Speaker 1: Welcome at his verdict was Senator Ted Cruz ben Ferguson
Speaker 1: with you as well, and Senator you and I have
Speaker 1: been preparing for this show today. It is, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: maybe one of the most important podcasts that we've done together.
Speaker 1: And it is under the premise of a headline that
Speaker 1: the military could have stopped Afghanistan bomber who killed thirteen
Speaker 1: American service members, but they, the military men on the ground,
Speaker 1: the women on the ground, could not get authorization to
Speaker 1: take out this bomber because the Biden administration basically turned
Speaker 1: this into a massive quagmire. That is some shocking testimony
Speaker 1: that came out from a man that is lucky to
Speaker 1: still be alive who told his story to Congress this week. Well,
Speaker 1: that's right. Sergeant Tyler Vargas Andrews testified on Wednesday this
Speaker 1: week before the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and I got
Speaker 1: to say his testimony was incredibly power It is moving,
Speaker 1: it is personal. This man as an American hero, and
Speaker 1: what he testified about that the failure of the chain
Speaker 1: of command above him, that these thirteen servicemen and women
Speaker 1: who were murdered could have been saved, is enormously consequential,
Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you right now then, I am
Speaker 1: pissed off that after this testimony, there's been virtually zero
Speaker 1: coverage of this in the corporate media. They've just completely
Speaker 1: ignored it. What you're going to hear right now, you
Speaker 1: haven't heard on the six o'clock news, you haven't heard
Speaker 1: on cable news. And this testimony is important. One of
Speaker 1: the things about this podcast. We cover issues of foreign
Speaker 1: policy and national security that much of the corporate media ignores.
Speaker 1: And this matters because people's lives were lost because of
Speaker 1: the incompetence of the Biden administration. There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: And this is also emotional testimony. We're going to play
Speaker 1: large chunks of this. I will say this on the
Speaker 1: front end. Please make sure that you share this podcast
Speaker 1: because every American needs to hear this testimony so that
Speaker 1: you understand what happened in Afghanistan at that airport when
Speaker 1: we were pulling out of Afghanistan, and the lack of
Speaker 1: command and leadership from the Biden administration. Now, before we
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Speaker 1: moment ago as a hero, and you're gonna hear him
Speaker 1: talk fast at some points to try to get through
Speaker 1: information and then have very long pauses. There were many
Speaker 1: times in his testimony that he was crying. If you
Speaker 1: hear those long pauses, I just wanted you to know
Speaker 1: in context what was going on, and I want you
Speaker 1: to hear him tell his story about what it was
Speaker 1: like to be at that airport. As they were trying
Speaker 1: to find Americans and American allies who had helped us
Speaker 1: in that war against terrorists, tens of thousands of people
Speaker 1: to send it upon Abbygate. We were looking for anyone
Speaker 1: with a blue passport first and foremost people were suffering
Speaker 1: from extreme malnutrition, dehydration, heat, casualties and infants were dying.
Speaker 1: Afghans were brutalized and tortured by the Taliban, flocked to
Speaker 1: us pleading for help. Some Afghans turned away from h
Speaker 1: KaiA tried to kill themselves on the razor wire in
Speaker 1: front of us that we used as a deterrent. They
Speaker 1: thought this was merciful compared to the Taliban torture that
Speaker 1: they faced with only shipping. They thought. Countless Afghans were
Speaker 1: murdered by the Taliban one hundred and fifty five yards
Speaker 1: in front of our position day and night, with only
Speaker 1: shipping containers between us. The Taliban would routinely murder people
Speaker 1: on our observation at their checkpoint. We communicated the atrocities
Speaker 1: to our chain of command and intel assets, but nothing
Speaker 1: came of it. The troops on the ground had to
Speaker 1: tirelessly work to control the crowds day and night. Department
Speaker 1: of State staff and each Kai would completely shut down
Speaker 1: processing Afghans every evening and into the morning, leaving ground
Speaker 1: forces with a nightmare. They did not work in reasonable
Speaker 1: rotations and very much presented an unwillingness to work in
Speaker 1: other situations as well. No matter our health or condition,
Speaker 1: the marine stood watch and engaged in disorderly, endangerous crowds.
Speaker 1: State was not prepared to be in h KaiA. In fact,
Speaker 1: State would not want to deal with the Afghans unable
Speaker 1: to be processed, weakening the security of the perimeter. State
Speaker 1: would take us away from our mission to walk Afghans
Speaker 1: out to meet the fate of the Taliban, condemning them
Speaker 1: to death. The Taliban grew in numbers and strengthen their
Speaker 1: position around ash Kai with gun trucks, while having occasional
Speaker 1: visits by Taliban leadership. On August twenty second, an improvised
Speaker 1: explosive device IED probe took place down in the canal
Speaker 1: running along the perimeter of ah KaiA. This was ISIS
Speaker 1: or the Taliban performing an id test run. We reported
Speaker 1: this to our chain of command. Days later, we received
Speaker 1: word to be on the lookout for two vehicle born
Speaker 1: IDs described as a gold or white Corolla and a
Speaker 1: green Mazda convertible. Around two am in August twenty sixth,
Speaker 1: Intel guys confirmed the suicide bomber in the vicinity of
Speaker 1: and nearing Abbey Gate, described as clean shaven, brown dressed,
Speaker 1: black vest and traveling with an older companion. I asked
Speaker 1: Intel guys why he wasn't apprehended sooner, since we had
Speaker 1: a full description. I was told the asset could not
Speaker 1: be compromised throughout the entirety of the day. On August twenty,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, we disseminated the suicide bomber information to
Speaker 1: ground Forces Abbeygate. He was spotted somewhere from noon to
Speaker 1: one pm by myself, then Sergeant Charles Schilling, and another
Speaker 1: the anomaly in the crowd, who was clean shaven and
Speaker 1: fit the description exactly, traveling with an older gentleman. The
Speaker 1: individuals consistently and nervously looking up at our position through
Speaker 1: the crowd. The older of the two wore a black,
Speaker 1: silky hit job that was covering his face most of
Speaker 1: the time. They both had obvious mannerisms that go along
Speaker 1: with who we believed him to be. They handed out
Speaker 1: small cards to the crowd periodically, and the older man
Speaker 1: sat calmly and seemingly coached the bomber. Over the communication network.
Speaker 1: We passed that there was a potential threat and an
Speaker 1: idea attack imminent. This was as serious as it could get.
Speaker 1: I requested engagement authority. While my team leader was ready
Speaker 1: on the M one ten semi automatic sniper system. The
Speaker 1: response leadership did not have the engage him an authority
Speaker 1: for us do not engage. I requested for the battalion commander,
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Brad Wided to come to the tower to
Speaker 1: see what we did. While we waited for him, psychological
Speaker 1: operations individuals came to our tower immediately and confirmed the
Speaker 1: suspect met the suicide bomber description. He eventually arrived and
Speaker 1: we showed him our evidence, the photos we had of
Speaker 1: the two men. We reassured him of the ease of
Speaker 1: fire on the suicide bomber. Pointedly, we asked him for
Speaker 1: engagement authority and permission. We asked him if we could
Speaker 1: shoot our battalion commander said, and I quote, I don't
Speaker 1: know end quote. Myself and my team later asked, very harshly,
Speaker 1: well who does, because this is your responsibility, sir. He
Speaker 1: again replied he did not know, but would find out.
Speaker 1: We received no update and never got our answer. Eventually,
Speaker 1: the individual disappeared. To this day, we believe he was
Speaker 1: a suicide bomber. We made everyone on the ground of
Speaker 1: where operations had briefly halted but then started again. Plain
Speaker 1: and simple, we were ignored. Plain and simple, we were ignored. Senator,
Speaker 1: you're an initial reaction to what you just heard. There
Speaker 1: are so much about that that is infuriating. Let's start
Speaker 1: with the fact that every bit of that was unnecessary.
Speaker 1: One of the very first things the Biden administration did
Speaker 1: that was utterly incompetent is they abandoned Bagram Airfield. Bagram
Speaker 1: Airfield was a secure military base with two world class
Speaker 1: runways that had a secure perimeter that was safe that
Speaker 1: you could fly people out, that you could do the
Speaker 1: vetting with. They abandoned it. They just handed it over
Speaker 1: to the Taliban, and so instead they performed the evacuation
Speaker 1: through h Kaya. Now, what is h Kai h kayas
Speaker 1: is the Hamid Karzai International Airport. It's a commercial airport.
Speaker 1: It's it's an ordinary airport right in the middle of Kabul,
Speaker 1: right in the middle of a big populated city, surrounded,
Speaker 1: not secure, not a military base. The decision to conduct
Speaker 1: the evacuation from an unsecure commercial airport rather than a
Speaker 1: secure military base was colossally incompetent. It was unjustifiable. The
Speaker 1: reason that happened is because the Biden White House put
Speaker 1: politics above everyone else and everything else, and so they
Speaker 1: ordered the troop draw down before the evacuation was complete.
Speaker 1: And so the military told the White House, well, at
Speaker 1: the level of troop draw down, you're ordering us to
Speaker 1: hit we can't keep Bogram airfield. And the White House
Speaker 1: essentially said, we don't care. We picked a number out
Speaker 1: of our rear end and we're sticking to that number.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if that's sufficient manpower to do the
Speaker 1: job or not. We got a political endeavor. So you've
Speaker 1: got a bunch of incompetent political operatives in the w
Speaker 1: White House setting arbitrary political tasks. The result. Look at
Speaker 1: the beginning of his testimony, he talks about how as
Speaker 1: they were turning away Afghans, and many of these Afghans
Speaker 1: may have been interpreters, they may have been people who
Speaker 1: gave assistance to our soldiers. And he was talking about
Speaker 1: that the Afghans would throw themselves on the razor wire
Speaker 1: and try to kill themselves on the razor wire rather
Speaker 1: than face torture and murder from the Taliban. That's the
Speaker 1: consequence of the utter incomplete incompetence. But then you go forward. Look,
Speaker 1: they had the intel that a suicide bomber was coming in.
Speaker 1: They had the intel about what the suicide bomber looked like,
Speaker 1: They had the intel about what he was wearing, They
Speaker 1: had the intel about what his companion was, and they
Speaker 1: spotted him. They said, there he is. He's right there.
Speaker 1: It exactly fit the intel. And this testimony says that
Speaker 1: the Marines said, we can take him out right now.
Speaker 1: This is a sniper who is sitting there saying we
Speaker 1: can take him out. We know that a suicide bomber
Speaker 1: is coming, we know what he looks like. He is
Speaker 1: behaving exactly like a suicide bomber. And the utter incompetence
Speaker 1: of the Biden administration is that as as you just heard,
Speaker 1: we were ignored. They didn't do anything, and and it's
Speaker 1: difficult to overstate how much that makes my blood boil.
Speaker 1: One of the things that he said was he said
Speaker 1: it was the ease of fire. Yes, this was not
Speaker 1: a hard shot. They were saying, this is easy. It
Speaker 1: is as safe as it can get. It's as clear
Speaker 1: of a shot as we can get. If you talk
Speaker 1: to people in the military. We're describing it that way.
Speaker 1: They were saying, this was a no brainer scenario, and
Speaker 1: they just couldn't get somebody to tell them to go
Speaker 1: ahead and shoot based on the intel agents, not based
Speaker 1: on a hunt hunch this individual. And that I got
Speaker 1: to ask you sooner. Going back in his testimony to
Speaker 1: another point he made, he said that the Taliban had
Speaker 1: done a dry runner. Ices had done a dry run, right.
Speaker 1: He also mentioned that they were killing people and they
Speaker 1: were doing it almost like they for sport, seeing if
Speaker 1: the Americans would respond in or right right in front
Speaker 1: of them, right in front of him, and they knew
Speaker 1: I think clearly they were trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: weak America was at that moment, and they're like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: if we kill this guy right here in front of him,
Speaker 1: they don't do anything. We really are in control of
Speaker 1: this airfield. We really are in control of this other
Speaker 1: roadways to this airfield because the Americans are not given
Speaker 1: the power to engage. That's exactly right. And look, I
Speaker 1: want to convey a story to illustrate because there is
Speaker 1: a reason why this happened. And early on in the
Speaker 1: Trump administration, I bumped into General Mark Milly. General Milly
Speaker 1: now the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I've
Speaker 1: known General Milly since he was a three star general
Speaker 1: when he was the commanding general general at Fort Hood
Speaker 1: in Texas. And I was talking with General Milly, and
Speaker 1: it was the very beginning of the Trump administration, and
Speaker 1: he told me, he said, I was asking about the
Speaker 1: Islamic State, and the Islamic State, you recall, had seized
Speaker 1: land their self declared caliphate, about the size of the
Speaker 1: state of Indiana that they had control over. And you'll
Speaker 1: recall under Obama we'd been fighting there for a long
Speaker 1: time and fighting there and making very little progress, and
Speaker 1: fighting there and making little, very little progress. And I
Speaker 1: asked General Milly at the beginning of the Trump administration
Speaker 1: how things looked, what his assessment was of our prospects
Speaker 1: for success for taking out the Islamic State, and his
Speaker 1: answer shocked me. He said, we will retake every square inch,
Speaker 1: or virtually every square inch of the Islamic State caliphate
Speaker 1: in just a few months. And I asked him, I said,
Speaker 1: what why? What changed? And he said one thing, And
Speaker 1: I wondered. He said one thing. He said, they've delegated
Speaker 1: decisions down to the battlefield of when and how to engage.
Speaker 1: During the Obama administration, the White House made tactical battlefield decisions.
Speaker 1: Susan Rice, who was the National Security Advisor. Soldiers in
Speaker 1: the field would joke and they'd call her General Rice
Speaker 1: because they were literally determining, you can engage here, you
Speaker 1: can engage here, you can engage in this instance, you
Speaker 1: can engage in that instance. And it was run out
Speaker 1: of the White House by the political operatives in the
Speaker 1: White House. What Trump did at the outset as he said,
Speaker 1: what does it take to defeat these guys? All right,
Speaker 1: you have the authority on the battlefield to engage and
Speaker 1: take out the enemy. And simply giving that operational control
Speaker 1: down to the battlefield transformed the battlefield. And it turned
Speaker 1: out what General Militoby was right that within just a
Speaker 1: couple of months from then, every single square inch or
Speaker 1: virtually every square inch that the Islamic State had taken
Speaker 1: had fallen and they were utterly defeated. And this testimony
Speaker 1: shows the consequences. What does it tell us. It tells
Speaker 1: us that Biden came in with these same knitwits who
Speaker 1: were running the Obama disastrous National Security Council and they
Speaker 1: did the same thing. So in this instance, the sergeant testifies,
Speaker 1: they say, we've got the suicide bomber. He's in front
Speaker 1: of us, he's in our rifle sights. We can take
Speaker 1: him out. And his commander says, I don't even know
Speaker 1: who'd ask. It's got to be up in the chain.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that had to go all the
Speaker 1: way to the National Security Council or not. What I
Speaker 1: do know is the result was it had gone back
Speaker 1: to the same utterly ineffective ability for the war fighters
Speaker 1: to engage with the enemy. And in this instance the
Speaker 1: consequences were devastating. Not only were they devastating, but you
Speaker 1: also mentioned it earlier. This was all decisions made on politics,
Speaker 1: and I want to remind people this was about having
Speaker 1: a victory lap for the Biden administration. They wanted to
Speaker 1: say we got out of nine to eleven, a war
Speaker 1: that started because of nine to eleven before the date,
Speaker 1: on the anniversary of nine to eleven, that was why
Speaker 1: they rushed everybody out of Afghanistan as they wanted a
Speaker 1: victory Lapp saying on this anniversary nine eleven, we are
Speaker 1: out of America as long as war. And that was
Speaker 1: the obsession with that date and not caring about American
Speaker 1: carnage or anybody else that helped Americans or innocent and
Speaker 1: people in Afghanistan, because that was ultimately the goal they
Speaker 1: wanted that press conference. Look, that's exactly right. And and
Speaker 1: we've seen if you go back to the Vietnam War,
Speaker 1: when when you have war fighting dictated by political operatives
Speaker 1: and politicians in Washington, when their mate, when they're micro
Speaker 1: managing the engagement with the enemy, the result is that
Speaker 1: that servicemen and women die, young men and young women,
Speaker 1: young Americans die, And on that tragic day that that
Speaker 1: that that's exactly what happened. It's truly sad. I want
Speaker 1: to play this second part. It's very emotional and I'll
Speaker 1: say it again everybody, this should have been covered by
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Speaker 1: The second part that we're gonna play and you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear some pauses, you're gonna hear some tears. This is
Speaker 1: a man that is telling his story to the world
Speaker 1: for the first time of what happened at that airport
Speaker 1: as we were rushing to pull out of Afghanistan, all
Speaker 1: because we're trying to hit an arbitrary date for political gain.
Speaker 1: Here's the second part of this story. Our expertise was disregarded.
Speaker 1: No one was held to count for our safety. About
Speaker 1: seventeen thirty, staff Sergeant Darren Hoover, friend and mentor, came
Speaker 1: to get me from the tower to go help find
Speaker 1: an Afghan interpreter. In the crowd y. We found the
Speaker 1: interpreter and his brother born with American passports. They told
Speaker 1: us five told us of five family members still in
Speaker 1: the canal. I stayed there waiting for the family members,
Speaker 1: standing against a two foot canal wall. Ten minutes passed,
Speaker 1: then a flash in a massive wave of pressure, I'm
Speaker 1: throwing twelve feet onto the ground, but instantly knew what
Speaker 1: had happened. I opened my eyes to marines dead or
Speaker 1: unconscious lying around me. A crowd of hundreds immediately vanished
Speaker 1: in front of me, and my body was catastrophically wounded,
Speaker 1: with a one hundred, two hundred and fifty ball bearings
Speaker 1: now in it. Almost immediately we started taking fire from
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, and I saw how injured I was, with
Speaker 1: my right arm completely shredded and unusable. I saw my
Speaker 1: lower abdomen soaked in blood. I crawled backwards roughly seven
Speaker 1: feet because I thought I was still in harm's away.
Speaker 1: My body was overwhelmed from the trauma of the blast.
Speaker 1: My abdomen had been ripped open. Every inch of my
Speaker 1: exposed body except from my face to ball banks and strapnel.
Speaker 1: I tried to get up but could not. Laying there
Speaker 1: for a few minutes, I started to lose consciousness when
Speaker 1: I heard Chaz, my team leader, screaming my name. As
Speaker 1: he ran to me. His voice, his voice calling to
Speaker 1: me kept me awake. Thank you. When he got to me,
Speaker 1: he dragged me to safety and immediately started triaging me,
Speaker 1: tying turnikis on my limbs and doing anything he couldn't
Speaker 1: stop the bleeding and start plucking wounds with the help
Speaker 1: of the other Marines. I was awake through most of it, screaming,
Speaker 1: moaning and cursing. Please ask I ask you to please
Speaker 1: ask me about getting shot at the tower and Abby Gate,
Speaker 1: and how no one wanted my report post blast, even
Speaker 1: NCIS and the FBI failed to interview me. Asked me
Speaker 1: to elaborate on my ordeal post blast, and asked me
Speaker 1: about the one little girl and her family that I reunited.
Speaker 1: Our military members and veterans deserve our best because that
Speaker 1: is what we give to America. The withdrawal. The withdrawal
Speaker 1: was a catastrophe in my opinion, and there was an
Speaker 1: inexcusable lack of accountability and negligence. The eleven Marines, one
Speaker 1: sailor and one soldier that were murdered that day have
Speaker 1: not been answered for. Thank you for giving me this
Speaker 1: opportunity to speak. Sinner. My heart goes out to him
Speaker 1: because you can hear the pain, the suffering in the
Speaker 1: fact that he says no one wanted to hear my story.
Speaker 1: Let me say this, thank you to Sergeant Vargas Andrews. Tyler.
Speaker 1: Vargus Andrews is an American hero, and he is a
Speaker 1: marine who was horribly failed by his commander in chief.
Speaker 1: He's a marine who was horribly failed by the command
Speaker 1: shain above him that was ordered to follow political dictates
Speaker 1: and to elevate political priorities above protecting the Marines and
Speaker 1: the soldiers and sailors and airmen who were there on
Speaker 1: the ground risking their I listened to that testimony, you know,
Speaker 1: and I got to ask, if you're a producer at
Speaker 1: ABC News or NBC News or CBS or CNN or MSNBC,
Speaker 1: why didn't you air that testimony? What possibly was happening
Speaker 1: on Wednesday that was more important than what Sergeant Vargus
Speaker 1: Andrews had to say, What was more important than his
Speaker 1: testimony That they knew about the suicide bomber, that they
Speaker 1: had him in his sight, that they could have taken
Speaker 1: him out, that they could have saved the lives of
Speaker 1: those thirteen servicemen and women, and their commanding officers wouldn't
Speaker 1: let him do it. I can't imagine a news story
Speaker 1: more important than that. And this young man, this American hero,
Speaker 1: a hundred to one hundred and fifty ball bearings in
Speaker 1: his body, and it all could have been prevented. Number one,
Speaker 1: if they'd stayed in Bogram Airfield and dune the evacuation
Speaker 1: from a secure military base, it could have been prevented there.
Speaker 1: Or number two if they simply allowed warfighters to defend
Speaker 1: themselves and to take out the enemy when they're engaging
Speaker 1: with him, if they didn't play like they're engaging in
Speaker 1: a game of risk, a board game by a bunch
Speaker 1: of political neo fights who never put on a uniform
Speaker 1: in their lives, but are more than happy to say, well, look,
Speaker 1: the headline is what we care about, not how do
Speaker 1: you prevent these young men and young women from being
Speaker 1: murdered by the terrorists to whom they were in the
Speaker 1: process of surrendering too. There's also another question, I say another,
Speaker 1: there's quite a few, but the fact that he wasn't
Speaker 1: interviewed Senator Yep. The only reason why I can get
Speaker 1: get to a process of saying why wouldn't you interview
Speaker 1: him because you knew what he was gonna say, and
Speaker 1: you didn't want to hear it because you knew how
Speaker 1: damning it was. And so therefore he said, no one
Speaker 1: interviewed him from the FBI. CI asked, no, No, nobody
Speaker 1: interviewed him at all. He was there, he knew who
Speaker 1: he knew, He knew who the bomber was. He was
Speaker 1: there for the dr run. All of this happens, no
Speaker 1: one interviews him. That to me screams cover up. The
Speaker 1: administration knew this was a problem, that the Pentagon, the
Speaker 1: OJ knew this was a problem, and they said, we
Speaker 1: don't want to hear from the people that were there
Speaker 1: because we're too afraid of what they're gonna say. Look,
Speaker 1: he says, when he asked his superior officer, where do
Speaker 1: you get authorization? The answer was, I don't know. What
Speaker 1: in the hell are these people doing. If we are
Speaker 1: sending marines into combat where they don't even know where
Speaker 1: they get authorization to take out a suicide bomber before
Speaker 1: that suicide bomber murders them, that's incompetent. But it is
Speaker 1: also it's not just that they're bad at it. It's
Speaker 1: ideology that is causing that incompetence. You're right, they wanted
Speaker 1: to hit the nine to eleven anniversary because you know what,
Speaker 1: they're friends in the media. I would say, isn't that great? Look,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden had a great political victory, and you know,
Speaker 1: from their end, doing it so that people didn't die,
Speaker 1: doing it, so that our servicemen and women were protected,
Speaker 1: doing it so you didn't have Afghans killing themselves by
Speaker 1: throwing themselves on razor wire. None of that rose even
Speaker 1: remotely to the level of their political objective of getting
Speaker 1: a partisan win. And you know what's also infuriating Ben.
Speaker 1: To the best of my knowledge, nobody was fired. There
Speaker 1: was no accountability. All of the top brass are still there.
Speaker 1: The Secretary of Defense is still there. No one lost
Speaker 1: their job. You know. One of the things that that
Speaker 1: that that that sergeant, the sergeant testifies too, is that
Speaker 1: the State Department wasn't prepared at all handle things at
Speaker 1: h Kaya. You know what, the Secretary of State, he
Speaker 1: didn't lose his job. Nobody up and down the chain
Speaker 1: of command. The only people who paid a price were
Speaker 1: the people who were murdered, the people who were horribly injured,
Speaker 1: the people who were tortured by the Taliban, They're the
Speaker 1: ones that paid the price. But the political operatives all
Speaker 1: up and down are still just doing fine and facing
Speaker 1: zero accountability. And they know that the corporate media has
Speaker 1: no interest in accountability. They have no interest in what
Speaker 1: happened that took the lives of those heroic Americans. Final
Speaker 1: question for you, Senator, knowing that the Taliban was testing
Speaker 1: us in that moment, seeing what they could get away with,
Speaker 1: seeing how weak America's foreign policy in real time was becoming,
Speaker 1: when they were killing people in essence for sport, just
Speaker 1: to basically torture the American soldiers because they realized, wow,
Speaker 1: they're really not going to engage age. It wasn't just
Speaker 1: a catastrophe that came out of this in Afghanistan. Many
Speaker 1: of the world conflicts and problems we're having right now,
Speaker 1: I think came out of this man's story because the
Speaker 1: rest of the world realized in that moment they can
Speaker 1: do whatever the hell they want to do in America
Speaker 1: will not stop them. And now that we have this
Speaker 1: ball rolling down the hill of a weak America and
Speaker 1: others can do what they want, how concerned are you
Speaker 1: from a national security standpoint? Enormously concerned. Every enemy of
Speaker 1: America saw that disaster. Putin saw it. She saw it,
Speaker 1: Iran saw it. North Korea saw it. Venezuela saw it.
Speaker 1: Every terrorist cell across the globe, they all saw it,
Speaker 1: and all of them came to the same conclusion, which is,
Speaker 1: this is a commander in chief, chief who is weak
Speaker 1: and incompetent. This is a commander in chief who is
Speaker 1: a friend to fight. This is a commander in chief
Speaker 1: unwilling to do what it takes even to defend his
Speaker 1: own servicemen and women, never mind anyone else. And we're
Speaker 1: seeing the consequences of it right now with the war
Speaker 1: in Ukraine, the first major land war in Europe since
Speaker 1: World War Two. And we're seeing the consequences of it
Speaker 1: in the Pacific, with China more and more aggressive and
Speaker 1: Taiwan in greater and greater peril. And I'll tell you
Speaker 1: I met today with Taiwan's ambassador and I told the ambassador,
Speaker 1: I said, look, I think the danger that Taiwan is
Speaker 1: in for the next two years of the Biden presidency
Speaker 1: is enormous. Because she looked at what happened here and
Speaker 1: concluded this president is not strong enough to deter us
Speaker 1: from doing anything. Yeah, it is amazing how something like
Speaker 1: this can turn into such a big your conflict around
Speaker 1: the world. And this is again one of those moments.
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Speaker 1: with you. This is one of those shows. As we said,
Speaker 1: the beginning so important. I hope people will remember this
Speaker 1: man's story and let everybody hear it. We'll see you
Speaker 1: back here in a couple of days.