Just trust not.
Speaker 1: Since the BTS feature out on the Substance has there
Speaker 1: been a thirty minute explainer that's yes, so necessary. We
Speaker 1: haven't seen this in weeks. It's been weeks since we've
Speaker 1: seen this.
Speaker 2: I just think Mayhem is gonna be a gaggy time
Speaker 2: for many reasons. That's all we can say.
Speaker 1: I mean, she said, she said, I have long dreamed
Speaker 1: of a time, a week day of hosting a dance
Speaker 1: party in the desert. I have long dreamed, and then
Speaker 1: you do hear that dream in this music. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is this is meant to be amongst the stars,
Speaker 1: the skies and the sands.
Speaker 2: This is what's going on in my life. I tragically
Speaker 2: can only make it to Sunday night of weekend one.
Speaker 2: I am now extending my stay in California so that
Speaker 2: I can so that I cannot possibly miss Friday Weekend
Speaker 2: two when Gaga goes up.
Speaker 1: I think it's worth it. I think you have to absolutely.
Speaker 2: No, are you kidding me? I have to see her,
Speaker 2: I ask what.
Speaker 1: She's my favorite.
Speaker 2: I love her so much. I burst into your last night.
Speaker 2: I burst into here's when you said trans people are
Speaker 2: not invisible. I was like, this, this this woman, this
Speaker 2: woman has been so important to us. To understand you
Speaker 2: of course you do.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just we need to thank her. It's
Speaker 1: not to be missed. This is not going to be
Speaker 1: And also just her getting carried in her goofy face
Speaker 1: when she's like what how do you even describe? It's
Speaker 1: when she sent her frame in the video and there
Speaker 1: she's seated and she's in her chair, just like having
Speaker 1: a spasm. I'm like, yeah, this is the Gaga that
Speaker 1: It's funny because she did come back with Chromatica. She
Speaker 1: gave dance pop again and all this stuff about like,
Speaker 1: you know, her return to the dance war. We we've
Speaker 1: talked about it, like we've been like, excuse me, knock knock.
Speaker 1: We just got back from our long trip to Chromatica.
Speaker 1: It we got on a spaceship and went to Chromatica.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you don't remember this. You threw
Speaker 1: up Mark. You threw up on the spaceship Mark. Mark
Speaker 1: is not Kyle.
Speaker 2: But now now does it? Does it do anything for
Speaker 2: you that there are these visuals that are I mean absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't know, like Chromatica was actually speaking
Speaker 1: to art pop a little bit in a way that
Speaker 1: I kind of loved. It was more it was living
Speaker 1: in a more r poppy space for me. I don't
Speaker 1: know how to describe it other than like brighter. Like
Speaker 1: when you saw Stupid Love you were like, Okay, you
Speaker 1: know this is but this is dark, spooky, haunted house. Gaga.
Speaker 1: I've wanted to go back to this haunted house. I
Speaker 1: liked it.
Speaker 2: You've long wanted to go back to this haunted house.
Speaker 1: I'd like the drama, and the Chromatica had drama of course.
Speaker 1: I mean those instrumentals that Chromatica won two and three
Speaker 1: like that broke up the album. It was there. But
Speaker 1: there's a vocal drama in what she's doing here, and
Speaker 1: there is a lot of characterization that is new, which
Speaker 1: is really exciting to hear from her, like this this
Speaker 1: vocal fry that she is using, but it's like placed differently,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about? Right like that? Absolutely, no,
Speaker 1: he's made discoveries vocally.
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting that you say Chromatica is in dialogue
Speaker 2: with art pop, because I am getting the sense that
Speaker 2: Mayhem is in many ways also in dialogue with art
Speaker 2: pop because Abraca Dabra does remind me, does seem to
Speaker 2: be a child between Aura and Venus.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can definitely feel that. For me, it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's more like but it is giving fame Monster,
Speaker 1: not Sisa. It's some Swine. But Swine was also art pop.
Speaker 2: So you are right, interesting, very interesting. I think what
Speaker 2: gave me chills to think about was if this is
Speaker 2: hearkening back to the darker tracks of Born this way
Speaker 2: and The Fame Monster. I thought, well, The Fame Monster
Speaker 2: wasn't even a full length fucking album, and if we're
Speaker 2: about to get that, and I think I love that
Speaker 2: it's ending on Die with a smile, by the way. Personally,
Speaker 2: I think it will fit, it will work in the sequence.
Speaker 2: I just think this is, this is, this is going
Speaker 2: to be a hugely important album for us, for many people.
Speaker 2: Just just I just have a feeling. She is having fun,
Speaker 2: she is confident, she's doing stuff. She's gonna be at
Speaker 2: the SNL February fourteenth show at Radio City. I cannot
Speaker 2: wait to see her.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be amazing. Last time we saw her radio
Speaker 1: City was the Tony Bennett Show, that iconic Tony bentche.
Speaker 2: Iconic Tony Bent show. I have some intel on what
Speaker 2: she might be doing at this show. And it's gonna
Speaker 2: be fun. It's gonna be fun. That's all I can say.
Speaker 1: March seventh, I mean that's two days half my birthday.
Speaker 1: This is the birthday gift. This is Piscy season. Gaga
Speaker 1: you know doesn't feel Pisces. It's not giving that, but
Speaker 1: just know that it will it will be meaningful.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's Pisc's Season for You, and it's a
Speaker 2: Scorpio album for me. Perhaps I would say not not
Speaker 2: to center ourselves in this.
Speaker 1: But I would agree with that deeply.
Speaker 2: Paris Gerbels Bethany Vargas co directing this video with Gaga Bravo.
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be a return to Nick
Speaker 2: Knight because it felt very fame the o de Parthas commercial.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember that where she is
Speaker 2: I do in a dark space and all these muscular
Speaker 2: men are climbing a giant version of herself. There was
Speaker 2: just a lot of parallels. But the narrative of this
Speaker 2: video I think so beautiful to me. It's just her
Speaker 2: and Red. It's a battle between light and dark and
Speaker 2: guess what the light winds, the light winds.
Speaker 1: And also I mean just the fact that like her
Speaker 1: and the dancers are just gathered there so Mother Monster
Speaker 1: can order them to play her little game. Category is
Speaker 1: dance ar Die. They dance for it, and they dance.
Speaker 1: We see the routine, we see the passion, we see
Speaker 1: the dance, and then at the end they look up
Speaker 1: and Mother Monster is looking away, and then she looks
Speaker 1: at the camera as if to say yes, acceptable. And
Speaker 1: the last shot of the video is Gaga on the
Speaker 1: floor looking up like and it's like she's you know,
Speaker 1: she's done her job. She's won.
Speaker 2: She has not died.
Speaker 1: Please mother monster, she can continue on today.
Speaker 2: Well. Gaga has said in the last twenty four hours
Speaker 2: since this video came out that this video is about
Speaker 2: a path forward. Wow, and the only path forward, the
Speaker 2: only alternative to dying is to what dance.
Speaker 1: Category is dance or die.
Speaker 2: I don't care that I'm reading too much into this.
Speaker 2: I really don't care. There is something that is healing
Speaker 2: about me being obsessed with a Lady Gaga song like
Speaker 2: this that we are all obsessed with because she's given
Speaker 2: it to us so many times before. I feel like
Speaker 2: Rain on Me was like one of the only bright
Speaker 2: spots in that lockdown period, Yeah, where we were all
Speaker 2: listening to this song at the same time and it
Speaker 2: felt incredible. I just I can't thank her enough. I
Speaker 2: can't thank this woman enough.
Speaker 1: It's just coming from a very commanding place, and I
Speaker 1: think that's all we really want to do is take
Speaker 1: orders from Gaga, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean?
Speaker 1: That's ultimately what I the only leader that I believe
Speaker 1: in as of right now is Lady Gaga. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: she says dance or die. So that's an easy choice
Speaker 1: for me right personally. But I'm not a nihilist. I'm
Speaker 1: an optimist. You're an optimist, the opposite of a nihilist.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about another Let's talk about Vegas.
Speaker 1: We had fun.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of fun, didn't we.
Speaker 1: We had Shanaia on Friday, we had Mariah on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and we had destruction on Sunday. How did you feel
Speaker 1: getting on the plane from Vegas to New York? Because
Speaker 1: my plane ride from Vegas to LA was.
Speaker 2: Tough and famously that's a quick one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that it's It's really no big deal in
Speaker 1: the eyes of God, right think about this five hour
Speaker 1: flight for me. Willing to think about it, willing to.
Speaker 2: But I do feel comfortable sharing this because it did
Speaker 2: gag me. Okay, and I told you this already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, okay, good. I think I think this. I
Speaker 1: think this is definitely fair game.
Speaker 2: I get on my plane, I have my I have
Speaker 2: my blinders on. Then I see it my foot at
Speaker 2: the foot of my seat, a little bottle of like
Speaker 2: hand sanitizer or something. And I was like, oh, that's
Speaker 2: not mine. I take it up. I go to my
Speaker 2: seat partner next to me, lovely man named Michael. We
Speaker 2: got to chatting. I said, is this excuse me?
Speaker 1: Is this yours?
Speaker 2: He goes no, I turn around, excuse me, is this
Speaker 2: Marishka Hargitay.
Speaker 1: NBC icons on the plane?
Speaker 2: She said, oh, that's my perfume and we shared a laugh.
Speaker 2: She was making jokes with me, does she.
Speaker 1: Reckoni is the queen?
Speaker 2: I did not want to bother her. I think she
Speaker 2: was with her wonderful daughter. And then upon de planing,
Speaker 2: we just exchanged pleasant trees. She was there to see
Speaker 2: me barghetzy Ah, and I was very vulnerable and trade
Speaker 2: with her that I was there too. She was like,
Speaker 2: this is gonna work week. I was like, I was
Speaker 2: there to see Shania Maria and she goes, oh, well,
Speaker 2: of course, so glad I got to share that with There.
Speaker 1: Were like two crowds in Vegas. There was the Nate
Speaker 1: Bargatzi stand up crowd, and there was the Shanaia Mariah crowd.
Speaker 2: There was the Sharia law Sharia lat well, there was
Speaker 2: the Sharia crowd and there what's the Barghetzie pund that
Speaker 2: we can come up with now we can't really Barghetzi, barghetsie,
Speaker 2: Bargetzi laughing, Bargetzi, pargett Te.
Speaker 1: This is why we are not Nate Bargozzi and making
Speaker 1: the pilgrimage to Vegas to see.
Speaker 2: Us, and we can even be clean comics. We gotta
Speaker 2: put dirty words and say hole and.
Speaker 1: Cough and we're saying and cock for laughs. We're out
Speaker 1: here begging on the street. We're destitute comedically saying hole
Speaker 1: and cock for laughs. That we are destatic, comedically pathetic wastes.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we sus Shania on Friday. Here's what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say about the Shania show. Incredible energy from Shanaya. We
Speaker 1: need to get her in a better outfit, guys, she's
Speaker 1: my girl. Was wearing a negligible. She was comfortable, but
Speaker 1: can we get an outfit on her in Vegas? Please
Speaker 1: dazzle us with the outfits. Come on, don't do Shanaya
Speaker 1: like that in a peach negligee.
Speaker 2: Totally.
Speaker 1: She sang, honey, I'm home and I had a hard day.
Speaker 2: But you know, also up up up, can only go
Speaker 2: up from here.
Speaker 1: How is she gonna get us good? How is she
Speaker 1: gonna get you good in a peach neglige and a
Speaker 1: top hat. Get that woman in a better out fit.
Speaker 1: I'm serious, hm hmm. And that's gonna be my brave
Speaker 1: take today. Okay, but because she she gave us a
Speaker 1: performance and the songs are songing, but she was in
Speaker 1: she was in that off but I didn't like for
Speaker 1: too long. And now if it's got a little bit better.
Speaker 1: But this is Las Vegas, this is the boxed theater
Speaker 1: at Planet Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Right, I will say one of the great great songs
Speaker 2: is man I feel like a woman.
Speaker 1: There's no disputing I would have started with it, she
Speaker 1: ended with it. I do think man I feel like
Speaker 1: women at the top would have really got us going.
Speaker 2: But man, I feel like a woman is the defining
Speaker 2: gravity of songs. I would say it is that.
Speaker 1: Man, I feel like woman is the defining gravity of songs.
Speaker 2: It's a war cry. It is that.
Speaker 1: Don't impress me much. I just feel like I can
Speaker 1: never get over the d heightened between Okay, so he's
Speaker 1: got a car. Oh so, okay, so you're a rocket scientist. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so you got a car doesn't work comedically. We need
Speaker 1: Shanaia and UCB sketch one on one.
Speaker 2: So you're saying car rocket scientists, Brad Pitt or car this.
Speaker 1: Here's what I would rather. Here's what I would rather
Speaker 1: in order, I would rather the guy I'm fucking have
Speaker 1: a car. Well, first thing, I would say, even baseline
Speaker 1: living in LA have a car.
Speaker 2: And I don't relate to that because I live in
Speaker 2: New York and most of us take public transportation.
Speaker 1: Right, But okay, so you have a I mean for me,
Speaker 1: it's like car is one thing you can get from
Speaker 1: place to place, like it's not going to be tough
Speaker 1: to see you. Next, I would say, okay, rocket scientists
Speaker 1: then for me, because it's like you're clearly successful, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't know that we can
Speaker 1: talk about a lot of things because I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about rocket science, right, but I like that you're
Speaker 1: engaged in what you do, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Because I don't think you're a rocket scientist by accident.
Speaker 1: I think if you're a rocket scientist, you love rockets
Speaker 1: and everything there about. You applied yourself in this way
Speaker 1: and congratulations. Would rather fuck you than someone that just
Speaker 1: had a car. And then, even though I'm concerned about
Speaker 1: like a high probability of narcissism. I can't deny Brad
Speaker 1: Pitt would be the most desirable thing for me Matt
Speaker 1: Rogers out of those things. So that's the order I
Speaker 1: think it should go, because I think the dick would
Speaker 1: be so good that the narcissism wouldn't matter that much.
Speaker 1: And I'm also not positive that Brad Pitt is a narcissist,
Speaker 1: But it's just that he's Brad Pitt, right.
Speaker 2: I mean that woman in France or whatever gave away
Speaker 2: so much money because she thought this guy was him.
Speaker 1: Sure, and I mean people have given away a lot
Speaker 1: more and less. My thing with Brad Pitt is it's
Speaker 1: like we can go there. Yeah, but that would be
Speaker 1: the natural progression for me, And I just think I
Speaker 1: don't think it would be too tough to do it.
Speaker 1: We'd have to look at the verse, but you know,
Speaker 1: we could do it. I imagine we rewrite that don't
Speaker 1: impress Me much, a hugely successful song on this episode.
Speaker 1: We just rewrite it and restructure it. Pitched to her,
Speaker 1: she says.
Speaker 2: No, which she has every right to do.
Speaker 1: Now she trust me. I hope whatever never has to
Speaker 1: know about us. I hope the only word she ever
Speaker 1: says to me is no. I hope I'm starting to
Speaker 1: go shit and I I love it. I hope I
Speaker 1: just hear no, Yeah, that will be fine totally. I
Speaker 1: would say.
Speaker 2: Car, but again I don't relate because need them to
Speaker 2: have a car. Though, I'm going to say something crazy. Okay,
Speaker 2: my order Brad Pitt, because you don't care he's had.
Speaker 2: Of course I care. She's an amazing actor, a talent
Speaker 2: and I looking.
Speaker 1: Guy, A great looking guy, but troubled. I would say
Speaker 1: too much for me, girl, trouble. Let's let's fuck once.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And it do impress me much that it's him, but
Speaker 2: it would be more. It would be more impressive if
Speaker 2: I met you and after you look like Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2: You also have a car in New York City. I say, wow,
Speaker 2: this guy, this guy's is one to watch.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's Brad Pitt, there's then car.
Speaker 2: Car.
Speaker 1: You're saying, rocket scientist is your most desirable the greatest heighten.
Speaker 2: You gotta be really smart?
Speaker 1: Doesn't it mean you have good stroke game?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think maybe I'm a sapio sexual.
Speaker 1: I don't think you are. Hmm, can I say something
Speaker 1: about you. I've never thought you were a sapio sexual
Speaker 1: for one night.
Speaker 2: Now I'm kidding, girl, I am shallow. Really.
Speaker 1: If you are fucking a rocket scientist and the stroke
Speaker 1: game is on ten, we want you to be on
Speaker 1: an episode of Lost Coach. We'll do the voice change
Speaker 1: thing on you. But if you're fucking a rocket scientist,
Speaker 1: who is the best sext of your life or anything
Speaker 1: close to it, please contact us somehow, some way. You'll
Speaker 1: find a way, I'm sure, and don't play games. Don't
Speaker 1: mess around. We don''t fake that you're fucking a rocket scientist,
Speaker 1: and don't try to find someone that is. I'm talking
Speaker 1: to people, and Bowen, I'm sure you agree with me.
Speaker 1: Here we cut the bullshit. If you're fucking a rocket
Speaker 1: scientist and the stroke game is looking like what Dylan
Speaker 1: O'Brien does in the Sun Dance movie. He's in that
Speaker 1: he just won that award for Did you see that?
Speaker 2: Give?
Speaker 1: I did not? Uh, stroke game has to be on
Speaker 1: Dylan O'Brien rocket scientist, then contact Lost Coach. We want
Speaker 1: you to come on now for a full episode. We'll
Speaker 1: do ten minutes.
Speaker 2: I will say if it is the triple crown of
Speaker 2: rocket scientist car Brad Pitt. It's happening if it's all
Speaker 2: if you're all.
Speaker 1: Three oh period. If you're a Brad Pitt, you're a
Speaker 1: rocket scientist, and you have a car, you could fuck
Speaker 1: lost coach.
Speaker 2: Maybe the order doesn't matter at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, because in a world where the thing I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about is song structure, it matters deeply. Of course,
Speaker 1: of course, fine, but it don't impress on me much
Speaker 1: that I have a little sigh come out of my
Speaker 1: body every time. So you got a car happens at
Speaker 1: the end of that song. I mean going into that
Speaker 1: final chorus as excited as I could be, because I
Speaker 1: feel I don't know, I'm waiting.
Speaker 2: Brad Pitt is you're right on a songwriting level, on
Speaker 2: a heightened level. Absolutely, Brad Pitt is the last one
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think you were just I
Speaker 2: think I thought we were just sharing our personal values
Speaker 2: and priorities.
Speaker 1: No, I mean listen, and I think it's important that
Speaker 1: we did because I think it'll affect the songs that
Speaker 1: we write. And I think that now the audience knows
Speaker 1: what to expect from us a little bit better and
Speaker 1: listen if Shanaia's whole thing. And remember she's from like
Speaker 1: a place in Canada that I think think her town doesn't.
Speaker 2: Even have a name.
Speaker 1: Mm if for her, having the car is the number
Speaker 1: one thing. Look, I don't know what the Canadian reality is.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the country. Canadian reality is of
Speaker 1: having a car is huge to her. Maybe she's really excited.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's I don't know, what are we you an autophiliac?
Speaker 1: Maybe Shaniah wants to Maybe she has a thing with cars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, Mariah Carey. And there's one more, and remind
Speaker 2: me to go back to one more thing about the
Speaker 2: Grammys that we did a huge thing that we missed.
Speaker 2: But let's let's before I don't want break up here.
Speaker 1: I knew there was gonna be something. I knew there
Speaker 1: was gonna be something that we had missed, and I
Speaker 1: had a panic attack about it.
Speaker 2: Simply your you'rrejs, gonn drop. Let's talk about Marie. I
Speaker 2: do want top Mariah, do want to go back to Grammy's.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Mariah.
Speaker 2: Okay, Mariah Carey, you are such a legend. I mean
Speaker 2: not that we need to tell you. We already have
Speaker 2: to your face. But seeing you live, seeing you sing
Speaker 2: these songs in chronological order of release, and for you
Speaker 2: to end at Mimi is both cruel and also a
Speaker 2: testament to your genius as a songwriter and an artist
Speaker 2: and a vocalist, because there's so many other hits after
Speaker 2: that that you could have put into this that list,
Speaker 2: but you chose not to because you wanted to be
Speaker 2: what a celebration of me?
Speaker 1: Me? I just feel like you can't really name anyone
Speaker 1: else who can only do forty seconds of every single
Speaker 1: one of her songs because there's so many and there's
Speaker 1: only so much time in a night, and then there's
Speaker 1: still shit. You're leaving being like, oh, she didn't do this,
Speaker 1: she didn't do this, she didn't do this, she didn't
Speaker 1: do this. But the fact is, next residency. How about that?
Speaker 2: For her to mash up Honey and Heartbreaker, that was tough,
Speaker 2: one song that was tough, But then you go, I
Speaker 2: get it, she wants to get get out of there.
Speaker 2: But those are two standalone, perfect pop songs that yes,
Speaker 2: maybe have similarity structurally or chord wise, but come on,
Speaker 2: give them their own moment. Those are so per We're
Speaker 2: We're not telling you how to do your job. Mariah,
Speaker 2: Oh please, we love you so much.
Speaker 1: Literal only thing with the whole show is she mashes
Speaker 1: up Honey Heartbreaker, and I was like, oh, those are both.
Speaker 1: There's literally my two favorites. But I'll say the songs
Speaker 1: that she did do full lengths of always be My Baby,
Speaker 1: dream Lover, which, by the way, this was my one thing.
Speaker 1: I'm kicking myself that I didn't say to Arianna on
Speaker 1: the episode we had her. I think that when Mariah
Speaker 1: eventually has her Kennedy Center Honors, Arianna should sing dream Lover.
Speaker 1: I think she would crush that. Dream Lover is so good,
Speaker 1: so good. It's so good, I mean, And yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a real It was a real trip down memory lane,
Speaker 1: and you could tell that everyone there, the lamily was
Speaker 1: just very strong. There was that guy was there by himself,
Speaker 1: and I kept turning around making eye contact with it
Speaker 1: because I knew that we were having the same moment, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it was joy, I mean, Mariah is it's just
Speaker 1: those songs that take you back home. Really, if you're
Speaker 1: a LAMB, that's a show you have to go to
Speaker 1: because it's only going I think till at least this
Speaker 1: leg of it February fifteenth or something.
Speaker 2: H please go see it.
Speaker 1: It's like a tiny little run this time. I don't
Speaker 1: know what she's doing with it. I probably should, but
Speaker 1: you gotta go see Mariah do the show. Come on,
Speaker 1: it's so good. She sounds great too.
Speaker 2: She sounds great. She's having fun. She's taking tiny ass
Speaker 2: steps to the piano or to across the stage. She
Speaker 2: cannot be focused or bothered to do anything else but
Speaker 2: give you a perfect vocal. Give her, let her walk,
Speaker 2: let her cook, let her do whatever, because guess what,
Speaker 2: her voice in every sense is a comfort with what
Speaker 2: you just said, but also with her spoken word, in
Speaker 2: her sicials. I really was moved by the end when
Speaker 2: she was just saying that as an artist, the thing
Speaker 2: in life that she has learned, the biggest thing in
Speaker 2: life that she has learned as an artist, is to
Speaker 2: never give up on your dreams. That nobody, no mother, father,
Speaker 2: and she just lists people who might try to take
Speaker 2: and drain that from you. Never give that up. And
Speaker 2: that is a perfect, simple, succinct message to give to
Speaker 2: anybody and to have it feel universal, have it land universally.
Speaker 2: That's what songwriting is at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: and she guess what, she's the best at it.
Speaker 1: So there was that moment at the end where she
Speaker 1: was like and nothing and nobody, no ex husband, no husband,
Speaker 1: no boss, no boyfriend, no landlord, no dentist, no clown,
Speaker 1: no president. She went so far and listed so many
Speaker 1: names of people who could potentially hold a position of
Speaker 1: power over you, and she said that none of them
Speaker 1: can hold you back from your destiny. I mean for
Speaker 1: your dream, because I'm your dream. I had forgotten.
Speaker 2: We've both forgotten. And it's thank you, Mariah for the reminder.
Speaker 2: We just thank you for all the ways you've enriched
Speaker 2: her life, our lives. And I want to bring it
Speaker 2: back to Gramas unless there's anythinglse you want to say about.
Speaker 1: Mariah Bowen learned the rules of baccarat.
Speaker 2: I learned the rules of background. I'm not get a
Speaker 2: chance to play because the buying is so high. But
Speaker 2: and I did have fun at the blackjack table with
Speaker 2: our friends Cliff and Gustin Marie and.
Speaker 1: We had a wonderful unit. We had a family unit.
Speaker 2: We had a family unit. Was a very nice that
Speaker 2: we had to karaoke. I had a blast and then
Speaker 2: of course we were doing we were part of a
Speaker 2: larger group that was also there as well, lovely celebrating
Speaker 2: Sharia law. We know it's we know it's Sharia. We
Speaker 2: just pronounced it sharia.
Speaker 1: Shariah was just you know, it's it's it's a little
Speaker 1: fun thing you can do with words. It's called wordplay.
Speaker 1: If you're a Mariah fan, you know all about it.
Speaker 1: But I digress.
Speaker 2: You said that in a very Mariah way.
Speaker 1: I know, what can I say? Sometimes a little Mariah
Speaker 1: it's a moment.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is what we forgot to talk about. Okay,
Speaker 2: what did we literally miss Megan two point zero?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to femininomenon the Megan two point oho trailer.
Speaker 1: That's cinema.
Speaker 2: And have you done any research at all into the
Speaker 2: plot details? No?
Speaker 1: Is Alison Williams not around in this one?
Speaker 2: You get ready?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Gemma which is the character name, which is Alison Williams's
Speaker 2: character Gemma is now a writer, okay, who is criticizing
Speaker 2: the dysregulation of AI. And she's a prominent voice in
Speaker 2: the sort of like we should we should be careful
Speaker 2: about AI.
Speaker 1: She knows better than anyone. She survived the events of
Speaker 1: Meghan one zero.
Speaker 2: She survived Meghan when barely.
Speaker 1: If you saw Meghan, you know that Alison Williams barely
Speaker 1: leaves with her life. Sorry, Jemma the character that Alice
Speaker 1: Williams plays, because when it's Alison Williams up there, you
Speaker 1: completely forget about Alison Willims. You just see Gemma.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so, Jemma is now a prominent voice in this movement. Yes, somehow,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the technology and the sort of recursive
Speaker 2: model that Megan represented, because Megan has been discontinued, well,
Speaker 2: certainly a defense or military contractor. I want to say,
Speaker 2: I might be a drink these details, but I these
Speaker 2: details are really actually crazy, and I'm gagged and I
Speaker 2: cannot wait for this movie. Someone with sinister motives has
Speaker 2: gotten their hands on the model, the Megan AI model,
Speaker 2: and is now putting it into their into a new
Speaker 2: AI named Amelia Perez. No no, no, no, no, don't
Speaker 2: say that name. I don't want to hear that name
Speaker 2: while I'm talking about Meghan or ever. Frankly, Amelia is
Speaker 2: the new girl who will be used in an army
Speaker 2: of Amelias to basically be a weapon of war. Gemma
Speaker 2: in an effort to stop this and stop Amelia has
Speaker 2: to go back, reboot Meghan and join forces with her.
Speaker 1: You are kidding? Gemma and Megan are gonna team up
Speaker 1: against Amelia? Like?
Speaker 2: Are you like?
Speaker 1: This is an amazing three dolls?
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for this movie.
Speaker 1: No, you know what, I have to disagree with you.
Speaker 1: We have to get Amelia Perez in there. What do
Speaker 1: you mean we need these cinemas to cross over. We
Speaker 1: need this cinematic No needs to combine with Megan.
Speaker 2: That bitch had her fingers chopped off. She is not
Speaker 2: gonna be involved in the Megan cinematic universe. Okay, you're right,
Speaker 2: Amelia Perez. I want no Amelia with an A. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 1: Gonna Amelia a m E l I A like de.
Speaker 2: Moldenburg, Amelia de Moldenberg. It's an army of Amelias and
Speaker 2: the only people that can stop them are Megan and Gemma.
Speaker 1: If I was in a spelling bee and the word
Speaker 1: was Amelia, I would say can you use that in
Speaker 1: a sentence? And one thing that they could do was
Speaker 1: Chicken Shop date is hosted by Amelia. And what's the
Speaker 1: gag about that is? Demoldenburg isn't even the word you'd
Speaker 1: have to spell. You would have to spell Amelia, because
Speaker 1: that was the question to begin with. So my question
Speaker 1: to you Bowen is can you spell de Moldenburg the Mouldenberg?
Speaker 2: You're you gonna pull it up? Yes, yes, go Demuldenberg.
Speaker 2: D I am O L D E N B E
Speaker 2: r G de Moldenberg.
Speaker 1: That is correct. Aquila and the Bee more like Bowen
Speaker 1: and the Bee.
Speaker 2: Now, just so I have the details right, and just
Speaker 2: so I don't want to like mislead anybody. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna read what I have found on the internet. Set
Speaker 2: two years after the original film, Gemma Parentheses, Williams becomes
Speaker 2: author and advocate for the regulation of artificial intelligence. When
Speaker 2: a defense contractor steals the technology behind Megan and creates
Speaker 2: their own evil AI powered robot called Amelia, who is
Speaker 2: intent on taking over the world, Gemma reboots an updated
Speaker 2: Megan to destroy Amelia. Are you not so excited for
Speaker 2: this movie?
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a mussy? When is it coming?
Speaker 2: It is coming out June twenty seventh, the end of
Speaker 2: Pride Month. They know the market will be are butt
Speaker 2: certain seeds.
Speaker 1: The gays are going to be so exhausted for Pride
Speaker 1: They're gonna need to sit down and watch a movie
Speaker 1: that's actually so that's really smart. They're gonna put that
Speaker 1: movie in theaters where it's traditionally seated, because the gays
Speaker 1: are going to need to be seated, right, The gays
Speaker 1: are going to be seated for Megan in terms of
Speaker 1: internet slang, and they're also going to be seated out
Speaker 1: of necessity because they're so tired from pride. This is
Speaker 1: so smart.
Speaker 2: Bo, This is Meghan level genius in the way that
Speaker 2: Megan the Doll is a genius.
Speaker 1: But I never bet against Alison Williams. Oh never, When
Speaker 1: have we ever? I literally never have. We have the
Speaker 1: Alison Williams Cool Girl Award for a reason at the
Speaker 1: LCCUS Okay, which.
Speaker 2: Is now henceforth known as the Alison Williams Cool Girl
Speaker 2: a World. In the words of Anti Katsenavis.
Speaker 1: Yes, cool Girls the world, cool girl the world. Have
Speaker 1: we reached out to Alison Williams not being on this podcast,
Speaker 1: I think we got to know.
Speaker 2: We got to know, well, we we've certainly reached out.
Speaker 2: We have certainly reached out. All is all I can say.
Speaker 2: We love her, We want you to love get on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: On the show fun and and we know you can
Speaker 1: hang and Allison, you think you should be on the show.
Speaker 1: Come on, come in June, come on Lost Coach for
Speaker 1: Megan two point zero, Alison Williams challenge. That wouldn't be
Speaker 1: fair if she didn't do a lot culture restays from
Speaker 1: Megan two point zero. That wouldn't be fair to the game.
Speaker 1: Come on, Allison, I would hate for you to disappoint
Speaker 1: the entire gay community. That's all. I'm just gonna leave
Speaker 1: that hanging there.
Speaker 2: She won't do that. She already isn't.
Speaker 1: Hinges on this.
Speaker 2: Just kidding girl, Just kidding girl, cool girl, world girl.
Speaker 1: I hope the only word she ever says to me,
Speaker 1: like Shania Twain, is no.
Speaker 2: Mmmm you would why? I think you guys would get along?
Speaker 1: No, I think would be great. I think we'd be
Speaker 1: best friends. I think I think that we Well, she's
Speaker 1: already married, so we can't be in each other's weddings.
Speaker 2: I'll think about it, me and yours. For sure.
Speaker 1: She should give a speech.
Speaker 2: All right, it's time for I don't think so money.
Speaker 2: This is our one minute segment where we oh, are
Speaker 2: you okay?
Speaker 1: I'm never getting married. I have a total learning moment,
Speaker 1: we can stop the podcast. I'm never getting married.
Speaker 2: Marnie gave us permission to be to be ourselves whatever
Speaker 2: we want.
Speaker 1: Really, if you want to be a music artist, you can.
Speaker 1: You think I'm not Marnie Michaels.
Speaker 2: The name that Marnie Michaels invents when she's at the
Speaker 2: Plosa Hotel when that couple thinks she's a sex.
Speaker 1: Worker, say it, say it.
Speaker 2: Mcgita, Mergita Petezita.
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Mcgita
Speaker 1: Petez walked so Amelia Petez could run. That's actually rule
Speaker 1: of culture number fifty six. Mag walked, so.
Speaker 2: Run stupid. Oh my god, this is this show. Cancel us.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I have ann't think so money.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is Matt Rogers's I don't think so honey,
Speaker 2: and his time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Carlos Sophia, I think you
Speaker 1: got a can it hunt?
Speaker 2: You got a man?
Speaker 1: Missy. You gotta sit down at this point. Don't go
Speaker 1: on CNN and be pointing the fingers. You gotta sit down.
Speaker 1: When Zoe Sela Donia is a Q and A is
Speaker 1: now having to shoulder this question and calling herself saddened.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something to anyone out there listening,
Speaker 1: if you ever do anything that results in Zoe Cela
Speaker 1: Donia at a Q and A saying she's saddened, I
Speaker 1: don't think, Sonny, you saddened, Zoe? And how dare you?
Speaker 1: You said in Selena, I'm sure and you know the troubles.
Speaker 1: How could you do this? But Carlo Sophia, I think
Speaker 1: what we could learn from this, and imagine I had
Speaker 1: anything to learn from it. We can't all be trolled,
Speaker 1: and I think if this proves anything, it's that anyone
Speaker 1: can be a troll and everyone shall be off the computer.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Emelia Petez, this is the
Speaker 1: weirdest moment of culture ever. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 2: And that's one minute we've we've really never seen anything
Speaker 2: quite like this. And Carlo Sofia Gascone, why did you
Speaker 2: No one on the movie or at Netflix told her
Speaker 2: to do this interview?
Speaker 1: By the way, Oh no, this seemed very of her
Speaker 1: own volition. If you don't know, no, you know, Carlos Sophia,
Speaker 1: it's been unearthed, has has said some tough, very bigoted,
Speaker 1: racist stuff in the past. Claims are arising from her
Speaker 1: camp that a lot of it is fake, but I
Speaker 1: don't know because she's like half contrite and half blaming
Speaker 1: everyone else. All I'm saying is Emilia Petes has brought
Speaker 1: so much chaos, and I'll say I'll say this, I
Speaker 1: hope it doesn't if she was gonna win that Oscar Zoe,
Speaker 1: I hope this didn't mess it up for her, right,
Speaker 1: because that would be a huge bummer. Obviously we have
Speaker 1: got a friend in the category, but you know, like
Speaker 1: it looks like she was gonna finally get this huge
Speaker 1: moment in her career, and it would be a shame.
Speaker 2: It would be shame. It's just a shame that one
Speaker 2: person can really fuck up a whole movies campaign.
Speaker 1: Well, when you go that far, I know. But I'm
Speaker 1: so crazy the stuff that's out there. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like endless too, and I don't even my god, I
Speaker 1: have nothing really that trenchon to say. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: it's just mean. It's not even it's just mean. It's
Speaker 1: not like someone being like, hey, let me use my
Speaker 1: voice in this like you know, chaotic way and that's
Speaker 1: also gonna make people think it's just kind of lazy, mean,
Speaker 1: run of the mill, racist stuff and doesn't feel good.
Speaker 2: But what you're saying and you're I don't think so
Speaker 2: money is interesting. It's like anyone can be a troll,
Speaker 2: and any troll can be an Oscar nominee. It seems like,
Speaker 2: let's just like, if there's a pill that can turn
Speaker 2: off that part of your brain, that thing that makes
Speaker 2: you want to tweet something insane, let's invent it. Because well,
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 1: This weird thing where this movie is like all things.
Speaker 1: It's kind of an interesting microcosm when you think about
Speaker 1: like internet culture and like also combining with this awards culture,
Speaker 1: because the trans community hates this movie. The Mexican community
Speaker 1: hates this movie, and it's the film. It's like the
Speaker 1: prestige film community and the industry community that loves this movie.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like those things are at odds
Speaker 1: and yet also now this person is being canceled for
Speaker 1: saying these things, and so weirdly the right is like
Speaker 1: rallying for her, but she's trans, and it's just this
Speaker 1: very odd convergence of hot button things all around this
Speaker 1: movie that is I will say again bad nuts. This
Speaker 1: movie is d wackoed nuts. And yes there is like
Speaker 1: something interesting there being said. And like I do think
Speaker 1: it's well performed. I think it's always great. I think
Speaker 1: Selena is great. I thought Carlo Sophia's performance was pretty
Speaker 1: great too. But it's just it's so bizarre, like as
Speaker 1: a film and as a movie going experience that it
Speaker 1: leaves you scratching your head. And now all this extra
Speaker 1: stuff and now it's gonna go into the Oscars, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, vibes are not gonna be as
Speaker 1: high as the Grammys. The Oscars vibes. M it's amounting
Speaker 1: to be like one of the most bizarre wackle years
Speaker 1: in Oscar history.
Speaker 2: We think mister Michael Schulman will write another chapter in
Speaker 2: his book.
Speaker 1: And also, wait, one more thing, speaking of bad vibes
Speaker 1: at the Oscars. That extended part with Will Smith last
Speaker 1: night at the Grammys. I'm sorry, who's watching that guy
Speaker 1: on television and not thinking about how he assaulted a
Speaker 1: man on TV? Who are is anyone out there? Just
Speaker 1: like are we just forgetting this? Also, Chris Brown one
Speaker 1: R and B album, like all I can make is Noises?
Speaker 2: Who's watching Will Smith go on about Quincy Jones to
Speaker 2: introduce the celebratory moment for Quincy Jones by telling a
Speaker 2: fully boring anecdote about about himself about himself at Quincy
Speaker 2: Jones at a snack table at Crafty, being like, this
Speaker 2: should be better food. That's not That is not meaningful.
Speaker 2: That is not a meaningful Quincy Jones contribution to the culture.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, mister Smith. Quincy Jones telling you to get
Speaker 2: better craft services is not one of his most is
Speaker 2: not worth sharing to millions of people.
Speaker 1: Because he took care of people. And then Will Smith
Speaker 1: is like, and that's what I've striven to do my
Speaker 1: entire career, Like making it about him, Dude, this is
Speaker 1: extra disrespectful and I'm gonna mind my business. But I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say, I don't know who out there is
Speaker 1: not thinking about him hitting Chris Rock on stage when
Speaker 1: he's on television at an award show, like in the round,
Speaker 1: in that same style that wasn't in the round, but
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was just it was
Speaker 1: reminiscent in a way that didn't make me comfortable. And
Speaker 1: I don't know who's hearing Chris around as a Grammy
Speaker 1: winner's name, and not thinking about those pictures of Rihanna
Speaker 1: when he beat her up. But anyway, apparently there's you know,
Speaker 1: maybe the vibes in that room were a little too good.
Speaker 2: Hmm. That's just that's all I have. Yeah, I've got something.
Speaker 1: Okay, everyone, Bowen Yang's got something, and I'm excited about
Speaker 1: that because he's gonna show off his I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: skills right now, this is Boonen Yang's.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I
Speaker 2: don't think so, honey. Las Vegas, I love you. You're
Speaker 2: such a beautiful city. There is something in the air
Speaker 2: about the casinos not understanding or knowing how they feel
Speaker 2: about theming towards Asians. Where you have beautiful, lunar neiar
Speaker 2: things out, but also you have slot machines. Half of
Speaker 2: your slot machines are something called the China Mystery with
Speaker 2: someone in like a little a little straw hat or
Speaker 2: some such like a rice patty hat, like let's meet
Speaker 2: in the middle. At least, those seem to be an
Speaker 2: opposite end of the orientalism spectrum. And I'm not saying
Speaker 2: we have to like clean up every weird slot machine. Like,
Speaker 2: of course that is part of the imagination of Asian
Speaker 2: people in this country. But let's pick one or the other.
Speaker 2: Either be like crazy in the depiction or celebrate the
Speaker 2: year of the wood Snake. I think those things coexisting
Speaker 2: is a little dissonant.
Speaker 1: And that's a minute. Yeah. And then there was that
Speaker 1: one slot machine with the Buddha on it, and credit
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. It was rubbing. He was rubbing
Speaker 1: his tits together and shaking his titties, which is not
Speaker 1: what Buddha does. I didn't feel like part of buddhast thing.
Speaker 2: You know, Buddha is not gonna shimmy. Buddha is gonna
Speaker 2: sit there and be perfect. I don't mind the buddhis sloti.
Speaker 2: I don't mind the Asian slot machines. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: take take every Asian slot machine. I love like what
Speaker 2: we were talking about rush Hour too, and I ever
Speaker 2: since that movie, it was like, I want there to
Speaker 2: be like a hugely bombastically Asian casino in Vegas. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I think the one that comes closest is the win honestly,
Speaker 2: but it's like one or the other, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like you can't have the China mystery.
Speaker 1: And exactly that one saw machine where Buda was slipping
Speaker 1: it and reversing it. I didn't know about that one.
Speaker 1: So but right if you're noticing it, I think there's
Speaker 1: a huge problem. But I think we need to raise
Speaker 1: all of them to the ground. I'm sorry, no, no,
Speaker 1: leave only the vander Pumps standing.
Speaker 2: And Beauchamp.
Speaker 1: We had the best time at Bouchamp. Shout out to Beauchamp.
Speaker 1: We love Beauchamp. And we didn't wonder iful stay at
Speaker 1: the Encore. Yeah, we had a fabulous time.
Speaker 2: My first time in Vegas since I was a teenager.
Speaker 2: I could finally drink, I could find the gamble. I
Speaker 2: had a great time and we did and we did.
Speaker 2: We only bet with like small numbers, but like we
Speaker 2: were up. I think I was up like one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty bucks. You were up. Our friend Cliff was up, up.
Speaker 1: Up.
Speaker 2: We commend you, Cliff. You really made a killing. Well
Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing, he really does.
Speaker 1: At the blackjack table, I kind of just look out
Speaker 1: in the corner of my eye and he just like
Speaker 1: shakes his head or he or he taps the table
Speaker 1: and I do what he says, and I'm up one sixty.
Speaker 2: Well, Cliff made me realize that some of these dealers,
Speaker 2: you forget you're playing against them in blackjacks, and some
Speaker 2: of these dealers don't have your best drists in mind.
Speaker 2: So anytime I ask what the dealer recommends, I have
Speaker 2: to go Wait a minute, I'm gonna ask Cliff, because
Speaker 2: Cliff knows. We love you. Cliff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, King Daddy his shirt said the whole time, yes,
Speaker 1: and he was right. He was right about that. Here's
Speaker 1: what I'll say. We're gonna end the episode. This was
Speaker 1: a culture catch up for the Ages, so much to
Speaker 1: catch up on. Really does hearken back to episode one?
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I'm saying this was the the Grammys.
Speaker 1: It was the Grammys again.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to apologize if our voices sound a little
Speaker 1: nasal and cowfish. We were in Vegas saying mine is no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm so sorry. I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have done that. I didn't mean for you
Speaker 2: to No.
Speaker 1: I was being a bitch.
Speaker 2: No, No, I was, I was. I was.
Speaker 1: I don't want to ascribe this to Bowen, as it's
Speaker 1: not the case I will say my voice sounds a
Speaker 1: little bit nasal and coffish because I've been in Vegas
Speaker 1: for three days and I'm as sick as I'm sure
Speaker 1: everyone is listening to this, because everyone in America is
Speaker 1: currently sick. I also want to implore you not to
Speaker 1: touch birds.
Speaker 2: I implore you not to touch birds. And I implore
Speaker 2: you to clean your nails, because somehow I got a
Speaker 2: staph infection. Last week, you got put ravage I got.
Speaker 2: I guess they're poopy nails or child's poopy nails.
Speaker 1: Well, Bowen wipes his ass with Justice hand.
Speaker 2: Well with my with my Oh god, how did we
Speaker 2: get here?
Speaker 1: But I didn't know that about my sister. He wipes
Speaker 1: his butt with Justice hands, no paper, He goes, I'm
Speaker 1: ricking Ray hands. Anyway. I guess that's how this episode
Speaker 1: is going to end with the poopy hands joke, and.
Speaker 2: We had in every episode with the song I'm breaking.
Speaker 1: I'm not yet off book. It's really it cos Jos
Speaker 1: fam not. We're gonna go stream it right now. We're leaving. Bye.
Speaker 2: Last Culture Eatis is the production by Will Ferrell's Big
Speaker 2: Money Players and My Heart Radio podcasts.
Speaker 1: Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang Executive
Speaker 1: produced by Anna Hasnia and produced by Becker Ramos, Editing
Speaker 1: mixed by Doug Bamimnik for board and our music is
Speaker 1: by Henry Murski