WEBVTT - The Writing on the Wall 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.600 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:20.040 Meet your Girl Daniel Moody recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:30.320 you know the Israel and Hamas war, and I use 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:39.320 warn quotations has been raging since October seventh, were hostages 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:50.840 were taken, people killed, and since then thirty thousand Palestinians 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:57.120 have been murdered, thirty thousand, most of them women and children. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:06.440 If you were looking to eviscerated people, you would do 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:13.480 so by murdering women and children. Children being the future 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:20.479 and women being the people with the uteruses that can 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:26.320 bear children. This is not a war, in my opinion, 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:34.559 because a war is when to countries, to groups. Two 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:46.639 tribes are utilizing the same tactics, access and going after 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.560 one another. That's not what this is and it's not 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:55.360 what it's ever been. The Palestinians don't have any guns 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.840 or rockets, and you can argue, oh, well, what about 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:05.400 how are we listening every single day as there are 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:15.359 bombs being dropped on Tel Aviv? No we're not on 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:22.840 Jerusalem and any other parts of Israel, Bethlehem, No we're not. 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:32.480 Those things are not happening. Life is going on except 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:44.200 for where there are occupied spaces where Palestinians live. This 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:52.760 is not and has not been, an equal war. This 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:59.120 has been about, as Netanyahu's own cabinet members have said, 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:13.160 getting rid of Palestinians and committing genocide. This world is 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:19.400 filled with so much fucking evil everywhere. Yesterday I talked 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:24.240 to you all about the beating of Next Benedict that 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:29.240 resulted in that child's death to traumatic brain injury. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.640 We have seen. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:44.280 Pictures of famine, complete and other utter devastation in Gaza, 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:54.280 in Congo, in Sudan, and in some ways we can 0:03:54.360 --> 0:04:00.560 become so desensitized to it. Oh, whis just what happens 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:09.000 to people over there? Oh well, if Next had just 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:15.560 gone along with everybody else, then they'd still be alive. Oh, 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.400 those kids didn't know what they were doing when they 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:25.600 were banging their head into the floor of the bathroom. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:34.320 Except we know what is happening. We know that language 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:42.720 is critical when working to other and to humanize other 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:48.880 groups of people to then be able to justify their obliteration, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:05:00.159 whether it's in a bathroom in Oklahoma, a church in 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:11.480 South Carolina, or the city of Rufa. I don't know 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.520 how to continue to wrap. 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:15.200 My mind. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:24.440 Around the amount of grief that we are all being 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:31.400 asked to hold every day. When I shared the story 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:39.640 yesterday of next, I took the day off from social media. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:45.400 After that, I went and did a deep dive into 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:50.320 you know, the TikTok story that's trending right now, the 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:59.279 fifty part series, because I just needed something else. I 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:12.200 needed a distraction, because the pain, the grief, the utter disregard. 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.640 I say this all the time that when I was 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:24.960 younger and I was learning about the Holocaust and watching 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:35.640 Schindler's List and my high school auditorium, I just kept asking, 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:41.599 like my history professors and teachers throughout the years, how 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:50.040 could this happen? How do six million people get murdered 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:53.800 and the world just go on? 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:57.640 And now I know. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:07.320 They didn't have an answer, right, the same question that 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:14.000 I asked when learning about enslaved Africans, who, by the way, 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:25.320 if you really want to know, like the treatment of 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:32.800 enslaved people, like the stories that I still learn are 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:45.240 just so like, oh my god, the depravity of white enslavers, 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:54.800 Like the absolute fucking depravity that you must have to 0:07:54.960 --> 0:08:03.640 treat another human being in such a way. It's astonishing 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.000 because those stories still make me sick because we don't 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.840 even know the half of the half. Why does America? 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.679 Why does the world repeat history? Because they don't fucking 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:31.760 teach it, not in its visceral, real, raw truth. You 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:36.160 learn about George Washington telling little lies and chopping down 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:41.360 a cherry tree, not ripping the teeth out of his 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.880 slaves and putting it in his own fucking mouth. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:53.199 You get said lies about Oh, a love affair between 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.480 Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings, not the fact that she 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:02.080 was a fourteen year old girl that was property and 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.520 raped unrelentingly. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:12.440 By a man double her age, whose children that she 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:17.320 would bear, who wouldn't even be able to be buried 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:21.280 and recognized in the same lot. That is love. That's 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:27.080 the love affair we were fucking spoon fed. Give me 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:36.440 a fucking break, just like we are told, right, Palestinian people, 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.040 they're violent people. They need to be herded up in 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:48.720 open air prisons and stripped of their self actualization, their liberty, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:58.120 their humanity. If your freedom relies on someone else's oppression, 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:04.120 you will never be free. So what are we talking 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:13.040 about these days? How much in humanity, how much depravity 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:18.319 we can take in on a regular basis while seemingly 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:25.600 trying desperately to hold onto our sanity and our own humanity, 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:31.120 because the way that we allow ourselves to become desensitized, 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:40.719 the more brutal this world will become. The other day, 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.520 was having a conversation and trying to figure out, oh, 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.920 are we going to cover the shooting after the super 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.800 Bowl on another show that I do, And folks are like, well, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:57.840 you know, the people that track mass shootings are going 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:02.360 to start to think about different ways to track because 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.640 there are just so many. And since only one person 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:12.920 was killed and twenty two injured, I said, what, so 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:19.240 now we've moved the needle. It's not enough to have 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.559 one death. We must have ten or twenty or thirty 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:29.080 or forty or fifty in order for it to be 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:36.079 worthy of coverage. So yeah, I took a beat yesterday 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.760 because I am so tired, Like my body is just 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:48.040 physically tired, and I keep thinking, like, what's wrong with me? 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:49.440 Am I coming down with something? 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:50.880 Am I Am? I sick? 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:59.880 No, not physically, but the weight of all this, it's 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.480 so heavy, it's so so heavy. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:04.400 And. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:16.720 I don't know. I do know though, that the ame 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:22.680 Church this week in an article in the New York 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:28.360 Times is saying what many of us are saying to 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:39.880 the Biden administration as it pertains to Gaza quote. What 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:44.720 we are saying is enough is enough. We felt we 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.920 needed to take it a step further because the money 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:54.599 issue must be addressed. Israel has a right to defend itself, 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.640 but why are we paying? Why are we paying for 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:08.360 the instruction of people? That is a quote from Bishop Richardson, 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:15.960 who presides over two hundred congregations in Texas. The Ame Church, 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:27.840 which boasts membership of three million Black Americans, are calling 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:36.320 for the Biden administration not only to issue and push 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:41.480 for a cease fire, but they are calling on this 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:49.000 administration to stop funding the destruction of a people. And 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:53.760 what they are saying as the base of the Democratic Party, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:14:03.280 is that black people are seeing what is happening and 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:09.360 their allegiance to the Democratic Party, based on it's on 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:18.360 wavering support for mass murder, is fraying their ability to 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:27.960 remain in Joe Biden's corner. So today, in my conversation 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:33.200 with our friend the Reverend Mark Thompson, host of Make 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:41.120 It Plain, we talk about this, and this is a 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:47.520 conversation that was recorded earlier, but with this new New 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:54.760 York Times piece entitled prominent Black church leader's call for 0:14:55.200 --> 0:15:00.520 end of USA to Israel, the African Methodist Episcopal Church 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:06.600 Bishop Council says American financial assistance to help Israel fight 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:12.400 its war in Gaza supports mass genocide. We're in trouble. 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:20.120 The Democratic Party is in fucking trouble, and I'm starting 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.240 to see the riding on the wall and it don't 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:27.680 look good. So if your body feels some days as 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:35.520 heavy as mine does this week, take a beat, rest, recuperate, 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.080 because we're gonna need every bit of strength to get 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:47.560 to November. Coming up next, my conversation with our dear friend, 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:56.800 the Reverend Mark Thompson. Folks, you know that whenever I 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.960 have the opportunity to welcome back to Woke Fi Daily, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.960 my friend the Reverend Mark Thompson, host of Make It 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:11.640 Plain and just all around incredible advocate justice warrior, I'm 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.160 always incredibly honored and pleased. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:15.440 Mark. 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:20.880 It's been a time. It has been a deep several 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:27.320 months in this country as we have are continuing to 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:34.000 bear witness to the atrocities in Gaza. Recently, the poll 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.760 numbers out for Biden of his handling right now of 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:44.240 what is happening the genocide that is taking place, is poor, 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.360 to say the very friggin' least. The poll numbers are 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:52.800 poor when looking at his handling. Sixty percent of people 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:57.640 believe that he is handling the situation in Israel and 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.040 in Gaza in the worst way. You have been a 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:07.280 part of what we have witnessed as a extraordinary push 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:13.120 and collaboration of black faith leaders across the country calling 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:16.680 for a ceasefire. I want to give you the opportunity 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:22.399 to bring us through the timeline that has led thousand 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:26.000 plus faith leaders, black faith leaders from across the country 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:33.359 to urge President Biden to say cease fire. Talk to 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:37.760 us about the initially the ad, the full page ad 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.360 that was taken out in the New York Times. 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.600 Well, first of all, Danielle, thanks for having me. It's 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.880 always an honor to be with you in the WOKF audience. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:51.680 First of all, Pastor Michael McBrien and Rever Doctor Barbara 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:56.440 William Skinner, Pastor Mike with the Black Church pag Doctor Skinner, 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.600 who was actually the founder of the annual Congressional Black 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:06.160 Caucus prayer Breakfast every year convened close to a thousand, 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.960 maybe more of us in Black clergy and African American clergy, 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:15.520 and not just those who were ordained, but anyone in 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:21.720 faith leadership in our communities to sign on to a 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:28.000 full page ad in the New York Times. That was 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:33.320 back in November, before Thanksgiving, and so about one thousand 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.520 signed on, and I think that number had even grown. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.200 But the likes of James Forbes and Jeremiah Wright, and 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:44.120 Jesse Jackson, and even James Lawson, who was in his nineties. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:50.760 James Lawson was the organizer of the Nashville sitting movement 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:55.080 and the organizer of the Memphis sanitation worker strike. He 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.000 went to India even before Doctor King did, and he 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:02.600 was usually Doctor king advanced person when it came to 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:07.200 setting up nonviolent campaigns. He signed on to this ceasefire, 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.760 and the ceasefire demanded a release on a release of 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.480 all the hostages, be they hostages held by the Israeli 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.600 government or hostages held by Hamas, and it called for 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:24.360 an immediate ceasefire that the A Biden administration would abide 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.439 by that and we had met with several officials in 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.760 the Biden administration. I'm sure your audience is aware that 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:35.960 within the administration there has been some pushback. There have 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:40.480 even been some mutinies, some resignations because there are those 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:44.720 with an administration who do not support the administration giving 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:52.320 unconditional arms to Israel to carry out what some have 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:58.639 even likened to a genocide. That has been the issue, 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.040 and so there was this full page ad in the 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:04.640 New York Times. We did some media around it, including 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:08.679 with Joy Reid, and then what you saw most recently 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:09.960 with the New York was the New York Times piece, 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:11.800 but just before the New York Times piece the day 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.520 after DoD King's birthday. We spent a couple of months 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.000 on it, and I admitted it was one of the 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:20.720 hardest things I've ever pulled together. But a group of 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.560 us were at a retreat and there was a songwriting workshop. 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.439 We were with Red Letter Christians in at the Alex 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:34.240 Haley Farm, and myself and Bill Ince and Phillip Jobert 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.880 of a great spiritual gospel group known as Common Hymnal. 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:40.600 You all can follow them at Common Hymnal. They just 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.679 released a single called God of Color. The two of 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:47.560 them plus the Reverend doctor Jack Sullivan and Bishop Dwayne 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:49.680 Royster just started writing a song and said, well, brothers, 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.600 why don't we write a song with some with some 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:55.000 relevant meaning and purpose today? And we wrote a Ceasefire 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.240 song and then we began to produce some music video. 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:00.399 I was pretty much the lead and organized as in it. 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.760 I confess, of all the things I've organized, this is 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:07.400 probably the toughest. It's easier for me just to organize 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:08.840 folks and to go to jail and to go to 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.359 jail on myself than it is doing music. Believe in 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:13.840 not folks, it really is. I mean, I can roll 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:16.280 out being go to jail, music video, something else. But 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.160 I don't feel so bad because it took a few months. 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:23.680 The Netflix documentary on All the World was released and 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.600 the song wasn't released for three months after they did 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:28.880 the recording, So I don't feel so bad. It didn't 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:30.440 take me quite three months. So I'm chilling in a 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:33.639 little bit better than we are the world. But we 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:38.800 released the Ceasefire song, the lead singer being Iana Gregory, 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:43.080 along with Common Hymnough and a host of some of 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:47.720 our friends and activists in the community, from Linda Sarsour 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:53.359 to Tamika Mallory, to the Reverend James Forbes again and 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.520 some of the individuals that were in the New York 0:21:56.560 --> 0:22:02.080 Times article, Reverend James Lost and Reverend Jeremiah Right. So 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:06.080 we did this around January sixteenth, and then in the 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.760 past what ten days or so, the New York Times 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:10.639 has done a story. So it's got a lot of 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.960 pick up in trafficking and why did this happen? I 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:16.200 don't know many clergy who aren't standing with us, because 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:21.320 how can you be a person of faith and not 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:26.680 decry the level of violence that is taking place and 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:31.600 the disproportionate number of Palestinians and Gossans, particularly young people 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:36.320 who are building, who are being killed in this. So 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:43.679 that's essentially what we've done. There's a call to prophetic 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:48.800 moral authority, a call that we are answering and to 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:53.159 say to the Biden administration, enough is enough. Now, there 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:56.760 are some who've gone so far as to say they 0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:02.240 may not support Joe Biden, for that is not a 0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:07.200 consensus by everyone because frankly, we know the alternative isn't better. 0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:11.879 But to be truthful, that's just us. I mean, we 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:15.520 can say what we are and are not gonna do, Danielle. 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.680 We're at a moment where they're those in the electorate 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.360 we don't know because they're not outfront like us. They're 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:24.640 not talking. And the longer this goes on, I think 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.200 the Biden administration will be naive or the campaign will 0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.040 be naive to say he's not losing votes every day. 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:35.119 He's got to win Michigan. Michigan is in peril electorally 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:38.920 for the Biden Harris ticket because of what is going 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:42.600 on in Gaza. I believe the Biden administration. I believe 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:44.439 them when they say they're trying to work out a solution. 0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:48.560 I think they're finally getting it. But when this happened 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:54.159 Daniel Moody on October seventh, ye I called several friends 0:23:55.440 --> 0:24:00.280 and I say, y'all, this is nineteen eighty Jimmy Carter 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.640 all over again. And folks didn't believe me at first, 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.760 but you'd be surprised. Just yesterday, I was with some 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:12.119 leaders in the Jewish community and they said, brother, you 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.200 said that. We didn't believe you, but you are absolutely right. 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:19.560 Because nettn Y'ahu, Putin and Trump are all working together. 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.480 This is more than about what's going on over there. 0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:24.960 It's also the impact what's going on over here. 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:32.400 Remind folks too about what exactly happened with Jimmy Carter 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.479 and why he ended up as a one term president. 0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.359 I mean, we will can say that he you know, 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:44.320 his influence did not wane and actually grew following his 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:48.159 time as President of the United States. But to your 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:53.640 earlier point, we are in a lot different, an extraordinarily 0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:58.000 different moment, I will say, a perilous one. But do 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:01.800 remind people of exactly what happened that then would usher 0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:03.359 in the first Bush. 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:10.800 There was an uprising in Iran against the Shah, who 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:15.440 was one of those royal family leaders that the United 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.520 States had propped up for decades, and people were sick 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:21.720 of it. So the Iranians had every right to throw 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:26.440 off that imperial regime. But in doing so, they took 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:32.760 hostages out of the American embassy, and they kept those 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:37.120 hostages for over a year so that Jimmy Carter would 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.359 lose the election to Ronald Reagan. 0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:40.840 Oh, Ronald Reagan. 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:45.520 Ronald Reagan and the great journalists who recently passed away, 0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.000 was a frequent guest on My show. Robert Perry uncovered 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:51.800 the whole plot. For those you've heard the term October surprise, 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:57.280 A lot of people get confused. October's surprise was a 0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:01.440 term coined by the Reagan people because they were fearful 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.840 that Carter might be able to rescue the hostages and 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:10.680 win the election. So the future CIA director under Reagan, 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:15.520 who would be William Casey, his running mate hw Bush, right, 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:21.879 both of them flew in a private plane to Paris 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:26.480 in the summer of nineteen eighty, a private plane provided 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.359 to them by the father of Osama bin Laden because 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:34.200 they were all friends. Then Osama bin Laden's father flew 0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:39.679 Casey and Bush to Paris to meet with the Ayatola 0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:43.840 and to convince the Ayatola to keep the hostages so 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:45.840 that they could win the election. And once they won 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:51.879 the election, they would trade arms with Iron. Hence you know, 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.280 trading arms for hostages. The whole thing Reagan was investigated for. 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.680 That was set up in nineteen eighty and that cost 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:01.479 car to the election. So when I saw October seventh, 0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.800 I said, wait a minute, got another Democratic president here. 0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:09.960 You create a world conflict and pull him into it 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:12.520 so that it costs him the election. Putin gets what 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.800 he wants by getting Trump back in, then Yahoo, who 0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:20.480 is the Trump of Israel, stays in power, and Putin 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.840 gets to keep Israel and the United States. If Trump 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.560 gets back in the United States pulls out of Ukraine. 0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:32.520 Putin then promises, then Yahoo, you stay out of Ukraine. 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:35.080 I win Ukraine. You get all the Gazans out of Gaza, 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:38.880 then I will relocate all of the Jews in Ukraine 0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:42.760 into the newly settled place of Gaza. So these that's 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.520 the nexus of what's going on. And so that's that's 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.360 that's what I saw it for and I still see 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:52.119 it for that. And the Biden administration is is naive. 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.080 I can't believe it this hour. They don't get it. 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.359 They may not be able to articulate it in the 0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.480 way that I am articulating in it articulating it, but 0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.320 I'm sure they're trying to figure out a way out, 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:03.680 and it may be too late. 0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:07.920 And that's the thing I mean. First of all, Mark, 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:13.680 thank you, thank you for connecting every single damn dot 0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:24.960 because the schemes are extraordinary of the Republican Party, treacherous, 0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:33.600 traitorous right and go back beyond before Donald Trump right 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:38.640 to bring us to this current place and moment. And 0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:46.560 I will tell you that while for the last several months, 0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:51.200 as this conflict has been going on and we have 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:55.200 watched now I don't even know what the number is, 0:28:55.360 --> 0:29:02.120 thirty thousand plus tens of thousands of people, children right 0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:08.800 be slaughtered relentlessly at the same time that you have 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:13.400 the current administration talking once again about the soul of 0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:19.000 this nation and holding on to democracy in this nation, 0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:25.160 and young people, black people, queer people, people of color 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:33.240 are asking themselves, wait a minute, what is going on here? 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.520 And I think for the first time the woll has 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:43.440 been pulled from people's eyes about this conflict in Israel 0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:50.000 and Gaza, in Israel and Palestine, and people are seeing 0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:57.440 it as not this extraordinarily complicated historical, you know, religious 0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:04.400 land ownership issue, but they are seeing it very clearly. 0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:10.120 Wait a minute, How does this oppressed people have the 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:17.680 ability to turn off water, food, access, right to aid 0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:23.920 in such a manner? And it is through right the 0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:29.520 courage I think of the South African government and the 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:33.320 lawyers that brought the case in front of the ICJ 0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:40.160 to say no, no, We've seen this before. We've seen 0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:44.040 and the world has seen this before. So I'm wondering, 0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:51.160 you know, how does this administration miss this fact? And 0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.640 people told me when this con when this started on 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:59.680 October seventh, they said, foreign affairs never plays into domestic elections. 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:06.440 I said, is that right, because I think that you're 0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.800 wrong and your assumption is that people are going to 0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:14.000 forget about this. Well, you can't go on any social 0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:18.480 media platform and avoid the videos and the pictures and 0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.880 the audio and all of the things in real time 0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:27.320 that are happening unfiltered by mainstream media, right right, right, 0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:35.520 So how does this administration not see and hear what 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.920 is going on, particularly again when polls just came out 0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:45.000 and sixty percent of Americans believe that he is failing 0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:47.080 in this war? Right now? 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:53.880 Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I think that you have 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.480 some generational issues. And I'm not just saying talking about 0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:00.760 Joe Biden's age. I think even the people around him 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:10.000 there at one time Apak had a disproportionate amount of 0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.240 influence in this country. It no longer has that. I 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.520 think there's a fear that he might if he does something, 0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:19.520 he may disaffect the Jewish electorate and lose their votes. 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.959 But many of the Jewish, many in the Jewish electorate 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.520 are out here in the streets with us, especially this 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:30.680 younger generation. They are saying not in our names. So 0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:39.080 there's there's just this this tone deafness. It's almost damned 0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:40.760 if he does and damned if he doesn't. But I 0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:45.280 think the most damning is to continue this. I think 0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:49.440 there's much more to lose in continuing this. And the 0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:54.880 quicker this administration can get out of this conflict, the better, 0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.840 the quicker this administration can distance itself. And you know, 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:02.520 the story is that Biden said to then Yahoo that 0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:05.040 this was costly for him politically, he could lose the election. 0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:07.600 And then Yahoo's response was, I don't give a damn 0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:12.720 right because this is about him. I think that they're 0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:16.640 over confident. They think that by telling so they want 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.560 to say, I'm hearing their argument to the black collector. 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.280 It is well influence chapter thirty five dollars. So y'all 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.680 should vote for us again. That's it. Now, that's good 0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.400 thing that you got the insulin cap. But a lot 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:32.280 of the things administration is done, even on the economic level, 0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:37.160 are not that tangibly felt and are not tangible enough 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.480 to say, oh my god, lets people get out here 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:44.080 and vote. The record number of women appointing to the 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:49.360 federal judiciary. That's tangible, but not immediate. You know, people 0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:53.880 won't really feel that until their number is called or 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:58.400 for years to come. So something that's on the news 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:03.440 every day, a literal slaughter. It's going to always overshadow 0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:08.480 things that are not tactile that you can touch, you know, 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:12.400 And I don't know how quick don't I assume the 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:16.200 insulin price reduction is kicked in the place, you know, 0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.400 But you know, I don't know that that in and 0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:23.520 of itself is enough. And you can't trade all these 0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:28.560 bodies for insulin and then add insult to injury. How 0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:30.520 on earth of all the luck they have? You know, 0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:35.520 at one time Jimmy Carter did plan a rescue. Something happened. 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.680