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Speaker 1: for our Sunday Night podcast with John Middlecoff, host of

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Speaker 1: three and out former NFL scout. I had a four

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Speaker 1: to oh day in the Blazing five. I have Washington tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: which I feel great about. That was my favorite pick

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Speaker 1: of the week. It's been established the Jets may have

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Speaker 1: the worst coach I've ever seen in Tennessee, may have

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Speaker 1: the worst personnel I've ever seen. But let's start Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay thirty, San Francisco nineteen right now, Baker Mayfield, think

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Speaker 1: about this. They averaged seven point three yards of play.

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Speaker 1: no Bucky Irving. The leading pass catcher was Kate Otton, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is a nice tight end out of Washington,

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Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd, Tesz Johnson, Tess had a great catch. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Baker has to be your MVP at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah to me, I mean they're ceiling rests on those

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Speaker 2: This guy's like a top ten quarterback to right now,

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Speaker 2: And I'm totally with you. Like his comments. You know,

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Speaker 1: this because I think the New York Jets maybe the

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Speaker 1: Well, I was thinking about this. If we go back

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Speaker 2: and Rogers made a lot of throws. He doesn't move.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty clear like he once did, but

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Speaker 2: he knows it and like you said, he actually is

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Speaker 2: more comfortable with his limitations and plays within himself. He's not,

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Speaker 2: you know, last year. It's like any player, any human being.

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Speaker 2: As you age, you kind of have to change. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm going through it right now with like my Metabolism'm like, God,

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Speaker 2: my metabolism at forty's not the same as it was

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Speaker 2: at thirty five. Welcome to life. You know, it's like

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Speaker 2: you're forty one. Aaron you Torrio's achilles a couple of

436
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Speaker 2: years ago. You can't scramble, So he moves a couple

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Speaker 2: of yards where he used to take off lateral to

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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. He'll just kind of keep a

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Speaker 2: play alive. But he's not looking for you know, he

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Speaker 2: used to have the He's like one of the great

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Speaker 2: hero ball players of all time because he could make

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Speaker 2: something out of nothing into one of the most fictacking

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Speaker 2: Those days are done. But I think he kind of

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Speaker 2: understands himself. And the other thing is their defense is

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Speaker 2: starting to come on. Now. Cleveland's offensive line is pretty terrible,

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Speaker 2: but as they get healthier up front, their defensive line,

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Speaker 2: I mean they had backup that hair of guy's making plays. Obviously, TJ.

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Speaker 2: Wats looked excellent the last three or four games. They

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Speaker 2: are physic. They were hitting hard today on defense. Well,

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Speaker 2: early on, I was pretty nervous. I'm like, they got

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Speaker 2: no chance. Here's the other thing, colin the AFC North,

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Speaker 2: I mean that there's a chance all the other three

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Speaker 2: coaches get fired. That's how bad it's going. Stefanski's in

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Speaker 2: major troubles, Zach Taylor's done, and hardball, that thing's gonna

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Speaker 2: get louder and louder they are going. They could have

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Speaker 2: the division wrapped up by like early December, and they

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Speaker 2: could be like an eleven win team and win this

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Speaker 2: elevation by four games.

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Speaker 1: Listen, their schedule gets tougher late. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: When you when you start watching players like Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Russell Wilson had some decent moments in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Giants couldn't sit him fast enough. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Brian Dabeles running to the tent to find Jackson dark.

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields was four and two with the Steelers. He's

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Speaker 1: the worst quarterback in the league right now with the Jets. Like,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing about Pittsburgh. They're not clever offensively, they're

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Speaker 1: not San Francisco. They're not McVeigh. Although the Rams are struggling.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, they're so functional as an organization

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Speaker 1: in terms of drafting and developing. You and I have

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Speaker 1: said this for years. They're gonna win nine games because

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Speaker 1: they just they it's a well run operation. Tomlin can

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Speaker 1: drive me crazy. They don't get offense. But then when

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Speaker 1: you put a smart guy like Aaron In and Arthur

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Speaker 1: Smith is also bright, it's just good enough. Now, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't against Seattle, and they played poorly in the second

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Speaker 1: half against Seattle. They had that goofy special teams blunder.

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Speaker 1: But you start watching the I guess it's this John.

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Speaker 1: You said this three weeks ago. The bottom of this

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Speaker 1: league is awful. Tennessee is awful. I'm talking. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Saints are, They're fighting their butt off. New Orleans

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Speaker 1: is fighting hard. That's a bad team. The Jets are

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Speaker 1: absolutely awful. There are four or five teams at the bottom,

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Speaker 1: and there's no great teams in this league. But you

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Speaker 1: watch Pittsburgh and just on health, Aaron certain uni unity

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Speaker 1: within the organization. They're gonna win like nine or ten game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna go thirteen fourteen wins. I don't,

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Speaker 1: you know, by the way, they do have some older players.

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Speaker 1: Older players tend to get hurt around Thanksgiving. Yeah it,

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Speaker 1: but I think Pittsburgh is going to be a playoff

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Speaker 1: team again if they'll probably be a one and donner.

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Speaker 1: But I think they'll be a playoff team.

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously last year their defense fall off of Cliff,

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Speaker 2: but also you know the quarterback play with Russell once

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Speaker 2: it got really cold, he looked really really bad. Old

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Speaker 2: players and Aaron's obviously a lot older than Russell. You go, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at their schedule now, starting in about mid November.

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Speaker 2: They got home game against the Bengals. Could be cold

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh at the Bears, eleven twenty three bills at

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Speaker 2: home at the Ravens at the Browns, you know versus

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. I mean, these are a lot of games

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Speaker 2: that could be snowing. Could be twenty degrees. And like

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Speaker 2: you said, the bottom of the league is really crappy. Well,

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Speaker 2: they're going to have teams in their division that aren't

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Speaker 2: going to win that many games. But the Browns are

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Speaker 2: not like one of those awful teams that's easy to play.

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Speaker 2: I would say the same about the Bengals, right because

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Speaker 2: at any moment, they just got some good players. You know,

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Speaker 2: Hendrickson got hurt and who knows, I guess he could

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Speaker 2: get traded. But if the Bengals and the Browns are

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Speaker 2: the worst two teams in your division, both teams probably

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Speaker 2: gonna win a combined like ten games. They are just

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Speaker 2: not an that you're not playing the Jets, right, that's

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Speaker 2: just hard, especially the Browns. That is physically taxing. And

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Speaker 2: they played the Ravens twice in the last like you know,

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Speaker 2: month and a half. They could be a little healthier

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Speaker 2: by then. It's not gonna be east Side to day.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Ravens have a lot of pride. A

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Speaker 2: is an organization, even if they're playing random guys. They

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Speaker 2: I thought the whole time, like everyone thinks the Rams

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Speaker 2: are gonna kill these guys. No, they'll probably win, But

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Speaker 2: this is they're gonna have They're gonna have some like

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Speaker 2: dignity as an organization here that even if we're gonna

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Speaker 2: win four games, we're gonna do it with their head

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Speaker 2: held high. This is a pretty prideful division. Tomlin. I

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Speaker 2: forget who was calling the game, but they basically said

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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin tried to tell his rookies don't get fooled

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Speaker 2: by the records in this division. These inner division games,

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Speaker 2: these six of them are worse so. And the more

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Speaker 2: an Aaron plays in these, especially against the Ravens, like

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Speaker 2: they're gonna hit them, they'll find a way. And it's

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Speaker 2: just can he maintain because if he's healthy, I will

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Speaker 2: say this, they do have a chance to like compete

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Speaker 2: in a playoff game. I think the AFC is pretty

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Speaker 2: wide open. You got bo Knicks camp three completions, The

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Speaker 2: Chargers have a bunch of injuries. You know, the Jags

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Speaker 2: still got Trevor Lawrence as their quarterback. I think you

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Speaker 2: saw the Colts today. I mean they're not a perfect

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Speaker 2: team by any means. There're gonna be some playoff teams

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Speaker 2: in the AFC that aren't exactly two years ago. Raven

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Speaker 2: Some of these Bills teams in the past and some

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Speaker 2: of the prime Chiefs teams. So it's saying they're going

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Speaker 2: to be in the AFC Championship Game. But it's definitely

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Speaker 2: more wide open than I think we imagine when the

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Speaker 2: season started.

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Speaker 1: And now for our next segment, Whiskey Business. Yes, Whiskey Business,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Green River Whiskey, the official whiskey

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Speaker 1: of the Colin Coward Podcast. All right, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk Chargers who end a two game losing streak. Chargers

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, Dolphins twenty seven. So there was Listen, the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins could have drafted Herbert and they drafted Tua.

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Speaker 1: So I was a bigger fan than Herbert out of

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Speaker 1: college than but not a lot of gms. There were

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Speaker 1: a lot of gms that like Tua. Chris Greer, who

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Speaker 1: I has been a GM for ten years, and not

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Speaker 1: a lot of Pro Bowlers. I mean they've they've battle

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Speaker 1: line gave Tua an extension. It wouldn't have been my call,

557
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Speaker 1: but Tua had three picks today and Herbert put on

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Speaker 1: a show twenty nine to thirty eight. No Quinton Johnson,

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Speaker 1: four backups on the offensive line. There was a play

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game it's unbelievable. Herbert is

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Speaker 1: just getting attacked. I mean, he's he leads the NFL

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Speaker 1: and getting hit since I think since he was drafted.

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's been hit more than

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Speaker 1: any quarterback in the league. So he's got backups everywhere.

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Speaker 1: No Quinton Johnson, it's Lad McConkie and a number three

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Speaker 1: running back and some backups, four backs on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: So as they trail late, the Dolphins score here, they

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Speaker 1: come back. It looked like the Dolphins were going to win.

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Speaker 1: Herbert breaks a tackle from a defensive lineman, and this

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Speaker 1: is why traits you're a former NFL scout, this is

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Speaker 1: why traits matter. Tua doesn't escape that, Rock Purty doesn't

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Speaker 1: escape that. It's just one of those things that smaller

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks Kyler Murray doesn't escape it. Herbert at six five

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Speaker 1: and a half two thirty five and strong bounces off

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, escapes somehow, moving to his left gets

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Speaker 1: Lad McConkie, who flies down the sideline. They ultimately win

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Speaker 1: it with a field goal. And in my takeaway in

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Speaker 1: that game is it highlights the Miami problem. When you

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Speaker 1: draft Tua, who's a smaller quarterback and not as athletic

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Speaker 1: as Herbert. I mean, and again Chris Career wasn't alone.

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Speaker 1: There were people that love Tua. Is I look at

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, Tua set after the game, people are missing meetings,

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Speaker 1: people are late. It's like, holy crap, tuas calling out

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel. But I thought this was overall, this really

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Speaker 1: puts a ribbon on the Dolphins. When you watched Herbert Carrie,

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Speaker 1: only San Francisco's more banged up. When you watch Herbert

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Speaker 1: carry a completely depleted roster on the road from behind

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Speaker 1: to win over to who's home, who's comfortable, Who's got

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Speaker 1: most of his weapons? To me, it was like, this

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Speaker 1: is the definition of why the Dolphins of the Dolphins?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I thought the Herbert play was the

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Speaker 2: play of the day. I mean, given that the injuries,

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Speaker 2: that felt like they were going to lose the game,

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Speaker 2: you know, the defense kind of gave it up at

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Speaker 2: the end. I mean, Waller's wide open in the corner

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Speaker 2: of the end zone for two to throw them a

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Speaker 2: little lollipop, and then he breaks that tackle sack for

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Speaker 2: the throw and then mcakey, I mean, how good have

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Speaker 2: those two guys been since they've linked up. She's holy moly.

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Speaker 2: I mean mccakey is he's like a Wes Welker meets Edelman.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's a son. But Herbert there was you know,

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Speaker 2: I understand what tu was saying, and we've known about

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Speaker 2: the function in Miami now for a while. It's pretty embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: But I also think, like Tua, you threw a pick.

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Speaker 2: You guys are up sixteen to thirteen and threw a

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Speaker 2: pick over the middle of the field, and that pick

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Speaker 2: doesn't get thrown if you're justin Herbert because he has

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Speaker 2: a much stronger arm. Well, the ball, you know, when

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Speaker 2: you have a weaker arm, like Philip Rivers threw a

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Speaker 2: lot of picks, is great. It's an easier ball to catch.

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Speaker 2: So if his timing's a little off, you know, Peyton

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Speaker 2: Manning's ball, if he's a little late, is much more

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Speaker 2: pickable than Cam Newton throwing a hundred mile an hour fastball.

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Speaker 2: And you just watch Tua's ball kind of floats and

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Speaker 2: the charger defender was able to jump right in front

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Speaker 2: of the route the guy was open. But it's when

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Speaker 2: we talk about arm strength. Obviously, that doesn't determine if

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Speaker 2: you're gonna be a great player. Not Peyton had an

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Speaker 2: average arm at best. But Tua is nowhere near the

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Speaker 2: guys with average arms that were great players. And makes

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Speaker 2: mistakes constantly. And that was sixteen to thirteen, and then boom,

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Speaker 2: three plays later, the Chargers are up twenty three to thirteen.

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Speaker 2: And I just think that, you know, TWOA is a

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Speaker 2: pretty average player, which listened relatively league. He's still better

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Speaker 2: than a lot of guys, but he is not talented enough.

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Speaker 2: We talk about Baker Cleveland, can't overcome it, Mac Jones

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Speaker 2: with Belichick and that disaster the last couple years. Can't

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Speaker 2: overcome it. Tua, this Miami thing, no chance you put

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Speaker 2: Tua on. You just gave him to Kevin O'Connell right now.

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Speaker 2: I bet he'd look a lot better, right And you

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Speaker 2: know Kevin O'Connell said this over the offseason. Most teams

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Speaker 2: fail quarterbacks. We know Tua's very limited. We've know Jared

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Speaker 2: Goff's been limited since he was playing at col Can't move.

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Speaker 2: Guess what the Lions don't ask him to do. Move

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Speaker 2: Guess what they asked him to do. Get rid of

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Speaker 2: the ball fast. You know, I think sometimes Mike mcde

637
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniels is asking two of like these deep dropbacks,

638
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: push the ball down the field, guys. He has an

639
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: average arm and part of it now he has to

640
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: carry the team. But they have all these little, tiny receivers.

641
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Speaker 2: Even when Tyreek was there. It's like, I don't know

642
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: if I would have built a team that way first off.

643
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: And now it's like Wadall's an excellent player and made

644
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: a yeah, an awesome catch today down the sideline, But

645
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: like I would try to get bigger body. Listen. I

646
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: don't know if it's gonna work in Caroline or not,

647
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: but I do understand the logic of we need to

648
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: get this big body guy for a little quarterback. McMillan

649
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: the wide receiver from Arizona. Why because its harder for

650
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: him to see he gives him a bitter catching radius

651
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: to a throw and do tiny little guys and he's

652
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Speaker 2: a tiny little quarterback. Well, yeah, Herbert can see the

653
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Speaker 2: tiny little receiver or Brady can see that they're six

654
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: foot five. It's the opposite with Tua. This is a

655
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: math equation. And then when you factor in his arms

656
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: week and I give him like I actually think too,

657
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: he's earned my respective like being mentally tough. You know,

658
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: he battles through like he doesn't tap out. I mean,

659
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: he still runs around when he's got a million concussions.

660
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: But the organization's embarrassment. I just think that the to

661
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: a thing. They it's it's more like he turns the

662
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: ball over a lot and he's got issues, but the

663
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: whole organization around him is just I mean, it's pretty

664
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Speaker 2: low level.

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Speaker 1: If you had two as a quarterback, you need a

666
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: good backup quarterback. They've never had that. And you need

667
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: a good offensive line. It's stunk since he's been there.

668
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: They've had good defensive fronts. They don't know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: I think about this all the time when I started

670
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: the volume. When you start a company, you have to

671
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: have an identity. What are we? What aren't we? Let's

672
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: stop chasing this. We're not this.

673
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: We are this.

674
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Speaker 1: If two is your quarterback, you have to have a

675
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Speaker 1: good backup. You also have to have good protection, good

676
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: pass pro. They've never done a good job with that.

677
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: So there's two quarterbacks that won today, Baker Mayfield and

678
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, who had no business winning. Both are on

679
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: the road, both missing multiple starters, star players, Joe al

680
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: Rashaun Slater, Quinton Johnson or Bucky Irving, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans,

681
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Abuka Baker Mayfield, and Justin Herbert. If you wondered what

682
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: the difference between the haves and the have not quarterbacks

683
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: in this league. Herbert and Baker on the road win

684
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: games with almost forty percent of their starters missing. And

685
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: I thought when you watched Herbert juxtapose with Tua today

686
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: to us throwing pick after pick and guys are bouncing

687
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: off Herbert, It's like, folks, that's that's a guy that

688
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: will never pull a team. Herbert and Baker are pulling.

689
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: They're they're not They're not trailers, they're tractors. They are

690
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: pulling offenses.

691
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Speaker 2: But Mike McDaniel said last year that players that the

692
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Speaker 2: fine system didn't work to team meetings right, He couldn't

693
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: get guys to show up on well to it. You

694
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: think people that they can't find you are going to

695
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: show up to players only meetings like that's the culture

696
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: has already been established. Nothing matters, right that the standard

697
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. And this is what happens when you have

698
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: a guy that no one respects and you bring them

699
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Speaker 2: back and listen, that's not a shot at Mike. It's

700
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: just clearly the players do not view him like an

701
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: authority figure. And there you can be a nice guy, right.

702
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: Andy Reid is good friends and has close relationships with

703
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 2: his players. They also view him as an authority figure

704
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: of if he says something is at eight o'clock, there

705
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: is a level of respect to show up at seven

706
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: fifty five. No one's asking you to be Tom Coughlin

707
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: and be twenty minutes earlier, year late. But when a

708
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: coach says it's not even it's just basic business. Right,

709
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 2: everyone's there. We're making time. Our time is valuable. We've

710
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: never had less time with all these rules. Show up

711
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: and they weren't showing up to the team meetings last

712
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: year when they why do you think Vic Fangio was like,

713
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: I want out of this, yes, Fani shoke, get me

714
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: out of here. Yeah, Howie, throw me a lifeline. And

715
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: I think Stephen Ross like I don't even want to

716
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: deal with this. Go you know this is But that

717
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: was a reflection of Mike and the organization, and in

718
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: fairness to Mike, this has been going on even with

719
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: Flores that no one's ever on the same page in.

720
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Speaker 1: This let me throw this auty. I thought about this today.

721
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Speaker 1: Most of the great culture creators Vrabel, Mike Tomlin, Dan Campbell,

722
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: I would say Sean McVay feels bigger than he is.

723
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Speaker 2: He's I agree.

724
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: Is there's a physical component to them. You could say,

725
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: what about Belichick. Brady set the culture. Let's be honest

726
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: about it. Like Brady ran that locker room like players

727
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: were intimidated if Brady, I mean Brady l worked every player.

728
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: He was a legend, he was the goat. Brady set

729
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: that culture as much as Belichick. Mike McDaniel. I mean,

730
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: if you walked into Google, looks like some guy that

731
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: would be And I'm not trying to be mean spirited,

732
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: but you're walking up in front of six foot seven,

733
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: three hundred pound, three hundred twenty five pounds alphas. There

734
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: is some you cannot discredit the value. Have you ever

735
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: stood next to Dan Campbell or Mike Vrabel? These are

736
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: huge men, And Mike Tomlin's an intimidating man. So you

737
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: either have to be intimidating in terms of volume or intensity.

738
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Speaker 1: Sean Payton's intimidating, like like when you're around him. Shawn's

739
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: expertise and his intelligence, Andy Reid success volume, like Andy's

740
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: a he's a yeller, or there's the physical component. I

741
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: said this when he first got hired. He didn't look

742
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,959
Speaker 1: like a guy that was gonna walk up in front

743
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Speaker 1: of a room and command respect from a bunch of

744
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Speaker 1: fifty five guys that average six four two twenty.

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Speaker 2: No one thinks that, especially if you go back to like,

746
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: you know, I was watching early this morning and they

747
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: are doing something on Brian Schottenhammer, and they were talking

748
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: a lot about Marty you know, or Bill Parcells or

749
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: some of those guys, Jimmy Johnson. Obviously, these guys, if

750
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: they got into a physical altercation with the player, are

751
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: going to lose. But I bet if you asked a

752
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: lot of those players, they'd say, I never knew when

753
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: the guy might actually snap on me. And again I

754
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: knew I could beat the guy up, but like he

755
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: had an im atimidation factor. You go what back you

756
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: watch some of those cowboy practices. You know, Jimmy's fifty

757
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: years old screaming at Charles Haley. You know I grew

758
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: up on you know, Bill Walsher retired, George Seffert, he

759
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: was terrifying. I was like, this guy is just no

760
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: one messed with him, and I think there's an element

761
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: of that. Obviously, Mike McDaniel is never gonna have to

762
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: fight any of these guys, but they look at him like,

763
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: in what world would you wouldn't take that guy seriously

764
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: if he was your friends and he got mad at

765
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: you over at his house playing video games, if you

766
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 2: were a fifteen year old kid.

767
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, there is.

768
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: If it's football not softball. I mean, it's part of

769
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: the deal.

770
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: It's just like saying, you know, taller people make more

771
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: money according to every study. If you're saying the physical

772
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Speaker 1: component in life doesn't matter, is laughable. If you're saying

773
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Speaker 1: it does it, you're probably five to five. It does. Taller,

774
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Speaker 1: better looking people, more intimidating people. I mean, there's just

775
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Speaker 1: something that John Taffer bar rescue well, he's like six

776
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777
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778
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784
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: couple more games here before we get into James Franklin,

785
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: who got fired at Penn State. Carolina beats Dallas thirty

786
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: to twenty seven. Two things to say about Dallas. First

787
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: of all, Dak Presscott in his last three games has

788
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns and no picks. They can only win one

789
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: day way, it's a track meet. They got their defense.

790
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: Bryce Young ate it up. Secondly, George Pickens, for all

791
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 1: the criticism of the Cowboys get I mean, he's got

792
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: six touchdowns in five games. He has been a steel

793
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: as a third rounder, he has been unbelievable. Today he

794
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: was incredible. So we can roll our eyes at the Cowboys.

795
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: But Pickens has been great. Dak has been sensational. But

796
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: I was watching Bryce Young today, John and it really

797
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: came to me is that Carolina dominated first downs like

798
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: almost double the Cowboys, and Rico Dowdle had one hundred

799
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Speaker 1: and eighty three yards. You know, over six yards of

800
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: carry is that? And I said this when they traded Micah,

801
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 1: it was gonna look bad this year. But two first

802
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: round picks Dak playing this well, Go get an edge

803
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: rusher and go get a number two receiver, and you're

804
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. In this league. You can get better,

805
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: really really fast. Plus they're gonna have free free agent

806
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: money and cap room next year. But I watched Bryce

807
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Young in my takeaway, and I know nobody cares about Carolina,

808
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: but my takeaway is Bryce Young can look pretty darn

809
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: go against the bad defense. When I've seen him against

810
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: good pass rushes, he's totally engulfed. But about half the

811
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: league doesn't have a pass rush. Most of the league

812
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: isn't Denver, right, They're not Denver, They're not the Rams.

813
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: So I watched Bryce Young, and I'm like, do you

814
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: think Bryce Young gets an extension because my take is

815
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: he's middle of the pack. He may be the seventeenth

816
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: best quarterback, but against average defenses and that coach, he's capable.

817
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, i'd probably put him in the two

818
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: A category where he probably will and everyone will fall

819
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 2: out of their chair when he gets one hundred and

820
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: fifty million do. Now it has to keep going well.

821
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Speaker 2: But like you said, the Saints are in their division.

822
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: You watch them. Their defense is horrendous. You know, Tampa

823
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: just has to blitz all the time. I mean they

824
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: have a bunch of injuries and older players, and you know, Atlanta,

825
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: in theory has good defense. I mean, we'll see how

826
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: it how translates over them, but they're not exactly playing

827
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Speaker 2: the eighty five Bears on a weekly basis. Now again,

828
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Speaker 2: I would probably rather have Tua than Bryce, but I

829
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: mean today the thing with the Cowboys, Dawdoll had one

830
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty three yards. His long run was fifteen Collin.

831
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Speaker 2: I would bet in the history of one hundred and

832
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Speaker 2: eighty yard rushing attacks on average, the long run in

833
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 2: the game for a running back would have been like

834
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: forty plus yards. Because if you think if you ran

835
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Speaker 2: for one hundred and thirty yards like that's you're probably

836
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 2: gonna have a couple of twenty yard runs in there.

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Speaker 1: He had thirty carries, that's what they did in the seventies.

838
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Speaker 2: He also had a huge game. I think he had

839
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Speaker 2: four catches for fifty six yards. I mean I think

840
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Speaker 2: he has like five hundred yards from Scrimmage's last couple.

841
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: He's dominating. The Cowboys defense is horrendous. You how bad

842
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: the Jets are because they made the Jets. Their defense

843
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: actually looked pretty good against them last week. This game,

844
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Speaker 2: my favorite bet on the board beside Seattle, who won

845
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: out right was the over in This game started a

846
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: little slow, but as the game went on, these two

847
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: defenses are horrendous. They really are. Dallas probably gonna have

848
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: to feel good if you go Dallas wants to win

849
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: a game, I think they have to be above thirty.

850
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: I don't think they have any chance to win a

851
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: game against a competent team, not the Jets. If they're

852
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: in the twenty, even in the high twenties, I think

853
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: they got I mean, obviously they lost the day thirty

854
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: twenty seven, but I would say on average they're scoring defense.

855
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 2: When the season ends, I bet twenty eight to twenty nine,

856
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna be one of the worst in the league,

857
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 2: if not the worst.

858
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: Dallas's defense is a quarterback stimulus package. Everybody, everybody looks good. No,

859
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: it's funny because I was I was watching this today

860
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: and yeah, we goo down had thirty carries. I mean,

861
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: that is that's what Jim Brown was doing. Like now

862
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: you wouldn't even think twenty Smith, Yeah, twenty is almost inappropriate.

863
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: But I think it does go to show that I

864
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: think people are terrified of driving to the stadium and

865
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: being bad at quarterback. Like when today Cleveland. That's why

866
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's like, let's just get Joe Flacco. We won't be

867
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: terrible at quarterback, will be okay, And they were okay.

868
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: He just threw to Jamar Chase over and over and

869
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: over on the big drives, which is smart, Joe Flacco smart.

870
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: But I think the league is terrified of being horrible

871
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: at quarterback. And that's why Brock Pretty or Bryce young

872
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: is one gets paid. I think Bryce will get paid.

873
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: And I will say this as Carolina one. Dack through

874
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: all of this, he's just putting up unbelievable numbers. He

875
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: first of all, the surgery, he hasn't moved this well

876
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: in six years. He's moving well. It really goes to

877
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: show you we don't think it's an elite head coach.

878
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: They don't have a number one receiver or tight end.

879
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: The O line is being remade John In this league,

880
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: if you have an a quarter back a minus or

881
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: B plus plus you can win every Sunday. And that's

882
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott. I mean there are if Cede Lamb

883
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: makes a catch against Philadelphia, they win that game, remember

884
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: the opener. So it's like I look at Dallas and

885
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're not a good team, but they're fun

886
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: to watch and Dak is I mean, there's fifteen quarterbacks

887
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: in this league that can spin it and he is

888
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: one of them.

889
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 2: I'll push back a little on the head coach. Now,

890
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: we're not really judging him on timeouts, and his defense

891
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: isn't good so even the aggregate of the team, but

892
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: he is the play caller and they have been e

893
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 2: leite on offense, and they lost Ceedee Lamb early in

894
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: the season and they have not skipped a beat. So

895
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 2: I would say most people would have been like, Brian

896
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: Schottenheimer is gonna call your plays. Let's just say that.

897
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: Let's say they had hired Colin Coward to be the

898
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: head coach, but Schottenheimer was his play caller as the OC, like, ah,

899
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 2: you could do better than that. He's been pretty awesome

900
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: at that, So I will give him that. And part

901
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: of it's gonna because I'm thinking today you get two

902
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: first round picks, and losing this game isn't the end

903
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: of the world for them. If they're picking, you know,

904
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: you'd rather pick tenth than twentieth, and you know the

905
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: Packers probably get and that pick's gonna be in the twenties.

906
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 2: But you're gonna have two picks. Pick a couple guys

907
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: on defense. Dak I just looked thirty two years old.

908
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: So the way football's going now, you can't touch the quarterback,

909
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: Why couldn't you have a couple several more seasons playing

910
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 2: at this level. He clearly has good chemistry with Brian.

911
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: You know, maybe they re signed with some of that

912
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: extra money George Picken. They already got Ceedee Lamb under contract. Finally,

913
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: maybe draft to running back in like the second, third,

914
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: fourth round, and all of a sudden, you have more

915
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 2: of a complete team. You get some of these defensive

916
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: backs healthy over the next couple of years. I got

917
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: a bunch of them under contract. They just need front

918
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: seven players. I would draftmult If you told me they

919
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 2: use both their first round picks this year on defensive lineman,

920
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: I'd be like smart, right, I wouldn't even I wouldn't

921
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: even veer away from the front seven if I were

922
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: them early in the draft.

923
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're I looked at mock drafts today and there's

924
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of edge rushers. It's a defensive line, defensive edge.

925
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: It's a very good draft. You know, Dante Moore probably

926
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: has a chance to go number one, the Oregon quarterback,

927
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: although he lost this weekend, but they don't care about that.

928
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: But I looked at it. It's a lot of defensive

929
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: players in this year's draft. It's a very good defensive draft.

930
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: And you know what, I've always been a little reticent

931
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: to draft a receiver in the first round high because

932
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: it's an ego position. Why feed into that. Yeah, there's

933
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: a couple of first round cornerbacks. There's a bunch of

934
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: edge and defensive linemen. That's what I said about Mikah.

935
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: It's gonna look bad for a year. Will It's like

936
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: when Shaq Kobe trade Shack goes to Miami. You were

937
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: going to get beaten up for two years. But in

938
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: the end, Kobe was the better, more committed player, he

939
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: was in better shape, fewer injuries, Kobe got gasol, and

940
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: the Lakers won two titles. Sometimes you lose, you can't

941
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: worry about winning the press conference, right, Like they always

942
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 1: say that in college football, don't win the press conference.

943
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: Get the right coach. You'll win the press conference if

944
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: you hire you know, the coach leaves James Franklin's fired,

945
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: and then they'll hire, you know, the interim coach because

946
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: he wins some games and everybody loves it and they're happy.

947
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: Was that the best coach? You're winning a press conference

948
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: because everybody's happy. So I look at next year two

949
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: first round and by the way, John as you know,

950
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: they don't need a quarterback, but six teams do. They

951
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: could turn those two first round picks into second and

952
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: third round picks added by moving down, which they probably

953
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: will do.

954
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: They've also drafted a ton of offensive linemen over the

955
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 2: last several years, so they've invested heavily in that position.

956
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: You could also say, like, unless Micah was Lawrence Taylor,

957
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: what difference is Micah making on this team? Like it's

958
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: not like he's turning them into some high end defense.

959
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: Their defense is atrocious. Guys are wide open constantly. They

960
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: can't cover a soul. I think if you wanted to

961
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: argue about it, you should have done it before the draft,

962
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: and you could have gotten more, but at the end

963
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: of the day, you got multiple first round picks, got

964
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: the money. It was a little clunky the way the

965
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: process played out, but the end result I think is

966
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: probably gonna work out in the Cowboys is long. You know,

967
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 2: the Raiders once did this when they traded Khalil Mack. Again,

968
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: that was a financial thing. They just didn't have the

969
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: money to pay them. They drafted the wrong players and

970
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: that bit them in the ass. So you get these picks,

971
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: you just if you nail. I don't know if, like

972
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 2: you said, let's say you turn two picks into four picks,

973
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: right moving back and manipulating the draft, if you hit

974
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: on three out of the four of them, it's a

975
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: home run because not only are you getting impact players,

976
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 2: they're cheap impact players. All right.

977
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: I think both you and I love this game. This

978
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: was my second favorite bet on the board, Seattle plus

979
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 1: one and a half, I said Friday on the herd

980
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: Blazing five bet the money line. I thought Jacksonville off

981
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: an emotional win, biggest win in forever for them against

982
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: Kansas City. They would come to short rest, come back

983
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: down to earth. Seattle was going to play with our

984
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: hair on fire and a tough division, they'd be more desperate.

985
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you had ten total penalties for the Jags

986
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: in the first half. They had six penalties, three sacks allowed,

987
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: four punts. They were just a mess. They weren't really

988
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: ready to play. They hung around for a while. But

989
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'll say this is a classic example, is

990
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence had a fifty four yard touchdown pass taking

991
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: off the board because of a penalty. It's so Jacksonville.

992
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how to explain this though. Seattle's won

993
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: nine straight road games. Now, remember Seattle is geographically. You know,

994
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: this is why the Vancouver Grizzlies didn't work. This is

995
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: why the Mariners for years haven't done well in the

996
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: free agent market. It's like a lot of players don't

997
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: want those long road trips. You're up jammed up in

998
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest. It's inconceivable that Seattle, again in a

999
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: tough division, even Arizona is a hard place to go

1000
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 1: and win is one nine straight road games. They travel

1001
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: across the country, So let's start with that. Is that

1002
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: just coincidence, happenstance? I mean, some of those have been

1003
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: with Gino. That's a lot of road wins in a row.

1004
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: They're ten and one on the road under Mike McDonald,

1005
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: ten and one. That is insane. Again, they in theory

1006
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: have one of the best places to play at home,

1007
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: so if they can parlay, which they're gonna do because

1008
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: they were today. They sacked him seven times. They were

1009
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: all over Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. I mean he would scramble

1010
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: in the pocket and there'd be another guy there. He

1011
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: was getting hit all day long. And their DB's hit two.

1012
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 2: I mean you could tell a couple of times Brian

1013
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: Thomas like, I don't know if I want to catch

1014
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: this one over.

1015
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: His body language.

1016
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had that early in the season. It felt

1017
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: like he got over that last week. And they were

1018
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: talking about in the broadcast, like Liams had some talks

1019
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: with him a couple of times, like, no way, I

1020
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 2: never blame a player. I wouldn't want to get taken

1021
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: out either. But the days of like Ronnie Lott are over.

1022
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: You're not gonna get depleted. But still he doesn't want

1023
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: to get hit. And the defense was awesome today. I

1024
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: mean their physicality when he factored in the I heard

1025
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: I was in the car maybe last week and Steve

1026
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 2: Phillips the baseball Guy the former GM was on and

1027
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: he said, by far every year Seattle. No team travels

1028
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: farther in baseball than Seattle. Right, their travel is consistently

1029
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: the longest. Think about this game for them, I mean,

1030
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: what's that flight we just say naturally five? Is that?

1031
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: Is that a five and a half? Is that a

1032
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 2: six hour flight? I mean that's just that's a long trip. Now,

1033
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm with you. You know, Tampa the emotional win. I

1034
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: respect Trevor like he's he's tougher than I think a

1035
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: lot of people want to give him credit for. He's

1036
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: actually shown last two weeks like he's tough, Like you

1037
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: can't say that he's turned it down. I just don't

1038
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: know how good he is. Like he's tough and he

1039
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: has some physical capabilities, he can scramble around. But I like,

1040
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: Sam to me, this is why I love the game.

1041
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, I actually think the Jacksonville's coaching coaching staff

1042
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: is good. I mean, Liam's been impressive. Their coaching staff's good.

1043
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 2: Clearly Seattle's got a good coaching staff. But the quarterback

1044
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: mismatch in this game, I think pretty well. I mean

1045
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: Sam coming into this game objectively based on stats is like,

1046
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 2: might have been the best quarterback in the league through

1047
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 2: the first five games.

1048
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: Well, Jackson Smith and Jigba is a monster. He is

1049
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: a fricking monster. One hundred and sixty two yards. Sam

1050
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: had a throw it'll get no play, no highlights to

1051
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and it was such a sly, clever, little throw.

1052
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: And again Cooper at this point doesn't run, but it

1053
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: was just like one of those Oh that's a pro throw.

1054
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: Aaron had a couple of these. Aaron Rodgers does these

1055
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: throws where you throw it into the corner. If it

1056
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: gets picked, somebody goes one hundred yards and it was

1057
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: Sam threw it and it was quick to Cooper Cup,

1058
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: who doesn't separate any longer. But I think the thing

1059
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence is why, I mean, Urban Meyer wasn't

1060
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: a pro coach. That's fine, I mean Bill Pelow jackson

1061
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: not a college coach, that's fine. But why has Jacksonville

1062
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: always beat themselves? Why do they always have so many penalties?

1063
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: Why do they always have so many big plays and

1064
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: touchdowns called back? That's on Trevor. It's like, you can't

1065
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: blame anybody else but Caleb Williams. When the operations of

1066
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: the Bears offense looks clunky, like Drake May is a

1067
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: freaking robot, like he's AI. He's not doing that. I

1068
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: mean in New England's a young team with a bunch

1069
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: of new players. They have penalties too, but Drake May's

1070
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: figured it out quickly. I mean, Trevor's been in this

1071
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: leege a long time and it's just today ten penalties,

1072
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: touchdowns called back. I just always feel like they're a

1073
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: bit of a They're just never buttoned up. And I

1074
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: think Liam Cohen's a good coach, So I don't know.

1075
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: I just I look at Seattle as a team like

1076
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: Green Bay. They're young, they are not quite sure how

1077
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: to put people away. I mean, you're watching this game,

1078
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: and I'm watching this game. Seattle is the better team.

1079
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: They won this thing by four touchdowns. They you know,

1080
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: young teams struggle. How do you put teams away? They

1081
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: just don't quite know how to do it yet. But

1082
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you watching Seattle and watching their road record,

1083
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: and remember young players, when they do get hurt, get

1084
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: healthier sooner. I think Seattle blew Pittsburgh out. I think

1085
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: Seattle is live. I still think they can win that

1086
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: I watched the Rams today. I think Seattle. I'm going

1087
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: to take Seattle to win the division.

1088
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did at the beginning of the year at

1089
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: five to one. I'm with you. I also think, you know,

1090
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 2: part of being one of the great prospects of all time,

1091
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: which I think we all agree that was, he's not.

1092
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: But like what goes with that at quarterback is not

1093
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: just physical attributes. It's bringing everything to the table. You

1094
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: watch some of these highlights of Peyton Manning or Troy Aikman,

1095
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: these former number one picks John Elway screaming at guys,

1096
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: holding them. They get to act like a coach. They're

1097
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: the highest paid guy in the building. They're the heartbeat

1098
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: of the building. Everyone's looking at them. And that's just

1099
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: never going to be Trevor Lawrence's thing. So part of

1100
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: the penalty is, like the coach can only yell you

1101
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: so much. They literally do. Coaches yell at you constantly.

1102
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: But like when the quarterback holds you accountable, and I

1103
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: just don't think that they have that. I'm sure they

1104
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: respect him because back to the toughness thing, he's really

1105
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: proven that. I always kind of question that's he's showing

1106
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 2: that this year, But I mean, yeah, they're just they

1107
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 2: actually are a pretty talented team. But like if their

1108
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 2: most talented player, Brian Thomas is not going to catch

1109
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: balls over the middle consistently. Because Trevor at actually had

1110
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 2: a couple nice passes in big spots over the middle,

1111
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: they's got dropped or he didn't want to catch it,

1112
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, this is there's just going to be

1113
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: something a little bits And it goes also back to

1114
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 2: the Travis Hunter, think very talented player. I just feel

1115
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: like they're a little lost with that. You know, with

1116
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: him kind of going both ways. You can't just go

1117
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: all in with him as an offensive player, which I

1118
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: think is probably the right move. But yeah, I mean

1119
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: I would pick the Colts to win that division right now,

1120
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 2: and I would say I would say Seattle is a

1121
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 2: very very good chance. They just got to be healthy.

1122
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 2: If they're fully healthy, they're going to be very tough

1123
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: to deal with.

1124
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 1: By the way, don't want to spend too much time

1125
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: on the Patriots twenty five beating the Saints twenty five nineteen.

1126
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: But Drake May they are over three hundred yards eighteen

1127
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: and twenty six. They're asking him to throw it. He

1128
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: also had nine scrambles.

1129
00:56:58,560 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: He's a hit.

1130
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: There is no now again, he gets Mike Frable. They

1131
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: spent some money on the O and D line. But

1132
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: if you didn't watch this game, and it's a corner

1133
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: TV game, as my friend Chad Milman would say, it's

1134
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: it's it's that eighth blocks or Scott Hans here I

1135
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: am in a lower eight. Drake May is a hit.

1136
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: I think we can safely say that Drake May is

1137
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: a hit.

1138
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: Isn't powerful what confidence will do for young players? You

1139
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: know early that that first game against the Raiders, even

1140
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: I thought I was like, whoa, whoa, something's a little

1141
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 2: something's a little off. They get a couple of wins

1142
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: and then you have that moment that could be a

1143
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: career changing moment. Buffalo Sunday Night Football. It's the number

1144
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: one television show in America. I mean everyone, you're you're

1145
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: playing the Bills that have the defending MVP, which I

1146
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: would imagine in Drake May's life, he's never played an

1147
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 2: environment quite like that. Yeah right, I mean that's you know,

1148
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: some of these teams in the a c SE on

1149
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: NC State probably doesn't feel like that on a Saturday

1150
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 2: afternoon to win and play that well you saw today.

1151
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: Now listen, Saint's got a little cowboy by. They are

1152
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: not very good on defense. They're actually a fun team

1153
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: to watch. They will chuck it around offensively. But he

1154
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: looks like a dramatically more confident player. And you could

1155
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: argue is that the most underrated aspect for a young

1156
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: quarterback is like does he believe in himself because a

1157
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: lot of these guys have talent. Well, we see guys

1158
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: year and year out, but when they go into the tank,

1159
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 2: look at Sam Donald. Sam Donald, we used to be like,

1160
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: guy turns the ball over all the time. I'm watching him.

1161
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: Now he doesn't put the ball in harms way.

1162
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: Really well, I think remember Mike Rabel and Camp said

1163
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: he's just got to believe in himself. He has to

1164
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: realize that being a leader means being a leader every day.

1165
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: That was Rabel's quote in the camp. So Brabel was

1166
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: telling you he's gotten in him. But he's a young guy.

1167
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: I always said, this is hard to walk in at

1168
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: twenty five years old or twenty four. I mean Donald

1169
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: was twenty one when he walked into the league in

1170
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: New York and then act like a leader. There's thirty

1171
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: four year old men in there. You're twenty one and

1172
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: if you have self awareness, you want to be a jerk.

1173
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: And I and I do think the Baker may Field,

1174
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the component that that, like, I

1175
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: believe in myself, Baker's rare. He's an outlier. Most young

1176
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: people come into a room and they're you know, they're

1177
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: a little it's a little on inspiring. It's it's these

1178
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: are professional. Nobody looks like Miles Garrett in college or

1179
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: high school, right, Nobody else in the NFL looks like him.

1180
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: So I just I think Drake and by the way,

1181
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel's intimidating and so and the and free agency.

1182
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: They spent three hundred million dollars, so they brought in

1183
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: some old dudes, like old dudes making money. And I

1184
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: think Drake may was like Carolina football. You know, Mac

1185
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: Brown is very chill. You know, it's Max like the

1186
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: most likable guy.

1187
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1188
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: Rabel's a barker. Rabel's intense, Rabel smart, Rabel gets after you.

1189
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: So I think it's same with same with Josh. I mean,

1190
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: Josh pretty intense guy, isn't he. Yeah, So and I

1191
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: like Josh, but he'll bark. So I think it. I

1192
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: think it's just kind of like, holy shit, this is

1193
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: a lot. But man, those last four games i've Drake May.

1194
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: Here's the air thing John. When he throws well running

1195
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: like when he's moving, it's no big deal. Like he

1196
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: doesn't lose his accuracy. A couple of these rolling left,

1197
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: rolling right, it doesn't affect him at all. Not that

1198
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: he throws better that way, but he throws moving is irrelevant.

1199
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: Some guys move and their accuracy dips. Yeah, not at

1200
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: all with Drake May. From what I can tell.

1201
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: Well, the modern day quarterback is no longer. We've been

1202
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: talking about this forever. Is the group of the Eli's

1203
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: and the Philip Rivers and the paid Mannings. It is

1204
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: the Jackson Darts. It's the Drake Mays, and it's led

1205
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: by the Mahomes Lamar's. I mean, even Joe Burrow can move,

1206
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: and obviously Josh Allen. So the you're just not getting

1207
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 2: Jared Goff coming into the NFL anymore, you know, I mean,

1208
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: if you can't move, these teams aren't gonna be that

1209
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: interested in you in college, let alone in the pros.

1210
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: The best players are out are not. I wouldn't even

1211
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: say Lamar's an outlier. When I say a dual threat,

1212
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: I just mean mobility. If you don't have mobility, Mac

1213
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: Jones iss kind of got some mobility, and he's on

1214
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: the low low end, right. I mean, I would say

1215
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: average mobility is like Baker Mayfield relative, and even he

1216
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: feels like lost a little weight, a little quicker. But

1217
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: I mean Drake is what six four two thirty see,

1218
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: he's cut from the Herbert cloth. I mean, that's what

1219
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: it's ideally what you would want, and we might look

1220
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: back and go, God, he went third.

1221
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Speaker 1: let's wrap it with this. James Franklin got fired three

1239
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Speaker 1: and three record. They won thirteen games last year, but

1240
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: they had lost three close games in a row. You

1241
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,120
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01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,560
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01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,440
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1245
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: close games last year. This year they're losing all their

1246
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: close games. But it's who they're losing to. You can't

1247
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,280
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1248
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: although at home it's rough, but you can't lose to UCLA.

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01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: Ucla is not a top forty team, although they have

1250
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,120
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1251
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: it looks like the head coach that left may have

1252
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: been getting in the way of a pretty good staff

1253
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: beneath them, but he's only fifty three, so somebody's gonna

1254
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 1: hire him. The danger in doing this because he wasn't

1255
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Speaker 1: getting blown out, he was losing close games. The danger

1256
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: in doing this is what if the interim comes in

1257
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: wins five of the next six weeks, and then you

1258
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: hire the interim because the players, you know, the players

1259
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,800
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1260
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: The players are telling you they'll transfer if you don't

1261
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: hire the interim coach, they'll transfer. They'll go into the

1262
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:38,520
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1263
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: They've often bowed to that. You see this all the time, John.

1264
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Speaker 1: The hit rate. Look at Michigan right now on giving

1265
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Speaker 1: the popular assistant the job, it's not very good. Historically

1266
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: it's poor. It's about a twenty percent hit rate. So

1267
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: my take is, okay, now you've put yourself. Antonio Pierce

1268
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: got his job that way, the popular substitute teacher. I

1269
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't have fired him, would you.

1270
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,439
Speaker 2: I think you had to. I think it's the first

1271
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: time and you know, since they've been running the numbers

1272
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: and thirty plus years that a team has lost to

1273
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: back to back teams being a twenty plus point favorite.

1274
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 2: I mean a team quit on them, right. They approached

1275
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: the Oregon game like the Super Bowl. You know what's

1276
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: pretty crazy is when we talk about this a lot

1277
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: with young quarterbacks. They basically got two years now to

1278
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 2: show in college football. These buyouts, which I thought were

1279
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: going to be something impossible to overcome. I think there's

1280
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: so much money flow. Didn't the Big ten just get

1281
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: a two billion dollar investment from Venture Capital.

1282
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: Or somebody Online they are speculating that Adidas bought out

1283
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: James Franklin.

1284
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: Who starts next year, because I googled it immediately ten years,

1285
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: three hundred million dollars. So if I'm Adidas and I'm

1286
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: in for ten years three hundred million dollars, right for

1287
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: Penn State athletics, obviously, that's Penn State football and everything

1288
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: else gets to piggyback off that. I need them to

1289
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: be really good, and I'm kind of a junkie, so

1290
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: I just YouTube some Penn State like local podcasts. They

1291
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: have been losing a couple massive recruits the last couple

1292
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 2: of weeks. A lot of people think James Franklin, especially

1293
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 2: after the UCLA game, borderline just tapped out. It doesn't

1294
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: matter because he's got fifty million even if he's fired.

1295
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: So they almost didn't have a choice. This is not

1296
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: the AD that gave him that big extension. That was

1297
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 2: Sandy Barber former cal A d Who's just I mean,

1298
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: Jimmy Sexton. Is there has there ever been a negotiating

1299
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 2: negotiation mismatch quite like Jimmy Sexton. You can say the ads,

1300
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: but the AD's all, you know, answer to the presidents

1301
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 2: and the provosts, and it's academia verse Jimmy Sexton, and

1302
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: he is destroying them. It has been all these guys

1303
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: getting fired, and when Mike Norvel gets fired, and when

1304
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: the dude of Florida, they're all his clients, he's owning them.

1305
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: And I just think James frank they didn't have a choice.

1306
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: I also think James Franklin, like, don't be He's going to,

1307
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, be the Florida state head

1308
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 2: coach or the aberd head coach. He is by far

1309
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: one of the best candidates out there. What I have

1310
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: no problem doing it. I also just wonder, this is

1311
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: not twenty fifteen where you go Kurt Signetti one hundred

1312
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 2: percent leaving Indiana, he leaves Indiana, well, they got a

1313
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: bunch of money. He's making eight million dollars a year.

1314
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: He clearly can buy players. So it's like he would

1315
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: have had to leave ten seven eight pre nil. Does

1316
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 2: he need to now?

1317
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: Does no?

1318
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:20,479
Speaker 2: I mean so.

1319
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: Also, Indiana is his baby. I mean it's it's not

1320
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: Joe Paterno, Penn State, it's his baby. It's a basketball school.

1321
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: If I'm Kurt Signetti eight million dollars. By the way,

1322
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: they are so appreciative. Part of college football is being appreciated,

1323
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: like Oregon's Oh is good, but people were frustrated with

1324
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: Dan with Mario Christobal, couldn't win big road games. Oregon

1325
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: fans don't expect you to win national titles. But you

1326
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,439
Speaker 1: gotta get up to ten wins because they know Phil

1327
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: Knight's money and they have previous success doing that. But

1328
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: can't you Yeah, that's right, that's right. And so Penn State.

1329
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: I do think Penn State kind of views themselves at

1330
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: a level they're not quite. It's rural, is a It's

1331
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: not the easiest place to recruit. It's not merely as

1332
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: glamorous as Columbus or an Arbor or usc in Los Angeles.

1333
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: It's not as cool as Oregon. You lose cell phone

1334
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: coverage out there by the Nitney lion In. It's so

1335
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: and I'm not knocking it, but it's like James Franklin,

1336
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't think Penn State's a top seven program, and

1337
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: I think they're losing. I think Oregon is, I think

1338
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: Michigan is. I think Ohio State is, I think Notre

1339
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: Dame is. Those are top seven, eight nine programs. I

1340
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: think Penn State's on the outside of that. They view

1341
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: themselves as that, and I think you're probably right. I

1342
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: think he probably tapped out. And also I think ten

1343
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: to twelve years coaching these powerhouses, if you don't win

1344
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: a national championship, I mean, God, Calipari won, just won

1345
01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 1: at Kentucky and they ran him out. It's hard. Mark

1346
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: Feu told me this when he was at Gonzaga. He goes,

1347
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: I can recruit nothing but three star guys if I

1348
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: wanted to, He goes, I could win at UCLA at

1349
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,919
Speaker 1: the level I'm winning at Gonzaga, but I would get

1350
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: crushed if I was recruiting only three star guys. Like

1351
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: you go to these blue blood programs, people follow that.

1352
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: Fans are on your ass. So Kurt Signetti, nobody's sitting

1353
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,799
Speaker 1: around going get five star guys. It's his baby. Also,

1354
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: when you're at Indiana, I mean, I think the portals

1355
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: changed everything, John, don't. I think Indiana looks the part well.

1356
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 2: He wouldn't even have been able to do what he's

1357
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 2: doing if it wasn't for the portal because he landed

1358
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 2: this Mendoza kid from cal He would have had to

1359
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: just recruit either a junior college quarterback or recruit a kid.

1360
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 2: You literally couldn't have done this five years ago. Now

1361
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 2: you can turn This is why Belichick, if he does return,

1362
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: is going to be heavily under the micro. You can

1363
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 2: turn this thing around immediately. Yeah, now you don't. He's

1364
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 2: doing it like the highest level. He's gonna go to

1365
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 2: the play right back to back years. But you could

1366
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 2: win eight nine game. You can go from two to

1367
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: three wins to eight nine wins really fast. And that

1368
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 2: was impossible I think unless you were at like Ohio

1369
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: State or something ever, at one of these random schools.

1370
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: But I think Penn Steak goes we were paying obviously

1371
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 2: the head coach, they're paying their coordinators. Their defensive coordinator

1372
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 2: highest paid coordinator in the league, their offensive coordinator, the

1373
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,759
Speaker 2: guy from Kansas Colneck. He makes a ton their roster.

1374
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 2: They had a bunch of guys return you're cutting. This

1375
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 2: is why I was kind of give him credit. Arch

1376
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,560
Speaker 2: Manning played his best game by far on Saturday against Oklahoma.

1377
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: He was stats don't reflected he was. He was good

1378
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: relative the way he'd been playing. But I was like,

1379
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 2: these boosters and whoever's paying all this money is not

1380
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 2: going to keep the money flowing. If you do not win,

1381
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: you will get cut off. Now, I actually kind of

1382
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: believe the Adidas thing. Even if you were at USC

1383
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 2: or Notre Dame, who could just find fifteen million dollars,

1384
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 2: Like even if you got five people that means ten

1385
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: million dollars each. I mean, unless they're bezos or whatever,

1386
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: you could be worth a couple hundred million dollars. Five

1387
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: million dollars or ten million we're talking has a lot

1388
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: of that's liquid cash. I mean, this is this is

1389
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 2: a lot of money we're talking and that's just for

1390
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: the head coach. That's not going to count the staff

1391
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: when you blow them out. All the nil money are

1392
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 2: paying the players. This is a lot more complicated now

1393
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: with the the revenue streams that you need to fund football,

1394
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: like you know all these basketball coaches. Basketball is actually

1395
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 2: much easier to operate economically because I just need you know,

1396
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: five or six million if I want to land three

1397
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: or four good guys, and then I can get some

1398
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: transfer portal guys from you know, mid major schools that

1399
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 2: cost But my roster, I'm only going to play seven

1400
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 2: eight guys in college football. It's like I got multiple

1401
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: running backs, I got multiple wide receivers. I need some

1402
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 2: d linemen. I also got to pay some of these,

1403
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: especially at a place like Penn State, Like your high

1404
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: school recruits cost money. Now let alone the returners so

1405
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 2: and then let alone the coaches. This is has there

1406
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 2: ever been a business? I mean, obviously like being a

1407
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 2: ceo on Wall Street. But these guys Jimbo Fisher getting

1408
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: paid seventy seven million dollars not to work, you know,

1409
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: they say the America. I mean, how many human beings

1410
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 2: have ever been these guys. I mean, at the end

1411
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: of the day their job, they have a whistle around

1412
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 2: their neck. I mean, what an incredible time to be

1413
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 2: a football coach right now?

1414
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, James Franklin's a good looking guy. With high energy.

1415
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: I think he'll go into broadcasting and probably be a

1416
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: great fit. He's kind of a magnetic guy. Again, I

1417
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: understand firing him. I think it's really dangerous to fire

1418
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: a coach this early. They've got some better personnel than

1419
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: about ninety percent of the teams they are playing. Good

1420
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: luck if they go on a winning streak. Because the

1421
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: interim coach is the substitute teacher, they're the most popular. Also,

1422
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,799
Speaker 1: let's throw this in. USC hammered Michigan thirty one to thirteen.

1423
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: Didn't feel that close. The truth was USC played physical football.

1424
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if Michigan has the right coach. Underwood

1425
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: and marsh that receiver are freaking great talents. But USC

1426
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 1: actually stepped up. Now. They're an eight and a half

1427
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: point dog at Notre Dame next week, and I don't

1428
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: think they can beat Notre Dame. I don't think it's

1429
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: a great matchup. Notre Dame's quarterback's really good. I think

1430
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: he'll just pick him apart, they did get their best

1431
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: player back on the back end of their defense, Kabari Ramsey.

1432
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: So I don't think USC's gonna beat Notre Dame or

1433
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 1: Oregon on the road. I don't think they're good enough.

1434
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: To do that.

1435
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: But I thought it was a pretty substantial win because

1436
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: the knock has been Lincoln Riley's teams are soft, and

1437
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 1: I thought in the trenches, I mean, god with King Miller,

1438
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: a walk on freshman running back huge holes. I thought

1439
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 1: it was the kind.

1440
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 2: He looked like. He looked like Donnald today. I mean,

1441
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: he was killing him.

1442
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: I think it meant something to Lincoln Riley. It was

1443
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: a very I mean it looked like old USC. The lights,

1444
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: the crowd, you know you saw that. You know, it

1445
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: just looked big the night, the night stuff. But I

1446
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,839
Speaker 1: thought it was big for I said this on Friday.

1447
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: This was not just a typical USC game. They had

1448
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 1: to win. I thought they would win. I didn't think

1449
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 1: it would be that dominating. What was your takeaway?

1450
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 2: I looked at the border early Saturday morning and I thought,

1451
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any individual head coach. It turned

1452
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 2: out it was Franklin, but I assume they would win

1453
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 2: that game. That had more pressure on him yesterday than

1454
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley. I thought it was like a fork in

1455
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: the road moment for his program. Yeah, he can't because

1456
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 2: he would have been owned to he just would have

1457
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: lost Illinois and lost to Michigan. And like you said,

1458
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: they got hard games coming up. It's like you gotta

1459
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 2: beat be able to be sure this is not Jim

1460
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 2: Harbaugh JJ McCarthy, and you got to beat your own

1461
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 2: more and a rookie quarterback or freshman quarterback and not

1462
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: only beat him like you said, thirty one thirteen, that

1463
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: felt like forty five to seven. Yeah, he through the

1464
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: pick in the red zone at the at the end

1465
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: of the first half of man. Yeah, they look offensively

1466
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,560
Speaker 2: for the first time, and it was I've watched I

1467
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: would say fifty to seventy five percent of some of

1468
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 2: their games. I hadn't watched start to finish every snap.

1469
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 2: That felt a little Oklahoma e offensively. I mean that

1470
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 2: receiver they have Lemon, that the number six is elite,

1471
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 2: I mean he is. He is looks like I don't know,

1472
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 2: I'm in Ross Saint Brown's. I mean he's a dominant player.

1473
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: Their running game was awesome and that was a huge

1474
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 2: part of Lincoln Riley's thing back with Baker Mayfield, Kyler

1475
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: Murray and Jay was running the ball. So if you

1476
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 2: can run the ball and you got NFL ride receivers.

1477
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 2: They can let you up and listen.

1478
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: They were down to their third running back. That's what's impressive.

1479
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: That's a walk on. They didn't have Jordan, they didn't

1480
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: have Sanders, they didn't have their top two running backs.

1481
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: Now they use Jackson, who was a third or a

1482
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: four stringer. He actually I thought as a freshman last year,

1483
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: he's a bit he's kind of a different body composition.

1484
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: He's a big, strong kid. I wish they'd play him more,

1485
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 1: but he didn't. You know, they didn't have their stars

1486
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: in the backfield, and they're a run first team.

1487
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: I give them a fighting chance against Notre Dame. You know,

1488
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: obviously they have no chance to win a lower scoring,

1489
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: toughened out game. They would have to get a little

1490
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: bit of a shootout and try to win, like I

1491
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 2: don't know, thirty to twenty five or something. But I

1492
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 2: was blown away by the efficiency on their office. Now,

1493
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: you know, Winks kind of a feast or famine defensive coordinator.

1494
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: I mean he's blitzing every single play. But I thought Lincoln,

1495
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: that that was the moment where Lincoln versus Wink Martindale

1496
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 2: looked like JV vers varsity. That was a pretty special

1497
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 2: offensive performance. I will say, and this is your whole

1498
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: thing about the Big Ten and the conference re alignment.

1499
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 2: It's hard to watch that game and not go that

1500
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 2: that's pretty cool.

1501
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm a PAC twelve guy, but

1502
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry watching Oregon Penn State and watching

1503
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: USC Michigan. Folks. It's worth it. I mean, it's just

1504
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 1: worth it. It's nothing against Cal against Arizona, but it

1505
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: was a very college football's regional to begin with. PAC

1506
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: twelve felt super regional, and it was just like I

1507
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: was done with it. I had told friends five years

1508
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 1: ago USC wants to get out of the conference. I

1509
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 1: mean there was there were companies. I don't even know

1510
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: if it was Amazon or some company went to USC

1511
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: and offered to just pay for their games. I know

1512
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 1: Fox was interested years ago in doing it because they

1513
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 1: were getting frustrated with a PAC twelve and the leadership

1514
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: at the time.

1515
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 2: So I I like it like NBC does for Notre Dame.

1516
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: Just give him like an exclusive deal.

1517
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't want to speak, you know,

1518
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: because I don't have all the information. But I went

1519
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: to Larry Jones, a former exec one time at Fox,

1520
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 1: and I said, have you ever considered just for the

1521
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: night programming on Saturday night just by USC's games, And

1522
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: it wouldn't tell me if he was doing it or not.

1523
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: He smiled kind of a sly smile, so I thought,

1524
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's a smart guy. I know Larry

1525
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: very well. But it's one of those things they were

1526
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: complaining for years, like why are we treated no better

1527
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: than Washington State and Oregon State? What are we doing here?

1528
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: Like we're the LA market. We don't get treated. I

1529
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: mean Alabama and Saban run the SEC. And there's other

1530
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: you know, LSU in Georgia and Tennessee and Florida. There's

1531
01:16:54,600 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: big boy football everywhere. So it's people. I understand, people

1532
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: that love tradition. You know, they're outraged about to live tour.

1533
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not that guy. But it's like baseball.

1534
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but the Mariners Tigers played fifteen in the

1535
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 1: game would have been seven hours years ago. But with

1536
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,839
Speaker 1: the pitch clock, you can sit and watch fifteen innings

1537
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: of baseball and it's pretty compelling. It moves pretty quickly.

1538
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

1539
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: I just thought it was a huge win. Here's the thing,

1540
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: about Lincoln Riley. Two things. They beat LSU, Texas A

1541
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 1: and M last year and should have beaten Penn State,

1542
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: and now they've beaten Michigan. So like he's beating some

1543
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: of the big teams. You can say, well, LSU and

1544
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,440
Speaker 1: Texas and listen, they're on the schedule, they're well funded programs.

1545
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: I don't think they can win over Oregon or at Opson.

1546
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: Oregon's a bad matchup. I don't think Notre Dame. Teams

1547
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: with great quarterbacks will give them trouble. You can pick

1548
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: them apart. But the second thing about him is you

1549
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: can't watch USC football and not see the coaching. Jade

1550
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 1: and Mayava was at UNLV. I watched Jade Mayava play

1551
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: because I used to go to every UNLV football game

1552
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: when I was a sportscaster in Vegas, so I kind

1553
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,839
Speaker 1: of follow it. Jane Miava was not an NFL prospect.

1554
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: I saw a mock draft. Today they have him going

1555
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: in the first That's a product of Lincoln Riley. That

1556
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: kid was so reckless and sloppy last year. That pick

1557
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: he had against Michigan was his first really bad pick

1558
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 1: of the year. He did that regularly.

1559
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: Last year.

1560
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: He had a couple of them against Notre Dame. So

1561
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: when you watch USC's offense, you don't have to like

1562
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,919
Speaker 1: their toughness of their culture. Lincoln Riley's a really smart

1563
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: offensive coach. They use ever, they squeeze every ounce out

1564
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 1: of their talent. They don't have a lot of five

1565
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: star guys. John Lemon's are really high end receiver. They

1566
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: got a lot of three star, four star guys. The

1567
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 1: left tackle they flipped from Notre Dame. But this is

1568
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:47,799
Speaker 1: not justin tune. Who the right tackle, Raymond the left guard?

1569
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: You know these are three star recruits. They're not getting

1570
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: a lot of love. So the guy can coach? Can

1571
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: he build a culture? I don't know.

1572
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: I'd say this, he wins this weekend, you can drop

1573
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: the Jim Moral playoffs because they'd be in a have

1574
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: a good shot. They would start feeling like a serious

1575
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 2: playoff team.

1576
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: All right for hard rock bet John, I like I

1577
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: went four and on my blazing five. I like Washington

1578
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: minus four and a half against Chicago number one. Chicago

1579
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: has not been a good road team four years Washington.

1580
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: If you watch the second half against the Chargers, Jaden

1581
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: Daniels looked like last year's Jaden Daniels, Terry McLaurin appears

1582
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 1: to be healthy. I think Washington right now is a

1583
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 1: better operation. Now. Chicago was off last week. That can

1584
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 1: certainly help with your first series or two. But the

1585
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: Bears have been good on their first series or two.

1586
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't expect that too. That's not my issue about Chicago.

1587
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 1: It's the basic operation when you get off script. I

1588
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: don't think extra time necessarily helps. Can only put so

1589
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 1: many plays on script. So I like Washington at home

1590
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: in this spot. I think it's gonna be a wild,

1591
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 1: loud environment. That may not matter in baseball, I think

1592
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: it matters a lot in the NFL when you're a

1593
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: young quarterback and a young team going on the road.

1594
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: I like Washington to win and cover.

1595
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Bears in the points because I

1596
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 2: think anytime that you have a young quarterback and a

1597
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 2: first time head coach, they can use that dead time

1598
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 2: to kind of throw away some stuff that's not working.

1599
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 2: So I'm with you that they have looked good coming

1600
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 2: out the game. That doesn't change. But I think a

1601
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 2: huge part of like Andy Reid or Kyle Shanahan or

1602
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: Sean McVay, these guys have a lot of success off

1603
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 2: the bye week is because they can simplify stuff. They go,

1604
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 2: this isn't working, we keep doing throw it away, throw

1605
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 2: it in the garbage, and listen if we believe Ben

1606
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 2: Johnson is the thirteen million dollar coach and this offensive

1607
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 2: genius and just this high level guy. I think that

1608
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: they look a little more buttoned up because one knock

1609
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 2: on them would be even remove. Caleb was like, you know,

1610
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 2: they've a lot of penalties, a lot of stuff going on.

1611
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 2: You have the bye week, you take a deep breath

1612
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 2: and you just get rid of some of the complicated

1613
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: stuff that some of these young coaches like throwing at you.

1614
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 2: So I like the Bears in the points, especially because

1615
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: this has got to be a little you know, the

1616
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 2: Hail Mary game. They had to be talking about this

1617
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 2: for the last two weeks that a lot of those

1618
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 2: guys that he's going to roll out on Monday night

1619
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 2: were a part of that. I mean, that's one of

1620
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,440
Speaker 2: the worst losses you'll ever see.

1621
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: John Middlecoff Sunday, let's go watch some football.

1622
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: See it the volume