Speaker 1: It's twelve thirty nine in Auburn, California, and you're listening
Speaker 1: to Night Call, Hello and welcome Tonight Call, a podcast
Speaker 1: for your strange days and lonely nights. In Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: I'm test Lunch with Molly Lambert, and over in New
Speaker 1: York we have Emily Oshida. Hey, guys, we were going
Speaker 1: to start off Emily, you wanted to tell us about
Speaker 1: a little restaurant called Honey Brains. Well, I'm informed by
Speaker 1: our producer Rachel that this is not a new fast
Speaker 1: casual dining concept. I was pretty sure it was. I was.
Speaker 1: I was leaving my boxing class, which we can do
Speaker 1: a whole other episode about boxing class, which is my
Speaker 1: new favorite thing. Um and as I usually do in
Speaker 1: New York, walking around and googling salad on Google Maps,
Speaker 1: which is my lifestyle, and then turned around, Um, I
Speaker 1: didn't have anything near me. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: turned around and right I had been standing right in
Speaker 1: front of this bright yellow storefront for something called Honey Brains.
Speaker 1: And I think I had not registered it as being
Speaker 1: a place to eat because the logo looks like the
Speaker 1: UM the Freelancers Union logo of um be High. But
Speaker 1: there are so many things going on in this restaurant,
Speaker 1: and so it's and it's old news. I was excited
Speaker 1: that it was like a new um concept that I
Speaker 1: could talk about because I love talking about fast fast
Speaker 1: casual concepts. I thought this was something you me too.
Speaker 1: You texted us. I thought you said it's my idea
Speaker 1: for and I was like, well, that's a great Halloween
Speaker 1: fast casual restaurant. Honey Brains. Look, if I was starting
Speaker 1: a restaurant called Honey Brains, I feel like it would
Speaker 1: be it would be like, let's get ready to just
Speaker 1: eat bugs type type restaurant. Like what is that I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about? Honey Me, which is the soft serve place,
Speaker 1: and Korea two Honey Brains. Well, Honeybrains is like they've
Speaker 1: got salads, They've got sandwiches, they've got bowls. They also
Speaker 1: have juices, and I also sell an array of um
Speaker 1: rare and artisanal honeys and brains look rain sourced honeys. Um.
Speaker 1: There is a long spiel and the menu that I
Speaker 1: was reading about how it was founded by some kind
Speaker 1: of neuroscientists and maybe a dietician or something, and about
Speaker 1: how they were they were creating their own five food
Speaker 1: groups that were what you needed to have. Um, it's
Speaker 1: like neurofood. Yeah, it's like neuro food and they have
Speaker 1: a lot of it at the powders and a lot
Speaker 1: of supplements there too. But it feels like a green
Speaker 1: It does kind of feel like a cult. I was
Speaker 1: explaining to someone yesterday with the sources the source family,
Speaker 1: because my friend Mukta went on a tour of different
Speaker 1: cult locations in Los Angeles. The sources right above the strip.
Speaker 1: Right it is Cabocantina. Now nice cult. Yeah, I spent
Speaker 1: a lot of time in this past trip in l
Speaker 1: A going to various places for salads, and uh, I
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like I learned a lot. I
Speaker 1: feel like I learned a lot by only It's like
Speaker 1: it's like I have a blogging project of doing only
Speaker 1: one thing over and over again, except I'm not even
Speaker 1: blocking about It's just my life. But you're you're on
Speaker 1: a salad kick. Now now that I know that this
Speaker 1: is a real restaurant, I'm so much more confused. I
Speaker 1: thought this was going to be like your hall, Like
Speaker 1: my mind went to like it's a bowl and it
Speaker 1: comes in a container shaped like a skull. So it's
Speaker 1: like a bowl, but it looked like brains. It's like
Speaker 1: a grain bowl, but it's like a brain bowl. This
Speaker 1: is what I thought this was going to be. I
Speaker 1: first read it as honey braised, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that sounds disgusting. Honey, I mean it's less disgusting than
Speaker 1: honey brains. Because then he thought about honey braise. Do
Speaker 1: you think about braising a brain? And honey? How did
Speaker 1: somebody get to the how did this concept? This is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't understand how anybody like market
Speaker 1: tested any name that has the word brains in it. Brains.
Speaker 1: Maybe they were like, well, there's a very good restaurant
Speaker 1: called soup Plantation. Yes, that has a horrible name. I
Speaker 1: think sup Plantation has a great name. I think it's
Speaker 1: a better name than zup because I no, there's a
Speaker 1: place called zoop and there's none in l A. I
Speaker 1: was complaining onto what it does. Yes, I feel co
Speaker 1: I was trying for it, but yeah, I was complaining
Speaker 1: because I think if there were a restaurant that just
Speaker 1: sold soup and bread. No, the Plantation is a great restaurant.
Speaker 1: It just has a horrible names. No, I like the
Speaker 1: names to plantation and I know, I know, but it's memorable.
Speaker 1: It's defensive. But maybe that's what Honey Brains is going
Speaker 1: forward to. I'm saying, maybe they're like, you'll never forget
Speaker 1: I just I just loove. I went in there and
Speaker 1: it was it was like, you know, laptop seeing like
Speaker 1: everybody was just working on their laptops in there, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I was thinking it was a new place,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, it's so ridiculous. How you
Speaker 1: just have to have a few signifiers, like some fancy
Speaker 1: honey on the wall and some some cold press juice
Speaker 1: and like a selection of bowls and avocado toasts, and
Speaker 1: everyone'd be like, yes, this is my office. Now I'm
Speaker 1: at home here and while you're at a place called
Speaker 1: I just I'm sorry. I'm sure that they're very very
Speaker 1: well intentioned people, Honey Brains. If you work for Honey Brains,
Speaker 1: please shut us out and let us know what kind
Speaker 1: of company they are to work for. But it's not
Speaker 1: It could also be Sit the Star. Maybe, I mean,
Speaker 1: didn't Cafe Gratitude turn out to be part of like
Speaker 1: a multi level marketing scheme? Oh I don't have the
Speaker 1: last time I went there, either side of me, people
Speaker 1: were talking about Landmark. They were talking about Oh, that's
Speaker 1: what it is, that's Sam Landmark. Yeah, what is it? Well,
Speaker 1: first we should explain what Cafe Gratitude Uni Gratitude is
Speaker 1: my favorite, favorite favorite restaurant. Everything is called like I
Speaker 1: am grateful, I am whole. It's like you have to
Speaker 1: order things by saying I am energetic. There's nothing better
Speaker 1: than like some fake hippie bullshit covering up something incredibly sinister.
Speaker 1: I hear they have really good key Line pie. All
Speaker 1: their desserts are amazing. Everyone likes the food there. And
Speaker 1: then they are part of Landmark, which is like a
Speaker 1: team building Ponzi scheme. Oh this is the one where
Speaker 1: you go to the retreat and you can't talk about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: now I remember, um no it was. It was for
Speaker 1: real and also just to defend the honor of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: It was a San Francisco based company. The first time
Speaker 1: I ever went, I ever went to Gratuated in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and it was so much less like what it is now,
Speaker 1: Like it's so sleek now. Emily and I were in
Speaker 1: New York together once and we went to a place
Speaker 1: called Connecticut Muffin. I don't know if we've talked about
Speaker 1: this before, but we were like Connecticut Muffin. There's like
Speaker 1: this part of Manhattan where there's all these muffin places,
Speaker 1: and we were like, oh, the nineties muffin boom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a block and there's like a Muffin block in
Speaker 1: the Upper west Side and it's so appropriate. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we pitched we pitched a show in our
Speaker 1: minds about like the Muffin Wars, the New York like
Speaker 1: Upper west Side Muffin Wars, the of the early to
Speaker 1: mid nineties and catch Fire of Muffins. Yeah, just like
Speaker 1: remember when people were like a healthy breakfast, a big muffin,
Speaker 1: a big muffin, and then it became Muffin Tops, which
Speaker 1: was also a confused Well, that episode takes place during
Speaker 1: the muffin The show is called Muffins if you would
Speaker 1: like to buy it, What about Muffin Tops? Though the
Speaker 1: show is called Muffin Top because it's about getting to
Speaker 1: that to the top of the Boston. Test and I
Speaker 1: both watched a show on Netflix. We did that. We
Speaker 1: said we were going to watch last week. I don't
Speaker 1: think Emily had time to watch it. But don't worry.
Speaker 1: You missed not a lot. A lot of people have
Speaker 1: been telling us about the Haunting of hill House and
Speaker 1: saying it was really good, and I don't know that. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't say it was good about it? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were steered wrong. However, I heard that it gets better
Speaker 1: until the final episode, which I have heard also is underwhelming.
Speaker 1: I've only made it through two episodes, Molly, is that
Speaker 1: far or a little bit ahead? You guys, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? This is not a very good show.
Speaker 1: Did not really like this show? Tell me all of
Speaker 1: your problems with it. Okay, So first of all, I
Speaker 1: was like, I must be like a hard horror friction
Speaker 1: nerd because all the liberties. I was like, why even
Speaker 1: call it the Haunting of hill House? This has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the book The Haunting of Hill House
Speaker 1: Shirley Jackson, which is the Jackson book, of which there
Speaker 1: are two movie adaptations, both of which are good in
Speaker 1: their own ways. Um, but again I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like a much more faithful adaptation of the book than
Speaker 1: this is. This is just something called the Haunting of
Speaker 1: hill House. But it's like Bloodline with ghosts. Oh see,
Speaker 1: I thought I described it as being like, this is
Speaker 1: us with ghosts, and I was like, this is ghosts.
Speaker 1: It's too many Okay, so too many characters. There's it's
Speaker 1: a family. They all look exactly exactly like except the
Speaker 1: druggy brother, Carla Cook you know, and Elizabeth rees Are
Speaker 1: are indistinguishable from one another, as is the one who
Speaker 1: plays Theodora. Yeah, is that Elizabeth Reeser? That's that's the question.
Speaker 1: The mom, one of the moms and the daughter are
Speaker 1: like facially so similar that it becomes incredibly confusing, but
Speaker 1: like not in a way that's interesting. The reason the
Speaker 1: original is scary is because it's about a random group
Speaker 1: of people who come to a haunted house to look
Speaker 1: for ghosts, and then a bunch of funked up things happened,
Speaker 1: and you like sort of find out the backstory of
Speaker 1: the house eventually, but a lot of it is just
Speaker 1: like random and for no reason. And this is like
Speaker 1: somebody was like, let's motivate everything very specifically to this
Speaker 1: one family. The main guy who is like from Tremay
Speaker 1: King character, Yeah, I was like I hate this guy
Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh, it's because he's Sunny
Speaker 1: from Tremay. Yeah. I was just like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wasn't a six ft under person either, and that's
Speaker 1: also kind of what I felt like this was going for.
Speaker 1: I have to say the pilot of The Haunting of
Speaker 1: Hill House was so much less good than the second
Speaker 1: episode that I am probably going to keep watching it.
Speaker 1: The pilot had some really strange uh gears churned in
Speaker 1: a way that there was a monologue, um lot of monologues,
Speaker 1: the device of using a cell phone with the character's
Speaker 1: names so that they can all call each other, and
Speaker 1: eventually you are drilled on who's who. It just is
Speaker 1: like drawing more attention to the fact that they are
Speaker 1: all identical and have nothing really like. They're just these
Speaker 1: little cutouts of people, so there's nothing like to grab
Speaker 1: onto except for the matriarch, Carla is it Gugino or
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love frst grade and everything she
Speaker 1: in Wayward Pines. I was like, I would watch fifty
Speaker 1: hours of this just for Carla. She's amazing, you know what.
Speaker 1: I also was like, this got made because of Hereditary.
Speaker 1: Oh see, I was like, this is exactly like season
Speaker 1: one of American Horror Story. Oh yeah, but it's been
Speaker 1: good turned around for Hereditary would be a little too
Speaker 1: tight for responsive content to that. So I am a
Speaker 1: person who's never read the Shirley Jackson book. I've never
Speaker 1: seen either of the Hunting of Hella House movies. I
Speaker 1: know I've gathered on Twitter that a lot of people
Speaker 1: are specifically upset that in some way this new show
Speaker 1: goes against like some kind of principle of the original paterial,
Speaker 1: Like I'm so familiar with it, what I would have
Speaker 1: no idea to know how or or what that is.
Speaker 1: But do you guys have a sense of like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It seemed like it was like a
Speaker 1: Shirley Jackson would be really no no grave type thing.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I mean, my guests, I don't
Speaker 1: think we're far enough along. But so far the Shirley
Speaker 1: Jackson book, it's like it's all about, you know, eerie
Speaker 1: things and there's not that much happening, but it's like
Speaker 1: a psychological kind of terror situation. Yeah, it's like people
Speaker 1: going crazy in a house together and none of the
Speaker 1: things are confirmed ever to have happened, And you kind
Speaker 1: of wonder if it's like one person who's so disturbed
Speaker 1: that their energy is just like disturbing everyone who's coming
Speaker 1: into the house into their field kind of thing. Right.
Speaker 1: In the book, it's like four people. I think it's
Speaker 1: like a ghost hunter, a sexy lesbian, and a woman
Speaker 1: who's like very disturbed because she had to raise her
Speaker 1: ailing mother for many years. Oh yeah, she was like
Speaker 1: taking she was like her parents. And they all agree
Speaker 1: to be part of a study that the ghost hunter
Speaker 1: is running where they're going to like go to this
Speaker 1: legendarily haunted house that like a millionaire built for his
Speaker 1: wife and like. And then there are the caretakers who
Speaker 1: are kind of like the creepy the creepy people who
Speaker 1: come by and just act strange and then won't stay overnight,
Speaker 1: which are also in the um TV show. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's about like being in this isolated house and like
Speaker 1: weird things are happening, and maybe some kind of cool
Speaker 1: gay stuff happens, and it's all very ambiguous though it's
Speaker 1: like you don't fully know. And then at the end
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, Uh, the kind of more disturbed woman gets
Speaker 1: like taken over by the house. The house like starts
Speaker 1: to possess her, uh, and the spirits of the dead children.
Speaker 1: I think it's what you find out that live in
Speaker 1: the house they're like buried inside the house. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: like a child in the walls and stuff. There's like
Speaker 1: genuinely terrifying. This show is just like all exposition. Like
Speaker 1: the mean where they introduced the hot lesbian who's now
Speaker 1: one of the sisters, is just like she picks up
Speaker 1: a girl and then she's like, hey, I can't stay,
Speaker 1: gotta go that I wear gloves and that's my deal,
Speaker 1: and then she dies, no wrong, no wrong. Sisters. See
Speaker 1: they look exactly alike. Yeah. See, this is the thing
Speaker 1: is there's three sisters, two brothers. The brothers you can
Speaker 1: tell apart. Because someone was like, the men should look different,
Speaker 1: but the women can just all look exactly the same.
Speaker 1: And I think the acting like everyone's doing their best.
Speaker 1: I think, but there's just not that much to do
Speaker 1: yet and maybe there will be by the way. Um.
Speaker 1: Someone on the night called Facebook said that Molly looks
Speaker 1: exactly like the child actor who plays Shirley in the flashbacks. Wait, really,
Speaker 1: is that Lulu or whatever? So I thought she looked
Speaker 1: just like your daughter. Oh no, now now the very
Speaker 1: distanct just like my daughter. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: wonder what this is gonna be like for tests when
Speaker 1: she watches the show, I wasn't loving her arc and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: these people are roughly like between you know, late twenties
Speaker 1: and forty the characters in present day. Then they do
Speaker 1: the flashbacks to their childhood too, which would presumably be
Speaker 1: the mid to early nineties, I guess, or early nineties,
Speaker 1: and they make the nineties look like it's ninety six,
Speaker 1: where it's like I'm using a polaroid camera because that's
Speaker 1: all that exists here in the nineties. It's not I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's shot in Atlanta. The real failure of
Speaker 1: it is that the house isn't scary. The house doesn't
Speaker 1: feel very scary. It doesn't feel scary. Also, I just
Speaker 1: think it's it totally lacks like any specificity, and that's
Speaker 1: the thing. It lacks like a sense of place because
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be New England, but it's Atlanta. No.
Speaker 1: I thought it was well in the book, it was
Speaker 1: never clarified where it was, but in my mind New England.
Speaker 1: See in my mind there in Boston a bunch. So
Speaker 1: I was like, they must be near the house. I
Speaker 1: thought it was in northern California when at that on
Speaker 1: the of she's from New Hampshire. That's maybe where my
Speaker 1: mind is going. Do you guys have any uh like
Speaker 1: idea of how a horror TV show could work? Because
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe there's been one and a half
Speaker 1: successes so far, But like I'm a person who starts
Speaker 1: watching every single episode of American horror story and then
Speaker 1: just can't follow you on it. It just like I
Speaker 1: loses my interest. Um, I like anthology. Yeah, Twilight Zone
Speaker 1: entails from the crypt to me hold up incredibly well
Speaker 1: to this day. And I think it's because also, if
Speaker 1: you are going to draw a character that's a little
Speaker 1: bit thin for the purposes of like a story arc,
Speaker 1: it's like fine, if they only have to exist for
Speaker 1: one episode, you don't need to know every single thing
Speaker 1: about them. Ever, what I thought was super weird about
Speaker 1: this series is that there's it does not seem like
Speaker 1: a fit for Netflix. It seems like Network, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it reminded me so much of Wayward Pines,
Speaker 1: which I actually enjoyed because Wayward Pines leaned so far
Speaker 1: into the campiness. But this is it seems like it
Speaker 1: wants to get prestigious trying to be prestige and it's
Speaker 1: very like serious. I watch all horror on television, I'm
Speaker 1: like a dent down for because I'm excited that it's
Speaker 1: here now. You know, it's like a little bit of
Speaker 1: a freer landscape than it used to be. And it
Speaker 1: totally started with like Walking Dead, and I'm so glad
Speaker 1: that there are things that are not Walking Dead that
Speaker 1: are popular now that can be called horror television. I
Speaker 1: feel like I was really into like, and I surprisedly
Speaker 1: stuck with for a while. Is um Penny Dreadful? I
Speaker 1: really because it was just like it was just like
Speaker 1: goofy Victorian ship and it's so over the top and
Speaker 1: so melodramatic and so like kind of hot too. And
Speaker 1: then the movie version of from Hell Are We Steampunk?
Speaker 1: Is that where this is? I don't think that Penny
Speaker 1: Dreadful counts as steampunk. There's not enough I think on
Speaker 1: any Victorian that No, then there's no reason to use
Speaker 1: the steampunk able. If all Victoriana is steampunk, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: let's ask our listeners. Is Victoriana steampunk? Is Dracula steampunk?
Speaker 1: Frankenstein steampunk? Because he's got bolts in his house. When
Speaker 1: you say things like is Dracula steampunk? It makes it
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You're leading the listener speaking
Speaker 1: of Victorian horror and like old timey creepy thing. Yes
Speaker 1: speak punk. Also, to be more exactly, doesn't producer Rachel
Speaker 1: have something to contribute to our podcast related to last
Speaker 1: week's episode? H Rachel? Hi? Rachel Rachel is on our
Speaker 1: on the on the Knobs. Uh and and Rachel like
Speaker 1: piped up after last week's episode to say, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been watching the SMR plague doctor for years. What's
Speaker 1: his official name? Okay? So the guy his his YouTube
Speaker 1: channel is called ephemeral Rift. So like in the world
Speaker 1: of like crazy weird h a s MR YouTube rabbit holes. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there's the usual like people who do like
Speaker 1: I'm cutting your hair, I'm just going to be a
Speaker 1: librarian kind of role plays, and then there's people like
Speaker 1: ephemeral Rift who decided to do entirely HP Lovecraft themed
Speaker 1: role placed. Um do you know anything about him and
Speaker 1: his origins or like what made him get into it. Um,
Speaker 1: he's just like a fortysomething year old dude who is
Speaker 1: like I just kind of want to do this um,
Speaker 1: and he started out with like a couple of characters.
Speaker 1: He had, like a doctor and all of almost all
Speaker 1: of his stuff takes place in Arkham Sanitarium, like as
Speaker 1: in not the Batman one, as in the HP Lovecraft
Speaker 1: one and so went up here, and so there's this,
Speaker 1: there's the doctor, there's a doctor Clemens, and then there's
Speaker 1: the doctor the wife Margaret, and then there's also he
Speaker 1: got a plague doctor mask and he's like, guys, help
Speaker 1: me name this plague doctor. And they named him Corbus
Speaker 1: Clements and decided that he is the brother of the
Speaker 1: other Dr Clements. Is there any other SMR that's this
Speaker 1: like plotted not? I don't think quite so much. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of like steam punk a SMR role
Speaker 1: plays like that are one offs. There's also a couple
Speaker 1: of people who do like a couple of episodes of
Speaker 1: like one character. There's like a storyline that I found
Speaker 1: across a whole bunch of artists who I'm not even
Speaker 1: sure know each other about like hunting a vampire and
Speaker 1: they're all just whispering talking about looking for this vampire
Speaker 1: and all, and there's like one person who is the vampire,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't even off these people know
Speaker 1: each other if they just were like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: join in on this, dude, how do you follow this plot?
Speaker 1: I can't hear anything that anyone's saying in a s
Speaker 1: m R. I thought that was the point. Are you
Speaker 1: just like you're just learning it way up and here?
Speaker 1: And they're like, I guess, so you fall asleep about
Speaker 1: halfway through, but like the plots are not hard to follow.
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, I am a doctor, I am
Speaker 1: going to talk to you. It does legitimately help you
Speaker 1: fall asleep. For me, it doesn't. Well, I was he's
Speaker 1: not meant to be He's definitely not meant to be terrifying.
Speaker 1: He's meant to be very silly, like he's like doing
Speaker 1: it over the top, like what is the beaking? Who knows?
Speaker 1: I could toute? So he has like masks are just
Speaker 1: so scary and the lighting is scary, like they're meant
Speaker 1: to be creepy and evocative, but like not really scary.
Speaker 1: There's like a couple of ones where he's just like
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just gonna hang out here at a
Speaker 1: party and do a SMR. There's something also, I think
Speaker 1: I guess because I, in my limited awareness of SMAR,
Speaker 1: I feel like most of the people who do it
Speaker 1: that I've seen are women. So it's it's interesting. He's
Speaker 1: so interesting in quote that to have this forty something
Speaker 1: your old man in a scary mask trying to whisper
Speaker 1: you to sleep. I was watching another clip because I
Speaker 1: was going through this account and you're telling me about
Speaker 1: him before we started recording, and there's one where he's
Speaker 1: like in some kind of like leather suit and the
Speaker 1: sound of the leather is really amped, at least I
Speaker 1: felt from my my phone speaker, and that was like
Speaker 1: the opposite of a s MR to me. Some people
Speaker 1: like that though that some people really like listen, I
Speaker 1: mean sounds, and like some people like the blocks together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it isn't and it is a fetish, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that I wouldn't put me to sleep. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: So I was like, this is interesting, but it would
Speaker 1: definitely keep me awake all night, afraid of being geeked,
Speaker 1: be afraid of having dreams about the plague. Doctor. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess it's just because I've seen so many of
Speaker 1: his videos where he just like talking about like raising
Speaker 1: his son and like drinking beer. Okay, okay, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Like he has these characters and then he also has
Speaker 1: a lot of videos where he just like talks about
Speaker 1: his philosophies online and he's not in costume. Was not
Speaker 1: in costume because I saw his face in one of them. Yeah, interesting,
Speaker 1: friendly looking. He looks like a graphic designer does look like. Alright,
Speaker 1: so I'm not super scary. I just wanted to say
Speaker 1: thank you to Rachel for contributing. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I'm always happy to talk about the weirdo a sm
Speaker 1: artists like Sorrness will knowledge for us when we were
Speaker 1: genuinely in the darks and for listeners. Another another one
Speaker 1: who does like more interesting role plays as Phoenician sailor
Speaker 1: who is also like a forty year old dude, and
Speaker 1: I think he's friends with the other guy. Wait to
Speaker 1: go down this worm hole, man, Wait, Rachel, while we
Speaker 1: have you on the line, did I hear that you
Speaker 1: had something to say about escape rooms? Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: used to work at one um. How this was kept
Speaker 1: from us for so long? I know what did you do?
Speaker 1: What was your role in the escape room? We had
Speaker 1: to solve the puzzle and find out. Yeah, well, my
Speaker 1: title was game master and I have an awesome shirt
Speaker 1: that says game master on it. Basically, we were supposed
Speaker 1: to like put people in a room, give them the
Speaker 1: intro about like what the back story of the room
Speaker 1: was and uh, and then we would like watch them
Speaker 1: when they were in the room, make sure they didn't
Speaker 1: break anything, help them along if they were really stuck.
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't be in the room, you just be
Speaker 1: watching them through cameras and like a disembodied voice you
Speaker 1: could be like try the third one. Pretty low text
Speaker 1: of like we had phones in every room, but like
Speaker 1: but like cooler though I like that, I would you
Speaker 1: like call us if you need some help. A couple
Speaker 1: of times we had children where I did have to
Speaker 1: stay in the room with them because they were really nervous.
Speaker 1: They get scared. How old were the kids, I mean,
Speaker 1: how old you have to be to be an escape room?
Speaker 1: I didn't know they like children in escape room. I
Speaker 1: didn't think so. The official rule of the place that
Speaker 1: I worked was you had to be fourteen if you
Speaker 1: didn't have this like a supervision. But like sometimes parents
Speaker 1: would book it for six twelve year old and didn't
Speaker 1: tell us six twelve year olds. I'm just like, no way.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they were really like precocious children who were like
Speaker 1: really into solving the puzzles, because some children are really
Speaker 1: good at solving puzzles, really into being somewhere only fourteen
Speaker 1: year olds can go. Wait, what were some of the
Speaker 1: escape room stories that you wove? So the place had
Speaker 1: four rooms. There was one that was basically like the
Speaker 1: cube um, which was basically just like a walls of white.
Speaker 1: There was a murder room that was like really mess
Speaker 1: messed up um. It was like like, oh, you think
Speaker 1: your neighbor might be a serial killer? Spoiler alert. So
Speaker 1: this comes back to honey Brains one of them, because yeah,
Speaker 1: because all of us had more than one job, because
Speaker 1: you can't make a living working in an escape room.
Speaker 1: So one of my colleagues also weren't honey Brains. And
Speaker 1: it was the escape room. Was that like because I was?
Speaker 1: I was? That was like an NY neighborhood. It was
Speaker 1: just like it was the escape room also in the
Speaker 1: n YU neighborhood. No, it was in Chinatown. Oh huh.
Speaker 1: But you said you got a lot of college kids,
Speaker 1: they're like college kids. You get a lot of drunk
Speaker 1: college kids. Drunk adults a lot of team building exercises. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I feel like if I were drunk, the last
Speaker 1: thing I would want to do is kind of figure
Speaker 1: something out. And almost always, like the ten PM group,
Speaker 1: which is like the last group of the day, would
Speaker 1: come in like very drunk, and we would have to
Speaker 1: deal with them a not knowing what they were doing,
Speaker 1: be possibly breaking stuff, or like see a couple of
Speaker 1: times like a person has passed out in the room
Speaker 1: and their friends don't pay any attention to them. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, wow, that's in the escape room. I feel
Speaker 1: like every time we're talking about something like this and
Speaker 1: like someone throw up. Not in ours. But we found
Speaker 1: a I found this wonderful Reddit thread that was what's
Speaker 1: the worst thing that's happened in an escape room that
Speaker 1: you used to work? And a lot of the stories
Speaker 1: are have to do with like bodily fluids and can
Speaker 1: you can you email that to me this somehow? So
Speaker 1: there's there's a whole sub credit of former or current
Speaker 1: employees of escape rooms. I love that. This is This
Speaker 1: is why I feel like sometimes I have a little
Speaker 1: bit of a space for affection for reading. Oh, I
Speaker 1: have an update about Reddit that someone corrected us. Okay,
Speaker 1: so when I was telling you guys about the house
Speaker 1: with the bats, you know, I was like, all bats
Speaker 1: have rabies. False, and so a friend of bats has
Speaker 1: has been like no, six percent or something like that
Speaker 1: of bats have rabies, but you are most likely to
Speaker 1: get rabies from a bat bite. There we go, So
Speaker 1: it's like, not all of them have rabies, but I
Speaker 1: guess they're going to bite. Then, yeah, like a rabid bat.
Speaker 1: You're more likely to get rabies from a rabid bat
Speaker 1: than like a rabbit dog. I don't know what you're saying, correcting.
Speaker 1: We can be friends with the bats, friends with all bats.
Speaker 1: So we're going to check the nightcall mail bag, flash voicemail.
Speaker 1: We have a really excited brief Cremin's update, which was
Speaker 1: that I read a science article that I sent to
Speaker 1: you guys about that incident that said it's okay to
Speaker 1: eat some cremines that it won't won't hurt, it's not toxic,
Speaker 1: it's probably eating fingernails. Well, then there was a quote
Speaker 1: from one of the kids who had eaten the cookies
Speaker 1: with the cremins in them, where he was like, you
Speaker 1: could taste these little like gritty gray flex in the cookies. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, if he after you know that you've just
Speaker 1: eaten cremins cookies, you're for sure gonna have to be
Speaker 1: like I knew it. I knew it. Otherwise, every time
Speaker 1: you eat something, it's possible that it's a cremains thing. Again,
Speaker 1: that's what I thought honey brains is going to be.
Speaker 1: There was also a story about a guy who ate
Speaker 1: squirrel brains and died because maybe he got brain rabies.
Speaker 1: I think squirrels squirrels sometimes have like disease meat or something.
Speaker 1: I think it's okay to eat some squirrels, but not
Speaker 1: this one particular squirrel. I'll do more research about not
Speaker 1: to eat squirrel brains. Now we have an update about
Speaker 1: the murder board, and it comes into parts. Molly, would
Speaker 1: you like to read part one? I'll read part one, Hey,
Speaker 1: and I call. Since you mentioned this week about wanting
Speaker 1: to hear updates on any weirdness going on and my dreams,
Speaker 1: I'd figure i'd get it out of the way in
Speaker 1: two parts. First, the original board was too narrow to
Speaker 1: make a proper rectangular spirit board out of, so I
Speaker 1: had to cut two equal length pieces from the sections
Speaker 1: of the board with the stains on it. As the
Speaker 1: young women requested, a third smaller portion with some staining
Speaker 1: on it was cut to make the plan shet okay,
Speaker 1: So that's the less spooky part of this update. Um okay.
Speaker 1: So also we have pictures to post of the board
Speaker 1: ladies as MS part two of the update. The board
Speaker 1: is done with all carving, standing and contouring. Ink Work
Speaker 1: has begun for most of the letters and numbers and
Speaker 1: one of the requested art pieces. More art to be inked,
Speaker 1: and then the entire thing has to be sealed for
Speaker 1: a smooth glide finish. Planchet is cut and sanded, but
Speaker 1: not inked or sealed yet, and then there's a picture.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to stay aware of anything odd going
Speaker 1: on besides these recurring dreams, which I'll get to in
Speaker 1: a moment. First, a skunk showed up in my backyard
Speaker 1: in the middle of the day while I was doing
Speaker 1: some standing on the board outside. I think it might
Speaker 1: have been rabbit. Second, for some reason, my phone's camera
Speaker 1: has been blurring out or going dark taking these shots.
Speaker 1: It doesn't do that normally, but the lighting in my
Speaker 1: shop isn't great so that it could account for it.
Speaker 1: The only really weird thing that happened took place Friday night.
Speaker 1: My neighbor Mark was over and we were in the
Speaker 1: kitchen talking about the board. While we're talking, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, we both heard this loud sound. The only
Speaker 1: way I can describe it is like the sudden burst
Speaker 1: of wings and a lot of birds. I swear it
Speaker 1: sounded like it came from downstairs in the shop. Mark
Speaker 1: said he thought the sound came from outside, but the
Speaker 1: window was closed. Like an idiot, I grabbed a baseball
Speaker 1: that and went down the stairs, creeping and peeking around corners,
Speaker 1: like the guy in a horror movie that you just
Speaker 1: know is going to be the next one to die.
Speaker 1: I got down there and saw nothing. If both of
Speaker 1: us hadn't heard it, I might have written it off
Speaker 1: as me going Patty and hearing things. As to the
Speaker 1: dreams you mentioned, it's really only just the one dream,
Speaker 1: but I've had it at least five or six times.
Speaker 1: In the dream, I'm in a house, but it's not
Speaker 1: my house. The murder board is there, and it's completely
Speaker 1: finished and beautiful, but it's grown gigantic, so it's the
Speaker 1: size of the entire wall of the room. I'm in
Speaker 1: I somehow know they're supposed to be a door there
Speaker 1: and you need to go through it. But the murder
Speaker 1: board has no door in it, and I'm frantically trying
Speaker 1: to find a way to get wherever it is I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to go, but I can't. And one of the dreams,
Speaker 1: the ink on the board was running down across it.
Speaker 1: Then I wake up. Dundun dun dun, du be night calm.
Speaker 1: He says he's gonna have it wrapped up this week.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing this with us. By
Speaker 1: the way, um, the thing about it, not him not
Speaker 1: being able to take pictures of it, is actually more
Speaker 1: alarming than maybe he thinks. It is, like that feels
Speaker 1: that feels ominous to me. The bird thing is freaky
Speaker 1: to me. It's all I mean, it's all freaks escaping.
Speaker 1: It's all freaky. And also, who said don't do it?
Speaker 1: Oh it was me. I was the only one to
Speaker 1: say don't do it. Nothing terrible has happened yet, Well,
Speaker 1: I said, anything spooky that happens to you, you're going
Speaker 1: to start a tribute is gonna make you paranoid. I
Speaker 1: think he's fine. I think everything's going great. I think
Speaker 1: this is shaping up to be a great screenplay no
Speaker 1: matter what. He's got a friend, the friend, the accomplice
Speaker 1: who's's witnessing the things. He's got the really good dream
Speaker 1: there happening, And I would like to know. The missing
Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle for me still is I want
Speaker 1: to know the details of the murder in the house.
Speaker 1: I want to know about the ladies who are having
Speaker 1: a commission we should go to one of our calls.
Speaker 1: They are also about maybe a coven, of which is
Speaker 1: with better intent is Emily take it away? So this
Speaker 1: this night email comes from Jordan's and Jordan says, I
Speaker 1: go to this small Catholic university with a seminary in Maryland,
Speaker 1: and most of my fellow students and friends lean right politically,
Speaker 1: which sucks. So anyway, last night at a party, they're
Speaker 1: telling me about how the occult is putting a hex
Speaker 1: on Brett Kavanaugh. I naturally assume it's some right wing
Speaker 1: twitter crap, but the BBC reported it, so it's not
Speaker 1: fake news. So to paint the scene last night way
Speaker 1: too many of my friends were all very concerned about
Speaker 1: whether or not Brett was going to be devoured by
Speaker 1: a demon or worse, while suggesting the church should respond
Speaker 1: with an exorcism at the very least with no sense
Speaker 1: of irony at all, while I was drinking my signature
Speaker 1: of vodka tequila Arnold Palmer, which is better than it sounds,
Speaker 1: I swear naturally, I am siding with the occult over
Speaker 1: any response by the Catholic Church. I hope my school
Speaker 1: doesn't kick me out. Happy early Halloween. Jordan's um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is real. This is the thing that's happening. I
Speaker 1: can't I can't remember if it's already happened or not,
Speaker 1: though I read about it last week. There's a bookshop
Speaker 1: I think in Bushwick, of course, UM, which is a
Speaker 1: Bushwick um that is, UH is holding an event calling
Speaker 1: all witches to put a hex on UH Brett Kavanaugh.
Speaker 1: And there's also been there have also been various prayer
Speaker 1: meeting groups organized to protect Brett Kavanaugh against said hex um.
Speaker 1: And of course I have no way of knowing, but
Speaker 1: it's possible that there are freelance witches who are just
Speaker 1: doing their own hexes on Brett Kavanaugh by themselves. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there are tons. Yeah, you don't need to be
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn Um. So it happened on Saturday. Uh. It
Speaker 1: was at a place called Catland Books in Brooklyn. When
Speaker 1: I first heard about this, I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a thing that's picked up and
Speaker 1: made fun of by like the right wing media, conservative
Speaker 1: conservative media or something. Um, even though I think it's
Speaker 1: kind of badass. But the fact that the response has
Speaker 1: been like, no, we must pray in defense of brick
Speaker 1: having on like dead serious, like taking it completely literally
Speaker 1: makes me feel like, Okay, Uh, this was the right move,
Speaker 1: no damage done whatsoever. I like the idea that there
Speaker 1: could be wars that played out just like between bad
Speaker 1: vibes and good vibes, like I'm sending bad vibes over
Speaker 1: to your side. Well, I'm sending good vibes over to
Speaker 1: my side and bad vibes to your side and comes
Speaker 1: back time vibe. Well I guess what I mean. I
Speaker 1: like the idea of like doing something with the idea
Speaker 1: of how like scared these people are of women. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There was a group during Women's Liberation called WHICH that
Speaker 1: was an acronym for Women's International Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell
Speaker 1: who were really cool. They were like socialist feminists and
Speaker 1: they did a lot of actions that were sort of
Speaker 1: like performance art where they would go like put a
Speaker 1: hex on the pentagon and stuff, but just sort of
Speaker 1: showing up places to like scared dudes. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's a good idea. I guess that's all I would
Speaker 1: say is take your hex into the streets. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: there's also something about gathering in real life to focus
Speaker 1: all of your rage, to try and like make the
Speaker 1: rage do something I kind of believe in just by
Speaker 1: showing up and like being around other women who are
Speaker 1: also feeling like endangered by dangerous policies and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: to like really kind of get your blood boiling. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's not even magic that you need, but just like
Speaker 1: I mean, you know people who can like bend spoons
Speaker 1: if that exists. If a bunch of people in a
Speaker 1: room concentrate really hard, I'm sure that we can do
Speaker 1: some damage. The Yippies did a did an action where
Speaker 1: they tried to levitate the pentagon. Yeah, well it freaked
Speaker 1: out all the squares, so maybe it did work, is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The thing is is that everybody knows
Speaker 1: that if you put a hex on someone, it's coming
Speaker 1: back to you times three. So it really just shows
Speaker 1: like how dedicated you are, and I think that's you
Speaker 1: think that's always true. Yes, you can just heck somebody
Speaker 1: you think feel like they did get by some karmen though,
Speaker 1: because their event was like it had a cover charge
Speaker 1: and like I guess all of it went to like
Speaker 1: a women's shelter and LGBT uh fund or something. Uh
Speaker 1: So that was their protective measure. Maybe so very nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when when I have yet to hear if anything has
Speaker 1: come out of the hex, But well, we'll keep our
Speaker 1: We'll keep our Texes take a long time, like at
Speaker 1: least one two moon cycles, I would estimate texas. This
Speaker 1: is a night email from Eugene, Oregon. I've been meaning
Speaker 1: to ask since the terrorice House episode. Have any of
Speaker 1: you ever fallen down the rabbit hole of international variants
Speaker 1: on American reality TV programs. I harbor a passion for
Speaker 1: Australia's Top Model, where half of the contestants actually end
Speaker 1: up having big international modeling careers, and Top Chef Canada
Speaker 1: most seasons have a contestant from Newfoundland who talks about
Speaker 1: cooking with seal meat. I find the echo chamber of
Speaker 1: American culture refracted through other specific perspectives to be both
Speaker 1: allertingly familiar and weirdly destabilizing. My best and they prefer
Speaker 1: to remain anonymous and say, I'm a shag boy. You guys,
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've heard about the Thailand Bachelor, right No,
Speaker 1: uh no really, this is kind of an ongoing news thing. Um.
Speaker 1: So two of the women on the current or maybe
Speaker 1: just finished season of Thailand that Thailand's the Bachelor, uh
Speaker 1: ended up falling in love with each other and it
Speaker 1: was so cool. Yeah, it's awesome. You wish something like
Speaker 1: that would happen on ours. They they like do so
Speaker 1: much to to filter out all the non normies that
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, American Bachelor is like the boring
Speaker 1: ist and like even if somebody did fall in love
Speaker 1: with like fall in love on the show, like you
Speaker 1: feel like they would all be so conditioned to just
Speaker 1: stick to the script and keep like buying for this
Speaker 1: dude's love. I haven't watched many international variants, but this
Speaker 1: email maybe want to watch all of I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I forget if it was Top Chef Canada or Chopped Canada,
Speaker 1: but I definitely did. Also watched one of the Canadian
Speaker 1: variants and it was so funny because the ingredients were
Speaker 1: like specifically Canadian. So there was an episode where the
Speaker 1: challenge was Saskatoon berries. Everyone just kept saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've got to incorporate, being like everyone knows that the
Speaker 1: Saskatoon berry makes a delicious sauce. What other international ones
Speaker 1: do you watch? I should probably dunk my bread into
Speaker 1: the survivor of different the different kind of survivors. I
Speaker 1: think there are the who else does survivor? What other
Speaker 1: countries do? That's what I'm wondering. I'll look it up.
Speaker 1: There was a really good British show called Shipwrecked Island
Speaker 1: that I think is like maybe back everyone's been saying.
Speaker 1: Love Island is also, Yeah, everyone watches Love I've got
Speaker 1: to get into that. I would like to watch Love Island. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I watched a bunch of British reality shows. You watched
Speaker 1: All the Hills equivalents I watched I watched UM The
Speaker 1: Only Way is Essex, which is the the more shabby one,
Speaker 1: and then I watched Chelsea Yet Made in Chelsea, which
Speaker 1: is the rich person one. Both fascinating. Survivor is definitely
Speaker 1: international variations in the format. There's UM Expedition Robinson Sweden,
Speaker 1: which is what is that like Robinson Crusoe The House
Speaker 1: but in a treehouse? Yeah, how is terrace House? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's all that I've done since coming back
Speaker 1: and watching terrace House. I'm not finished with the most
Speaker 1: recent batch. I think it's like the fourth series. There's
Speaker 1: some wild stuff going. It suddenly went from being it
Speaker 1: went from being one of the cutest, purest seasons of
Speaker 1: terrace House. Now it's become the full on, like messy
Speaker 1: party one just because of the people that have cycled
Speaker 1: in and out. Yeah, I saw Amanda has posted that
Speaker 1: all the men are crying. It was like, like I'm
Speaker 1: mash up of like a lot of men just like
Speaker 1: crying and crying. Well, they're very free with their feelings
Speaker 1: on Terrorist House, and it made me really want to watch.
Speaker 1: It's really more than the other that's actually very sweet,
Speaker 1: Like even though they're like a lot of guys that
Speaker 1: can't stand on the show, Like recently there have been
Speaker 1: a lot um one of them on the episode that
Speaker 1: I'm on, has just announced he's leaving and I really
Speaker 1: can't stand this guy. But like the amount of like
Speaker 1: emotional outpouring that came from one of the other dudes
Speaker 1: that I do like more like he was so like
Speaker 1: touched by all the stuff he was saying about, you know,
Speaker 1: like him being like an older brother too, I M
Speaker 1: and stuff. And it was like such a genuinely moving scene.
Speaker 1: And that's like one of the great things about Terrorist. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I haven't finished it yet. Uh yeah, it's UM.
Speaker 1: I kind of want to get into the first season,
Speaker 1: which is not on Netflix and takes a little more
Speaker 1: maneuvering to access, but it's supposed to be great. The
Speaker 1: seasons are like fifty episodes or something like that, Like
Speaker 1: they're really what yeah wait what why is that? Because
Speaker 1: they go for basically a year. Um, Connecticut Muffin will
Speaker 1: be fifty episodes in real time Muffin, It'll just be
Speaker 1: like hours at Connecticut Muffin, like you know, sometimes somebody
Speaker 1: comes in and sometimes it's kind of dead for a
Speaker 1: few hours and you just stay on that Connecticut Muffin
Speaker 1: and Honey Brain's Court exactly. I was just going to
Speaker 1: say that there's a very there's a split in our
Speaker 1: audience and going against Emily's direction to not bring this up.
Speaker 1: If we talk about a food and then we never
Speaker 1: talk about it, again, it's because we've received so much
Speaker 1: feedback that the food is upsetting to people, and though
Speaker 1: you may crave more talk about that food or condoment,
Speaker 1: what have you, we've basically been forbidden from doing it.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to clarify that. Can can we
Speaker 1: as a night call ask people to please vote? Yes?
Speaker 1: Of course, everybody, absolutely, everybody in California. Yes on ten
Speaker 1: for control night call endorsets, Yes, ontent big time and
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Speaker 1: you in Massachusetts, yes on three. Oh, yes, absolutely in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: And if you're already registered and you know where you're
Speaker 1: going to be voting and all that, looking to giving
Speaker 1: people rides the polls, looking getting into canvassing, getting the
Speaker 1: vote out anyway you can, and the community knew you
Speaker 1: that most needs it because we all need to help
Speaker 1: get it. Shouldn't be this much of a struggle to
Speaker 1: get everybody to vote, but it is for some reason.
Speaker 1: My mom. I talked to my mom the other day
Speaker 1: and she was like, Hey, do you mind asking everyone
Speaker 1: you know to vote? Please? I'll do it on the podcast.
Speaker 1: So please please vote. I've been talking you know a
Speaker 1: lot of people who don't plan on voting, especially younger people.
Speaker 1: It's it's really wigging me out as none of that,
Speaker 1: none of that, none of that. Don't you can't listen
Speaker 1: to our show anymore. Honestly, if you're one of those
Speaker 1: young people, sorry you can't vote. Night Call wants you
Speaker 1: to vote yes on three, yes on ten, yes on eight.
Speaker 1: Look into your props, look into your people. Just do like,
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