1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You know, coming in second round pick, you feel this 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: expectation and you feel this weight on you, and you 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: know I felt it especially early last year, and as 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: time has gone on, you're able to just kind of 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: let go of that, especially with guys like Zach and 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: John Bates, two of the best at. 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: At what they do in this league. And so I 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: know I. 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Understand it, but a lot of people outside the building 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: don't get that. So the way that I take I 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: just let it go and continue to put myself in 12 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: a position to be successful, work on myself. I can't 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: be John, I can't be Zach, and I'm just meet. 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 3: The Next Man in a podcast is presented by Lansdown Resort. 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: From kickoff to check can Score, game change and get 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: away in the heart of Louder Lansdown Resort, proud partner 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: of the Washington Commanders. 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 4: Welcome into the Next Man A bom the host Brian 19 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: Cooble Junior for here the Big Bear AI Command Center Studio, 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: and our guest is in here for the very first time. 21 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 5: Last time we had a whole other studio. 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 2: He was a kie. 23 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 5: Now he's a year two guy wocoming our next man up. 24 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 5: Ben Senate whatever brother. 25 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate It's a pleasure and. 26 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 5: It's great having you here. Man. Like I said, this 27 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 5: is year two for you. What's been different so far 28 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 5: in your opinion for year two for ben Centate. 29 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just the confidence going into this year, 30 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: having a year under your belt. That first year, you're 31 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: kind of throwing into that fire a little bit with 32 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: the draft prep and where you're going to end up 33 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: in the draft, and you got to move across the 34 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: country a lot of that. So just not having an offseason, 35 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, this year I was able to reset, got married. 36 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: Song appreciate it. 37 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: So just time away and you kind of learn a 38 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: thing or two going through a year, how things work, 39 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: what people expect of you, and going into this year 40 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: just so much more confident, games slowing down, and just 41 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: time on task and putting in the work on the 42 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: on the grasses. What's really helped. 43 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: And your rookie year you're coming in with new coaching staff, 44 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: new regime, but there's a lot of things that change 45 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: when you look back at your rookie year. 46 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 5: What's standing out to you? 47 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it was such a blur, But as far 48 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: as that, I mean just the the culture of the 49 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: team here. I'm so lucky. I'm so blessed to be 50 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: with guys and coaches like I am here. It's it's 51 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: a special place. And you see that with guys who 52 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: come in and they're like, wow, this place is different, 53 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: you know. 54 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: So that's such a blessing, you know, just. 55 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: Being here and feeling that support and everybody wants you 56 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: to just be as best you can. So it's it's 57 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: cool place to be. 58 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: And you called it a blur, I understand it. I 59 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: can't imagine what. There's like so many different things. I mean, 60 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 4: you're basically starting a brand new, brand new job right 61 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 4: when you got the chance to sit this off season 62 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 4: and kind of reflect and you said, you got married, 63 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 4: you did different things. What was something that you said, 64 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: I want to work on in my first full NFL 65 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 4: off season to help bring that into you too. 66 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the big one. 67 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: I guess technical standpoint on the field, just efficiency at 68 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: the top of my routes, and as far as the 69 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: run game, just keeping a grounded base on contact. I 70 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: try to keep things simple, not try to overcomplicate it 71 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: in my head, and focusing on those things in the 72 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: off season has helped me so much. And that's just 73 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: where that confidence comes from. It comes from that preparation 74 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: and that practice you do on the grass and in 75 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: the film study. And yeah, I'm just I'm so much 76 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: more confident this year and and happy with how it's went. 77 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 4: Unfortunately for you, you're coming into a situation where you 78 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: get to be behind one of the best to ever 79 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 4: do it, in a zach Ertz man. What we've even 80 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: been able to learn from him, because I know, it's 81 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: not just vocal learning, it's watching, it's seeing the preparation 82 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: one of those things you took from zach Ertz. 83 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the biggest thing is just the consistency 84 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: of how he operates off the field with I mean, 85 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: you can walk in on a Monday, He's going to 86 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: be in the exact same spot every single Monday, doing 87 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: the exact same thing. So that consistency off the field 88 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: and being able to build that routine has helped me 89 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: so much. And that's not even asking him questions, you know, 90 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: that's just seeing how he operates and being able to 91 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: learn from a guy like that and future Hall of 92 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Famer and a guy who has done it just about 93 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: anything you want to do in this league. 94 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: From a tight end standpoint. 95 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: So I just kind of sit back and watch and 96 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: you see how he operates, and I'm able to build 97 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: my own routine. You know, we're different players or different people, 98 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: so I take that but also put my own spin 99 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: on it. And Yeah, it's been such a joy to 100 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: be able to watch him and see him do his thing. Man, 101 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: it's so impressive. 102 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 4: And you could tell how much zach Ertz meant to 103 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: this locker room when he did go down with the injury, 104 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 4: having a great year, continuing to break records, jump Shannon 105 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 4: Sharp for in the tight end rankings. 106 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 5: Man, it was just crazy to see. 107 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 4: And then you just see that emotion across the board 108 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 4: when he goes down. 109 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 5: Man, how did that affect you? 110 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: Somebody that has been watched him, That's probably like watching 111 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 4: Superman game with Kryptonite, I'm sure. 112 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: I know, especially with what he was doing at his age. 113 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: You know, the way he handles his recovery and the 114 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: way that he handles his business from getting his body 115 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: right every Sunday, it's just a freak thing and it 116 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: rattles you, like mentally and physically, and you just kind 117 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: of got to take a moment, like catch your breath 118 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: and The first thing I did was just get on 119 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: a knee and pray for him, like asking God to 120 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: give him strength and just know, I can't imagine what 121 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: he's going through because he's a guy who puts in 122 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: so much work, so much time and effort into this 123 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: and has given his life to it. Really so it's 124 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: devastating to see that and a guy that you love 125 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 1: and care about. It was hard for this whole team, 126 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: and especially at the tight end room just how close. 127 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 4: We are, and you're getting to see how hard it 128 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 4: is to have that longevity in real time. Right you 129 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: only a year two Zach's been doing it. 130 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 5: For a decade. Lock of it that he's been doing 131 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 5: it for so long. 132 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: And when you look at these first two years right here, 133 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: right you get drafted in the second round, there is 134 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 4: so much expectation from fans, from media, from probably even 135 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: family members that say, okay, you're a second rounder. 136 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 5: But I know nobody has higher expectations for themselves then you. 137 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 4: How do you deal with the times when you don't 138 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: necessarily meet that expectation or things. The dream doesn't go 139 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: exactly how he wanted. This is a dream to be 140 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: in the NFL. But I know that a lot of 141 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 4: times when you're dreaming, things are sometimes maybe a lot 142 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 4: more green than they actually. 143 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 5: Will be in real time, because it's a grind, it's 144 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 5: a journey. 145 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, coming in second round pick, you feel 146 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: this expectation and you feel this weight on you, and 147 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: you know I felt it especially early last year, and 148 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: as time has gone on, you're able to just kind 149 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: of let go of that, especially with guys like Zach 150 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: and John Bates, two of the best at at what 151 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: they do in this league. And so I know I 152 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: understand it, but a lot of people outside the building 153 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: don't get that. So the way that I take I 154 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: just let it go and continue to put myself in 155 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: a position to be successful, work on myself. I can't 156 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: be John, i can't be Zach, and I'm just me, 157 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: so being able to figure out how I can get 158 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: better and let go of the expectation. And the people 159 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: in the building don't expect anything, you know, they they 160 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: see and they understand the situation and just owning who 161 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: I am and the way that I can get better, 162 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: and it's helped me play free and it's given me 163 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: so much confidence this year when I've gotten those opportunities 164 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: so I know God has a plan for me, and 165 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: I know that if I trust in that's it's gonna 166 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: all happen at the right time. So that's just the 167 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: mindset that I've taken and the whole thing. 168 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: Amen, And I'm glad you mentioned Artz and Baits because 169 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people don't realize that, like 170 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: you not just sitting by and then you've got people 171 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: that are out there that do it at the highest 172 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: level and you get to sit and learn. But there 173 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: takes a patience to that. Because your entire life you've 174 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: been a man. You ain't had to sit for nothing. 175 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: You have had to wait for nothing, you haven't had 176 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: to be patient. How has it been being patient and 177 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: waiting for your moments when your number is called to 178 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 4: get out on that field. 179 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it tests your patience, especially knowing what you can 180 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: do and the confidence that you have in yourself. There's 181 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: really tough days where you're making plays and you're doing 182 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: these things, but still like you got these guys in 183 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: front of you who have to play and who deserve 184 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: to play and are doing the same thing. So it's 185 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: definitely hard to test your patience. But like I said, 186 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: I am able to just trust in the plan God 187 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: has for me, which is such a blessing. And I 188 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: definitely just rely on my faith to get through that 189 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: and trust in the process that I've set before myself 190 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: to get better, you know. So it's tough sometimes, but 191 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: I just am continue to trust in that and improving 192 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,239 Speaker 1: every day and just waiting and taking advantage of those opportunities. 193 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 5: And it's not just stuff that happens in this building. 194 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 5: Because you are human. 195 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: You have life, right, You're a husband now because a 196 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: bunch of different things. How would you say you've managed 197 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: to make the most of your down time when Ben 198 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: Sinnett is not the football. 199 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 5: Play, you know, the bruise out there. 200 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 4: How are you spending your downtime to keep level and 201 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: just you know, keep yourself right. 202 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's important to step away from the 203 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: game every once in a while. And I love to 204 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: spend time with my wife. We watch TV shows all 205 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: the time. I'll play video games, call my friends, call 206 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: my parents and family and just really escape and that 207 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: just continues to reset me and allow me to get 208 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: back to football when it's time to go. And I 209 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: think it's such a good thing to have that balance mentally, physically, spiritually, 210 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: and just let things go and take a second to 211 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: step back and reset a little bit. 212 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 5: And you learn these things. You've learned how to be patient. 213 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: You've been waiting for your moment, and sadly, with injuries 214 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: comes a chance for you to get on that field 215 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: a little more come forward, chance for you to get 216 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 4: some more moments. How ready are you right now for 217 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 4: these moments? 218 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: Man? 219 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 4: We saw you have a big play and I'm telling 220 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 4: you me eat Tanna. You means from watching get word 221 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: like there go. There's that athleticism we know is there. 222 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: How great has it been to be able to just 223 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 4: be ready for this moment? And because your number is 224 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 4: gonna be called a lot more. 225 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent, it's been such a blessing. And 226 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: that's just the thing. It's like, you never know with 227 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: this game and how physical it is, your one play 228 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: away at all times. So it doesn't change the way 229 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: that I prepare, the way that I go about my business. 230 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: But I'm obviously going to have more opportunities and looking 231 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: forward to just making the most of them. 232 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: And it's just. 233 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: Cool to see the support of my coaches and my 234 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: teammates when that happens, and Obviously you don't want it 235 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: to happen the way it did, but it is a 236 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: moment that I'm looking forward to these next few weeks 237 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: and going to make the most of it. 238 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: It's crazy to think we're ending the season with all 239 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 4: nfcast games. We know how important it is, we know 240 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 4: how important this Philly game is for your boy, zach Ertz. 241 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: I know he comes into those Philly games ready to 242 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 4: make an impact, But I got a feeling Ben Sennence 243 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: coming into this Philly game ready to make an impact 244 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: only for yourself, but for your brother that's watching on 245 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: the sideline. 246 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 5: Is that true? 247 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. 248 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: We all know the passion and emotion he feels with 249 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: that organization spending time there, so we got to do 250 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: him a solid and have the Titans turn up against them. 251 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm excited for that opportunity. Obviously a lot 252 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: of a fuel and passion. With the NFC East and 253 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: such a big rivalry, I know, it's it's weird you 254 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: get a team twice in three weeks, so you're going 255 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: to know each other, and it's cool to have that 256 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: kind of just match and able to just know the 257 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: opponent and and just get after him and see who 258 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: is the best of the end. So I'm excited for it. 259 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: Obviously means more, yes, sir, always going to mean more 260 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: of Ben. 261 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 4: We appreciate your time, man, Thank you man, Thank you 262 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: for your patience, and we're excited to see you get 263 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 4: those more opportunities. 264 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 5: And I have no doubt you're going to make the 265 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 5: most of it. 266 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: Command his Family, our next man up, then send a 267 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 4: year two guys crazy to think about you gett old now, Man, 268 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 4: I appreciate your talk, buddy, Thank you, Command his favorite. 269 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 4: We hope you have been enjoin next man up. Before 270 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 4: we go any further, we have to pay some bills now. 271 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: Events d C is a proud partner of the Washington Commanders. 272 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 4: Events DC is the premier host of meetings, entertainment, sporting, 273 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 4: and cultural events in the nation's capitol. 274 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 5: From the Walter E. 275 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: Washington Convention Center to care First Arena, we create experiences 276 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 4: that entertain employ serve as an economic engine, and elevate 277 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 4: guests from around the world. See how we make DC 278 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 4: happen at events DC dot com. Hey, Marylanders play multi 279 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: match from the Maryland Lottery, Maryland's only in state jackpot game. 280 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 4: A two dollar ticket gives you a chance to win 281 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 4: a jackpot starting at five hundred thousand dollars. Drawings Mondays 282 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: and Thursdays. And remember please play responsibly. They say your 283 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 4: work defines who you are. Monday through Friday nine to five, 284 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: you are clocking in. What happens on the weekend, what 285 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 4: happens to your time? You could take it easy, or 286 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 4: you could use your time to get better. In the 287 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 4: US Army we think differently. Your time should be used 288 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 4: to improve the skills you do have to learn some 289 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 4: you don't to push yourself a new ways, because it's 290 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: those days that truly define who you are. 291 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 5: That's how you make progress. That's how you make impact 292 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 5: on the world around you. It's your time. How you 293 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 5: spend it is up to you. It's your time. 294 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 4: The US Army Reserve command his family back to the 295 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: show for. 296 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 5: Our next man up. 297 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 4: We have a legend that currently sits sixth all time 298 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 4: in sacks for Washington. 299 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 5: He's a bad man. 300 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: Looks like he could still play another three four seasons 301 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 4: right now. Welcome in there, Ken Harvey to nextvet up. 302 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 5: How you doing, bro, I'm doing well. 303 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. 304 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 6: I appreciate the compliment. You know, every time you look 305 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 6: at you, you look at yourself and you look you 306 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 6: get older. I mean look like I can play, but 307 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 6: you know in your mind you can barely step out. 308 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: On the field. I'm good to go. 309 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 5: Hey, sir man, we appreciate you. 310 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 2: Man. 311 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: I'm really excited to talk to you because getting these 312 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: legends on, getting them to tell their stories is always 313 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 4: so important for me, especially somebody like you who has 314 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 4: made the DMV your home. You grew up in Austin, Texas, 315 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 4: probably grew up a Cowboys fan. I't want to speak 316 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: for you. Probably group around a lot of cowboys fans, 317 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: and you end up making this place home. I want 318 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 4: to start there because I think it's so fly that 319 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: so many of you legends that aren't from here. I'm 320 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: not from here either, but we've made this place home. 321 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: Why was it important for you to put your roots 322 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 4: here and make the DMV home. 323 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: Well, one, it was, you know, it's a great place. 324 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 6: The big time truth of it was that my wife 325 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 6: doesn't like changing seasons, or she likes the change the seasons, 326 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 6: and so you know, if my wife is happy, I'm happy. 327 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 6: And it's also cool just being around here. Coming from 328 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 6: Arizona when I played, you had a you know, a 329 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 6: core group of fans, but we were kind of new 330 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 6: to the area and all that stuff, so it wasn't 331 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 6: as gung ho is here here was like family. Everybody 332 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 6: knew you, you went places, people showed you respect, the 333 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 6: whole thing, and so it's just kind of cool being 334 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 6: here and hanging around and just making this home. Our 335 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 6: boys grew up here, and it was you know, I 336 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 6: didn't want to change that at all. 337 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 338 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: Man, that's beautiful, and who knows what a decision will 339 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: change in life, right, Like, you make this decision back 340 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety four to leave which was the Phoenix 341 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: Cardinals at the time, which is kind of wild to 342 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: think about, and you decide to pull up to Washington. Now, 343 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 4: I know the bag was crazy, but what else went 344 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: into that decision to decide to take yourself to the 345 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: East Coast where I read you had never been to 346 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 4: the East Coast other than playing, but you had never 347 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: lived in the East Coast and really spent a. 348 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 5: Lot of time out here before coming to Washington. Is 349 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 5: that true? 350 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 351 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 6: So the truth of the story is I was I 352 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 6: was with the with the Cardinals, but it was opportunity 353 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 6: free agency got a chance to, you know, talk to 354 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 6: other teams, talk to the Redskins and the Rescluins at 355 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 6: the time, the Redskins, and they were like, you know, 356 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 6: we love you, we think you have the great potential. 357 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 6: Here's the deal on the table. Sign it now or leave. 358 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: You know. 359 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 6: Then I'm talking to my agent and I'm like, hey, man, 360 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 6: you know I want to go back to Arizona because 361 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 6: you know, you want to be back where you're comfortable. 362 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 6: Here's what they offered. Let's get see if Arizona's gonna 363 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 6: match it. Arizona's like, well, we don't believe it, and uh, 364 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 6: you know, we're not. 365 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: We're not gonna just go off of that. 366 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 6: And I'm like, all right, I'm not gonna be the 367 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 6: one that's gonna be caught up in the middle where 368 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 6: you know, Redskins pull it off the table. Arizona says, well, 369 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 6: I never saw anything, and then you're stuck in the middle, 370 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: and now you're trying to play this way. So we're like, 371 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 6: you know what if you start putting things on top 372 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 6: of each other and say, what's going to be the 373 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 6: best opportunity that I would have to to do? Well, 374 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 6: I thought, was you know here with Washington because I'm like, 375 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 6: this is a great location. 376 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: Everyone knows them. 377 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 6: They're just coming off some Super Bowl, Super Bowl victories, 378 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 6: and hopefully I could help them rebuild again to that 379 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 6: same level. Unfortunately that didn't happen, but that was kind 380 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 6: of mindset, was like this is a great place and 381 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 6: then coming here, you know, it's just it was amazing 382 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 6: because I had never experienced that type of fandom where 383 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 6: you could just walk down the street and everybody was. 384 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: Your fan and showed you respect. 385 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 6: And you know, for me, I don't know if I'm 386 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 6: just you know, I don't call myself anything super spectacular, 387 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 6: but to see a grown man, you know, somebody that's 388 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 6: you know, in their fifties when I was young, and 389 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 6: that treating you with so much respect, It's like, man, 390 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 6: I don't deserve this, but I appreciate it because I 391 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 6: saw and my dad how much sports can change how 392 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 6: people feel about themselves. 393 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: Especially being in Texas. You know, all of a sudden, 394 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: you play sports. 395 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 6: You can be you're treated with more respect, You're treated 396 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 6: with this and that, and those people who are watching 397 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 6: you like, this is our opportunity, especially as af Americans, 398 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 6: this is our opportunity to show that we are something, 399 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 6: that we can make something of ourselves, and so it 400 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 6: was it was just kind of an honor to be here. 401 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 6: And then you know, you're looking at d C all 402 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 6: the stuff you saw on TV. 403 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm a big TV guy. This was like a dream 404 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: come true. 405 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 6: You get to see the Capitol, and you get to 406 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 6: see the White House, you get to see all that stuff. 407 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: It was. It was cool. 408 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 4: And you mentioned the word respect, And when I look 409 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 4: at you getting the second biggest contract in franchise history 410 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 4: at the time from Washington, I don't know if there's 411 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: any more sign of respect. And how bad Washington truly 412 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: wanted you. What did that mean to you? I understand 413 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 4: everybody want to get that bad everybody want to get 414 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 4: that money. It's always a beautiful thing, but it's a 415 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 4: sign of your value and how much they valued you 416 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 4: and how much they wanted you here. 417 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 5: That had to them in a lot. 418 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 2: Well it meant a lot. 419 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 6: But my mindset was like, you know, if you gave 420 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 6: me this contract, my job is to show you that 421 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 6: either you under sold you know you didn't you know 422 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 6: you could have offered me more, or that you got 423 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 6: your money's worth. 424 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: That was kind of my mindset. I wanted them to know. 425 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 6: That it wasn't just a fluke type of thing, that 426 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 6: they at least put a good investment in me, and 427 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 6: that I could show them, you know, that it was 428 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 6: worthwhile and so hopefully I produced that here. 429 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: You know, I had a pretty good career here. 430 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: Man average nearly eight sacks a season while you were here. 431 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 5: That is not a small thing. 432 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 4: Like I said at the start, your sixth all time 433 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 4: as far as sack leaders go. For Washington, what about 434 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 4: this place worked for you? What about this place brought 435 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: out the best scene? 436 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 6: So it's a couple of things, and I start off, 437 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 6: I'll go back to Arizona. So in Arizona, I had 438 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: tore my acl and I also tore the rotator cuff 439 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 6: in my shoulders. 440 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: So both of those. 441 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 6: Injuries at the time, you know, were considered almost career 442 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 6: and injuries. 443 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: But then I was fortunate enough to come here. 444 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 6: So like you said, you know the show that Washington 445 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 6: wanted me, it meant something special. But then I think 446 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 6: a lot of times people look at the individual and 447 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 6: think it's just you, And it wasn't just me when 448 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 6: I got here, d Boy, who was the strength coach 449 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 6: really helped, I mean probably saved my career in the 450 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 6: strength training that we did. Then I had these great 451 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 6: players that played around me. Monic Coleman, who was like 452 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 6: a mentor. I had Tim Johnson who was always, you know, 453 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 6: give them the spiritual uplift and saying, come on, brother, 454 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 6: you can do this. And and then you had other players. 455 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 6: You have Jim Leche who was beat me up in 456 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 6: practic but then telling me what I did wrong. So 457 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 6: when I went out in the field to go against somebody, 458 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 6: I had already been against the best every day in practice, 459 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 6: and so it was just, you know, it was a 460 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 6: cool feeling to be at least a part of it, 461 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 6: and I wanted to hold up my end of it, 462 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 6: but it was a cool feeling to know that it 463 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 6: wasn't just you. This is what This is why they 464 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 6: won the Super Bowls because they were a team and 465 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 6: they were a family. And unfortunately, you know, you know 466 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 6: a lot of those guys got kind of pushed away 467 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 6: and went to other teams. But you could tell why 468 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 6: they were so good. They were a family and they 469 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 6: were a team. 470 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 4: And you're finding all the success on the field, you're 471 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: finding ways to get it done, You're making the Pro Bowls. 472 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 4: Truly one of the best linebackers we have ever had. 473 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 4: But I'm sure it was tough because I know your 474 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 4: goal was to get back to the Bulls to bring 475 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 4: back that championship glory. 476 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 5: How tough was it? And is it still tough when 477 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 5: you think about it, that. 478 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: You weren't really able to accomplish that part of the game, 479 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 4: which is not always under your control. Right, it's a 480 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: team game. But I know somebody that could piech as 481 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 4: hard as you. I'm sure that sticks with you a 482 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: little bit. 483 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, it hurts even you talking about it now, you 484 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 6: know that was That's one of the things when when 485 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 6: you go and you talk to kids, you're like, what 486 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 6: do you miss so much about the game? It's like 487 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 6: I played eleven years and never made it to the playoffs, 488 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 6: never experienced what it was like as a team to 489 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 6: do something great. Individually, you can get your awards and rewards, 490 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 6: but as a team, and that's what the game is, 491 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 6: as a team game. You wanted to feel like we 492 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 6: all did it, we all made together because, like I said, 493 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 6: there were so many good players who played around me 494 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 6: who probably never got the recognition and helped me get 495 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 6: to where I was at individually. Man, I wanted to 496 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 6: see it together, like what could we have done as 497 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 6: a team? And how can we get that feeling of 498 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 6: knowing that you represent the Washington, DC metro area and 499 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 6: and you did it together. That to me would be 500 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 6: the greatest thing ever. And you know, sometimes I still 501 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 6: search for it. You know, you still want that feeling 502 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 6: of being that part of that team that achieve something 503 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 6: great like that. 504 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 5: How do you scratch that itch? 505 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: Right? 506 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: Like you said, even to this day, you're still looking 507 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 4: for that, looking for that feeling, that camaraderie. How do 508 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 4: you do that at this point in your life? 509 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 6: You know, right now I'm kind of like the old 510 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 6: man who's learned a lot of lessons in life. And 511 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 6: so I understand now it's more use the gifts and 512 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 6: the things that God has given you, and you don't 513 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 6: have to search for everything. 514 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes it'll be right in front of your face. 515 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 6: But it's all about you using the gifts that God 516 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 6: has given you. And so you know, right now, I'm 517 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 6: trying to create my own sports game, you know, not 518 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 6: a video game, but just that live game that people 519 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 6: would play. You know, I don't know if I would 520 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 6: ever get that feeling of going to the super Bowl 521 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 6: or whatever. But I know, creating something and having people 522 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 6: enjoy it would be kind of cool. And so that's 523 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 6: that's one of the things I'm doing now and hopefully 524 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 6: that'll scratch the itch a little bit. But if not, 525 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 6: you know, it's all about you know, what do you 526 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 6: consider a team. I mean, I if my wife still 527 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 6: loves me and my boys still respect me, I think 528 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 6: that's a great team. 529 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: And whether or not achieved anything. 530 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 6: On the football field, hopefully I've achieved something in some 531 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 6: area of my life that I could look back and say, 532 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 6: you know what, I did it. 533 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: We did it. It's a good thing. 534 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: And when I hear you say that you yearned for 535 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: that team atmosphere again, it makes me go back to 536 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: something you said a few minutes ago about the people 537 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: you leaned on as leaders, the people you leaned on 538 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: to help you figure out this game, the people that 539 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: helped you not only on the field but off the 540 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 4: field as well. Who were some of those people that 541 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: really helped the young Ken Harvey along the way. 542 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, like I said, you know, there were some guys 543 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 6: just in the terms of friendship. There was Terry Crews, 544 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 6: who played on the team. You know, it's a good 545 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 6: dude and and quite frankly, probably could have played. You know, 546 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 6: in my spot. I got hurt one time. He went 547 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 6: in and made three tackles in a row. I got healthy. 548 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 6: A lot quicker Marcus Patten who who was inside linebacker, 549 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 6: and just you know, you know, if I thought I 550 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 6: was strong, he was massively strong and just really pushed 551 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 6: gust farradd as a quarterback. But he's a friend of 552 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 6: mine and my wife, you know. And then just leaning 553 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 6: on the people early on. You know, there was the 554 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 6: Art Monk and you know, spiritually and just you know, 555 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 6: just talking to him. There was Charles Man, Daryl Green, 556 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 6: you know, all these people who've been there, understood what 557 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 6: it took to win. They were pouring into my life 558 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 6: and that was you know, that was that was pretty amazing. 559 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 6: And then you know, a shout out to like wives, 560 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 6: because my wife had to deal with a lot of 561 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 6: stuff that you know, people don't see she you know, 562 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 6: she everybody sees you as a football player, the hero. 563 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: You're doing your stuff. 564 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 6: No one sees you as this grouchy person who's coming 565 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 6: home mad or angry, who's who's just lying around moping 566 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 6: and whining about his injuries and all that stuff. 567 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: People don't see that she has to deal with a 568 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: lot of that stuff, or. 569 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 6: People interrupting, you know, your dinner because they want an autograph. 570 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 6: But you know, she stood up and dealt with all 571 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 6: that and so it was cool. It was you know, 572 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 6: it's it's all worked together. 573 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 4: And can When you mentioned your wife, it makes me 574 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: think of an interview I did with Alfred Morris maybe 575 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 4: about a month ago, and he talked about the hardships 576 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 4: of being a retired NFL player, being this great playing 577 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 4: this sport that you have played since you can even 578 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 4: start your memories, and he leaned on his wife a 579 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: lot to get through that. Did you have a hard 580 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 4: time with retirement, because even hearing you talk right now, 581 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 4: like you said, you still have, you know, those feelings 582 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 4: of wanting to be a part of a team or 583 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 4: not doing everything you set out to do, maybe in 584 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 4: your mind for Washington Man, was it hard to pivot 585 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: to the next stage of life after retirement and figure 586 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: out who Ken Harvey was outside of the football field. 587 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's taken me a long time. I mean, I 588 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 6: you know, sometimes it's the investment you put in it. 589 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 6: I was kind of walking that thin line of not 590 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 6: fully out of football and not. 591 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: Fully into something else. 592 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 6: And so it was it was hard because I really 593 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 6: didn't know what I wanted to do, but I know 594 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 6: I had. I knew in my mind it was like 595 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 6: I was destined for something great. I'm supposed to be 596 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 6: doing something bigger than that. But you're around this area 597 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 6: a lot of times. You get you can you can 598 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 6: live off of your environment or what people think and 599 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 6: what they say about you, and you think, you know, 600 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 6: I'm supposed to bel a government contract and do all 601 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 6: the you know, the stuff that's in the government area, 602 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 6: or a good salesperson and all that stuff, or people 603 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 6: can't understand what you are as a for me as 604 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 6: a creative person, and so or maybe I don't fully 605 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 6: embrace the creativity, and so you're kind of lost and 606 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 6: you're stuck in limbo. So I always kind of look at, Uh, 607 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 6: there's a story in the Bible Exodus talks about Moses, 608 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 6: and I'm like, you know, I've been wandering around the 609 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 6: desert for forty years and waiting to see that burning bush. 610 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 6: And then ultimately when you see the burning bush and 611 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 6: you're standing there and you know there's a part of 612 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 6: the Exodus for too where God says, what's in your hand? 613 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 6: He's talking to Moses, and Moses says the staff. And 614 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 6: when I read that, I was like, you know what, 615 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 6: something as simple as the staff where for Moses is 616 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 6: tending sheep is leaning on it to sleep. God's like, 617 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 6: if you trust me not, that staff will not only uh, 618 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 6: you know, lead the sheep, It's going to lead the people. 619 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 6: It's going to lead millions of people. You trust me, 620 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 6: that staff is going to part the red seas. And 621 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 6: I see that as you know, trusting God with your gifts. 622 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 6: And if you trust God with those gifts, then you 623 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 6: can do some amazing things, but you have to fully 624 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 6: believe in it and fully trusted it. So that's the 625 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 6: the journey I've been on is just you know, through 626 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 6: my own probably hardheadedness, is learning to say, embrace the 627 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 6: gifts that you have, whatever that is, and try to 628 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 6: be the best you can at it. 629 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: So that's where I'm at now. 630 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 4: I love that you use that analogy. And if you 631 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 4: don't mind me asking what was your burning bush more? 632 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 4: What was that moment where you had to be reminded 633 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: of the staff? In your hand. Did you have a 634 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 4: moment like that? 635 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: So it was it was years ago. I was, I was, 636 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: I was, I was down. 637 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's it's sometimes it's hard being 638 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 6: the man. But then you're not achieving what you think 639 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 6: you're supposed to achieve. So even though in front of everybody, 640 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 6: you look like you're all that, but deep down. 641 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 2: Inside you feel like almost like an imposter, like why 642 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: am I here? What am I doing? 643 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 6: And I'm sitting there and I'm praying, and I'm like, God, 644 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 6: what am I supposed to be doing? And I finally 645 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 6: I did a children's book. My first children's book was 646 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 6: was My Boys and Terry Crews did the all Work. 647 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 6: And so I had looked at it again and I'm like, 648 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 6: you know what, it's just sitting there. This is a 649 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 6: good book for people. I know the reason why I 650 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 6: did it. And I'm praying to guy and I call 651 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 6: up Terry and he's now a movie start and he's 652 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 6: doing well, and I'm like, Terry, you know, I want 653 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 6: to do this book again, just to get it out. 654 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 6: There are a lot of kids who probably need to 655 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 6: see themselves this care aracters and do it and it 656 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 6: just all just started kind of piecing together and he's 657 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 6: ter was like, I'll pay for everything. 658 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: Let's get this thing done. 659 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 6: Another friend of mine called up out of nowhere and 660 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 6: he's like, you know, I got this augmented reality company 661 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 6: and we're going to you know, if you want to 662 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 6: do something. I was like, well, let's put the augmented 663 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 6: reality with the children's book, and you know, things happen, 664 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 6: and I was like, wow, man, you know that's the 665 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 6: gift that I have. Then I start using and then 666 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 6: I have to get out my own way because then 667 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 6: I was like, man, I don't want to be known 668 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 6: just as a children's books writer. And so, you know, 669 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 6: fast forward to now, it's kind of like, be good 670 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 6: at what you're good at. Don't don't worry about the title. 671 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 6: Just understand that's the gift. So I think it's you know, 672 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 6: sometimes we think it's a lightning bolt and a moment 673 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 6: that's going to change everything. A lot of times it's 674 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 6: a journey and some of those lessons along the way 675 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 6: of the very things that you use to make you, 676 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 6: you know, what you're supposed to be in the future. 677 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 5: Ken. 678 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 4: I appreciate you sharing that story because I think a 679 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 4: lot of people forget, like especially somebody like you, Like 680 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 4: I just with an at a charity event with you, 681 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: and you are just this massive presence, right, massive smile. 682 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 4: You're this big old dude, And I think people when 683 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 4: they see that, especially on the field, and so much 684 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: that you accomplished on the field, they forget about the human, 685 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: about the things that the human has to go through. 686 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 4: But I also like being in this position to remind you, man, 687 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 4: what you played seventy four games in the Burgunie and Gold. 688 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 4: You ended with forty one and a half sacks. Again, 689 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 4: that's sixth all time. So even though a lot of 690 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: times the brain and our human side will let us know, hey, 691 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 4: maybe we didn't do enough, maybe left someone on the table, Ken, 692 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 4: I'm here to tell you didn't leave nothing on the table. 693 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 5: Brother. 694 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 4: You can't control team success all the time, but what 695 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 4: you did on that field while you were hearing the 696 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 4: Bergnie and Gold, you left it all on the field. 697 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 4: And I truly feel like that's why you're so appreciated 698 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 4: and so loved, and I just hope you feel that. 699 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 6: I hope you You know, one of the things that 700 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 6: I think for a lot of people, sometimes you got 701 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 6: to learn to appreciate and accept the gifts and the 702 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 6: blessings that you have. And sometimes we could be our 703 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 6: own worst enemy that we get in our way. Instead 704 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 6: of looking back and saying, you know what, I did 705 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 6: do that, and I do that now, I look back 706 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 6: and say, man, I'm on the ring of fame, and 707 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 6: not in a cocky way, not in that I'm better 708 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 6: than anybody, but I'm like, man, I did that, and 709 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 6: I did have a good career here, and I did 710 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 6: play well here, and I gave it all I had here, 711 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 6: and so don't not get and say, oh, I should 712 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 6: have and I would have, and I could have just 713 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 6: embrace it and say, man, this was a great time. 714 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. 715 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 6: And you know, maybe there's some things to learn, but 716 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 6: this was this was special. And how many people, in 717 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 6: the wildest dreams ever get a chance to do what 718 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 6: I did. 719 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: And that's that's what I embraced now. 720 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 5: And you did it, and you accomplished it, and you 721 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 5: earned it as well. 722 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: Ken. 723 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 4: We appreciate you so much for being so honest and open. 724 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: And one last question for you, brother, when it's all 725 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: sat and done, when fans are in the barbershop and 726 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 4: they're talking about Ken Harvey hundred years from now, thirty 727 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 4: years and at fifty whatever it is, How do you 728 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 4: want Ken Harvey's time in Washington to be remembered? 729 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 5: How do you want to be remembered? You know? 730 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 6: What the cool thing would be if somebody was talking, 731 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 6: somebody was in the barbershop and they were talking about 732 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 6: some of the old greats, and then some kid comes 733 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 6: in was grown man now and he's like, yeah, I 734 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 6: barely remember. I kind of remember him with football, but man, 735 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 6: I remember him coming to my class and reading to 736 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 6: some books, to my reading books to me when I 737 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 6: was a little kid. 738 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: And man, that that changed my life. 739 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 6: I saw, I saw this big like you said, this 740 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 6: big guy, huge guy and big old eyes, look scary, 741 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 6: you know. 742 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: And and when I heard him read and. 743 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 6: I saw him having fun with us, that made me 744 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 6: think anything is possible, and don't be afraid of who 745 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 6: you are and what you can do. 746 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: And so that to me would be the greatest thing. Uh. That, 747 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: And and the. 748 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 6: Fact that hopefully if someone meets my kids and they say, man, 749 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 6: you know you guys. 750 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: Are great people. 751 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 6: I know that hopefully them being great people has a 752 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 6: lot to do with me and my wife and that 753 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 6: be the coolest thing, because you know, if anybody think 754 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 6: anything good of me, it's because my parents, my mom 755 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 6: and my dad, who am just sacrificed so much and 756 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 6: hopefully made me into a good person that you see. 757 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 6: You know, hopefully I'm passing that seed on down to 758 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 6: my kids and my. 759 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 5: Family, and Ken, you definitely are. Man. 760 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 4: We were passing out turkeys and I had my little 761 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: man with me, and you took the time to you 762 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: ain't know who he was. You took the time to 763 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 4: show him love, gas him up a little bit, make 764 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: sure he was handing out turkey. And but you were 765 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 4: doing that with everybody, right. Was it just because you 766 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 4: know me or I worked for the command. 767 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 5: It wasn't that. 768 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 4: It was that is the energy and presence you have, 769 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 4: and we just appreciate that so much. I'm sure so 770 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 4: many people remember you from the community service, the things 771 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: you do, like you said, showing up to schools because 772 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 4: a lot of us weren't even alive when you were 773 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 4: in your heyday doing all those things. 774 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 5: Man. 775 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: So it's just can I say it's one thing I 776 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: don't I know you run out of time? 777 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 5: No, Ken, you good? We got all the time in 778 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 5: the world. 779 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 6: I went to the Pro Bowl, my first pro bo 780 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 6: and I brought my dad and there was a player 781 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 6: and I forgot the player, but it's a player in 782 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 6: the Pro Bowl. 783 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: And my dad was like a huge fan and I 784 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: went up to him. I was like, hey, man, my. 785 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 6: Dad's a fan of yours. Would you mind just saying 786 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 6: hello to him? And he went up to my dad 787 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 6: and he's like, hey, mister Harvey, how you doing, blah 788 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 6: blah blah. And I saw my dad become this little kid, 789 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 6: and it's like, oh man, he talked to me. 790 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: He knew my name, you told him everything. And I 791 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: was like, no, Dad, I don't know. 792 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 5: I don't know. 793 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: I knew your name. And my dad was like this 794 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: little kid. 795 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 6: And I saw that and I was like, wow, that's 796 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 6: the fact that players can have on someone's life. For you, 797 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 6: it's just a moment, but for them it could be 798 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 6: you know, this thing. And I was like, you know what, 799 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 6: I want to treat everybody hopefully that way, you know 800 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 6: that they can have a good time. 801 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 5: Now. 802 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 6: I'm awkward at times, you know, sometimes I don't know 803 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 6: what to say to people because you know, it's whatever. 804 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 6: But I try to hopefully make sure people have a 805 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 6: good time because you know, I don't take it for granted. 806 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 6: You know, we get a chance to do things. I 807 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 6: get a chance to do things that a lot of 808 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 6: people don't do. I sometimes take for granted that I 809 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 6: could go to a foot ball game. You know, there 810 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 6: are millions of kids, a lot of kids who can 811 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 6: never get that chance. And so now I'm just trying 812 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 6: to do what I've seen other people do to me. 813 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 4: Can we appreciate you because again, you don't owe anybody 814 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 4: that right. You could go off being floored in Miami 815 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 4: right now, chilling on the beach, but you take your 816 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 4: time to make this place home, to give back to 817 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 4: your community and just give back to everybody you me. 818 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 5: I never think I've ever seen you not smiling. 819 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 4: Ken, We appreciate you so much for taking the time 820 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 4: to jump on next mid up, next time we got 821 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 4: to get you at the studio, Man, I feel like 822 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 4: your presence would be amazing in this studio. Can and again, 823 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 4: just thank you for all that you do and that 824 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 4: you continue to do, not only for the DMV, but 825 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 4: just everybody who come in contact with Brother. We appreciate you. 826 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, man, Thank you. 827 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 5: Come maand this family, our Next Man Up. Ken Harvey, 828 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 5: appreciate you. 829 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 4: Command Is Family. We hope you enjoyed this episode of 830 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 4: Next Man Up. Remember you can stream all of the 831 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 4: Next Man Up episodes right now on the Commander's YouTube 832 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 4: page or the audio wherever you get your podcasts. Thank 833 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 4: you so much for supporting the Next Man Up podcast. 834 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 4: You allowed us to be nominated for not one but 835 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 4: People's Choice Podcast Awards Best Male Hosting and Best Black 836 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 4: Male Hosted Podcast. And that's all because of the best 837 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 4: fans in the NFL. I appreciate y'all so much for 838 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 4: supporting us. It's crazy to think we're already in season 839 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 4: three of Next Man Up and we have a lot 840 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 4: more to go. So make sure to subscribe to the 841 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 4: Commander's YouTube page so you don't miss any of our content. 842 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 5: I'm Brankovi Jr. And this is Next Man Up. 843 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 4: This show was filmed at the Big Bear AI Command 844 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 4: Center studio. Big Bear AI offers this is Ready AI 845 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 4: for a rapidly evolving world, proudly protecting the Washington Commanders 846 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 4: and its fans.