1 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Daniel Moody recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: you know the Israel and Hamas war, and I use 4 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: warn quotations has been raging since October seventh, were hostages 5 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: were taken, people killed, and since then thirty thousand Palestinians 6 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: have been murdered, thirty thousand, most of them women and children. 7 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: If you were looking to eviscerated people, you would do 8 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: so by murdering women and children. Children being the future 9 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: and women being the people with the uteruses that can 10 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: bear children. This is not a war, in my opinion, 11 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: because a war is when to countries, to groups. Two 12 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:46,639 Speaker 1: tribes are utilizing the same tactics, access and going after 13 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: one another. That's not what this is and it's not 14 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: what it's ever been. The Palestinians don't have any guns 15 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: or rockets, and you can argue, oh, well, what about 16 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: how are we listening every single day as there are 17 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: bombs being dropped on Tel Aviv? No we're not on 18 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: Jerusalem and any other parts of Israel, Bethlehem, No we're not. 19 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: Those things are not happening. Life is going on except 20 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: for where there are occupied spaces where Palestinians live. This 21 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: is not and has not been, an equal war. This 22 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: has been about, as Netanyahu's own cabinet members have said, 23 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: getting rid of Palestinians and committing genocide. This world is 24 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: filled with so much fucking evil everywhere. Yesterday I talked 25 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: to you all about the beating of Next Benedict that 26 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: resulted in that child's death to traumatic brain injury. 27 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: We have seen. 28 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Pictures of famine, complete and other utter devastation in Gaza, 29 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: in Congo, in Sudan, and in some ways we can 30 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: become so desensitized to it. Oh, whis just what happens 31 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: to people over there? Oh well, if Next had just 32 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: gone along with everybody else, then they'd still be alive. Oh, 33 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: those kids didn't know what they were doing when they 34 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: were banging their head into the floor of the bathroom. 35 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: Except we know what is happening. We know that language 36 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: is critical when working to other and to humanize other 37 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: groups of people to then be able to justify their obliteration, 38 00:04:54,080 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: whether it's in a bathroom in Oklahoma, a church in 39 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: South Carolina, or the city of Rufa. I don't know 40 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: how to continue to wrap. 41 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: My mind. 42 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: Around the amount of grief that we are all being 43 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: asked to hold every day. When I shared the story 44 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: yesterday of next, I took the day off from social media. 45 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: After that, I went and did a deep dive into 46 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, the TikTok story that's trending right now, the 47 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: fifty part series, because I just needed something else. I 48 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: needed a distraction, because the pain, the grief, the utter disregard. 49 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: I say this all the time that when I was 50 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: younger and I was learning about the Holocaust and watching 51 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Schindler's List and my high school auditorium, I just kept asking, 52 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: like my history professors and teachers throughout the years, how 53 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: could this happen? How do six million people get murdered 54 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: and the world just go on? 55 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: And now I know. 56 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: They didn't have an answer, right, the same question that 57 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: I asked when learning about enslaved Africans, who, by the way, 58 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: if you really want to know, like the treatment of 59 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: enslaved people, like the stories that I still learn are 60 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: just so like, oh my god, the depravity of white enslavers, 61 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: Like the absolute fucking depravity that you must have to 62 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: treat another human being in such a way. It's astonishing 63 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: because those stories still make me sick because we don't 64 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: even know the half of the half. Why does America? 65 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: Why does the world repeat history? Because they don't fucking 66 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: teach it, not in its visceral, real, raw truth. You 67 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: learn about George Washington telling little lies and chopping down 68 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: a cherry tree, not ripping the teeth out of his 69 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: slaves and putting it in his own fucking mouth. 70 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: You get said lies about Oh, a love affair between 71 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings, not the fact that she 72 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: was a fourteen year old girl that was property and 73 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: raped unrelentingly. 74 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: By a man double her age, whose children that she 75 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: would bear, who wouldn't even be able to be buried 76 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: and recognized in the same lot. That is love. That's 77 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: the love affair we were fucking spoon fed. Give me 78 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: a fucking break, just like we are told, right, Palestinian people, 79 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: they're violent people. They need to be herded up in 80 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: open air prisons and stripped of their self actualization, their liberty, 81 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: their humanity. If your freedom relies on someone else's oppression, 82 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: you will never be free. So what are we talking 83 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: about these days? How much in humanity, how much depravity 84 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: we can take in on a regular basis while seemingly 85 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: trying desperately to hold onto our sanity and our own humanity, 86 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: because the way that we allow ourselves to become desensitized, 87 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: the more brutal this world will become. The other day, 88 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: was having a conversation and trying to figure out, oh, 89 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: are we going to cover the shooting after the super 90 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: Bowl on another show that I do, And folks are like, well, 91 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, the people that track mass shootings are going 92 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: to start to think about different ways to track because 93 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: there are just so many. And since only one person 94 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: was killed and twenty two injured, I said, what, so 95 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: now we've moved the needle. It's not enough to have 96 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: one death. We must have ten or twenty or thirty 97 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: or forty or fifty in order for it to be 98 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: worthy of coverage. So yeah, I took a beat yesterday 99 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: because I am so tired, Like my body is just 100 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: physically tired, and I keep thinking, like, what's wrong with me? 101 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: Am I coming down with something? 102 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: Am I Am? I sick? 103 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: No, not physically, but the weight of all this, it's 104 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: so heavy, it's so so heavy. 105 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: And. 106 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I do know though, that the ame 107 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: Church this week in an article in the New York 108 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: Times is saying what many of us are saying to 109 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: the Biden administration as it pertains to Gaza quote. What 110 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: we are saying is enough is enough. We felt we 111 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: needed to take it a step further because the money 112 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 1: issue must be addressed. Israel has a right to defend itself, 113 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: but why are we paying? Why are we paying for 114 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: the instruction of people? That is a quote from Bishop Richardson, 115 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: who presides over two hundred congregations in Texas. The Ame Church, 116 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: which boasts membership of three million Black Americans, are calling 117 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: for the Biden administration not only to issue and push 118 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: for a cease fire, but they are calling on this 119 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: administration to stop funding the destruction of a people. And 120 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: what they are saying as the base of the Democratic Party, 121 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: is that black people are seeing what is happening and 122 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: their allegiance to the Democratic Party, based on it's on 123 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: wavering support for mass murder, is fraying their ability to 124 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: remain in Joe Biden's corner. So today, in my conversation 125 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: with our friend the Reverend Mark Thompson, host of Make 126 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: It Plain, we talk about this, and this is a 127 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: conversation that was recorded earlier, but with this new New 128 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: York Times piece entitled prominent Black church leader's call for 129 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: end of USA to Israel, the African Methodist Episcopal Church 130 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: Bishop Council says American financial assistance to help Israel fight 131 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: its war in Gaza supports mass genocide. We're in trouble. 132 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: The Democratic Party is in fucking trouble, and I'm starting 133 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: to see the riding on the wall and it don't 134 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: look good. So if your body feels some days as 135 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: heavy as mine does this week, take a beat, rest, recuperate, 136 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: because we're gonna need every bit of strength to get 137 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: to November. Coming up next, my conversation with our dear friend, 138 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: the Reverend Mark Thompson. Folks, you know that whenever I 139 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to welcome back to Woke Fi Daily, 140 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: my friend the Reverend Mark Thompson, host of Make It 141 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: Plain and just all around incredible advocate justice warrior, I'm 142 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: always incredibly honored and pleased. 143 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: Mark. 144 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: It's been a time. It has been a deep several 145 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: months in this country as we have are continuing to 146 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: bear witness to the atrocities in Gaza. Recently, the poll 147 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: numbers out for Biden of his handling right now of 148 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: what is happening the genocide that is taking place, is poor, 149 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: to say the very friggin' least. The poll numbers are 150 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: poor when looking at his handling. Sixty percent of people 151 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: believe that he is handling the situation in Israel and 152 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: in Gaza in the worst way. You have been a 153 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: part of what we have witnessed as a extraordinary push 154 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: and collaboration of black faith leaders across the country calling 155 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: for a ceasefire. I want to give you the opportunity 156 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: to bring us through the timeline that has led thousand 157 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: plus faith leaders, black faith leaders from across the country 158 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: to urge President Biden to say cease fire. Talk to 159 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: us about the initially the ad, the full page ad 160 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: that was taken out in the New York Times. 161 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Danielle, thanks for having me. It's 162 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 2: always an honor to be with you in the WOKF audience. 163 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: First of all, Pastor Michael McBrien and Rever Doctor Barbara 164 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: William Skinner, Pastor Mike with the Black Church pag Doctor Skinner, 165 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: who was actually the founder of the annual Congressional Black 166 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 2: Caucus prayer Breakfast every year convened close to a thousand, 167 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: maybe more of us in Black clergy and African American clergy, 168 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: and not just those who were ordained, but anyone in 169 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: faith leadership in our communities to sign on to a 170 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: full page ad in the New York Times. That was 171 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: back in November, before Thanksgiving, and so about one thousand 172 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: signed on, and I think that number had even grown. 173 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: But the likes of James Forbes and Jeremiah Wright, and 174 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson, and even James Lawson, who was in his nineties. 175 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: James Lawson was the organizer of the Nashville sitting movement 176 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: and the organizer of the Memphis sanitation worker strike. He 177 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: went to India even before Doctor King did, and he 178 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: was usually Doctor king advanced person when it came to 179 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: setting up nonviolent campaigns. He signed on to this ceasefire, 180 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: and the ceasefire demanded a release on a release of 181 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: all the hostages, be they hostages held by the Israeli 182 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: government or hostages held by Hamas, and it called for 183 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: an immediate ceasefire that the A Biden administration would abide 184 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: by that and we had met with several officials in 185 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: the Biden administration. I'm sure your audience is aware that 186 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: within the administration there has been some pushback. There have 187 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: even been some mutinies, some resignations because there are those 188 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: with an administration who do not support the administration giving 189 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: unconditional arms to Israel to carry out what some have 190 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 2: even likened to a genocide. That has been the issue, 191 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: and so there was this full page ad in the 192 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: New York Times. We did some media around it, including 193 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: with Joy Reid, and then what you saw most recently 194 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: with the New York was the New York Times piece, 195 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: but just before the New York Times piece the day 196 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: after DoD King's birthday. We spent a couple of months 197 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: on it, and I admitted it was one of the 198 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: hardest things I've ever pulled together. But a group of 199 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: us were at a retreat and there was a songwriting workshop. 200 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: We were with Red Letter Christians in at the Alex 201 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: Haley Farm, and myself and Bill Ince and Phillip Jobert 202 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: of a great spiritual gospel group known as Common Hymnal. 203 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: You all can follow them at Common Hymnal. They just 204 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: released a single called God of Color. The two of 205 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: them plus the Reverend doctor Jack Sullivan and Bishop Dwayne 206 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 2: Royster just started writing a song and said, well, brothers, 207 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: why don't we write a song with some with some 208 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: relevant meaning and purpose today? And we wrote a Ceasefire 209 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: song and then we began to produce some music video. 210 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: I was pretty much the lead and organized as in it. 211 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: I confess, of all the things I've organized, this is 212 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: probably the toughest. It's easier for me just to organize 213 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: folks and to go to jail and to go to 214 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: jail on myself than it is doing music. Believe in 215 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: not folks, it really is. I mean, I can roll 216 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: out being go to jail, music video, something else. But 217 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: I don't feel so bad because it took a few months. 218 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: The Netflix documentary on All the World was released and 219 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: the song wasn't released for three months after they did 220 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 2: the recording, So I don't feel so bad. It didn't 221 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: take me quite three months. So I'm chilling in a 222 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 2: little bit better than we are the world. But we 223 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: released the Ceasefire song, the lead singer being Iana Gregory, 224 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: along with Common Hymnough and a host of some of 225 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: our friends and activists in the community, from Linda Sarsour 226 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: to Tamika Mallory, to the Reverend James Forbes again and 227 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: some of the individuals that were in the New York 228 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: Times article, Reverend James Lost and Reverend Jeremiah Right. So 229 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: we did this around January sixteenth, and then in the 230 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: past what ten days or so, the New York Times 231 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: has done a story. So it's got a lot of 232 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: pick up in trafficking and why did this happen? I 233 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: don't know many clergy who aren't standing with us, because 234 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: how can you be a person of faith and not 235 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: decry the level of violence that is taking place and 236 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: the disproportionate number of Palestinians and Gossans, particularly young people 237 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: who are building, who are being killed in this. So 238 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 2: that's essentially what we've done. There's a call to prophetic 239 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: moral authority, a call that we are answering and to 240 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: say to the Biden administration, enough is enough. Now, there 241 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: are some who've gone so far as to say they 242 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: may not support Joe Biden, for that is not a 243 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: consensus by everyone because frankly, we know the alternative isn't better. 244 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: But to be truthful, that's just us. I mean, we 245 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: can say what we are and are not gonna do, Danielle. 246 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: We're at a moment where they're those in the electorate 247 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 2: we don't know because they're not outfront like us. They're 248 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 2: not talking. And the longer this goes on, I think 249 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: the Biden administration will be naive or the campaign will 250 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: be naive to say he's not losing votes every day. 251 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: He's got to win Michigan. Michigan is in peril electorally 252 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: for the Biden Harris ticket because of what is going 253 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: on in Gaza. I believe the Biden administration. I believe 254 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: them when they say they're trying to work out a solution. 255 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: I think they're finally getting it. But when this happened 256 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: Daniel Moody on October seventh, ye I called several friends 257 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: and I say, y'all, this is nineteen eighty Jimmy Carter 258 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: all over again. And folks didn't believe me at first, 259 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: but you'd be surprised. Just yesterday, I was with some 260 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: leaders in the Jewish community and they said, brother, you 261 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: said that. We didn't believe you, but you are absolutely right. 262 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: Because nettn Y'ahu, Putin and Trump are all working together. 263 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: This is more than about what's going on over there. 264 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: It's also the impact what's going on over here. 265 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: Remind folks too about what exactly happened with Jimmy Carter 266 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: and why he ended up as a one term president. 267 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: I mean, we will can say that he you know, 268 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: his influence did not wane and actually grew following his 269 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: time as President of the United States. But to your 270 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: earlier point, we are in a lot different, an extraordinarily 271 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: different moment, I will say, a perilous one. But do 272 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: remind people of exactly what happened that then would usher 273 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: in the first Bush. 274 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: There was an uprising in Iran against the Shah, who 275 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: was one of those royal family leaders that the United 276 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: States had propped up for decades, and people were sick 277 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: of it. So the Iranians had every right to throw 278 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: off that imperial regime. But in doing so, they took 279 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: hostages out of the American embassy, and they kept those 280 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 2: hostages for over a year so that Jimmy Carter would 281 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: lose the election to Ronald Reagan. 282 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: Oh, Ronald Reagan. 283 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan and the great journalists who recently passed away, 284 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: was a frequent guest on My show. Robert Perry uncovered 285 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: the whole plot. For those you've heard the term October surprise, 286 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: A lot of people get confused. October's surprise was a 287 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: term coined by the Reagan people because they were fearful 288 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: that Carter might be able to rescue the hostages and 289 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: win the election. So the future CIA director under Reagan, 290 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: who would be William Casey, his running mate hw Bush, right, 291 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: both of them flew in a private plane to Paris 292 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: in the summer of nineteen eighty, a private plane provided 293 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: to them by the father of Osama bin Laden because 294 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: they were all friends. Then Osama bin Laden's father flew 295 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: Casey and Bush to Paris to meet with the Ayatola 296 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: and to convince the Ayatola to keep the hostages so 297 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: that they could win the election. And once they won 298 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 2: the election, they would trade arms with Iron. Hence you know, 299 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: trading arms for hostages. The whole thing Reagan was investigated for. 300 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: That was set up in nineteen eighty and that cost 301 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 2: car to the election. So when I saw October seventh, 302 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: I said, wait a minute, got another Democratic president here. 303 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: You create a world conflict and pull him into it 304 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: so that it costs him the election. Putin gets what 305 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: he wants by getting Trump back in, then Yahoo, who 306 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: is the Trump of Israel, stays in power, and Putin 307 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: gets to keep Israel and the United States. If Trump 308 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: gets back in the United States pulls out of Ukraine. 309 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: Putin then promises, then Yahoo, you stay out of Ukraine. 310 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: I win Ukraine. You get all the Gazans out of Gaza, 311 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 2: then I will relocate all of the Jews in Ukraine 312 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: into the newly settled place of Gaza. So these that's 313 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: the nexus of what's going on. And so that's that's 314 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 2: that's what I saw it for and I still see 315 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: it for that. And the Biden administration is is naive. 316 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: I can't believe it this hour. They don't get it. 317 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: They may not be able to articulate it in the 318 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: way that I am articulating in it articulating it, but 319 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure they're trying to figure out a way out, 320 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: and it may be too late. 321 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: And that's the thing I mean. First of all, Mark, 322 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for connecting every single damn dot 323 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: because the schemes are extraordinary of the Republican Party, treacherous, 324 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: traitorous right and go back beyond before Donald Trump right 325 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: to bring us to this current place and moment. And 326 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: I will tell you that while for the last several months, 327 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: as this conflict has been going on and we have 328 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: watched now I don't even know what the number is, 329 00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: thirty thousand plus tens of thousands of people, children right 330 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: be slaughtered relentlessly at the same time that you have 331 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: the current administration talking once again about the soul of 332 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: this nation and holding on to democracy in this nation, 333 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: and young people, black people, queer people, people of color 334 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: are asking themselves, wait a minute, what is going on here? 335 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: And I think for the first time the woll has 336 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: been pulled from people's eyes about this conflict in Israel 337 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: and Gaza, in Israel and Palestine, and people are seeing 338 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: it as not this extraordinarily complicated historical, you know, religious 339 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: land ownership issue, but they are seeing it very clearly. 340 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, How does this oppressed people have the 341 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: ability to turn off water, food, access, right to aid 342 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: in such a manner? And it is through right the 343 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: courage I think of the South African government and the 344 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: lawyers that brought the case in front of the ICJ 345 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: to say no, no, We've seen this before. We've seen 346 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: and the world has seen this before. So I'm wondering, 347 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, how does this administration miss this fact? And 348 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: people told me when this con when this started on 349 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: October seventh, they said, foreign affairs never plays into domestic elections. 350 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: I said, is that right, because I think that you're 351 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: wrong and your assumption is that people are going to 352 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: forget about this. Well, you can't go on any social 353 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: media platform and avoid the videos and the pictures and 354 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: the audio and all of the things in real time 355 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: that are happening unfiltered by mainstream media, right right, right, 356 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: So how does this administration not see and hear what 357 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: is going on, particularly again when polls just came out 358 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: and sixty percent of Americans believe that he is failing 359 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: in this war? Right now? 360 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, you know, I think that you have 361 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: some generational issues. And I'm not just saying talking about 362 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: Joe Biden's age. I think even the people around him 363 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: there at one time Apak had a disproportionate amount of 364 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: influence in this country. It no longer has that. I 365 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: think there's a fear that he might if he does something, 366 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: he may disaffect the Jewish electorate and lose their votes. 367 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 2: But many of the Jewish, many in the Jewish electorate 368 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: are out here in the streets with us, especially this 369 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: younger generation. They are saying not in our names. So 370 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: there's there's just this this tone deafness. It's almost damned 371 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: if he does and damned if he doesn't. But I 372 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: think the most damning is to continue this. I think 373 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: there's much more to lose in continuing this. And the 374 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: quicker this administration can get out of this conflict, the better, 375 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: the quicker this administration can distance itself. And you know, 376 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: the story is that Biden said to then Yahoo that 377 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: this was costly for him politically, he could lose the election. 378 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: And then Yahoo's response was, I don't give a damn 379 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: right because this is about him. I think that they're 380 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: over confident. They think that by telling so they want 381 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: to say, I'm hearing their argument to the black collector. 382 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: It is well influence chapter thirty five dollars. So y'all 383 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: should vote for us again. That's it. Now, that's good 384 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: thing that you got the insulin cap. But a lot 385 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: of the things administration is done, even on the economic level, 386 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: are not that tangibly felt and are not tangible enough 387 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: to say, oh my god, lets people get out here 388 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: and vote. The record number of women appointing to the 389 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: federal judiciary. That's tangible, but not immediate. You know, people 390 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: won't really feel that until their number is called or 391 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: for years to come. So something that's on the news 392 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: every day, a literal slaughter. It's going to always overshadow 393 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: things that are not tactile that you can touch, you know, 394 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 2: And I don't know how quick don't I assume the 395 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: insulin price reduction is kicked in the place, you know, 396 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know that that in and 397 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: of itself is enough. And you can't trade all these 398 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: bodies for insulin and then add insult to injury. How 399 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: on earth of all the luck they have? You know, 400 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: at one time Jimmy Carter did plan a rescue. Something happened. 401 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: The rescue helicopters crashed in each other. Some people even 402 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: said there might have been some foul play in that. 403 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 2: But look at Biden. A drone strike hits a base 404 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 2: and it manages to take out of all the people 405 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 2: on that base, three black people, two young, beautiful black women. 406 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: What kind of luck is that for this amission? So 407 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: that's not endearing either. So so the plan I wouldn't 408 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: want to be in his position. But first things first, 409 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 2: get out of this conflict. Be be outspoken in terms 410 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: of how wrong this is, because I'm gona tell you 411 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: something else. So you alluded to this, Danielle, A lot 412 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: of young people are dying, a lot of teenagers after 413 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: that population of a teenage population, So what is that 414 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: really about? Y'all? Think about this. You kill these teenagers, siblings, parents, relatives, 415 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: what are you really doing? You are further radicalizing them 416 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: to join whatever the next organization will be. It won't 417 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: be Hermas because Harmas has running its course, financed by 418 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 2: bb Netnyahu, ignored by bb Nen Yahu on October. So 419 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: let's just kind of, you know, look away at this 420 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: because this is gonna help us. This is to ned 421 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: in Yahoo were not living, was Giuliani and w Bush. 422 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 2: So whatever this new thing is, they're going to try 423 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: to prop up because Israel and the Massade cannot allow 424 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: autonomous Palestinian leadership. It has to be controlled Hamads, so 425 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: you have Hamas. It doesn't support a two state solution. 426 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 2: Then Yahoo doesn't support a two state solutions. So this 427 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: next group where you're gonna get the recruits from, oh 428 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 2: from all the teenagers whose family members you killed because 429 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 2: war is an industry. I was talking with a very 430 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: influential Jewish leader just yesterday and they were, you know, 431 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: and let me tell you something. To my Jewish friend, 432 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: this is complicated. People are conflicted, Families are torn asunder 433 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 2: because and that's what is designed to do, cause confusion 434 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 2: and conflict even amongst families. And this person was like, well, Mark, 435 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: what are we gonna do? I said, he ask you 436 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 2: a question. Do you understand how war is an industry? 437 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: So what better way to keep an industry going than 438 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: the slaughter a bunch of people and leave only teenagers 439 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 2: remaining so they can be embittered and radicalized for the 440 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: rest of their lives to keep this thing going. So 441 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: that's really where we are and the Baden administration because 442 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: I mean, we got to be able to walk to 443 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 2: you guns saint time. We got to stop this, but 444 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 2: we also can't allow Trump to be reelected. Unfortunately Biden's 445 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 2: the only choice, but we got to figure this out. 446 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: My comments section mark on my pages have changed dramatically 447 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: over the last few months, where I have said in 448 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: episodes of my shows and videos that I have posted 449 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: that we're not voting for Joe Biden, we're voting for democracy. 450 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: I am not voting for that man because right now 451 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: my values do not align. But I know that if 452 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: we lose democracy in this country, how the hell are 453 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: we going to fight for the Palestinian people right and 454 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: their humanity right right? Like that is It's just doesn't 455 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: there's no logic that connects those two things. It won't happen, 456 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: It cannot happen. It will be impossible. 457 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 2: And souse here's the other part of the perfect storm 458 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 2: of that though, Danielle, I wonder you. I want to 459 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 2: put all this together. They've already started the narrative that 460 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 2: it'll be because of us black folk. Yes, are gonna lose, 461 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: But that's not true. It's because of this policy, but 462 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 2: also because folks, I want to about to be aware 463 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 2: of this. The entire media is focused on black men 464 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 2: and black men not wanting to vote and black men 465 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 2: not wanting to vote for Biden, and they find the 466 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 2: most uninformed and I don't mean uninformed in terms of ignorance, 467 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: just people just don't have information information less black men 468 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: random black men to put on television to make these statements. 469 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: They don't go and talk to black men who are 470 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 2: informed ed or black men that can provide words of leadership, 471 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 2: which is what we need now. Nothing more poiant than this. 472 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 2: Cliff Albright of Black Voters Matter and I were in 473 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 2: South Carolina two weeks ago. We were leaving after they 474 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 2: had a big thing there rally right before the primary. 475 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: We're black men, and Cliff Albright is one of the 476 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: leading black men voter mobilization organizers in the country, if 477 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 2: not the leading one. The plane we're waiting to board 478 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 2: it lands we're about to board. A couple of people 479 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 2: get off the plane who are major mainstream media reporters 480 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: working on a story about black men and voting. Hey, 481 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 2: with some good see brother, brother, brother, my man. All right, doctor, 482 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 2: h what it is? Where you going? Are we about 483 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 2: to go in and view some black men about voting? 484 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 2: And we looked at each other, Cliff and I. We're 485 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: black men in South Carolina? Who are you going to 486 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: talk to? But there's this native I got to go 487 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 2: find just any old random black person. 488 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: Right now, you go the narrative. You know what I'm 489 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: saying that fits the narrative, and then. 490 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 2: Not only that, elevate them on the media as and 491 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: then so it becomes a self philip prophecy. Enough black 492 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 2: folks see that, Oh, maybe that's what I'm supposed to 493 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 2: not do either. I'm not supposed to vote right because 494 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 2: television makes everybody a leader, unfortunately, a spokesperson, unfortunately, even 495 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: if they're not qualified to be. So this is this 496 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 2: is the very very slippery, slippery slope we're on. And 497 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: if we don't do something, and let me tell you 498 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: something else to white women, this is on y'all too. 499 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 2: Y'all elected Trump, so don't be looking at us. Y'all 500 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: got to do your job now. So far, it's been 501 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 2: happening every election since the reversal of Row Democrats have won. 502 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: I think that there's still a way to pull this 503 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 2: out because Trump Trumps still gonna help us. He gonna 504 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: continue to do crazy stuff between nine November and as 505 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: we now know, the Appeals Court is another court is 506 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 2: ruled that he's not immune from prosecution. So if this 507 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 2: boils down to if people look at this to your 508 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: point about democracy, let's let's crystallize it even more. If 509 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: this boils down to folks, your vote could determine whether 510 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 2: an individual can go back in office and part himself 511 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: for all his crimes and become immune to crime. Now 512 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 2: that kind of folks can kind of feel that it 513 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: got so Wait wait wait, I'm not immune the crime. 514 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 2: If I get a speeding ticket, I gotta pay the ticket. 515 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: If I get arrested, I got so. So everybody, even 516 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: white folks, feel that white folks get arrested. So that 517 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: may have to be it for black people. If in 518 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: fact the rumors are true, he's gonna pick either Ben 519 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: Carson or Tim Scott. Uncle Tim, then Uncle Ben's rights 520 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 2: or Uncle Tim. Then that will mobilize our electric because 521 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 2: if this one thing even confused middle of the row, 522 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 2: whatever uninformed black folks here, all black folks agree on 523 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: is nobody likes Uncle Tom, so that may mobilize us. 524 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 2: So there's still these variables out there, but that does 525 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 2: not excuse the bad administration for making the steps it 526 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: needs to make to get out of this crazy conflict. 527 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: This is a lose lose situation for the bad administration. 528 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: There's no way this can end. Well, they already and 529 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 2: you helping, somebody tell you we allies, y'all't even like 530 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 2: each other. Then y'all who can't stand stand you Joe Biden, 531 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 2: and you know he's no good, so cut it out, 532 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: cut it out, cease fire. 533 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:43,879 Speaker 1: Oh the Reverend Mark Thompson. I can't appreciate you enough. 534 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 1: You are my dot connector, the history teller and weaver, 535 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: and the Reverend on the front lines, united around, humanity around, 536 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: and I just I appreciate you so so very much 537 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: for making the time for WOKF. 538 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 2: Thank you, Daniel. Always a pleasure to be with you 539 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 2: in your audience. Folks, I'll see you along the barricades 540 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 2: and along the front lines. 541 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: That is it for me today, dear friends on wok F. 542 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: As always, power to the people and to all the people. Power, 543 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.