Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Daniel Moody recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,
Speaker 1: you know the Israel and Hamas war, and I use
Speaker 1: warn quotations has been raging since October seventh, were hostages
Speaker 1: were taken, people killed, and since then thirty thousand Palestinians
Speaker 1: have been murdered, thirty thousand, most of them women and children.
Speaker 1: If you were looking to eviscerated people, you would do
Speaker 1: so by murdering women and children. Children being the future
Speaker 1: and women being the people with the uteruses that can
Speaker 1: bear children. This is not a war, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: because a war is when to countries, to groups. Two
Speaker 1: tribes are utilizing the same tactics, access and going after
Speaker 1: one another. That's not what this is and it's not
Speaker 1: what it's ever been. The Palestinians don't have any guns
Speaker 1: or rockets, and you can argue, oh, well, what about
Speaker 1: how are we listening every single day as there are
Speaker 1: bombs being dropped on Tel Aviv? No we're not on
Speaker 1: Jerusalem and any other parts of Israel, Bethlehem, No we're not.
Speaker 1: Those things are not happening. Life is going on except
Speaker 1: for where there are occupied spaces where Palestinians live. This
Speaker 1: is not and has not been, an equal war. This
Speaker 1: has been about, as Netanyahu's own cabinet members have said,
Speaker 1: getting rid of Palestinians and committing genocide. This world is
Speaker 1: filled with so much fucking evil everywhere. Yesterday I talked
Speaker 1: to you all about the beating of Next Benedict that
Speaker 1: resulted in that child's death to traumatic brain injury.
Speaker 2: We have seen.
Speaker 1: Pictures of famine, complete and other utter devastation in Gaza,
Speaker 1: in Congo, in Sudan, and in some ways we can
Speaker 1: become so desensitized to it. Oh, whis just what happens
Speaker 1: to people over there? Oh well, if Next had just
Speaker 1: gone along with everybody else, then they'd still be alive. Oh,
Speaker 1: those kids didn't know what they were doing when they
Speaker 1: were banging their head into the floor of the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Except we know what is happening. We know that language
Speaker 1: is critical when working to other and to humanize other
Speaker 1: groups of people to then be able to justify their obliteration,
Speaker 1: whether it's in a bathroom in Oklahoma, a church in
Speaker 1: South Carolina, or the city of Rufa. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to continue to wrap.
Speaker 2: My mind.
Speaker 1: Around the amount of grief that we are all being
Speaker 1: asked to hold every day. When I shared the story
Speaker 1: yesterday of next, I took the day off from social media.
Speaker 1: After that, I went and did a deep dive into
Speaker 1: you know, the TikTok story that's trending right now, the
Speaker 1: fifty part series, because I just needed something else. I
Speaker 1: needed a distraction, because the pain, the grief, the utter disregard.
Speaker 1: I say this all the time that when I was
Speaker 1: younger and I was learning about the Holocaust and watching
Speaker 1: Schindler's List and my high school auditorium, I just kept asking,
Speaker 1: like my history professors and teachers throughout the years, how
Speaker 1: could this happen? How do six million people get murdered
Speaker 1: and the world just go on?
Speaker 2: And now I know.
Speaker 1: They didn't have an answer, right, the same question that
Speaker 1: I asked when learning about enslaved Africans, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: if you really want to know, like the treatment of
Speaker 1: enslaved people, like the stories that I still learn are
Speaker 1: just so like, oh my god, the depravity of white enslavers,
Speaker 1: Like the absolute fucking depravity that you must have to
Speaker 1: treat another human being in such a way. It's astonishing
Speaker 1: because those stories still make me sick because we don't
Speaker 1: even know the half of the half. Why does America?
Speaker 1: Why does the world repeat history? Because they don't fucking
Speaker 1: teach it, not in its visceral, real, raw truth. You
Speaker 1: learn about George Washington telling little lies and chopping down
Speaker 1: a cherry tree, not ripping the teeth out of his
Speaker 1: slaves and putting it in his own fucking mouth.
Speaker 3: You get said lies about Oh, a love affair between
Speaker 3: Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings, not the fact that she
Speaker 3: was a fourteen year old girl that was property and
Speaker 3: raped unrelentingly.
Speaker 1: By a man double her age, whose children that she
Speaker 1: would bear, who wouldn't even be able to be buried
Speaker 1: and recognized in the same lot. That is love. That's
Speaker 1: the love affair we were fucking spoon fed. Give me
Speaker 1: a fucking break, just like we are told, right, Palestinian people,
Speaker 1: they're violent people. They need to be herded up in
Speaker 1: open air prisons and stripped of their self actualization, their liberty,
Speaker 1: their humanity. If your freedom relies on someone else's oppression,
Speaker 1: you will never be free. So what are we talking
Speaker 1: about these days? How much in humanity, how much depravity
Speaker 1: we can take in on a regular basis while seemingly
Speaker 1: trying desperately to hold onto our sanity and our own humanity,
Speaker 1: because the way that we allow ourselves to become desensitized,
Speaker 1: the more brutal this world will become. The other day,
Speaker 1: was having a conversation and trying to figure out, oh,
Speaker 1: are we going to cover the shooting after the super
Speaker 1: Bowl on another show that I do, And folks are like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the people that track mass shootings are going
Speaker 1: to start to think about different ways to track because
Speaker 1: there are just so many. And since only one person
Speaker 1: was killed and twenty two injured, I said, what, so
Speaker 1: now we've moved the needle. It's not enough to have
Speaker 1: one death. We must have ten or twenty or thirty
Speaker 1: or forty or fifty in order for it to be
Speaker 1: worthy of coverage. So yeah, I took a beat yesterday
Speaker 1: because I am so tired, Like my body is just
Speaker 1: physically tired, and I keep thinking, like, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 1: Am I coming down with something?
Speaker 2: Am I Am? I sick?
Speaker 1: No, not physically, but the weight of all this, it's
Speaker 1: so heavy, it's so so heavy.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I do know though, that the ame
Speaker 1: Church this week in an article in the New York
Speaker 1: Times is saying what many of us are saying to
Speaker 1: the Biden administration as it pertains to Gaza quote. What
Speaker 1: we are saying is enough is enough. We felt we
Speaker 1: needed to take it a step further because the money
Speaker 1: issue must be addressed. Israel has a right to defend itself,
Speaker 1: but why are we paying? Why are we paying for
Speaker 1: the instruction of people? That is a quote from Bishop Richardson,
Speaker 1: who presides over two hundred congregations in Texas. The Ame Church,
Speaker 1: which boasts membership of three million Black Americans, are calling
Speaker 1: for the Biden administration not only to issue and push
Speaker 1: for a cease fire, but they are calling on this
Speaker 1: administration to stop funding the destruction of a people. And
Speaker 1: what they are saying as the base of the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: is that black people are seeing what is happening and
Speaker 1: their allegiance to the Democratic Party, based on it's on
Speaker 1: wavering support for mass murder, is fraying their ability to
Speaker 1: remain in Joe Biden's corner. So today, in my conversation
Speaker 1: with our friend the Reverend Mark Thompson, host of Make
Speaker 1: It Plain, we talk about this, and this is a
Speaker 1: conversation that was recorded earlier, but with this new New
Speaker 1: York Times piece entitled prominent Black church leader's call for
Speaker 1: end of USA to Israel, the African Methodist Episcopal Church
Speaker 1: Bishop Council says American financial assistance to help Israel fight
Speaker 1: its war in Gaza supports mass genocide. We're in trouble.
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party is in fucking trouble, and I'm starting
Speaker 1: to see the riding on the wall and it don't
Speaker 1: look good. So if your body feels some days as
Speaker 1: heavy as mine does this week, take a beat, rest, recuperate,
Speaker 1: because we're gonna need every bit of strength to get
Speaker 1: to November. Coming up next, my conversation with our dear friend,
Speaker 1: the Reverend Mark Thompson. Folks, you know that whenever I
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to welcome back to Woke Fi Daily,
Speaker 1: my friend the Reverend Mark Thompson, host of Make It
Speaker 1: Plain and just all around incredible advocate justice warrior, I'm
Speaker 1: always incredibly honored and pleased.
Speaker 2: Mark.
Speaker 1: It's been a time. It has been a deep several
Speaker 1: months in this country as we have are continuing to
Speaker 1: bear witness to the atrocities in Gaza. Recently, the poll
Speaker 1: numbers out for Biden of his handling right now of
Speaker 1: what is happening the genocide that is taking place, is poor,
Speaker 1: to say the very friggin' least. The poll numbers are
Speaker 1: poor when looking at his handling. Sixty percent of people
Speaker 1: believe that he is handling the situation in Israel and
Speaker 1: in Gaza in the worst way. You have been a
Speaker 1: part of what we have witnessed as a extraordinary push
Speaker 1: and collaboration of black faith leaders across the country calling
Speaker 1: for a ceasefire. I want to give you the opportunity
Speaker 1: to bring us through the timeline that has led thousand
Speaker 1: plus faith leaders, black faith leaders from across the country
Speaker 1: to urge President Biden to say cease fire. Talk to
Speaker 1: us about the initially the ad, the full page ad
Speaker 1: that was taken out in the New York Times.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Danielle, thanks for having me. It's
Speaker 2: always an honor to be with you in the WOKF audience.
Speaker 2: First of all, Pastor Michael McBrien and Rever Doctor Barbara
Speaker 2: William Skinner, Pastor Mike with the Black Church pag Doctor Skinner,
Speaker 2: who was actually the founder of the annual Congressional Black
Speaker 2: Caucus prayer Breakfast every year convened close to a thousand,
Speaker 2: maybe more of us in Black clergy and African American clergy,
Speaker 2: and not just those who were ordained, but anyone in
Speaker 2: faith leadership in our communities to sign on to a
Speaker 2: full page ad in the New York Times. That was
Speaker 2: back in November, before Thanksgiving, and so about one thousand
Speaker 2: signed on, and I think that number had even grown.
Speaker 2: But the likes of James Forbes and Jeremiah Wright, and
Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson, and even James Lawson, who was in his nineties.
Speaker 2: James Lawson was the organizer of the Nashville sitting movement
Speaker 2: and the organizer of the Memphis sanitation worker strike. He
Speaker 2: went to India even before Doctor King did, and he
Speaker 2: was usually Doctor king advanced person when it came to
Speaker 2: setting up nonviolent campaigns. He signed on to this ceasefire,
Speaker 2: and the ceasefire demanded a release on a release of
Speaker 2: all the hostages, be they hostages held by the Israeli
Speaker 2: government or hostages held by Hamas, and it called for
Speaker 2: an immediate ceasefire that the A Biden administration would abide
Speaker 2: by that and we had met with several officials in
Speaker 2: the Biden administration. I'm sure your audience is aware that
Speaker 2: within the administration there has been some pushback. There have
Speaker 2: even been some mutinies, some resignations because there are those
Speaker 2: with an administration who do not support the administration giving
Speaker 2: unconditional arms to Israel to carry out what some have
Speaker 2: even likened to a genocide. That has been the issue,
Speaker 2: and so there was this full page ad in the
Speaker 2: New York Times. We did some media around it, including
Speaker 2: with Joy Reid, and then what you saw most recently
Speaker 2: with the New York was the New York Times piece,
Speaker 2: but just before the New York Times piece the day
Speaker 2: after DoD King's birthday. We spent a couple of months
Speaker 2: on it, and I admitted it was one of the
Speaker 2: hardest things I've ever pulled together. But a group of
Speaker 2: us were at a retreat and there was a songwriting workshop.
Speaker 2: We were with Red Letter Christians in at the Alex
Speaker 2: Haley Farm, and myself and Bill Ince and Phillip Jobert
Speaker 2: of a great spiritual gospel group known as Common Hymnal.
Speaker 2: You all can follow them at Common Hymnal. They just
Speaker 2: released a single called God of Color. The two of
Speaker 2: them plus the Reverend doctor Jack Sullivan and Bishop Dwayne
Speaker 2: Royster just started writing a song and said, well, brothers,
Speaker 2: why don't we write a song with some with some
Speaker 2: relevant meaning and purpose today? And we wrote a Ceasefire
Speaker 2: song and then we began to produce some music video.
Speaker 2: I was pretty much the lead and organized as in it.
Speaker 2: I confess, of all the things I've organized, this is
Speaker 2: probably the toughest. It's easier for me just to organize
Speaker 2: folks and to go to jail and to go to
Speaker 2: jail on myself than it is doing music. Believe in
Speaker 2: not folks, it really is. I mean, I can roll
Speaker 2: out being go to jail, music video, something else. But
Speaker 2: I don't feel so bad because it took a few months.
Speaker 2: The Netflix documentary on All the World was released and
Speaker 2: the song wasn't released for three months after they did
Speaker 2: the recording, So I don't feel so bad. It didn't
Speaker 2: take me quite three months. So I'm chilling in a
Speaker 2: little bit better than we are the world. But we
Speaker 2: released the Ceasefire song, the lead singer being Iana Gregory,
Speaker 2: along with Common Hymnough and a host of some of
Speaker 2: our friends and activists in the community, from Linda Sarsour
Speaker 2: to Tamika Mallory, to the Reverend James Forbes again and
Speaker 2: some of the individuals that were in the New York
Speaker 2: Times article, Reverend James Lost and Reverend Jeremiah Right. So
Speaker 2: we did this around January sixteenth, and then in the
Speaker 2: past what ten days or so, the New York Times
Speaker 2: has done a story. So it's got a lot of
Speaker 2: pick up in trafficking and why did this happen? I
Speaker 2: don't know many clergy who aren't standing with us, because
Speaker 2: how can you be a person of faith and not
Speaker 2: decry the level of violence that is taking place and
Speaker 2: the disproportionate number of Palestinians and Gossans, particularly young people
Speaker 2: who are building, who are being killed in this. So
Speaker 2: that's essentially what we've done. There's a call to prophetic
Speaker 2: moral authority, a call that we are answering and to
Speaker 2: say to the Biden administration, enough is enough. Now, there
Speaker 2: are some who've gone so far as to say they
Speaker 2: may not support Joe Biden, for that is not a
Speaker 2: consensus by everyone because frankly, we know the alternative isn't better.
Speaker 2: But to be truthful, that's just us. I mean, we
Speaker 2: can say what we are and are not gonna do, Danielle.
Speaker 2: We're at a moment where they're those in the electorate
Speaker 2: we don't know because they're not outfront like us. They're
Speaker 2: not talking. And the longer this goes on, I think
Speaker 2: the Biden administration will be naive or the campaign will
Speaker 2: be naive to say he's not losing votes every day.
Speaker 2: He's got to win Michigan. Michigan is in peril electorally
Speaker 2: for the Biden Harris ticket because of what is going
Speaker 2: on in Gaza. I believe the Biden administration. I believe
Speaker 2: them when they say they're trying to work out a solution.
Speaker 2: I think they're finally getting it. But when this happened
Speaker 2: Daniel Moody on October seventh, ye I called several friends
Speaker 2: and I say, y'all, this is nineteen eighty Jimmy Carter
Speaker 2: all over again. And folks didn't believe me at first,
Speaker 2: but you'd be surprised. Just yesterday, I was with some
Speaker 2: leaders in the Jewish community and they said, brother, you
Speaker 2: said that. We didn't believe you, but you are absolutely right.
Speaker 2: Because nettn Y'ahu, Putin and Trump are all working together.
Speaker 2: This is more than about what's going on over there.
Speaker 2: It's also the impact what's going on over here.
Speaker 1: Remind folks too about what exactly happened with Jimmy Carter
Speaker 1: and why he ended up as a one term president.
Speaker 1: I mean, we will can say that he you know,
Speaker 1: his influence did not wane and actually grew following his
Speaker 1: time as President of the United States. But to your
Speaker 1: earlier point, we are in a lot different, an extraordinarily
Speaker 1: different moment, I will say, a perilous one. But do
Speaker 1: remind people of exactly what happened that then would usher
Speaker 1: in the first Bush.
Speaker 2: There was an uprising in Iran against the Shah, who
Speaker 2: was one of those royal family leaders that the United
Speaker 2: States had propped up for decades, and people were sick
Speaker 2: of it. So the Iranians had every right to throw
Speaker 2: off that imperial regime. But in doing so, they took
Speaker 2: hostages out of the American embassy, and they kept those
Speaker 2: hostages for over a year so that Jimmy Carter would
Speaker 2: lose the election to Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 1: Oh, Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan and the great journalists who recently passed away,
Speaker 2: was a frequent guest on My show. Robert Perry uncovered
Speaker 2: the whole plot. For those you've heard the term October surprise,
Speaker 2: A lot of people get confused. October's surprise was a
Speaker 2: term coined by the Reagan people because they were fearful
Speaker 2: that Carter might be able to rescue the hostages and
Speaker 2: win the election. So the future CIA director under Reagan,
Speaker 2: who would be William Casey, his running mate hw Bush, right,
Speaker 2: both of them flew in a private plane to Paris
Speaker 2: in the summer of nineteen eighty, a private plane provided
Speaker 2: to them by the father of Osama bin Laden because
Speaker 2: they were all friends. Then Osama bin Laden's father flew
Speaker 2: Casey and Bush to Paris to meet with the Ayatola
Speaker 2: and to convince the Ayatola to keep the hostages so
Speaker 2: that they could win the election. And once they won
Speaker 2: the election, they would trade arms with Iron. Hence you know,
Speaker 2: trading arms for hostages. The whole thing Reagan was investigated for.
Speaker 2: That was set up in nineteen eighty and that cost
Speaker 2: car to the election. So when I saw October seventh,
Speaker 2: I said, wait a minute, got another Democratic president here.
Speaker 2: You create a world conflict and pull him into it
Speaker 2: so that it costs him the election. Putin gets what
Speaker 2: he wants by getting Trump back in, then Yahoo, who
Speaker 2: is the Trump of Israel, stays in power, and Putin
Speaker 2: gets to keep Israel and the United States. If Trump
Speaker 2: gets back in the United States pulls out of Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Putin then promises, then Yahoo, you stay out of Ukraine.
Speaker 2: I win Ukraine. You get all the Gazans out of Gaza,
Speaker 2: then I will relocate all of the Jews in Ukraine
Speaker 2: into the newly settled place of Gaza. So these that's
Speaker 2: the nexus of what's going on. And so that's that's
Speaker 2: that's what I saw it for and I still see
Speaker 2: it for that. And the Biden administration is is naive.
Speaker 2: I can't believe it this hour. They don't get it.
Speaker 2: They may not be able to articulate it in the
Speaker 2: way that I am articulating in it articulating it, but
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're trying to figure out a way out,
Speaker 2: and it may be too late.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I mean. First of all, Mark,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for connecting every single damn dot
Speaker 1: because the schemes are extraordinary of the Republican Party, treacherous,
Speaker 1: traitorous right and go back beyond before Donald Trump right
Speaker 1: to bring us to this current place and moment. And
Speaker 1: I will tell you that while for the last several months,
Speaker 1: as this conflict has been going on and we have
Speaker 1: watched now I don't even know what the number is,
Speaker 1: thirty thousand plus tens of thousands of people, children right
Speaker 1: be slaughtered relentlessly at the same time that you have
Speaker 1: the current administration talking once again about the soul of
Speaker 1: this nation and holding on to democracy in this nation,
Speaker 1: and young people, black people, queer people, people of color
Speaker 1: are asking themselves, wait a minute, what is going on here?
Speaker 1: And I think for the first time the woll has
Speaker 1: been pulled from people's eyes about this conflict in Israel
Speaker 1: and Gaza, in Israel and Palestine, and people are seeing
Speaker 1: it as not this extraordinarily complicated historical, you know, religious
Speaker 1: land ownership issue, but they are seeing it very clearly.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, How does this oppressed people have the
Speaker 1: ability to turn off water, food, access, right to aid
Speaker 1: in such a manner? And it is through right the
Speaker 1: courage I think of the South African government and the
Speaker 1: lawyers that brought the case in front of the ICJ
Speaker 1: to say no, no, We've seen this before. We've seen
Speaker 1: and the world has seen this before. So I'm wondering,
Speaker 1: you know, how does this administration miss this fact? And
Speaker 1: people told me when this con when this started on
Speaker 1: October seventh, they said, foreign affairs never plays into domestic elections.
Speaker 1: I said, is that right, because I think that you're
Speaker 1: wrong and your assumption is that people are going to
Speaker 1: forget about this. Well, you can't go on any social
Speaker 1: media platform and avoid the videos and the pictures and
Speaker 1: the audio and all of the things in real time
Speaker 1: that are happening unfiltered by mainstream media, right right, right,
Speaker 1: So how does this administration not see and hear what
Speaker 1: is going on, particularly again when polls just came out
Speaker 1: and sixty percent of Americans believe that he is failing
Speaker 1: in this war? Right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I think that you have
Speaker 2: some generational issues. And I'm not just saying talking about
Speaker 2: Joe Biden's age. I think even the people around him
Speaker 2: there at one time Apak had a disproportionate amount of
Speaker 2: influence in this country. It no longer has that. I
Speaker 2: think there's a fear that he might if he does something,
Speaker 2: he may disaffect the Jewish electorate and lose their votes.
Speaker 2: But many of the Jewish, many in the Jewish electorate
Speaker 2: are out here in the streets with us, especially this
Speaker 2: younger generation. They are saying not in our names. So
Speaker 2: there's there's just this this tone deafness. It's almost damned
Speaker 2: if he does and damned if he doesn't. But I
Speaker 2: think the most damning is to continue this. I think
Speaker 2: there's much more to lose in continuing this. And the
Speaker 2: quicker this administration can get out of this conflict, the better,
Speaker 2: the quicker this administration can distance itself. And you know,
Speaker 2: the story is that Biden said to then Yahoo that
Speaker 2: this was costly for him politically, he could lose the election.
Speaker 2: And then Yahoo's response was, I don't give a damn
Speaker 2: right because this is about him. I think that they're
Speaker 2: over confident. They think that by telling so they want
Speaker 2: to say, I'm hearing their argument to the black collector.
Speaker 2: It is well influence chapter thirty five dollars. So y'all
Speaker 2: should vote for us again. That's it. Now, that's good
Speaker 2: thing that you got the insulin cap. But a lot
Speaker 2: of the things administration is done, even on the economic level,
Speaker 2: are not that tangibly felt and are not tangible enough
Speaker 2: to say, oh my god, lets people get out here
Speaker 2: and vote. The record number of women appointing to the
Speaker 2: federal judiciary. That's tangible, but not immediate. You know, people
Speaker 2: won't really feel that until their number is called or
Speaker 2: for years to come. So something that's on the news
Speaker 2: every day, a literal slaughter. It's going to always overshadow
Speaker 2: things that are not tactile that you can touch, you know,
Speaker 2: And I don't know how quick don't I assume the
Speaker 2: insulin price reduction is kicked in the place, you know,
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know that that in and
Speaker 2: of itself is enough. And you can't trade all these
Speaker 2: bodies for insulin and then add insult to injury. How
Speaker 2: on earth of all the luck they have? You know,
Speaker 2: at one time Jimmy Carter did plan a rescue. Something happened.
Speaker 2: The rescue helicopters crashed in each other. Some people even
Speaker 2: said there might have been some foul play in that.
Speaker 2: But look at Biden. A drone strike hits a base
Speaker 2: and it manages to take out of all the people
Speaker 2: on that base, three black people, two young, beautiful black women.
Speaker 2: What kind of luck is that for this amission? So
Speaker 2: that's not endearing either. So so the plan I wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to be in his position. But first things first,
Speaker 2: get out of this conflict. Be be outspoken in terms
Speaker 2: of how wrong this is, because I'm gona tell you
Speaker 2: something else. So you alluded to this, Danielle, A lot
Speaker 2: of young people are dying, a lot of teenagers after
Speaker 2: that population of a teenage population, So what is that
Speaker 2: really about? Y'all? Think about this. You kill these teenagers, siblings, parents, relatives,
Speaker 2: what are you really doing? You are further radicalizing them
Speaker 2: to join whatever the next organization will be. It won't
Speaker 2: be Hermas because Harmas has running its course, financed by
Speaker 2: bb Netnyahu, ignored by bb Nen Yahu on October. So
Speaker 2: let's just kind of, you know, look away at this
Speaker 2: because this is gonna help us. This is to ned
Speaker 2: in Yahoo were not living, was Giuliani and w Bush.
Speaker 2: So whatever this new thing is, they're going to try
Speaker 2: to prop up because Israel and the Massade cannot allow
Speaker 2: autonomous Palestinian leadership. It has to be controlled Hamads, so
Speaker 2: you have Hamas. It doesn't support a two state solution.
Speaker 2: Then Yahoo doesn't support a two state solutions. So this
Speaker 2: next group where you're gonna get the recruits from, oh
Speaker 2: from all the teenagers whose family members you killed because
Speaker 2: war is an industry. I was talking with a very
Speaker 2: influential Jewish leader just yesterday and they were, you know,
Speaker 2: and let me tell you something. To my Jewish friend,
Speaker 2: this is complicated. People are conflicted, Families are torn asunder
Speaker 2: because and that's what is designed to do, cause confusion
Speaker 2: and conflict even amongst families. And this person was like, well, Mark,
Speaker 2: what are we gonna do? I said, he ask you
Speaker 2: a question. Do you understand how war is an industry?
Speaker 2: So what better way to keep an industry going than
Speaker 2: the slaughter a bunch of people and leave only teenagers
Speaker 2: remaining so they can be embittered and radicalized for the
Speaker 2: rest of their lives to keep this thing going. So
Speaker 2: that's really where we are and the Baden administration because
Speaker 2: I mean, we got to be able to walk to
Speaker 2: you guns saint time. We got to stop this, but
Speaker 2: we also can't allow Trump to be reelected. Unfortunately Biden's
Speaker 2: the only choice, but we got to figure this out.
Speaker 1: My comments section mark on my pages have changed dramatically
Speaker 1: over the last few months, where I have said in
Speaker 1: episodes of my shows and videos that I have posted
Speaker 1: that we're not voting for Joe Biden, we're voting for democracy.
Speaker 1: I am not voting for that man because right now
Speaker 1: my values do not align. But I know that if
Speaker 1: we lose democracy in this country, how the hell are
Speaker 1: we going to fight for the Palestinian people right and
Speaker 1: their humanity right right? Like that is It's just doesn't
Speaker 1: there's no logic that connects those two things. It won't happen,
Speaker 1: It cannot happen. It will be impossible.
Speaker 2: And souse here's the other part of the perfect storm
Speaker 2: of that though, Danielle, I wonder you. I want to
Speaker 2: put all this together. They've already started the narrative that
Speaker 2: it'll be because of us black folk. Yes, are gonna lose,
Speaker 2: But that's not true. It's because of this policy, but
Speaker 2: also because folks, I want to about to be aware
Speaker 2: of this. The entire media is focused on black men
Speaker 2: and black men not wanting to vote and black men
Speaker 2: not wanting to vote for Biden, and they find the
Speaker 2: most uninformed and I don't mean uninformed in terms of ignorance,
Speaker 2: just people just don't have information information less black men
Speaker 2: random black men to put on television to make these statements.
Speaker 2: They don't go and talk to black men who are
Speaker 2: informed ed or black men that can provide words of leadership,
Speaker 2: which is what we need now. Nothing more poiant than this.
Speaker 2: Cliff Albright of Black Voters Matter and I were in
Speaker 2: South Carolina two weeks ago. We were leaving after they
Speaker 2: had a big thing there rally right before the primary.
Speaker 2: We're black men, and Cliff Albright is one of the
Speaker 2: leading black men voter mobilization organizers in the country, if
Speaker 2: not the leading one. The plane we're waiting to board
Speaker 2: it lands we're about to board. A couple of people
Speaker 2: get off the plane who are major mainstream media reporters
Speaker 2: working on a story about black men and voting. Hey,
Speaker 2: with some good see brother, brother, brother, my man. All right, doctor,
Speaker 2: h what it is? Where you going? Are we about
Speaker 2: to go in and view some black men about voting?
Speaker 2: And we looked at each other, Cliff and I. We're
Speaker 2: black men in South Carolina? Who are you going to
Speaker 2: talk to? But there's this native I got to go
Speaker 2: find just any old random black person.
Speaker 1: Right now, you go the narrative. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that fits the narrative, and then.
Speaker 2: Not only that, elevate them on the media as and
Speaker 2: then so it becomes a self philip prophecy. Enough black
Speaker 2: folks see that, Oh, maybe that's what I'm supposed to
Speaker 2: not do either. I'm not supposed to vote right because
Speaker 2: television makes everybody a leader, unfortunately, a spokesperson, unfortunately, even
Speaker 2: if they're not qualified to be. So this is this
Speaker 2: is the very very slippery, slippery slope we're on. And
Speaker 2: if we don't do something, and let me tell you
Speaker 2: something else to white women, this is on y'all too.
Speaker 2: Y'all elected Trump, so don't be looking at us. Y'all
Speaker 2: got to do your job now. So far, it's been
Speaker 2: happening every election since the reversal of Row Democrats have won.
Speaker 2: I think that there's still a way to pull this
Speaker 2: out because Trump Trumps still gonna help us. He gonna
Speaker 2: continue to do crazy stuff between nine November and as
Speaker 2: we now know, the Appeals Court is another court is
Speaker 2: ruled that he's not immune from prosecution. So if this
Speaker 2: boils down to if people look at this to your
Speaker 2: point about democracy, let's let's crystallize it even more. If
Speaker 2: this boils down to folks, your vote could determine whether
Speaker 2: an individual can go back in office and part himself
Speaker 2: for all his crimes and become immune to crime. Now
Speaker 2: that kind of folks can kind of feel that it
Speaker 2: got so Wait wait wait, I'm not immune the crime.
Speaker 2: If I get a speeding ticket, I gotta pay the ticket.
Speaker 2: If I get arrested, I got so. So everybody, even
Speaker 2: white folks, feel that white folks get arrested. So that
Speaker 2: may have to be it for black people. If in
Speaker 2: fact the rumors are true, he's gonna pick either Ben
Speaker 2: Carson or Tim Scott. Uncle Tim, then Uncle Ben's rights
Speaker 2: or Uncle Tim. Then that will mobilize our electric because
Speaker 2: if this one thing even confused middle of the row,
Speaker 2: whatever uninformed black folks here, all black folks agree on
Speaker 2: is nobody likes Uncle Tom, so that may mobilize us.
Speaker 2: So there's still these variables out there, but that does
Speaker 2: not excuse the bad administration for making the steps it
Speaker 2: needs to make to get out of this crazy conflict.
Speaker 2: This is a lose lose situation for the bad administration.
Speaker 2: There's no way this can end. Well, they already and
Speaker 2: you helping, somebody tell you we allies, y'all't even like
Speaker 2: each other. Then y'all who can't stand stand you Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: and you know he's no good, so cut it out,
Speaker 2: cut it out, cease fire.
Speaker 1: Oh the Reverend Mark Thompson. I can't appreciate you enough.
Speaker 1: You are my dot connector, the history teller and weaver,
Speaker 1: and the Reverend on the front lines, united around, humanity around,
Speaker 1: and I just I appreciate you so so very much
Speaker 1: for making the time for WOKF.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Daniel. Always a pleasure to be with you
Speaker 2: in your audience. Folks, I'll see you along the barricades
Speaker 2: and along the front lines.
Speaker 1: That is it for me today, dear friends on wok F.
Speaker 1: As always, power to the people and to all the people. Power,
Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.